[00:47] <philipballew> is off to the davis lug meeting!
[00:52] <maintenance-man> be excellent!
[01:17] <jyo> Should be an interesting commute home tonight.
[01:19] <akk> On BART?
[01:21] <rww> follow @sfbart on your phone. it's been keeping up to date on station closures
[01:22] <jyo> Ah, much better than following the real-time search. Thanks, rww
[01:24] <maintenance-man> what's the deal with the government disabling cell phone service in SF?
[01:24] <jyo> BART shut down cellphone service to stall out a protest last week.
[01:25] <seidos> oh!  it was BART too
[01:25] <seidos> i didn't pick that up on the article i read
[01:25] <rww> no, it was just BART.
[01:25] <jyo> Of course, we could have a public policy debate on the legality of this tactic.
[01:25] <seidos> what was the protest even supposed to be about?
[01:26] <jyo> BART police shooting at Civic Center Station a few weeks ago.
[01:26] <seidos> *just* BART, then what i read was wrong.  great.
[01:26] <seidos> ah
[01:26] <rww> I didn't know BART had cellphone "towers" on BART property. Explains how I get signal down there, I guess.
[01:26] <akk> As somebody just said on twitter, "Dear @SFBART: you can't take away our ability to reach 911 when you also make it a habit of shooting your riders."
[01:27] <seidos> that's a huge can of worms then.
[01:27] <seidos> i should probably try to find more information on it
[01:28] <jyo> Of course, I'm not quite sure which is more disruptive, the shooting, the planned protest, the cell disruption, or the shutting down of 3+ stations in Downtown SF.
[01:29] <seidos> the shooting was probably the worst of it.  someone died presumably.
[01:31] <rww> Civic and Montgomery are open now, Powell is still disembark-only
[01:31] <rww> 01:13 < rww> I assume Anonymous got tired from walking between stations and started leaving.
[01:32] <rww> or they stuck with Powell? iono.
[01:38] <seidos> hmmm, these shootings are tricky.
[01:38] <seidos> getting drunk, and throwing bottles and knives at police...
[01:38] <rww> aiui, they threw a bottle and brandished a knife
[01:39] <rww> but yeah, I think they're a lot less black-and-white than a lot of Internet people are thinking
[01:39] <seidos> this article says a knife was thrown:  http://articles.sfgate.com/2011-07-22/bay-area/29801606_1_bart-officials-charles-blair-hill-train-car
[01:39] <seidos> Internet people don't have a clue, because they are safe behind their computer
[01:40] <jyo> "But I'm tunneling my connection through a box in SF!"
[01:40] <seidos> i don't think i'd even want to carry a gun if i were a cop
[01:40] <seidos> maybe a squirt gun
[01:40] <seidos> but that probably wouldn't last long
[01:41] <jyo> seidos: That's funny because there was the taser gun vs. gun gun thing in the Oscar Grant thing
[01:41] <seidos> jyo: was that a subway shooting in NY?
[01:42] <jyo> No, even earlier BART shooting
[01:42] <seidos> oh, i thought it was in NY
[01:42] <seidos> iirc it was "wanted to go for tazer, grabbed gun instead"
[01:42] <rww> Embarcadero just became disembark-only
[01:42] <jyo> seidos: despite the weight discrepancy between the two
[01:43] <seidos> jyo: the firearm is probably on the right hip, easier to grab
[01:43] <seidos> if one is right handed, which is typical
[01:43] <seidos> not sure how practical running around without a firearm is for an officer of the law with existing laws in the books
[01:44] <seidos> *on
[01:44] <seidos> typos are probably a sign i should shut up now :)
[01:47] <rww> Embarcadero just closed completely.
[01:56] <jyo> All right, guys, leaving the office. Thanks again for @SFBart, rww.
[01:58] <seidos> hey philipballew, wb
[01:59] <philipballew> whats up!
