[06:06] <sakhi> Morning
[06:19] <superfly> morning sakhi, maiatoday
[06:46] <maiatoday> hi superfly
[08:07] <inetpro> good evening
[09:20] <inetpro> superfly: wb
[09:20] <superfly> thanks, dunno what happened there
[09:20] <inetpro> (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
[09:21] <superfly> hrmf, probably Freenode's 7 acting up again
[09:40] <Kilos> still in time to say morning superfly and all others
[09:42] <superfly> hi Kilos
[09:55] <Kilos> rahter poor turnout for the meeting last night. hope that doesnt affect us still being accepted at the powers that be
[09:55] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[09:55]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[09:59] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[10:00] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[10:00] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[10:00] <inetpro> good morning Kilos
[10:00] <Kilos> good morning inetpro 
[10:00] <inetpro> Kilos: the number of attendants should not matter
[10:01] <Kilos> i hope so
[10:02] <inetpro> we just need to keep the ball rolling
[10:03] <Kilos> oh is that all
[10:03] <inetpro> Kilos: yep, and I think you are contributing in a good way
[10:03] <Kilos> dont they want to see growth
[10:03] <inetpro> the fruit will grow sooner or later
[10:04] <Kilos> i had a look at ptawug they near 200 members
[10:05] <Kilos> if not for the need to use googleearth to get pinpointed i would join them
[10:05] <Kilos> i see they even cover other side hartebeestpoort dam
[10:07] <inetpro> well I don't think you can compare ptawug with #ubuntu-za 
[10:08] <inetpro> oh and I think we might even have much more than 200 ubuntu-za members on the mailing list
[10:08] <Kilos> no but they seem to be a similar kinda venture and help each other with repos and so via wireless
[10:08] <inetpro> I think drubin knows the number 
[10:09] <inetpro> Kilos: hmm... not exactly the same
[10:09] <inetpro> we're just focussing on ubuntu, they are focussed on many things
[10:10] <Kilos> no i agree inetpro but if they are into ubuntu then there must be some clever geeks there as well
[10:10] <Kilos> and it seems to be a geeky thing to get pleasure out of helping others
[10:10] <inetpro> Kilos: obviously they have some clever dudes there and some of them are even members of ubuntu-za
[10:11] <Kilos> oh thats good to hear. do you know who?
[10:11] <inetpro> nothing wrong with being a member of multiple groups
[10:12] <Kilos> because i would hate to have to go through the whole please explain why i cant just quickly download stuff
[10:12] <Kilos> if they were all ms oriented i wouldnt be interested at all
[10:13] <inetpro> Kilos: they don't provide internet services
[10:13] <Kilos> but it seems a way to get around the bandwidth issues most of the time
[10:13] <Kilos> yes i saw that
[10:14] <inetpro> getting around it is still illegal
[10:14] <Kilos> but if you can get repos etc over wireless that already will save lots
[10:15] <Kilos> is wireless illegal
[10:16] <inetpro> Kilos: nope not exactly, and yes some will probably share stuff like repos over the wires
[10:17] <Kilos> thats what i read there that the aim is. to limit the need for bandwidth
[10:19] <inetpro> Kilos: just join their irc channel and ask around
[10:20] <Kilos> lol. i tried that but i then get kicked off here because i dunno how to make xchat use 2 different servers
[13:21] <nuvolari> o/
[13:22] <nuvolari> what do you guys think I can use to clean the letters off my keyboard?
[13:25] <superfly> soapy water?
[13:26] <superfly> maybe meths?
[13:33] <cocooncrash> nuvolari: Why do you want to do that?
[13:41] <confluency> Try sugar.
[13:42] <confluency> DIY Dvorak?
[13:42] <confluency> nuvolari: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1723853.html
[13:43] <nuvolari> confluency: ye, need to get rid of qwerty :P
[13:46] <nuvolari> Maaz: 100*15/60.0
[13:46] <Maaz> nuvolari: 25.0
[13:47] <nuvolari> :O
[13:47]  * nlsthzn_work waves
[13:51]  * superfly supresses the urge to make a comment about capes and superheros again ;-)
[13:51] <superfly> hiya Fantastic_Dan
[14:03] <nuvolari> capes? I likes the capes. Wine, Table Mountain, the sea... :P
[14:20] <Fantastic_Dan> heeeeeeey
[16:39] <Kilos> evening all
[16:40]  * nlsthzn_work waves
[16:52] <superfly> hi Kilos, nlsthzn_work
[16:54] <nlsthzn_work> Hi Mr. superfly ...
