[00:00] <TeknoCool> can't find the windows partition
[00:00] <evanton> let's say I want to find out if a certain app is in the repos by issuing "apt-cache search", but I don't have instant access to an ubuntu box. Are there free online web frontends for quering repos like this?
[00:01] <scorchgeek> TeknoCool: sometimes that happens if the ntfs partition is marked as 'dirty' due to improper shutdown...try rebooting into Windows, shutting down properly, and returning to Ubuntu
[00:01] <Jordan_U> dequeued: ActionParsnip: EFI allows you to set the default OS from within the booted system, and this default is a specific EFI executable rather than just a drive. grub-install, when using grub-efi and efibootmgr is available, sets grub (using the supplying distribution's name) as the default.
[00:01] <TeknoCool> uhm
[00:01] <TeknoCool> i'm pretty sure i shut down corectly
[00:01] <jawashin> evanton probably packages.ubuntu.com
[00:01] <scorchgeek> TeknoCool: it just randomly happened to me when I was dual-booting
[00:01] <TeknoCool> however i do get these bluescreens often when i start up windows
[00:02] <scorchgeek> it's worth a shot at least, isn't it?
[00:02] <gogeta> Jordan_U: arch has eft but it always failed on me
[00:02] <gogeta> Jordan_U: even in a vm
[00:02] <Jordan_U> dequeued: Note though that that is all it does as far as firmware is converned, only the default preference is saved. GRUB itself (and all the rest of Ubuntu) still reside only on the hard drive.
[00:02] <TeknoCool> also this reminds me of a unix based pasword recovery thing i had on a cd that also had problems with dirty drives
[00:03] <mib_mib> hi guys, i'm trying to run a ruby rake script using cron, however, i'm getting this error http://pastebin.com/23C0q8UN - but i don't know what permissions to set
[00:03] <evanton> jawashin: thank you
[00:04] <scorchgeek> mib_mib: can you run it when you're not using cron?
[00:07] <mib_mib> scorchgeek: yep, runs fine
[00:07] <mib_mib> scorchgeek: according to the error, seems like a permission issue, i just don't know on what files or folders - as cron usually runs as a different user right
[00:07] <scorchgeek> mib_mib: well it depends
[00:08] <scorchgeek> what user's crontab are you editing?
[00:08] <scorchgeek> are you using sudo crontab, or not?
[00:08] <mib_mib> i'm using that users crontab actually
[00:08] <mib_mib> should i be using sudo crontab?
[00:08] <scorchgeek> not unless you need root privileges
[00:09] <mib_mib> ok, i dont need root priveleges
[00:09] <scorchgeek> if you're using the same user's crontab as where you can successfully run it manually, I'm stuck
[00:09] <mib_mib> yeah....
[00:11] <Dogget> Need help with upgrading/installing 11.04. Can't boot into ubuntu, the screen turns all balck and the pc freezes.
[00:12] <mib_mib> it seems like it needs to create a directory that it can't
[00:12] <Dogget> sorry typo: black not balck
[00:13] <scorchgeek> Dogget: how far did you get in installing before that happened? and is this a fresh install or an upgrade?
[00:14] <JetJagurXP> usr13 If you can see this your suggestion worked.
[00:14] <JetJagurXP> I now have my gateway configured to forward network traffic and clients have Internet access.
[00:14] <JetJagurXP> Thanks for your help.
[00:15] <linuxuz3r_> anyone going to linux con
[00:15] <NeedHelp> Hi @needHelp
[00:15] <scorchgeek> NeedHelp: ...yes, well, what's the problem?
[00:15] <ThomasB2k> linuxuz3r_:  !off-topic
[00:15] <ThomasB2k> oops
[00:15] <NeedHelp> I am up to Install 10.04 lucid
[00:15] <Dogget> Well Scorch: If I try a fresh install using Wubi or booting from CD, it doesn't get far at all. I don't even get past the logo, in fact I don't get to the logo at all.
[00:16] <scorchgeek> as in, you can't boot from the CD at all?
[00:16] <scorchgeek> or you install and then can't boot
[00:16] <linuxuz3r_> !offtopic
[00:16] <Dogget> I am running 10.10 right now and doing the upgrade thingy works ok, all is upgraded until I reboot and boom pc freezes and I need a hard reboot
[00:17] <NeedHelp> i'm up to install 10.04 lucid into an existing partition where an ubuntu 11.11 resides ... do i have to install it and chose the 11.11 partition directly ? will this format it for me ??
[00:17] <scorchgeek> Dogget: can you get to the grub menu? you might try entering recovery mode
[00:17] <Dogget> That doesn't even work Scorch
[00:17] <Dogget> I have tried that too
[00:17] <sam_t> hey
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> NeedHelp: do you mean 11.10 or 11.04 ? 11.11 doesn't exist
[00:17] <sam_t> has anyone seen floatsaka?
[00:17] <linuxuz3r_> NeedHelp, yeah
[00:17] <NeedHelp> 10.04 * into 11.04 sorry
[00:18] <bazhang> sam_t, what does that have to do with ubuntu support
[00:18] <sam_t> well
[00:18] <sam_t> he used to idle here a lot
[00:18] <sam_t> and he went missing
[00:18] <szal> !seen floatsaka
[00:18] <linuxuz3r_> NeedHelp, you just need to format the 11.04 partition
[00:18] <bazhang> sam_t, actual support only here please
[00:18] <sam_t> where is ubuntu social
[00:18] <NeedHelp> from Windows ?? or while installing ?
[00:18] <szal> !ot | sam_t
[00:18] <bazhang> !ot > sam_t
[00:18] <linuxuz3r_> NeedHelp, why are you downgrading your linux installation
[00:18] <scorchgeek> Dogget: can you boot from the CD?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> NeedHelp: part of the instal is partitioning, if you choose custom partitioning you can tell Lucid to format the Linux partition (destroying all data) then install itself to the space. If you have a seperate /home partition, tell the installer to use it but NOT format it
[00:19] <torr760> what is the best type of IRC
[00:19] <th0r> torr760: one that works
[00:19] <sam_t> what
[00:19] <Dogget> The Cd boots up but then again same issue, black screen once Ubuntu kicks and pc is stuck
[00:19] <bazhang> torr760, irc what?
[00:19] <relaKKs> im getting the floating input not supported box on the login screen only
[00:19] <NeedHelp> Thanks @Action
[00:19] <scorchgeek> Dogget: so you can't even reach a live CD desktop?
[00:19] <torr760> like which IRC program is the best?
[00:19] <sam_t> for what?
[00:19] <bazhang> torr760, there is not best
[00:19] <relaKKs> it was on the desktop at first but I just changed the refresh rate and got rid of it
[00:19] <torr760> just basic uses
[00:20] <relaKKs> how can I change it for gdm?
[00:20] <NeedHelp> @scro.. : i'm downgrading cause i have a problem with 11.04 busybox :( :(
[00:20] <bazhang> !best > torr760
[00:20] <scorchgeek> torr760: if it's just for "basic uses" why do you even care? as long as you can connect and talk, any client is fine
[00:20] <Dogget> I have the option of starting 11.04 in normal mode or recovery but upon clicking on the options, after that nothing happens
[00:20] <scorchgeek> well, to get any further I think you're going to have to boot from the installation cd
[00:21] <scorchgeek> it's possible you might be able to salvage the installation, otherwise you'll have to copy your data and reinstall
[00:21] <ubuntu> is it possible to unformat an ext3/4 partition?
[00:21] <wildbat1> anyone know ant tools to edit/mount WIM file?
[00:21] <scorchgeek> what do you mean by "unformat?"
[00:21] <bazhang> ubuntu, unformat?
[00:21] <linuxuz3r_> ubuntu you can recover it
[00:21] <linuxuz3r_> in windows
[00:22] <ubuntu> my /home partition was accidentally formatted by xubuntu live cd installer
[00:22] <linuxuz3r_> if you deleted the partition then created a new one you cant
[00:22] <Dogget> Well Scorch one thing though> If I use my old 4850 Ati card all is fine, using my actual 6850 ati I have the problems
[00:22] <ubuntu> I didn't delete the partition
[00:22] <ubuntu> it was formatted
[00:22] <linuxuz3r_> oh
[00:22] <scorchgeek> well, I think there are tools that can recover from that
[00:22] <scorchgeek> but I don't know anything about the process
[00:22] <ubuntu> I'm pretty sure I didn't check the format checkbox
[00:22] <relaKKs> anyone know how to adjust monitor settings for gdm?
[00:22] <linuxuz3r_> ubuntu i dont think you can
[00:23] <th0r> ubuntu: after you figure out how to unformat a partition, can you work on uncrashing a car?
[00:23] <ubuntu> so... what are my options then?
[00:23] <scorchgeek> ubuntu: the general principle is that the data is still (partly) there on disk, but none of the usual filesystem tools can access it anymore
[00:23] <spo0kz> In terminal whats the difference between  ./ and ~/
[00:23] <scorchgeek> spo0kz: . is current directory, ~ is home directory
[00:24] <dv310p3r> How can I upgrade firefox from 5.0 to 5.01?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> spo0kz: ./ is the current folder
[00:24] <spo0kz> scorchgeek: cool tnx m8
[00:24] <ubuntu> scorchgeek, so what are my options? get a big pile of unnamed files with photorec?
[00:24] <rauce> I've just installed ubuntu on my thinkpad t500, version 10.10 because by friend had the cd already. I wiped the drive and did a fresh installation after a backup. the live cd boots fine (that's what I'm using now) but i can't seem to boot from my HDD, no grub or anything just a flashing cursor.... any help?
[00:24] <seanmc98> why does ubuntu not have the normal graphical interface when installed inside a virtual box as opposed to a normal install?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> spo0kz: ~/ is the shorthand for $HOME or /home/$USER
[00:24] <Dogget> @scorchgeek: it seems like the graphic card is creating some issues with my 11.04 install. Anybody using a 6850 here and having the same problem?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> seanmc98: it does, the installed OS will be the same
[00:24] <scorchgeek> ubuntu: try googling around for ext3 data recovery formatted partition or something, I've heard of a few tools that can potentially recover
[00:25] <RodneyJarvis> Is there a way when moving data for instance, in the cli, to get a progress bar?
[00:25] <scorchgeek> ubuntu: past that, a data recovery specialist can fix it
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> seanmc98: did you install the guest additions?
[00:25] <scorchgeek> ubuntu: or you can restore from backup, but I'm assuming you don't have a valid backup if you're asking about this
[00:25] <seanmc98> ActionParsnip i know that but its not the same graphic/ UI look
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> RodneyJarvis: I've seen some scripts for it
[00:25] <ubuntu> scorchgeek, I have an old one... :-(
[00:25] <torr760> how do u use  proxy in xcat
[00:25] <torr760> *xchat
[00:25] <Jordan_U> RodneyJarvis: rsync --progress
[00:25] <RodneyJarvis> ActionParsnip: Oh yeah...? Do you .... Ahhh Jordan_U Thanks...
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> RodneyJarvis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316707
[00:26] <seanmc98> ActionParsnip i have no clue if i did all i did was create it using the iso
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> seanmc98: get updated, see if it helps
[00:26] <Jordan_U> RodneyJarvis: You're welcome.
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> seanmc98: the guest additions are installable in the menus in the virtualbox window: http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers/2008/virtualbox-install-guest-additions.jpg
[00:27] <rauce> anybody? fresh install, 10.10, thinkpad t500, no GRUB, won't boot and just shows a flashing cursor
[00:28] <Dogget> @rauce: I was just reading that, it might help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742071
[00:28] <RodneyJarvis> ActionParsnip: Sorry could you write that link again, I'm in Irssi, now i've opened xchat, so I can see it in the GUI.
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> RodneyJarvis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316707
[00:29] <RodneyJarvis> ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[00:31] <G00053> is there a way to put gcc and kernel headers on my machine manually so upon fresh install I don't have to drag my box all the way to my router to be able to "make" my wireless drivers .
[00:32] <Dogget> I think the only solution for me left is to try the alternate install, with the text based install. Anybody knows how I can do  from 10.10 without having to kiss my 10.10 install good-bye?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: from 10.10 to what?
[00:32] <Dogget> 11.04
[00:33] <Dogget> I have tried the normal upgrade root, no success
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: http://pastebin.com/xKNPUHb6    my method
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> G00053: are they not on the install CD?
[00:36] <Dogget> @Action is this the text based install or graphical one?
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Dogget: What happens when you try to boot into recovery mode?
[00:37] <RodneyJarvis> Do large file transfers happen to take infinitely longer in the cli than gui?
[00:37] <Jordan_U> RodneyJarvis: No.
[00:37] <rhin0> anyone know why on 10.04 on a touchpad the mouse pointer will sometimes "flick away" fromt he object you want it to click on -
[00:37] <Dogget> Same as normal install, I click install ubuntu then black screen after that and the pc hangs
[00:37] <fishscene> touchpad sensitivity?
[00:37] <Dogget> Same issue if I perform a normal upgrade as well
[00:37] <RodneyJarvis> Jordan_U: Thanks, you know when you start something new & wish you hadn't...?
[00:37] <G00053> ActionParsnip: you know what , maybe i'm confusing ubuntu with some of the other flavours i've installed
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: its the server upgrade method, just more explained. It will upgrade your desktop OS too
[00:38] <owner_> hello folks...need help installing gnome on red hat linux but having problems
[00:38] <fishscene> When you "click" or "tap" the touchpad, it changes the imprint and if the sensitivity is too high, it might think you're trying to move the mouse.
[00:38] <fishscene> owner_: Sounds like a redhat question
[00:38] <Dogget> What is the risk of screwing my actual 10.10 Action?
[00:38] <Dogget> of it screwing sorry
[00:38] <IdleOne> owner_: try #redhat
[00:39] <urlin2u> Dogget, your best insurance is a back up of it a image.
[00:39] <owner_> thanks
[00:39] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: It appears the upgrade process went fine, there is just a problem with 11.04 and his graphics card (or something else that is causing the screen to go black).
[00:39] <rhin0> ok
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: ahhhhhh
[00:40] <rhin0> ty fishscene
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: are you on 10.10 or 11.04 presently?
[00:40] <Dogget> Well if I was on 11.04 I wouldn't try to upgrade to 11.04 :-)
[00:40] <Jordan_U> Dogget: What happens when you try to boot into recovery mode (I don't know if your earlier answer was in response to this question, but "recovery mode" is *not* and option of the installer).
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: then my method will upgrade you in a terminal
[00:41] <Dogget> 10.10 my friend is what I am on at the moment
[00:41] <owner_> its empty...was wondering if anyone knows how to start a gnome after installing it on redhat
[00:41] <Dogget> Basically if I put my 4850 ati card, I have no issues. If I put my 6850 back in I encounter the install issues
[00:41] <everman> join #rave and type !free_everman for free boobies!!!
[00:42] <everman> join #rave and type !free_everman for free boobies!!!
[00:42] <FloodBot1> everman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:42] <Dogget> so I need to open an editor and put your method in there is that right?
[00:43] <NeedHelp> Hey Guyys :( :( No partition is appearing from the installation menu !!!
[00:44] <NeedHelp> I can See hard drives but no parition ::
[00:44] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: What version of Ubuntu are you using? What is the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> NeedHelp: run:  sudo fdisk -l    do you see it ok?
[00:44] <NeedHelp> but when i make udisk -l i see they are their
[00:45] <NeedHelp> yeap i see :)
[00:45] <NeedHelp> all partitions
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: put the ok card in, unintsll the ATi driver then put the 'bad' card in
[00:45] <NeedHelp> but when i start the install just the hard drives
[00:45] <NeedHelp> i can only create new partition or use the entire disk
[00:45] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: I specifically would like to see the output of "sudo parted -l" (use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ).
[00:46] <Dogget> Been there, done that Action
[00:46] <Dogget> Nothing, same issues
[00:46] <NeedHelp> Okis U still here bro i need to Goo and run the Live CD again ;)?
[00:49] <_aaron_> what packages are included on the ubuntu server cd, only reason why i'm asking here is no one has answered me in #ubuntu-server
[00:49] <jstoone> Is it possible that my Hosting Service (godaddy.com) makes my php scripts non-SQLi able?
[00:50] <fishscene> _aaron: I do believe "LAMP" is included as well as some kind of cloud-service
[00:50] <_aaron_> fishscene, i Need dhcp samba server and cups
[00:51] <Dogget> Well I fear that if I follow your method, the same issue will occur Action :-(
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: could use a boot option to blacklist the driver
[00:52] <welly> Hi chaps. Looking at installing webmin on my ubuntu 10.04 server. We already have apache set up on that server and it's configured as we require. I'm concerned that installing webmin might mess with our apache set up. Does anyone know if that is the case or if webmin can leave apache well alone?
[00:53] <rww> !webmin
[00:53] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:53] <Dogget> It is very starnge though, because when I boot into 10.10 I still need to install the ati driver. I do but using the one directly from Ati so I am running the 11.7 drivers and all is fine.
[00:53] <Dogget> "could use a boot option to blacklist the driver" how can you do that Action?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: modulename.blacklist=1    you may be able to find a boot option to force vesa driver use
[00:58] <Dogget> Sorry at lose here Action, where do I have to go to try that option?
[01:00] <george__> OK i need some guidance here, my GF's inspiron 14r is having wifi issues and i need answers plus google aint working
[01:00] <george__> the chipset is BCM4313 and it only connected to my house
[01:00] <edbian> george__: can you describe the issues?
[01:00] <edbian> george__: I can get that chipset to work.
[01:00] <george__> ok lets see
[01:01] <NeedHelp> Still Here /q Jordan_U  ???
[01:01] <MrDave> im going to insall fglxr. Whats the command to restore the default video at shell prompt if driver package install fails?
[01:01] <george__> during the install it worked
[01:01] <edbian> george__: k...  Now it doesn't?
[01:01] <george__> but after kernel update it stopped
[01:01] <george__> it will refuse to connect now after installing the wl driver
[01:02] <george__> cause my chipset is 4312
[01:02] <edbian> george__: you said it was 4313
[01:02] <george__> my netbook's chipset is bcm4313
[01:03] <george__> her laptop's is bcm4313
[01:03] <edbian> george__: ....  re-read that
[01:03] <george__> no wait, my chipset is bcm4312, sorry
[01:03] <george__> im just nervous sorry
[01:04] <edbian> george__: don't be nervous :)
[01:04] <edbian> george__: so you have a 4312 and she has a 4313. Which are we trying to fix?
[01:04] <george__> i want my gf to expirience open source goodness :)
[01:04] <george__> im trying to fix 4313
[01:05] <edbian> george__: the 4312 should use b43 (IDK what you're actually using and I don't much care).  Is the machine with 4313 (the gf machine) online some other way?
[01:05] <MrDave> im going to insall fglxr. Whats the command to restore the default video at shell prompt if driver package install fails?
[01:06] <george__> im using wl, didnt know b43 was compatible with 4312
[01:07] <NeedHelp> Ok then when i try to install lucid in 11.04 partition and  when i run the Live Cd i can't see the partitions !! i made an  udisks -l ( i can see all )  then parted -l and it says :  Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[01:07] <edbian> george__: yes,  but wl is trying to replace it I think for some reason
[01:07] <NeedHelp> and Error: Can't have overlapping partitions.
[01:07] <edbian> george__: wl (or STA) is supporting all the newer cards.  Anyway, is her machine online via some other method?
[01:07] <NeedHelp> and Error: /dev/sr0: unrecognised disk label
[01:07] <george__> so it had a working driver before huh?
[01:07] <kwixson> Trying to install OpenSCAD and when I open the app is tells me I don't have OpenGL 2.0 installed.
[01:08] <edbian> george__: b43
[01:08] <PythonSnake> Hi
[01:08] <PythonSnake> I need a free root shell
[01:08] <Nubi1Kenobi> need some help with fslint
[01:08] <PythonSnake> anyone can help me ? :(
[01:08] <IdleOne> !ot | PythonSnake
[01:08] <PythonSnake> Ok
[01:08] <liyafei> I can't
[01:08] <kwixson> Should OpenGL 2.0 already be installed with the most recent version of Ubuntu, or will I have to get it?
[01:09] <szal> liyafei: you can't what?
[01:09] <kwixson> If I have to get OpenGL 2.0, how?
[01:09] <tensorpudding> you'll have to install an opengl implementation
[01:09] <NeedHelp> Ok then when i try to install lucid in 11.04 partition and  when i run the Live Cd i can't see the partitions !! i made an  udisks -l ( i can see all )  then parted -l and it says :  Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[01:09] <tensorpudding> there's a free one
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> pythonirc101: sudo -i   will give a root shell
[01:09] <tensorpudding> i think, anyway
[01:09] <tensorpudding> that it's not included
[01:10] <tensorpudding> the opengl packages have names like libgl
[01:10] <MrDave> how can i restore my X config/video driver with terminal?
[01:10] <MrDave> default
[01:10] <george__> edbian: well tomorrow i guess i can see if it works with b43
[01:10] <NeedHelp> Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[01:10] <firman> hi
[01:10] <NeedHelp> Ok then when i try to install lucid in 11.04 partition and  when i run the Live Cd i can't see the partitions !! i made an  udisks -l ( i can see all )  then parted -l and it says :  Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[01:10] <MrDave> ActionParsnip, ?
[01:10] <edbian> george__: I'm back
[01:11] <george__> edbian: hopefully it will work but i have to purge the bcmwl-kernel-source package first
[01:11] <edbian> george__: wl and sta are the same thing.  don't purge that package  (why do you want to?)
[01:11] <tensorpudding> they're for the mesa opengl implementation
[01:11] <tensorpudding> opengl is just a standard, mesa is the actual software
[01:11] <kwixson> tensorpudding: so I should search for mesa in the software centre?
[01:11] <tensorpudding> it has drivers for DRI (direct rendering) and GLX for integration with X
[01:12] <george__> edbian: i know its the same :b i just want to know if with replacing wl with b43 could work
[01:12] <tensorpudding> what is it you want to do?
[01:12] <ferz> hallo ubuntu'ers
[01:12] <george__> ferz: hello :)
[01:12] <edbian> george__: b43 does not work on bcm4313
[01:12] <tensorpudding> if you just want gl.h to compile, you probably want libgl1-mesa-dev, not sure about that
[01:12] <kwixson> tensorpudding: I want OpenSCAD to work properly
[01:12] <edbian> george__: it does work on bcm4312 though
[01:12] <george__> edbian: oooh :(
[01:13] <tensorpudding> kwixson: do you have instructions for openscad?
[01:13] <george__> edbian: i hate broadcom >.<
[01:13] <NeedHelp> Ok then when i try to install lucid in 11.04 partition and  when i run the Live Cd i can't see the partitions !! i made an  udisks -l ( i can see all )  then parted -l and it says :  Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[01:13] <aaas> is there a way to turn off some of the effects in unity: maybe something like when moving a window there will be an outline rather than the entire window?
[01:13] <kwixson> I followed the instructions on the OpenSCAD web site for installing the app.
[01:13] <torr760> can anyone tell me something cool to hack
[01:14] <edbian> aaas: yes, ccsm  (compizconfig-settings-manager)
[01:14] <edbian> torr760: an xbox 360
[01:14] <Dogget> @torr you can start by hacking yourself see how it works :-)
[01:14] <aaas> ediban: but does that enable compiz, because I don't want compiz, or is compiz already enabled?
[01:14] <torr760> i dont have one
[01:14] <tensorpudding> kwixson: there is an ubuntu PPA
[01:14] <torr760> dogget: what do u mean myself?
[01:14] <tensorpudding> kwixson: it works for lucid, it might work for natty (maybe)
[01:15] <kwixson> tensorpudding: PPA?
[01:15] <NeedHelp> Ok then when i try to install lucid in 11.04 partition and  when i run the Live Cd i can't see the partitions !! i made an  udisks -l ( i can see all )  then parted -l and it says :  Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[01:15] <tensorpudding> !ppa | kwixson
[01:15] <tensorpudding> kwixson: they have it available for maverick/natty
[01:15] <tensorpudding> kwixson: you need to go to software sources, and add the PPA
[01:15] <edbian> aaas: compiz is part of unity  (it's already enabled)
[01:15] <edbian> aaas: You spelled my name wrong
[01:16] <ferz> this is my first irssi :-))
[01:16] <tensorpudding> kwixson: follow the instructions here: https://launchpad.net/~chrysn/+archive/openscad
[01:16] <kwixson> tensorpudding: Okay. I'm appreciating the help, but not sure what you're telling me.
[01:16] <edbian> ferz: yay
[01:16] <aaas> edbian: sorry and thanks
[01:16] <NeedHelp> Pff xD None can solve my problem :( :(: (
[01:16] <kwixson> I'm going to that link and following the directions now. Thank you.
[01:16] <tensorpudding> kwixson: a PPA is like the repositories that ubuntu has, but it's not official; it's maintained by some helpful guy who has compiled software for you, and once you add the ppa, you can just click-install as you normally would for installing software in the USC
[01:17] <edbian> aaas: sure :)  be warned, when you install ccsm it will erase all the settings (that unity made) and you'll have to start turning things on just to get back to normal
[01:17] <aaas> edbian: im trying to disable some things to run under vnc, so i dont mind having some things erased ;)
[01:17] <tensorpudding> kwixson: if you follow the link, and do the instructions, it'll add a new source in the software center, then you just look for openscad in that source and install it
[01:17] <NeedHelp> éééhhh éééhhh I'm cryiin :( :( :(
[01:18] <edbian> aaas: :)  yay!
[01:18] <volkov_> ubuntu netbook edition can't recongize my wifi card
[01:19] <tensorpudding> kwixson: just open the software center, open the Edit menu and click on Software Sources, go to Other Software tab, and Add a new source. The APT line will be "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chrysn/openscad/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main" (no quotes), where you put natty/maverick in the YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE as needed
[01:20] <volkov_> ubuntu netbook edition can't recongize my wifi card
[01:20] <NeedHelp> @volkov None recognize me :(
[01:20] <edbian> volkov_: There is no netbook edition anymore.  What version are you running?
[01:20] <edbian> NeedHelp: needhelp with wifi?
[01:20] <volkov_> edbian, 10.10
[01:21] <NeedHelp> Nop Ok then when i try to install lucid in 11.04 partition and  when i run the Live Cd i can't see the partitions !! i made an  udisks -l ( i can see all )  then parted -l and it says :  Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk
[01:21] <edbian> volkov_: a-ha  what chipset do you have?
[01:21] <volkov_> intetl atom
[01:21] <edbian> volkov_: what wifi chipset do you have?
[01:21] <scorchgeek> NeedHelp: ah, sounds like you created an ext4 drive
[01:21] <george__> edbian: what about the open source brcm80211 driver, will that one work?
[01:21] <scorchgeek> I think lucid only supports ext3 formatted partitions
[01:21] <volkov_> edbian, i don know
[01:22] <scorchgeek> NeedHelp: unfortunately I don't know of any way to fix it other than deleting the partition and recreating it
[01:22] <edbian> george__: I think the wl / sta driver should be working for you.  (for bcm4313) do you have the laptop online via some other method (for the 3rd time)
[01:22] <edbian> volkov_: Is this machine online via some other method?
[01:22] <volkov_> edbian, no i'm on another machine
[01:22] <NeedHelp> when creating a partition from the whole hard drive which is recognized as empty will this erase it and damage it ?
[01:22] <george__> edbian: oh sorry, not it isnt online
[01:23] <edbian> volkov_: run sudo lspci | grep Network    and tell me what number the wifi card is listed as
[01:23] <george__> edbian: she doesnt have ethernet access
[01:23] <edbian> george__: run dmesg and look near the bottom, do you see anything related to the wifi card?
[01:23] <george__> if only i can ssh into her machine...
[01:23] <volkov_> edbian, wait plz
[01:24] <scorchgeek> NeedHelp: yes, if you delete the partition all data on it will be erased
[01:24] <edbian> george__: I think you need to install the top 3 packages listed here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bcm4313&searchon=all&suite=natty&section=all   and make sure all other drivers are removed
[01:24] <scorchgeek> NeedHelp: so if you need data off that partition, back it up first
[01:24] <edbian> volkov_: waiting...
[01:24] <george__> got it
[01:24] <edbian> george__: I don't think you'll be able to fix this without getting online some other way
[01:24] <NeedHelp> scrock : there's no partition recognized i want to create a new partition for lucid but i don't want other windows/linux partitons to be hurt
[01:25] <n-iCe> which one would be my webcam since is not being recognized by debian weezing http://pastebin.com/3sXmDaaV thanks
[01:25] <volkov_> edbian, 07:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd Device 8176 (rev 01)
[01:26] <hexacode> hey you guys...something wierd just happened...i walked up to my laptop (ubuntu 10.04 lts) and i just clicked on one of my open terminals and then the gnome panel just changed into what i can best describe as something resembling a windows 98 panel...wtf is that about?
[01:26] <milamber> edbian: could they use aptoncd?
[01:27] <edbian> milamber: I suppose
[01:27] <edbian> milamber: They could also download the packages from the site, and put them on a jump drive.  My point is that this makes it much harder to get the card up
[01:27] <edbian> hexacode: the theme bugged out
[01:27] <scorchgeek> hexacode: that happens to me occasionally, I just restart the X server when it happens
[01:27] <milamber> edbian: no arguments here :)
[01:28] <volkov_> edbian, 07:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd Device 8176 (rev 01)
[01:28] <edbian> volkov_: I think that's your wired card.  was anything else listed?
[01:28] <aaas> where does vnc get its resolution list?  I max out at 1366x768 and I would like to go bigger?
[01:28] <edbian> milamber: :)
[01:28] <kwixson> tensorpudding: That's nifty with getting OpenSCAD into the software centre
[01:28] <scorchgeek> hexacode: just try logging out and in again
[01:28] <volkov_> edbian, no
[01:28] <NeedHelp> when creating a partition from the whole hard drive which is recognized as empty will this erase it and damage it ?
[01:28] <edbian> volkov_: mmm, not a good sign.
[01:28] <scorchgeek> there are probably less annoying ways to fix it, but
[01:28] <scorchgeek> NeedHelp: yes, if there's anything on the drive that's still accessible it'll become inaccessible
[01:28] <edbian> volkov_: sudo lspci | grep Wireless
[01:28] <scorchgeek> mainrain: correct
[01:28] <milamber> NeedHelp: can you be more specific with your question? if the question is will the drive be destroyed, the answer is no.
[01:28] <edbian> volkov_: or just sudo lspci and read the whole thing
[01:29] <scorchgeek> mainrain: erm sorry, typed into the wrong window
[01:29] <volkov_> edbian, wait...
[01:29] <kwixson> tensorBut I'm still getting a warning when I open the app. It says "Warning: no support for OpenGL 2.0 found!
[01:29] <milamber> milamber: and what do you mean by the drive is empty?
[01:29] <edbian> volkov_: waiting...
[01:29] <n-iCe> which one would be my webcam since is not being recognized by debian weezing http://pastebin.com/3sXmDaaV thanks
[01:29] <kwixson> ...please check if OpenGL 2.0 drivers are available for your system.
[01:29] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: I asked you to pastebin the exact output, and I did not ask you to PM me. You have an invalid partition table and this needs to be fixed before you install Ubuntu.
[01:29] <milamber> NeedHelp: and what do you mean by empty drive?*
[01:30] <volkov_> edbian, what shall i write from this long list
[01:30] <edbian> volkov_: Look for the wifi card
[01:31] <volkov_> edbian, there is no wifi ward, only ethernet controller and network controller
[01:31] <NeedHelp> Sorry Bro ;) even if i can see the table makin fdisk -l
[01:31] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: The fact that udisks accepts invalid partition tables does not change the fact that things like overlapping partitions can cause *SEVERE DATA LOSS* even if you don't install Ubuntu and thus this needs to be fixed whatever you do.
[01:31] <NeedHelp> Okis ;) Thanks Hard To Fix the table ?
[01:32] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: Fixparts may be able to help: http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[01:32] <edbian> volkov_: oh, what was network controller again?
[01:32] <edbian> volkov_: maybe that is it
[01:32] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: Unfortunately I need to leave now.
[01:32] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: Good luck.
[01:32] <NeedHelp> Okis Take Care ;)
[01:33] <NeedHelp> 10x ;)
[01:33] <kwixson> So I guess what I need is to install the OpenGL drivers?
[01:33] <steven_> tall
[01:33] <aaas> anyone know how to add resolutions to x11vnc
[01:33] <steven_> anyone know how to install minecraft sever on linux
[01:33] <volkov_> edbian, 07:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd Device 8176 (rev 01)
[01:34] <volkov_> edbian, the same
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> steven_: http://www.yourwarrantyisvoid.com/2011/01/09/installing-minecraft-server-in-ubuntu-server/
[01:34] <maahes> is there a way to get ubuntu to launch rtorrent in a shell when I click a torrent? I tried setting /usr/bin/urxvt -e rtorrent but that didn't work
[01:34] <edbian> volkov_: yes, thank you.  sudo rfkill list    (is anything blocked??)
[01:35] <n-iCe> which one would be my webcam since is not being recognized by debian weezing http://pastebin.com/3sXmDaaV thanks
[01:35] <zulax> i dont get an ip on my new ubuntu server
[01:36] <volkov_> edbian, 0: dell-wifi: wireless LAN
[01:36] <zulax> etc/network/interface says auto eth0 ;iface eth0 inet dhcp
[01:36] <bazhang> n-iCe, you're crossposting in #debian , this is ubuntu support only
[01:36] <zulax> and i had internet working while installing it
[01:36] <zulax> now i dont get an ip
[01:36] <edbian> volkov_: is it blocked?  (yes or no) you need to read the output and think, not just tell me the first line of output
[01:36] <n-iCe> bazhang: as I said Debian is not recognizing it I am in Ubuntu and is the same
[01:37] <bazhang> n-iCe, you're asking about debian, this is the wrong place for it, please do not ask further
[01:37] <volkov_> edbian, soft blocked : no
[01:37] <volkov_> edbian, hard blocked : no
[01:37] <edbian> volkov_: hard blocked?   (blocked at all?)
[01:37] <edbian> volkov_: alright then :)
[01:37] <edbian> volkov_: sudo iwlist scan     (does this list wifi networks?)
[01:37] <Serenity5> how do i unassign the video printscreen key in ubuntu ( alt+printscreen+k ? )
[01:37] <kwixson> So are the OpenGL 2.0 drivers installed w/ Ubuntu if your hardware is capable?
[01:38] <volkov_> edbian, lo        Interface doesnt support scannig
[01:39] <edbian> volkov_: don't you even think about pasting the whole output mister!
[01:39] <Serenity5> in fact why is the video feature undocumented on alt + printscreen + k
[01:39] <volkov_> edbian, eth0        Interface doesnt support scannig
[01:39] <Serenity5> i dont see it anywhere on the docs
[01:39] <zulax> i can see Ethernet in lspci
[01:39] <volkov_> edbian, i'm connected on another machine
[01:39] <volkov_> edbian, i told about that
[01:40] <edbian> volkov_: sure, I want you to read the output and answer a yes or no question here in the channel.
[01:40] <edbian> volkov_: I said DON'T copy / paste the output
[01:40] <edbian> volkov_: now, does the output include wifi networks?
[01:40] <Serenity5> any devs here? why is the video feature undocumented on alt + printscreen + k
[01:40] <tzhuang> hellow, anyone here use the messenger QQ?
[01:41] <tzhuang> im trying to get it to work with Empathy, but can't seem to find anything
[01:41] <volkov_> edbian, no
[01:41] <edbian> volkov_: what does wlan0 say?  network down?
[01:41] <Serenity5> @ devs/documenters: why is the video feature undocumented on alt + printscreen + k
[01:41] <zulax> restarting the networking gives me at the end no dhcpoffers received
[01:42] <volkov_> edbian, there is no wlan0
[01:42] <zulax> but that hard wire works well on my other box
[01:42] <IdleOne> Serenity5: please stop. you know that key combo logs the user out.
[01:43] <cypha> anyone on a lenovo?
[01:43] <edbian> volkov_: sudo lspci -k     (what drivers / modules are listed under the (realtek) wifi card?
[01:43] <bazhang> cypha, whats the actual question
[01:44] <cypha> bazhang: can't get scrolling to work
[01:44] <cypha> for my trackpad or trackpoint
[01:45] <mastaofdisasta> hey guys, I'm really starting to dislike 11.04
[01:45] <mastaofdisasta> out of nowhere it is not booting
[01:45] <mastaofdisasta> it doesn't get further than grub
[01:46] <mastaofdisasta> it stopped booting out of nowhere
[01:46] <volkov_> edbian, there is no kenrel modules under realtek but subsystem: Dell Device 9198
[01:46] <mastaofdisasta> can someone help me get 11.04 to boot?
[01:46] <cypha> bazhang: i edited xorg.conf, as detailed by a post on ubuntu.com/forum
[01:47] <cypha> i can't find the post now, but it didn't work
[01:47] <edbian> volkov_: hang on
[01:48] <funkyHat> zulax: are you sure the other computer is using dhcp to get its ip address?
[01:48] <zulax> funkyHat, interfaces has auto eth0;iface eth0 inet dhcp and its connected to a hub from fouter
[01:49] <edbian> volkov_: sudo modprobe rtl8192CE      or sudo modprobe rtl8176       or sudo modprobe r8192ce_pci   I'm not really sure
[01:49] <Vidalia> guessing; sudo modprobe rtl8176
[01:50] <funkyHat> zulax: and the server is connected up exactly the same way?
[01:50] <zulax> yes, and i had an ip while installing the server
[01:50] <mastaofdisasta> I don't even know where to start, the recovery mode is not booting either
[01:50] <h00k> zulax: consider not using a hub, if you can help it :(
[01:51] <zulax> h00k, i will try but it has always worked for me before
[01:51] <volkov_> edbian, all 3 not found
[01:51] <zulax> but this one now
[01:51] <zulax> it says noipoffers
[01:51] <bazhang> zulax, you just stated you disabled dhcp
[01:51] <h00k> zulax: just because hubs aren't very efficient, anyway. Do you have a link-light on?
[01:52] <zulax> h00k, yes
[01:52] <zulax> bazhang, should i have enabled dhcp on install?
[01:52] <cypha> anyone on lenovo that has gotten scrolling working?
[01:52] <h00k> zulax: okay, so you have layer 1. yeah, enable dhcp on that interface
[01:52] <bazhang> zulax, you are still crossposting, please don't
[01:52] <zulax> ok
[01:52] <edbian> volkov_: :/
[01:53] <edbian> volkov_: i have to research
[01:53] <volkov_> edbian, what do you think about installing another version of ubuntu not the netbook one
[01:53] <edbian> volkov_: worth a shot
[01:53] <zulax> h00k, if i still want my router to server as the dhcp server, i souldnt install dhcp on the ubuntu server, correct?
[01:54] <h00k> zulax: you want to have your server not serving dhcp, correct. You do want that network interface to be *using* dhcp to pick up an address
[01:54] <zulax> h00k, yes
[01:55] <volkov_> edbian, thanks for your time, i'll try
[01:55] <h00k> zulax: just for kicks, throw a different device on that network cable, see if it picks up DHCP
[01:56] <edbian> volkov_: researching...
[01:56] <mastaofdisasta> so, my laptop has been working fine with ubuntu / windows 7 dual boot.  now out of nowhere linux stopped booting.  I get as far as grub.  I push enter to choose linux as the OS.  then I get a blinking cursor but it stays there
[01:56] <mickeythemeow> on ubuntu 11.04 once you select "ubuntu classic" does it stay that way every time you log in ?
[01:57] <d1g1ta1> Can anyone recommend a faster alternative to dd that will copy entire ext3 & ntfs partitions including deleted files and whitespace?
[01:57] <edbian> volkov_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1686476
[01:59] <volkov_> edbian, i'll see
[01:59] <mastaofdisasta> it's sad to see that my windows 7 is booting up normally and that's what i'm using to get on this irc channel
[02:00] <maheanuu> Is there a IRC chat for Ubuntu Skype?
[02:00] <xangua> maheanuu: skype has  forums
[02:01] <maheanuu> On IRC
[02:01] <mickeythemeow> why my ui change to from black color to grey color suddenly ?
[02:01] <Polah> Good morning
[02:01] <propman> washed out penguins
[02:02] <dddbmt> Hi guys, I'm trying to search through all files in a directory in order to see if any of them contains a specific string. I've tried "grep <string> /path/*" but no luck.
[02:02] <xangua> maheanuu: ask on skype forum¿
[02:02] <hexacode> hey you guys...something wierd just happened...i walked up to my laptop (ubuntu 10.04 lts) and i just clicked on one of my open terminals and then the gnome panel just changed into what i can best describe as something resembling a windows 98 panel...wtf is that about?
[02:03] <xangua> !language | hexacode
[02:03] <hexacode> ok
[02:03] <Jim455R> guys anyone in here can help me ?
[02:03] <xangua> hexacode: opened already Appearence setting¿
[02:03] <xangua> settings*
[02:03] <Bonz> wow lots of people
[02:03] <hexacode> xangua i havent but ill look
[02:04] <Bonz> anyone have any hints as to why the ubuntu distupgrade does not work within the update manager
[02:04] <xangua> Jim455R: if you don't describe your problem, no one can
[02:04] <mastaofdisasta> so, my laptop has been working fine with ubuntu / windows 7 dual boot.  now out of nowhere linux stopped booting.  I get as far as grub.  I push enter to choose linux as the OS.  then I get a blinking cursor but it stays there
[02:04] <DeviceZer0> hello all. Is there a better app then cheese to capture from my webcam? Cheese is not capturing from my cam properly. IT records like 1 frame then craps out
[02:04] <hexacode> xangua it was the clearlooks theme that i saw...but how on earth does it just switch to that when i click on a terminal?  i wonder if someones in my computer
[02:04] <dddbmt> Jim455R: Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[02:05] <Jim455R> in the ubuntu network proxy preferences
[02:05] <Polah> dddbmt: find -name "*<string>*"
[02:05] <Jim455R> ignored hosts
[02:05] <Jim455R> i don't understand how it works
[02:05] <dddbmt> Polah, that'll just search for the string in filename? I want to search inside file.
[02:05] <Jim455R> why localhost is added to ignore lst?
[02:05] <Jim455R> how can i add an ip with a port there
[02:06] <Jim455R> if i want for e.g to ignore a specific dns server with port 53
[02:06] <Jim455R> how do i type it there?
[02:07] <Polah> dddbmt: Oh, I see. Someone else could probably help you better then.
[02:08] <_aaron_> how to restart a service via terminal
[02:08] <zykotick9> Bonz, do you know what distupgrade is?  It doesn't upgrade you to a new release.  What isn't working?  UpdateManager does a dist-upgrade by default when run.
[02:08] <dddbmt> Polah, I'll try ask in #debian. Thanks for your time though!
[02:08] <zykotick9> _aaron_, "sudo service FOO restart/start/stop"
[02:09] <_aaron_> zykotick9, thanks will try
[02:10] <kiichiro> hey I have a very old flash drive that doesn't even get recognized until hours if that until ubuntu will recognize it, I believe it to be usb 1.0 is there any way to make it automount faster or for me to go into terminal and tell it to look for usb 1.0 since I believe it only looks for 2.0+
[02:10] <Bonz> zykotick9: it pops up a window at top saying 10.10 is available which i select and pops up another window with an update button, but on selecting update it closes window and reverts back to previous dialogue doing nudduh
[02:11] <Beav3r> I am having a problem with getting a ndiswapper-installed pci wireless adapter to work. In nm-list it's showing up correctly after installing ndiswapper now but in the windicator the wifi isn't showing up. It's a linksys WDM300n
[02:11] <zykotick9> Bonz, ok that i can't assist you with.  It was a terminology problem however, that is NOT a dist-upgrade.
[02:11] <Bonz> i have done upgrades in the past when i was using debian potato, woody, sid, etc but do not want to trash the system by not doing it the ubuntu way
[02:11] <zykotick9> dddbmt, "grep -R <STRING> /path"
[02:13] <zykotick9> Bonz, FYI debian updates go much better then ubuntu ones.  Best of luck, I never recommend people upgrade Ubuntus - fresh install is usually easier.