[01:59] <seidos> trying to update this file of the dhammapada i have
[01:59] <philipballew> why are you doin that
[02:00] <seidos> i think the stuff in the dhammapada is good, and the bot i have pulls lines from it
[02:01] <seidos> and to pretend to be useful :)
[02:17] <rww> embarcadero just opened
[05:01] <bkerensa> How goes BART?
[05:01] <bkerensa> :D
[06:15] <pleia2> meh, bart
[06:15] <pleia2> but I didn't miss the *whole* first inning, so I guess it was ok
[06:16] <pleia2> btw, when they say "open" on twitter, they actually mean they opened one of the entrances (which, by fate, is always the one furtherest from where you happen to be)
[06:17] <pleia2> and then they have 50 cops looking at all the passengers suspiciously
[06:51] <philipballew> Just got back from the davis lug. talk was on foss gaming and development
[07:42] <bkerensa> =o
[07:42] <bkerensa> I love UC Davis... They know how to party
[07:45] <philipballew> bkerensa, haha. its a nice area. only an hour from where i live
[07:51] <bkerensa> phillipballew: My cousin is a grad from there but now she is doing Grad School at New Mexico State
[07:51] <bkerensa> :D
[07:51] <bkerensa> Both colleges gave her full ride
[07:52] <bkerensa> phillipballew: Have you had a chance to ride the Davis doubledecker bus?
[07:54] <frapinlap> i have not read  the ubuntu code of conduct
[08:00] <philipballew> odd name
[08:01] <philipballew> bkerensa, never. you?
[08:01] <bkerensa> yeah tis fun :) /me now sleeping ttyl :D
[08:09] <philipballew> ttyl!
[17:42] <MarkDude> pleia2: did you see those pics yet? Pretty funny.
[17:42] <pleia2> MarkDude: yeah, they're great :)
[17:42] <MarkDude> My grandma said the game was extra boring- and my Sailor Moon shirt was the highlight
[17:43] <sn9> URL?
[17:43] <pleia2> lol
[17:44] <MarkDude> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1955194884972.2099650.1395696276&type=1
[17:44] <MarkDude> I think it is not public tho
[17:44] <sn9> The page you requested cannot be displayed right now. It may be temporarily unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, or you may not have permission to view this page.
[17:45] <MarkDude> or your dumbass is NOT on fb
[17:45] <MarkDude> not like near a billion people use it or anything- its just a fad
[17:47] <MarkDude> I can post them on google + when I get back home
[17:47] <sn9> then what is google+ ?
[17:48] <sn9> there's gotta be a fad in there somewhere
[17:48]  * MarkDude will play the circular question, answer, then more questions game later with you sn9 :D
[17:48] <sn9> "Baseball August, 2011"
[18:04] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Have you ever been to Fanny Ann's?
[18:08] <seidos> social "networking":  because your bandwidth is crap.
[18:09] <bkerensa> My bandwidth will be better soon
[18:09] <bkerensa> :D
[18:09] <bkerensa> Moving to Comcast Business Class this week :D
[18:13] <MarkDude> No fanny anns
[18:13] <MarkDude> I DID get jono a shirt that said
[18:13] <MarkDude> Wankers corner country store- I hope to see him wear during concert
[18:14] <MarkDude> There is a place in Oregon called wankers corner
[18:14] <bkerensa> Fanny ann's in Old Sac = The Win
[18:14] <bkerensa> they have a bartender who has worked there for years and he hooks up drinks
[18:14] <bkerensa> :P
[18:14] <bkerensa> One my 24th Birthday he bought me and five of my peeps 2 rounds of Patron Doubleshots
[18:15] <bkerensa> My family has been going there for like 20 years though :P
[18:16] <bkerensa> I'm kinda surprised the rich bay area branch of my family has not bought the place out :P
[18:17] <MarkDude> Well I try to avoid excremento when possible :P
[18:17] <MarkDude> its usually possible to
[18:17] <bkerensa> MarkDude: You know Angela Alioto or of her right?