[16:54] <Kilos> hmm me likes that
[16:55] <Kilos> hiya Mr. superfly 
[16:55] <Kilos> hehe
[16:56] <superfly> Heh.
[16:58] <superfly> oom Kilos
[16:58] <Kilos> hehe
[16:58] <superfly> And Uncle nlsthzn_work
[16:59] <Kilos> oh is he an uncle as well
[17:01] <nlsthzn_work> nope... but thanks for thinking of me :p
[17:01] <Kilos> lol
[17:01] <nlsthzn_work> Yours lord and master, Foamy
[17:05] <superfly> Oh, so it's Foamy nlsthzn_work
[17:07] <nlsthzn_work> Do you know Foamy Squirel?
[17:09] <superfly> No... Do I want to?
[17:09]  * superfly raises an eyebrow
[17:11] <nuvolari> naand oom Kilos 
[17:13] <Symmetria> lol
[17:13] <Symmetria> neat
[17:13] <Symmetria> whatsapp on my pc works
[17:14] <Symmetria> what a hack :P
[17:15] <nlsthzn_work> superfly: to be honest no... not really... he can be rather bad mouthed and very a-religion... He has had a few funny moments but for all the wrong reasons...
[17:16] <superfly> yeah, I figured that was probably part of the Joe Cartoon era
[17:32] <Kilos> real winter night in durban 8°c
[17:32] <Kilos> poor nuvolari 
[17:32] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[17:32]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[17:36] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[17:36] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[17:36] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[17:37] <Kilos> hi drussell 
[17:37] <Kilos> and dan back again
[17:37] <Kilos> yay
[17:38] <Kilos> must be the fantastic 5 now
[17:38] <superfly> Kilos: and he's not just any Dan, he's Fantastic_Dan :-D
[17:38] <Kilos> lol
[17:38] <Kilos> hey superfly hows 365 going
[17:39] <superfly> Kilos: eish, it's currently dead in the water... the framework I was developing it on has reached a dead end, and I'll have to port it to another one, which is going to take a lot of work, and I just don't have time for it right now.
[17:39] <Kilos> has anyone seen drussell  before or is he new
[17:40] <Kilos> aw thats sad superfly 
[17:41] <superfly> Kilos: I think drussell is new in here, either that or he usually uses another nick
[17:41] <Kilos> ah ty
[17:45] <Kilos> oh ya superfly is the pick a day still working with mommy
[17:45] <inetpro> good evening
[17:45] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za inetpro 
[17:45] <Kilos> hehe
[17:45] <Kilos> are you new here
[17:45] <inetpro> Kilos: thanks
[17:46] <superfly> Kilos: no, the server died, and then once I had it up and running she didn't want to do it anymore.
[17:46]  * inetpro never been here before
[17:47] <Kilos> oh well inetpro you are welcome as long as you not a winsucks peep
[17:47] <inetpro> Kilos: hmm...
[17:47] <inetpro> Kilos: what is that?
[17:47] <Kilos> have you heard of ubuntu before
[17:48] <Kilos> its an OS made by microstinks
[17:48] <Kilos> your server superfly ?
[17:48] <Kilos> the p2 one
[17:49] <inetpro> Kilos: what is ubuntu, can I eat it?
[17:49] <superfly> Kilos: what about it?
[17:49] <superfly> oh, no, not that server
[17:49] <Kilos> is that the server that died superfly 
[17:49] <Kilos> oh sorry
[17:50] <superfly> no, that one is still running... they don't make hardware like they used to
[17:50] <superfly> my other one... the one with all the pictures and other files on it
[17:50] <superfly> fortunately the pictures were safe, it was the motherboard that died
[17:50] <Kilos> inetpro, to the best of my knowledge ubuntu is a very tasty flavour with a linux base
[17:50] <inetpro> Symmetria: you got whatsapp going on the PC? How?