[02:13] <dddbmt> zykotick9, I got it going with "grep <string> /path". thanks though!
[02:13] <zykotick9> dddbmt, you need -R or -r for recursive
[02:14] <Bonz> zykotick9: so they gui thing was informational value only with no dist-upgrade support available i am guessing
[02:14] <dddbmt> zykotick9, yup. But I only needed to search in one dir. no sub-dirs.
[02:14] <zykotick9> Bonz, dist-upgrade means "install new packages" not "update to new version of ubuntu"
[02:14] <kiichiro> hey I have a very old flash drive that doesn't even get recognized until hours if that until ubuntu will recognize it, I believe it to be usb 1.0 is there any way to make it automount faster or for me to go into terminal and tell it to look for usb 1.0, I think I have to disable ehci or echi or something like that?
[02:15] <Bonz> i take your point with the fresh installs but this is a dual boot thing which was messed up by the other clueless person who installed it for me
[02:15] <Polah> Bonz: You have update manager installed right? You can run "do-release-upgrade" at the command line to upgrade your distribution, use sudo of course
[02:15] <zykotick9> Bonz, see Polah's comment above +1
[02:18] <Beav3r> I am having a problem with getting a ndiswapper-installed pci wireless adapter to work. In nm-list it's showing up correctly after installing ndiswapper now but in the windicator the wifi isn't showing up. It's a linksys WDM300n. Anyone have any ideas?
[02:19] <Bonz> cool that seems to be working
[02:19] <[THC]AcidRain> does anyone know anything better for linux than ventrilo server? the 8 slot limit even in an open source environment is rediculous. any ideas? i tried teamspeak with ubuntu and rly didnt like it
[02:19] <Bonz> trying to upgrade so i get a newer version or irc client with less insects
[02:19] <Polah> AcidRain: Mumble. Cross platform and open source.
[02:19] <rww> [THC]AcidRain: Mumble is the usual server for that sort of thing.
[02:20] <Polah> AcidRain: Just to avoid confusion, the actual server program for Mumble is called Murmur.
[02:20] <kiichiro> guessing no one has anything for my proble,?
[02:21] <NCS_One> anyone using FF 3.6.18 give me some help?
[02:21] <[THC]AcidRain> rww, but is there a native mumble client for windows?
[02:21] <Polah> kiichiro: Are you sure the USB drive is functioning correctly, i.e. tested it on another computer?
[02:21] <Polah> !ask | NCS_One
[02:21] <[THC]AcidRain> i would like to setup a universal environment
[02:21] <rww> [THC]AcidRain: yes
[02:21] <Polah> AcidRain: Yes. Mumble is available for all OSes.
[02:22] <kiichiro> yeah on a xp environment is loads right up, but on ubuntu it takes hours, sometimes it just doesn't load at all
[02:22] <rww> No it isn't. Certainly the popular ones, though :)
[02:22] <[THC]AcidRain> Polah, sounds great
[02:22] <Bonz> kiichiro: i used to have that problem so i just mounted the thing manually in /etc/fstab
[02:22] <kiichiro> how do I manually mount?
[02:22] <edbian> kiichiro: sudo mount /path/to/device /path/to/folder/
[02:22] <NCS_One> I on ubuntu 10.4 with FF 3.6.18 and when I do to this web page the FF and ubuntu get very slow, is it only me?  http://www.printinottawa.com/business_card_printing.php
[02:22] <[THC]AcidRain> kiichiro, mount
[02:22] <Polah> AcidRain: It has a fairly simple chat box built in as well, that doesn't require opening an additional window like in Ventrilo. I suggest you read up on Mumble user/group permissions though.
[02:23] <NCS_One> I mean I go
[02:23] <Gunz4MiPPle> is there a limt on how many indicators will auto start
[02:23] <Gunz4MiPPle> limit
[02:23] <kiichiro> fstab as in text document correct
[02:23] <[THC]AcidRain> Polah, im actually on it now. but first im going to test something i found ')
[02:24] <Polah> rww: Fair point (:
[02:24] <kiichiro> edbian,  could you give me an example? like my flashdrive is named KINGSTON and is /media/Kingston
[02:25] <Bonz> kiichiro: there was a good howto for mounting usb stuff by uuid on the net sumwhere but no ideas on the url sorry
[02:26] <Polah> Gunz4MiPPLE: Indicators for what?
[02:26] <Gunz4MiPPle> the indicator area
[02:26] <kiichiro> well I'm in the fstab if you know what to do from there?
[02:26] <Gunz4MiPPle> i think I remember there being a limit on how many indicators will autostart on a new session
[02:27] <Jim455R> how to stop multicast in ubuntu network?
[02:27] <Gunz4MiPPle> it might just be a problem with where the app is trying to put an autostart
[02:27] <Polah> Gunz4MiPPle: On your panels? I guess you could display as many as you could fit, although if you have a lot then there may be some issues or longer load times with them
[02:28] <Gunz4MiPPle> Polah: i am thinking its built into dconf or gconf, a limit
[02:28] <Gunz4MiPPle> cause sometimes i have to manually start some indicators
[02:28] <W4R|Justus> morning
[02:28] <edbian> Who just asked me a question about mounting?
[02:28] <kiichiro> me
[02:29] <Bonz> kiichiro: #/dev/sdb1      /flash  vfat user,noauto,exec   0       0
[02:29] <Bonz> but as you see i no longer use it
[02:29] <edbian> kiichiro: If it's at /media/Kingston it's already mounted
[02:29] <kiichiro> as I've said, it does the automount very slow and has to redo it upon startup every time
[02:30] <paijem-cantik> hello, anyone here experienced with phpmyadmin setup on nginx
[02:30] <paijem-cantik> ??
[02:30] <merchus_> se lee?
[02:30] <bazhang> paijem-cantik, on debian?
[02:31] <paijem-cantik> debian or ubuntu .. i think not to much differences
[02:31] <kiichiro> is there a specific way I'm supposed to edit fstab?
[02:31] <bazhang> paijem-cantik, you're using debian
[02:31] <kiichiro> I clicked and won't let me save it
[02:31] <TheEvilPhoenix> paijem-cantik:  there's an nginx channel: #nginx
[02:31] <usr13> kiichiro: You have to use sudo
[02:31] <zykotick9> kiichiro, are you using sudo / gksudo to open the file?
[02:31] <TheEvilPhoenix> kiichiro:  gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:32] <usr13> kiichiro: or gksudo
[02:32] <Polah> kiichiro: You need to do it using sudo. If you're using gedit then use gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:32] <kiichiro> thanks guys
[02:32] <kiichiro> okay thanks lol, sorry really still new to linux ig
[02:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> paijem-cantik:  you'll need to set up PHP correctly with nginx
[02:33] <paijem-cantik> bazhang: some time ...
[02:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> paijem-cantik:  then it should work.
[02:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> paijem-cantik:  support for that is in #nginx, btw.
[02:33] <bazhang> paijem-cantik, you're crossposting in #debian , your using debian, dont ask for debian support here
[02:33] <paijem-cantik> TheEvilPhoenix: yeah, i have setup it correctly i think.. test phpinfo works normally
[02:34] <paijem-cantik> bazhang: i'm using ubuntu natty
[02:34] <paijem-cantik> bazhang: now using ubuntu natty
[02:34] <volkov_> emerald doesnt work
[02:34] <usr13> paijem-cantik: Then why are you crossposting to #debian?
[02:34] <bazhang> volkov_, its not maintained nor supported
[02:35] <TheEvilPhoenix> !emerald | volkov_
[02:35] <TheEvilPhoenix> damn it, stupid lag
[02:35] <noneabove1182> hey guys, ive got ubuntu 11.04 running in a virtual box, and i ran accelerated graphics to get unity working, but now everything is really choppy, has anyone else had this problem or know how to fix it ?
[02:35] <paijem-cantik> usr13: i hope, somebody there can help me too :)
[02:35] <noneabove1182> *accelerated 3d graphics
[02:36] <aboys72> #
[02:36] <paijem-cantik> usr13: i think not much differences between them for phpmyadmin configuration
[02:36] <rww> paijem-cantik: If you're using Ubuntu, don't post in #debian, it's rude. If you're using Debian, don't post in here, it's rude.
[02:37] <shl> good
[02:37] <noneabove1182> let me know if you can help me even if not immediately
[02:37] <paijem-cantik> rww: okey, thanks for the advices
[02:38] <noneabove1182> hey edbian maybe you can help me :P
[02:38] <paijem-cantik> rww: okey, i will try to #nginx .. maybe some help on there
[02:38] <edbian> noneabove1182: what's up
[02:38] <noneabove1182> im running virtual box
[02:38] <kiichiro> is there a way to use xkill without terminal? terminal kinda froze
[02:38] <noneabove1182> edbian but with 3d graphics the screen isnt refreshing properly
[02:39] <edbian> noneabove1182: I have no idea :(
[02:39] <bazhang> kiichiro, alt f2
[02:39] <edbian> noneabove1182: 3d graphics is something new in virtualbox
[02:39] <noneabove1182> edbian ah well :P
[02:39] <edbian> noneabove1182: good luck friend
[02:39] <Jim455R> anyone knows how to disable ubuntu mutlicast ??
[02:39] <kiichiro> thank you bazhang
[02:39] <Beav3r> Anyone have an idea why wifi isn't showing up in the network drop-down menu if I have PCI adapter installed?
[02:39] <noneabove1182> edbian thanks haha
[02:39] <edbian> Beav3r: What card do you have?
[02:41] <Beav3r> It's a linksys WDM300N, drivers installed with ndiswrapper
[02:41] <usr13> Beav3r: lspci |grep -i wireless  #show us what it says
[02:41] <Jokn> Jim455R: why disable multicast?
[02:41] <Jim455R> i don't use it
[02:42] <Kaapa> hey there. Trying to create a PXEServer to install ubuntu but having some difficulties with dhcp server
[02:42] <Beav3r> Nothing for wireless. It shows up as a network controller subsistem: Linksys Device
[02:42] <Jokn> I don't know about desktop version, but you should be able to do it through ifconfig
[02:42] <Kaapa> trying to run dhcpserver in the host, but the host itself is getting a ip
[02:42] <usr13> Kaapa: Where is the DHCP server?
[02:42] <KM0201> Beav3r: that's all it says?.. does lspci identify it?
[02:43] <usr13> Kaapa: YOu need to trun OFF the dhcp server on your router.
[02:43] <Kaapa> usr13: on the same box
[02:43] <Kaapa> well, I need the dhcp server in the router
[02:43] <Kaapa> else I won't  be able to do a net install
[02:43] <usr13> Kaapa: The host should have a static IP.  (You can't have two dhcp servers running on the same LAN).
[02:44] <Kaapa> I'm trying to run the dhcp server on eth0 only
[02:44] <usr13> Kaapa: So turn off the dhcp server on the router and let the dhcp server on the PC take over.
[02:44] <Kaapa> the router is wireless
[02:44] <Beav3r> KM0201: When I just do lspci it shows Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4321 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)
[02:45] <Beav3r> So I must have screwed up somewhere.
[02:45] <KM0201> Beav3r: i believe that needs the STA driver
[02:45] <Kaapa> usr13: can't this be done without removing dhcp form the rourter?
[02:45] <Kaapa> the router is wireless, and I'm trying to use nat with a phisical cable
[02:45] <Beav3r> Okay, now I'm carpet burning to this thing so how should I go about getting that?
[02:45] <KM0201> Beav3r: yup, the STA driver..  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Installing STA drivers
[02:46] <Nubi1Kenobi> need some help with finding a path to a network drive in terminal mode
[02:46] <Beav3r> Okay. So I should probably clear the blacklist it had me set up when I installed ndiswrapper, then?
[02:46] <KM0201> Beav3r: afffirmative
[02:46] <usr13> Kaapa: It will be much easier if you just turn off the dhcp server on the router and let the dhcp server on the PC take over.
[02:46] <noneabove1182> hey guys ive got a problem of my screen not refreshing properly (kinda choppy and only when i do an action) when im running ubuntu 11.04 in a virtualbox with 3D accelerated graphics and unity, any one able to help ?
[02:47] <Beav3r> Alright. I'll give that a try.
[02:47] <Kaapa> usr13: the dhcp in the router is over the wireless connection. Over the wired connection is working ok
[02:47] <Raisor> anyone know where I can find linux raid drivers that work with ubuntu 64 and the EVGA X58 FTW3 motherboard?
[02:48] <Kaapa> but for some reason, when I do the wired connection, the computer that's acting as a bridge is losing access to the internet
[02:49] <usr13> Kaapa: Are they intergrated?  Or not?
[02:49] <usr13> Kaapa: What router do you have?
[02:50] <Kaapa> usr13: I'm trying to install ubuntu in a laptop that doesn't have an optical drive and usb boot doesn't work
[02:50] <Kaapa> usr13: so I'm trying to use another laptop to act as a pxeserver and use net install
[02:50] <usr13> Kaapa: What subnet do you have on the Wireless?  What subnet do you have on the wired network?
[02:51] <Kaapa> wireless: 192.168.1.X; wired, I'm chosing 192.168.0.X
[02:51] <Chilaquiles> I created a DVD to be able to be played on my DVD player using DeVeDe but when I insterted it into my DVD player it says it's not able to play because it's not made for this region, Does anybody know how can I change this?
[02:51] <usr13> Kaapa: What do you mean, you are choosing?
[02:52] <Kaapa> usr13: I'm configuring /etc/dhcpcd for those values and assiging that class to eth1
[02:52] <_aaron_> I need help with my dhcpd.conf
[02:57] <cuneyt> hi
[02:57] <cuneyt> how can i install mysql devel library on ubuntu via apt-get?
[02:58] <Jokn> cuneyt: search for the package using apt-cache search <package>
[02:58] <dreamy_> hi, ive lost hyperZ from ubuntu version 10.04 and up.. anyone knows what i can do?
[02:58] <Jokn> cuneyt: once you find the package just do sudo apt-get install <package>
[03:00] <ArseneRei> Does firefox follow an gtkrc or Xdefaults? I recently upgraded to natty and I suddenly the colors seem to follow my terminal's background color.
[03:01] <_aaron_> I need help with my dhcpd.conf
[03:02] <kwixson> How do I move my /home directory to another disk?
[03:03] <traskers> Can anyone recommend a good font that can be used for creating small icons such as a speaker, headphones, etc. to be used in a conky setup?
[03:04] <rypervenche> traskers: Ask SIFTU in #filmsbykris, he has a nice one.
[03:05] <zykotick9> kwixson, COPY your current /home to the other drive, then specify a /home mount in fstab.  Once it's tested working you could remove the origional /home/* BE SURE TO UMOUNT THE NEW HOME FIRST!
[03:06] <kwixson> zykotick9: Thx. Might have more questions.
[03:06] <Jim455R> GUYS !!
[03:06] <Jim455R> i want a network status on the panel
[03:06] <Jim455R> that shows the speed in real time
[03:06] <Jim455R> up/down speed
[03:07] <dreamy_> why arent there any games at the games section on ubuntu 10.10 software center?
[03:08] <Beav3r> KM0201: I installed the packages as instructed from that page (dkms and bcmwl, fakeroot and patch weren't on the CD) but the STA does not show up in the additional drivers program. Do I need to locate those missing packets elsewhere or are they not needed for 11.04?
[03:09] <KM0201> Beav3r: hmm, did you try restarting?
[03:09] <scorchgeek> dreamy_: that's unusual, I've never had missing items
[03:09] <Beav3r> It's booting now, I wasn't sure if it would help or not since the doc didn't mention it.
[03:09] <scorchgeek> dreamy_: try running sudo apt-get update
[03:10] <dreamy_> ok
[03:10] <KM0201> Beav3r: actually....   Note: A computer restart may be required before using the wifi card.
[03:10] <Beav3r> Yeah, but I thought that was after activating the STA driver.
[03:10] <KM0201> ah, thats true.
[03:12] <Chilaquiles> I created a DVD to be able to be played on my DVD player using DeVeDe but when I insterted it into my DVD player it says it's not able to play because it's not made for this region, Does anybody know how can I change this?
[03:13] <Jim455R> HELP ME!
[03:13] <KM0201> !ask
[03:13] <scorchgeek> Jim455R: well, we don't know what your problem is
[03:13] <Jim455R> i want somethign that shows the speed of the LAN
[03:13] <Jim455R> in the panel
[03:13] <KM0201> Jim455R: in the panel?.. hm.
[03:13] <scorchgeek> Jim455R: in GNOME?
[03:13] <Jim455R> yea gnome
[03:14] <KM0201> onlyt hing i know fo is Top, but it's command line
[03:14] <Jim455R> i want lik windows in the taskbar you see an icon with numbers in it
[03:14] <Jim455R> showsing the network speed in realtime
[03:14] <scorchgeek> you don't see numbers usually...?
[03:14] <bazhang> Jim455R, why not use conky instead
[03:14] <Tech-1> or gkrellm
[03:15] <zykotick9> Chilaquiles, from what I'm reading looks like you can choose NTSC or PAL in devede, which did you choose, and are you in the US?
[03:15] <Jim455R> bazhang yeah very nice
[03:15] <Jim455R> bazhang i want it in the panel
[03:16] <Jim455R> at the top or bottom
[03:16] <Jim455R> you are closing to what i want
[03:16] <Chilaquiles> zykotick9: I'm in Mexico, and I chose PAL
[03:16] <Tech-1> gkrellm = http://imagebin.org/168046
[03:16] <scorchgeek> Jim455R: try the package "netspeed"
[03:16] <Chilaquiles> zykotick9: it's that the problem?
[03:16] <scorchgeek> Jim455R: then run sudo killall gnome-panel, and you can right-click on the panel and add it
[03:16] <scorchgeek> looks exactly like what you're asking for
[03:16] <zykotick9> Chilaquiles, PAL is typically Europe, but I'm not 100% what Mexico uses, my guess would be NTSC though
[03:17] <bazhang> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/how-to-display-network-upload-download.html Jim455R
[03:17] <kwixson> zykotick9: Okay, I've copied everything to the new disk (the /home directory that is)
[03:17] <zykotick9> kwixson, do you see /home in the new location or the contents of /home (ie the user names)
[03:17] <User809> any ubuntu tablets available?
[03:18] <Jim455R> yes scorchgeek .. damn good one
[03:18] <Jim455R> thank you very very much
[03:18] <AnonSpy> friends a good vpn for backtrack 5
[03:18] <_aaron_> zykotick9, it doesn't matter if he chooses ntsc or pal he need to change the region of the disc to region 0
[03:18] <Chilaquiles> zykotick9: I think it's NTSC, like this map says right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PAL-NTSC-SECAM.svg
[03:18] <rww> AnonSpy: Backtrack Linux is not supported here. Ask #backtrack-linux.
[03:18] <bazhang> AnonSpy, try the bt channel, its not supported here
[03:18] <Chilaquiles> zykotick9: or what do you think?
[03:19] <zykotick9> Chilaquiles, perhaps _aaron_ has more info?  But i'd try with NTSC and see if that works.  Best of luck.
[03:19] <kwixson> zykotick9: Check that. I thought I had copied everything, but didn't
[03:19] <User809> i know smartQ r7 has a ubuntu e-reader that's as close as i found to a tablet :(
[03:19] <User809> ^v7
[03:19] <Chilaquiles> _aaron_: how can I change that to region 0?
[03:20] <bazhang> User809, thats really out of scope for this channel, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:20] <kwixson> How do you copy everything properly. I assume there's more to it than dragging and dropping.
[03:20] <User809> k
[03:20] <scorchgeek> kwixson: copy what properly?
[03:20] <bazhang> !home > kwixson
[03:20] <_aaron_> Chilaquiles, is it an iso of a dvd or a video file that you are converting
[03:21] <Chilaquiles> iso of a DVD
[03:21] <d1g1ta1> one of my users deleted his hard drive partition... is there a utility that let's me put it back without reloading all his software?
[03:21] <zykotick9> kwixson, you need to be sure you copy with permission intact.  "sudo cp -ra /home/* /NEWLOCATION/" should work.
[03:21] <scorchgeek> funny you ask, someone asked about unformatting a partition earlier today...I don't know of one off-hand
[03:21] <Chilaquiles> sorry
[03:22] <jef91> I have a display manager compiled and installed, but it didn't add itself to the list of display managers by default like most do (EG, LXDM and GDM). How can I tell the system to find and use this new display manager at startup? Right now I have to manually run "sudo elsa start" from the tty
[03:22] <scorchgeek> d1g1ta1: I think there's a way to recover data from such an area, but it's probably not worth the effort unless there's no backup
[03:22] <scorchgeek> I also don't know anything about it:)
[03:22] <lemons> I'm on 11.04 and today ubuntu has been randomly lagging after I'm gone for a few hours and come back. Programs seem to run fine, but my mouse is extremely laggy. No processes are using a lot of CPU or memory though so I don't understand whats wrong. Why is it doing this, and is there anyway to fix it without restarting my computer?
[03:22] <Chilaquiles> _aaron_: I have an avi file, and I'm using DeVeDe to convert that avi file into a ISO then I want to burn that to be able to play in my DVD player
[03:22] <scorchgeek> lemons: try logging out and logging back in again, or do you want to avoid that too?
[03:23] <zykotick9> kwixson, be sure to see that link that bazhang sent you!  It's pure gold for what you are doing.
[03:23] <_aaron_> Chilaquiles, one second please
[03:23] <lemons> scorchgeek: i dont mind doing that, but it didn't fix it when this first happened earlier today
[03:23] <scorchgeek> you might also check your mouse batteries if you have a wireless mouse, that can cause a lot of lag
[03:23] <lemons> I'm using a wired logitech G500
[03:23] <urlin2u> d1g1ta1, this is a option, been known to find the deleted partitioning, if not written over and generally messed with. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[03:24] <scorchgeek> lemons: well, no more ideas then, sorry
[03:24] <lemons> is it possible that the G15 daemon for my keyboard would be causing it? its the only thing new i've installed, and i think i installed it today
[03:24] <Chilaquiles> _aaron_: ok
[03:24] <ChrisRJersey> that's strange it says I can't comment in this channel...
[03:24] <ChrisRJersey> ah, nevermind then
[03:24] <scorchgeek> lemons: seems plausible, they both have something to do with input devices at least
[03:24] <bazhang> ChrisRJersey, what says that
[03:25] <lemons> they're both wired though which is weird. i guess i'll uninstall it then reboot and see if it happens again
[03:25] <Jim455R> bazhang thanks for you help
[03:25] <propman> !home > propman
[03:25] <jimubao> is there a good link of how to set up samba?
[03:26] <jimubao> basically i wanna shared once of my harddrive from my ubuntu to the network
[03:26] <bazhang> !samba > jimubao
[03:26] <ChrisRJersey> bazhang, the nihongo channel, i miss-commented in this one
[03:26] <ChrisRJersey> they're right under each other on my list
[03:27] <ChrisRJersey> I don't suppose you know why this might be happening?
[03:27] <Veku> hello..
[03:27] <Veku> I'm having problem installing Flash player on Ubuntu..anyone have any idea?
[03:27] <kwixson> Thanks all. I'll try to parse the instructions in that link and see if I can make it work.
[03:27] <_aaron_> Chilaquiles, what version of devede are you using
[03:27] <scorchgeek> Veku: what exactly is going wrong?
[03:28] <ubuntu> hello
[03:28] <Veku> scorchgeek: well I go to their website..select which version I need..and that's it..nothing happenes..
[03:28] <Chilaquiles> _aaron_: 3.16.9 I guess It's the last one since I just downloaded and installed
[03:28] <ubuntu> i'm a new usr
[03:28] <_aaron_> Chilaquiles, ok one more second
[03:28] <ubuntu> which the platform is linux
[03:28] <Veku> I started to think thres something wrong with the OS installation or something
[03:29] <bazhang> ubuntu, pardon?
[03:29] <scorchgeek> ubuntu: and do you have a question for us?
[03:29] <ubuntu> and i want to get some help about these
[03:29] <ubuntu> yes
[03:29] <bazhang> Veku, install from the package manager
[03:29] <scorchgeek> Veku: try installing the package flashplugin-installer through the package manager
[03:29] <bazhang> ubuntu, whats the exact question
[03:29] <ubuntu> i find i can't install some softwares
[03:30] <bazhang> ubuntu, what software
[03:30] <ubuntu> for example, linuxqq_v1-1.0.2-beta1_i386.deb
[03:30] <scorchgeek> so, what do you do and what error do you get?
[03:30] <Veku> hmm..
[03:30] <Veku> yeah..I think I konw what your talking aobut..
[03:31] <scorchgeek> Veku: what?
[03:31] <urlin2u> Veku, have you ruen a update?
[03:31] <urlin2u> run
[03:31] <Veku> when i use the web browser..a window pops up saying i should install flush plug-ins
[03:31] <ubuntu> because  it shows that  "could not open **  ,Archive type not supported
[03:31] <Veku> but when I click to install..it says it cant find the package or something
[03:31] <Veku> so I went to the website
[03:31] <scorchgeek> Veku: try running the command "sudo apt-get update"
[03:32] <Veku> oh
[03:32] <Veku> and thats it?
[03:32] <Polah> Veku: Open up a terminal (ctrl+alt+T) and type this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer and then enter your password and press y when prompted to install.
[03:32] <scorchgeek> Veku: what Polah said, that's the other part :)
[03:32] <bazhang> Veku, dont install from the website; please listen, and install from the package manager
[03:32] <Veku> okk
[03:32] <merlot> Hello, I have c++ program that I would like to put in a .deb package and make available for people. I'm not familiar with the build scripts anyone with a url?
[03:32] <scorchgeek> ubuntu: sounds like that package might be corrupt, you might try downloading it again
[03:33] <Veku> sounds good..so do I have to do the same thing for Google Chrome then?
[03:33] <bazhang> !compile > merlot
[03:33] <bazhang> !packaging > merlot
[03:33] <scorchgeek> Veku: I think it may be automatically installed in Google Chrome
[03:33] <Flannel> merlot: #ubuntu-packaging probably has plenty of info
[03:33] <scorchgeek> at least that's what I'm told when I go to their site
[03:33] <merlot> great thanks guys!
[03:33] <Veku> yeah..thats wht i thought..so I wanted to dl Chrome..
[03:33] <Veku> but it wouldn't install afterward!
[03:33] <bazhang> Veku, they add repos, go to their site
[03:33] <Veku> says somekind of error
[03:33] <ubuntu> but i download it again
[03:34] <scorchgeek> Veku: what error
[03:34] <bazhang> Veku, you need to update your package list: sudo apt-get update
[03:34] <_aaron_> Chilaquiles, try changing it to NTSC it might just change the region to 0 which is universal. the only other info i can give you is to check out doom9.net
[03:34] <Veku> something...<= some numbers...
[03:34] <scorchgeek> Veku: please paste the exact error, it's hard to tell what the problem is otherwise
[03:34] <ubuntu> and i get the same software  in different place
[03:34] <Veku> oh..ok
[03:35] <Chilaquiles> it's that better? or I can change the region to 0 with doom9?
[03:35] <ubuntu> and i try to install it
[03:35] <bazhang> ubuntu, you want to use qq?
[03:35] <ubuntu> but i give me a wrong
[03:35] <ubuntu> yes
[03:35] <bazhang> ubuntu, empathy can handle qq
[03:35] <Veku> Im currently using mirc client on windows..what irc client is good for Linux..and how should I install them?
[03:35] <Chilaquiles> _aaron_:  it's that better? or I can change the region to 0 with doom9?
[03:35] <scorchgeek> Veku: I personally like irssi, but there are tons
[03:35] <theadmin> Veku: Ubuntu comes with XChat
[03:35] <theadmin> Veku: irssi is a great one, too
[03:35] <bazhang> Veku, from the package manager, as all else
[03:36] <Veku> ok
[03:36] <bazhang> theadmin, you mean empathy as default
[03:36] <Veku> so where do I find the package manager? settings menue?
[03:36] <scorchgeek> system --> applications --> synaptic package manager on gnome
[03:36] <_aaron_> Chilaquiles, doom9.net is a website with tools for video editing  but i would try NTSC
[03:37] <theadmin> bazhang: I think Ubuntu used to come with XChat at some point
[03:37] <Veku> so I have to run the command..and then use the update package?
[03:37] <scorchgeek> Veku: you can install flash just from the command lin
[03:37] <Veku> oh
[03:38] <Veku> so I dont need to use the package manager?
[03:38] <scorchgeek> sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[03:38] <scorchgeek> the package manager is good for browsing packages you don't know the name of
[03:38] <Veku> oh
[03:38] <scorchgeek> if you do know the name you can install it through the manager, but it's usually faster not to
[03:38] <Veku> got it..
[03:39] <scorchgeek> erm
[03:39] <scorchgeek> I wrote the command wrong
[03:39] <Veku> so the irssi is already in the package manager?
[03:39] <Veku> or I need to d/l that?
[03:39] <scorchgeek> that should have been sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[03:39] <scorchgeek> irssi is there, sudo apt-get install irssi
[03:39] <Veku> oh
[03:39] <scorchgeek> but run the update one before anything else, since you're having trouble your package database might be out of date
[03:40] <wildbat1> any tools to edit/mount WIM file under linux??
[03:40] <Veku> ok so I'll write down all these commands and log off windows and...yeah.. :D
[03:40] <Chilaquiles> I always have problems with the USB not recognizing them, sometimer I have to restart the computer with the USB stick plugged in, otherwise it doesn't recognize them right away. Is there any fix for this?
[03:40] <scorchgeek> Chilaquiles: the USB not recognizing the USB sticks?
[03:40] <scorchgeek> er, the computer not recognizing the USB sticks?
[03:41] <Chilaquiles> scorchgeek: sorry, Ubuntu doesn't recognize the USB sticks
[03:41] <Anom01y> hi, for some reason I have a webserver running on my Ubuntu machine, but I don't know which program is running it..
[03:42] <scorchgeek> Anom01y: chances are it's apache, that's the usual webserver (though I'm not sure why you have that going on)
[03:42] <rww> Anom01y: "sudo netstat -lnp --inet", look for local addresses ending in :80
[03:42] <Anom01y> when I go to this website      http://localhost:80  it pulls up a page saying "it works! This is the default web page for this server. The web server software is running but no content has been added yet."
[03:43] <Anom01y> scorchgeek, I did install it but didn';t think it would be running
[03:43] <Jokn> Anom01y: kill the server
[03:43] <ubuntu__> is this the best place to ask tech support-ish questions?
[03:43] <rww> Anom01y: why not?
[03:43] <Jokn> unless you're using it for something lol
[03:43] <bazhang> wildbat1, whats a WIM file
[03:43] <scorchgeek> Anom01y: oh, well usually if you install it it starts running, why did you install it if you didn't want it running
[03:43] <Anom01y> ok thaanks
[03:43] <Anom01y> well not yet
[03:43] <Jokn> oh just stop the service then sudo server apache2 stop
[03:44] <Jokn> service*
[03:44] <Anom01y> is there any special program that identifies any servers on your computer that are running ?
[03:44] <bazhang> ubuntu__, ubuntu support, tech-ish stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:44] <Flannel> Anom01y: It sounds like apache.
[03:44] <scorchgeek> Anom01y: did you run that netstat command earlier?
[03:44] <benzoic_acid> bazhang: thanks
[03:45] <Flannel> Anom01y: but `service --list-all` will list everything (including things installed by default which should be running)
[03:45] <Flannel> Anom01y: Er, sorry, service --status-all
[03:46] <dinkyd00> when I press ctrl-alyt-[1-6] I get the terminal login  but the resolution seems to be off, I only see characters after the first few -- any ideas?? much thanks
[03:46] <scorchgeek> dinkyd00: what do you mean by 'only seeing characters after the first few'?
[03:48] <dinkyd00> scorchgeek: it seems like the resolution is set higher than the monitor is set for -- it is a 16:9 widescreen
[03:48] <Internetinator> how do you pronounce ubuntu
[03:48] <dinkyd00> if that makes sense
[03:48] <alazare619_> can someone help me make sense of this
[03:48] <alazare619_> http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/thunar-plugins/thunar-shares-plugin#setup-samba
[03:48] <JimmyNeutron> you - bun (as in your bottom) 2
[03:49] <tensorpudding> Internetinator: uu-BUNN-too
[03:49] <scorchgeek> dinkyd00: usually the screen in those terminals is somewhat distorted on widescreens in my experience
[03:49] <scorchgeek> if that's what you mean?
[03:50] <dinkyd00> scorchgeek: that's what I was thinking .. that doesn't make it ok tho. =( any work arounds or things I can do to make this less unpleasant?
[03:51] <Jim455R> bazhang thanks man for the link. it worked perfectly
[03:51] <Jim455R> really appericate your help
[03:52] <bazhang> Jim455R, welcome
[03:52] <Jim455R> i asked here for days
[03:52] <scorchgeek> dinkyd00: check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1257791
[03:52] <Jim455R> this is very amazing and simple way to give me the infos about the lan speed
[03:54] <dinkyd00> scorchgeek: thanks .. I'll give it a shot
[03:54] <dinkyd00> I gotta run -- KEEP UBUNTU K00L!!
[03:54] <Singham> Hi...I have installed ubuntu 10.10 and then installed the video drive from the "Additional Drivre's" options.After installation it asked me to restart.and when I restarted the laptop,It started in text mode.What might be the prob ?
[03:56] <Singham> bazhang : Can you please help me ?
[03:57] <arooni-mobile> 1) running 11.04 on my t420; unity becomes unresponsive several times per day.  to solve; i go into a different tty; and do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ;; is there a better solution?  2) is there a way to get ubuntu to stop prompting me to enter my login password after i've logged in (something about a keyring)
[03:57] <scorchgeek> Singham: when you boot into recovery mode there's an option to restore the X server configuration or drivers or something. You might try that.
[03:58] <scorchgeek> arooni-mobile: well, this isn't a way to make it stop hanging, but pressing ctrl-alt-sysrq (printscreen key)-K kills the X server and deals with that a little bit faster :)
[03:58] <installubuntu> I'm trying to install lubuntu on Toshiba satellite a50 series and its always crash when it portitioned the hd please help
[03:58] <arooni-mobile> so its control + alt + printscreen  + the letter k ?
[03:59] <theadmin> scorchgeek: No need for Ctrl
[03:59] <theadmin> arooni-mobile: It's Right Alt+PrtSc+K
[03:59] <installubuntu> anyone ?
[03:59] <SIFTU> arooni-mobile: that is an optimus enabled laptop right?
[03:59] <arooni-mobile> scorchgeek, is this a known problem with laptops?
 : Where I am unable to get it
[03:59] <scorchgeek> theadmin: I thought sometimes the alt gets captured by the screenshot taking thing? I dunno, I usually add it just to make sure
[04:00] <arooni-mobile> SIFTU, it can be; mine isnt.  its running the intel integrated graphics.  when i bought it; it seemed as though nvidia would  never support optimus on linux
 : It opens just like terminal
[04:00] <scorchgeek> Singham: in your GRUB menu when you boot up, there's a recovery mode option
[04:00] <scorchgeek> sorry I wasn't very clear on that
[04:00] <SIFTU> arooni-mobile: yeah I had hard hangs on my Dell XPS until I moved to kernel 3.0.. about once a day
[04:01] <SIFTU> arooni-mobile: and the intel is about 3 times faster on 3.0 according to glxgears
[04:01] <arooni-mobile> SIFTU, so is that kernel coming in the next ubuntu release?
[04:01] <scorchgeek> Singham: if you don't see the boot menu automatically, press escape right before ubuntu starts loading
[04:01] <SIFTU> arooni-mobile: not sure.. I dont run ubuntu sorry
[04:01] <SIFTU> arooni-mobile: but I'm sure you could find it in a PPA
[04:02] <arooni-mobile> SIFTU, yeah i just get scared when changing kernel out of step with release
[04:02] <theadmin> arooni-mobile: From what I know the next release, 11.10, still comes with 2.6.x
[04:02] <arooni-mobile> sad day for me
[04:03] <arooni-mobile> maybe unity will be more stable... maybe.
[04:03] <SIFTU> arooni-mobile: those 2nd gen intels with the nvidia GPU (optimus) were a real problem for me in 6.38 and 39
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[04:04] <scorchgeek> Singham: you should have a menu
[04:04] <scorchgeek> and unless it's changed since I last saw it there's an option to repair the graphics driver or something? sorry I don't know exactly
 : Wait
[04:05] <installubuntu> partioning here need help
[04:08] <Singham> scorchgeek : What to select in that menu ?
[04:09] <scorchgeek> Singham: hmm, is there not something about graphics?
 : failsafeX option ?
[04:10] <scorchgeek> well that will load the system, at which point you could try to fix the drivers
[04:10] <scorchgeek> it wasn't what I was thinking of, but I guess I misremembered, or else the option I was thinking of has been removed
[04:11] <scorchgeek> you might try booting failsafe X and reinstalling the drivers
[04:11] <scorchgeek> unfortunately I have to go, so good luck
[04:11] <intelinside2020> How to configure USB Modem in ubuntu 10.04
[04:12] <HeGuru> intelinside2020: make/model of the modem?
[04:12] <ccmonster> hey guys, when I managed my media mounts in pysdm, it seems that root gets r/w perms
[04:12] <intelinside2020> HeGuru: Tata Photon Plus
[04:12] <ccmonster> i want to set it so I have rw perms, but i have to run pysdm under root, so not sure the best way to do this
[04:13] <HeGuru> intelinside2020: well its rebranded as tata photon, can you give the USB ID of the modem? run lsusb on the shell to find that
[04:14] <intelinside2020> HeGuru: iam in windows as i use that modem to connect internet so how to see that in fo in windows
[04:14] <gugugaga> i got 2 tv tuner how to select the one i like on tvtime ?
[04:15] <HeGuru> intelinside2020: Start device manager (right click my computer and properties then hardware) find the modem, right click->properties, then go to device information
[04:15] <_aaron_> help setting up dhcp server
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> _aaron_: look into dnsmasq
[04:15] <_aaron_> !dnsmasq
[04:15] <root_> 123
[04:16] <DonaldKeyz> how do i know if i have 32 bit or 64 bit version?
[04:16] <HeGuru> intelinside2020: you might also want to check this out: http://linuxers.org/howto/how-set-tata-photon-huawei-ec1261-ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx
[04:17] <HeGuru> DonaldKeyz: uname -a
[04:17] <_aaron_> help with dhcpd.config
[04:17] <DonaldKeyz> thnx
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> DonaldKeyz: uname -m    u686 = 32bit   x86_64 = 64bit
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> i686 sorry
[04:17] <ccmonster> anyone?
[04:18] <ccmonster> i cant get tixati to write to a drive, it says it cant create folder. Not sure how to see what user the app is running under
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: what username does it run as normally?
[04:19] <intelinside2020> HeGuru: that was the link which i refered first
[04:19] <ccmonster> i assume as me?
[04:19] <HeGuru> intelinside2020: sorry I just joined
[04:19] <ccmonster> but when i go into the drive in nautilus and look at the folder properties, it says its under root
[04:19] <ccmonster> which is odd. because I thought I made the owner as me, so...yea
[04:19] <SIFTU> ccmonster: you tried the dynamic configuration rules like in http://pysdm.sourceforge.net/screenshots/udev_04.png
[04:19] <gugugaga> who know anything about tvtime ?
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: check, then you can make a group with root and the user in and make it the group owner of the folder. Make a note of the current owners
[04:20] <ccmonster> is that the suggested method ActionParsnip ?
[04:20] <ccmonster> SIFTU, i was messing with that.
[04:20] <_aaron_> ActionParsnip, I'm getting an error in my dhcpd.config
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> ccmonster: its one way, i don't think there really is a suggested method. Could ask in #php or similar
[04:21] <HeGuru> _aaron_: ask/explain your question
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> _aaron_: There will be dnsmasq how tos online
[04:21] <intelinside2020> HeGuru: V-ME101   HSIA USB Modem
[04:21] <SIFTU> ccmonster: so its mounted as root but the actual file permissions need to be changed from root to your user?
[04:22] <HeGuru> intelinside2020: I need the device ID, you should find it in device information, something like: USB\VID_1241&PID_E000\5&1DC3342F&0&2
[04:22] <_aaron_> HeGuru, it says that my subnet.mask combination is bad
[04:22] <ccmonster> SIFTU, I guess that's one method
[04:22] <crking> where should I active my numlock by the help of LightDM?
[04:22] <ccmonster> When i right click in the folder, it shows owner/user as root:root
[04:23] <HeGuru> _aaron_: pastebin your file to http://goo.gl/ixcN9
[04:23] <ccmonster> but whne i am in dynamic configuration, I made the owner me.
[04:23] <ccmonster> if i go back and look at the permissions, it still shows root.
[04:23] <SIFTU> ccmonster: ok well you can change that easy enough.. what file system is it?
[04:23] <ccmonster> do i need to unmount then remount?
[04:23] <SIFTU> ccmonster: no it's probably just the file permissions
[04:24] <ccmonster> ok, because it says I can't unmount because I am not hte owner.
[04:24] <ccmonster> little confusing, you could say
[04:24] <SIFTU> ccmonster: sudo chown <user>:<user> <filename>
[04:24] <ccmonster> is that the best way?
[04:25] <SIFTU> ccmonster: try that one 1 file, if it works it's easy to do it for the whole device
[04:25] <intelinside2020> HeGuru:USB\VID_201E&PID_2009&REV_0000&MI_00
[04:25] <ccmonster> shouldn't i use the pysdm if possible? I mean, it's suppose to be a great tool, no?
[04:25] <yaswanth> is it best os for fast internet?
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> _aaron_: what mask have you assigned?
[04:25] <SIFTU> ccmonster: it depends how it mounts it.. generally root needs to mount filesystems unless it's a fuse filesystem
[04:26] <crking> if i want to start my system with numlock on and i have GDM i should an script to /Int of GDM if i use kdm something else. how ould i do that with lightdm.????
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> yaswanth: is what?
[04:26] <ccmonster> a fuse filesystem?
[04:26] <ubuntu> why the Ubuntu system doesn't support the software which is *.deb
[04:26] <ccmonster> and it's a ntfs drive
[04:26] <SIFTU> ccmonster: yeah runs under the user
[04:26] <_aaron_> ActionParsnip, 10.0.0.1  255.0.0.0
[04:26] <SIFTU> ccmonster: ah ok
[04:26] <ccmonster> i have a floating drive that I share between my win boot and nix boot
[04:26] <bazhang> ubuntu, it does.
[04:26] <bazhang> ubuntu, you wanted to use qq?
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: it does, the packages you install are all debs from the install CD or the official repos
[04:26] <yaswanth> for browsing are downloading purpose
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> _aaron_: yikes, clas A....really?
[04:27] <ubuntu> but it can't install eve.deb
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> yaswanth: there is no best OS for that, that is a none specific need. Any recent OS will do that
[04:27] <_aaron_> ActionParsnip, i've tried a class C aswell
[04:27] <ccmonster> SIFTU, it said chown: changing ownership of `Stowaway/': Read-only file system
[04:27] <ccmonster> when i tried to chown the whole mnt
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: sure it can. just double click the file, or run:  sudo dpkg -i filename
[04:27] <SIFTU> ccmonster: have you got ntfs-3g installed?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> SIFTU: its part of the kernel now :)
[04:28] <ccmonster> not sure
[04:28] <HeGuru> intelinside2020: its a Haier CE100 modem, follow this post to get it working http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?t=579&sid=90d9d77f0679aa6290a20b27399f5700
[04:28] <yaswanth> which is the best browser for this os
[04:28] <SIFTU> ActionParsnip: ah ok
[04:28] <ccmonster> yes, it is installed SIFTU
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> yaswanth: there is no single outright best browser for any OS
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> yaswanth: there is no single best anyting in life
[04:29] <crking> no idea?
[04:29] <ubuntu> the problem is not the permissions
[04:29] <ubuntu> i give them execute
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> yaswanth: you are using an OS which promotes freedom and choice, yet you ask some strangers in a channel what to think and use...smacks of microsoft don't you tink?