[18:18] <bkerensa> She is an extended family member =/
[18:18] <bkerensa> so is Joseph Canciamilla who used to be CA Legislator
[18:18] <bkerensa> :(
[18:18] <bkerensa> damn Sicilians
[18:18] <MarkDude> Yep
[18:18] <bkerensa> I dont talk to the Canciamillas or Alioto's though
[18:19] <bkerensa> too much italian drama for me
[18:19] <bkerensa> :P
[18:19] <MarkDude> Well I have decided to not research family history - much past the 1950s
[18:19]  * MarkDude is related to Ciro *the artichoke king* Terranova
[18:20] <bkerensa> Well in Martinez the Canciamillas own probably four blocks of the most expensive homes they also own a family cemetery in San Jose... idk My grandmother is a Canciamilla by birth
[18:20] <MarkDude> thats cool - that was a long time ago- when branches start heading towards more current members of *The Family* I shy away
[18:20] <bkerensa> Canciamilla and Lima's came over from Palermo, Sicily and then the Aliotos ehh :P
[18:21] <bkerensa> In fact Joe Canciamilla was at my cousins wedding and he was telling us younger italians that in the old day when you got married the bride had to spend the night with the town boss first
[18:21] <bkerensa> :P
[18:22] <MarkDude> Well many people from Sicilia used to take the name of their *boss*
[18:22] <MarkDude> much of my family comes from the town that was called Terranova
[18:23] <MarkDude> as well as Palermo
[18:23] <seidos> Nova Secolorum or some such
[18:23] <bkerensa> heh
[18:24] <seidos> Novus Ordo Seclorum
[18:24] <seidos> he says after checking a $1 bill
[18:24] <seidos> The Nova Ordo Seclorum so that there will be a Terranova
[18:25] <MarkDude> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morello_crime_family
[18:25] <MarkDude> :)
[18:27] <seidos> the one world mafia
[18:28] <seidos> what up philipballew
[18:28]  * MarkDude prefers people not use the M-word
[18:28] <MarkDude> It is called *The Family*
[18:29] <MarkDude> and for the record- it is also Mr Sinatra
[18:29] <philipballew> yo seidos
[18:29] <seidos> Mr Sinatra is dead
[18:29] <MarkDude> reminds me bkerensa - did you know Frank Sinatra once saved a man's life?
[18:29] <seidos> sadly
[18:29] <MarkDude> he lives on
[18:29] <seidos> where?
[18:29] <MarkDude> in music
[18:29] <bkerensa> MarkDude: I had no idea
[18:30] <MarkDude> and spirit
[18:30] <seidos> what is "he"?
[18:30] <MarkDude> Yep, he told his bodygaurd "thats enought"
[18:30] <MarkDude> lol
[18:35] <bkerensa> Looks like Ubuntu CA is doing reapproval today
[18:35] <bkerensa> :D
[18:35]  * bkerensa will have to sit in on the council meeting
[18:35] <philipballew> what time was that bkerensa
[18:36] <bkerensa> 8pm UTC today in #ubuntu-meeting
[18:37] <philipballew> all time should be put in ca time for my convenience :)
[18:37] <bkerensa> indeed
[18:38] <bkerensa> I have no idea what time that is PDT
[18:38] <sn9> 1pm
[18:38] <bkerensa> :)
[18:38] <rww> my IRC client is in UTC. y'all doing it wrong :P
[18:39]  * bkerensa needs to observe how this application/reapproval meetings go so he can determine when to apply for Ubuntu OR approval
[18:40] <nhaines> Ubuntu membership works in that you do what you'd do as an Ubuntu member and after 6 months if you're still doing it and have plans for the future, you can typically become a member.
