[01:21] [Jono Bacon] Community Leadership Summit 2011: Rock and Roll - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/08/16/community-leadership-summit-2011-rock-and-roll/ [05:18] anyone around that's done android rooting/flashing? [05:45] um, I have a problem, I had an update via update manageer just now, and went through the process, and it looked like there was a kernel update too, so it asked to reboot. My browser I use, is Google Chrome, which I had no problems with before the update, now, it crashes all the time, I can barely use it. Would anybody have any ideas why it would suddenly be like that.......I am running Ubuntu 10.10 [05:48] when I restart it, ti keeps asking me if I want to restor back to what I last cloed but that is an error, I didnt have a problem with closing it before, but that restore keeps coming back all the time, but I cant do anything because it keeps freezing [05:50] the version of Google Chrome I have is 13.0.782.112...... [06:22] I went back a kernel and it seemed to fix the problem and it doesnt seem to be freezing, so the update did something to Google Chrome [06:22] scoundrel50a: you might try moving or renaming the browser profile [06:22] probably in .chrome or something [06:22] ok, how would I do that? [06:23] or try chromium-browser [06:23] just rename the ~/.chrome directory (if there is one) [06:23] I teid that, adn it worked but they still havent got everything to work in Chromium [06:23] might be called googlechrome or something [06:23] where would I find it? [06:23] in your home directory [06:24] in nautilus ctrl+h to see hidden stuff [06:24] I am in the old kernel, should IO go into the kernel to do this? [06:24] err no [06:24] ok, will have a look [06:24] it is a folder in your home directory [06:26] no, its not in there [06:27] I installed it from the internet, so would it go somewhere else? [06:28] I found it in /etc/ would that still be the same [06:31] I cant find it.....anyway thanks [06:33] good morning [06:38] oh well, I am still none the wiser and I cant use google chrome, I wish when they did updates, it would break stuff [06:39] it wouldnt break stuff [07:00] hello all [07:35] morning davmor2 [07:35] hihi [07:36] Morning MooDoo [07:41] Good morning all [07:41] morning hoover [07:41] morning all [07:42] * davmor2 prods czajkowski cause she isn't up yet === Guest43980 is now known as MichealH [08:02] Hi, well I been fiddling, uninstalled Google Chrome, reinstalled it, no change, went to use Chromium, and that freezes also, so both Google Chrome and Chromium now wont work since the kernel update.....I still cannot fint out where Google Chrome is situated in the Home folder [08:03] morning all [08:04] morning [08:04] scoundrel50a: ~/.config/google-chrome/ [08:04] thats not where chrome is, thats where the config/profile is [08:05] but where it then, I still cant find it, i just found Chromium [08:05] dpkg -L google-chrome-beta [08:05] or google-chrome-stable [08:05] scoundrel50a: what are you trying to do? [08:06] https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mojang.minecraftpe [08:06] ooooo [08:06] ok, this morning I was using Chrome as I ahve done for months with no problem, then came a kernel update, and Chrome broke, tried Chromium and that wont work either, everything just freezes, whatever I do in it [08:06] if I go back a kernel, they work ok [08:07] what are the two kernel version numbers? [08:07] how do I find out without logging on and off [08:07] uname -a [08:07] k, one sec [08:07] will tell you the current one [08:08] 2.6.35-30-generic [08:09] scoundrel50a: so you're on Ubuntu 10.10 right? [08:09] yes [08:09] is this the one that works or the one that doesnt? [08:10] this omne does, the 2.6.35-29 generic works [08:10] eh? [08:10] sorry, this one doesnt [08:11] fire alarm :( [08:11] * popey evacuates the channel [08:11] the 2.6.35-29 generic works [08:11] false alarm...man that went on a bit too long [08:12] cant even get any error messages as it freezes all the time [08:12] scoundrel50a: does the entire machine freeze or just the browser? [08:12] what freezes, the app or the system? [08:12] browsers [08:12] so you can still move the windows about [08:13] scoundrel50a: what make of video card do you have? [08:13] I can close them, but that is about it [08:13] GC I have to use the force quite sometimes to close, as it just does nothing [08:14] not sure, how do I find that out? [08:15] scoundrel50a: does it crash instantly or when you're on certain sites? [08:15] does this mean anything an intel GMA 4500M [08:16] thats what you have is it? [08:17] yes, found that on the side of the laptop [08:17] next to what looks like the graphics card icon [08:18] ok, so that theory is out the window [08:18] curious [08:18] is it