[17:50] <Kilos> kinda like milktart
[17:51] <nuvolari> yummy
[17:51] <Kilos> oh thats the mb one. lucky hey
[17:51] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[17:51] <inetpro> hmm, that calls for a cup of coffee
[17:51] <nuvolari> this bakers milk choc break cookies are the best
[17:51] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[17:51]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[17:51] <nuvolari> naand oom Kilos 
[17:52] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[17:52] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[17:52] <inetpro> melktert will be so nice now
[17:52] <Kilos> maybe i must go sleep. felling naughty tonight
[17:53] <nuvolari> :O
[17:53] <Kilos> and only pc around
[17:53] <Kilos> ek lief melktert
[17:53] <inetpro> Kilos: te vroeg om te slaap oom
[17:53] <nuvolari> since wanner is oom stout? :P
[17:54] <Kilos> nie net ek nie seun. die vlieg lyk my het ook bietjie stoutgeid in hom vanaand
[17:55] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[17:56] <Kilos> Maaz, dankie man
[17:56] <Maaz> Groot plesier my vriend
[17:56] <nuvolari> Maaz:  where's mine?
[17:56] <Maaz> nuvolari: *blink*
[17:56] <inetpro> Maaz: baie dankie
[17:56] <Maaz> Plesier inetpro
[17:56] <nuvolari> Maaz: fine
[17:56] <Maaz> nuvolari: *blink*
[17:56] <nuvolari> Maaz: I said fine
[17:56] <Maaz> nuvolari: Huh?
[17:56] <nuvolari> be like that
[17:56] <Kilos> hehe
[18:02] <inetpro> Squirm: wb
[18:02] <Kilos> lo Squirm 
[18:03] <Squirm> heya
[18:03]  * Squirm grumbles
[18:03] <Squirm> I'm trying to find a way to unlock my 3g Modem I bought in the UK :/
[18:03] <Kilos> wassup lad
[18:04] <Kilos> oh hold on
[18:04] <Squirm> DC Unlocker doesn't seem to pick up my modem, yet it says it does
[18:04] <Kilos> i got the site on my external i think
[18:04] <Squirm> :/
[18:07] <Kilos> Squirm, i got mine from this site
[18:07] <Kilos> http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/archive/t-906388-p-63.html
[18:07] <Kilos> most likely without the last bit
[18:08] <Kilos> i got an arab modem
[18:09]  * nlsthzn_work walks like an Eqyptian...
[18:09] <Kilos> lol
[18:09] <Kilos> and you know about modeswitch Squirm 
[18:09] <Squirm> no?
[18:10] <Kilos> usb-modeswitch in synaptic other wise pc sdoesnt see 3g modem
[18:10] <Squirm> ah
[18:10] <Kilos> i think it was usb-modeswitch
[18:10] <Squirm> I just need to figure out how to unlock it first
[18:11] <Kilos> that link above
[18:11] <Squirm> yeah, but then how to actually do it
[18:11] <Kilos> i think i had to register before they helped but then it was within 2 hours
[18:11] <Kilos> they give you a code
[18:12] <Kilos> oh my goodness
[18:12] <Kilos> then i had to plug it into a windows pc and let it install 
[18:13] <Kilos> then when you got a local sim in it will ask for the code those peeps will give you
[18:13] <Kilos> called a NCK code
[18:13] <Kilos> and maybe a NSCK code
[18:14] <Squirm> ok
[18:15] <Kilos> good luck
[18:17]  * Squirm breathes
[18:17] <Kilos> lol
[18:17] <Squirm> here in town they wanted to charge me R150, thats almost 15 pounds
[18:17] <Squirm> bleh
[18:18] <inetpro> hmm... "then i had to plug it into a windows pc"? that is just sad
[18:18] <Squirm> inetpro: it's sad they only make windows specific software
[18:19] <Kilos> yeah inetpro the 3g modems dont install to ubuntu as they do to windows 
[18:19] <Kilos> and it wont ask for an unlock code unless you are in its own program
[18:19] <inetpro> surely there must be a simple AT command to talk to it?