[18:40] <MarkDude> Well 1st you need to donate some blood bkerensa - Canonical does not actually *explain* why this is needed- but it appears important
[18:41] <MarkDude> Then you need to pledge allegiance to Circle of Friends logo-
[18:41] <MarkDude> then and only then do they teach you the secret handshake :)
[18:42] <bkerensa> nhaines: I'm talking about LoCo approval... I'm far past the 6 month line for personal contributions and do not plan to apply for membership for a bit
[18:42] <MarkDude> The details will be dispatched to you by a courier soon bkerensa
[18:42] <bkerensa> "D
[18:42] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Indeed
[18:42] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Well its a good there are three Canonical employees in our loco :D
[18:42] <nhaines> Ubuntu LoCo approval works in that you do what you'd do as an approved LoCo and after 6 months if you're still doing it and have plans for the future, you can typically become an approved LoCo and nothing changes except you can get CDs once a cycle.
[18:43] <MarkDude> Much nicer than Fedora's they want DNA samples, fingerprints, and a retina scan
[18:43] <nhaines> Unless you're a language-based LoCo, in which case the LoCo Council hates you and doesn't consider you a "real" LoCo and you're breaking the LoCo Directory and Launchpad.
[18:43] <MarkDude> the retina scan is to get access to the orbital laser
[18:44] <rww> I'm trying to think of a time when Ubuntu membership has actually been useful.
[18:44] <nhaines> rww: you get business cards.
[18:44] <rww> The cloak gave me access to +q silly people in #ubuntu-irc a few times, I guess there's that.
[18:44] <bkerensa> nhaines: If you buy them yourself
[18:44] <bkerensa> :P
[18:44] <nhaines> bkerensa: and did I ever!  :P
[18:44] <rww> nhaines: If I made business cards, I wouldn't have them be walking advertisements for Ubuntu :P
[18:45] <nhaines> Also I'm angry because there's no new branding cards and now that it's a year out that's rediculous.
[18:45] <bkerensa> nhaines: I don't see any benefit to having Ubuntu business cards especially if you have business cards from your company/org
[18:45] <rww> probably because the new branding is ridiculous
[18:45] <nhaines> rww: the new branding is pleasant.
[18:45] <rww> make some business cards with it, then :3
[18:45] <nhaines> rww: but I'm lazy.  :)
[18:45] <MarkDude> the new branding is also proprietary ;)
[18:46] <bkerensa> rww: +1 for not paying out of your own pocket to advertise something that makes others money :)
[18:46] <nhaines> bkerensa: I give out Ubuntu cards when I'm doing community work.
[18:46] <rww> MarkDude: how so?
[18:46] <MarkDude> Well the font is only partially open
[18:46] <MarkDude> Not saying that is wrong
[18:46] <nhaines> rww: in the same way that all branding for all big distros is pretty much proprietary.
[18:47] <bkerensa> nhaines: Cool... Well everyone in the metro area I live in knows what Ubuntu is... Unless they have lived under a rock for the last decade
[18:47] <bkerensa> :D
[18:47] <MarkDude> Branding should be protected
[18:47] <MarkDude> nhaines: is correct
[18:47] <nhaines> bkerensa: I don't give out my business cards so people know what Ubuntu is.  I do it so they know who I am and vaguely what they talked to me about.
[18:47] <bkerensa> rww: The branding is all trademark
[18:47] <nhaines> (I haven't made new green personal cards lately but those were very popular.)
[18:48] <bkerensa> :D
[18:49] <bkerensa> I hope Linus gets back from vacation soon
[18:49] <bkerensa> :D
[18:49] <bkerensa> trying to get him to come to Ubuntu Global Jam
[18:49] <nhaines> The Ubuntu fonts are also as open as any other open font I've seen.
[18:50] <rww> Yeah, I was gonna say. Apart from the ball being dropped on UFL being an interim license, I haven't seen criticism of ubuntu-font-family's licensing.
[18:50] <nhaines> rww: I don't think it's interim anymore.