switchable graphics? [08:18] you are not alone [08:18] others have this issue too [08:19] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11149239 [08:19] hrm, was 10.10 the time that firefox introduced acceleration or was that 11.04? [08:19] AlanBell: what does that mean? [08:19] i had a lot of problems with that, ended up disabling it [08:20] scoundrel50a: do you have pastebinit installed? [08:20] since the upgrade to the new kernel, each time I start Google Chrome or Chromium I get at the top a message saying do I want to restore the session but it never had a broken session to start, I click on that, it works for a page or two then freezes [08:20] if so, can you cause chrome to crash and then "pastebinit /var/log/kern.log" [08:21] yep, I think so [08:21] scoundrel50a: right, start chrome and _don't_ click restore [08:21] then open your regular pages one by one [08:21] see which one crashes it [08:22] did that, and went to click on speed dial, and its frozen already, with the apage unresponsive box showing [08:22] ok [08:22] its just stuck [08:22] so do that and pastebin your /var/log/kern.log pls [08:25] how do I get the pastebin it to work in the terminal [08:26] "pastebinit /var/log/kern.log" [08:26] type that [08:26] (without the quotes) [08:27] thought that was right, it didnt give out a url, I have to add it to paste bin, one sec [08:28] http://paste.ubuntu.com/667092/ [08:29] no, that didnt work [08:29] i got annoyed with not having access to that google bar all over the web, so i added +Gord, Gmail, Calendar, Documents... and so on to my firefox bookmark toolbar thing :) almost as good [08:29] sorry :( [08:29] you'll have to manually open /var/log/kern.log using gedit and paste to paste.ubuntu.com [08:30] umok, one sec, I'll see if I can find it [08:31] Howdy peeps :) [08:31] wow, just ran software-center-gtk3 in oneiric. talk about "busy" screen! [08:38] yeah, but i quite like it [08:38] or at least, i like the idea [08:41] * popey reboots into oneiric [08:41] maybe i just get used to the current stuff and don't like change :-| [08:41] it obviously will get a bit more work [08:50] sorry, having a few problems, will post the pastebin when I can get it [08:51] Good morning [08:51] morning [08:52] http://paste.ubuntu.com/667101/ [08:53] I dont know if that is enough, it kept on freezing firefox === matt_ is now known as EditorDaub [08:56] lo [08:56] lo daubers [08:57] lo daubers, how goes it [08:57] Good :) Just editing videos [08:58] scoundrel50a: I would file a bug with "ubuntu-bug linux" [08:59] ok [08:59] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320744355779&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123 [08:59] heh, firefox has just locked up for me :D [08:59] * popey bets thats a Sony experia? [08:59] do you know the url for that ubuntu-bug linux [08:59] popey, minecraft is now available on the experia play y'know? maybe time to pick one up ;) [09:00] ooooo [09:00] nah, its not proper minecraft [09:00] only the local play one [09:00] scoundrel50a: its not a url, type that in a terminal [09:00] yeah i think its closer to lego, but its an "alpha" deal-y. maybe in the future [09:02] wheee, software updates on oneiric are much more bareable on an SSD! [09:05] gord: what do I have to do to get someone to look at the drop shadow in oneiric? [09:06] popey: pay them? [09:09] ok, did that, and filled in a bit, the terminal started to produce something but has stuck on 'Attemting to load the system libmoon, and I dont know what to do now with the bug report, [09:09] popey, ayatana-dev - its the ayatana mailing list we (programmers) actually read :) - designers read the ayatana ml but not us [09:09] ok [09:09] popey, at the very least, i'm pretty sure the guys involved know the problem but are swamped with other stuff. so if they detail the problem, one of the awesome community peeps might take a look [09:09] seriously, those guys do crazy stuff these days [09:10] popey: can you type into a unity text box using onboard yet? [09:11] hang on, the act of "go on ayatana-dev" list has me now discovering 3 other bugs [09:11] Is it possible to install older versions of FireFox along side the default v5? [09:11] need to file those first before I forget [09:12] so frustrating [09:12] can't do CTRL+ALT+T to open a terminal [09:12] middle click on icon doesn't open new window [09:13] scoundrel50a: did you get as far as getting a bug number? [09:14] yes, here it is Bug #827198 [09:14] Launchpad bug 827198 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel update google Chrome and Chromium freeze" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827198 [09:14] looks like it added loads ofthings to the bug report [09:15] should have done that for the backlight problem