[18:19] <Kilos> they lock them to the service provider
[18:20] <Kilos> like our mtn and voda do
[18:20] <Kilos> do like i did. installed xp on p3 just to unlock the modem
[18:22] <Kilos> those gsm guys were very helpful
[18:23] <Kilos> they even supply firmware for modems and flash goodies
[18:23] <Kilos> i didnt go that far just unlocked and it works kiff
[18:23] <Squirm> that's all I want
[18:24] <Kilos> they will give  you the unlock code
[18:24] <Kilos> windows peeps can even get a program that will work the code out
[18:24] <Squirm> yeah, I tried DC Unlocker
[18:25] <Squirm> which should unlock it, doesnt need a code or anything
[18:25] <Squirm> but idk, I think it's just my pc not liking my dongle
[18:25] <Squirm> :/
[18:25] <Squirm> thats actually what I think it is
[18:25] <Kilos> those gsm guys know all about fones and 3g modems, that their game
[18:27] <Kilos> you gotta install usb-modeswitch
[18:27] <Kilos> then network manager works kiff
[18:27] <Squirm> of which I dont have either
[18:28] <Kilos> oh yes you not on ubuntu hey?
[18:28] <Squirm> will have to figure something out that doesnt use gnome. I could just settle for wvdial
[18:28] <Squirm> im still with debian though
[18:28] <Kilos> i tried that but it didnt work for me
[18:29] <Squirm> I've had it working before
[18:29] <Kilos> but anyway you will first need the unlock code put into the modem
[18:29] <Kilos> we got ians working on kubuntu
[18:30] <Kilos> those gsm guys will help you Squirm 
[18:31] <Kilos> once it is unlocked it will work on any OS
[18:45] <Kilos> aw dan cucked without greeting
[18:45] <Kilos> chucked
[18:45] <Kilos> ducked
[18:46] <inetpro> Kilos: at least I'm still here
[18:46] <Kilos> ya thanks man
[18:47] <inetpro> :-)
[18:47] <Kilos> dit bietjie koud ne inetpro 
[18:47] <inetpro> Kilos: my feet are freezing
[18:48] <superfly> inetpro: sheep skin slippers :-D
[18:48] <Kilos> yeah mine too, and hands and nose and ears
[18:48] <inetpro> superfly: ahh, sounds nice and warm, where do I get those?
[18:49] <superfly> inetpro: there's a pharmacy in Caledon that sells them :-P
[18:49]  * inetpro should take a ride to Caledon on the scooter
[18:50] <inetpro> Kilos: how far is Caledon from here?
[18:51] <Kilos> lol
[18:51] <inetpro> Kilos: is dit baie vêr?
[18:51] <Kilos> ek dink in die kaap
[18:51] <inetpro> eish
[18:51] <Kilos> heel ver
[18:52] <Kilos> daar is plekke hier
[18:52] <Kilos> sal sis vra as sy uit die bad klim
[18:52] <inetpro> nee superfly, so vêr gaan ek noie oorleef op daai scootertjie nie
[18:52] <Kilos> sy het paar weke terug vir swaar gekoop
[18:52] <superfly> hehehe
[18:53] <superfly> yes, Caledon is in the Western Cape
[18:54]  * inetpro should perhaps just get a foot spa
[18:54] <Kilos> inetpro, sy se ook by n apteek. pharmarama
[18:54] <nlsthzn_work> http://hothardware.com/News/Nonprofit-Group-Releases-Open-Source-WiFi-Software/
[18:55] <Kilos> http://www.hotfrog.co.za/Products/Leather-Goods/GT/Pretoria
[18:55] <Kilos> http://www.openafrica.org/participant/judys-sheepskin-products
[18:56] <Kilos> inetpro, ^^ look there
[18:57] <inetpro> thanks Kilos
[18:57] <Kilos> thank me if they have got near to you
[19:04] <inetpro> Kilos: sadly it won't help now
[19:04] <Kilos> only help now is a hot bath then bed
[19:08] <inetpro> as kids we used to just dunk our feet in salt water and ash
[19:08] <Kilos> lol
[19:09] <Kilos>  hot water helps if its only cold feet
[19:09] <Kilos> then once warm put socks
[19:09] <Kilos> i go bath and sleep now fellas. dont be up too late