[04:30] <yaswanth> atleast can you tell which browser you are using
[04:30] <ubuntu> but the OS  don't support them
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> yaswanth: arora and chromium-browser
[04:30] <ubuntu> firefox
[04:30] <ccmonster> ok so ntfs-3g is installed
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> !browser | yaswanth
[04:31] <_aaron_> ActionParsnip, HeGuru, http://paste.ubuntu.com/666981/
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> yaswanth: take your pick
[04:31] <theadmin> Okay, this is weird
[04:31] <SIFTU> ccmonster: I have never used that GUI you are talking about
[04:31] <theadmin> "Opera (Qt..."? Opera has a Gtk version as well.
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> _aaron_: my dns is scewed right now so I get no web access, will check in a while
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: update the factoid then ;)
[04:31] <ubuntu> how can i get the picture
[04:31] <ccmonster> pysdm?
[04:31] <yaswanth> k nice thank you . . . and can you tell best use this os
[04:31] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Ah true, how do I do that again?
[04:31] <ubuntu> can you tell the way
[04:31] <intelinside2020> HeGuru: thank u i wil go check and come back :)
[04:32] <_aaron_> ActionParsnip, ddns-update-style none;  default-lease-time 86400; max-lease-time 86400;  subnet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 {    range 10.0.0.1 10.255.255.254; }
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: /msg ubottu !browser is Browsers available for Ubuntu..... etc
[04:32] <ccmonster> is there a config i can write to have it work on boot?
[04:33] <yaswanth> hey actionparsnip i am askng you only . . . best use of this os
[04:33] <SIFTU> ccmonster: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/<your-NTFS-partition> /{mnt,...}/<folder>
[04:33] <bazhang> !manual | yaswanth
[04:33] <bazhang> !wiki | yaswanth
[04:34] <bazhang> yaswanth, please read those links first
[04:34] <HeGuru> _aaron_: change 10.0.0.1 to 10.0.0.0
[04:34] <ccmonster> whats the /{mnt.....} part
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> yaswanth: its a very flexble OS, it can be whatever you want, from a wireless access point to a file / mail server to a standard desktop for word processing / email PC
[04:34] <HeGuru> _aaron_: in the line subnet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0
[04:34] <SIFTU> ccmonster: the directory you wish to mount it under
[04:34] <rww> theadmin: please link me to a GTK-based version of Opera
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> yaswanth: you use best FAR too much, you need to expand you r horizons on what an OS is and can be
[04:35] <veku> is scorchgeek gone?!
[04:35] <veku> ok
[04:35] <HeGuru> _aaron_: you might want to switch to Class B or C however
[04:36] <theadmin> rww: I don't know about the official downloads, however, in Pacman's dependencies of Opera there is "gtk2: for gtk integration", soo...
[04:36] <theadmin> rww: I thought that's official, sorry
[04:36] <veku> can anyone please tell me how to install Gnome3. I'm new on Linux.
[04:37] <arooni-mobile> when does 11.10 come out?
[04:37] <rww> arooni-mobile: October
[04:37] <theadmin> veku: It's unsupported on Ubuntu.
[04:37] <theadmin> arooni-mobile: The Ubuntu versioning scheme is year.month
[04:37] <veku> shoot
[04:37] <bazhang> veku, its not supported, and will break unity. avoid it
[04:37] <bazhang> !gnome3 | veku
[04:37] <HeGuru> arooni-mobile: in 11.10 11 is 2011 and 10 is Month 10 (October) so 11.10 will be release in October 2011
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> veku: emphasis on the WILL BREAK bit
[04:37] <veku> got it
[04:38] <veku> so I need Fedora then?
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> veku: if you hang til October you can use Gnome3 there, why is it so critical to use Gnome3
[04:38] <theadmin> veku: Fedora, Arch, Gentoo... Any more up-to-date distro
[04:38] <_aaron_> ActionParsnip, HeGuru, changed it to class C but now it says to check the syslog
[04:39] <HeGuru> _aaron_: you also changed your range accordingly? also pastebin any errors from /var/log/syslog
[04:39] <veku> well cause I was told the desktop environment is more efficient and clean..and intuitive..and what not..
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: makes knowing when releases are EOL too ;)
[04:40] <theadmin> veku: I wouldn't say so.
[04:40] <veku> really?!
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> veku: you could always run a VM and see for yourself
[04:40] <veku> wouldn't that be slower..
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> veku: depends on config I guess
[04:41] <cfedde> most of the time "easier" means "more like something I already know"
[04:41] <theadmin> veku: Well, I'd say Gnome3 is counter-intuitive
[04:41] <veku> lol
[04:42] <veku> ActionParsnip: how do I run VM on ubuntu?
[04:42] <veku> theadmin: why do you say so?
[04:42] <theadmin> veku: Virtualbox
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> veku: could always take a partition image, install gnome3 then restore the image if desired
[04:42] <Axlin|MB> You could also dual-boot, if you wanted to run it natively
[04:42] <_aaron_> HeGuru, i knew i forgot something i forgot to bind it to the interface so how do i do that agian
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> veku: virtualbox is simple to use
[04:43] <veku> cool. how do I get virtualbox?
[04:43] <HeGuru> _aaron_: edit /etc/default/dhcp3-server
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> veku: its in the repos
[04:43] <bkdoor> sup
[04:43] <veku> might be easier than making partitions..hehe
[04:44] <veku> ActionParsnip: ah, I'm kinda new to Linux...so ..I don;t really konw where repos at..
[04:44] <overclucker> veku there are 2 versions available in the repos, virtualbox and virtualbox-ose, wither will do, the later is open source though
[04:44] <theadmin> !info virtualbox | veku
[04:44] <theadmin> Oops.
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> veku: install it like you would any other software
[04:44] <theadmin> !find virtualbox
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> !info virtualbox-ose
[04:45] <theadmin> Wow, virtualbox OSE is out-of-date
[04:45] <veku> ok
[04:45] <theadmin> Huh, 4.0.4... They just forgot to rename the package did they
[04:45] <veku> so I have to d/l it?
[04:45] <theadmin> veku: apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> veku: yes, use software centre
[04:45] <HeGuru> veku: you might want to download from virtualbox.org they have ubuntu packages and are up to date
[04:45] <veku> ok
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: needs sudo, users can't install packages
[04:45] <veku> oh
[04:46] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: sudo or su or sudo -i or... Let the users decide ;)
[04:47] <veku> ok..so I'm on their website..
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: either way, it wasn't part of your command, so the user will get an error
[04:47] <veku> which one whould I get..i386 or AMD64?
[04:47] <gugugaga> how to change my internet connection dns ip address and make it permanent ?
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> veku: you don't need the site, you need the software centre
[04:47] <veku> my OS is 64 bit
[04:47] <veku> oh
[04:47] <veku> how do I get there..
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> veku: I did say TWICE....
[04:48] <theadmin> veku: Bah, it's in the applications menu
[04:48] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Well, I think it's rather intuitive that a package manager is to be run as root.
[04:48] <jukebox-zero> So, I guess this might be a little odd. I'm compiling mplayer from source for the second time, doing it this time because I didn't like how the installation done by make install doesn't show up on either aptitude or apt-get, synaptic, etc. This time I'll be using checkinstall. My question is, I could pass something like --pkgversion="1:$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M)-git" to check install, but do I have to? And since aptitude and apt-
[04:48] <jukebox-zero> get, etc will recognize the package, do I have to worry about it being a candidate for upgrades, or in this case downgrades? Also will aptitude recognize it as satisfying dependancies?
[04:48] <veku> sorry someone was saying they have updated one on the website thats why..
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> veku: press Windows key and type: software
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> veku: the app will show
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> jukebox-zero: you can use apt-pin to prevent it updating
[04:49] <theadmin> jukebox-zero: Yes, just make sure it has the same name. It won't downgrade, APT keeps the most up-to-date version.
[04:50] <veku> well nothing happenes if I press windows key...but if I type software..a software update window pops up!
[04:50] <gugugaga> who knows how to change my internet connection dns ip address and make it permanent ?
[04:50] <jukebox-zero> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[04:50] <theadmin> gugugaga: /etc/resolv.conf.
[04:50] <gugugaga> that's temporary
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> veku: or in the applications menus etc you'll find it. You can also run: gksudo software-center
[04:50] <jukebox-zero> theadmin: Just the same mplayer pkg name or the same version as what's in repos?
[04:50] <gugugaga> i can't seems to save it and make it permanent
[04:51] <theadmin> jukebox-zero: Just the name
[04:51] <urlin2u> gugugaga, I use openDNS and set it static in my router
[04:51] <gugugaga> each restart will bring in my isp default dns
[04:51] <jukebox-zero> theadmin: Thanks, cheers.
[04:51] <theadmin> gugugaga: Do you use NetworkManager?
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> gugugaga: set it in network manager
[04:51] <veku> ok so the Terminal is telling me 'gksudo' is not installed..
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> veku: are you using Kubuntu?
[04:52] <veku> yes
[04:52] <gugugaga> does it comes with ubuntu or required installation ?
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> veku: then use:  kdesu software-center
[04:52] <theadmin> veku: Bah, open a terminal and run this: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> gugugaga: yes its the gui thing you configure your network with
[04:52] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I don't think KDE editions come with the software center, with it being a Gtk app and all. Or am I wrong?
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: probably easier
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: not sure, I've not used KDE in AGES
[04:53] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Goood :D
[04:53] <overclucker> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> veku: you can use: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose    as theadmin said, and install in a terminal. Be sure to close software centre
[04:54] <KM0201> i'd rather install the non-free vbox.. seems to have better usb support
[04:54] <veku> yes..I'm doind exactly that!
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: its just to try gnome3
[04:54] <veku> almost done.
[04:54] <KM0201> ohok
[04:55] <r3m> veku: you can use: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose as theadmin said, and install in a terminal. Be sure to close software centre
[04:55] <HeGuru> KM0201: there isn't a non-free version anymore, just one oss version with non-free USB support available as installable package
[04:55] <veku> yeah, I don't think I have a software center though..
[04:55] <KM0201> HeGuru: hmm, well i just always use the version from vbox.org.. :)
[04:56] <gugugaga> where is the network manager ?
[04:56] <r3m> veku: you can use: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose as theadmin said, and install in a terminal. Be sure to close software centre
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> gugugaga: its the little network icon on the panel
[04:56] <theadmin> r3m: There is no need to repeat twice :D
[04:56] <gugugaga> the one with up and down arrow key ?
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> gugugaga: yes
[04:57] <JokesOnYou77> hi all
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> gugugaga: set the interface to dhcp (address only) and you can specify DNS manually there
[04:57] <gugugaga> i click on it dsl edit
[04:57] <veku> oh and also..how do I get Compiz fusion guys?
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> veku: its already installed
[04:58] <veku> wha!?
[04:58] <veku> hmm
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> veku: 2 words:  de-fault
[04:58] <veku> so I nned to cnfig settings? where?
[04:58] <gugugaga> actionparsnip , i dont see any option that allowed me to do that
[04:58] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: That's one word.
[04:59] <JokesOnYou77> if I wrote a basic xsession file do i need to use chmod on it before it will work properly? And, if so, which chmod numbe, 700?
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> gugugaga: under the interface type tab (wired, wireless etc) you will see your connection. Click edit then click IPv4 settings
[04:59] <veku> is it 'desktop effects' under settings?!
[04:59] <urlin2u> veku, not available in natty as a woking app, but there is another called displex that does the same and more  http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/sfnet_displex/releases/
[05:00] <gugugaga> actionparsnip , it shows manual , pppoe , pppoe address only
[05:01] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: I think 744 would suffice, but yeah, you can use 700 in case you're paranoid
[05:02] <RealEyes> hello all you ubuntu losers!
[05:02] <RealEyes> lets see some conky setups!
[05:02] <RealEyes> screenshots! dotfiles!
[05:02] <theadmin> RealEyes: Offtopic.
[05:02] <Corey> RealEyes: Did you have a support question?
[05:02] <theadmin> RealEyes: Please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:02] <theadmin> !
[05:02] <theadmin> Oops
[05:02] <theadmin> !offtopic | RealEyes
[05:03] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: Thanks.  I honestly don't know the difference. I have a tutorial that's recommending "chmod +x ~/.xinitrc" and that somehow didn't seem right
[05:04] <Corey> Why would a config file ever need to be executable?
[05:04] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: 1 = execute, 2 = write, 4 = read. Sum them up and you'll see what other numbers mean, i.e 7 = 4+2+1 = full access
[05:04] <RealEyes> lol
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> RealEyes: there are hundreds of configs with examples dude
[05:04] <JokesOnYou77> and what
[05:04] <JokesOnYou77> what's +x ?
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> RealEyes: good conky setups use a bit more than just a config file
[05:04] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: Add executable right
[05:04] <JokesOnYou77> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[05:05] <JokesOnYou77> ahhh, thank you :)
[05:05] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: Another notation of 700 would be: u=rwx,g=,o=
[05:05] <JokesOnYou77> user=read wright, execute ?
[05:06] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: Yep, others - nothing, so just empty space
[05:07] <JokesOnYou77> cool
[05:08] <Beav3r> Does anyone know why I would hang at the purple spash screen on boot after re-installing 11.04?
[05:08] <firman_> :
[05:09] <RealEyes> ActionParsnip: Im on Arch ;D
[05:09] <RealEyes> and uh, I just wanted to see some others
[05:10] <overclucker> my conky displays irc messages
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> RealEyes: then your OS is offtopic here
[05:10] <RealEyes> lawl
[05:11] <maxagaz> hi
[05:11] <blackhat> hai
[05:11] <seclm193> how do i go about installing the banshee beta?  i added the ppa already
[05:11] <IdleOne> RealEyes: coming into the channel with "hello all you ubuntu losers!" was your first mistake. Second mistake is being off topic.
[05:12] <maxagaz> how to reinitialize sound preferences opn my computer, set it exactly how it was during the install on maverick
[05:12] <maxagaz>  ?
[05:12] <RealEyes> aorry
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> seclm193: then run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:12] <RealEyes> sorry
[05:12] <RealEyes> i started with ubuntu
[05:12] <wrekt> hey. does anyone know how to input a "command" when adding an action in the keyboard shortcuts? the help document is not clear what it means to put in a command.
[05:12] <seclm193> ActionParsnip, i tried that but it doesn't show an update for banshee
[05:12] <wrekt> (such as "launch totem etc)
[05:12] <maxagaz> my microphone doesn't work (but it works on other machines)
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> seclm193: check the ppa contents on launchpad, it may be a different package name
[05:13] <ashickur-noor> I use ailurus for this
[05:13] <maxagaz> I tried to fix it using alsamixer, but nothing works
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> maxagaz: does it work in sound recorder?
[05:13] <seclm193> ActionParsnip, it shows the Package as banshee
[05:13] <Beav3r> I'm having an issue booting. I hang at the purple spash screen. No HDD activity, esc takes me to a black screen.
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> seclm193: what is the PPA address please
[05:14] <ashickur-noor> @Beav3r Use left or right arrow key to see what is happening backword
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> Beav3r: log in to ubuntu classic desktop and get 3D acceslleration sorted (if possible)
[05:15] <JokesOnYou77> ok, I just wrote a custom xinitrc file but startx fails unless i run it as root.  What did I do wrong?
[05:15] <seclm193> ppa:banshee-team/banshee-unstable
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> JokesOnYou77: do users have execute / read rights
[05:15] <linuxuz3r_> sup
[05:16] <_aaron_> HeGuru, my eth0 isn't in my ifstate
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> seclm193: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --reinstall install banshee banshee-community-extensions     should do it
[05:17] <Beav3r> How do I go about logging into the classic desktop and sortin out 3d acceleration? Also, this was working fine approx 1 hr ago.
[05:17] <seclm193> ActionParsnip, thx i'll try it
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> Beav3r: you select the session on the login screen
[05:18] <JokesOnYou77> I just ran chmod 700 on it as root, exited and tried startx again as a user and now i've got a blank screen :/
[05:18] <seclm193> ActionParsnip, trying it now
[05:18] <Beav3r> I'm not getting that far. This is right after POST. I just tried booting to recovery where it freezes at Loading Initial ramdisk.
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> JokesOnYou77: then only the user has any access at all, if users need access you will need to give more access
[05:19] <JokesOnYou77> How?
[05:19] <_aaron_> how do i check to see if my network card is installed via terminal
[05:20] <seclm193> ActionParsnip, i'm getting "Reinstallation of banshee is not possible, it cannot be downloaded"
[05:20] <DonaldKeyz>  _aaron_ lspci
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> JokesOnYou77: use chmod to give more access, where is the file located and I'll check mine for you
[05:21] <HeGuru> _aaron_: ip link
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> seclm193: strange, if you run:  apt-cache policy banshee    do you see the ppa?
[05:22] <JokesOnYou77> chmod 777?
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> JokesOnYou77: where is the file please?
[05:22] <MagicJ> I have connected an ELO touch screen to a 10.4 system - the horizontal mouse moves correctly, vertical is sort of upside down - moving my finger up moves the mouse pointer down - any ideas?
[05:23] <seclm193> ActionParsnip, i see it, let me try to install it again, i just purged removed it
[05:23] <_aaron_> HeGuru, i don't understand
[05:23] <JokesOnYou77> ~/.xinitrc
[05:23] <HeGuru> _aaron_: run ip link to get list of network cards
[05:23] <wrekt> (btw is it recommended/superflous to upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04?)
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> JokesOnYou77: hmm, I don't have the file myself
[05:24] <seclm193> ActionParsnip, was kinda weird, but it's downloading and installing 2.1 now.  just needed to apt-get --purge remove banshee
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> wrekt: you will need to upgrade to Maverick first
[05:24] <_aaron_> HeGuru, ok i have the info that it says now what
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> seclm193: the wonders of PPAs
[05:24] <JokesOnYou77> I'm making a custom cli install in a VirtualBox for a friend. It's not a standard file
[05:24] <seanmc98> !test
[05:25] <HeGuru> _aaron_: do you see your interface? eth0 etc.? if yes then your network card is installed
[05:25] <JokesOnYou77> ActionParsnip: This is the tutorial i've been using: http://xwinman.org/basics.php
[05:25] <_aaron_> HeGuru, yes ok but how to I bind that to my dhcp server
[05:26] <JokesOnYou77> What's the apt command for reinstall?
[05:26] <JokesOnYou77> I think I might just need to reinstall Xorg and it's dependants
[05:26] <seclm193> JokesOnYou77, sudo apt-get --reinstall install whatever
[05:26] <seclm193> JokesOnYou77, I believe
[05:26] <maestrojed> I formatted a new harddrive with gparted. I can't write to the drive because of permissions. looks like the drive is owned by root. I log in as maestrojed. How can I fix this?
[05:26] <HeGuru> _aaron_: you have to add it to /etc/default/dhcp3-server
[05:26] <JokesOnYou77> thak you
[05:27] <seclm193> JokesOnYou77, if that don't work just run sudo apt-get --purge remove whatever , then sudo apt-get install whatever
[05:27] <seclm193> JokesOnYou77, it redownloads the files
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> maestrojed: is the partition you created on an internal drive?
[05:28] <spo0kz> I created a 2.93gb truecrypt volume on /dev/sda which is labelled /dev/sda5.  I basically didnt know what this 2.9gb was doing free in the first place bgut went ahead anyway, now i can access it because the system is already using it. cant delete it either now cos the system is using it right, must be a config file somwhere that is pointing to it to be used in ubuntu , maybe it was the swap partition or som shiznit,  any
[05:28] <spo0kz>  thoughts ?
[05:28] <maestrojed> ActionParsnip, yes
[05:28] <rickjaruiz> hello
[05:28] <Beever> I'm now getting a Hardware Error Check Machine Events Log.
[05:28] <wrekt> ActionParsnip, in your opinion would i gain from going 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04 or is it very much similar to 10.04 LTS?
[05:28] <JokesOnYou77> maestrojed: it has to do with how you have the partitions set to be mounted.  Are they ntfs?
[05:29] <rickjaruiz> ubuntu on hyper-v, anyone? :)
[05:29] <_aaron_> HeGuru, no subnet decloration for eth0
[05:29] <th0r> spo0kz: that might have been your swap partition
[05:30] <erickj92> Hello. I just installed ubuntu and edited my xorg config file (This is it: http://pastebin.com/zTrr9Kwg ). I can't get my second monitor working and it says "Unkown" for the first one when in the Monitor settings. I have ubuntu 11.04 and a nVidia 9800 GT graphics card.
[05:30] <spo0kz> th0r: obviously im running fine without the swap, is there anyway i can stop the system using it temporarily  ?
[05:31] <maestrojed> ActionParsnip, how can I fix it? In gparted? Reformat?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> wrekt: your question seems muddled. If you want to get natty then you MUST upgrade to Maverick (10.10) first. The Natty and Lucid desktop support is EOL on the same day so is the same in that respect
[05:31] <th0r> spo0kz: I think it is 'sudo swapoff', but not sure
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> maestrojed: then you should add an entry in /etc/fstab to mount it as user writable
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> maestrojed: it will also make it mount at boot
[05:32] <JokesOnYou77> If I run sudo startx does it mean I'm running the entire session as root?
[05:32] <rufsketch1> Hello everyone
[05:32] <Goku283> Heya
[05:32] <rufsketch1> I'm trying to access the files on my windows machine from linux
[05:32] <spo0kz> th0r: thx thats put me on the right track
[05:32] <rufsketch1> But smb:/// doesn't even see the machine on the network
[05:33] <maestrojed> ActionParsnip,  I don't want to boot to it. Just write to it. I should mention this is a 3tb drive so it have to be a gpt partition table table
[05:33] <rufsketch1> My PS3 does though
[05:33] <maestrojed> ActionParsnip, I will poke around that file. Thx
[05:33] <rufsketch1> how can I set it up
[05:33] <rufsketch1> none of the howto's have been very helpful
[05:33] <Goku283> Trying to connect through a home network?
[05:33] <rufsketch1> Goku283 yes
[05:34] <Goku283> Can you ping the IP address of the windows machine ?
[05:34] <erickj92> Hello. I just installed ubuntu and edited my xorg config file (This is it: http://pastebin.com/zTrr9Kwg ). I can't get my second monitor working and it says "Unkown" for the first one when in the Monitor settings. I have ubuntu 11.04 and a nVidia 9800 GT graphics card. Thanks in advance for any help. :)
[05:34] <rufsketch1> oh
[05:34] <rufsketch1> wait
[05:34] <rufsketch1> bnevermind
[05:34] <rufsketch1> I got it :D
[05:34] <FloodBot1> rufsketch1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:34] <Goku283> ;)
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> maestrojed: yes you will still need to set accesses
[05:34] <Goku283> easy eh ?
[05:34] <Goku283> lol
[05:34] <rufsketch1> smb:///(IP address) works
[05:34] <Goku283> good job
[05:34] <rufsketch1> though none of the guides say to do anything like that
[05:34] <wrekt> ActionParsnip, ok thnx if they are the same EOL i dont think thers an advantage for me as im nervous my setup might not remain intact through an upgrade so ill stick with this version as long as i can.
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> rufsketch1: if you add an entry in /etc/hosts you can use the name you set
[05:35] <spo0kz> th0r: yes defo was the swap
[05:35] <Goku283> lol some one should make a new one
[05:35] <maestrojed> ActionParsnip, okay, I am looking at fstab right now but I don't know much about what I am seeing :)
[05:35] <HeGuru> erickj92: you have to use the nvidia X server settings software to configure your second monitor
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> wrekt: could go for a clean install. Feels like brand new (plus you'll not have old configs messing things up)
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> maestrojed: you'll find guides online
[05:37] <erickj92> HeGuru, I can't seem to turn up any programs on Google. Is it a manual thing I must do?
[05:37] <erickj92> Oh wait.. it's in my apps heh
[05:38] <erickj92> HeGuru, thanks :) I think that'll do it! Really appreciate it!
[05:38] <i5noc> !openstack
[05:38] <i5noc> ?openstack
[05:38] <HeGuru> erickj92: welcome :)
[05:38] <i5noc> ! openstack
[05:38] <_aaron_> HeGuru, no subnet decloration for eth0 but yet i have added it to the /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server
[05:39] <i5noc> !compile
[05:39] <i5noc> ah ok
[05:39] <FloodBot1> i5noc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:39] <i5noc> shush FloodBot1
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> i5noc: think about what you just wrote...
[05:39] <erickj92> Now if some one could tell me how to enable Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart X I'd be in business ;)
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> erickj92: its in keyboard layouts
[05:39] <theadmin> erickj92: There's no need. Use Alt+PrtSc+K
[05:40] <erickj92> Ok guys, thanks a ton! :D
[05:41] <Goku283> What does alt prnt scre and K do?
[05:41] <theadmin> Goku283: Restart X.
[05:41] <Goku283> restart the machine or just the session ?
[05:41] <theadmin> Goku283: Actually, kill all processes in the current TTY, but... Acts the same when X running
[05:42] <Goku283> Ah k
[05:42] <Goku283> tks
[05:42] <i5noc> ActionParsnip, o i thought first
[05:43] <_aaron_> ActionParsnip, I am still having problems getting this DHCP server working just having problems binding it to eth0
[05:44] <i5noc> _aaron_,
[05:44] <i5noc> what method(s) have you used; what howto?
[05:44] <i5noc> whats the scenario?
[05:45] <_aaron_> i5noc, yes
 what method(s) have you used; what howto?; <i5noc> whats the scenario?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> _aaron_: http://johnlewis.ie/setup-dns-dhcp-and-content-filtering-using-dnsmasq-and-havp-in-ubuntu/   may help
[05:47] <i5noc> that's a really great howto
[05:47] <Goku283> Hey guys, i got myslef banned or something from ##linux channel. I made silly comments during a serious discussion i think? how do i get myself back into the channel and be able to talk again ?
[05:47] <i5noc> you ask in a channel that has to do with the NETWORK not another random channel
[05:47] <i5noc> i.e. try #freenode
[05:47] <i5noc> they will then tell you they have no control over channel politics and your SOL
[05:47] <i5noc> THEN youll want to review your logs and mssg the person who banned you and apologies
[05:48] <_aaron_> i5noc, no subnet decloration for eth0,  and now the server wont start isc-dhcp-server
[05:48] <i5noc> s/apologies/apologize
[05:48] <Goku283> Ok, Thanks
[05:48] <i5noc> :)
[05:48] <Random832> Goku283: I last saw you simply leaving the channel with no indication of being banned
[05:48] <i5noc> @ _aaron_ i'll lay off as ActionParsnip is still active - less confusion ;)
[05:48] <Goku283> Yeh becuase i try to type and i press enter but it want let me post ?
[05:48] <Random832> unless you are saying you are banned under a different name
[05:48] <Random832> oh...
[05:48] <Goku283> i have been silenced...lol
[05:49] <Random832> maybe ##linux requires nicks to be registered
[05:49] <Goku283> i can still enter
[05:49] <i5noc> Random832, it does
[05:49] <Goku283> i was able to talk at one stage
[05:49] <_aaron_> i5noc, I can't do it his way my machine is offline and i'm just trying to make a simple intranet
[05:49] <i5noc> then ident to nickserve
[05:49] <Goku283> but then i got blocked or something i think
[05:49] <theadmin> Goku283: Identify yourself with NickServ.
[05:49] <i5noc> _aaron_, lessee
[05:49] <theadmin> !register | Goku283
[05:49] <i5noc> Goku283, first your not ident'd ^^
[05:50] <i5noc> _aaron_, ok machine is offline and you want it to hand out dhcp - that machine could not get online if you wanted it to?
[05:50] <Random832> if you were banned you couldn't join
[05:50] <theadmin> Random832: Depends on the style of ban, there is +b and +q
[05:50] <Goku283> Thanks
[05:50] <theadmin> Random832: With +q you just can't post
[05:51] <Goku283> I think i must of got +q
[05:51] <_aaron_> i5noc, no not likely
[05:51] <Random832> oh, i'm used to quiets showing up in the ban list
[05:51] <Random832> Goku283: there are only five entries in the quiet list and none of them are you
[05:52] <Goku283> Must be my nick then... tks for the advice guys
[05:52] <theadmin> Goku283: Again, register your nickname.
[05:52] <scoundrel50a> um, I have a problem, I had an update via update manageer just now, and went through the process, and it looked like there was a kernel update too, so it asked to reboot. My browser I use, is Google Chrome, which I had no problems with before the update, now, it crashes all the time, I can barely use it. Would anybody have any ideas why it would suddenly be like that.......I am running Ubuntu 10.10...when I restart it, ti keeps asking me if I
[05:52] <scoundrel50a>  want to restor back to what I last cloed but that is an error, I didnt have a problem with closing it before, but that restore keeps coming back all the time,  but I cant do anything because it keeps freezing...the version of Google Chrome I have is 13.0.782.112......
[05:52] <Random832> Goku283: make sure it is registered and identified
[05:52] <Goku283> Yeh ill do it later, im in no rush
[05:53] <theadmin> scoundrel50a: The old kernel should've been left over. Boot to it.
[05:54] <scoundrel50a> oh, I take it there is a problem after the update with Chrome then, yes?
[05:54] <wrekt> ActionParsnip, re" a clean install. I have the OS on its own partiton '/' but the home folder that contains all my applications and docs and so on would be lost... according to the help documentaion you are supposed to have a seperate /home partion but i dont think i have that :(
[05:54] <zykotick9> theadmin, i think it highly unlikely that a kernel update would mess with Chrome.
[05:55] <theadmin> zykotick9: Who knows, I had Firefox crash on a specific kernel, it just segfaulted
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> wrekt: then you can restore the data using your backups?
[05:55] <scoundrel50a> would a purge and reinstall possibly do the trick and get it to work?
[05:56] <wrekt> ActionParsnip, can i? i guess ill look into that now....
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> wrekt: sure you have a backup regime right..
[05:59] <scoundrel50a> would a a complete uninstall of Google Chrome and reinstall work, or would it be the same?
[05:59] <millertimek1a2m3> hey
[05:59] <millertimek1a2m3> if I'm running ubuntu in a vm on a host
[05:59] <Geodude> Google Chrome closing your session, too?
[05:59] <wrekt> ActionParsnip, actually i only backup some of my data (like spreadsheets and documents) regularly. my multimedia i backup every one in awhile onto external. but ive never backed up my home folder
[05:59] <scoundrel50a> and no, it just hangs on everything, and I have to shut it down
[05:59] <abel> is there any midiea convereter from any to any convereter?
[05:59] <millertimek1a2m3> and I want to server a webpage from within the ubuntu that is a guest (being run in the vm ware)
[06:00] <millertimek1a2m3> how do I visit the webpage that the virtual machine is servering from the host?
[06:00] <millertimek1a2m3> I would assume
[06:00] <millertimek1a2m3> localhost:<some port number>, but I've never done this so I'm not sure
[06:00] <theadmin> millertimek1a2m3: The virtual machine should have a 10.x.x.x style IP.
[06:00] <Mango-chan> hi
[06:00] <theadmin> millertimek1a2m3: Check the ifconfig
[06:00] <Mango-chan> i was wondering how do i use the at command to run something in one whole line?
[06:01] <Diaoer> what`s the webserver you used?
[06:01] <theadmin> Mango-chan: mplayer /usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Log-In.ogg | at 7:00
[06:01] <theadmin> Mango-chan: If that's what you mean
[06:01] <millertimek1a2m3> thanks man
[06:02] <Mango-chan> ah, thank you
[06:02] <Mango-chan> let me try that
[06:02] <SIFTU> Mango-chan: or if you want to run multiple commands seperate with &&
[06:03] <User123abc> I'm having an issue with my thinkpad t61 - the special "Thinkvantage" key, which should generate "XF86Launch1" generates nothing. If I run acpi_listen and xev they don't throw any events when it's pressed.
[06:03] <Mango-chan> theadmin: i tried that but it runs the first part immediately
[06:04] <theadmin> Mango-chan: Oh, hm...
[06:04] <theadmin> I'll be back soon.
[06:05] <Zopiac> Anyone use Ardour?
[06:06] <scoundrel50a> ok, ask again, if I uninstalled completely, and reinstalled would that work, or would it make no difference
[06:06] <wildbat1> anyone got the link of MiniCDs for 10.04.3 ?
[06:08] <wildbat1> or is there one ?
[06:09] <Riku_> i am currently using ubuntu natty & my  KB and external usb mouse tend to stop working... is there a fix?
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> wildbat1: there should be a minial ISO of about 10Mb
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> wildbat1: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso   32bit
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> wildbat1: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso   64bit
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> wildbat1: MD5 hashes are: 7b383bcf55f09b1bb7e6614ed6e67a0e   and     d260ca4ad6d0c81bf5cf38a63fa63b5b   respectively
[06:10] <Riku_> i already changed setting within opengl & changed the powerbtn script to fix the mouse
[06:10] <ajah> failed at installing packages from update manager , The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources. and this is from details section boot-repair boot-repair-common boot-repair-ubuntu clean-ubiquity-common google-chrome-beta ttf-symbol-replacement-wine1.3 wine1.3
[06:10] <chaospsychex> !topic
[06:10] <wildbat1> ActionParsnip: but  that's 10.04? not 10.04.3 right?
[06:11] <Kartagis> hi
[06:11] <Riku_> i even ran a rmmod & modprobe for the usb optical mouse
[06:11] <Riku_> doesnt work
[06:12] <Kartagis> there is a bash ccript I've written. can I use it as is if I add it to nautilus context menu?
[06:12] <Kartagis> script*
[06:13] <Riku_> root@Twilit-Castle:/home/riku# xinput list
[06:13] <Riku_> ⎡ Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
[06:13] <Riku_> ⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[06:13] <Riku_> ⎜   ↳ Microsoft Microsoft 3-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM)	id=6	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[06:13] <Riku_> ⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad              	id=8	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[06:13] <FloodBot1> Riku_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:13] <Riku_> ⎣ Virtual core keyboard                   	id=3	[master keyboard (2)]
[06:14] <Riku_> whoops sorry
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> wildbat1: once you get updated it will be 10.04.3
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> wildbat1: not sure what release those are to be honest
[06:14] <wildbat1> ActionParsnip: oh ~ okay~ then ~
[06:15] <wildbat1> ActionParsnip: thanks. ^^
[06:15] <SIFTU> Kartagis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NautilusScriptsHowto
[06:15] <Riku_> why are you running 10.04.3 anyways??
[06:15] <SIFTU> Riku_: it's the LTS release
[06:15] <Kartagis> thanks SIFTU
[06:15] <Riku_> ah ok... makes since
[06:15] <uRock> sense
[06:16] <Riku_> i installed straight copy of 11.04
[06:16] <Riku_> i know rock.. thanks for the catch
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> Riku_: natty server is eol waaaay before lucid is ;)
[06:16] <wrekt> ActionParsnip, would this scheme work: create a backup of /home. reformat my /dev/sda so there is an additional partition for /home. then install 11.04 on the / partition? and then somehow place the backup copy of /home into the new /home partion once 11.04 is on / ?
[06:17] <Riku_> really?? wow
[06:17] <scoundrel50a> ok, its not Google chrome, its something in the update that is conflicting with google chrome, i have gone back one kernel and it works ok
[06:17] <scoundrel50a> so the update has broken google chrome
[06:17] <uRock> silly question, when running Windows Server 2008 in an ubuntu vbox, how does one hit Ctrl+Alt+Del to log on?
[06:17] <riddler> how do i make ubuntu the default loader in boot so i dont have to press the arrow to select it
[06:18] <Riku_> i hate and like natty at the same time.... very much laggy though
[06:18] <Random832> uRock: there should be a menu item
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> scoundrel50a: if you rename your chrome settings folder, does it work with vanilla settings
[06:18] <uRock> natty is awesome
[06:18] <Random832> i think host key [i.e. right ctrl] + del does it to
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Riku_: runs great here (but I use LXDE + openbox)
[06:18] <uRock> thanx Random832 will give it a shot
[06:18] <scoundrel50a> ActionParsnip:how do I do that, and I will have to go back into the new Kernel to try
[06:18] <wildbat1> natty is too buggy :> i am going back to 10.04 :>
[06:18] <Riku_> i just wish that my usb optical mouse would work
[06:19] <abel> i coudnt install handbrake please?
[06:19] <uRock> abel, how did you go about it?
[06:19] <Riku_> parsnip: nice... your system is probably newer than mine too.. i cant even run unity due to my hardware
[06:20] <Riku_> abel: which ubuntu are you isng?
[06:20] <Riku_> *using
[06:20] <abel>  uROCK:i ws trying to add to my resource list frop ppa but still i coudnt
[06:20] <abel> Riku:10.04
[06:20] <Riku_> ok
[06:21] <Riku_> try... sudo add-apt-repository ppa:stebbins/handbrake-snapshots
[06:21] <Kartagis> SIFTU: that means it works :)
[06:21] <Riku_> then update
[06:21] <scoundrel50a> ActionParsnip: ok thanks any way
[06:21] <SIFTU> Kartagis: cool :)
[06:21] <FriGiN> i'm in a pickle. im not sure where to start so i'll try to explain what happened so i can find how ot fix it. Installed ubu 10.10 restarted. getting "grub rescue>" "cannot get c/h/s values" my search (mind you i am on a cellphone connx at just over 56k) shows that i gotta get into nix and do a fdisk mod.. per http://bit.ly/oyxp5m .. as im using my thumb drive to try to get into ubu its stopping mid load first time it stops if i touch a
[06:21] <Riku_> able: read this... http://crackednoodle.blogspot.com/2010/06/install-handbrake-on-ubuntu-1004.html
[06:22] <Kartagis> !grub2
[06:22] <Kartagis> FriGiN: ^^
[06:22] <Riku_> lol
[06:22] <FriGiN> Kartagis: ikr?
[06:22] <Kartagis> what's ikr?
[06:22] <abel> Riku_: it give an erro with "Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots: <urlopen error [Errno 111] Connection refused>
[06:22] <uRock> abel, I installed by running "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:stebbins/handbrake-releases" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install handbrake"
[06:23] <FriGiN> i know right.
[06:23] <FriGiN> the problem is that part of the hdd is ntfs.. im told that is whats failing me here.
[06:23] <abel> urock:it gives an error"Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots: <urlopen error [Errno 111] Connection refused>"when i try to do it?
[06:24] <urlin2u> FriGiN, who told or what told you it's failing?
[06:24] <uRock> abel, is your firewall blocking it?
[06:24] <FriGiN> about 3 webpages..
[06:25] <FriGiN> its the info i kept bumping into and they all suggest 1 of 2 things. format and retry, and i cant do that, or do the fdisk trick
[06:25] <abel> urock:idont thin so?
[06:26] <urlin2u> FriGiN, the fdisk is for identifying the partitions, here is what that is from. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[06:27] <abel> uRock:is there another midea converetr??
[06:28] <uRock> Random832 ftr I anded up having to use the on screen keybaord in the server to log in
[06:28] <FriGiN> urlin2u: like i said i cant boot live cd/usb
[06:29] <Random832> uRock: there was no ctrl alt del option in the menu?
[06:29] <zykotick9> abel, you could try winff which is a front end to ffmpeg as a media converter
[06:29] <FriGiN> urlin2u: for whatever reason it dies mid load
[06:29] <uRock> Random832 didn't see it
[06:29] <urlin2u> FriGiN, you installed by booting a cd or thumb, did you use a nomodeset option than?
[06:30] <uRock> abel, I use ffmpeg for conversion, handbrake for ripping baackups
[06:30] <brodul> Hi, where can I download the lastest x86 server edition kernel
[06:30] <brodul> ?
[06:30] <brodul> The generic one
[06:30] <FriGiN> its a thumbdrive no i i dont think i did nomodeset option
[06:31] <uRock> Random832, I found that option, thanx
[06:31] <abel> uRock:how can use ffmpeg?i think it is not graphical
[06:31] <uRock> abel, it is cli only
[06:31] <FriGiN> i used yumi multiboot itsgot backtrack5 ubu10,10 and ubu11.04
[06:32] <urlin2u> FriGiN, just to be sure here you have ant=y othe OS;s on the hd?
[06:32] <uRock> after installing from the USC, open a terminal and run "man ffmpeg" I am no pro with it
[06:32] <urlin2u> any other*
[06:32] <uRock> after installing from the USC, open a terminal and run "man ffmpeg" I am no pro with it abel
[06:32] <FriGiN> yes win7 32bit
[06:32] <zykotick9> abel, you could try winff which is a front end to ffmpeg as a media converter
[06:32] <FriGiN> not on THAT hdd.. but its installed on another hdd
[06:33] <urlin2u> FriGiN, did you happen to install from widows?
[06:33] <urlin2u> windows*
[06:34] <urlin2u> FriGiN, IE a wubi
[06:35] <abel> zykotick9:thanks it works now but is that smart i mean that converts to all kind of midea?
[06:35] <zykotick9> abel, anything ffmpeg can do - which is a lot
[06:37] <chaospsychex> how do i burn a disc without creating a checksum ?
[06:38] <urlin2u> gnomebaker i sfaster if that is what you want
[06:38] <chaospsychex> gnomebaker, disc burning program?
[06:38] <urlin2u> chaospsychex, yeah
[06:39] <chaospsychex> brasero says 'Burning Disc (100% Done) but its creating an image checksum. can i hit cancel and it will complete the disc or cancel everything ?
[06:40] <urlin2u> chaospsychex, don't know but the other I don't think does, it is way faster.
[06:40] <chaospsychex> i will install it after this disc is done
[06:41] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, there is a way to disable the md5 generation in brasero
[06:41] <chaospsychex> oh ok,i need to do that. takes forever
[06:41] <urlin2u> zykotick9, forgot about that. ;)
[06:42] <chaospsychex> takes almost as long as it takes to burn the disc
[06:43] <urlin2u> chaospsychex, in plugins in brasero
[06:43] <JoeR1> does anyone know the most recent kernel? (Google was very counter productive in this regard)
[06:44] <llutz_> JoeR1: general kernel? "telnet kernel.org 79"
[06:44] <fredrik_> I have a virtualbox problem. I have an XP installation and a usb unit with special usb drivers. Problem is that when I install the driver it can't find the unit. If I click on the USB Icon in lower right corner in VB I can see the unit (called numark omni control) and a bunch more usb controlers. But they are all greyed out.... Why?
[06:44] <urlin2u> JoeR1, mine in natty is 2.6.38-10 generic
[06:45] <Riku_> fredrik: did you install the add-ons??
[06:46] <JoeR1> looks like kernel.org is reporting a 3.0.2
[06:46] <fredrik_> Riku_, did you mean the guestaddons?
[06:46] <JoeR1> 3.0.1 I mean
[06:46] <fredrik_> Riku_, If so then yes
[06:47] <Riku_> fredrik: that plus there some extras with plugins
[06:47] <llutz_> JoeR1: yes, released two weeks ago
[06:48] <JoeR1> dang, that means I'll have to compile
[06:49] <Riku_> fredrik: did you install the other plugins required??
[06:49] <fredrik_> Riku_, que?
[06:49] <somsip> chaospsychex: I get this when the previous media has not been properly umounted. Did you just burn another disc previously?
[06:49] <ubontoo-us3r> what's the command line to edit grub2
[06:50] <llutz_> JoeR1: there is a daily kernel ppa, iirc
[06:51] <JoeR1> llutz perhaps but the source is already down so I may as well, lord knows I could use the practice
[06:51] <fredrik_> Riku_, What other plugins? Plugins to VB or plugins to the numark usb unit?
[06:51] <Riku_> all of it
[06:55] <JoeR1> llutz - my mistake, the source wasn't yet down but I shall still compile just for the heck of it
[06:55] <llutz_> JoeR1: if you think you have to, have fun
[06:56] <JoeR1> indeed, I do so love compiling . . . . NOT!
[06:59] <Nick-WI> hi all
[06:59] <JoeR1> hello
[06:59] <llutz_> JoeR1: idk, last kernel i compiled was 2.0.2somewhat. nope, i love different  things :)
[06:59] <Nick-WI> just wondering how to install 32 bit wine on ubuntu 64 bit help please
[07:00] <JoeR1> should be cannonical
[07:00] <Fwb> hey guys just managed to get ubuntu 10.10 working via vbox. but i need a ftp client any recomendations?