might have helped more [09:15] ! [09:15] great, next it needs to be confirmed, you need to try and find someone else who can reproduce it [09:15] people on the ubuntu forums :P [09:16] scoundrel50a: do you have a ubuntu forums accoint? [09:16] AlanBell: you can't even _paste_ into a unity box yet [09:17] indeed, but that doesn't answer the question :) [09:17] yes I do, I was going to ask, is there a thread in the Ubuntu forums showing this [09:17] yes, popey posted it earlier http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11149239 [09:17] AlanBell: see previous statement about bugs [09:17] * AlanBell takes popey's point [09:17] I will have a go later [09:18] Im back again [09:18] welcome back [09:18] sorry, didnt see, thank you for posting again, will go ask if somebody can confirm this bug for me [09:19] good morning, what do people use as IDEs for css & html in ubuntu? [09:19] vim! [09:19] gedit [09:19] someone was gonna say it, i wanted to be first [09:19] im using gedit at the mo but autocomplete would be useful [09:19] emacs [09:19] ;-) [09:20] I love vi and gedit! [09:20] geany [09:20] * Dudley-puppy has a fussy pc that doesnt boot.from.cd so.installing ubuntu is tricky [09:20] davmor2: is that to me? [09:21] feisar: yeap I use it for most things it's basically gedit set up for dev mode :) [09:22] davmor2: sounds good, thanks : ] In the default repos too... [09:23] feisar: Yeap [09:24] * bigcalm cracks up: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattdaubney/6041112753/ # Just got into the photo [09:26] added my bit and the bug number [09:26] thank you [09:32] good morning everyone. [09:32] good morning to.you too [09:32] morning Dudley-puppy [09:33] thanks [09:33] :) [09:33] oh :D Déjà Dup in Ubuntu 11.10 now supports Ubuntu One backups [09:34] "Deja Dup’s Ubuntu One support, it will create a new cloud folder that is not (by default) synchronized to your computers. Thus, it doesn’t waste space duplicating the same bits on all your machines." [09:35] i have set to English(UK) in 11.10, but the layout is wrong [09:36] it has @ on number 2 [09:38] popey: I'm betting one is set to English(US) still [09:38] good morning to you popey [09:38] if people would like to make the reapproval form look more awesome that would be fantastic === AlanBell changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting 29th August 21:00 UK time #ubuntu-uk-meeting | Reapproval meeting tonight!! 9PM #ubuntu-meeting [09:39] davmor2: no, it was set to some other whacky thing [09:39] davmor2: fixed with a change and logout/in [09:40] also fixed terminal on ctrl+alt+t \o/ [09:40] AlanBell: how am I supposed to use onboard? [09:41] if I press super key, unity gets focus, away from onboard [09:41] if I click on onboard the unity box goes away [09:42] and pressing the ubuntu key in onboard doesnt make the unity thing appear [09:43] popey: you found a way to show all applications yet? [09:43] oh [09:43] no [09:44] "Clear attention" in the messaging menu looks odd [09:44] AlanBell: what do we need to do? [09:45] I'd like to take a more active role in the team rather than just sitting in here and helping peeps now and then [09:45] yay ubuntu is now installing (for once) [09:45] xperia minecraft supports wifi local play? that's pretty sweet [09:48] popey: sounds like it doesn't work then [09:48] bigcalm: make the application look awesome [09:48] popey: try alt-tab :D [09:49] i get weird results [09:50] bug 739812 [09:50] Launchpad bug 739812 in unity (Ubuntu Natty) "Must use hardware keyboard to perform search for applications in Unity" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739812 [09:51] bigcalm: The oggcamp photo probably needs putting in :) [09:52] it is I think [09:52] dates and sorting stuff into years would be good [09:54] should app descriptions in the software centre have the local language applied? [10:05] popey, When you got HDD's for you HP Micro server did you look into it at all or just buy what you thought was best [10:05] ? [10:06] Just about to order myself one in next few days wondering if you recommend any hdd's or worth investigating [10:06] Going in the front room, so would like it to be as quiet as poss [10:07] you're playing straight into his ssd addiction here :p [10:12] :) [10:12] Might be out of my price range, need space more than spee [10:13] speed* [10:13] If you need space over speed, have you considered tapes? [10:13] mag tapes! on end-to-end reels! [10:14] Not for backups bigcalm [10:15] Well.. it's for my film collection, use it as a NAS [10:15] to my Revo [10:15] I have a multitude of drives in varying sizes, want to buy maybe 2 x 2TB discs [10:15] And consolidate or my data to one box [10:18] * czajkowski stabs davmor2 [10:19] * davmor2 prods czajkowski