[18:50] <MarkDude> bkerensa: tell him it will be a Gnome 3 free zone
[18:50] <rww> nhaines: it's de facto not interim. The website still talks about how it is.
[18:50] <rww> MarkDude: Ubuntu oneiric uses GNOME 3.
[18:51] <bkerensa> bkerensa: I will tell him that almost everyone in our LoCo despises chaotic desktop enviroments like Gnome 3 and Unity
[18:51] <MarkDude> lol
[18:51] <bkerensa> :P
[18:51]  * MarkDude forgot about that- wonder if Linus will say it sucks there also
[18:51] <bkerensa> I'm sure
[18:51]  * MarkDude will just endorse Puppy Linux and say screw the rest
[18:52] <bkerensa> If you look at polls on Unity or Gnome 3 you will see the communities are divided
[18:52] <_-_-_> memories are made of this
[18:52] <MarkDude> bkerensa: if you just LOOK
[18:52] <bkerensa> MarkDude: I thought you endorse Fedora :P Ya big fence sitter
[18:52] <bkerensa> "D
[18:52] <MarkDude> you will see it also
[18:53]  * MarkDude endorses FOSS
[18:53] <MarkDude> Most any Linux is good in my book
[18:53] <pleia2> +1
[18:53] <MarkDude> Ubuntu is awesome
[18:53] <bkerensa> :D
[18:53] <rww> I don't think it's as big of a deal as people make out. The underlying technology is all the same. It's like saying the KDE community is split because we have a bunch of different Plasma workspaces.
[18:53] <bkerensa> indeed
[18:53] <MarkDude> Never said otherwise
[18:54] <MarkDude> Mark S has managed to bring Linux to the masses, and made a great community while doing so
[18:55] <rww> I'd allege that the masses have no idea what Linux and Ubuntu are :P
[18:55] <bkerensa> rww: I would beg to differ
[18:55] <bkerensa> rww: The masses use Linux every single day whether they realize it or not
[18:55] <nhaines> rww: bkerensa says you don't allege that.  How do you respond?
[18:55] <rww> bkerensa: I didn't say they don't use it, I said they don't know what it is.
[18:56] <bkerensa> rww: Web/Mail Servers, Linux Based Mobile Devices, Linux Power Vending Kiosks :D
[18:56] <MarkDude> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18ZJZbrAD6o  <<< my take on Distros- with quick appearance from Bill Kendrick (TuxPaint)
[18:56] <bkerensa> rww: We should crowd-source a billboard in metro areas that says "Linux is: Android, Ubuntu, Facebook etc etc etc"
[18:57] <nhaines> Nobody knows what Android is.
[18:57] <bkerensa> LOL
[18:57] <bkerensa> I'm sure :)
[18:58] <nhaines> At least people seem to know what "Droid" is but then they superscope it.  Well, it's a start.  :)
[18:59] <akk> People don't even know what browser they use.
[18:59] <nhaines> akk: what's a browser?
[19:00] <sn9> and no one will care about google's acquisition of motorola, either
[19:00] <nhaines> sn9: what's a google?  :)
[19:00] <rww> nhaines: a web browser
[19:00] <nhaines> I'm hoping the acquisition kills the pattent troubles.
[19:00] <nhaines> rww: is that the one with the "e" or the one with the cat?
[19:00] <rww> nhaines: I think it's that mozerella one
[19:01] <bkerensa> Does Ubuntu CA have any members that work at Google? :)
[19:01] <nhaines> rww: I prefer stuffed crust.
[19:01] <pleia2> bkerensa: yes, none that are currently in channel though
[19:02] <bkerensa> pleia2: We have a few but they are all datacenter monkeys
[19:02] <bkerensa> :D
[19:02] <pleia2> my fiance is a network engineer
[19:02] <bkerensa> :D
[19:03] <bkerensa> Its not a bad gig.. I would never do it.... Too isolated of a job
[19:03] <bkerensa> limited interaction with others
[19:03] <MarkDude> And a mammoth hunter I might add pleia2
[19:03] <pleia2> datacenter monkey?