[07:00] <JoeR1> you can use the ubuntu software center
[07:00] <llutz_> Fwb: lftp
[07:00] <somsip> Fwb: filezilla
[07:00] <Nick-WI> >>JOeR1 THX
[07:00] <rww> Fwb: Places -> Connect to server
[07:00] <Fwb> ???
[07:00] <Fwb> filzils psge wont load
[07:01] <JoeR1> Nick-WI, no prob, just out of curiosity what are you wanting to run in wine?
[07:01] <Nick-WI> mp3tag
[07:01] <Riku_> Nick-WI: here.. http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-6425d16f19f5058ca4cb93961bdbd4265468dc61
 mp3tag
[07:02] <Fwb> i was trying to download latest firefox. is the mozilla site down?
[07:02] <Riku_> hopefully that helps
[07:02] <JoeR1> Nick-WI, I don't know exactly what you are trying to do but my distro of Ubuntu has built MP3 tag editing abilties that are quite nice
[07:02] <llutz_> Nick-WI: whats wrong with easytag or kid3?
[07:03] <Nick-WI> I just like mp3tag
[07:03] <Riku_> Nick-WI: here.. http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-6425d16f19f5058ca4cb93961bdbd4265468dc61 <--- for wine32 to 64bit
[07:03] <Nick-WI> nothing wrong with other
[07:03] <JoeR1> Nick-WI, very well, enjoy
[07:03] <Nick-WI> :)
[07:04] <Fwb> :( i cant get any ftp clients working
[07:04] <Nick-WI> thx all of you, i going to tray
[07:04] <Nick-WI> let all know
[07:04] <JoeR1> bext of luck Nicj
[07:04] <JoeR1> *nick
[07:05] <JoeR1> an, I suck at typing today
[07:06] <Fwb> we all do sometimes joel
[07:07] <JoeR1> Indeed, for example you called me Joel and there is no L in my name
[07:07] <llutz_> !tab
[07:08] <cliffton> hi
[07:08] <cliffton> i need help...
[07:08] <JoeR1> llo
[07:08] <JoeR1> Hello
[07:08] <JoeR1> that was a wireless fault
[07:08] <bleahhh> niggers
[07:08] <cliffton> i have an external hard drive, that i want ubuntu to mount as a drive, so i can use it with unetbooting, but ubuntu is seeing drive as a media device so unetbooting wont recognize it......?
[07:08] <chaospsychex> 0.0
[07:09] <cliffton> what do?
[07:09] <vindolin> is there a software way to disable a notebook keyboard? I'm using an usb keyboard at my desk and my cat loves to sleep on the notebook keyboard.. pressing all kinds of keys
[07:09] <Fwb> is someone able to help me get a ftp client working pleas
[07:09] <cliffton> i have an external hard drive, that i want ubuntu to mount as a drive, so i can use it with unetbooting, but ubuntu is seeing drive as a media device so unetbooting wont recognize it......?
[07:10] <JoeR1> cliffton I will have to cede to my colleagues I am not sure I know the answer to that one
[07:10] <theadmin> cliffton: There's no need to repeat.
[07:10] <Riku_> on occasion my KB will tend to lockup.. but now my usb optical mouse... idk what to say about that one
[07:11] <JoeR1> Vindolin - I think yes to question but let me check something real quick
[07:11] <Riku_> cliffton: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB <--- try this
[07:12] <cliffton> riku_ already there
[07:12] <Riku_> cliffton: ok good
[07:12] <cliffton> ok so automatic mount point is /media
[07:12] <Riku_> yes
[07:12] <cliffton> i want it to mount to /sda/xxx so unetbooting will see it
[07:13] <iceroot> cliffton: ?
[07:13] <cliffton> whoops mount to /dev/xxx
[07:13] <iceroot> cliffton: you cant mount TO /dev/xxx
[07:13] <cliffton> iceroot here i will repeat question
[07:13] <cliffton> i have an external hard drive, that i want ubuntu to mount as a drive, so i can use it with unetbooting, but ubuntu is seeing drive as a media device so unetbooting wont recognize it......?
[07:13] <Riku_> be careful though... you could end up bricking your drive
[07:14] <iceroot> cliffton: ubuntu will see the device as /dev/xxx and the partition as /media/xxx
[07:14] <iceroot> cliffton: mount or df -h will tell you the devicename of /media/foobar
[07:14] <cliffton> ok drive is empty maye your partition manager a?
[07:14] <JoeR1> vindolin, I seem to recall that you can do that but I just can't remember how right now
[07:15] <cliffton> sec
[07:15] <cliffton> "/dev/sdb1 on /media/babee cakes type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=1000)
[07:15] <cliffton> "
[07:15] <Riku_> cliffton: sudo apt-get install mountmanager
[07:16] <Riku_> install that
[07:16] <cliffton> babee cakes is my extrenal drive so the mount point is sdbq1?
[07:16] <cliffton> ok one sec
[07:16] <theadmin> cliffton: No, the mount point is /media/babee, /dev/sdb1 is the device file.
[07:16] <cliffton> ok installing now
[07:17] <cliffton> ok got it installed
[07:21] <nbubuntu> hi , I need help on android phone , using galaxy tab 7 inch and ubuntu 10.10 but i cannot connect with usb , ubuntu 10.10 doesn't show the drive
[07:21] <nbubuntu> thank you :)
[07:22] <Riku_> xinput list found my usb mouse.. but doesnt work
[07:22] <pingvinius> Greetings to all. The type program mailagent is necessary to me
[07:23] <pingvinius> for ubuntu
[07:23] <Riku_> maybe IRQPOLL perhaps
[07:23] <theadmin> Well winff is awesome, thanks to whoever suggested it here (not to me, just to someone) :D
[07:23] <lostvoices> hi guys im trtying to setup a static IP. when i  do and then go to connection information it sstill shows the dynamic ip. i wanted something like 192.169.0.42  but it chooses 192.168.0.3  what could stop it being static?
[07:24] <Riku_> pingvinius:: try EXIM
[07:24] <auronandace> pingvinius: sudo apt-get install mailagent
[07:24] <gadgetdevil> lostvoices, if you want a temporary solution run ifconfig <interface name> <ip address>
[07:25] <gadgetdevil> lostvoices: if you want a permanent solution you need to edit /etc/interfaces see here for how to do that: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-static-ip/
[07:25] <Halabund> Is there some photo viewer for ubuntu that can open photos fast, like Picasa on Windows?  The default one takes ~4 seconds to show each photo (with a progress bar...), and does not preload the next one.
[07:26] <Kaolen> lostvoices: To add to that, I seem to remember that I had an issue with a static IP address when I set up a Debian box. What I had to do was set it up with very verbose options in /etc/network/interfaces (gateway, mask etc) and then restart networking completely. /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:26] <shomon> hi, how can I get a more cutting edge version of bluefish than 2.0.1? I'm in ubuntu 10.10
[07:26] <lostvoices> Kaolen:  wow that sounds kinda harder :)
[07:27] <Kaolen> lostvoices: Perhaps, but it's the only way I know how to do it. Don't learn anything if you don't spend 3 hours trying every variation you can think of right?
[07:27] <Gitch> Hi all. I've got an issue with my desktop after upgrading to 11.04. I'm not using unity but using Ubuntu legacy. When I log on I see the Ubuntu look and feel, but after a relatively short time, it drops back to the horrible clunky gtk theme everywhere.
[07:27] <cyb3rjunkie> lostvoices: i suggest u: go tips.linux and learn Linux basics.
[07:28] <cyb3rjunkie> lostvoices: it's ubuntu centric. u will learn all in about 3 days
[07:28] <Gitch> feels like there are two conflicting theme managers both trying to run my desktop
[07:29] <zen_monkey> wich is the diference between file size and file size on disk? eg. one stands 5Mb and the second 12Mb
[07:29] <zen_monkey> for the same file
[07:30] <rabbi1> how to open .dwg file in 10.04  ?
[07:30] <iceroot> zen_monkey: a file is stored in sectors and a sector has a specific size
[07:31] <iceroot> zen_monkey: also there is a difference between MB and MiB
[07:31] <gadgetdevil> zen_monkey: file size represents the actual size of the file. Hard drives use something called a "block size" to address space on the drive. This block size is an indivisible unit, so even if you have a file that is less than the block size, you take up the entire block.
[07:31] <iceroot> zen_monkey: sorry, block instead of sector as gadgetdevil said
[07:32] <zen_monkey> iceroot, i understand the sector idea, but such a difference between both means disk fragmentation?
[07:32] <iceroot> zen_monkey: fragmentation has nothing to do with that
[07:33] <gadgetdevil> zen_monkey: You don't need to worry about fragmentation with Linux. Ext 2 & 3 don't need to be defraged like NTFS for Windows
[07:33] <devral> i just did an e2fsck on my (unmounted) ubu desktop installation from a liveCD. afterwards, it won't boot to the GUI, but services like SSH are running. help?
[07:33] <llutz_> gadgetdevil: stop spreading the myth of "ext won't fragment". it does fragment, not as vfat but still. in fact there are just no defrag-apps available
[07:34] <theadmin> llutz_: Nevertheless, it doesn't affect the performance... at least not noticeably
[07:34] <llutz_> theadmin: up to a certain percentage, right
[07:36] <zen_monkey> ok, so what causes the difference between the numbers? eg. Total file size 510 Mb and disk size 4.1 Gb...??
[07:36] <gadgetdevil> zen_monkey: where are you getting this information from? ls?
[07:36] <zen_monkey> even more fun... du -sch says 488Mb
[07:36] <Ubuntu1104User> hello
[07:36] <Ubuntu1104User> im 1104 i want to upgrade to 1110 how make upgrade 64
[07:36] <zen_monkey> right clic -> properties for the first two of them
[07:37] <mimi_> guys please coud you tell me how can i change with new login screen for my ubuntu 10.04?
[07:37] <m_rite> hey guys. any idea how to get a second keyboard running on my machine? i'm working with a friend who sits beside me. it would be cool if he could just use the second keyboard and type away
[07:37] <scarleo> I have a samba share (on suse) that announce on my lan, when trying to browse the announced share (on ubuntu) it says "Unable to connect", but if I add the location manually (connect to server) it works. Anyone knows what's going on??
[07:37] <Ubuntu1104User> m_rite, second machine
[07:37] <deployment> in windows the ntfs permissons can be set at one levela nd then pushed down to all files/folders and etccc inside.
[07:37] <gadgetdevil> m_rite: Synergy synergy-foss.org
[07:37] <devral> after doing an e2fsck on my ubu desktop installation (unmounted, from a liveCD), it gets stuck booting to GUI, but some services like SSH are running. any ideas?
[07:37] <theadmin> m_rite: You can't really use two keyboards *at the same time*.
[07:37] <deployment> can this be done with linux?
[07:37] <Ubuntu1104User> How to go 64bit
[07:38] <m_rite> hm
[07:38] <Ubuntu1104User> how to make ubuntu primary
[07:38] <theadmin> deployment: chmod -R
[07:38] <Ubuntu1104User> without cd
[07:38] <theadmin> deployment: Or chown -R
[07:38] <Ubuntu1104User> when i installed i did inside windows thing
[07:38] <Lasers> theadmin: Not even Bluetooth Keyboard? :)
[07:38] <Ubuntu1104User> so i get dualboot menu
[07:38] <gadgetdevil> It's called Synergy guys it is cross platform OSX, Windows, Linux, Unix and it's FOSS software. I use the package "quick-synergy" to easily configure it.
[07:38] <theadmin> Lasers: Hm, bluetooth and USB could work
[07:38] <Ubuntu1104User> lasers: no
[07:38] <Lasers> I'll give it a try!
[07:38] <Lasers> I have one! I'm testing it!
[07:38] <gadgetdevil> http://synergy-foss.org It's more awesome than a KVM
[07:39] <zen_monkey> gadgetdevil, file properties show 510Mb and 4.1Gb and du -sch 488Mb...
[07:39] <Ubuntu1104User> anyone help
[07:39] <theadmin> Lasers: If you type at two at the same time, won't there be random interference? Like if two keys are pressed on both keyboards at the same time, it'll get messy
[07:39] <Lasers> theadmin: I don't think he plan to use both keyboard at same time. Retard plan. I know.
[07:39] <dell> i inserted a usb...now how to know what file system that usb device is formatted to
[07:40] <theadmin> dell: sudo fdisk -l
[07:40] <devral> after doing an e2fsck on my ubu desktop installation (unmounted, from a liveCD), it gets stuck booting at starting cupsd
[07:40] <Ubuntu1104User> i love you too
[07:40] <Ubuntu1104User> sure ill get the picnic stuff
[07:40] <Ubuntu1104User> hehe its a panda eating a roof
[07:40] <Kaolen> zen_monkey: To answer part of that, could the difference shown in the size be the difference between using 1024 and 1000 when changing to Mb?
[07:40] <Ubuntu1104User> lalalalla
[07:41] <Ubuntu1104User> i got a secret its on the tip of my tongue on the back of my longues and im ganna keep it cuz i know something you don't know
[07:41] <Ubuntu1104User> hey guys i have 32bit 1104 i want to go 64bit 1110
[07:41] <Ubuntu1104User> how do so
[07:41] <zen_monkey> Kaolen, that can suit for 510 to 488... now i just have to understand that 4.1 Gb?
[07:41] <zen_monkey> :p
[07:41] <Kaolen> That... I'm not quite sure about XD
[07:42] <Ubuntu1104User> howmake 60mb of space
[07:42] <llutz_> !11.10 | Ubuntu1104User
[07:42] <theadmin> Ubuntu1104User: You must reinstall.
[07:42] <theadmin> Ubuntu1104User: There is no way to convert between 32- and 64-bit
[07:42] <mimi_> please tell me how can i change my login screen iam new to the ubuntu?
[07:42] <Ubuntu1104User> why not
[07:42] <Ubuntu1104User> fix it make it for me
[07:42] <devral> e2fsck screwed up my ubuntu desktop install. the boot process gets stuck at starting cupsd. help??
[07:43] <llutz_> Ubuntu1104User:  .. take your fish and troll away <°))))><
[07:43] <theadmin> Someone here needs a certain kind of hammer ;)
[07:43] <Kaolen> I was going to suggest something with rm and the root of the filesystem, and the -r and -f options.
[07:43] <zen_monkey> mimi_, http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-change-login-screen-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[07:43] <accel> besides cheese, what other webcam software comes with ubunnntu?
[07:44] <Lasers> theadmin: USB + BT Keyboard = Successful!
[07:44] <accel> I want to see if I can get real time ideo
[07:44] <accel> cheese is kinda slow
[07:44] <accel> giving me about 2fps
[07:44] <cyb3rjunkie> Ubuntu1104User : yo man just accept it is not possibel
[07:44] <cyb3rjunkie> u better ask linus torvalds
[07:45] <cyb3rjunkie> Kaolen: it would be great advice !!
[07:45] <theadmin> Kaolen: A less hardcore version is "kill -s SEGV 1" :D
[07:45] <Kaolen> Haha, I just didn't want to write that actual command out in case someone tried it without thinking (and as root).
[07:46] <scarleo> I have a samba share (on suse) that announce on my lan, when trying to browse the announced share (on ubuntu) it says "Unable to connect", but if I add the location manually (connect to server) it works. Anyone how I can fix that??
[07:46] <rww> fyi, posting dangerous commands in #ubuntu tends to get one banned.
[07:47] <cyb3rjunkie> Kaolen: i dont think newbs would have idea about root usr , but some Skids might try it with Sudo
[07:47] <devral> my ubuntu desktop GUI won't start. gets stuck at starting cupsd. doing startx in console gives me: Server is already active for display 0
[07:48] <Kaolen> All the same damage in the end. Though I like theadmin's idea, I might just shut down my boxes with that all the time.
[07:48] <Riku_> would IRQPOLL work for fixing usb mouse??
[07:49] <theadmin> Kaolen: That causes a kernel panic :D No real good for a shutdown
[07:50] <Riku_> devral: did you install the gnome-desktop?
[07:50] <dell> when i do "fdisk -l /dev/sdb" to know the format of my usb file system then it says "Cannot open /dev/sdb"
[07:51] <Kaolen> theadmin: That pushing the power button is extra work I suppose. Since half the time, the box isn't local.
[07:51] <devral> Riku_ the GUI works if i connect to the freenx-server that is running, so a GUI is installed, yes
[07:51] <mimi_> please tell me how can i change my login screen iam new to the ubuntu?
[07:51] <stix> Hi guys. Where can I find some docu about creating an Ubuntu template? I mean like a live-cd, that installs Ubuntu with my specific setup and packages I have selected to be installed.
[07:52] <devral> Riku_ the problem started after i did an e2fsck on the unmounted system disk from a livecd
[07:52] <wildbat1> !remaster | stix
[07:52] <Riku_> devral: best rec is just to re-install system
[07:53] <cyb3rjunkie> hi everyone, does any one know good overclocking tools for Ubuntu ?
[07:53] <Riku_> you broke your x11
[07:54] <suman> hi i just bought my new portable hardisk model :- PQI h566 500gb ... but its not recognized in my pc... can you please suggest a soultion
[07:54] <suman> all i can see is a light glowing in the device
[07:54] <stix> great thanks :)
[07:54] <devral> Riku_ is there an easy way to bring along all the services/programs? configs and /home are easy enough
[07:55] <Riku_> devral: not really... try fixing with vesa, if that doesnt work you need to rebuild
[07:56] <Cpt_Zyph> is it possable to install gnome 3 on ubuntu .. or are there major problems with that?
[07:56] <devral> Riku_ how do i try the vesa thing?
[07:56] <Riku_> x11 config
[07:56] <suman> hi can any one help me out with my problem
[07:56] <suman> please
[07:56] <devral> Riku_ /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[07:57] <Riku_> Cpt_Zyph: yes gnome 3 works fine on 11.04 along with unity.. just make sure your hardware supports it
[07:57] <suman> hi i just bought my new portable hardisk model :- PQI h566 500gb ... but its not recognized in my pc... can you please suggest a solution all i can see is a light glowing in the device
[07:57] <Riku_> devral: yes
[07:57] <frapinlap> does anyone know if my Epson RX580 printer is supported under 11.04? it's not even showing up under lsusb as a connected device
[07:57] <deployment> suman: can you see it in disk util or gparted?
[07:57] <devral> Riku_ that would explain the problem. "cat: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory"
[07:57] <jeep85> bonjour ici
[07:58] <rww> !gnome3 | Cpt_Zyph
[07:58] <rww> !fr | jeep85
[07:58] <Cpt_Zyph> Riku_ ok just making sure .. i use this laptop a ton but the gnome 3 is looking slick and figured it has been out long enough to give it a try.. and didn't want to go back to fedora.. im learning but want to limit my distro exposure till i learn more
[07:58] <Riku_> devral: there you go...
[07:58] <Cpt_Zyph> aa thank you bottu *)
[07:58] <frapinlap> heeeeeellllllllllllllppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[07:58] <Riku_> frapinlap: i am checking
[07:59] <suman> deployment: No i cant see my disk anywhere
[08:00] <urlin2u> frapinlap, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersEpson
[08:00] <frapinlap> i've checked the forums and it appears to have been supported at one time
[08:00] <Riku_> frapinlap: are you running 32 or 64-bit?
[08:01] <frapinlap> 32
[08:01] <frapinlap> i've tried installing the linux driver
[08:02] <frapinlap> but it only helps with the recognition over bluetooth
[08:02] <suman> hi my portable harddisk is not supported on the pc
[08:02] <suman> can any one please suggest any solution
[08:02] <suman> p.s:- its not visible on gparted as well
[08:03] <Kaolen> suman: Is this is a usb disk?
[08:03] <suman> yes its a USB PORTABLE HARDDISK PQI h566
[08:03] <suman> its a usb 3.0
[08:03] <suman> but i have usb 2.0 in my system
[08:04] <JoeR1> oh my god, this stupid readme for the 3.0 kernel actually says "Don't take the name root in vain" comments like that are why linux folk get made fun of
[08:04] <Kaolen> suman: I honestly don't know how that works out, I haven't had much exposure with USB 3.0. However, does anything relevant come up at the end of the 'dmesg' command? Something about "new USB device found" etc.
[08:05] <RenatoSilva> any plans for supporting gnome 3?
[08:06] <goofrider> hi all, can someone give me some tips of how to troubleshoot samba + openldap integration issue? Samba as users to change password every month but users can't change password (only sudo smbldap-passwd works)
[08:06] <rww> RenatoSilva: Ubuntu oneiric uses GNOME 3. Ubuntu 11.04's official repositories are sticking with GNOME 2, per our stable update policy.
[08:06] <suman> kaolen : this is the output after that commend http://pastebin.com/mX3MihBv
[08:08] <damnn> hi
[08:10] <m_rite> hey guys. any idea how to get a second keyboard running on my machine? i'm working with a friend who sits beside me. it would be cool if he could just use the second keyboard and type away
[08:11] <markskil1eck> m_rite: that is a cool idea (although I have no idea how to solve it)
[08:11] <goofrider> hi all, can someone give me some tips of how to troubleshoot samba + openldap integration issue? Samba as users to change password every month but users can't change password (only sudo smbldap-passwd works)
[08:11] <m_rite> markskil1eck: it's really cool. we used it on windows before and had a lot of fun with it :D
[08:11] <Kaolen> suman: If I am not mistaken, it doesn't look like the kernel even registers that you plugged anything in.
[08:11] <JoeR1> m_rite, well I could only offer advice that would have both working in the same field so I think this is not what you want
[08:12] <m_rite> JoeR1: what do you mean, field?
[08:12] <m_rite> the goal is to not have to go "wait a minute, let me just hand you over the keyboard" every time he wants to take control and type something
[08:13] <JoeR1> m_rite, it would be recieving input from both keyboards as if they were one
[08:13] <m_rite> JoeR1: yes, that's the plan
[08:13] <JoeR1> m_rite, have you tried pluggin them both in at the same time?
[08:13] <m_rite> they are
[08:13] <Kaolen> suman: Looks like all you have that is possibly relevant is "usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2". And at that point, I wouldn't know what to do.
[08:14] <JoeR1> m_rite, ok, one moment, This may take me a moment as i am currently compiling a new kernel
[08:14] <m_rite> JoeR1: ok
[08:15] <m_rite> JoeR1: can you give me a teaser to what your idea is?
[08:15] <Riku_> goofrider:  try this... http://books.google.com/books?id=gpbk66Y_s5sC&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=ubuntu+11.04+samba+with+openldap&source=bl&ots=rIAs8nIrtG&sig=eYkgYopqWYe0rSzV_CVoJ4C17IE&hl=en&ei=hiZKTsjQG8qUtweQicmjCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CFYQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q&f=false
[08:15] <rly> How am I supposed to get an adhoc network up and running on Ubuntu with an atheros chip?
[08:15] <zise> hi
[08:15] <rly> I followed instructions, and it does not work.
[08:15] <goofrider> thanks Riku_ , I'll take a look at it now
[08:15] <icesword> zise: hi where you from
[08:16] <Riku_> no prob
[08:16] <rly> That is, I shared the connection with other computers and I had no security settings configured.
[08:16] <rly> (to establish a base line)
[08:16] <rly> I do get: wlan0: No active IBSS STAs - trying to scan for other IBSS networks with same SSID (merge)
[08:16] <JoeR1> m-rite, sorry i was in the bathroom
[08:17] <RenatoSilva> rww: what's unity exactly, a gnome 2 app, a gnome 2 patch, a gnome 2 fork?
[08:17] <JoeR1> m_rite, I am going to plug a spar into my machine and see if I can remember how I did this before
[08:17] <goofrider> @ Riku_ , actually I;ve been through similar steps, I have gotten it all working over a yr ago (with no monthly password reset and user could change password). these 2 problems surfaced a few months ago.
[08:17] <m_rite> JoeR1: ok, awesome, thanks
[08:18] <goofrider> I just need some pointers as to how to narrow down the problem
[08:18] <JoeR1> m_rite, are both USB or is one PS/2?
[08:18] <rww> RenatoSilva: Unity in 11.04 is a plugin for Compiz that provides a shell as an alternative to GNOME Panel, GNOME Shell, etc.
[08:19] <rww> RenatoSilva: 11.04 runs it on top of GNOME 2. Oneiric runs it on top of GNOME 3.
[08:19] <m_rite> JoeR1: both identical USB
[08:19] <JoeR1> m_rite, are both plugged in right now?
[08:20] <m_rite> JoeR1: yes
[08:20] <RenatoSilva> rww: so it's a *compiz plugin*! and it just runs on top of gnome 2/3 as any regular gnome app. Ok, thanks for the info!
[08:20] <JoeR1> m_rite, can you give me a paste bin of lsusb?
[08:22] <m_rite> JoeR1: they're working now
[08:22] <JoeR1> very well
[08:22] <JoeR1> m_rite, well done
[08:22] <m_rite> JoeR1: i don't know why but they do. i replugged the second one and it works, awesome
[08:22] <m_rite> thanks JoeR1 :)
[08:23] <m_rite> plus: i now know the command lsusb :D
[08:23] <JoeR1> m_rite ls also has other uses
[08:23] <ziga_> hello
[08:23] <JoeR1> m_rite, I would look into it if I were you but enjoy your new found duplicity
[08:23] <ziga_> Can anyone help me? My sound stopped working in Xubuntu.
[08:24] <JoeR1> ziga_ I can try, I am running Xubuntu so we shall see if i am useful
[08:24] <m_rite> JoeR1: i will, thanks. I'm gonna reboot and see if it still works then
[08:24] <JoeR1> m_rite, ok good luck
[08:25] <ziga_> JoeR1 what can i do? It worked yesterday just fine
[08:25] <theadmin> ziga_: Have you tried looking at alsamixer, changing the master channel to PCM or Speaker, and such things?
[08:25] <JoeR1> ziga_ do you still have the volume control on your panel?
[08:26] <Riku_> man... i am falling asleep & i cant even fix my own problem
[08:26] <ziga_> i have no volume panel on my panel it is gone
[08:26] <szal> !sound | ziga_
[08:26] <ziga_> i ll probably have to do something in terminal
[08:27] <ziga_> here is my alsamixwr comand output:
[08:27] <ziga_> Card: HDA ATI SB                                                                                                                               F1:  Help               │
[08:27] <ziga_> │ Chip: Realtek ALC270                                                                                                                           F2:  System information │
[08:27] <ziga_> │ View: F3:[Playback] F4: Capture  F5: All                                                                                                       F6:  Select sound card  │
[08:27] <ziga_> │ Item:
[08:27] <JoeR1> ziga_ indeed, one moment please, also i was in the other window you opened
[08:27] <FloodBot1> ziga_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:27] <JoeR1> ziga_, try to use pastebin for that
[08:28] <ziga_> joe i am now in a sepparate window :)
[08:28] <ziga_> come there
[08:28] <ziga_> please :)
[08:28] <szal> !paste | ziga_
[08:28] <szal> ziga_: and stay in the channel so that others might benefit from the help you get as well
[08:29] <llutz_> juhu
[08:29] <llutz_> oops, sry
[08:30] <skpl_> !pastebinit
[08:31] <DiMOH> papya
[08:32] <DiMOH> helps
[08:32] <DiMOH> help
[08:32] <DiMOH> --help
[08:32] <dumbo88> !help
[08:32] <DiMOH> !help
[08:32] <DiMOH> phahaha
[08:33] <dumbo88> !wabu
[08:37] <zi> Rewrites don't work, when I've got allowoverride all to /, a2enmod rewrite and the .htaccess itself, what else could be wrong?
[08:39] <RenaKunisaki> what's the shortcut key to pause the process in a terminal again?
[08:39] <iceroot> RenaKunisaki: ctrl + z
[08:39] <RenaKunisaki> ah thanks
[08:39] <theadmin> RenaKunisaki: To bring it back up, "fg jobid"
[08:40] <theadmin> RenaKunisaki: Where "jobid" is the number you should get when you suspend iirc
[08:40] <RenaKunisaki> right
[08:40] <davidmorris> or fg with no arguments if it's the most recent paused process
[08:41] <Guest3258> Hey all, How do I get into the Wine chat room?
[08:41] <auronandace> Guest3258: /join #winehq
[08:41] <theadmin> Guest3258: /join #winehq
[08:42] <theadmin> auronandace: Y U FASTER THAN ME?
[08:42] <theadmin> auronandace: never mind xD
[08:42] <Guest3258> Thanks men! :D
[08:42] <auronandace> :)
[08:44] <SpiderFred> hi how to start visible terminal running specific command ater starting my X? I added urxvt to my xinitrc and it opens terminal but I have no idea how to also run command
[08:45] <davidmorris> man urxvt, there's probably an argument as to what command it will run?
[08:45] <BlueWolf> auronandace: I have downloaded the firefox package in my downloads, how do I install it. Whats the best way?
[08:45] <Guest58033> any one tried Oza Unity
[08:45] <Guest58033> sorry Oz Unity
[08:45] <theadmin> BlueWolf: Is it the tarball? Or the .deb?
[08:46] <SpiderFred> davidmorris: I take a look at it
[08:46] <BlueWolf> theadmin: firefox-5.0.1.tar.bz2
[08:46] <cousin_mario> hello
[08:46] <urlin2u> Guest58033, looks like atweaked netbook version
[08:46] <cousin_mario> will FF6 be available on natty anytime soon?
[08:47] <davidmorris> BlueWolf: get the .deb, and it will install on double-clicking.
[08:47] <Guest58033> yes OzuNITY ROCKS
[08:47] <auronandace> BlueWolf: firefox 5 is already in the repos if you are using natty
[08:47] <theadmin> BlueWolf: Unpack it to any folder.
[08:47] <theadmin> BlueWolf: Run the "firefox" file located in there
[08:47] <auronandace> !info firefox | BlueWolf
[08:47] <urlin2u> cousin_mario, it is in a ppa
[08:48] <cousin_mario> urlin2u: do you think it will be included in the official repositories?
[08:48] <auronandace> !packages | BlueWolf
[08:48] <urlin2u> cousin_mario, I don't know.
[08:49] <theadmin> 30 thousand? I somehow thought it actually had around 90 thousand...
[08:50] <auronandace> theadmin: not sure how uptodate that factoid is regarding amount of packages
[08:51] <urlin2u> cousin_mario, here is a link to the ppa and how to set it up http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/mozilla_team_firefox_next?dist=maverick
[08:51] <kaellan> how do i find what swap partetition is being used ?
[08:52] <urlin2u> kaellan, you only need one
[08:52] <triunity> How does one change from LibreOffice to OpenOffice?  I installed it from USC, but it never showed up...  And it says you launch it from libreoffice, which doesn't make sense...
[08:52] <BlueWolf> theadmin: I double clicked on the firefox, it update but did not install?
[08:53] <theadmin> BlueWolf: Sorry, I think you misunderstand the fact that this package is *not* an Ubuntu package, and thus will *not* integrate with Ubuntu menus and other things without special street magic
[08:53] <kaellan> urlin2u: im deleting he backtrack partition and a old ubuntu partiion so now i need t know what one of the swap partitions im using for this instal of ubuntu
[08:53] <urlin2u> triunity, you would have to wipe libre and download from open office, libre is ahead of open office now thgough.
[08:53] <darkset> hi... I have problem. I can't install any ubuntu (dvd or live cd) , becouse when i start installer, and chose language, keyboard... get info theh cdrom coould not be find and mounted. I check logs and i think its problem of i82365 module becouse it dont load
[08:54] <urlin2u> kaellan, the swap isn't important for installs, delete all and make a new one with the new partitioning for the install.
[08:54] <cousin_mario> urlin2u: thanks, but I'd rather not use an unofficial package for such a critical task
[08:55] <triunity> Yea, but libre base has serious issues... and those issues didn't exist in openoffice.  So im ok with oo being slightly less advanced...
[08:55] <urlin2u> cousin_mario, cool
[08:55] <kaellan> urlin2u even if i lready got the ubuntu i want instaled already ?
[08:55] <triunity> Thanks for the headsup though
[08:56] <urlin2u> kaellan, screen shot gparted so I can see whats up http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[08:56] <BlueWolf> theadmin: It is. It Opened up in ubuntu. And I made sure it was an ubuntu package when I downloaded it.
[08:56] <ziga_> anyone here knows how to fix sound problems? I have no sound icon in taskbar
[08:57] <BlueWolf> theadmin: It just wont install in the ubuntu directory
[08:57] <kaellan> urlin2u: http://imagebin.org/168072
[08:58] <theadmin> BlueWolf: *facepalm* That's exactly what I'm talking about, it is NOT AN UBUNTU PACKAGE. It's not a .deb, it's a .tar.gz.
[08:58] <kaellan> urlin2u i have deleted the backtrack partition and now i need to remove the corect swap memmory
[08:58] <urlin2u> kaellan, just remove the one closest to the unallocated, you only need one, also how much ram do you have?
[08:59] <urlin2u> kaellan, there is no correct
[08:59] <kaellan> urlin2u: i got 6 gig 1333 mhz on this laptop
[08:59] <NicheOWAT> hey guys, I need some help with my dual booting. Earlier today I ran the Windows installer on my Drive E:, I decided to use the Live CD disk to overwrite the entire Drive E: and install Ubuntu that way instead. When I boot my comptuer now and have the option to boot Windows 7 or Ubuntu, when I select Ubuntu I now get an error
[09:00] <urlin2u> kaellan, cool your swap is fine then I suggest the one to remove as it will give you more unallocated .
[09:00] <NicheOWAT> I think it's still trying to boot the Windows installed partition even though I created a new one, how do I go about fixing this? I'm such a noob
[09:00] <urlin2u> NicheOWAT, run sudo update-grub in ubuntu
[09:00] <szal> NicheOWAT: first, define 'an error'
[09:00] <NicheOWAT> urlin2u, how do I get to ubuntu? Says Windows can't find that partition whenever I try to boot Ubuntu
[09:01] <NicheOWAT> I'm in Windows 7 now fyi
[09:01] <urlin2u> NicheOWAT, did you install inside of windows?
[09:01] <triunity> NicheOWAT, if both are fresh, just install do a reinstall with windows, than install ubuntu on top.  That is the best way
[09:01] <NicheOWAT> Earlier today yes, but I just used the LiveCD to overwrite that
[09:01] <ziga_> the best how to about dualboot i have ever found is here: http://www.lancelhoff.com/restore-grub2-after-installing-windows/
[09:01] <urlin2u> NicheOWAT, yes to me
[09:02] <urlin2u> NicheOWAT, yes to a wubi install?
[09:02] <BlueWolf> theadmin: Ok then, please could you give me the Url for the firefox site.
[09:02] <NicheOWAT> what? Wubi install?
[09:02] <NicheOWAT> don't know what this means
[09:02] <theadmin> BlueWolf: Open a terminal, run this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:02] <urlin2u> NicheOWAT, first tab the user name so we know who you af=re answering. Did you install ubuntu from windows?
[09:03] <urlin2u> are*
[09:04] <NicheOWAT> urlin2u, the first time I installed Ubuntu ealrier today, yes I did install it with Windows. However I just used the Live CD to install Ubuntu, erasing the Ubuntu that was installed with Windows earlier
[09:04] <NicheOWAT> I overwrote it because it limited me to 30GB when I ran it through Windows
[09:04] <zamba> how can i make a bootable usb from an iso?
[09:04] <urlin2u> NicheOWAT, can you screen shot gparted or run a script to pastebin, you will have to onstall gparted.
[09:05] <urlin2u> install
[09:05] <theadmin> zamba: There are many ways, unetbootin, usb-creator, lili
[09:05] <NicheOWAT> urlin2u, I don't know what any of that means
[09:06] <urlin2u> NicheOWAT, gparted is a partitioner on the live cd.
[09:07] <zamba> theadmin: what works?
[09:07] <milamber> !usb | zamba
[09:07] <urlin2u> NicheOWAT, if you can't boot ubuntu we will have to use the install disc to fix it so a screen shot of gparted will get us closer, boot the live cd.
[09:07] <theadmin> zamba: All of those I listed would work with Ubuntu.
[09:07] <zamba> this is not about installing ubuntu, it's about writing bootable iso images to usb
[09:07] <NicheOWAT> Ok, I'm going to reboot with the Live CD.... I'LL BE BAWK
[09:07] <zamba> theadmin: as i said, this is not about installing ubuntu
[09:08] <alks> ;] cant get  MS windows media player  to run on playonlinux :/, it installs and does not run  (looking for a solution for DRM protected files)
[09:08] <gluesniffmonkey> I have one ubuntu laptop that refuses to connect to my wireless router at home.
[09:09] <gluesniffmonkey> All the settings are the same in networkmanager.
[09:09] <dr_willis> playonlinux is a wine frontend. so check the wine app databese alks
[09:09] <gluesniffmonkey> how do i troubleshoot this?
[09:09] <kaellan> urlin2u: hmm i dont find how to make the partition im on bigger/increased over the amount of free space
[09:09] <urlin2u> kaellan, I don't understan that.
[09:10] <kaellan> urlin2u: how to make a partiion bigger?
[09:10] <urlin2u> kaellan, sorry you have to do it from a live cdturn off the swap when you do.
[09:10] <milamber> !details | gluesniffmonkey
[09:10] <kaellan> urlin2u: ok
[09:10] <kaellan> bbl then :)
[09:10] <urlin2u> kaellan, cool turn off the sap to do it.
[09:11] <urlin2u> swap
[09:11] <pyghassen> hi
[09:12] <furuikun_> hi
[09:12] <pyghassen> is there any chat room for ubuntu server?
[09:12] <milamber> pyghassen: #ubuntu-server
[09:12] <pyghassen> thanks milamber
[09:12] <milamber> pyghassen: np
[09:15] <gluesniffmonkey> running 10.04 networkmanager wireless security wpa & wpa2 Personal IPv4 settings Automatic (DHCP) working with imac and acer aspire one
[09:15] <gluesniffmonkey> with acer extensa 4630z same settings on ubuntu 10.04 and can't connect
[09:16] <dr_willis> gluesniffmonkey:  what witeless chipset would be handy also
[09:16] <dr_willis> its one of those importsnt details.
[09:16] <alks> ahhh so as i look in wine app database it says that drm protectd files does not work on wine installed windows media player.. so no need to fix it
[09:16] <gluesniffmonkey> i can connect to wireless wpa2 everywhere but at home
[09:17] <alks> does anyone know how to run drm protected files in ubuntu
[09:17] <alks> ?
[09:17] <dr_willis> alks:  vbox running windows
[09:17] <alks> i have only 2gigs ram
[09:17] <dr_willis> do.
[09:17] <dr_willis> so
[09:17] <vanquish349> where is the geddit executable file, i need it for greese monkey
[09:17] <dr_willis> it can work
[09:17] <triunity> alks, the vb will work fine with 1/2 that
[09:18] <alks> ok ill try it then
[09:18] <alks> ty
[09:18] <vanquish349> please anyone
[09:18] <gluesniffmonkey> Wireless card is Atheros Communications AR928X
[09:18] <triunity> Give the VB 512MB of ram ;)
[09:18] <szal> vanquish349: hint: it's gedit, not geddit
[09:18] <dr_willis> vanquish349:  use  which  command
[09:18] <vanquish349> szal: yeah i know spelling mistake
[09:18] <gluesniffmonkey> The router is Linksy WAP 54G
[09:18] <vanquish349> dr_willis: what do you mean
[09:19] <dr_willis> 'which gedit'
[09:20] <urlin2u> alks, if you have a legal windows disc and key just dual boot.
[09:22] <alks> urlin2u,  i have dual boot just wanted to make it work straight so i could get rid of window someday
[09:22] <vanquish449> sorry, stupid unity froze on me again
[09:23] <vanquish449> so how do i open gedit from a folder place things
[09:23] <vanquish449> thingy*
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[09:23] <urlin2u> alks, good goal. ;-)
[09:24] <vanquish449> so can someone help me
[09:24] <dr_willis> clarify the problem. ;)
[09:25] <vanquish449> dr_willis: i am starting to use greasemonkey
[09:25] <theadmin> woah
[09:25] <vanquish449> to make a script you have to put a few bits of info in and then chose an editor you want ro use
[09:25] <vanquish449> to*
[09:25] <vanquish449> then a folder thing comes up
[09:27] <dr_willis> you mean a file requestir dialog box asking for the editor to use?
[09:29] <vanquish449> dr_willis: yeah
[09:29] <dr_willis> so use 'which gedit' to get the path
[09:29] <vanquish449> ok
[09:29] <vanquish449> ohh i see
[09:30] <vanquish449> thanks
[09:31] <Niche> Hey guys, I "Try Ubuntu" on the Live CD and it's been loading for 20 minutes since... Is this normal? I have a quad core computer, it's not slow
[09:32] <Niche> *I clicked
[09:32] <triunity> No, that is not normal
[09:32] <theadmin> Niche: It's not normal. Make sure it was burned well, there is an option to check disk integrity in the boot menu
[09:32] <triunity> It shouldn't take more than a minute to load
[09:32] <theadmin> triunity: It often does take more than a minute. Not more than 3 mins though.
[09:33] <szal> triunity: let's say 2 or 3, but certainly not more than that
[09:33] <Niche> Already checked for integrity after it burned and it appeared to be fine :S
[09:33] <dr_willis> !nomodset
[09:33] <JoeR1> quick question, does anyone know how long, on average, "make" takes during the compile on the 3.0.1 kernel?
[09:34] <triunity> LoL, ok------  if loadtime => 360: print "error"
[09:34] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[09:35] <Niche> If print "error" sudo reboot
[09:35] <whoppergator> JoeR1: that is REALLY dependent on the system compiling the kernel...
[09:35] <gluesniffmonkey> gtg. Try this qagain later
[09:35] <theadmin> triunity: What's that language? :/
[09:35] <gluesniffmonkey> again
[09:35] <triunity> Niche ewww, that can lead to infinate reboots, bad programer, shame on you
[09:35] <triunity> Python
[09:35] <dr_willis> Niche:  whats your video chipset. you may need that nomodeset option
[09:36] <JoeR1> whoppergator, gee really!? wow, that totally make me wish I would have asked for an average time
[09:36] <Niche> Haha, I have zero programming knowledge :D
[09:36] <whoppergator> JoeR1: haha, nice
[09:37] <Niche> Video chipset? I have no idea, how do I figure that out?
[09:37] <triunity> Its ok Niche, i forgive you, this time.  But next time i cut off a finger...
[09:37] <whoppergator> JoeR1: on my old-school dual-core intel core laptop, it can take 15 minutes when i've customized a lot.
[09:37] <Niche> If finger = -rm sudo reboot
[09:38] <dr_willis> ive seen it take severl hrs. ;)   so now your average is  2 hrs
[09:38] <triunity> *twitch*
[09:38] <Niche> Lol
[09:39] <JoeR1> whoppergator, I only ask because I have been going for many hours now and I have no idea how much longer it has
[09:39] <rumianom> Hi, what might the problem when mouse is hard in interacting if there is huge wifi usage, both usb wifi dongle and wireless usb mouse?
[09:39] <triunity> Signal Interferance
[09:39] <whoppergator> JoeR1: Oh, well I'm coming from a gentoo background in that respect, so my kernel are pretty lean. If you're compiling ALL modules or something then that could take that long
[09:40] <milamber> JoeR1: http://xkcd.com/303/
[09:40] <triunity> @rumianom --> Your wifi dongle and wireless mouse may be interfering with each other
[09:40] <sarmion> test
[09:41] <rumianom> @triunity thanks
[09:41] <whoppergator> JoeR1: what are you running the compile on? you could also parallel-ize some of it?