then prods some more [10:19] i discovered a cool way to store my film collection. since i rarely watch a film more than once, it remains on dvd upstairs somewhere :D [10:19] davmor2: you in london ? [10:21] oimon, I quite often watch films more than once, I wrote a plugin a long time ago to randomly pick a film from my few 100 [10:21] davmor2: czajkowski you two behave....don't make me put you on the naughty step [10:21] Also wrote one to play all the kids series that I have bought in random order, before i had sky back [10:21] i have a bit of a thing about watching/reading things i remember too well. there is nothing worse than yesterday's newspaper to me [10:21] MooDoo: eh since when you in charge mister [10:21] don't be getting any ideas [10:22] MooDoo: I'm already there so your idle threat worries me not :P [10:22] i wish i could watch endless repeats on telly like my missis seems to enjoy [10:22] i pretty much see the three of you all sitting on the naughty step arguing ;) [10:22] czajkowski: davmor2 right that's it, go to your rooms [10:22] gord: wanna join [10:22] my wireless card is not recognised by ubuntu [10:23] gord: goto #naughtystep I'm right there [10:23] davmor2: was up at 5 with laddo wanting to play [10:24] oooo loco renewal this evening [10:24] yes (help) [10:26] help my wireless is not.working [10:26] it does not detect any networks [10:27] Dudley-puppy: what wireless card is it as it might need additional drivers [10:28] its a bt voyger 1040 wireless card [10:29] Dudley-puppy: from google - http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=76875 [10:34] yeah its supported [10:34] canot believe there is nobody in mill bank to give emily on the ML a working Ubuntu machine :/ [10:35] but I can't install.as I dont have internet on the pc [10:37] lspci says I have a wireless care [10:37] card [10:37] but i.realy have know idea what Im doing [10:41] any ideas [10:41] czajkowski: sure you can [10:47] say hello to Jay15, a friend of mine :-) [10:48] Jay15: aloha [10:48] Ug ug [10:49] ug ug?? [10:49] hello every one! :D [10:49] hi Jay15 [10:50] hey cz (lol) how ya doing? [10:50] * bigcalm sneaks off to find lunch [10:51] * Dudley-puppy follows bigcalm [10:53] czajkowski, i hear you are a very nice person, and a good friend of gary?! [10:53] * Gary wonders if czajkowski is going to hurt him for that [10:54] no czajkowski should hurt you for telling me to do that! i am new to this and you are already making me have enemies! :D :S [10:54] Gary: you giving Jay15 incorrect information about czajkowski ?? [10:54] oi [10:54] I'm starving, what can I nom on when I cannot open my mouth too far? [10:54] Gary: soup [10:54] MooDoo: yessir [10:54] hello MooDoo [10:54] hi Jay15 [10:55] I did a silly on Sunday, kinda faceplanted the pavement! [10:55] yes Gary is miss leading me already! not good :'( [10:55] yeah and now you look really funny Gary :D [10:56] sorry czajkowski for the cz, its gary miss leading me. :S thnks Gary :D [10:57] Jay15: don't worry czajkowski is lovely really lol ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha :) [10:58] how do I add support for.mp3 s without internet [10:58] how do you use irc without internet [10:58] Dudley-puppy: you can't really [10:58] Dudley-puppy: can't you teather your computer with your phone? [10:58] ok but didn't make a good first imprseeion really [10:58] the lost art of the sneakernet :/ [10:59] MooDoo I dont think I can with ubuntu [11:00] Dudley-puppy: what phone you got? it's not a android phone is it? [11:01] yes its android [11:01] and does it have wireless? [11:01] sorry 3g not wireless [11:01] lol [11:01] yeah it does [11:02] then have you tried connecting it via a usb cable ? and enabling teather mode from your phone? [11:03] yeah but there is no tethering mode [11:03] oh [11:03] what android phone you got? [11:04] Sony Ericsson xperia x8 [11:06] there are a couple of apps to get tethering working on that phone [11:06] might be slow but you could try that....other than that, without an internet connection you'regoing to truggle [11:07] yeah but none work.with ubuntu [11:07] you don't need a tethering app for ubuntu, you'd install it on your phone, then ubuntu would recognise it as a modem and use your 3g as connection [11:08] which app do I get [11:08] Dudley-puppy: up to you, there are a few, go reasearch good [11:08] google [11:08] which version of android [11:08] it is built in for the new versions [11:08] 2.1 [11:09] don't think the x8 has it iirc [11:09] ok, if it isn't in the settings menu then some kind of app would be in order I guess [11:10] PDANet or Easyteather, they are trial apps but you could try one [11:10] ps i'm finding all this from google, so it's not hard to find. [11:11] if the mp3 support comes in