[12:33] <mvo> bryceh: do you mind if I upload http://paste.ubuntu.com/667262/ ? the upgrade tester is currently unhappy because of this
[17:11] <bryceh> mvo, yes please go ahead
[18:20] <Sarvatt> goodbye SNA in edgers! :(
[18:20] <bryceh> Sarvatt, problems?
[18:21] <Sarvatt> yeah too many reports of problems that only happen under unity
[18:22] <bryceh> mm
[18:23] <bryceh> Sarvatt, might be worth mentioning to Intel at tomorrow's meeting; I got your invite, are you planning to attend it?
[18:24] <jcristau> i've seen ickle mention sna not liking unity a few times
[18:32] <Sarvatt> yeah they know, there was a bug where ickle said he wasn't even going to look at it until unity is valgrind clean thats been sitting for 2 months :P we wont be turning it on until 12.10 at the earliest anyway and I'm getting tons of complaints (well ~15 emails a week) about it, oddly i dont have any problems on any of my machines
[18:36] <Sarvatt> yeah i'll be on the call tomorrow, shared the calendar entry vanhoof made about it because you werent on it for some reason
[18:45] <ricotz> Sarvatt, did you get the ubuntu-p kernel to compile? i was getting a message like "unsupported kernel version" from the buildscripts yesterday
[18:45] <Sarvatt> yep, one sec
[18:46] <Sarvatt> DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel=64 AUTOBUILD=1 NOEXTRAS=1 skipabi=true fakeroot debian/rules no_dumpfile=1 binary-headers binary-generic
[18:46] <Sarvatt> need the no_dumpfile=1
[18:46] <ricotz> ah, thanks!
[18:47] <ricotz> parallel 64 sounds nice :P
[18:48] <Sarvatt> yeah kernel team quad xeon X7550, 9 minutes or so :P
[18:49] <ricotz> Sarvatt, hehe
[18:50] <ricotz> i hope darktama will rebase nouveau soon, there are too many conflicts to go through them :\
[18:52] <Sarvatt> holy crap thats a lot of commits
[18:53] <Sarvatt> it already missed the merge window so imagine they will
[18:55] <ricotz> exactly ;)
[19:37] <barry> hi folks.  i installed fglrx and it killed my display.  is there any useful diagnostics i can gather for you before i try to uninstall and reinstall the free driver?
[19:37] <Amaranthus> any idea who I should poke about bug 603599 and bug 698009
[19:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 603599 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Please build the vmwgfx driver (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/603599
[19:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 698009 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Request to enable vmwgfx driver in kernel config (affects: 1) (heat: 15)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/698009
[20:03] <bryceh> Amaranthus, apw would probably be the best guy to talk to about kernel graphics drivers
[20:04] <Amaranthus> good, you just pinged him for me :)
[20:05] <bryceh> might be EOD; you might want to email him just in case Amaranthus
[20:06] <Amaranth> Didn't even notice my nick was wrong
[20:07] <Sarvatt> Amaranth: while vmwgfx in mesa requires X to build and X requires mesa to build I dont see it getting fixes unless you have any ideas on how to get around that
[20:07] <Sarvatt> s/fixes/fixed/
[20:08] <Amaranth> ah, right
[20:08] <Amaranth> well, just getting the kernel side would help me :)
[20:09] <Amaranth> and we don't need the X driver for GL, do we?
[20:10] <Prf_Jakob> You do
[20:10] <Sarvatt> it builds both the X driver and GL driver inside mesa
[20:16] <Sarvatt> i guess one way would be to have another mesa source package that builds it just for vmwgfx with its own packages that replace the mesa ones like the proprietary drivers?
[20:16] <Sarvatt> that'd be a nightmare
[20:20] <Prf_Jakob> Sarvatt: do you really need to replace libGL, can't you just get the vmwgfx_[dri|drv].so from there?
[20:26] <Sarvatt> thats a good point, you'd know better than me :) if thats the case it'd be a lot easier though, i'll try it out
[21:28] <Amaranth> Sarvatt: You only need the files Prf_Jakob mentioned, I just did a manual build and copied those to the right places
[21:28] <Prf_Jakob> Amaranth: you got it to work?
[21:28] <Amaranth> Prf_Jakob: I've been running Ubuntu in fusion with working GL/GLES acceleration for like 3 weeks now, it works fine
[21:29] <Prf_Jakob> Nice!
[21:29]  * Prf_Jakob works for VMware and on that driver.
[21:29] <Amaranth> some weird screen corruption sometimes but usually forcing a redraw fixes it
[21:30] <Prf_Jakob> Which compositor?
[21:30] <Prf_Jakob> Unity?
[21:30] <Amaranth> yeah
[21:30] <Prf_Jakob> Ok
[21:30] <Prf_Jakob> I haven't seen anything like that I think
[21:30] <Prf_Jakob> Next time it happens can you take a screenshot?
[21:31] <Amaranth> may have to do it with a camera, usually touching anything makes it go away
[21:32] <Prf_Jakob> Doing it in Mac should be enough (cmd + shift + 4) 
[22:28] <RAOF> Sarvatt: We could have cyclic build-depends just fine.  It'd make bootstrapping a new architecture that much less fun, but I don't plan on bootstrapping a new architecture anytime soon :)