[09:42] <triunity> @rumianom, to test, try a normal usb mouse and then do something internet intensive, and see if the mouse acts up.  If it does, than you have more serious issues
[09:42] <Niche-LiveCD> hey guys
[09:42] <Niche-LiveCD> now I'm trying to resolve my issue
[09:42] <triunity> Mornin'
[09:43] <Niche-LiveCD> bad programmer her
[09:43] <triunity> Yepperz, i remember
[09:43] <Niche-LiveCD> lol
[09:43] <Niche-LiveCD> so I mentioned this 30 minutes ago, but I'll restate my problem
[09:43] <JoeR1> whoppergator, this is a Pentium d, first gen dual core 2g ram
[09:44] <whoppergator> JoeR1: Woah, that's why. Are you compiling the default ubuntu sources?
[09:44] <szal> a heating plant, and not the fastest one at that ^^
[09:45] <rumianom> @triunity i don't have normal mouse, but changing channel should be okay or I have to change bandpass 2,4 -> 5
[09:45] <JoeR1> whoppergator, no, I nixed some options
[09:45] <claviusmond> can anyone tell me why streamtuner wont show stations for the live365 or basic.ch channels?
[09:45] <rumianom> @triunity is there a tool for ubuntu to check the traffic on every channel?
[09:45] <claviusmond> or, suggest any other radio streamer that works better than this one
[09:45] <triunity> Umm, on my phone there is, im not sure about ubuntu though
[09:46] <fish_> hi
[09:46] <Niche-LiveCD> Earlier today I installed Ubuntu 11.04 with the Windows Installer. I decided later on in the day to install Ubuntu 11.04 with the Live CD. After installing with the Live CD, when I get the option to boot Windows 7 or Ubuntu, the Ubuntu does not work and says Windows cannot find the partition.
[09:46] <triunity> Maybe try a different channel and just see if it helps
[09:46] <Niche-LiveCD> An image of my fdisk -l can be seen here: http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1489/screenshotrootubuntuhom.png
[09:46] <Niche-LiveCD> Any ideas?
[09:46] <JoeR1> whoppergator, oh well screw it, I'll just have to endure and wait until the Bulldozer comes out
[09:47] <fish_> i have a really weird issue.. i try to fix hostname -f, right now it says 'Name or service not known'. as far as i know, it looks up the local ip. so if i put the hostname for 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts, it should work
[09:47] <Y3N> hi all
[09:47] <urlin2u> Niche-LiveCD, did you put the sdb first in line to boot in the bios?
[09:47] <Niche-LiveCD> urlin2u, not that I know of
[09:47] <Niche-LiveCD> I barely know what I'm doing
[09:47] <Niche-LiveCD> is there a way I can fix that in Terminal if I didn't?
[09:47] <whoppergator> JoeR1: oh well, gl. I remember spending whole nights compiling back in college days :)
[09:48] <fish_> but it seems tools like nslookup and host don't read hosts, but ping for examples does. /etc/nsswitch.conf is correct (files before anything else for 'hosts'
[09:48] <JoeR1> whoppergator, I suspect most of tomorrow will be spent on this as well
[09:48] <triunity> Niche, grub2 is most likely broken, follow this: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/how-to-recover-grub2-linux.html
[09:48] <rumianom> @triunity was is the name of your iphone app?
[09:48] <Niche-LiveCD> If I follow this tutorial: http://www.lancelhoff.com/restore-grub2-after-installing-windows/ do you think it will fix my issue? I'm just afraid it's going to remove my Windows partition and then I'll have zero working partitions
[09:48] <triunity> Andriod, sorry!@
[09:49] <urlin2u> Niche-LiveCD, is sdb a slave hd?
[09:49] <Y3N> any1 using Lusca here?
[09:49] <triunity> Rumianom, I know they have one for iphone, my friend uses it...
[09:49] <whoppergator> JoeR1: make sure you use the -j# make opt, where # is the number of jobs to help in the future
[09:49] <Niche-LiveCD> urlin2u, no idea
[09:50] <froes> hi guys... cant seem to install vlc.. any ideas???
[09:50] <froes> http://pastebin.com/T6xa1FAG
[09:50] <rumianom> @triunity ups read iphone but there was phone ;) so what is the name of this app?
[09:50] <urlin2u> Niche-LiveCD, so we can make sure grub is in the sdb hd masterboot record you just have to have it read first in the bios.
[09:50] <JoeR1> whoppergator, ok I'm on it, perhaps I will see you tomorrow and report on the event
[09:50] <szal> !info vlc maverick
[09:50] <whoppergator> JoeR1: for a dual core, use 3, so something like: 'make -j3 && make modules_install'
[09:51] <triunity> @rumianom Honestly i can't say.. I've seen my friend use it, but I don't know its name offhand, search the app store...
[09:52] <JoeR1> whoppergator, at this rate that won't come up until some time in january
[09:52] <szal> froes: try uninstalling libva1 first
[09:52] <triunity> @rumianom, the forums recommend wifi radar, which is available from USC
[09:52] <Y3N> somebody.... plz help me out,  my Lusca error with warning "squidaio_queue_request : WARNING - Queue congestion" if anyone know how to fix it, i am appreciate, Thanks
[09:52] <doritey> Hi,.
[09:52] <urlin2u> Niche-LiveCD, open gparted on the live cd it is in the menu and take a screen shot I want to make sure no partitions are open.
[09:52] <doritey> .*
[09:53] <whoppergator> JoeR1: If it's something you have to do a lot, consider compiling on a faster machine. There is no rule you have to torture that particular box
[09:53] <doritey> Is there anything you can do on Ubuntu that can't be done on Windows or OSX? I'm asking because I just got a MacBook and I'm setting up virtualizations of all the OS' I might need to access in the future.
[09:54] <triunity> JoeR1 -->  ubuntu 11.04 server edition.  It isn't tied down by a gui, may be your saving grace
[09:54] <triunity> Doritey --> Not get viruses?
[09:54] <ricky26> Does anyone know where I'd look if Ubuntu is being weird with a specific USB device?
[09:54] <doritey> Well, I mean in terms of functionality
[09:54] <szal> triunity: futile for Mac OSX, I guess
[09:55] <JoeR1> whoppergator, this is the fastst machine I have right now and the only one runnning linux anyway
[09:55] <szal> futile argument, that is
[09:55] <triunity> Szal, mac's get viruses... don't let them fool you
[09:55] <whoppergator> ricky26: did you look at your dmesg output already?
[09:55] <doritey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
[09:55] <ricky26> whoppergator: Yeah, nothing.
[09:55] <doritey> Apparently Linux has viruses too.
[09:55] <ricky26> whoppergator: Pressing buttons on the USB device causes gdm to restart. ;P
[09:55] <doritey> I think it's just a matter of the OS' popularity.
[09:55] <JoeR1> triunity, no gui!? that sounds like the like a freaking nightmare
[09:55] <triunity> Doritey, The main virus on that page has an uninstall command... really?
[09:55] <Niche-LiveCD> urlin2u, http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2312/screenshotdevsdagparted.png
[09:55] <rumianom> @triunity thanks i have found the same - installing :)
[09:55] <whoppergator> ricky26: wow, lovely. kernel issue?
[09:55] <JoeR1> triunity, also I have linux server on my NAS
[09:56] <doritey> triunity: Well whatever, I'm just wondering if there's anything Ubuntu can do that Windows or OSX can't.
[09:56] <urlin2u> doritey, There has not yet been a widespread Linux malware threat of the type that Microsoft Windows software faces
[09:56] <ricky26> whoppergator: I'm hoping it's not a problem with kernel, because the device has no specific drivers.
[09:56] <doritey> I.e. is there a reason for me to virtualize it
[09:56] <ricky26> whoppergator: It's a usb audo/HID hybrid all the info is in the descriptors.
[09:56] <triunity> Yes, there is more hacking software on Linux than Win and Mac combined
[09:56] <doritey> Aha.
[09:57] <doritey> Does that include programming IDEs and stuff
[09:57] <doritey> because i would like a neat programming environment
[09:57] <wildbat_semiafk> anyone know how too loop boot alternate ubuntu ISO ? i tried iso-scan/filename but it seem not working .
[09:57] <Niche-LiveCD> urlin2u, did you see my gpart?
[09:57] <triunity> Dority, there are a few great IDE's like Eclipse
[09:57] <ricky26> The crash isnt consistent either, sometimes it works properly, and sometimes it assigns all the buttons from 0, ie LMOUSE, RMOUSE etc, and I can't click with my actual mouse.
[09:57] <urlin2u> Niche-LiveCD, okay close everything the open the disk utility and unmount everything as of now you have sda2 open we want none open the key you see in gparted means mounted.
[09:57] <triunity> Im not sure if that is on Mac/Windows (seeing as i don't use them)
[09:58] <doritey> triunity that's cool
[09:58] <doritey> Well
[09:58] <doritey> Actually now that I think about, I'm sure at least Windows has an equally powerful selection of programming tools.
[09:58] <doritey> Hm...
[09:58] <urlin2u> Niche-LiveCD, yes that was a picture of only one HD you have 3, we want all not mounted.
[09:58] <triunity> Every major OS has nice programming tools
[09:58] <doritey> Well, maybe I should just skip using Linux for now.
[09:58] <whoppergator> ricky26: i don't think i can help much without more info, what exactly is the device?
[09:59] <triunity> What about the hacking?
[09:59] <JoeR1> doritey - windows has an amazing selection of progrmming tools
[09:59] <Niche-LiveCD> urlin2u, how do I unmount with Disk Utility
[09:59] <doritey> joe75 ya
[09:59] <milamber> doritey: why are you thinking about transitioning/virtualizing? linux has a really great server stack with LAMP, but unless you provide details, we won't be able to tell you any specifics. as for switching for the sake of switching - i don't really recommend that. learning for the sake of learning - ok though :)
[09:59] <ricky26> whoppergator: Logitech G930
[09:59] <triunity> John the Ripper will cry...
[09:59] <ricky26> whoppergator: I am just fighting lsusb for the descriptors
[09:59] <triunity> and AirCrackng... and and...
[09:59] <urlin2u> Niche-LiveCD, there are unmount buttons for each partition in each HD.
[09:59] <whoppergator> ricky26: oO, is that a camera?
[09:59] <ricky26> whoppergator: No
[09:59] <doritey> milamber: I'm into web/design/programming/development and I'm just setting up virtualized environments that I may need for later
[09:59] <squig> I laugh when some one suggests php as being pretty good
[09:59] <ricky26> whoppergator: Don't ask about the logitech webcam on my desk
[09:59] <ricky26> whoppergator: That causes lock-ups in Linux
[10:00] <ricky26> whoppergator: I shoulda learned really. ;P
[10:00] <doritey> I'm just wondering if there's anything Ubuntu does better than Windows/Mac that isn't a free software foundation-argument
[10:00] <Zutara> Hi. need help with moving a window from my second monitor (left) over to my first (right). Can't use mouse because whenever I click the stupid window moves.
[10:00] <doritey> like ITS FREE or whatever.
[10:00] <doritey> I mean in terms of actual functionality.
[10:00] <Mrokii> Hi. I sthere a way to tell Gnome-Terminal (via some preference-file) to open with an initial window-size?
[10:00] <whoppergator> ricky26: haha, yeah sounds like kernel issues, sorry i'm not more helpful
[10:00] <Niche-LiveCD> urlin2u, do I even unmount my current Linux installation hard drive?
[10:00] <squig> doritey, we have significantly increased performance (like 40% for our tasks)
[10:00] <ricky26> whoppergator: Yeah, the camera one definitely is.
[10:00] <triunity> Dirity, for webdev, Mac and Windows are fine, Linux has Equally good software, but nothing amazingly unique...
[10:00] <urlin2u> Niche-LiveCD, do you also know how to change HD list in the bioos move them around for reading at boot?
[10:00] <whoppergator> Mrokii: yes.
[10:00] <ricky26> whoppergator: It's due to Linux being far too optimistic in usbcore.
[10:00] <sarmion> when i boot up natty it says unable to mount?
[10:01] <auronandace> doritey: there are lots of different filesystems supported on linux
[10:01] <doritey> squig thats cool
[10:01] <Niche-LiveCD> urlin2u,  negatory
[10:01] <ricky26> whoppergator: But the G930 is a pita, because sometimes it works fine, and just replugging doesn't seem to fix. I have to reboot. Which makes me think it's a service setting it up crazy.
[10:01] <urlin2u> Niche-LiveCD, we will be wasting out time till you do.
[10:01] <whoppergator> Mrokii: go to the edit menu, then under profile preferences there is an option for that
[10:01] <milamber> doritey: the lamp stack would be the only argument then. getting apache mysql and php or perl or python is a breeze on linux
[10:01] <squig> doritey, windows 7's file server is almost as fast  as nfs from 2000 (and before)
[10:01] <Zutara> hello?
[10:02] <urlin2u> our*
[10:02] <Mrokii> whoppergator: oh, thanks. I thought that would be something needed to be done via some prefs-files.
[10:02] <triunity> Dority:  Linux is also great for recovery.  If your windows dies, having a dualboot Linux can save your life/work
[10:02] <whoppergator> Mrokii: it used to be something that could only be done by passing a command line option, but the newer versions have that handy option
[10:02] <triunity> Or just a live CD
[10:03] <sarmion> i just keep .iso on external
[10:03] <ricky26> whoppergator: Argh, I think I'm gonna have to believe it's logitech being shite with USB again.
[10:03] <Mrokii> whoppergator: Okay, found it. Thanks again.
[10:03] <Zutara> triunity: damn right. The LM9 Lice CD saved some of my files when I had to reinstall
[10:03] <Zutara> *Live
[10:03] <whoppergator> ricky26: yeah, i have a dual-boot desktop that makes me unplug the mouse and plug it back in everytime i switch, or the scroll wheel will go into SUPER sensitive mode
[10:03] <ricky26> whoppergator: lol
[10:03] <triunity> Zutara:  thats what im talkin' about ;)
[10:04] <Zutara> Hi. need help with moving a window from my second monitor (left) over to my first (right). Can't use mouse because whenever I click the stupid window moves.
[10:04] <ricky26> Incidentally, is there any set of scripts for building ubuntu from scratch? :p
[10:04] <Zutara> I want to move the Minitube window back over
[10:04] <Zutara> won't wrok with mouse though
[10:04] <Slart> Zutara: I'm not sure if devilspie works with separate monitors but it might be worth a try
[10:04] <Slart> !info devilspie
[10:04] <ricky26> whoppergator: Thanks for your thoughts on my problem btw. :)
[10:04] <whoppergator> Zutara: if you hold down alt, it used to let you drag a window with the mouse from any window position
[10:05] <whoppergator> ricky26: np! :)
[10:05] <Zutara> alt = no dice :(
[10:05] <AdvoWork> how can i check if/what firewall is running on my server?
[10:05]  * Zutara installs devilspie
[10:05] <doritey> squig milamber and triunity: With the risk of sounding belligerent and while I do appreciate Linux's technical prowess, I don't really consider it very interesting from a desktop functionality standpoin. Like, I'm talking about emulating Ubuntu for the purpose of getting access to things I don't have on Windows or OSX.
[10:05] <doritey> And in that case, it won't do much if Ubuntu's only selling point is that it's faster/more secure or whatever.
[10:05] <Slart> AdvoWork: iptables -L will give you a list of some of the rules for iptables
[10:05] <doritey> Get what I mean?
[10:06] <doritey> standpoint*
[10:06] <whoppergator> AdvoWork: are you looking for something besides grepping through ps?
[10:06] <urlin2u> doritey, why are you here this is Ubuntu support, not arguments.
[10:06] <Zutara> DP installed. now what?
[10:06] <Slart> doritey, squig, milamber, triunity: this is a channel for ubuntu user support.. discussions such as this one might be better done in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:06] <sarmion> Any nifty linux commands?
[10:06] <JoeR1> doritey the "selling point" that get ubuntu/linux downloaded more often than not is that it is free
[10:07] <Acidpunk> That and 95% of software on the platform is free as well
[10:07] <Slart> Zutara: you'll have to check the man page.. man devilspie   should be a good start
[10:07] <triunity> there are a lot of programs on linux that can't be found on mac/windows, but if you don't need/want those programs there is little point.  Like nmap, john the ripper, aircrackng, and the like...  Not to mention  if you are a web dev, you may want linux as a vb for the point of checking compatablity with your sites
[10:07] <Slart> !ot
[10:07] <Zutara> k
[10:07] <sarmion> I've just switched to Linux from windows...is why i ask...
[10:07] <milamber> doritey: i understand what you are saying. most people here are very much a fan of the right tool for the job. if you have the right tools then there is no need to switch. (excluding the arguments you have already excluded :) )
[10:07] <Slart> Zutara: I've never actually used it myself.. just heard it being recommended
[10:07] <triunity> test
[10:08] <urlin2u> Stop feeding the troll
[10:08] <auronandace> !terminal | sarmion
[10:08] <JoeR1> doritey, I'm with you thought, for the most part Windows 7 or Xp is a great OS with an fine amount of versatility and I would NEVER recommend any distro of linux to friend that isn't interested in spending hours of every day just trying to acclimated to a new OS
[10:08] <Slart> !ot | JoeR1
[10:08] <richtroye> sarmion grep and find are nifty linux commands
[10:09] <doritey> triunity, milamber and JoeR1: Good points, to all of you.
[10:09] <richtroye> and man, and apropos, they're good commands too
[10:09] <doritey> urlin2u and Slart: Ok. :-)
[10:09] <sarmion> what? @richroye
[10:09] <AdvoWork> Slart, its basically im trying to get my ubuntu server to connect to a mysql connection on a remote connection. it works from otherpc > remote, but not ubuntu server > remote. Any suggestions, i cant see aything blocking it on iptables
[10:09] <Slart> doritey: thanks =)
[10:09] <urlin2u> doritey, there is a #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:09] <JoeR1> cram it Slart - I was talking about Ubuntu I just said linux in a generalization
[10:09] <doritey> Ya.
[10:09] <doritey> I'm there.
[10:09] <richtroye> sarmion You were asking for nifty linux commands, and I gave you four
[10:09] <doritey> :)
[10:09] <triunity> JoeR1  I disagree, my grandmother uses linux just fine.  In fact i have to help her less on linux than i did with windows...
[10:10] <Slart> JoeR1: talking about ubuntu is offtopic in this channel as well.. this is for user questions/support.. not discussion
[10:10] <sarmion> @richroye Grep and Find
[10:10] <richtroye> sarmion  Perhaps another channel is better for your question, maybe #linux
[10:11] <triunity> is it #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntuofftopic?
[10:11] <milamber> !ot
[10:11] <Slart> AdvoWork: hmm.. if you haven't set anything up there shouldn't be anything blocking.. there are no default rules setup.. ie everything should be open on a default install..
[10:11] <triunity> Thanks
[10:11] <Niche> urlin2u, my pc restarted and now I am unable to boot windows or linux. It just says Grub and tells me to press Tab
[10:12] <JoeR1> triunity, well different stroke for different folks, I can say that i am pretty sure Ubuntu is ill suited for power users like myself, I lack the high end programmer prowess and I am not on the day care level either and U-linux seems to be too much trouble for not enough benefit but I am still trying
[10:12] <Zutara> I've got no idea of where to start with the geometry command
[10:12] <Slart> AdvoWork: I'm not really sure what can go wrong with the mysql stuff.. haven't used it that much myself.. and never to a remote computer
[10:12] <Slart> Zutara: hang on.. let me install devilspie and see if I can make sense of it
[10:12] <Zutara> k
[10:12] <milamber> AdvoWork: you have to bind your ip in the my.cnf
[10:13] <milamber> AdvoWork: to enable remote connections on the default mysql server
[10:13] <urlin2u> Niche, first you are going to have to open the bios and put the sdb hd before the others for this to work. To be honest for me it is 3:13 am I need to crash, so others may be able to help.
[10:14] <AdvoWork> milamber, is this still the case though, because i can go anymachine > remote machine  = ok, but ubuntuserver > remote machine = fail.. isnt the bind bit supposedly done on the remote side? which i have proven already works?
[10:14] <Niche> Kk thanks for your helps
[10:14] <triunity> Well Joe I guess each has there own.  I've installed linux on about 80 - 90 computers, and about 30 or so server installs.  Most of my clients get a hold of it rather quickly...
[10:14] <urlin2u> Niche, this is any easy fix If I was there about 5 min work, but on the web with a new user this could take awhile, I need to sleep.
[10:14] <beginner> hi everyone, i have something to ask: is it possible to have Compiz and Unity together
[10:14] <milamber> AdvoWork: not sure what anymachine > remote machine means? and no the bind bit is on the server
[10:15] <dr_willis> beginner:  thats the default. so yes
[10:16] <dr_willis> unity runs on top of compiz normally
[10:16] <Zutara> ew. Unity.
[10:16] <triunity> Question.  I have a python script on my desktop, is there any way of running it, merely by double clicking?
[10:16] <dr_willis> eww you said eww.
[10:16] <Zutara> triunity: yes
[10:16] <Slart> Zutara: hmm.. it seems devilspie is more of a "configure stuff the way you want them to be" instead of "change things around with the command line"
[10:16] <Zutara> damnit
[10:16] <triunity> Zutara:  Agreed, unity is horrable.  I tell my clients that it is broke, and switch them back to gnome
[10:17] <Zutara> well this sucks
[10:17] <whoppergator> beginner: if you want to configure compiz, there is always the compizconfig-settings-manager package
[10:17] <triunity> Zutara, might elaborating on how?
[10:17] <ricky26> triunity: chmod +x filename :p
[10:17] <Zutara> right click, choose properties, click permmissions and check the run this file as...
[10:17] <Zutara> or that
[10:17] <triunity> Way beyond that...
[10:17] <ricky26> triunity: If that doesn't work add #!/bin/env python as the first line
[10:18] <triunity> Warning: unknown mime-type for "Hello World" -- using "application/octet-stream"
[10:18] <triunity> Error: no such file "Hello World"
[10:18] <beginner> Thanks guys..
[10:18] <ricky26> triunity: #!/usr/bin/env python
[10:18] <triunity> and to ricky --> bash: /home/omega/Desktop/test.py: /bin/env: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[10:19]  * Zutara sighs "Why is there nothing on the internet about this prob?" & tries using pluses in his google searches. :p
[10:19] <AdvoWork> milamber, i mean my general machine here i can connect to mysql on the remote machine so i know the remote machine is accepting connections, but on my ubuntu server, i try the same connection and it times out(so surely that means something on the ubuntu machine is blocking it?)
[10:19] <Slart> Zutara: this seems more usable.. not easy.. but still more usable http://movingtofreedom.org/2010/08/10/arranging-windows-from-the-gnulinux-command-line-with-wmctrl/
[10:19] <Zutara> ooooo
[10:20] <triunity> Heyy Ricky, it works, thank you ;)  I guess its really my fault for not putting the first line in.  Shame on me, ehh?
[10:20]  * Niche prints "Hello World"
[10:20] <ricky26> triunity: :P
[10:21] <ricky26> triunity: No problem.
[10:21] <dr_willis> python is very structured.  so are scripts. ;)
[10:21] <milamber> AdvoWork: i don't think you are presenting your problem clearly. you are describing the remote machine as the mysql server. you are saying that you are trying to connect to that server from your server and it is timing out?
[10:21] <milamber> AdvoWork: and based on the info provided i would say it sounds like a router issue
[10:21] <triunity> Dr_Willis, Yea, python is structured, but typically i run python by typing in terminal:  python script.py
[10:22] <triunity> Which doesnt require the : #!/usr/bin/env python
[10:22] <dr_willis> triunity:  use thae #! and you dont need to
[10:22] <wildbat> anyone know how too loop boot alternate ubuntu ISO ? i tried boot option "iso-scan/filename=the.iso"  but it seem not working .
[10:23] <Niche> Sigh, how did I screw up a ubuntu install guys? That is like crashing a bike with training wheels
[10:23] <triunity> Dr, when i run it without that, it just opens python, doesn't actually run the script
[10:23] <dr_willis> wildbat:  boot iso with grub2 you mean?
[10:23] <whoppergator> wildbat: what are you trying to do?
[10:24] <wildbat> dr_willis: yes
[10:24] <wildbat> whoppergator: boot the alternate iso wit grub2
[10:24] <whoppergator> Niche: details? sorry i missed your earlier attempt with urlin2u
[10:24] <Slart> Zutara: that utility worked for me.. note though that if you're using desktop effects (compiz) you have one huuuge desktop.. so if I want to put my irssi window on the desktop to the right I have to move it to coords 2000,10  (my screen is ~1900 pixels wide)
[10:24] <Slart> Zutara: here are some more commands http://tomas.styblo.name/wmctrl/
[10:24] <sgo11> Hi, I am running ubuntu 11.04 natty. did all the upgrades. Intel graphic card. Currently, my screen resolution is not correct. it's restricted to 1024x768. It might because of long VGA cables? (I used two VGA cables and connected them together to make a long one). how to solve it?
[10:25] <dr_willis> wildbat:  i got some bookmarks on it at delicious.com/dr_willis
[10:25] <sgo11> I even tried xrandr --addmode VGA1 1920x1080, but it gave me error: xrandr: cannot find mode "1920x1080"
[10:25] <triunity> Second part of the question, when it runs, it asks: "Do you want to run or display its contents?"  Can i just force this particular script to run always not display?
[10:25] <ricky26> sgo11: Which intel card?
[10:25] <Niche> Whoppergator, ubuntu not booting. I tried to fix grub and now neither boot
[10:25] <whoppergator> wildbat: is there something wrong with using a flash stick or burning to disc?
[10:25] <sgo11> I am very sure my monitor and PC support 1920x1080. I used it before with short cable.
[10:26] <sgo11> ricky26, sorry, can't remember. but it's very new one.
[10:26] <sgo11> ricky26, I used 1920x1080 before with a short VGA cable. right now, due to the distance between the PC box and monitor, I has to use long cable. so I used two VGA cables. not sure if this is the cause.
[10:27] <whoppergator> Niche: is this an initial dual-boot install of ubuntu? also, are we talking two hdds here or one with multiple partitions?
[10:27] <ricky26> sgo11: Did you use the same OS before?
[10:27] <Niche> Multiple hdds
[10:27] <Zutara> Well, it moved the minitube window. now it's in my second workspace, on my first monitor and the top half of the window is above the edge of my 1920x1024 monitor.
[10:28] <sgo11> ricky26, yeah. ubuntu 11.04.
[10:28] <ricky26> sgo11: You've installed the appropriate xorg-xserver-video-X packages right?
[10:28] <whoppergator> Niche: ah, okay. so when you boot, you are seeing grub load, but it can't find the configuration partition?
[10:28] <Niche> Downloading x chat now so I can relay more info
[10:28] <sgo11> ricky26, actually, I have two PCs and two monitors. they are the same setup and model. another one with short cable (provided by PC) works now in ubuntu 11.04.
[10:29] <Niche> On smart phone now
[10:29] <sgo11> ricky26, what is that? just default installation. then upgrade. install vlc, ubuntu-restricted-extras etc...
[10:29] <ricky26> sgo11: Graphics drivers, if you didn't do anything special with the first PC you shouldn't need to.
[10:30] <ricky26> sgo11: You could always try looking at the two X11 logs to make sure they're both using the same driver.
[10:30] <Niche-LiveCD> Ok
[10:30] <ricky26> sgo11: because that'll be what is restricting the resolution if it's a software problem. ;P
[10:30] <rabbi1> guys, unable to start font viewer....
[10:30] <sgo11> ricky26, I didn't do anything special with the first PC. just the VGA cables are different. One with PC provided VGA short cable. Another one with two long VGA cables bought from some shop.
[10:31] <sgo11> ricky26, how to check which driver is using?
[10:31] <rabbi1> any suggestion , how to check .. can't find gnome-font-viewer in syn mgr also... how can i reinstall ?
[10:31] <wildbat> dr_wills: thanks for the link don't see one for alternate CD
[10:31] <ricky26> sgo11: Just look at /var/log/Xorg.log
[10:31] <dr_willis> im glad i now use dvi and hdmi on all my pcs
[10:31]  * Zutara 's resolution is restricted to 640x480 on his CRT.
[10:31] <Zutara> Before I reinstalled it was fine. What gives?
[10:31] <wildbat> whoppergator: just making a multiboot USB :>
[10:32] <Niche-LiveCD> whoppergator, I am trying to get grub to detect my Windows install by typing "sudo update-grub" in Terminal, but Terminal returns "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat 'aufs'.
[10:32] <beginner> hi, does anyone know how to kill X server in Ubuntu (Alt+ctrl+Backspace does not work with me) ?
[10:32] <dr_willis> wildbat:  pendrivelinux site has some tools to automate it. try thete
[10:32] <Zutara> pkill xorg maybe? (or something along those lines
[10:32] <triunity> Niche, you are forgetting a step!!!
[10:33] <dr_willis> beginner:  thats been disabed for ages
[10:33] <whoppergator> beginner: switch to a terminal with ctrl-alt-F1, then log-in and KILL
[10:33] <sgo11> ricky26, ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 10.0, is this the line I should look at?
[10:33] <whoppergator> beginner: if you want that feature back, you can enable it in the keyboard config
[10:33]  * Zutara has been using Ctrl+Alt+Bckspc for a few years.
[10:33] <dr_willis> beginner:  sudo service gdm stop or restart is one way also
[10:33] <Niche-LiveCD> whoppergator, also I was following some instructions online, and accidentally mounted my Windows partition (sda2) when I meant to mount my Linux partition (sdb2). I typed "mount /dev/sda2 /mnt" Did this do something that I need to reverse now?
[10:33] <Zutara> worked fine everytime
[10:34] <dr_willis> !dontzap
[10:34] <IdleOne> !reisub
[10:34] <whoppergator> Niche-LiveCD: if you have rebooted since then don't worry about it
[10:34] <triunity> Niche do this: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[10:34] <Niche-LiveCD> whoppergator, ok I have
[10:34] <beginner> dr_willis thanks that's what exactly i looking for..
[10:34] <Zutara> So why did they disable it? It's helped me out loads of times.
[10:34] <rabbi1> font viewer isn't starting. any suggestion , can't find gnome-font-viewer in syn mgr also... how can i reinstall ?
[10:34] <ricky26> sgo11: Not quite. For example, my Xorg log has a lot of messages from RADEON, for my AMD graphics card.
[10:35] <dr_willis> Zutara: x devs decided to i belive
[10:35] <Zutara> hm.
[10:35] <sgo11> ricky26, ok. so which line should I look at? I have no idea...
[10:35] <ricky26> sgo11: If one of the logs mentions for example i915 or similar, and the other doesn't, it could be something weird.
[10:35] <ricky26> sgo11: Basically, if the logs look the same, there's no problem. :P
[10:35] <Niche-LiveCD> triunity, I did but it returns the same thing. ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[10:35] <Niche-LiveCD> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'.
[10:35] <sgo11> ricky26, well. the log files are very long. I have no idea if they are the same or not...
[10:36] <sgo11> ricky26, I am pretty sure there must be some other ways to check the driver....
[10:36] <ricky26> sgo11: There probably is
[10:36] <ricky26> sgo11: XD
[10:36] <ricky26> sgo11: You could try glxinfo.
[10:36] <ricky26> And look at the vendor string.
[10:37] <triunity> Niche:  Run:  sudo chroot /mnt
[10:37] <sgo11> ricky26, Error: unable to open display by running glxinfo.
[10:37] <ricky26> sgo11: Try the other PC.
[10:37] <sgo11> ricky26, wait.
[10:37] <Niche-LiveCD> triunity: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[10:37] <Niche-LiveCD> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'.
[10:37] <Niche-LiveCD> ooops
[10:37] <sgo11> ricky26, sorry. I did it in the wrong PC. i did it in ssh..
[10:38] <ricky26> sgo11: Haha :)
[10:38] <triunity> run chroot /mnt first
[10:38] <Niche-LiveCD> triunity: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /mnt
[10:38] <Niche-LiveCD> chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[10:38] <whoppergator> Niche-LiveCD: need to mount the ubuntu partition first?
[10:38]  * Zutara can get all that info by running /exec -o inxi -G
[10:38] <Zutara> Graphics:  Card nVidia NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] X.Org 1.7.6 Res: 1920x1024@50.0hz
[10:38] <Zutara>            GLX Renderer GeForce 6600 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! GLX Version 2.1.2 NVIDIA 195.36.24
[10:38] <triunity> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev && sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc && sudo chroot /mnt
[10:39] <triunity> Assuming sda1 is your mount point
[10:39] <ricky26> Zutara: how terribly fancy.
[10:39] <Zutara> ?
[10:39] <Zutara> how so?
[10:39] <stix> can I somehow "unconfig" ubuntu, so that it will ask the user to set a new pass and do networking settings etc, when it boots the next time?
[10:40] <triunity> Stix: OEM install
[10:40] <ricky26> Zutara: Never heard of this so-called inxi. :p
[10:40] <Zutara> oh
[10:40] <whoppergator> wildbat: are you making a multi-boot USB using grub-2?
[10:40] <triunity> Stix, you will need the Alternitive install DVD
[10:40] <Zutara> it's an XCaht command ricky
[10:40] <Zutara> *XChat
[10:40] <stix> triunity: how is that? Something I should have chosen during install?
[10:40] <ricky26> Zutara: Yeah
[10:40] <ricky26> Zutara: I figured /exec ran something called inxo
[10:40] <stix> hmm alternative?
[10:40] <ricky26> inxi*
[10:41] <ricky26> Zutara: from that line.
[10:41] <Niche-LiveCD> whoppergator, ah, there we go
[10:41] <Zutara> Although there probably is a way to do that in Terminal
[10:41] <triunity> Ohh, is this for another user, or for a new computer?
[10:41] <dr_willis> !info inxi
[10:41] <sgo11> ricky26, vendor string are all the same.
[10:41] <Niche-LiveCD> whoppergator, I've entered those in now. Is there any way to check and see if this will work before rebooting?
[10:41] <wildbat> whoppergator: yup everything else was working ~ then hitting the wall with ubuntu alternate CD
[10:41] <triunity> stix: Ohh, is this for another user, or for a new computer?
[10:41] <ricky26> sgo11: In that case, I'd say the drivers were fine on both machines.
[10:41] <whoppergator> wildbat: if i remember correctly, the kernel in the alternate cd isn't named the same or in the same folder as the normal cd
[10:41] <stix> triunity: it is for a template on our vmware environment
[10:42] <sgo11> ricky26, ok. so what next? I really have to fix this issue....
[10:42] <Niche-LiveCD> After mounting and trying those other commands successfully, I just tried to update my grub and it gave me something else
[10:42] <Niche-LiveCD> root@ubuntu:/# sudo update-grub
[10:42] <Niche-LiveCD> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[10:42] <Niche-LiveCD> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[10:42] <sgo11> ricky26, some people online fix this issue by running, xrandr --addmode VGA1 1920x1080. but I got error.
[10:42] <IdleOne> !paste | Niche-LiveCD
[10:42] <ricky26> sgo11: I'm outta ideas sorry. You've tried the xrandr line which would be the next port of call.
[10:43] <sgo11> ricky26, ok. thanks for the help.
[10:43] <triunity> Niche: Ok you do update-grub AFTER restarting your computer, and running ubuntu for the hard drive, not the live cd
[10:43] <wildbat> whoppergator: i know ~ i got it to "boot" but then in the installation it look for CD drive instead of the iso :<
[10:43] <ricky26> sgo11: np, sorry I didn't help much : <
[10:43] <sgo11> anyone else have any ideas how to fix my screen resolution problem? thanks.
[10:43] <Niche-LiveCD> ah ok I'll try it then
[10:43] <Niche-LiveCD> thanks guys
[10:43] <sgo11> ricky26, no worries. thanks a lot for your reply and patient. :)
[10:43] <triunity> FUUUU
[10:43] <triunity> Niche, if you still have your alt, you needed to run, sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[10:44] <whoppergator> Niche-LiveCD: did you pass in the bindings when you chrooted?
[10:44] <Zutara> Ha HA! Fixed Minitube's window. Right click on very bottom of window and chose move to left Workspace. :)
[10:44] <rabbi1> font viewer isn't starting. any suggestion , can't find gnome-font-viewer in syn mgr also... how can i reinstall ?
[10:44] <Niche> AHH freaking crap guys... Rebooting into live cd again
[10:45] <Niche> I'm not going to get any sleep before work :(
[10:45] <triunity> Niche, once you reboot, follow this exactly::: http://paste.ubuntu.com/667191/
[10:45] <triunity> this assumes that sda1 is your mount point
[10:46] <whoppergator> wildbat: how did you get the others to look for isos instead of the cd drive? did you use a loop mount?
[10:46] <stix> triunity: like this one here: http://efreedom.com/Question/2-175905/Linux-Network-Configruation-Wizard
[10:46] <ricky26> brahsd
[10:46] <ricky26> back to kernel hacking I go. :p
[10:47] <wildbat> whoppergator:  the ubuntu iso take iso-scan boot option. but it seem alternate cd don't
[10:47] <_vaibhav_> I want to print text, from command prompt like.  $echo "hi" > /dev/usb/lp0 , I tried it nut didn't work.. Is there any way I can print from HP laser printer? am using buntu 10.04 and HP aserjet 1020
[10:48] <whoppergator> wildbat: the only thing i can think of right now is creating a custon initrd where you could either do the loop mount yourself, or better yet, take the normal ubuntu initrd and replace the alternate to get that function back
[10:48] <triunity> stix honestly my knowledge of virutalization is low.  You could run a self deleting script at startup that requests all that information
[10:48] <thrillERboy> Hi, How do I display contents of a file in terminal?
[10:48] <jpds> thrillERboy: cat $filename
[10:48] <triunity> The idea being once the script is completed it deletes itself and removes itself from startup
[10:48] <whoppergator> thrillERboy: or 'less' if it's long
[10:49] <thrillERboy> Thanks jpds and whoppergator Works great :)
[10:49] <stix> triunity: it really has nothing to do with virtualization. I just want it to invoke a network and password tool on boot
[10:49] <beginner> thrillERboy type cat <filename>
[10:49] <hazamonzo> Hey folks. This may or may not be the place to ask but.... im trying to launch a ubuntu AMI on my ec2 server... there are loads to choose from but i would like to use a virgin copy on ubuntu 11.04 x64. Im following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EC2StartersGuide although im still not sure how i can filter the list of community AMI's to the official virgin copy of ubuntu to launch. Any thoughts?
[10:49] <thrillERboy> thanks beginner :)
[10:50] <triunity> What network info do you need to be asked?
[10:50] <triunity> like time zone info
[10:52] <milamber> _vaibhav_: just pipe it. <whatever command> | lp
[10:52] <Tophen> Yes. I'm back. With one final question.
[10:52] <triunity> stix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/667193/
[10:53] <Tophen> Does anyone know if I can read ext4 on windows at all? I'm using QEMUManager and I need to set the physical disk but it's not appearing.
[10:53] <triunity> stix: EDIT http://paste.ubuntu.com/667194/
[10:53] <hazamonzo> Im just looking for the correct ami id...
[10:53] <stix> thanks :)
[10:53] <Niche> triunity, no go after running those commands
[10:54] <triunity> Really... Niche, I believe karma is not with you...
[10:54] <auronandace> Tophen: it is better to use a storage partition of ntfs to access from both windows and linux
[10:54] <triunity> Niche, you did: http://paste.ubuntu.com/667191/
[10:54] <Tophen> Ok but to install linux on?
[10:54] <Niche> Triunity, I am at a grub screen, it's allowing me to type
[10:54] <Tophen> I installed linux to an ext4 partitio
[10:54] <triunity> Ohhh no no no
[10:54] <Niche> Yes, all of that triunity
[10:54] <whoppergator> hazamonzo: google reveals!: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/ just browse to the version you want
[10:54] <triunity> is it giving you::
[10:55] <triunity> grub>
[10:55] <Tophen> As i was going to boot off it. Seeing as how I can't, I'm running it through a vm on windows.
[10:55] <Niche> Yes, grub>
[10:55] <hazamonzo> whoppergator: Aww thanks pal :)
[10:55] <Tophen> And when I'm choosing to boot it on that I can't see it.
[10:55] <triunity> Niche, dude, you are at the wrong screen...
[10:55] <milamber> Tophen: i think ext2read is what you are looking for
[10:55] <Tophen> Ok, ill check that out. Thanks.
[10:55] <triunity> You need to be on a live cd to do this
[10:56] <milamber> but auronandace is correct. if you have files you will need access to on both machines it is best to set up a fat/ntfs partition
[10:56] <Niche> I didn't type that stuff in grub> I did it in terminal on the live cd. After rebooting, I get stuck at grub>
[10:56] <triunity> Ohh ok...
[10:57] <triunity> Go to live cd and do this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/667201/
[10:57] <triunity> This purges your current grub config
[10:57] <triunity> But only do this, don't do the other commands
[10:57] <sgo11> ricky26, well. I have setup 1920x1080 with xrandx successfully now. by --newmode and then --addmode. but the screen display looks fuzzy....
[10:58] <triunity> in theory, it will log you straight into ubuntu, and you will lose windowz for a lil while, but after the fact, once your in ubuntu, running the last part will give you windows back
[10:58] <ricky26> sgo11: You probably need to tweak the timings, look at the mode in xrandr on the PC where it works. :p
[10:59] <triunity> I had to do this once, when i changed my swap file allocations http://paste.ubuntu.com/667201/
[10:59] <sgo11> ricky26, how to do that? i even don't know what the timings is....
[10:59] <Night-Hacks> hi
[10:59] <Ramses> hello
[10:59] <Night-Hacks> is there any games to play in bash ?
[10:59] <ricky26> Night-Hacks: nethack, install it.
[11:00] <Niche> Doing now, crossing my fingers
[11:00] <triunity> I have faith in you!
[11:00] <triunity> Plus, what could possably go wrong?
[11:00] <triunity> ;_)
[11:01] <ricky26> sgo11: I can't find the flag to show the timing values in xrandr. XD
[11:01] <Night-Hacks> ricky26: are they just Net games ?
[11:01] <ricky26> sgo11: Gimme a sec.
[11:01] <ricky26> Night-Hacks: nethack is not a net game. ;p
[11:01] <sgo11> ricky26, ok. thanks.
[11:01] <rabbi1> font viewer isn't starting. any suggestion , can't find gnome-font-viewer in syn mgr also... how can i reinstall ?
[11:01] <triunity> Night-Hack, Ubuntu Software Center has plenty of games...
[11:02] <Night-Hacks>  triunity: just want bash games
[11:02] <ricky26> sgo11: xrandr --verbose
[11:02] <Night-Hacks> while working on server and ...
[11:02] <ricky26> sgo11: Look for the correct resolution on both PCs
[11:02] <ricky26> sgo11: Presumably the timing values (all the extra added lines) will be different
[11:03] <ricky26> sgo11: You can then do --newmode like so:
[11:03] <ricky26> sgo11: xrandr --newmode "1024x768" 63.50  1024 1072 1176 1328  768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync
[11:03] <ricky26> Where you've got
[11:04] <sgo11> ricky26, ok. should I remove the one I added first?
[11:04] <ricky26> name, refresh, h width, h start, hend, htotal, vwidth vstart vend vtotal and then the +/- v/hsync flags
[11:04] <ricky26> sgo11: You probably should as it doesn't work
[11:04] <ricky26> :p
[11:04] <love4linux> Hello.. I installed ubuntu 11.04 on an Asus Eee Pc 1015pe and the wireless card (RT3090) is not functioning. It is recognized by ubuntu in lspci but the networkmanager refuses to start the wireless device.. can anyone help me?
[11:05] <love4linux> any drivers maybe that i have to install?
[11:05] <ricky26> love4linux: lspci just lists the hardware identifiers for a device, you should check whether a driver is loaded for it.
[11:05] <Night-Hacks> love4linux: use hardware and drivers
[11:05] <whoppergator> rabbi1: how are you starting the font viewer?
[11:05] <love4linux> okay checking it now
[11:05] <rabbi1> whoppergator: from menu....
[11:06] <rabbi1> whoppergator: -%u
[11:06] <whoppergator> rabbi1: for me, it's not working unless i start it from the command line and pass in a font file
[11:06] <rabbi1> whoppergator: gnome-font-viewer %u
[11:06] <farhad2161> Can i install gcc from ubuntu-server-11 CD?how?