from repos, apt-zip would be a completely different approach [11:22] ubuntu's official mp3 support comes from the package gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 [11:23] well, gstreamer0.10-fluendo-plugins-mp3-partner [11:23] if you just download that deb, that'll add mp3 to gstreamer apps [11:23] which package do I need amd64 or the other one [11:24] Dudley-puppy, do you have amd64 or i386 ubuntu? [11:24] "uname -m" in a terminal. [11:24] I dont know [11:24] ^^^ see above [11:24] i386 [11:24] then you need that version :) [11:25] i686 sorry [11:25] amd64 is for 64bit os version [11:26] http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/g/gstreamer0.10-fluendo-plugins-partner/gstreamer0.10-fluendo-plugins-mp3-partner_7.0.20100316-3_i386.deb [11:26] but its not fedora [11:27] ...... [11:27] Dudley-puppy: what's that got to do with anything? [11:27] if i express myself as i desire at this point, i'll get kickbanned. [11:28] oh soz [11:28] it may involve words which sound like "duck" [11:28] directhex: calm it down :D [11:29] MooDoo, EVERY TIME i go out of my way to help - not just giving hints, but the full answer with links to everything that could be desired, it turns out to be something like this. [11:29] never happens when i just give a throwaway answer which is right-ish but largely unhelpful. only when i go the extra length. [11:30] directhex: pita i know, but we all have to learn and i'm guessing that not all people are as old as us ;) [11:32] Dudley-puppy: ARE YOU USING FEDORA OR UBUNTU? [11:33] MooDoo: he's already said he's installed Ubuntu [11:33] ubuntu [11:33] ah cool sorry :) [11:33] 10:45:10 < Dudley-puppy> yay ubuntu is now installing (for once) [11:33] ah must of missed that :) [11:34]

but its not fedora [11:35] * MooDoo wonders if he should mention RPM Fusion :p lol [11:36] Dudley-puppy: just out of interest, unless i've missed this too, how are you on IRC? at work? and computer is at home? [11:37] MooDoo: you missed it, he's on a phone [11:37] aha! [11:38] but also dual boot with windows, right? [11:38] isn't the issue to get the wireless working rather than mp3 without internet [11:38] i suspect so [11:49] hello :D [11:50] sorry ignore that [11:57] using this website reminds me of unity: http://www.calgary.ca/SitePages/cocis/default.aspx === Jay15 is now known as JacobLegend-XD [12:02] What type of micro SD card do I want for a mobile, if anyone can recommend, used to buy the cheapest but does anyone know better [12:02] ? [12:02] I can't imagine the speed/class matters, diplo - I'd get as large as is affordable, in case you need to transport large amounts of data or music [12:03] You can get a 16gig card for ~£15 nowadays I think [12:03] yeah, seeing different classes are better for speed [12:03] yeah got a sandisk one here for £13.99 [12:03] But it's a type2 ? [12:04] I think you only need a fast speed card if you are doing something like writing his-red video to the card. For music I would just buy a cheap card. [12:05] Type 2 is what I have, no problems with it for the most part. Only issue is if I want to record video at 1080p, gets a bit jerky because it's not writing fast enough I think. [12:05] Woot! Lunch time [12:07] Cheers [12:07] I got a class 6 for my phone, I use apps to sd a bit and have seen the performance improve from the class 2 I had before [12:08] Will take a look at price difference ta [12:09] Hmm, tenner dearer [12:18] what site diplo ? ebuyer seems good pricewise, so is play.com [12:19] diplo: i got a class 10 for my phone [12:20] had been having issues recording HD video to the sd card with a class 2 [12:21] Sorry wen twith Amazon has i had a fiver left on a voucher [12:22] Going to go for class6/10 next pay day [12:22] Have a backup card with the 2 and replace it [12:22] Not got HD video yet so need to worry on that side [12:27] who highlighted me? [12:32] dependency is not satisfiable: lsusb-1.0-0 [12:32] what does this mean [12:33] and how do I solve it [12:34] it just means you're trying to install something that requires something else that is a specific version..... [12:34] to fix it, i would google it. [12:36] I dont know what to do [12:37] neither do i to be honest, but there may be something on google that could help you, especially if no one knows here. [12:37] *sigh* ok then [12:38] no need to sigh, we're trying to help, but you also need to try to help yourself :) [12:38] or provide detailed info required to give specific answers [12:38] e.g. in this case, the version of ubuntu you're using would be a start [12:38] what version is it? [12:39] 9.10 beta [12:40] beta? [12:40] That's quite old Dudley-puppy [12:40] don't you have a later version? [12:40] yeah [12:40] I know and I cant update without the internet [12:41]