[19:03] <pleia2> I guess it depends on the NOC
[19:04] <MarkDude> Best contacts at Google are Chris DiBona
[19:04] <MarkDude> and if a dev- Michael Van Riper- aka VAN
[19:04] <MarkDude> IMHO
[19:05] <bkerensa> datacenter monkey: One who spends his/her days or nights working in a datacenter
[19:05] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Or Carol Smith
[19:05] <bkerensa> MarkDude: All the Google people up here work at The Dalles DC....
[19:07]  * bkerensa needs to go work on his Ubuntu Talk he is doing next Monday at PDX Wordpress
[19:53] <philipballew> meeting soon in #ubuntu-meeting I see
[19:55] <pleia2> yeah, in 5 minutes, but UK is up before us :)
[19:56] <philipballew> haha, so it might be a little later I see.
[19:57] <philipballew> will be there. any special words I might want to say
[19:57] <pleia2> not really, you can watch the UK reapproval to see how it works
[19:59] <philipballew> yeah, ive watched a couple before, there pretty straight foreword if i remember correct
[19:59] <philipballew> been a while though
[19:59] <pleia2> yep
[20:00] <jtatum> uk first? cool
[20:07] <pleia2> btw, there was data loss when loco.ubuntu.com had to do an emergency migration recently, so everyone should make sure events they added recently are still there: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california
[20:07] <pleia2> they're trying to restore everything, but it's unclear if they'll be able to and if you need your event up now you should readd it
[20:09] <DarkwingDuck> philipballew: I'm still looking at options... Panera was okay with a meeting... Not so cool with the bandwidth sucking we would be doing.
[20:11] <philipballew> DarkwingDuck, yeah, I should have factored in the bandwith. what kind of options do you see. also could we set up a local repo to use to save bandwith?
[20:13] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, I'm working on getting my desktop to work as a local repo
[20:14] <DarkwingDuck> Desktop/server
[20:14] <DarkwingDuck> I'm also looking at maybe other options for a conf room of sorts.
[20:14] <bkerensa> :) Just got off the phone with a company who is sponsor our global jam food... They asked if a sign will say food sponsored by: x company
[20:14] <bkerensa> :D
[20:14] <bkerensa> I said yeah thats fine just no sales pitches or advertising :P
[20:16] <DarkwingDuck> I'm going to talk to the USO and Vet center downtown and see what they have open for a vet :D
[20:18] <philipballew> DarkwingDuck, I like this. that food idea is not a bad idea bkerensa. DarkwingDuck would we need any networking equipment as well you think?
[20:19] <DarkwingDuck> I can't find my second wireless router.
[20:19] <nhaines> I remember once on the US-CA list someone said he loved Ubuntu and  asked if the law firm he owned could sponsor discs, with just a little "CDs provided by" line on the label.
[20:19] <nhaines> As I recall, another user flamed him, saying how reprehensible that would be and how he would leave the LoCo and never partcipate in events if they were sponsored by companies.
[20:19] <nhaines> The volunteer apologized and withdrew his offer, and was never heard from again.
[20:20] <pleia2> oh, fine time for a customer call
[20:20] <nhaines> Of course, the flamer had never posted before and never posted again, never participated in meetings or events and his only contribution was to make someone feel bad for offering assistance.
[20:20] <DarkwingDuck> ... What was that person thinking? How do they think conferences get paid for?
[20:20] <DarkwingDuck> Speaking of... I need to get ahold of Garath again...
[20:20] <DarkwingDuck> *Gareth
[20:22] <bkerensa> Well my thing is I guess
[20:22] <bkerensa> People expect food and stickers and cds at events
[20:22] <bkerensa> and all of that costs money
[20:22] <bkerensa> :P
[20:22] <bkerensa> Economy is bad right now and even if it wasnt people tend to be cheap
[20:22] <bkerensa> :)
[20:23] <philipballew> DarkwingDuck, I have a extra router i can bring and probably whatever else.