[11:06] <chewy> hi guys, i d like to make my IP be another one. is there an easy way for such a thing? (is it called a proxy?)
[11:07] <triunity> chewy.  lrn2socks5
[11:07] <whoppergator> rabbi1: have you tried that from the command line?
[11:07] <rabbi1> whoppergator: yeah, it gives Error opening file: No such file or directory
[11:07] <triunity> chewy, do you want to change your internal or external ip address?
[11:07] <Niche> STILL at grub> after running those commands in live CD trinity :S
[11:07] <chewy> triunity, well, i d like to mod the external ip address.
[11:08] <chewy> :)
[11:08] <triunity> Niche, dude... I don't know what else to try.
[11:08] <whoppergator> rabbi1: well that sounds like a path issue then, not a problem with the program
[11:08] <sgo11> ricky26, when I run xrandr --rmmode "1920x1080_60.00", I got "X Error of failed request:  BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)" that name is the one I added.
[11:08] <chewy> what do you suggest?
[11:08] <triunity> I mean, other than a complete reinstall... but dude... you did everything i know
[11:08] <wildbat> Niche: dual boot ?
[11:08] <Niche> Yes
[11:08] <whoppergator> rabbi1: most fonts are in the /usr/share/fonts directory
[11:09] <Niche> Well, 2 different hdds. One with W7 one with ubuntu
[11:09] <ricky26> sgo11: Have you swapped back to the small resolution?
[11:09] <chewy> Niche, what is your problem?
[11:09] <sgo11> ricky26, yeah, that is what I first did.
[11:09] <farhad2161> Can i install gcc from ubuntu-server-11 CD?how?
[11:09] <szal> Niche: did you change HDD boot order in the BIOS in the meantime?
[11:09] <triunity> Chewy, if you are trying to change your external ip, that is more of a learning thing...
[11:09] <triunity> http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=how+to+use+proxys&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=K9c&channel=fs&sa=X&ei=zk9KTo_7OIHliAKtqPmJBw&ved=0CB0QvwUoAQ&q=how+to+use+proxies&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=397223445fdb8fcb&biw=1280&bih=875
[11:09] <Niche> Can't get either to boot
[11:09] <love4linux> Night-Hacks i cant find anything listing "hardware and drivers"... I only found "additional drivers" in the control center
[11:09] <ricky26> sgo11: x__x no idea. try adding the new mode and deleting it later.
[11:09] <sgo11> ricky26, maybe I should kill x first?
[11:09] <ricky26> sgo11: You might also need to sudo to remove display modes, (though I don't see why).
[11:10] <sgo11> ricky26, I tried sudo. the same error.
[11:10] <wildbat> Niche: do see if you see "boot" folder : ls /
[11:10] <rabbi1> whoppergator: ok, so what should i do, should i mention that in command line?
[11:10] <Night-Hacks>  love4linux: i meant in system->administration->
[11:10] <chewy> triunity, well i wanted to know if there was a GUI like tool for such a thing. cause i think it s a long way to go through this.
[11:10] <Niche> Szal, which hdd should boot first, w7 or ubuntu?
[11:10] <Night-Hacks>  love4linux: hardware drivers
[11:10] <love4linux> Night-Hacks strange...there is nothing there as well
[11:10] <chewy> and once i ll know how to do it (if i don t mess it all), ... well, google music will be avail. all around
[11:11] <Niche> Wildbat, no I don't think I did
[11:11] <szal> Niche: my guess is, the *buntu HDD (that's what works here w/ a dual-Linux-boot system)
[11:11] <love4linux> Night-Hacks maybe I should install a package for that?
[11:11] <Night-Hacks> love4linux: yes, im on older version
[11:11] <chewy> Niche, ... can you tell me your whole problem? new install? grub mess? lost partitions?
[11:11] <sgo11> ricky26, what is delmode? should I use --rmmode or --delmode?
[11:12] <love4linux> Night-Hacks okay brb to install that
[11:12] <triunity> Chewy, what you don't realize is, this is something you do in firefox/chrome, its not a system issue.
[11:12] <whoppergator> rabbi1: so, something like: gnome-font-viewer /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf
[11:12] <chewy> triunity, really? i thought i had to install a proxy server, like squid for instance, ...
[11:12] <triunity> chewy -- Firefox --> edit --> preferences -->advanced --> network --> connection --> settings
[11:12] <chewy> then use it as a gateway...
[11:12] <Niche> Chewy, all of the above
[11:13] <AdvoWork> milamber, basically, i have a serverA and serverB(remote)  i can use serverB locally ok, i can connect from my local pc here to serverB fine. I try and connect from serverA to serverB and it times out. This means serverB is fine? but serverA is stopping something working, but any idea what?
[11:13] <chewy> Niche, ... mmmm i arrived late, i can t read anything. if you can pastebin your problem...
[11:13] <triunity> Ok, are you trying to BECOME the proxy, or just use a proxy?
[11:13] <farhad2161> Can i install gcc from ubuntu-server-11 CD?
[11:13] <rabbi1> whoppergator: yeah, i got that font, but that's not we need right....
[11:13] <ricky26> sgo11: I dunno, even the xrandr man pages are pretty lax. You can try --delmode too. It's not too crucial if it doesn't get deleted as it might get cleaned up when you close X11 anyway.
[11:13] <chewy> triunity, i d like to use google music. but it s only avail. in US. so i d like to make it beleive i m in US :)...
[11:13] <IdleOne> farhad2161: install build-essential package
[11:14] <chewy> so i ve heard i should go the proxy way..
[11:14] <chewy> but it seems so hard, ...
[11:14] <dirk_> Hi guys, I have a question. I can't get my dualscreen working right. Looks like he is stretching my wallpaper but I can't drag application to my other monitor. I read somewhere that I need to disable 'seperate X screen' and enable TwinView but it's disabled and I can't click it. Any idea's? :-)
[11:14] <Niche> I changed my hdd boot priorities. Now my pc hangs before even getting to the grub>
[11:14] <triunity> Ok chewy, you do NOT need a proxy server for that.  A proxy server will allow you to BECOME a proxy, which you dont want or need
[11:14] <whoppergator> rabbi1: so what are you after again?
[11:14] <triunity> You need to use a basic proxy to mask your ip...
[11:14] <milamber> AdvoWork: it sounds like a router issue. if you can connect locally to a server, but not remotely, it is more likely than not a router configuration issue
[11:15] <wildbat> Niche: what you see in the ls ?
[11:15] <rabbi1> whoppergator: just a normal font viewer how we get in windows....
[11:15] <farhad2161> IdleOne: how?can u give me the command?
[11:15] <chewy> Niche. ok. triunity, ok too. thanks a lot, so in browser this should be enough?
[11:15] <sgo11> ricky26, ok. brb. let me kill X first. thanks.
[11:15] <rabbi1> whoppergator: i think we got to load something different
[11:15] <triunity> Chewy, for a basic howto --> http://technicalbliss.blogspot.com/2007/04/how-to-use-free-proxy-with-firefox.html
[11:15] <triunity> Yeppers
[11:15] <chewy> Niche, you changed in grub the hdd priority?
[11:15] <IdleOne> farhad2161: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:15] <whoppergator> rabbi1: you'll have to define normal for me. are you looking for a font browser, or a font-viewer?
[11:16] <rabbi1> whoppergator: what do you think of fontmatrix ?
[11:16] <chewy> Niche, you can no longer access your grub interface? even by hitting e at the boot prompt?
[11:16] <farhad2161> IdleOne: i wnat to install from cd,this command do nothing
[11:16] <rabbi1> whoppergator: in that case, font browser
[11:16] <farhad2161> IdleOne: this command try to connetct to internet
[11:16] <AdvoWork> milamber, but i can connect remotely to it, via a local pc, just not from serverA.. serverA is an ubuntu dedicated server, so surely something has to be stopping the connection from going out?
[11:16] <chewy> if your system is THAT bad, you just have to chroot into it from a live distro, liveDVD or live USB. and repair the boot/grub whatever.
[11:16] <triunity> IdleOne, try:
[11:16] <triunity> ping google.com
[11:16] <milamber> AdvoWork: do you have a firewall on the server?
[11:16] <chewy> thank you triunity
[11:17] <triunity> To insure that you have interwebz
[11:17] <Niche> Aha, I chose the incorrect hdd. I am now successfully booting ubuntu after changing priority.
[11:17] <Niche> Yay!
[11:17] <triunity> Heyy Niche!!! Good job!!!
[11:17] <triunity> I never doubted you
[11:17] <triunity> (ok, that might be a slight lie)
[11:17] <Niche> Bahaha
[11:18] <chewy> Niche, great. this was one line in grub then?
[11:18] <whoppergator> rabbi1: oO, yeah then you'll need to install something else, maybe xfontsel or gfontview
[11:18] <chewy> :)
[11:19] <rabbi1> fontmatrix is in the syp mgr...... will check these two aswell
[11:19] <Niche> Yeah
[11:19] <doritey> Ok I've decided to emulate Ubuntu via vmware
[11:19] <doritey> but I'm wondering, will the 64 bit version work on my MBP?
[11:19] <rabbi1> whoppergator: thank you.... mix of words, how these people name it.... :) ha ha
[11:19] <chewy> or the BIOS chose the bad HDD? :D  glad you solved it.  i have to go guys. triunity, thanks! that s a nice start. then i have to do the same in linux, and to find a US ip address :)
[11:19] <doritey> Because it says 64bit AMD and the MBP has an intel processor
[11:19] <whoppergator> rabbi1: great, yeah go with that, the x tool and the gfontview are really old
[11:20] <milamber> doritey: MBP?
[11:20] <doritey> Macbook pro.
[11:20] <doritey> Pro*
[11:20] <rabbi1> whoppergator: thank you..... :)
[11:20] <doritey> MacBook*
[11:20] <Niche> Hey guys, when I enter "sudo grub-update" it's saying command not found
[11:20] <milamber> !amd64 | doritey
[11:20] <doritey> But it doesn't offer an Intel download
[11:20] <love4linux> Night-Hacks the only application that I found about listing hardware is lshw-gtk... is that the one you are talking about?
[11:20] <doritey> only ADM
[11:20] <doritey> AMD*
[11:21] <milamber> doritey: basically amd64 and intel 64 are the same. amd just went to market first so that's what everyone calls it
[11:21] <doritey> Okay.
[11:21] <doritey> Cool.
[11:21] <doritey> Thanks.
[11:22] <Night-Hacks> love4linux: let me check
[11:23] <love4linux> Night-Hacks how would this application help me fix my wireless NIC? shouldn't I check if the module for the wireless card is loaded in the kernele?
[11:23] <Night-Hacks>  love4linux: have you installed the driver ?
[11:23] <_aaron_> I am having errors setting up my dhcp server problems with some kind of configuration
[11:24] <AdvoWork> milamber, afaik no, can i check some how(that was my original Q when i came on this forum really) i've looked at iptables -L can't see anything atall for outgoing, but i dont see anything blocked?
[11:24] <love4linux> Night-Hacks emm no I havent but I searched in synaptic for ralink or rt3090 and it didnt come up with anything... do you know the name of the driver for this wireless nic?
[11:25] <milamber> AdvoWork: you are trying to access mysql remotely correct?
[11:25] <AdvoWork> yeah
[11:25] <AdvoWork> but the remote server allows connections from my local pc, just not from my ubuntu server
[11:26] <whoppergator> _aaron_: more details...
[11:26] <milamber> AdvoWork: are your server and the local pc on the same lan?
[11:26] <neumaennl> hi, I want one of the partitions of my HDD to be mounted rw on boot. I tried pysdm, but when I had that program mount the partition, eclipse could not access it, even though ls -l showed that it was writeable. When I mount the partition via the file manager, eclipse has no problem accessing it.
[11:27] <sgo11> ricky26, when I run "xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00"  148.50  1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync". I got error:"X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)".
[11:27] <_aaron_> whoppergator, Not configured to run on any interface
[11:27] <th0r> neumaennl: create an entry for it in /etc/fstab
[11:27] <milamber> !fstab | neumaennl
[11:28] <Night-Hacks> love4linux: check it
[11:28] <AdvoWork> milamber, no, the ubuntu server is a dedicated server hosted elsewhere, and the new dedicated server(remote) is also hosted elsewhere off this network
[11:28] <Night-Hacks>  love4linux: lspci -k
[11:28] <ricky26> sgo11: o___o
[11:28] <neumaennl> how does the file manager know which name to use in /media/ to mount the partition?
[11:28] <Night-Hacks> love4linux: check your nic is using which module
[11:28] <Jim455R> i finished playing with ubuntu. what now
[11:29] <szal> Night-Hacks: in the case of automount, it either uses the volume label or, lacking one, the device node name
[11:29] <whoppergator> _aaron_: that would seem pretty self-explanitory to me, have you double-checked your config file?
[11:29] <love4linux> Night-Hacks I found a threat in ubuntu's forum about this wnic and i have to install proprietary drivers from ralink
[11:29] <milamber> AdvoWork: all i can say, again, is that it sounds like it is a router issue. do you have access to the router for the server that is not connecting?
[11:29] <love4linux> Night-Hacks I will do that I ll check back with you
[11:29] <Jim455R> guys in gnome. do you konw the close/maximize/minimize icons at the top right corner ?
[11:29] <AdvoWork> milamber, a router stopping the connection IN, or out?
[11:30] <Night-Hacks> szal: what you mean ?
[11:30] <sgo11> ricky26, I am getting crazy on this. will VGA cable quality affect the screen resolution? I never knew this before...
[11:30] <_aaron_> whoppergator, I can't remember how to specify it in my config searched google but no help there
[11:30] <whoppergator> _aaron_: what dhcp server are you using then?
[11:30] <dirk_> Jim455R: What about it?
[11:31] <milamber> AdvoWork: server going out. it is common practice to prevent servers from outgoing connections so in case they are compromised they can't report out anywhere
[11:31] <ricky26> sgo11: Honestly, I have no idea, but not that I know of. : <
[11:31] <_aaron_> whoppergator, isc-dhcp-server
[11:31] <Jim455R> dirk_ is there a way to change the size ?
[11:31] <szal> Night-Hacks: wrong nick, that was supposed to go to neumaennl
[11:31] <sgo11> ricky26, let me try something else. thanks. brb,.
[11:32] <whoppergator> Jim455R: what about icons?
[11:32] <_aaron_> love4linux, Night-Hacks, rtl8187 driver should work
[11:32] <AdvoWork> milamber, ahh ok, fair enough. i cant get access to their router as such, would this be in any config files or anything
[11:33] <dirk_> Jim455R: System/Preferences/Appearance and go to fonts.
[11:33] <Night-Hacks> _aaron_: i think so but love4linux says it doesnt.
[11:33] <whoppergator> _aaron_: so, have you gone to /etc/default/dhcp3 and looked for INTERFACES=""?
[11:33] <_aaron_> whoppergator, yes
[11:33] <love4linux> _aaron_ should i get that from ralink's website?
[11:33] <Jim455R> then
[11:34] <whoppergator> _aaron_: so what's the problem then? i guess i don't understand
[11:34] <milamber> AdvoWork: probably not, you would have to convince the network admin that your server should have outbound privileges. and the probability of that going over well is inversely proportional to beard length
[11:34] <_aaron_> love4linux, Night-Hacks, the best place for information on wireless drivers for linux is backtrack but thats all i can say
[11:34] <dirk_> Jim455R: You can adjust Window title font.
[11:35] <_aaron_> whoppergator, i have even tried to fallow this tut http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-and-configure-dhcp-server-in-ubuntu-server.html
[11:35] <zhanglearn> hi,all
[11:35] <dirk_> Hello
[11:36] <dirk_> lol
[11:36] <zhanglearn> how can we use syslog?
[11:37] <whoppergator> _aaron_: so you set-up your configuration file, kicked off the init.d and got an interfaces error? i don't know what your level of networking experience is, so don't be offended, but did you check that your interface is named correctly and up?
[11:37] <dirk_> zhanglearn: What do you mean with 'use'?
[11:37] <love4linux> _aaron_ okays... i ll check that if anything else doesnt work
[11:38] <_aaron_> whoppergator, It doesn't matter what experiance anyone has any and everyone makes mistakes lol
[11:38] <zhanglearn> it means which kind of message should be logged by syslog and which should by our own log server?
[11:39] <dirk_> Anyone experienced with dualmonitor setups?
[11:39] <Zutara> dirk_: I yes
[11:39] <Zutara> *yes
[11:39] <whoppergator> _aaron_: :)
[11:39] <dirk_> Zutara: I can't get my dualscreen working right. Looks like he is stretching my wallpaper but I can't drag application to my other monitor. I read somewhere that I need to disable 'seperate X screen' and enable TwinView but it's disabled and I can't click it. Any idea's? :-)
[11:40] <Zutara> hm. tried resatrting x?
[11:40] <Zutara> *restarting
[11:41] <dirk_> Does a reboot count? (Using Ubuntu since 2 days.)
[11:41] <Zutara> yes. scratch that off the list. lol
[11:41] <Zutara> .....
[11:41] <dr_willis> dirk_:  whats your video chipset
[11:41] <dirk_> Nvidia
[11:42] <Zutara> ditto
[11:42] <Zutara> I have problems with mine
[11:42] <_aaron_> whoppergator, why is "/etc/init.d/networking restart" deprecated
[11:42] <dr_willis> any more details then that dirk.... ;)
[11:42] <Zutara> dirk_:  do /exec -o -inxi -G in here
[11:42] <Zutara> Graphics:  Card nVidia NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] X.Org 1.7.6 Res: 1920x1024@50.0hz
[11:42] <Zutara>            GLX Renderer GeForce 6600 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! GLX Version 2.1.2 NVIDIA 195.36.24
[11:43] <dirk_> sh: Illegal option -
[11:43] <AdvoWork> how can i tell if iptables is stopping a connection out of the server?
[11:43] <whoppergator> _aaron_: i think the idea is that using init.d scripts in general is depreciated
[11:43] <Zutara> hm
[11:43] <Zutara> XChat dirk?
[11:43] <dr_willis> whoppergator:  cirrect
[11:43] <dirk_> yes :p
[11:43] <dr_willis> correct
[11:44] <dirk_> Want me to change client?
[11:44] <Zutara> and "/exec -o inxi -G" no dash before inxi. woops. :p
[11:44] <dirk_> sh: inxi: not found
[11:45] <Zutara> ok.. WTH?
[11:45] <Zutara> weird
[11:45] <dr_willis> !find inxi
[11:45] <dr_willis> ive never seen inxi befor today.
[11:45] <Zutara> seriously?
[11:45] <html> hi yall
[11:45] <dr_willis> yes..
[11:45] <Zutara> hey html
[11:45] <Zutara> dr_willis: wow
[11:46] <html> Zutara,  hi :)
[11:46] <Zutara> how long you been kicking Ubuntu?
[11:46] <html> ]me ?
[11:46] <dirk_> sh: /home/dirk/bin/inxi: not found
[11:46] <dirk_> sh: pastebinit: not found
[11:46] <syn4pse> hello
[11:46] <Zutara> ^@willis
[11:46] <dirk_> hm
[11:46] <html> Zutara,  me ?
[11:46] <Zutara> no
[11:46] <Zutara> dr_willis
[11:46] <Zutara> lol
[11:46] <_aaron_> whoppergator, no subnet declaration for eth0
[11:47] <html> his the doc , i bet  most of the time linux his been around
[11:47] <dr_willis> inxi is not in ubintu as far as i can tell from searching the repos
[11:47] <whoppergator> _aaron_: so are you up and running?
[11:47] <Zutara> Why is there no repeat in minitube? That'd save my life right now.
[11:48] <dirk_> I can try download the plugin for XChat.
[11:48] <Zutara> inxi isn't in ubuntu? should be. it works fine in Mint 9 LTS
[11:48] <dr_willis> ubuntu is nit mint..  ;)
[11:48] <Zutara> it's based off of it. so most everything should apply. including that
[11:49] <dr_willis> Zutara:  sparently not true
[11:49] <_aaron_> whoppergator, nope apparently i have to in my dhcp.conf file declare that it is to bind to eth0
[11:49] <bayu> test
[11:49] <szal> [13:45:21] <ubottu> File inxi found in quassel-data <- just to remind you that you don't have to guess
[11:50] <whoppergator> _aaron_: yes, that is the INTERFACES line, no?
[11:50] <dr_willis> this is why we send mint users to the mint channels
[11:50] <Zutara> .........
[11:50]  * Zutara scratches head
[11:50] <Zutara> it wasn't working wearlier. So I've been here for 3 hours
[11:50] <_aaron_> whoppergator, that line is in a different file
[11:50] <Zutara> *earlier
[11:50] <triunity> Can we ask Kubuntu specific questions in here?
[11:50] <bayu> Zutara:Hai..
[11:51] <leonidas__> leonidas__
[11:51] <Zutara> hey bayu
[11:51] <_aaron_> whoppergator, http://paste.ubuntu.com/667230/
[11:51] <dr_willis> triunity: yes
[11:51] <szal> triunity: yes, you can, but you should prefer #kubuntu for that
[11:51] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey peeps  what tool do I use in a fresh install of ubuntu to connect to my windows/.cifs shares?
[11:51] <triunity> Does Kubuntu have a guest session, like ubuntu?
[11:52] <dr_willis> Eryn_1983_FL:  the filemanager should be able to do that
[11:52]  * szal doesn't know of a pre-installed guest account
[11:52] <Eryn_1983_FL> which one?
[11:52] <bayu> Zutara:Respectfull greeting from Indonesia,thanks
[11:52] <whoppergator> _aaron_: ok :)
[11:52] <dr_willis> gnomes nautilus. and others
[11:52] <Zutara> Indonesia? nice.
[11:52] <Zutara> Nautilus Rules
[11:54] <Eryn_1983_FL> its  trying..
[11:54] <html> if i got a lighter login manager  , what would happen , 10.10 remix, atom 1.6 ghz  1gb ddr3
[11:55] <dr_willis> Eryn_1983_FL:  you can aleays try enering the url directly if browsing dont work
[11:55] <Zutara> html: like a lighter Window and/or desktop manager?
[11:55] <urlin2u> html, do you mean desktop?
[11:55] <Eryn_1983_FL> yeah there is no url bar on nautilus
[11:55] <Zutara> less CPU use for a lightweight WM/DM
[11:55] <dr_willis> ie  smb://ip.of.the.bix/sgarename
[11:55] <dr_willis> Eryn_1983_FL:  is to... ctrl l
[11:55] <szal> dr_willis: please readjust your fingers :P
[11:56] <Eryn_1983_FL> ...
[11:56] <Eryn_1983_FL>  ok that wokied
[11:56] <Eryn_1983_FL> dr_willis:  I would never of though to do that..
[11:56] <Eryn_1983_FL> thats like wow.
[11:56] <Zutara> :)
[11:56] <dr_willis> share browsing is always briken for me
[11:57] <Eryn_1983_FL> yeah
[11:57] <html> urlin2u, , Zutara ,a lighter login manager  ,
[11:57] <dr_willis> 1box i got sees all the lan sharra
[11:57] <Zutara> uhhhh
[11:57] <Zutara> How do you mean?
[11:57] <dr_willis> and thats my boxee bix.
[11:58] <Eryn_1983_FL> achooo
[11:58] <Eryn_1983_FL> wowie
[11:58] <urlin2u> html, lighter login manager do you have any in mind?
[11:58] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok thanks  dr_willis
[11:58] <theadmin> urlin2u: Try lxdm. Desktop-independent, very lightweight and easily configurable
[11:58] <gigitux> hello
[11:58] <liaquat> I am new user of Ubuntu 11.04. I don't know how to install scim avro
[11:58] <liaquat> Pls help me how to install scim avro
[11:58] <dr_willis> lighter login manager wont gain a lot. theres slim and lightdm :)
[11:58] <urlin2u> theadmin, why I'm not asking?
[11:58] <bazhang> liaquat, you mean ibus?
[11:59] <Zutara> liaquat: sudo apt-get install ...
[11:59] <theadmin> urlin2u: Sorry?
[11:59] <Marchael> Hi, is there something way for updating ubuntu to ubuntu server?
[11:59] <html> urlin2u, yes, i heard the linux action show talking about it on there most recent show
[11:59] <urlin2u> theadmin, ;-----)
[11:59] <bazhang> !lamp > Marchael
[11:59] <Zutara> Marchael: you'll have to reinstall everything
[11:59] <liaquat> I would like to type Bengali on my system
[11:59] <bazhang> liaquat, then use ibus
[11:59] <dr_willis> Marchael:  just istall the services you want. and the server kernel if needed
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:00] <szal> moin BluesKaj
[12:00] <BluesKaj> hey szal
[12:00] <liaquat> it says unable to locate
[12:00] <nicker913> hey everybody
[12:00] <liaquat> What does ib mean?
[12:00] <bazhang> !info ibus | liaquat
[12:01] <gigitux> :D
[12:01] <_aaron_> whoppergator, I think I might know whats wrong and how to fix it I will let you know in about 5 min's
[12:01] <Zutara> hi gigitux
[12:01] <html> urlin2u,yes i wanted to know if there is a speed itmprovement, from the stock ubuntu 10.10 remix on my netbook
[12:01] <liaquat> not clear. I don't understand this.
[12:01] <An_Ony_Moose> I have ubuntu installed on a logical partition and want to move it to the first primary partition. What is the chance of success if I use dd to copy the partition, then modify fstab as necessary and update grub?
[12:01] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ibus liaquat
[12:02] <urlin2u> html, your best speed imporovment would be more ram I have the same chip with 2 gigs, but the lxde desktop was suggested, does that sound familiar from the show?
[12:03] <gigitux> :D
[12:08] <html> but i cant buy it , and yes
[12:09] <_aaron_> whoppergator, nope didn't work
[12:09] <p3rsist> Anyone has a good ppa backport for PHP 5.3.6?
[12:10] <whoppergator> _aaron_: so i just started one on my computer to test, and it seems to be up
[12:10] <ycy> hi there
[12:10] <cliffton> any one up
[12:10] <cliffton> i need help agian
[12:10] <dirk_> Shout
[12:10] <bazhang> cliffton, then ask
[12:11] <_aaron_> whoppergator, did your eth0 already have an ip address
[12:11] <jjjjjj> ÅóÓÑÃÇºÃ£¡ÏëÎÒÁËÂð£¿¿´ÎÒ¸øÄãÃÇ´øÊ²Ã´ºÃ¶«Î÷ÁË......
[12:11] <bazhang> p3rsist, why that particular version check the ppa search page on launchpad
[12:11] <jjjjjj> #ubuntu-tw
[12:11] <bazhang> jjjjjj, /join
[12:11] <cliffton> ok, so i have an external usb drive connected, but it's read only and I cant change it to anything else,
[12:11] <whoppergator> _aaron_: i did it over wireless, so to prevent a disconnect here, i left it up the whole time. yes it already has an ip address
[12:11] <cixa> hello, how di i install this package: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+package/conkeror
[12:12] <_aaron_> whoppergator, ok because my eth0 doesn't have a ip yet
[12:12] <_aaron_> whoppergator, that could be the problem
[12:13] <whoppergator> _aaron_: umm, you should manual establish one. it can't assign itself an ip after all
[12:13] <dirk_> cliffton: Google says: Mount USB, open Gparted, find the device en unmount?
[12:13] <_aaron_> whoppergator, how do I staticly assign a ip agian, ifconfig FOO
[12:13] <bazhang> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/i386/conkeror/0.9.2+git100804-1ubuntu1 cixa from this link
[12:14] <cliffton> darn it brb sorry guys stick with me dirk
[12:14] <liaquat> How can I type Bengali in Ububtu 11.04?
[12:14] <whoppergator> _aaron_: yah, or for something more permanent just configure it in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:14] <liaquat> I have found no way????????????????????
[12:15] <bazhang> !ibus | liaquat
[12:15] <bazhang> liaquat, I gave you a link to read earlier, here it is again; please read it this time
[12:15] <liaquat> In the dropdown menu I don't find Bengali
[12:15] <bazhang> liaquat, then install the language package
[12:15] <liaquat> How to do that??????
[12:15] <_aaron_> whoppergator, how by that i mean what tags, switches, commands  via the interface file
[12:16] <bazhang> liaquat, did you read the link?
[12:16] <cliffton> ok im back sorrry aobut that, installing g parted now
[12:16] <dirk_> :)
[12:16] <liaquat> I read it but found no Bengali
[12:16] <liaquat> How to install language pack?
[12:16] <clu3> guys, where is the active desktop bg image kept? (I'm using gnome)
[12:16] <cixa> bazhang: thanks
[12:16] <liaquat> bazhang, how to install language pack?
[12:17] <clu3> liaquat, use apt-get ?
[12:17] <cliffton> dirk_ what was step after installing g parted? also i can reformat and partition if i need to,
[12:17] <bazhang> !info language-support-bn | liaquat
[12:17] <bazhang> liaquat, install that ^
[12:17] <whoppergator> _aaron_: something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/667249/ or did you mean something else?
[12:17] <dirk_> cliffton: Unmount the device with Gparted and mount again.
[12:18] <CarlFK> where can I see a partition's guid?
[12:18] <bazhang> CarlFK, using sudo blkid ?
[12:18] <_aaron_> whoppergator, thats exactly what i ment one sec got to fix it now
[12:18] <CarlFK> bazhang: yep - thanks
[12:18] <Jim455R> is there any easy and good theme editor in ubuntu?
[12:19] <cliffton> ok i unmounted how do i remount? or just unplug and plug back in
[12:19] <Jim455R> full featured one
[12:19] <dirk_> yep
[12:20] <cliffton> dirk_: "failed ot mount, the enclosing drive for the volume is locked"
[12:21] <_aaron_> whoppergator, whats the location of that file again
[12:21] <dirk_> Hm, let me check that. Moment.
[12:22] <cliffton> i appreciate it
[12:22] <whoppergator> _aaron_: /etc/network/interfaces
[12:23] <stix> Anyone tried the oem-config tool? Everytime I run the oem-config-prepare command, I can no longer boot my ubuntu?
[12:23] <clu3> hello,when i import a new bg image for desktop, where is that image file copied to?
[12:24] <dirk_> cliffton: Did you use the pendrive in Windows?
[12:24] <cliffton> it's an external usb hard drive, and yes i have used in windows but it has been formated since thin
[12:24] <cliffton> then*
[12:25] <dirk_> It's NTFS, maybe you can try to format it in FAT32?
[12:25] <qin> clu3: Tooltip shows path, mouseover in image in gnome-apperance...
[12:26] <qin> *on
[12:26] <cliffton> k one sec
[12:27] <_aaron_> whoppergator, thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you, your welcome to come over anytime for some booze btw can you point me in the direction of how to setup samba server via terminal
[12:28] <hashpling> to repair a filesystem should we "sudo fsck -p -v -u /dev/sdb1" ?
[12:28] <clu3> qin, i added a new image from /home/clu3/Desktop/bg.jpg and I activated it. Now the gconf value of /desktop/background/picture_filename is still /home/clu3/Desktop/bg.jpg . What's weird is i already moved that file bg.jpg to another location, yet the desktop still shows, so it must have been incorporated to Gnome somehow, i wanna modify that value
[12:29] <bazhang> !samba > _aaron_
[12:29] <clu3> qin, gnome-appearance list doesn't have that image in the list
[12:29] <_eddie_> hello, my high and critical cpu temperatures are messed up since i installed ubuntu. can someone help me get it fixed?
[12:29] <hashpling> to repair a filesystem should we "sudo fsck -p -v -u /dev/sdb1" ?
[12:29] <_eddie_> I don't seem to find a solution on a web
[12:29] <_eddie_> on the web*
[12:30] <dirk_> _eddie_: How high is it?
[12:30] <_eddie_> ~70
[12:30] <qin> clu3: Do new gconf setting stays after reboot?
[12:30] <_eddie_> dirk_, high and critical are 100*C
[12:30] <clu3> qin, yep
[12:30] <hashpling> how do i repair a corrupted file system?
[12:30] <clu3> i already rebooted, and it's still the old path.
[12:31] <_eddie_> dirk_, and my regular cpu temp is ~70*C
[12:31] <whoppergator> _aaron_: chk the bot pm and you should be good to go, have fun
[12:31] <qin> clu3: What about bg?
[12:31] <_aaron_> whoppergator, oh i almost forgot how do i add it so any server that I want is started when the machine starts
[12:31] <dirk_> _eddie_: Which version do you use?
[12:31] <clu3> qin, the bg works as expected, i.e the image is now the bg
[12:31] <_eddie_> dirk_, 11.04
[12:31] <RichiH> do i need to add a multimedia repository to ubuntu same as for debian or are the packages in multiverse current and with all codecs, etc?
[12:32] <clu3> qin, so basically gnome must keep /clone that bg image to somewhere else
[12:32] <hashpling> how do i repair a corrupted file system?
[12:32] <dirk_> _eddie_: Strange. Because I read it was a bug on 8.04.
[12:32] <qin> clu3: Did you try to move pic, to test it?
[12:32] <bazhang> RichiH, ubuntu-restricted-extras covers most everything, you could perhaps take a look at medibuntu.org for anything else
[12:33] <clu3> qin, i already did, and reboot. The pic was on my Desktop, now my desktop is totally clean
[12:33] <dirk_> _eddie_: Does it reboot, or slowing your system down?
[12:33] <clu3> what i actually wanna do is how to activate an image to be active bg image , from command line
[12:34] <_eddie_> dirk_, sometimes when it is overloaded it turns off
[12:34] <cliffton> ok i formatted fat32 my only issue is im going to use unetbooting to put  win 7 instalation files on it, and i thought htose had to be ntfs format?
[12:34] <_eddie_> dirk_, I figured that is CPU way of defence
[12:34] <_eddie_> from overheating
[12:35] <whoppergator> _aaron_: if you mean how do you control what services start automagically on boot, then i usually install sysv-rc-conf
[12:35] <theadmin> cliffton: Unetbootin does not support windows 7, you.
[12:35] <qin> clu3: Interesting, find ~ -name yourpicnamehere ?
[12:35] <dirk_> _eddie_: Yes, that's good. I just hoped it didn't and the cpu monitor was just crazy :P.
[12:35] <clu3> qin, i tried that too, from / , and could only find my moved bg.jpg image
[12:36] <cliffton> i know it doesnt support but i read tuturial online and it said just select iso and pick your win7 iso which i got
[12:36] <clu3> qin, i just tried to modify the gconf value, directly and it activates right away
[12:36] <_eddie_> dirk_, I have hp 6730s laptop
[12:36] <whoppergator> _aaron_: the usage is sysv-rc-conf [ --level *levels* ] *service* <*on|off*>
[12:36] <clu3> do you know how to modify that gconf value from command line?
[12:36] <bazhang> whoppergator, you mean upstart
[12:37] <bazhang> !upstart | whoppergator
[12:37] <dirk_> _eddie_: And it's not just a  hardware problem? Fan that is full of dust, etc?
[12:37] <cliffton> i think this is going to work thank you guys!!
[12:37] <dirk_> Great cliffton :).
[12:37] <_aaron_> whoppergator, thanks worst comes to worst i can always man it
[12:37] <qin> gconftool -t string -s /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename pc/path/name
[12:38] <_eddie_> dirk_, I cleaned it... I mean, fan is quite I'm sure if I can speed it up it would cool CPU down
[12:38] <_eddie_> dirk_, do you know how can I speed the fan up
[12:38] <dirk_> _eddie_: Thats bad practice, it's not designed for speeding it up. You will blow up your engine.
[12:38] <[THC]AcidRain> _eddie_, send more power
[12:38] <qin> clu3: ^^^
[12:39] <clu3> qin, nm, found it :)
[12:39] <_eddie_> dirk_, so what do I do?
[12:39] <vuln> Hello there. So let's say I installed Ubuntu on Windows through WUBI. I wonder how much space my installation will have.. ?!
[12:39] <clu3> gconftool --type String --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename /home/clu3/Pictures/wallpapers/bg.jpg
[12:39] <RichiH> bazhang: thanks
[12:39] <[THC]AcidRain> vuln, it will tell you. you can set how much space a vm will have
[12:39] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, pardon?
[12:40] <bazhang> vuln, you need to expand it?
[12:40] <[THC]AcidRain> bazhang, sry. _eddie_ if you want to know that. take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, #defocus
[12:41] <vuln> [THC]AcidRain: it didn't tell me. df -h did
[12:41] <dirk_> _eddie_: Did you check your processes?
[12:41] <vuln> bazhang: I'm doing tests on this machine. But it may receive a big load of files and I don't want it to get overloaded.
[12:41] <_eddie_> dirk_, that's all I do :D I type sensors and then I type top -d .5 to check what is going on
[12:41] <whoppergator> bazhang: i still have trouble wrapping my head around upstart, how then would i tell it to start dhcpd on startup?
[12:42] <_eddie_> dirk_, now the processes are ok, around 90% idle
[12:42] <bazhang> vuln, you can expand it if need be, just check the wubiguide for how to do so
[12:42] <bazhang> !wubi > vuln
[12:42] <[THC]AcidRain> !wubi > me
[12:43] <vuln> Thank you bazhang. It may sound silly, but let's say my partition has Xgb and Ubuntu happens to have X/4gb for it (apparently according to df -h). Would it automatically expand in case more space is occupied?
[12:43] <dirk_> _eddie_: Last I would suggest is just trying a reboot? :P
[12:44] <_eddie_> dirk_, I did that as well
[12:44] <theadmin> vuln: No, it won't
[12:44] <bazhang> vuln, no, you would need to expand it
[12:44] <theadmin> bazhang: Expanding a wubi setup isn't so simple
[12:44] <dirk_> _eddie_: Sorry, can't help you any further. :(
[12:44] <bazhang> vuln, its not a vm like vbox with the dynamically expanding virtual image
[12:44] <_eddie_> dirk_, ok tnx
[12:45] <vuln> bazhang: aw, ok.
[12:46] <vuln> Thank you ;D
[12:46] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i add a user to a group if the user already exists?
[12:48] <kyle_> I have a ubuntu PC setup with some software that requires updates... And the OS sometimes needs updates. I'm scared, so i would like to update do full backups. I have plenty of external space.  What should I do.
[12:48] <html> if i got a lighter login manager  , what would happen , 10.10 remix, atom 1.6 ghz  1gb ddr3
[12:48] <Pici> 80122GXV6HPC
[12:49] <html> how do i go about attaining that login manager
[12:50] <[THC]AcidRain> kyle_, what are you scared of? when ubuntu does updates, it only updates package names. unless you are doing a distro upgrade
[12:51] <[THC]AcidRain> kyle_, and in which case, i would NOT update the os. thats just me personally. ive had bad experiences going from ubuntu 9.04 to 10.10
[12:51] <kyle_> [THC]AcidRain: Just don't want to break software with updates
[12:52] <[THC]AcidRain> kyle_, you mean like dependencies no longer being met?
[12:52] <dirk_> [THC]AcidRain: usermod -a -G groupname username
[12:52] <[THC]AcidRain> dirk_, i ended up using adduser ftpuser ftpuser. and it appeared to work.
[12:52] <dirk_> :)
[12:52] <kyle_> [THC]AcidRain: OK, but the software needs updates and I have seen people have issues with it.  So I need to make backups but you never know what these update appz do
[12:53] <kyle_> [THC]AcidRain: Yeh
[12:53] <osmosis_paul> hi, somebody know what is the name of the application to open for example remote files of other sever with my text editor in my local machine
[12:53] <html> kyle_,   [THC]AcidRain  , agreed ,  unless you are  doin the back up for you files   then you go about  a slightly diffternct
[12:53] <kyle_> [THC]AcidRain: Or the software update disabling it's own application.
[12:53] <html> waty
[12:53] <osmosis_paul> i want execute remotely an application and see the results in the local application of my machine, because that server dont have graphical interface only terminal
[12:53] <[THC]AcidRain> kyle_, well im pretty sure that when a package is updated, it never loses certain functionality.
[12:53] <dirk_> osmosis_paul: Bluefish can do that I believe.
[12:54] <[THC]AcidRain> kyle_, but hang on. you are on 10.10?
[12:54] <kyle_> yes
[12:54] <kyle_> LTS
[12:54] <EgyParadox> osmosis_paul: You can ssh the server and edit using vi
[12:54] <Pici> kyle_: 10.10 was not an LTS release.
[12:54] <Kingsy> does ubuntu have ntfs support?
[12:54] <kyle_> it's not the ubuntu i'm afaid off the most, it's the software
[12:54] <EgyParadox> Kingsy:Yes
[12:54] <kyle_> google, fog project.
[12:54] <Kingsy> awesome :)
[12:55] <Pici> Kingsy: That doesn't mean you can install it on an NTFS partition though.
[12:55] <Kingsy> EgyParadox: just wanted to check before I wipe my windows installation and try and read my other drive with ubuntu :)
[12:55] <kyle_> So anyway I would like to do a Clone zilla backup or something.  But what works the best?
[12:55] <osmosis_paul> EgyParadox, but you can not run the console o JMeter
[12:55] <Kingsy> Pici: yeah I don't need to install on ntfs.. just read it from naulilus
[12:55] <kyle_> pici: 10.4
[12:55] <Kingsy> nautilus
[12:55] <Pici> Kingsy: Thats just fine.
[12:55] <osmosis_paul> that's why i'm looking for this kind of remote application
[12:55] <Kingsy> nice :)
[12:55] <Pici> kyle_: You just said 10.10 though.
[12:55] <Jim455R> how to install windows border theme ?
[12:55] <Jim455R> in ubuntu ?
[12:55] <osmosis_paul> dirk_, bluefish dont looks like he can do that
[12:55] <Kingsy> Pici: I am finally making the move from windows to linux.. no windows machines will be left in my house
[12:55] <kyle_> pici: testing, nono. am sorry
[12:56] <Kingsy> scary stuff :)
[12:56] <Jim455R> this is not a full theme but the top titlebar
[12:56] <bazhang> !themes | Jim455R
[12:56] <dirk_> osmosis_paul: Correct. I thought you only wanted to edit text files :).
[12:56] <kyle_> pici: i know you knwo your stuff.  What should I use?
[12:56] <Jim455R> bazhang i already have the windows border theme. how to install it
[12:56] <osmosis_paul> dirk_, yeah i put that example to make it clear ;-) any other idea?
[12:56] <Pici> kyle_: I'd backup my settings and just go for it.
[12:57] <JustSighDudes> Am I seeing the same process over and over again in htop because each line is a thread or what's the deal here?
[12:57] <kyle_> Pici: yeh thats because you know linux to fix isses :(
[12:57] <bazhang> Jim455R, drag to the themes manager, assuming its a valid one, or modify in the same location
[12:57] <kyle_> pici: also do you know if ubuntu works with 512e HDD's?
[12:57] <osmosis_paul> Somebody can tell me an application to run in remote machine and get the feedback in my local application, like with text editor but with JMeter GUI
[12:58] <[THC]AcidRain> kyle_, http://www.multimediaboom.com/automate-backups-for-ubuntu-10-10-10-04/
[12:58] <osmosis_paul> and no, i cannot run remotely the JMeter, firewall stuffs
[12:58] <Pici> kyle_: A hard drive? There shouldn't be any compatiblitly problems at all there.
[12:58] <kyle_> [THC]AcidRain: yes...
[12:58] <kyle_> pici: it's a new Advanced format type..
[12:58] <[THC]AcidRain> kyle_, does this not answer your question?
[12:59] <i42n> osmosis_paul: ssh -X
[12:59] <kyle_> pici: www.dell.com/512e-drives
[12:59] <ManUnderPress> hi all guys
[12:59] <kyle_> [THC]AcidRain: Sorry, does what answer?
[12:59] <dirk_> Anyone know how I can fix the dragging problem with my dualscreen setup? I cannot drag my application to my other monitor.
[12:59] <[THC]AcidRain> the link i posted had a tool that you may be interested in called "back in time". a system backup utility
[13:00] <[THC]AcidRain> dirk_, 11.04?