[19:09] <Kilos> en lekker slaap
[19:09] <inetpro> Kilos: ek gaan ook slaap
[19:10] <Squirm> Sorry Friend but i don't have free codes to this model
[19:10] <Squirm> Regards
[19:10] <Squirm> Haicha
[19:10] <inetpro> good night
[19:10] <Squirm> :/
[19:10] <Kilos> more dan
[19:10] <Squirm> night
[19:10] <Kilos> oh my Squirm 
[19:11] <Kilos> keep googling . somewhere there will be a site that has then
[19:11] <Kilos> try the modem manufacturer as well
[19:12] <Kilos> look by the sim for make and model
[19:12] <Squirm> yeah
[19:12] <Squirm> will look around
[19:12] <Squirm> it's ZTE MF100
[19:13] <Kilos> Maaz, google how to unlock a ZTE MF100 usb modem
[19:13] <Maaz> Kilos: "TestBox2 -ZTE MF-Modem All Unlocker! [Archive] - GSM-Forum" http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/archive/t-812502.html :: "modem | How to unlock broadband modem: unlocked dongle, unlocked ..." http://telecomandinternet.com/2010/07/how-to-unlock-broadband-modem-unlocked-dongle-unlocked-code-and-unlocking-software/ :: "ZTE MF100 Unlock code" http://www.gsmlover.com/unlocking-codes-log-files-requists/17694-zte-mf100-unlock-code.html :: "zte
[19:13] <Kilos> good luck squirm. sleep tight
[19:13] <inetpro> yikes
[19:13] <Squirm> chhers Kilos and thanks
[19:14] <Kilos> yw
[19:14] <Squirm> cheers
[19:14] <inetpro> Kilos: I see on some site they even hase away the ghosts with feet in a salt water remedy
[19:14] <inetpro> s/hase/chase/
[19:14] <Kilos> lol
[19:15] <Kilos> i dont have ghost probs
[19:15] <Kilos> its the living that bug me
[19:15] <Kilos> night
[19:28] <Langjan> Hi to all the young boffins, are you well? 
[19:28] <nlsthzn_work> Hi Uncle Langjan 
[19:28] <nlsthzn_work> I am well and you?
[19:29]  * nlsthzn_work isn't a boffin but still being polite :p
[19:30] <Langjan> Good to hear, I'm also doing fine thanks. Just being polite already makes you a boffin...
[19:31] <nlsthzn_work> Hehe, OK :)
[19:31] <Langjan> My screen goes upside-down when I select extra visual effects on my Ubuntu 10.10. Any suggestions about what to do? Tried to reset to upside down but it reverts before I can sort out the inverted buttons. 
[19:43] <Langjan> nlsthzn, now I have to learn to type qazxswedc and I am not even getting nlsthzn right yet...hoekom maak julle dit so moeilik vir die oumense?
[19:47] <nlsthzn_work> Langjan: :) sorry was busy on another channel... but an easy way to do IRC is to type the first few letters than press tab ;)
[19:48] <Langjan> Excuse my ignorance - what is IRC?
[19:49] <nlsthzn_work> oh, we are currently chatting via IRC... Interet Relay Chat :)
[19:50] <Langjan> nlsthzn, wow! Thanks 
[19:50] <Langjan> nlsthzn, any ideas on the upside-down screen? 
[19:52] <nlsthzn_work> Langjan: upside down screen?
[19:53] <Langjan> yes, when I select extra visual effects, the screen goes upside down
[19:54] <nlsthzn_work> haha... that is weird (and annoying I am sure)
[19:55] <Langjan> very much so, I tried to get to the screen settings to see if selecting upside down mode will sort the problem, but perhaps that is not the right solution.
[20:00] <nlsthzn_work> To be honest I am not sure and very far from a Linux machine right now...
[20:01] <Langjan> OK thanks, it's not serious.
[20:46] <nlsthzn_work> Sokkies... that is an awesome name for IRC :D
[20:47] <Sokkies> Haha thanks. why do you say so? or are you being sarcastic
[20:49] <nlsthzn_work> No... it is... might be because I haven't been in SA for a few years and miss a bit of afrikaans but I like it :)
[20:52] <Sokkies> awesome.