[20:23] <philipballew> desktop if need be
[20:23] <philipballew> external hd
[20:23] <bkerensa> We have our venue, food, beverages, t-shirts, stickers, magazine and everything sponsored and I'm going to make like three small signs that say thanks and that is all
[20:23] <philipballew> people think bkerensa that cause linus is free the stuff should be to maybe?
[20:23] <philipballew> *linux
[20:24] <pleia2> reapproval over in #ubuntu-meeting now
[20:25] <bkerensa> phillipballew: Perhaps :P
[20:31] <nhaines> pleia2: tell cztab that the LoCo handles the statewide announcements and the UH leaders handle the local stuff.
[20:32] <pleia2> nhaines: thanks :)
[20:32] <nhaines> pleia2: thankies.  Hope it helped.  :)
[20:35] <nhaines> Hmm.. maybe I should actually do something with ubucon.org first, but maybe an UH page on that site would be useful.
[20:35] <nhaines> Of course, I could just as easily argue that it'd be better to improve (create?) existing documentation.
[20:37] <philipballew> nhaines, would a ubuntu wiki page work?
[20:39] <pleia2> woohoo, the contractor didn't shut off my power during the meeting \o/
[20:39]  * pleia2 had tethered phone and netbook standing by :)
[20:39] <nhaines> haha  :)
[20:39] <pleia2> we're reapproved, congrats everyone
[20:39] <philipballew> HIGH FIVE \0/
[20:39] <pleia2> ^5
[20:40] <DarkwingDuck> Whoot!
[20:40] <DarkwingDuck> +6
[20:40] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, now to get down and dirty with the SD stuff.
[20:40] <nhaines> philipballew: there are already wiki pages and they are vague and inscrutable.
[20:40] <DarkwingDuck> philipballew: I have some future ideas :D
[20:41] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: yeah, SD has to have a jam! the holiday has pretty much killed us for planning anything up here (everyone is gone)
[20:41] <DarkwingDuck> Oh yeah... We WILL have a jam if it's with burgers in my backyard. :)
[20:41] <pleia2> \o/
[20:42] <philipballew> would invite the jam into his 8x10 dorm room, but that might be a bad idea
[20:42] <pleia2> jono usually plans something near his place, but I haven't heard anything from him yet
[20:42] <pleia2> philipballew: lol
[20:42] <DarkwingDuck> philipballew: You guys have a computer center there at school?
[20:42] <pleia2> are there any friendly hackerspaces near SD?
[20:42] <pleia2> we've had good luck at them, space and internets
[20:43] <pleia2> and hackerspace types tend to drop by unannounced too, so bonus attendees :)
[20:43] <philipballew> no. everything closes on weekends though. theres a 2600 there i know
[20:43] <DarkwingDuck> I've been getting to my the LUG down here.
[20:43] <DarkwingDuck> They seem very supportive.
[20:44] <philipballew> maybe kevin has a place at his work at qualcomm if need be
[20:44] <pleia2> back in philly we had most of our jams at offices, just reached out to the local LUG and someone typically would be able to offer a conference room or something on a weekend
[20:45] <philipballew> the people at the lug there are nice
[20:45] <DarkwingDuck> If I *had* a job I might be able to.
[20:46] <DarkwingDuck> I'm going to call the Vet center and see what options they have.
[20:46] <pleia2> for a second there I thought you meant veterinarian
[20:47] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[20:47] <DarkwingDuck> Military Vets.
[20:47] <philipballew> ubuntu-doggy edition
[20:47] <pleia2> well maybe if you want to bring your cats to the ja... OH VETS
[20:47] <pleia2> :)
[20:47] <nhaines> pleia2: if you mentioned you were working on oneiric ocelots they would run.  :)
[20:48] <pleia2> haha, fixing bugs on ocelots (fleas?)