[13:00] <dirk_> [THC]AcidRain: Yes
[13:00] <ManUnderPress> hello
[13:00] <kyle_> [THC]AcidRain:missed link.  I do use backintime at the moment, but i just don't know if i have captured everything i need.
[13:00] <[THC]AcidRain> dirk_, when you find out let me know :)  i been just right clicking, send to workspace
[13:01] <Pici> kyle_: It *should* work. If anything you'll just lose some usable diskspace.
[13:01] <i42n> ManUnderPress: hi
[13:01] <kyle_> [THC]AcidRain: are there files in ubuntu that will not backup because they are in use?
[13:01] <ManUnderPress> i42n : I need 2 know wt dif. btwn windows and ubuntu
[13:01] <[THC]AcidRain> Pici, but kyle_ is worried about apps being broken, cause dependencies go out of range. or some updates actually disabling apps.
[13:01] <bazhang> ManUnderPress, thats not really a support question
[13:02] <[THC]AcidRain> Pici, i have seen very few cases. and i mean like 1! where a dependency had to be 1 > 2 <
[13:02] <ManUnderPress> ok forget question
[13:02] <coz_> ManUnderPress,  full control over the system
[13:02] <Pici> [THC]AcidRain: That shouldn't happen, and where it does it should be noted in the release notes.
[13:02] <ManUnderPress> I'm beginner in ubuntu and I faced more prob.
[13:02] <[THC]AcidRain> Pici, yea thats what i thought rly.
[13:03] <bazhang> ManUnderPress, then ask clear questions, all on one line
[13:03] <coz_> ManUnderPress,  understood.. can you explain one problem at a time,, we may be able to work through them for you
[13:03]  * airtonix grumbles about grammar and english
[13:03] <ManUnderPress> and I dislike that ubuntu and find windows more reliable
[13:03] <bazhang> !ot | ManUnderPress
[13:03] <ManUnderPress> and i dislike back 2 windows again
[13:03] <osmosis_paul> i42n, what do you mean?, with ssh -X the remote terminal dont have interface grafica
[13:03] <coz_> ManUnderPress,  that is not true,, the fact is  Ubuntu is far more reliable
[13:03] <bazhang> ManUnderPress, this is ubuntu support only.
[13:04] <[THC]AcidRain> the group i added to ubuntu isnt showing up in the gui for permissions... why?
[13:04] <coz_> bazhang,  and I fall for it everytime :(
[13:04] <GoodAD> all user use ubuntu are stuxnet activated in computer.
[13:04] <[THC]AcidRain> i used groupadd ftpuser. and it doesnt show up
[13:04] <bazhang> GoodAD, that is nonsense
[13:05] <ManUnderPress> please don't be angry for me I want 2 explain my prob.
[13:05] <ManUnderPress> I will explain my prob. in ubuntu
[13:05] <GoodAD> for what ubuntu make the same problem with my fancooler, and iran have problem with centrifuge when stuxnet ubuntu are activated?
[13:05] <[THC]AcidRain> ManUnderPress, pm
[13:05] <ManUnderPress> I need 2 install sql server
[13:05] <airtonix> :>
[13:05] <Calinou> lol
[13:06] <ManUnderPress> how can I do it please
[13:06] <IdleOne> !mysql
[13:06] <ManUnderPress> also I need 2 install ssh but I've broken pack.
[13:06] <[THC]AcidRain> ManUnderPress, apt-get is your terminal default package handlr
[13:06] <ManUnderPress> what should I do ?
[13:06] <airtonix> ManUnderPress: start reading
[13:06] <Pici> ManUnderPress: Tell us what errors you are getting.
[13:07] <[THC]AcidRain> ManUnderPress, if you are wanting to install servers like these. i would first suggest upgrading to the latest distro. 11.04
[13:07] <ManUnderPress> airtonix I've read before
[13:07] <[THC]AcidRain> ManUnderPress, sudo apt-get mysql (i think) google.com
[13:07] <Pici> [THC]AcidRain: Thats unessessary.
[13:07] <airtonix> ManUnderPress: apparently not enough
[13:08] <[THC]AcidRain> Pici, for just an sql server, it is. but what about other apps that he would wish to run along side with his sql server?
[13:08] <nio707> dhello all
[13:08] <Pici> airtonix, [THC]AcidRain: enough with the rtfm suggestions.
[13:08] <ManUnderPress> I try 11.04 but I lost my desktop and all env.
[13:08] <nio707> hello all
[13:08] <Pici> ManUnderPress: You said you had a problem installing, you need to tell us what errors you are getting for us to help.
[13:09] <ManUnderPress> E: Invalid operation mysql
[13:09] <ManUnderPress> that is err
[13:09] <ManUnderPress> when try :-> sudo apt-get install mysql
[13:09] <ManUnderPress> err is : --> E: Invalid operation mysql
[13:09] <IdleOne> ManUnderPress: that error is expected because [THC]AcidRain has the habit of not giving full commands
[13:09] <napster> I use istanbul for screen casting
[13:09] <airtonix> ManUnderPress: apt-cache search mysql-server
[13:10] <napster> but I'm unable to get proper screencast
[13:10] <IdleOne> ManUnderPress: answer Pici and perhaps he can help you
[13:10] <[THC]AcidRain> IdleOne, sry :(
[13:10] <popey> napster: use recordmydesktop, ffmpeg or kazam instead?
[13:10] <ManUnderPress> ok I will search thanx all sorry 4 noisy
[13:10] <coz_> napster,   actually on linux  either  recordmydesktop or better still ffmpeg  is going to give better results for screencasting
[13:10] <airtonix> ManUnderPress: no really apt-cache search will show you the proper package name.
[13:10] <Pici> ManUnderPress: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[13:10] <napster> popey: tried recormydesktop before, but it is the same
[13:10] <napster> :(
[13:11] <popey> napster: http://lwn.net/Articles/452233/  # this is how I screencast
[13:11] <popey> works well
[13:11] <napster> popey: oops! n00b here :)
[13:11] <ManUnderPress> yea it started install :-->  sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[13:12] <ManUnderPress> thnx :)
[13:12] <ManUnderPress> Pici thnx u
[13:12] <Pici> ManUnderPress: you're welcome.
[13:12] <ManUnderPress> but I wanna know
[13:12] <ManUnderPress> I've progrmmed in visual basic 6 before
[13:12] <airtonix> . . .
[13:12] <[THC]AcidRain> i added a group to my system. "addgroup ftpuser" and the group does not show up in the right click, properties, permissions. is this normal?
[13:13] <ManUnderPress> and I sell more application
[13:13] <Pici> ManUnderPress: I'm sorry to hear that.
[13:13] <airtonix> ManUnderPress: a gui interface to track murderers?
[13:13] <ManUnderPress> can I do it in ubuntu with other programing language ?
[13:13] <[THC]AcidRain> airtonix, #ubuntu-offtopic
 oh ok
[13:14] <ManUnderPress> Pici tell me please
[13:14] <FoolsRun> Hi, I have a stupid question: I have created a bootable USB that works on most of my computers, except one old one which only supports "USB-ZIP" booting. Is there any way to make a bootable Ubuntu USB stick in USB-ZIP format?
 yes, use pyside
[13:14] <[THC]AcidRain> ManUnderPress, anything that can be done in VB6 can be done in almost any other language
[13:14] <Pici> ManUnderPress: You want a list of programming languages you can use on Linux?
[13:14] <napster> popey: I copy paste that script and tried running it
[13:15] <[THC]AcidRain> c++
[13:15] <napster> popey: but I get errors! could I paste all of them here?
 you can even program gtk with visualbasic if you compile it with mono
[13:15] <[THC]AcidRain> napster, pastebin.com
[13:15] <ManUnderPress> Pici -> sorry right now I'm beginner  in ubuntu
[13:15] <lewis93> I am on a Toshiba Satellite L500D laptop and am unsure how to get my wireless LAN card up and running. Could someone walk me through it, please?
 http://zetcode.com/tutorials/visualbasicgtktutorial/
[13:16] <napster> popey: http://pastebin.com/xEVWD88E
[13:16] <ManUnderPress> airtonix --> ok ineed 2 learn new programming language what can I start with ?
[13:16] <ManUnderPress> I will follow link thnx man
 python then python with QT
 you will love python much more than visualbasic
[13:17] <ManUnderPress> is it good with Database ?
[13:17] <popey> napster: install sox and you probably need ffmpeg from medibuntu
[13:17] <html> Kingsy,  dont wipe windows, even though i hate to say it,  but most businesses products run "ONLY wundows"   and some linux apps are only made for windows, like win32 diskmanager, to get a img on a flash drive
 of course
[13:17] <napster> popey: ok
[13:18] <MrNthDegree> ManUnderPress, it can work with SQLite MySQL and PGSQL so yes
[13:18] <lewis93> How do I install a realtek LAN driver?
[13:18] <ManUnderPress> airtonix --> I mean can I do commercial application ?
[13:18] <html> lewis93,  for ?
 of course.
[13:18] <nio707> i need to ask you guys one question since i use ubuntu 8.04lts so i think i can ask here my question about the buildroot mechanism
[13:18] <lewis93> html, for toshiba satellite pro l500d
[13:19] <theadmin> nio707: Sorry, 8.04 is no longer supported.
[13:19] <Pici> theadmin: Sure it is.
[13:19] <theadmin> Oh?
[13:19] <theadmin> !8.04
 but if you've been coddled with visualstudio then i suggest you transition to QTDesigner
[13:19] <theadmin> Pici: "ended on May 12 2011".
[13:19] <ManUnderPress> MrNthDegree --> that is good news
[13:19] <ManUnderPress> but I think I need 2 be expert in OS Ubuntu first , is it right ?
[13:20] <html> theadmin,  really  no even the packages?
 although i create most of my "Ubuntu" applications with gedit
[13:20] <Pici> theadmin: *desktop* support ended on May 12th, server support continues until 2013
[13:20] <Pici> theadmin: I'll update the factoid to clairfy.
[13:20] <theadmin> Pici: Oh... Nobody stated it's a sever. But thanks.
 using python and qt means the application you create can run on macosx, windows, linux and meego
[13:20] <MrNthDegree> ManUnderPress, no need to be an expert in Ubuntu to code in Python
[13:20] <ManUnderPress> I will
[13:20] <html> lewis93,  did you try a search ?
 http://zetcode.com/tutorials/pyqt4/
[13:22] <ManUnderPress> right now the choice is python
 that is only the basics of python and qt4, i suggest you research pyside instead of using qt4 though
[13:22] <ManUnderPress> ok I will go ahead 2 python
[13:22] <lewis93> html, yes I searched on Google but cannot find anything. The best I could find was instructions on how to install a Toshiba driver on Feodora
 http://diveintopython.org/
[13:23] <lewis93> html, would ndiswrapper work?
[13:23] <ManUnderPress> thanx all
[13:23] <ManUnderPress> thnx airtonix 4 help
[13:24] <ManUnderPress> C U later
[13:24] <Nomad1> Hello, since upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04 had some issues with my 3g modem, i.e. have to plug in and unplug at least four times before it connects, anyone had that issue. Fails to initialize the modem correctly the first couple of goes.
[13:24] <html> lewis93,  drivers from that era is hard to come by,  and was much made , up til 10.04 ish to 10.10,
[13:24] <ksbalaji> While booting after the 1st stage, I sometimes the process hangs with blank screen and cursor at top left. How to move further without rebooting? mine is 10.04 LTS
[13:25] <iceroot> Nomad1: does the modem also have a normal usb storage? so usbmodeswitch would be an option
[13:25] <Nomad1> Yes has some USB storage on it that acts as a CD ROM.
[13:26] <Nomad1> Usually works after the third or fourth unplug though.
[13:26] <Nomad1> Also enabling and disabling 3g a couple of times will make it work as well.
[13:26] <lewis93> html, what do you suggest?
[13:27] <bazhang> lewis93, whats the chipset
[13:27] <Nomad1> It is a Nokia CS-12.
[13:28] <Nomad1> Thanks for the advice though about the usb mode switch will try that.
[13:28] <Scunizi> I got a warning yesterday that root was getting full and then almost immediately after that everything ceased to function.. reboots get me to the login screen and then error with the root full message.  I've booted to a live cd .. how do I fix from here?
[13:29] <[THC]AcidRain> http://pastebin.com/EEw9PCh1 - could someone plz verify my file permissions? still trying to get this right for my ftp server
[13:29] <lewis93> bazhang, AMD Athlon x2 2.1 GHz   - I think that is what you meant? I am unsure
[13:30] <bazhang> lewis93, please paste.ubuntu.com the output of lspci from the terminal and give us the url
[13:30] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: you need execute permission on the directories.  Not sure why you don't want ftpuser to have them on Uploads specifically
[13:31] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, but why do i need execute permissions on directories?
[13:31] <Foxik> siema
[13:31] <lewis93> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/667305/
[13:31] <bazhang> !pl | Foxik
[13:31] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: because you can't do anything inside the directory without them :D
[13:31] <g0th> hi
[13:32] <bazhang> !google | me
[13:32] <g0t> Results for | me on Google:
[13:32] <g0t> --
[13:32] <g0th> how do I get digital audio out to a surround system to work in kubuntu?
[13:32] <Foxik> it is english room?
[13:32] <Foxik> omg
[13:32] <jrib> Foxik: yes, what language do you prefer?
[13:32] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, are you sure about that? i thought to execute meant to run something like a perl script...
[13:32] <Konsole> o.o
[13:32] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: not for directories
[13:32] <Foxik> I am from Poland
[13:32] <Foxik> :D
[13:32] <tawhid111> hi Konsole
[13:32] <jrib> !pl | Foxik
[13:33] <Konsole> hello there :]
[13:33] <tawhid111> i have got a question
[13:33] <tawhid111> i just took computer science
[13:33] <tawhid111> lol
[13:33] <Konsole> Lol.
[13:33] <tawhid111> and it says
[13:33] <coz_> tawhid111,  ok  spit it out in one sentence if possible :)
[13:33] <tawhid111> Profile an HCI Developer
[13:34] <tawhid111> ok can anyone direct me to something like Profile an HCI Developer or what could i write  about plz im very confused
[13:34] <Pici> tawhid111: This doesn't sound like an Ubuntu support question, perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic would be better.
[13:34] <bazhang> g0t disable that
[13:34] <Konsole> hahah
[13:34] <tawhid111> ok done
[13:34] <coz_> tawhid111,   probably better asked in a channel like ##linux
[13:35] <dzup> !homework
[13:35] <Konsole> tawhid111, You can always google search also ;)
[13:35] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, even with 774 permissions. i still cant upload. i get critical file error - permissions
[13:35] <ubuntu> hello all!  :)
[13:36] <ubuntu> how can i join to channel?
[13:36] <lady_gh> hello world!
[13:36] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: and with 775?
[13:36] <ubuntu> hello galaxy!   :D
[13:36] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: how are you trying to upload exactly?
[13:36] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, filezilla
[13:37] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: using ssh or an ftpd?
[13:37] <[THC]AcidRain> ftpd
[13:37] <ubuntu> plz help me to join in channel X?
[13:37] <html>  HCI Developer, whats that ?
[13:37] <DeadmanIncJS> what are you trying to join ubuntu
[13:37] <lady_gh> where can i found usefull command line programs for linux ?
[13:37] <Konsole> ubuntu, try /join #channel
[13:37] <ubuntu> i eant to join in C+
[13:37] <ubuntu> + channel
[13:37] <html> dr_willis,  ...
[13:37] <Konsole> : /
[13:37] <Pici> !register | ubuntu
[13:37] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: are you sure the ftpd is running as ftpuser?
[13:37] <ubuntu> i don't hav account
[13:38] <Pici> ubuntu: you need to register one to join there.
[13:38] <Scunizi> I got a warning yesterday that root was getting full and then almost immediately after that everything ceased to function.. reboots get me to the login screen and then error with the root full message.  I've booted to a live cd .. how do I fix from here?
[13:38] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, no im not... but i am sure that i am logged in as ftpuser, and that ftpuser is added to a group called ftpuser
[13:38] <ubuntu> what?
[13:38] <Konsole> pici, Everybody loves not using google don't they ......
[13:38] <ubuntu> plz describe for me to join
[13:38] <ubuntu> :)
[13:38] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: what ftp daemon are you using?
[13:39] <[THC]AcidRain> ftpd-pro
[13:39] <Foxik> dear English men, goodby?! :D
[13:39] <Pici> ubuntu: what ubottu just said is what you need to do. If you can't follow those instructions you can ask in #freenode: /join #freenode
[13:39] <Konsole> ubuntu, if you're unsure on how to register an IRC account google search it as for joining a particular room use the /join #channel command
[13:39] <coz_> Scunizi,    look here   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140920
[13:39] <[THC]AcidRain> and proftpd is running as "acidrain"
[13:39] <html> lady_gh,  ask dr_willis,  hes the guy that can sovle or redirct you to the answer ;)
[13:39] <yorick> I'm trying to run 3D applications in 10.04 using a gnome guest session
[13:39] <yorick> but they're all crashing
[13:39] <Scunizi> coz_: thanks
[13:39] <ubuntu> tnx
[13:39] <ubuntu> very much
[13:40] <Konsole> ......
[13:40] <[THC]AcidRain> i dont see what an app is running as has anything to do with it though... im still logging in as a different user
[13:40] <html> yorick,  what are you useing?
[13:40] <Konsole> Next question will be what is C#
[13:40] <yorick> html: how do you mean?
[13:40] <yorick> html: for example quadrapassel. It segfaults on a gnome guest session
[13:41] <ubuntu> how can i work on channle in adium in macintosh(MACOSX)  ?
[13:41] <Konsole> Lol...
[13:42] <MechanisM> hello ppl. I have a problem. I used terminal as root. and tried to chmod some file. instead of it I'm recursively chmoded to 777 all /etc/ folder.. how to chmod it back? I mean I need original value.
[13:42] <Scunizi> coz_: that link might work ok if I could log into my system.  at this point I can't get past the login screen.
[13:42] <jrib> MechanisM: reinstall
[13:42] <coz_> Scunizi,  ok  mm let me check hold on
[13:42] <Konsole> MechanisM, Rofl.
[13:43] <iceroot> MechanisM: use your backup, never use a root shell never use 777
[13:43] <bazhang> Konsole, thats not helpful nor ontopic
[13:43] <Konsole> bazhang, didn't realize laughing was a topic genius. Try again.
[13:43] <iceroot> MechanisM: you can use another ubuntu-installation and read all permissions with getfacl and restore it on your system wit setfacl
[13:44] <iceroot> MechanisM: but reinstall or your backup is a better idea
[13:44] <bazhang> Konsole, this is for ubuntu support only; please take the chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:44] <Konsole> bazhang, Unless you have rules to show me stating laughing is prohibited i suggest you give it a rest.
[13:45] <auronandace> !lol | Konsole
[13:45] <iceroot> Konsole: #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:45] <coz_> Scunizi,  I am drawing a blank here,, a good search string might be     ubuntu root filesystem full
[13:45] <Konsole> Gigidy :)
[13:46] <Pici> Konsole: It is not helpful or needed to laugh at other users' problems here.
[13:46] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: pasetbin: 1) current permissions on a problem directory 2) full input and output of your issue (error) 3) ps output containing your ftp daemon
[13:47] <napster> when I use unzip, it recreates the archive directory structure while extracting files. Is there anyway to override this?
[13:47] <Scunizi> coz_: thanks .. I'm looking too.  not sure how that happened.  my root should be between 15 & 20 megs.
[13:47] <Scunizi> gigs
[13:47] <jerriy1> Hi chatters, can any of you help me on Amarok?
[13:47] <jerriy1> Amarok is totally bust
[13:47] <coz_> Scunizi,  yeah this one is a bit puzzling,, I have not come across it before,, so the cause and solution should be pretty interesting
[13:48] <jerriy1> It crashes EVERYTIME I want to play something
[13:48] <jerriy1> My system is Ubuntu 10.04 (lucid)
[13:49] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, http://pastebin.com/Wzc2nKVC
[13:49] <bazhang> jerriy1, tried other players? some corrupt music files in there perhaps? rebuilt the library?
[13:49] <yorick> I'm trying to run 3D applications in 10.04 using a gnome guest session. They all crash. They work fine on the main account however.
[13:50] <jerriy1>  bazhang: I do have other players but they don't play all the files so I'm trying to see what happens with Amarok
[13:50] <auronandace> yorick: what 3d apps?
[13:50] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: it says "anonymous access granted", is that normal/expected?
[13:51] <yorick> auronandace: all. glxgears, quadrapassel, supertux2
[13:51] <yorick> auronandace: you name it, it crashes.
[13:51] <bazhang> jerriy1, what are the problematic ones? got the w32codecs installed as well?
[13:51] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, i believe so. i never told it to connect anonymously
[13:51] <jerriy1>  bazhang: what's w32codecs?
[13:51] <repozitor> I want to login in channels with adium
[13:51] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: I would investigate this "Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply", it does not seem normal
[13:51] <repozitor> but i have'nt ip adress
[13:51] <aerosolair> plop
[13:51] <repozitor> plz help me
[13:51] <bazhang> jerriy1, from medibuntu.org , you can download the .deb from there
[13:52] <iDirk> The dualscreen dragging problem is killing me. Can't figure out why I can't drag applications to my other screen :S.
[13:52] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: what does "groups ftpuser" return in a shell?
[13:52] <yorick> auronandace: I think it might be permission-related
[13:52] <jerriy1>  bazhang: yes i have those but I'm not able to play something called windows media files
[13:52] <bazhang> jerriy1, wma?
[13:52] <[THC]AcidRain> ftpuser : users ftpuser
[13:53] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: acidrain and ftpuser should be able to write to the directory then
[13:53] <yorick> it segfaults in 0x01538328 in ?? () from /usr/lib/nvidia-current/libGLcore.so.1
[13:53] <auronandace> yorick: what is the output if you run them from the terminal?
[13:53] <bazhang> jerriy1, sounds like a drm issue rather than a amarok issue frankly
[13:53] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: can you write to the directory in a local shell (not through ftp)
[13:54] <yorick> auronandace: segmentation fault.
[13:54] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: as ftpuser
[13:54] <Scunizi> where do older kernels live in the file system?
[13:54] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, so how do i set this up to do it through ftp? cause every guide ive read to this point has told me its all about permissions
[13:54] <jerriy1> bazhang: it's QTL
[13:54] <paulo> tem como mudar para o portugues?
[13:55] <jrib> !pt | paulo
[13:55] <auronandace> yorick: hmm, odd.. not sure what to suggest sorry
[13:55] <jerriy1> bazhang: by that I mean a streaming file (that ends in .qtl)
[13:56] <paulo> obrigado
[13:56] <jrib> paulo: nada
[13:56] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, ok my question is then, how do i make it so a user across ftp, can write to a directory. assuming all of my file permissions are correct
[13:57] <ubuntu> ?
[13:57] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: did writing to the directory as ftpuser using a shell, work?
[13:57] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, to test this, ill just change my permissions to ftpuser, and do a mv?
[13:58] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: don't change any permissions
[13:58] <html> yorick,  what are you using as a 3d effects ?
[13:58] <jerriy1> bazhang:?
[13:58] <[THC]AcidRain> ... then how do i test it for user "ftpuser"?
[13:58] <Scunizi> Can I delete everything in /var/cache ??
[13:58] <[THC]AcidRain> i cant just do su - ftpuser?
[13:58] <bazhang> jerriy1, those are quicktime streaming files, seems totem can play them if ubuntuforums post is still applicable. did not see anything about amarok supporting them as of yet though
[13:59] <yorick> html: nothing?
[13:59] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: sure
[13:59] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: why not?
[13:59] <yorick> http://pastebin.com/MiRCV4Eg my glxinfo output
[14:00] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: to start another thread of thought... how did you install proftpd?
[14:00] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, through a shell, i went to the "Uploads" folder, and did "touch text.txt" it worked
[14:00] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: as ftpuser, correct?
[14:00] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, through software center
[14:00] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, correct
[14:00] <html> yorick,  what are you using as a 3d effects , as in compiz?
[14:00] <Scunizi> Can I delete everything in /var/cache without causing any issues?
[14:00] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: how is proftpd running as the acidrain user?
[14:00] <Pici> Scunizi: Why would you do that?
[14:00] <dddbmt> Hi guys. I used nautilus to stfp onto a server. By the connection broke and now I can't reconnect, is there a way to restart nautilus - or should I restart some ssh-thingie?
[14:00] <[THC]AcidRain> as a stand alone? is this your question...
[14:01] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: can you do: ps -ef | grep proft
[14:01] <jerriy1> bazhang: qtl and also ASX
[14:01] <Scunizi> Pici: I need to free room in root so I can log into my system.. I got a message that root was full and on the next boot it won't let me past the login screen
[14:01] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: well like I said, I have never used proftpd before but it seems to me like it would have to run as root to be able to read things like /etc/passwd so you could login
[14:02] <Pici> Scunizi: Removing the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives/ should be okay.
[14:02] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, http://pastebin.com/Gc7D4gSC
[14:02] <[THC]AcidRain> i was told running any remote app as root was bad
[14:02] <bazhang> jerriy1, no idea with amarok, totem and mplayer can however
[14:02] <Scunizi> Pici: ok.. I'd also like to check for older kernels that can be removed.. where do they live?
[14:03] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: it probably starts as root and then switches to nobody.  It's running as "nobody" according to your output
[14:03] <yorick> Nothing on the guest session
[14:03] <[THC]AcidRain> hmmmm. jrib, how do i switch its user?
[14:03] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: anyway this is likely some sort of proftpd configuration issue, not a permissions issue
[14:03] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: it's fine as it is
[14:03] <yorick> Compiz on the main account
[14:03] <Pici> Scunizi: /boot/, but you really should remove the packages that installed those, and also re-run update-grub afterwards.
[14:03] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, what ftp server do you use?
[14:04] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: I do not use one
[14:04] <[THC]AcidRain> i am willing to start over and cast out days of knowledge. lol
[14:04] <[THC]AcidRain> what ftp server would you suggest?
[14:04] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: is there a reason you want to use an ftp server instead of ssh?
[14:04] <iceroot> [THC]AcidRain: i dont suggest plain ftp
[14:05] <iceroot> [THC]AcidRain: easy to catch passwords
[14:05] <Scunizi> Pici: understood.. this is kind of an emergency fix.. I can't do things normally in the system because I've been locked out.. so perhaps with a little room it will let me in and I can clear out a bunch of stuff in the more normal fashion.
[14:05] <[THC]AcidRain> what is difference in ssh? jrib, i like ftp because its only way i know that my users across the world can access my files without having to be half smart
[14:05] <roasted> Question - I have 2 NICs in my system. DHCP Server is configured for eth0. However, (insert long hardware failure story here) on the new system now it's coming up as eth2 and therefore not starting. How can I "rebind" DHCP Server to eth2 from eth0?
[14:06] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, rly my new question is. is there a ssh client? for window users and such.
[14:06] <Wallace__> So I have a directory which is rwxrwxr-t (note: stickybit) owner/group are both 'user', containing files which are r--r--r-- owned by root.  I am logged in as user.  I expect that I cannot rm the file, because I don't own it, but the ubuntu allows me to rm it.  Where am I going wrong?
[14:06] <auronandace> !putty | [THC]AcidRain
[14:06] <Pici> Scunizi: You may want to look at the contents of /var/log/ as well, if unneeded, you can get rid of the older log files in there.
[14:06] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: your users can use sftp basically the same way they use ftp. filezilla is able to do this for example (or winscp or nautilus on linux)
[14:07] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, and what are some sftp servers?
[14:07] <Scunizi> Pici: I've looked there.. it's a pretty small directory overall.. file sizes are in the "k's" so pretty nominal
[14:07] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: just give them ssh access and they will be able to use sftp.  Do you care that they have ssh access?
[14:08] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, i run several several other servers. earth having access to ssh wont effect anything will it?
[14:09] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: "earth"?
[14:09] <[THC]AcidRain> earth = everyone
[14:10] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, i want to create a public ftp account. that anyone can download all public files, and add to 1 folder, called "uploads" then from there i will manage them myself
[14:11] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: that's something probably better suited for an ftp server, but see what others say
[14:12] <[THC]AcidRain> http://blog.markvdb.be/2009/01/sftp-on-ubuntu-and-debian-in-9-easy.html jrib, after looking at this, it appears it would work the same way as what im thinking a normal ftp server should work like
[14:12] <elacheche_anis> hello every body, i have a question please :)
[14:13] <Toph2> elacheche_anis,,, ask away
[14:13] <EgyParadox> elacheche_anis: ask ;)
[14:14] <wolfric> wtf is playing on the trance channel for rhythembox...
[14:14] <EgyParadox> !language
[14:14] <elacheche_anis> Hey Toph2 & EgyParadox :D .. how can I view the photo in the wiki page as thumbnails please..
[14:14] <wolfric> ok maybe it was just intro... but still very odd...
[14:16] <elacheche_anis> ping EgyParadox & toph :)
[14:17] <elacheche_anis> ping :)Toph2,
[14:17] <DamagedFiles> hi...how can I find all corrupted files in a USB stick?
[14:17] <Toph2> elacheche_anis,,, explain a bit further on what you want to do
[14:17] <DamagedFiles> I need to resize some images, but each times Phatch finds a corrupted image file, it freezes...so how could I erase all corrupted files?
[14:17] <bazhang> !google | me
[14:17] <g0t> Results for | me on Google:
[14:17] <g0t> --
[14:18] <elacheche_anis> Toph2, checkout this page and you will undestand what I want to do: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/Artwork
[14:20] <EgyParadox> elacheche_anis: it is very big?
[14:20] <Toph2> elacheche_anis,,, i don't know,, someone else may respond
[14:21] <elacheche_anis> Thx any way Toph2 :D yes EgyParadox I want to change all the pic to thumbnails :)
[14:21] <DamagedFiles> so...theres not a way to find corrupted jpg files?
[14:22] <Wallace__> Anybody know if the stickybit on directories works with a 2.6 kernel on ext4?
[14:25] <ikonia> Wallace__: yes, it does
[14:25] <html> stickybit , whats that?
[14:26] <Wallace__> ikonia, any reason then that I am able to delete files I don't own, with sticky bit set?
[14:26] <ikonia> Wallace__: can you show me an example of the permissions ?
[14:26] <jasonmsp> hey all.  Any recommendations for a GUI for iptables on 11.04?
[14:26] <Wallace__> directory is rwxrwxr-t and file is r--r--r--  directory is user:user and file is root:root - I am logged in as user
[14:27] <Wallace__> ikonia, my understanding is that user should not be able to delete the file
[14:27] <Wallace__> nb: user is not a member of root
[14:28] <Wallace__> !pastebin
[14:29] <ikonia> Wallace__: /window 17
[14:29] <ikonia> Wallace__: sorry, let me test something, as that doesn't seem right
[14:29] <Wallace__> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/667353/
[14:30] <Wallace__> ikonia, yeah, it definitely doesn't seem right to me
[14:31] <SubNormal> can any one tell me why my connection is "eth0-eth1" I know I have 2 cards but why isint it "eth0" and "eth1"?
[14:33] <ikonia> Wallace__: you are the directory owner, so that is why you can delete the files
[14:33] <DamagedFiles> how can i find corrupted files in a folder?
[14:33] <ikonia> Wallace__: (assuming you are doing this test as the user steve)
[14:34] <Wallace__> ikonia, I thought you had to be the *file* owner to delete
[14:34] <ikonia> DamagedFiles: you can't unless you have something to reference them against
[14:34] <ikonia> Wallace__: according to the man page, the items owner, the directory owner or the super user
[14:34] <ikonia> Wallace__: I was a little surprised too
[14:35] <ikonia> Wallace__: the sticky bit is set on the directory in your example, so anything under that directory will be effected
[14:35] <DamagedFiles> and how come...nautilus prints a grey space when a jpg is corrupted?
[14:35] <ikonia> DamagedFiles: because it tries to read it and it's not complete
[14:36] <DamagedFiles> so there's no tool reading batch files and checking if they are complete or not? that's weird...
[14:36] <Wallace__> ikonia, hmm, I want a directory that I can add files to, but not delete from
[14:36] <ikonia> DamagedFiles: not weird
[14:37] <ikonia> Wallace__: let me ponder
[14:38] <DamagedFiles> it's weird...because nautilus is able to know that file is damaged without comparing to anything..
[14:38] <darkwinisback> hello everybody, i tried to connect to a host via ssh with public keys using this german tutorial (http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ssh#Authentifizierung-ueber-Public-Keys) but the host is still asking for the password. the public key is in authorized_keys on hosts side
[14:38] <Sub_Zero> Can someone invite me to the #wine channel?
[14:38] <ikonia> Sub_Zero: try ##winehq
[14:39] <Sub_Zero> ikonia no one there
[14:39] <iceroot> darkwinisback: that is working here without problems. try to do it again
[14:39] <stix> #winehq
[14:39] <ikonia> DamagedFiles: that's because it tries to read each file and can't so knows it's corrupt
[14:39] <ikonia> Sub_Zero: there is
[14:39] <Sub_Zero> Ah it's just one # doh
[14:39] <stix> yep
[14:39] <DamagedFiles> so...why isnt there a program that makes the same thing file by file?
[14:39] <darkwinisback> iceroot: tried it 5 times...
[14:40] <Wallace__> ikonia, srry, was on phone.  I wonder if I change the directory to root:user it will work
[14:40] <iceroot> darkwinisback: any errors during that steps? is /var/log/auth.log showing errors?
[14:41] <ikonia> DamagedFiles: because you'd have to read each file into an associated application (eg: an image file into an image view) to know it was incomplete
[14:41] <Wallace__> ikonia, hmm, that seems to do it
[14:41] <ikonia> DamagedFiles: or you'd need a reference of the file being ok for you to compare against
[14:41] <ikonia> Wallace__: ahh, nice
[14:41] <hroi> im looking for a way to check if I used my computer on a day one week ago
[14:41] <Wallace__> ikonia, weird....but thanks for your help - I doubt i'd have figured that one out :)
[14:41] <ikonia> Wallace__: sorted it on your own, it was interesting
[14:42] <ytukl> Extract files to directory ~/.gnome2/gedit/plugins or
[14:42] <hroi> my computer is always running, and I stay logged in all the time... only I use the screensaver to lock/unlock the desktop.
[14:42] <ytukl> where i can find it in ubuntu?
[14:42] <darkwinisback> iceroot: wait a moment
[14:42] <DamagedFiles> there should me some kind of image inspector or something...
[14:42] <beginner> hi guys... is this possible? installing the kubuntu os to a 64GB SSD disc... and my home directory to a 1TB SATA?
[14:42] <jrib> beginner: sure
[14:42] <ikonia> DamagedFiles: you could write a script to do it, but it's not that easy as you've nothing to know it's corrupt beyond vewing each file
[14:42] <ytukl> Extract files to directory ~/.gnome2/gedit/plugins                              where i can find it in ubuntu 10.04?
[14:42] <beginner> will this really improve the performance?
[14:43] <ikonia> ytukl: its in @/.gnome2/gedit/plugins
[14:43] <ytukl> whast @
[14:43] <netspy> is there a way to do an upgrade bypassing current updates? want to migrate from lucid to natty
[14:43] <Wallace__> hroi, best suggestion is to examine files in /var/log (e.g. messages, syslog) and see if that reports anything that would indicate you were active
[14:43] <jrib> netspy: what do you mean by "current updates"?  And why do you want to avoid them?
[14:44] <ytukl> ikonia: I opened File System and i don't see .gnome2
[14:44] <ikonia> it's a hidden directory, and it's in your home directory
[14:44] <EgyParadox> netspy: you want to upgrade from lucid to natty without upgrading to maverick?
[14:44] <netspy> i mean my lucid has demanding updates but don't have the time
[14:44] <darkwinisback> iceroot: Aug 16 16:42:35 v22232 sshd[1770]: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /home/XXX maybe something like that?
[14:44] <jrib> netspy: you should update
[14:45] <netspy> that is it EgyParadox
[14:45] <bizukifu> hejsa
[14:45] <bizukifu> øæææ
[14:45] <bizukifu> this is denmark caling
[14:46] <EgyParadox> netspy:Just do a fresh install
[14:46] <ytukl> ikonia: how i can extract files to hidden directory?
[14:46] <jjjjjj> ¶¹¶¹ËµÔÙ¼û
[14:46] <ikonia> ytukl: just put the path you want to extract to when you extract
[14:46] <bazhang> !cn | jjjjjj
[14:47] <jjjjjj> huh?
[14:47] <nodestool> what is the name of what i want to do ( i have a server with no monitor, i want to add desktop programs and server, and connect to that server from remote location)
[14:47] <ytukl> ikonia: ok it worked, thanks
[14:48] <E3D3> Hi all. I made Conkeror my default browser. It opens new windows when I click links outside Conkeror. I tried to change that but no good result yet. According to #conkeror is my Conkeror-configuation okay. Who can help me with this ?
[14:48] <nodestool> like rdesktop but where the server is ubuntu not windows
[14:49] <drussell> nodestool: it's very similar... just called, remote desktop, examples of which are vnc, or possibly LTSP depending on how complex you want to go
[14:50] <djordjevic> exit
[14:53] <martian> Is there a way to get Nautilus to show a text mode path widget instead of the button based one?
[14:53] <RawChid> Hello, can anobody explain to me what a "greeter" is?  (like greeter session or greeter theme)
[14:53] <fmauro> martian: yes
[14:53] <martian> fmauro: How? :)
[14:53] <fmauro> martian: open gconf-editor
[14:54] <nodestool> drussell: vnc and there are packages for that i am guessing
[14:54] <fmauro> martian: go to apps/nautilus/preferences
[14:54] <martian> fmauro: ahh it's not a gui toggle thing. Okay, I can find it! Thankya
[14:54] <bazhang> RawChid, gdm greeter for instance
[14:54] <stealz> How do I change the Ubuntu Gnome Menu Icon (10.04)
[14:55] <fmauro> martian: it's always_use_location_entry
[14:55] <fixxxermet> Hey everyone.  I am trying to install ubuntu 10.04 server and grub is having trouble installing.  http://imagebin.org/168103 is the error and my partition layout.  /boot (/) is in LVM
[14:55] <RawChid> bazhang, so what does a greeter?
[14:55] <martian> fmauro: Didn't there used to be a way to toggle between the two at one point?
[14:56] <fmauro> martian: I think, ye. but it's gone now to my knowledge
[14:56] <Firefishe> I'm upgrading to 10.10 from 10.04, then immediately doing an upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10.  I'd like to ask, what is the better upgrade tool, ubuntu's (gnome's) or kde's?  I use both desktops.
[14:56] <RawChid> I know a lot of Display Managers contain Greeter things. But it still isn't very clear to me...
[14:56] <Pici> Firefishe: They both do exactly the same thing. It doesn't matter which you use.
[14:56] <bazhang> http://live.gnome.org/GDM/2.22/Configuration RawChid
[14:57] <usr13> Firefishe: I don't think there is a difference
[14:57] <martian> fmauro: Isn't it a bummer when features are removed! Well, thanks again.
[14:57] <slide> ok the Unity bar wont go away...... this is really annoying, anyone know how to fix?
[14:57] <RawChid> Thank you bazhang !
[14:57] <fmauro> martian: np mate
[14:57] <usr13> Firefishe: But it is recommended that you first have your present version fully updated before attempting a distribution upgrade.
[14:57] <Firefishe> Pici, usr13:  Well, if that's the case, which is the more verbose and informative?
[14:58] <Firefishe> usr13: already done :)
[14:58] <Pici> Firefishe: Use the cli method if you want more information.
[14:58] <bayu> Testing using Backtrack 6,4
[14:58] <DamagedFiles> how can i tell imagemagick to skip a file if it returns error?
[14:58] <Pici> bayu : We do not support backtrack here, please use their support channel at #backtrack-linux
[14:58] <Pici> DamagedFiles: Are you using morgify or convert?
[14:58] <Firefishe> Pici: ummm, how do I use the command line to do a distribution upgrade?  What's the command for that?
[14:59] <Pici> Firefishe: sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:59] <doritey> I just installed Ubuntu in VMware, and when I ran it for the first time it said something about my hardware not being compatible, and that it could only run "classic" Ubuntu. What does this even mean?
[14:59] <doritey> Classic in comparison to what?
[14:59] <clu3> guys, My first "app" for ubuntu . check out my simple todo list app : https://github.com/clu3/ubuntu-desktop-todo-list  . I'd really appreciate it if you have any feedback
[14:59] <bazhang> doritey, no 3d
[14:59] <bazhang> doritey, ie unity
[14:59] <clu3> qin, ^^ that's what i've been asking you
[14:59] <ashickur-noor> @doritey you may have install Ubuntu 11.04
[14:59] <bayu> Pici:Thanks
[14:59] <ikonia> doritey: it means your virtual video card is not compatible to run the full graphical experience so goes to "classic" mode, which is less
[14:59] <RawChid> bazhang, I've read your URL. But can you or someone else explain in 1 or 2 sentences what a Greeter is?  I'm translating Ubuntu and am not sure if I should translate "Greeter"
[14:59] <Firefishe> Pici...I've never tried that.  If it bonks, will it do the same as the gui-based tools, and auto-cancel the install and revert back properly?
[14:59] <doritey> What is unity
[15:00] <doritey> Is it some kind of new interface for ubuntu
[15:00] <auronandace> !unity
[15:00] <ikonia> doritey: the desktop you are using
[15:00] <Pici> Firefishe: Yes.
[15:00] <DamagedFiles> mogrify
[15:00] <RawChid> Can I see it as the "login screen" of GDM bazhang?
[15:00] <Firefishe> Pici: thank you.  I prefer cli when available....danke.
[15:00] <bazhang> doritey, the 3d dock and new interface for 11.04 and beyond
[15:00] <DamagedFiles> Pici: mogrify
[15:00] <doritey> So Ubuntu previously used "classic GNOME desktop", and now runs something called Unity?
[15:00] <doritey> And this is what I can't run
[15:00] <doritey> ?
[15:00] <usr13> Firefishe: There are two ways, the gui and sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:00] <bazhang> doritey, not in a vm, right
[15:00] <Firefishe> usr13: I'll try the cli this time
[15:01] <Scall> !classic
[15:01] <doritey> Ok. Is there any way to get around this that you know of?
[15:01] <ikonia> doritey: no
[15:01] <Firefishe> Scall: Ah!  Just answered my next question :)
[15:01] <bazhang> doritey, no idea, try the vmware channel perhaps
[15:01] <doritey> That stinks.
[15:01] <ikonia> doritey: complain to vmware
[15:01] <RawChid> I have seen Unity working in Virtual Box,
[15:01] <doritey> Ok.
[15:01] <Pici> DamagedFiles: I'm not sure if that is possible. You may want to use convert in a loop instead.
[15:01] <RawChid> So it IS possible
[15:02] <ikonia> RawChid: not in vmware its not
[15:02] <RawChid> Ack
[15:02] <DamagedFiles> Pici: convert is part of imagemagick?
[15:02] <Pici> DamagedFiles: yes.
[15:02] <naxa> is there a way to log al file operations in the system?
[15:02] <naxa> *all
[15:03] <Pici> DamagedFiles: Heck, you could use mogrify in a loop but only one file at a time.
[15:04] <usr13> naxa: What do you mean?
[15:04] <usr13> naxa: Commands given at command line?
[15:04] <iDirk> Can anyone point me in the right direction to fix my dualscreen problem? The problem is I can't drag applications to my other monitor. Trying all day with no success. Nvidia chipset.
[15:04] <naxa> usr13: no, i mean that all file opening, modification, deletion would be logged.
[15:05] <usr13> naxa: hummmm....
[15:05] <naxa> usr13: pretty much as the journal but keeping these information even after committing.
[15:05] <rumpe1> naxa, maybe inotify
[15:05] <naxa> rumpe1: I check it thanks!
[15:07]  * fmauro is now happy to know about the inotify api
[15:08] <Nitax> okay, i'm trying to set up a directory where all files created are +rw for any member of the group.  I figured out the setgid bit, but how do I set the default permissions for the group?