[20:48] <philipballew> ill contact the zoo and see if we can barrow the ocelot's for the day. haha
[20:48] <pleia2> "Two mauled at San Diego Ubuntu event"
[20:49] <seidos> caught a flea the other day using a flea comb.  it liked cat food.
[20:49] <philipballew> they had time to to get up and run, but wittness say they kept hearing them say "just one more bug fix"
[20:51]  * seidos punches philipballew in the face
[20:51] <seidos> ah, tough love
[20:52] <seidos> my gf is a middle school teacher, she is a metaphorical cattle prod
[20:52] <seidos> that reminds me, time to clean the bathroom
[20:52] <philipballew> :) how did that remind you?
[20:54] <seidos> she was the one that told me to clean the bathroom ;)
[20:54] <seidos> while i was finishing cleaning, i couldn't help wonder what was harder, coding in perl, or cleaning
[20:55] <seidos> i think coding takes more time, not sure that i would call it "harder" though
[20:56] <akk> It's a lot more fun than cleaning bathrooms
[20:56] <akk> though in perl, that might be arguable :)
[20:56] <DarkwingDuck> Woah... HTC Fires back at apple.
[20:57] <philipballew> perl and its modulus are interesting
[20:59] <philipballew> only speaks python well though
[20:59] <seidos> cool.  show me some code.
[21:01] <philipballew> im currently tryig to write a gui for a text to speach cli software.
[21:04] <seidos> how many lines do you have so far?
[21:04] <crashsystems> ewe, perl
[21:05] <crashsystems> If anyone is looking for any perl dev jobs though, let me know.
[21:05] <seidos> that would probably ruin perl for me forever
[21:05] <bkerensa> lol
[21:06] <crashsystems> I think learning perl would ruin perl for me.
[21:06] <bkerensa> A manager at a tech company asked his employee to attend global jam
[21:06] <bkerensa> I just heard this down the grapevine
[21:06] <philipballew> its not that many. but when it gets further along, il'll send you the stuff. i gtg. peace!!!
[21:08] <seidos> i used to think a job in development would work for me, i realize now this is just a hobby
[21:08] <seidos> i'm not sure i'll ever work in tech again tbh
[21:08] <sn9> :(
[21:08] <seidos> oddly, it doesn't even bother me
[21:09] <seidos> assuming it's true, prediction of the future is a challenging endeavor
[21:10] <crashsystems> when/where is the mountain view meetup on thursday?
[21:10] <seidos> it's on the website, i'm sure
[21:10] <seidos> let me see if i can find it
[21:12] <akk> Usually Red Rock.
[21:12] <seidos> crashsystems: says 7-8pm here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours
[21:12] <crashsystems> thanks. anyone in here currently planning on going?
[21:13] <akk> I probably will, not sure yet.
[21:13] <crashsystems> I think I may try
[21:16] <jdeslip> Congrats everyone :)
[21:17] <seidos> this http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/fastcompany/headlines/~3/viJB33o_e5s/a-flywheel-powered-bicycle-offers-regenerative-braking-for-your-bike reminds me of when i was riding a bike in san francisco.  i think i had 10 speeds, i was borrowing it.  and this guy on a single speed bmx bike was doing just fine keeping up
[23:46] <bkerensa> pleia2: I think out Ubuntu Book and Server Book is on its way
[23:47] <pleia2> bkerensa: did you receive confirmation from them?
[23:50] <bkerensa> One of their PR people e-mailed me and cc'ed sales saying to send two books
[23:50] <bkerensa> :)
[23:51] <bkerensa> did you use a form or contact them direct?
[23:53] <pleia2> jono's blog post said to email them directly
[23:53] <pleia2> I never heard anything
[23:56] <pleia2> I'll follow-up