[15:08] <PaoloRotolo> hi
[15:08] <naxa> rumpe1: any idea for logging prints?
[15:08] <rumpe1> naxa, print jobs?
[15:09] <naxa> rumpe1: yes
[15:09] <rumpe1> Nitax, sounds like umask
[15:09] <Nitax> but is umask a global setting or is it local to particular directories?
[15:10] <Nitax> also, I don't get what the point of setting the uid or gid bits is without also having default permissions for the group or user?
[15:10] <rumpe1> Nitax, don't know for sure... but it works with mounts and you can bind/mount directories.
[15:12] <doritey> Hi. What does LTS mean.
[15:12] <rumpe1> doritey, long term support
[15:12] <doritey> I don't understand from reading the description on the Ubuntu site.
[15:12] <shinsuke> i want to completely format my hdd. what is the fastest way by software to do that?
[15:12] <doritey> Yes but what does it actually mean
[15:12] <jpds> !lts | doritey
[15:12] <doritey> What does "will be supported for 3 years" men
[15:12] <doritey> mean*
[15:12] <bazhang> 3 years desktop, 5 years server doritey
[15:12] <rumpe1> doritey, it means you get updates for several year, unlike the other non-lts-versions
[15:12] <doritey> Get updates?
[15:12] <doritey> I don't understand.
[15:13] <usr13> Nitax: umask is a global setting but only for the particular user files
[15:13] <bazhang> security etc
[15:13] <rumpe1> doritey, you don't know updates? o.O
[15:13] <doritey> I know what an update is, but I still don't see how the versions differ.
[15:13] <doritey> How does 10.04 regular differ from 10.04 LTS
[15:13] <usr13> shinsuke: fsck
[15:13] <doritey> LTS means "long-term-support" but I don't understand what this means in that context
[15:13] <Nitax> right, so this is a directory for a project that is shared across users and I want new files created in this directory to be +rw for the whole group
[15:13] <iDirk> What part you don't understand? :P
[15:13] <bazhang> there is no 10.04 regular gnome doritey
[15:13] <rumpe1> doritey, there exists no "regular" 10.04, which isn't LTS
[15:14] <Pici> doritey: 10.04 is supported for 3-5 years depending on if you're talking about desktop or server packages.
[15:14] <doritey> Oh, I'm thinking of 11.04.
[15:14] <doritey> Well, what's the diff
[15:14] <bazhang> !notes > doritey
[15:14] <doritey> Or like, what does LTS actually entail from a technical/functional standpoint
[15:15] <Pici> doritey: 11.04 is a year older than 10.04 (version numbers indicate the YEAR.MONTH of release)
[15:15] <Pici> doritey: er, newer*
[15:15] <PhoenixSTF> hello is there any channel for support on eeepc's?
[15:15] <adm_2> hi
[15:15] <bazhang> !alis | PhoenixSTF
[15:15] <usr13> doritey: LTS is just a switch that is set that tells your update-manager to only do a ditribution upgrade to the next designated LTS. i.e. 8.04 10.04 12.04
[15:15] <doritey> So when is it decided that a version is LTS
[15:16] <Pici> doritey: LTSes are every two years.
[15:16] <adm_2> how to know whicj bootloader is working ? after an upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04, i had some file for lilo, some for grub and some for grub2
[15:16] <doritey> Ugh
[15:16] <Pici> doritey: Whats wrong?
[15:16] <rumpe1> adm_2, your bootscreen should tell you that
[15:17] <doritey> I still don't understand. What does it actually mean when a version of Ubuntu is "LTS". It has "long-term-support", but what does that even mean? Does it mean that you get tech support?
[15:17] <adm_2> rumpe1: i have no bootscreen, only a ssh connection
[15:17] <doritey> Does it mean that the version is supposed to be supported?
[15:17] <doritey> Ok, but in what context?
[15:17] <Gentoo64> doritey, means its supported long term
[15:17] <doritey> By what/whom?
[15:17] <Gentoo64> updates
[15:17] <rumpe1> doritey, no... just updates over a long periode
[15:17] <jpds> doritey: You get supported for a longer time, than a normal release.
[15:17] <doritey> So Ubuntu LTS is supported in updates.. b
[15:17] <doritey> but how
[15:17] <doritey> what does this mean
[15:18] <Pici> doritey: It means that security packages are available for 3-5 years depending on which packages you are talking about and supported in community support places like here.
[15:18] <Gentoo64> doritey, in ubuntu you get updates for packages for a certain amount of time until the version ends its life. lts just has longer life
[15:18] <usr13> It means that that 8.04 and 10.04 have longer end of life.  It means that 6.04 and 8.04 and 10.04 are designated as Long Term.
[15:18] <adm_2> 2 years support for normal release, 5 years for LTS
[15:18] <rumpe1> doritey, it means, that if you have a non-lts version, you have to switch earlier to a higher version or you risk security issues
[15:18] <jpds> doritey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[15:18] <Pici> adm_2: 18 months.
[15:18] <usr13> !lts | doritey
[15:19] <asdqq> hi, I got some errors with mplayer and some video files. I read that it was working with a newer version that the one from 11.04. Where can I find more up to date mplayer debs?
[15:19] <Pici> doritey: Perhaps something that discusses how software is installed and updated in Ubuntu would be helpful?
[15:19] <rhin0> which is now up to 10.04.3 and is rock solid
[15:19] <adm_2> oups ok Pici
[15:19] <bazhang> asdqq, from their homepage, a ppa or compile it yourself
[15:19] <doritey> Yes Pici
[15:19] <PhoenixSTF> I have a bit of a issue with bcm4313, cant get it working with 802.11n, has anyone tried to use broadcom-sta-comon?
[15:20] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: You CAN get it working?
[15:20] <doritey> So LTS versions are old versions of Ubuntu that get the same software releases as new versions, whereas non-LTS versions cease to get software releases when a new version of Ubuntu is released?
[15:20] <Pici> doritey: Let me find a good link.
[15:20] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, i can't get it working on 802.11n only g
[15:20] <Pici> doritey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware is rather informative.
[15:21] <edbian> doritey: Well LTS releases get updates for longer than normal releases but there is more overlap in all of the releases then what you described
[15:21] <doritey> Okay
[15:21] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: Which driver are you using?
[15:21] <usr13> doritey: So 6.04 reached EOL in April 2009 and was superceeded by 8.04.  8.04 reached EOL  April of 2011 and was superceeded by 10.04
[15:21] <Pici> doritey: Think about this: A non LTS release gets updates for just 18 months. In an LTS you could have that install running for 5 years and continue to recieve updates.
[15:22] <doritey> What decides when a release is LTS
[15:22] <bazhang> usr13, 6.06 actually
[15:22] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, don't know lol, how do i check that?
[15:22] <Pici> usr13: For the desktop packages. Server support for 8.04 continues to 2013.
[15:22] <doritey> Who's to say that X.XX specifically will be supported
[15:22] <doritey> and not X.XY
[15:22] <doritey> or Y.YY
[15:22] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: sudo lspci -k
[15:22] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: It will have a large output, you can pastebin it if you need help reading it.  The wifi card is probably near the bottom.
[15:23] <Angelous> Hello, I was wondering if it's possible to put in the motd Hello, blah. Today is "datehere".
[15:23] <adm_2> someone for my pb, i can t boot after an upgrade 8.04 to 10.04,  how to determine which bootloader is working ?
[15:23] <Jim455R> how do i uninstall pastebin ?
[15:23] <Pici> doritey: They are every two years. And the decision is made before work on the release begins.
[15:23] <ikonia> Angelous: sure
[15:23] <usr13> bazhang: doritey Oh, ok.  I stand corrected.  it's 6.06 not 6.04  And yes, we're talknig tesktop when we say 3 years, it's 5 years for server.
[15:23] <ikonia> adm_2: there should only be 1 boot loader
[15:23] <Angelous> What would the synatx be then, ikonia? I'm no bash expert, or anything.
[15:23] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, http://pastebin.com/v85MqZR8
[15:23] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: It will list 'drivers' which is the driver that is currently being used, and 'modules' which is every driver that is installed on the system (but not being used).  drivers are modules in linux
[15:24] <r_a_f> doritey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[15:24] <bendras> Hi,
[15:24] <Pici> r_a_f: ah, thanks.
[15:24] <ikonia> Angelous: use the date command `date` or use a script to do "echo todays date is `date`" > /etc/motd each day
[15:24] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, ya i can see it
[15:24] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: You say wireless n does not work right now?  I have no experience setting up wireless n but I do have some experience with wifi cards in general.
[15:24] <Pici> doritey: The link that r_a_f posted has a great image of how the LTSes are supported.
[15:24] <r_a_f> Pici: np ;)
[15:24] <Angelous> No, ikonia. What I'm wondering if how I would integrate it into the file.
[15:24] <adm_2> ikonia: i have files for lilo, other for grub and some for grub2 Oo, how to restore a solid situation (only a ssh connexion)
[15:24] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: Let's just try to use the other driver that is listed there.  sudo modprobe -r wl     (to remove wl) and sudo modprobe brcm80211
[15:25] <bazhang> Jim455R, you mean pastebinit ? pastebin is a service not a package you install
[15:25] <Pici> Jim455R: Did you mean the pastebinit package?
[15:25] <usr13> bazhang: doritey doritey My ubuntu system here was previously 6.06 and was upgraded to 8.04 and then to 10.04 It's been through them all.
[15:25] <ikonia> adm_2: you should only have 1 boot loader, at worst two if you dia a grub1->grub2 upgrade,
[15:25] <bendras> I have a box with "fresh" ubuntu 9.04. Is it safe/OK to upgrade to newer version without getting latest updates for current version?
[15:25] <ikonia> adm_2: remove the config files for the boot loader you are not using
[15:25] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: btw, sta and wl are the same driver.  I think they use one another in operation like b43 and ssb   not really sure about that though
[15:25] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, well at home not where i am right now, i have 2 routers with 802.11n but my card only gets g 54mbps
[15:25] <osmosis_paul> somebody know if xfoward works with ubuntu?
[15:25] <ikonia> bendras: no
[15:25] <ikonia> bendras: you need to go through each release
[15:25] <doritey> usr13 alright
[15:25] <doritey> well, thanks to everyone for explaining
[15:26] <Angelous> No, ikonia. What I'm wondering if how I would integrate it into the file.
[15:26] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: Are you saying you can't test the card?
[15:26] <trism> Angelous: add a script to /etc/update-motd.d/ that uses echo and date as ikonia suggested
[15:26] <ikonia> Angelous: I've just told you
[15:26] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, yes well that is the issue, if it aint working with N, if I install the
[15:26] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: my suggestion is just to use the other driver that's installed and see if that works.  Can you not do that because you don't have a wireless n signal where you are?
[15:26] <usr13> doritey: You'll find the LTS/normal switch on the update-manager
[15:26] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, no i dont have a N signal where i am
[15:26] <usr13> screen
[15:26] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: Well then how are we supposed to fix this? :P
[15:27] <trism> Angelous: except without the redirect, so: #!/bin/sh then on the following line echo "Today's date is `date`"
[15:27] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, but i have a neibours router that has N, i cant get into it but i can scan!
[15:27] <bendras> ikonia: so 9.04 > 9.10 > 10.04>10.10 > 11.04 ?
[15:27] <ikonia> bendras: correct
[15:27] <html> is there a way i can use linux on windows desktop with out a vm on a public pc(windows 7)
[15:27] <adm_2> ikonia:  i remove all concerning lilo, how i forced an upgrade from grub to grub2 ? is there a way to upgrade grub2 to accept the new kernel ?
[15:27] <ikonia> html: no
[15:27] <Jim455R> how to uninstalll pastebin package
[15:27] <carl_> salut
[15:28] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: Do you mean you CAN'T get into it?
[15:28] <ikonia> !grub2 > adm_2
[15:28] <carl_> xdcc send #42
[15:28] <ikonia> adm_2: look at "update-grub"
[15:28] <bazhang> Jim455R, you cannot, its a service
[15:28] <carl_> ok
[15:28] <Pici> Jim455R: What package?
[15:28] <Jim455R> pastebin
[15:28] <bazhang> Jim455R, its called pastebinit
[15:28] <usr13> doritey: You'll find the LTS/normal switch in the settings menu of the update-manager.  The choices are "Long term support only"  and "Normal releases"
[15:28] <Pici> Jim455R: pastebin isn't a package name. Are you referring to pastebinit?
[15:28] <Jim455R> OK@!! Adriver me crazy
[15:28] <Jim455R> how to uninstall it
[15:28] <bendras> ikonia: but the fact that 9.04 wasnt updated to latest pacages before upgrade to 9.10 wont breake anything hard?
[15:28] <ikonia> bendras: yes, it will
[15:28] <carl_> salut
[15:28] <Jim455R> hail !
[15:28] <bazhang> Jim455R, from the package manager, just like everything else
[15:29] <ikonia> bendras: the upgrade will probably not run
[15:29] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, i dont have access, i dont have the password to connect to it, but i can scan if it has N!
[15:29] <html> ikonia,  i know there is  but i dont remember the name,  and its like  a mac tool bar with ur apps on it
[15:29] <Braber01> Anybody know the defaut location do download perl Modules to in Linux?
[15:29] <ikonia> html: there isn't
[15:29] <ikonia> Braber01: it's distribution specific
[15:29] <Pici> html: If there is it isn't distributed or supported by us.
[15:29] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, http://pastebin.com/MRdvDZWJ
[15:30] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: I see.  so switch the drivers with the commands I gave and run sudo iwlist scan and see if the N networks show up
[15:30] <bendras> ikonia: it sais Upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10, 23 minutes remaining. Fingers crossed
[15:30] <Braber01> ikonia: on Ubuntu
[15:30] <Jim455R> THANK YOU!
[15:30] <Jim455R> i removed pastebinit
[15:30] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: Your wifi card is eth1?  mmm, strange
[15:30] <ikonia> Braber01: depending on what they are (libraries for exampl) it's normally /usr/lib
[15:30] <bendras> ikonia: or might be there is backup repos to get latest packages for discontinued versions in such cases?
[15:30] <doritey> ok usr13 thanks
[15:30] <html> Pici,  ill show you'll if i can find it
[15:31] <ikonia> !oldreleases | bendras
[15:31] <ion|afk> is there a way with apt to only show the packages from a specific repository?
[15:31] <ikonia> html: don't worry about it
[15:31] <Pici> bendras: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[15:31] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, yes I know its strange, i have 11.04 installed and its a eepc1215B
[15:31] <Braber01> ikonia: thank you
[15:31] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: switch the drivers and check the networks
[15:31] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, ok network might go down
[15:31] <PhoenixSTF> brb
[15:31] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: k
[15:32] <kevin__> hello everyone, I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 on an HP dv 6748 and I'm having issues with the built in webcam. Any ideas?
[15:32] <Vidalia> Ehm, try getting drivers and run them in wine.
[15:33] <ikonia> no
[15:33] <Pici> Vidalia: Thats not how drivers work.
[15:33] <bazhang> Vidalia, that will not work
[15:33] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, hey m8 want a pastebin?
[15:33] <ikonia> actually investigate why it's failing
[15:33] <Vidalia> K, sorry.
[15:33] <html> ¿sıɥʇ xıɟ llıʍ ɹǝʌo ʇı ƃuıddılɟ ɟı ɹǝpuoʍ ı ˙ʍoɥ ǝɯos uʍop ǝpısdn pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʎɯ pǝuɹnʇ ı ʞuıɥʇ ı
[15:33] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: sure, did it work?
[15:33] <bazhang> html, stop that
[15:33] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, I dont think it did.
[15:34] <markskilbeck> html: turn your keyboard the right way up - that'll help.]
[15:34] <LowValueTarget> Where's the easiest place to keep track of ubuntu server kernel releases for 10.04
[15:34] <ikonia> LowValueTarget: what do you mean keep track ?
[15:34] <LowValueTarget> ikonia: i want to easily find the latest kernel
[15:35] <LowValueTarget> available for the LTS
[15:35] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, http://pastebin.com/hurpyUkB
[15:35] <ikonia> LowValueTarget: apt-get update - if there is a new one, it will offer it
[15:35] <Pici> ikonia: dist-upgrade for kernel packages.
[15:35] <ikonia> Pici: update should advertise if there is a new package
[15:35] <ikonia> it won't install it though
[15:35] <Pici> ikonia: true as well :)
[15:36] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: This is still using the wl driver    did the modprobes have no effect?
[15:36] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, yes modprobes had the effect the card is now wlan0 :)
[15:36] <iDirk> Can anyone point me in the right direction to fix my dualscreen problem? The problem is I can't drag applications to my other monitor. Trying all day with no success. Nvidia chipset.
[15:36] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: really....
[15:36] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: Cause it didn't change the driver
[15:37] <PhoenixSTF> ed1703, yes it did 	Kernel driver in use: brcm80211
[15:37] <Vidalia> iDirk; same problem here, couldn't get it to work.
[15:37] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, yes it did 	Kernel driver in use: brcm80211
[15:37] <kevin__> Anyone know anything about getting webcams to work?
[15:37] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: oooh!  Well I dont' see any wireless n networks.  I'm thinking that the drivers just aren't ready yet
[15:38] <Vidalia> iDirk; i advise you not even to try finding a solution.. you will probably break things. even if you follow tutorials.
[15:38] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, what about the sta drivers or the bcmwl?
[15:38] <iDirk> Vidalia: It's a problem I always have with Ubuntu. It's the only reason I want to switch to Windows again.
[15:38] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, you think it might do it?
[15:38] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: I told you wl is the sta drivers
[15:38] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: sta and wl and bcmwl are effectively the same driver, they use each other
[15:39] <Vidalia> iDirk; Nvidia is not the best Linux friendly..
[15:39] <igormorgado> hi all. since I have a multitouch pad, how can I enable gestures  on ubuntu interface?
[15:40] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, ohhh.... thats wierd...
[15:40] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: yes
[15:40] <user82> PhoenixSTF, you seem to be broadcom expert. do i still need the propertiary drivers for my wlan or are there open source ones now?
[15:40] <kevin_> hey
[15:40] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: sorry mate!
[15:40] <user82> i saw some in the kernel config...but not all i guess?
[15:40] <edbian> user82: What card do you have?
[15:40] <iDirk> Vidalia: I know. But this problem is known for years. I hoped it was fixed with 11.04 :(.
[15:40] <domedagen> I don't have a wpa_supplicat conf file. help!
[15:40] <domedagen> plz
[15:41] <kitche> domedagen: so make one
[15:41] <user82> edbian, just a sec
[15:41] <Vidalia> iDirk; Yeah kind of a bummer, so i just have my 50" screen connected.
[15:41] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, its ok m8 do you recommend proprietary drivers from broadcom, or is it the same has the rest
[15:41] <iDirk> Vidalia: Haha, thats a solution :P.
[15:41] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: I am not away of any.  That's what I'm gonna ask user82
[15:41] <domedagen> kitche: How can I know what to write in there?
[15:41] <LowValueTarget> How do i properly upgrade an ubuntu box from 10.04.1 to 10.04.3
[15:42] <iDirk> Vidalia: I cannot work without 2 monitors, I'm used to it too much.
[15:42] <domedagen> I follow a tutorial and it says add these lines
[15:42] <ikonia> LowValueTarget: just update the packages as Pici mentioned earlier, it will become a 10.04.3 machine
[15:42] <kitche> domedagen: so add those lines then
[15:42] <Vidalia> iDirk; i know the feeling, but you can try getting used to it. using the workspace switcher.
[15:43] <user82> edbian, BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[15:43] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, problably its the same sta has in the ubuntu repo, http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[15:43] <domedagen> kitche: So I create a file and name it that then add the lines needed for tutorial?
[15:43] <auero> I used to be able to connect to my ubuntu box from OS X by connecting to smb://domainname but now it doesn't work. Anyone have an idea what needs to be changed? Is it just a blocked port?
[15:43] <edbian> user82: same as PhoenixSTF !  What driver are you using?
[15:43] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, thanks for everythin anyways m8
[15:43] <iDirk> Vidalia: I guess I could try that. Didn't think about it. Thanks :).
[15:43] <shinsuke> if i create an image of my partitions is the deleted data of the past which is still restoreable by software like testdisk saved on those images, too? thanks
[15:43] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, cheers ;)
[15:43] <user82> ubuntu natty. its the "wl" kernel module
[15:44] <user82> (so the driver ubuntu provides i meant with natty)
[15:44] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: that's an open source driver  (see?  LINUX sta after that first paragraph)
[15:44] <Vidalia> iDirk; no problem (:
[15:44] <edbian> user82: that's open source (and the preferred driver)
[15:44] <user82> but broadcom opensource...not kernel included?
[15:45] <user82> any page for updates/sources to self-compile?
[15:45] <user82> http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php ?
[15:46] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, so its problably the same thing lol, oh well I am gonna try some stuff at home then I'll try to contact broadcom.
[15:46] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, once again thanks :)
[15:46] <nudb2> hi - as a sudoer on a server, how do you 'get the root password', or what does that mean please?  (I'm just a newbie)
[15:46] <nudb2> I can "sudo su" just fine btw
[15:47] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: sure
[15:47] <Nitax> question: http://paste.ubuntu.com/667426/  why is the 'x' bit not included even though it's included in umask?
[15:48] <edbian> user82: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bcm4313&searchon=all&suite=natty&section=all
[15:48] <Pici> Nitax: There is no root password, the root account is locked.  Use sudo to do things as root. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:49] <user82> thanks edbian
[15:49] <edbian> user82: sure
[15:49] <Nitax> Pici: thanks.  I guess files don't really need the +x bit in a file share anyways?  Only the directories need +x so that users can 'ls' them?
[15:50] <Pici> nudb2: There is no root password, the root account is locked.  Use sudo to do things as root. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:50] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, one more thing m8, if i force it to use the N under iwconfig?
[15:50] <Pici> Nitax: yeah, sorry that link wasn't for you.. but only directories need +x unless you really need for the files to be executable (which they don't normally need)
[15:51] <Nitax> right, I definitely don't need +x for files, but if I user creates a directory, i'd like it to be +x
[15:51] <edbian> PhoenixSTF: I have no idex if that's even possible.
[15:51] <Nitax> and it looks like +x is added by default with that umask setting
[15:51] <PhoenixSTF> edbian, :)
[15:53] <DamagedFiles> how can i tell imagemagick to skip a file if it returns error?
[15:53] <ikonia> DamagedFiles: you'll have to script that
[15:53] <ikonia> as I explained erarlier
[15:53] <ikonia> earlier
[15:57] <Pehnep> I've decided to try and build myself my own webserver, still at the begin though, but I was wondering if there'd be a way I could get a second IP address to separate virtual spaces and the processes running on them. Is this possible in any logical way?
[15:59] <giacomo> buon pomeriggio
[16:00] <Pici> !it | giacomo
[16:00] <Angelous> What's the command to create a file?
[16:00] <Pici> Angelous: touch
[16:00] <giacomo> grazie
[16:00] <Angelous> thank you
[16:01] <recon69_lap> hi all, anyone know whats up with the canon mp495 print drivers
[16:01] <Angelous> How would I echo a file to see it's contents?
[16:02] <recon69_lap> Angelous: tail filename
[16:02] <Obfuscation> more <filename> or less <filename>?
[16:03] <Angelous> My motd changes don't seem to be taking effect.
[16:03] <recon69_lap> Angelous: gedit filename
[16:03] <Angelous> I also wrote a script for it, but it's not working.
[16:05] <domedagen> If I think I have two WLAN devices installed shouldn't I see two different connection names(wlan0 wlan1)?
[16:05] <Bisu[Shield]> anyone know what this means: /usr/local/zend/etc/rc.d/03apache: 148: www-browser: not found
[16:06] <recon69_lap>  domedagen: cant be sure, have you looked at ifconfig
[16:07] <Angelous> Does anyone know why ubuntu is doing this?
[16:07] <Angelous> root@ubuntu:~# /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[16:07] <Angelous> Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[16:07] <Angelous> utility, e.g. service ssh restart
[16:07] <Angelous> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[16:07] <Angelous> Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) and then start(8) utilities,
[16:07] <FloodBot1> Angelous: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:07] <IdleOne> Angelous: sudo service ssh restart
[16:07] <gorgonzola_> hello! my flash plugin got disabled again in chrome and firefox. how do i solve this?
[16:07] <Titanoboa> dr_willis, will you believe it... I have a working hard drive now :p
[16:07] <domedagen> recon69_lap: Yes, and I can only see one wlan device
[16:08] <domedagen> recon69_lap: Simpliest solution is to remove the old card?
[16:08] <recon69_lap> domedagen: is it causing a problem
[16:08] <sysopwork> is there a way to redirect an https sent to www.domain.com to domain.com without getting the error screen?
[16:09] <ikonia> sysopwork: you can use something such as squid, or mod re-write within apache
[16:09] <Titanoboa> dr_willis: and with ubuntu installed and all, all i need now is to update my graphics driver
[16:09] <Titanoboa> (i think. because im getting low fps)
[16:09] <nerdrage> what does it mean to "purge a PPA", will it remove all packages I've installed and delete it from my sources.lst
[16:10] <domedagen> recon69_lap: The old was out of the box but with unstable connection so I tried installing a new USB card instead following a guide with ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant without any error msgs
[16:10] <domedagen> recon69_lap: Can I be sure that it was installed correctly?
[16:11] <Pehnep> Is it possible to have a second external IP for one device? (Different virtual spaces)
[16:12] <Bisu[Shield]> what does www-browser: not found mean?
[16:12] <vbnj> Pehnep, my opinion, you'll have to play with routes
[16:12] <domedagen> Bisu[Shield]: Where did you get it
[16:12] <vbnj> !nvidia
[16:13] <Andy80> hi guys
[16:13] <recon69_lap> domedagen: would only suggest that if it's working well why mess with it. removing the old card should not really be an issue, sounds like Ubuntu never recognised it anyway
[16:13] <Andy80> a little question on Ensemble: https://ensemble.ubuntu.com/ - why this name, how to install, where to download ecc.... am I the only one who cannot find WHAT is Ensamble :P ?
[16:14] <malwi> :)
[16:14] <Pehnep> vbnj, what'd be the best way to try that?
[16:14] <malwi> ?
[16:14] <BartlomiejB> why doesn't mutt remove temporary files created when viewing attachments?
[16:15] <vbnj> !route
[16:15] <vbnj> !routes
[16:15] <Titanoboa> don't tell me it's impossible to update graphics drivers on ubuntu? :/
[16:15] <IdleOne> Andy80: that page you linked answers your questions
[16:15] <theadmin> Titanoboa: It's possible, depends on your manufacturers.
[16:15] <vbnj> Pehnep, don't know much about it but you can try 'man route' in a shell
[16:15] <Titanoboa> ATI
[16:16] <theadmin> Titanoboa: You mean AMD. Unlikely, then.
[16:16] <Titanoboa> so i'm stuck with 20 fps in the only game i ever play?
[16:16] <domedagen> recon69_lap: Ty for help. Going unplugg ethernet cable now. We'll see if I will have a connection wstill
[16:16] <Titanoboa> used to get 300 on the same machine
[16:16] <theadmin> Titanoboa: Well, do check amd.com for driver downloads, but I can't guarantee much
[16:16] <domedagen> Bisu[Shield]: Have you tried http://serverfault.com/questions/49089/usr-sbin-apache2ctl-124-www-browser-not-found
[16:16] <Titanoboa> ok
[16:17] <recon69_lap> domedagen: wait, you unpulgging a wired card, i'd leave it
[16:17] <recon69_lap> domedagen: thought you where talking about 2 wireless cards
[16:18] <Pehnep> Alright, thanks for the pointer, vbnj, I'll see how that goes.
[16:18] <BartlomiejB> does anyone use mutt here?
[16:18] <Polah> !ask | BartlomiejB
[16:19] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: have you looked in system- hardware drivers to see if there is an option
[16:19] <vbnj> hello all, i'm trying to update drivers for my nvidia graphic chipset (been a long time), but as i was going to use the nvidia binary, i saw that nouveau was at last supporting hardware acceleration and other stuff that would have me prefer the proprietary driver to it. But i also saw that there was something about kernel 2.6.39 and stuff only possible with Ubuntu 11.x
[16:19] <vbnj> any tips ?
[16:19] <Titanoboa> recon69_lap: have not
[16:20] <Titanoboa> i opened File System and couldn't find 'hardware drivers', so i guess i'll need some help, recon69_lap
[16:20] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: system menu not in file system
[16:21] <TheHarmlessWarri> That went smooth sort of
[16:21] <TheHarmlessWarri> got DCed from freenode but not internet
[16:21] <Titanoboa> recon69_lap: i've been trying to get linux working for 3 weeks and today i finally got a working hard drive and just got ubuntu installed. Feel free to assume that i know nothing about linux.
[16:21] <recon69_lap> anyone using the canon mp495 printer with 10.04
[16:21] <lewis93> I have been trying to install my lan driver for hours - rtl8192se. I tried using ndiswrapper which was apparently fine but I still couldn't connect, and I just installed the linux drivers according to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq0fcX1p-t0 but still no luck
[16:22] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: system menu is beside the places menu at the top left menubar
[16:22] <lewis93> I am on a toshiba satellite l500d
[16:22] <Titanoboa> recon69_lap: is this in 11.04?
[16:23] <recon69_lap> opps, no i still on 10.04 sorry
[16:23] <lewis93> When I put lspci in to my terminal, all of this comes up: http://paste.ubuntu.com/667453/
[16:23] <Titanoboa> ah.
[16:23] <Titanoboa> figured.
[16:23] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: it should be in system settings then, but i'm guessing
[16:23] <lewis93> What do I need to do?
[16:24] <Titanoboa> aight, went to system settings - hardware and searched for additional drivers
[16:24] <Titanoboa> none showed up
[16:24] <Polah> lewis93: And? That's just all the devices connected via PCI. You don't need to do anything...
[16:24] <lewis93> Polah, then why can't I connect to my wireless? It is like the LAN card doesn't exist; I am dependent on the ethernet cable.
[16:25] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: what graphics card you got
[16:25] <domedagen> recon69_lap: Excellent connection, going to move back to my room to see if lose connection like usually. Again ty for help and I'll stop bother you with this.
[16:25] <Titanoboa> i checked that a few weeks ago but don't remember exact model nor how to check it
[16:25] <Titanoboa> @ recon69_lap
[16:25] <recon69_lap> domedagen no problem
[16:25] <Titanoboa> a.k.a.: idk
[16:26] <kingofswords> hi im unable to gmount an .iso image and get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/667455/ when i type       dmesg | tail
[16:27] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: computer model and make
[16:27] <lewis93> Polah, any suggestions?
[16:27] <gskellig> does ubuntu have TRIM support? for SSDs?
[16:27] <hamnegga> "mount -o loop <iso_image.iso> <directory> -o loop
[16:27] <hamnegga> "
[16:27] <Polah> lewis93: I don't really know about setting up drivers, someone else would probably be more help.
[16:27] <Titanoboa> recon69_lap: someone built it for me, so i believe it's a 'custom' computer :P
[16:27] <Titanoboa> i'll just google till i find what graphic card i've got
[16:27] <Titanoboa> shouldn't take too long
[16:28] <hamnegga> sorry, command should be:  mount <iso> <dir> -o loop
[16:28] <kingofswords> gskellig, i got no idea
[16:28] <lewis93> Okay, thanks anyway. Could anyone else please help me sort out my drivers? http://paste.ubuntu.com/667453/ but still no wireless
[16:28] <kingofswords> hamnegga, do i just type that cmd into terminal?
[16:28] <Titanoboa> oh yeah there's a terminal command for it. wish i had enough brain memory to remember all those commands instantly
[16:29] <hamnegga> no replace <iso> with the real iso filename and the directory should be a real directory, I usually just create a temp one with "mkdir mount"
[16:29] <vbnj> any help ?
[16:30] <gskellig> does anybody know if ubuntu has TRIM support?
[16:30] <lewis93> I have installed my rtl8192se driver (linux) and lspci says http://paste.ubuntu.com/667453/ but still no wireless. Any help?
[16:30] <recon69_lap> having canon printer install issues pm495 in 10.04 http://pastebin.com/R6XYcgGe
[16:30] <Titanoboa> recon69_lap: 00:00.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 Memory Controller (rev a3)
[16:30] <Titanoboa> 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 ISA Bridge (rev f3)
[16:30] <Titanoboa> 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation CK804 SMBus (rev a2)
[16:30] <Titanoboa> 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a2)
[16:30] <Titanoboa> 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a3)
[16:30] <FloodBot1> Titanoboa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:30] <Titanoboa> 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[16:30] <hamnegga> lewis93, download and compile/install the latest realtek driver from realtek.com
[16:30] <gugugaga> what can i use to check my ram speed ?
[16:30] <gskellig> Titanoboa, next time use pastebin
[16:31] <hamnegga> use screenlets, looks cool
[16:31] <archman> hi
[16:31] <lewis93> hamnegga, I already have
[16:31] <hamnegga> there is a screenlet I use that looks the same as the windows sidebar gadget for cpu and ram speed
[16:31] <kingofswords> hamnegga, didnt work...even when i sudo that cmd
[16:31] <propman> Titanoboa:  not on ubuntu right now but check synaptic to see if there is a package called inxi.   install it and then type    inxi -G   in terminal for graphics card information
[16:31] <jpds> gugugaga: sudo lshw -C memory
[16:31] <Titanoboa> Sorry.
[16:31] <oCean> gugugaga: in terminal:  sudo lshw -C memory
[16:31] <jpds> oCean: Yo. o
[16:31] <jpds> o/*
[16:32] <oCean> :(
[16:32] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: use www.pastebin.com for pastes
[16:32] <Titanoboa> yeah got it
[16:32] <hamnegga> kingofswords, you need to create the directory first.  What is the iso filename?
[16:32] <Titanoboa> propman: synaptic?
[16:32] <archman> i'm having many stucks with chromium or any other browser ("Waiting for blabla.org"), i've already disabled ipv6, so what might be a problem?
[16:32] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: and i dont think you found the graphics card there
[16:32] <hamnegga> first go to the directory where the iso is, then "mkdir temp", then "mount *.iso temp -o loop"
[16:33] <kingofswords> hamnegga, sr-acbrh.iso
[16:33] <propman> Titanoboa:  use your software installation manager
[16:33] <Titanoboa> okay
[16:33] <kingofswords> hamnegga, ahh i put the file on my desktop so i need to change path name?
[16:33] <Dan18> hello
[16:33] <lewis93> hamnegga, would me running 64bit have anything to do with it? I honestly cannot see anything wrong. I just can't see any wireless networks - the option is greyed out as though my driver doesn't exist.
[16:33] <Polah> archman: More information would be good. For example, do you know if your internet is actually functioning?
[16:33] <Titanoboa> propman: inxi: Search term not found. Did you mean ini?
[16:34] <Titanoboa> is what it told me :<
[16:34] <Dan18> i am running ubuntu 64bit 11.04, i created a new user, but when logging in into the new user account, none of the users home folders were created
[16:34] <propman> Titanoboa:  no it's called inxi....guess it's not included in ubuntu then.  :(
[16:34] <Dan18> any idea why
[16:34] <archman> Polah: what info do you need? well, i'm here, so it's functioning, it's definitely the system doing something wrong..
[16:34] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: have you tried lspci
[16:34] <Titanoboa> yeah recon69_lap that's what i flooded earlier
[16:35] <Titanoboa> here's the paste of that
[16:35] <Titanoboa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/667458/
[16:35] <Polah> archman: Could be a DNS issue. Set the DNS options in your connection settings to 8.8.8.8 for primary and 8.8.4.4 for secondary and retry
[16:35] <hamnegga> for my realtek to work, which is similar but usb, there was a directory missing that loaded the firmware module, so I need to create it.  not sure what the details are, so you'd be better off following a howto on the ubuntu forums or something
[16:35] <archman> Polah: ok
[16:35] <sysopwork> ikonia, cant get mod_rewrite to work because it wants to serve a 301 redirect and before it can get to it I get the cert warning in firefox.
[16:36] <lewis93> hamnegga, okay so a how to of what exactly? I am still unclear, sorry.
[16:36] <maalac> hi, need help in getting citrix to work on OMC net connection ?
[16:36] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: try lspci -v | less
[16:37] <hamnegga> howto get your wireless card driver installed, paste your iwconfig output
[16:37] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: look for VGA in output
[16:37] <Titanoboa> so much text.
[16:37] <Dan18> boy is this a busy room ....
[16:38] <propman> Titanoboa:  ATI Technologies Inc RV515 PRO [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series
[16:38] <Dan18> are there more special purpose irc channels for ubuntu
[16:38] <Guest99290> hello
[16:39] <Pici> Dan18: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList - But if you're looking for support
[16:39] <Titanoboa> recon69_lap: http://paste.ubuntu.com/667469/
[16:39] <Pici> Dan18: er, if you're looking for support for ubuntu desktop, this is the place.
[16:39] <Polah> Dan18: #ubuntu+1 for the next release, #ubuntu-packaging for help with packages, #grub for grub help. Although, none of them are as busy as this one and we can generally help you with most things as long as it's to do with ubuntu
[16:39] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: lspci -v | grep VGA
[16:39] <Titanoboa> ok
[16:39] <Guest99290> i am using backtrack
[16:39] <Pici> Guest99290 : We do not support backtrack here, please use their support channel at #backtrack-linux
[16:40] <Guest99290> ok
[16:40] <Titanoboa> recon69_lap: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV515 PRO [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[16:40] <Titanoboa> so basically what propman said
[16:40] <Dan18> new user / account creation problems, would this be here?
[16:40] <Dan18> to ask about?
[16:40] <Polah> Dan18: Yes.
[16:41] <Dan18> ok. let me try: created a new user, logged in to the new user, but home folders werent created
[16:41] <Dan18> for the new users -- hence login failed with various .abc files not found
[16:41] <Pici> Dan18: How did you create the new users?
[16:41] <Dan18> no idea why home folders werent created.
[16:42] <Dan18> via system, administration - user groups - add user
[16:42] <archman> Polah: will i need to install bind9 and dnsutils for that?
[16:42] <Polah> archman: No, are you using GNOME?
[16:42] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+question/160346 , probably related
[16:42] <archman> Polah: yup, lucid
[16:43] <Titanoboa> thanks recon69_lap i'll look into that (and eat dinner). bbl
[16:43] <Dan18> ok, created a new user again -- only folder that was created i home is "Examples"
[16:44] <Polah> archman: Click the little connection arrows on your panel, edit connections, edit the one you want, go to IPv4 settings, set it to Automatic (DHCP) addresses only and then put: 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 in the DNS servers field.
[16:44] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa, it suggests using Ubuntu-classic (Gnome) session as a work around
[16:44] <lewis93> hamnegga, http://paste.ubuntu.com/667472/
[16:44] <Angelous> How do you unzip a .zip file?
[16:44] <Polah> Dan18: I've noticed that /etc/skel only contains Examples and a few hidden files like .bash-rc
[16:44] <Polah> angelous: unzip <file>
[16:45] <vbnj> i'm trying to update drivers for my nvidia graphic chipset (been a long time), but as i was going to use the nvidia binary, i saw that nouveau was at last supporting hardware acceleration and other stuff that would have me prefer the proprietary driver to it. But i also saw that there was something about kernel 2.6.39 and stuff only possible with Ubuntu 11.x
[16:45] <vbnj> anyone knows something ?
[16:45] <Dan18> right, etc skel only includes Examples
[16:45] <Dan18> why is that?
[16:46] <Dan18> anything i did or didnt do
[16:46] <rumpe1> Dan18, what did you expect?
[16:46] <archman> Polah: ok, i'm testing the connection now :)
[16:46] <archman> Polah: thank you for your help.
[16:46] <Polah> Dan18: I don't know, I imagine it's supposed to have Desktop, Documents and suchlike too but I never saw them. You could try adding a user from the command line and see if that's any different.
[16:47] <Dan18> i expected that creating a new user would create all default ubuntu folders in the home folder, so that login on as that user would work
[16:47] <maalac> need help in making citrix to work on OMC net ?
[16:47] <Dan18> isnt this the expected "default" behavior
[16:47] <Pici> maalac: what is OMC?
[16:47] <rumpe1> Dan18, it's the usual behavior. If you log with the user into gnome e.g., gnome will create it's folder-and configstructure
[16:47] <maalac> Secure Access SSL VPN
[16:47] <rumpe1> Dan18, it's exactly the default behaviour
[16:48] <Polah> rumpe1: Oh, so all the documents folders and suchlike are from GNOME?
[16:48] <rumpe1> Polah, yes
[16:48] <Dan18> so, gnome needs to recognize that several folders and .files are missing and create them?
[16:48] <maalac> Pici: OMC is Secure Access SSL VPN
[16:48] <lewis93> hamnegga, i just restarted and still no luck. The driver is installed it just.. doesn't work.
[16:49] <rumpe1> Dan18, yes. And this implies a method for getting back to the default config: by deleting/moving the config-folders
[16:49] <Dan18> i'll try that, thanks
[16:49] <rumpe1> Dan18, not every user on a system needs a desktop
[16:50] <Dan18> i see, is there a command i could submit to create a desktop for a user
[16:50] <rumpe1> Dan18, the desktop-files are created by the desktop-environment
[16:50] <Pici> maalac: And how is citrix not working on Ubuntu with it?
[16:50] <Cheto> Howdy
[16:50] <recon69_lap> having canon printer install issues pm495 in 10.04 http://pastebin.com/R6XYcgGe
[16:50] <Polah> Dan18: Sounds like the files would be created when the user attempts to log in
[16:50] <rumpe1> Dan18, or define your own skel(eton) structure
[16:50] <warzauwynn> sup Cheto
[16:51] <maalac> Pici:  it's actually working but i  couldnt get it to connect to OMCnet.
[16:51] <Dan18> so, once i try to log on as a user which has not desktop, the logon process should create a desktop environment
[16:51] <Dan18> is this correct?
[16:51] <recon69_lap> Dan18: should, think i remember doing it ages ago
[16:52] <Dan18> ok.
[16:52] <Dan18> i ll try
[16:52] <notacomputerguy> i have a question about a sound problem im having
[16:52] <recon69_lap> i'm still on 10.04 lts so have not been messing around with my system in over 2 years :-D
[16:53] <rumpe1> Daniel0108, man adduser: "... adduser will copy files from SKEL into the home directory..  If the file /usr/local/sbin/adduser.local exists, it will be executed after the user account has been set up..."
[16:53] <remi_> hello everybody
[16:53] <evilive> Hi all,,i installed tp-link driver,but the wireshark still can't display it? Thanks
[16:53] <lewis93> I have installed the driver rtl8192se on my toshiba satellite l500d but STILL no wireless connection. lspci and iwconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/667483/
[16:53] <recon69_lap> must check out 11.04 , see if the bugs are ironed out yet
[16:54] <iszak> How can I get Firefox 6 stable on ubuntu 11.04?
[16:54] <notacomputerguy> i was having trouble with my mic in skype, but when i tried to get it working, i messed up my sound somehow. now theres only white noise all the time
[16:54] <auronandace> !firefox | iszak
[16:54] <rumpe1> iszak, define "stable". It's not recommended.
[16:54] <iszak> firefox stable, not ubuntu stable
[16:55] <Jim455R> i have shared harddisks from windows in ubuntu but they are not showing in " save as " windows in ubuntu
[16:55] <Jim455R> why?
[16:55] <notacomputerguy> does anyone know what that might be?
[16:56] <Polah> notacomputerguy, broken sound drivers or you could have not plugged it in correctly.
[16:56] <evilive> lewis93 ,maybe you can trying following command : depmod -a                     modprobe -i r8192se_pci
[16:56] <notacomputerguy> its the internal mic
[16:57] <Polah> iszak: Just download it here http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/new/ and do whatever needs to be done to install it
[16:57] <recon69_lap> notacomputerguy: have you look at the input tab of sound preferences to see if the mic is getting sound
[16:58] <iszak> Polah, I'm assuming it's going to require me to compile or something?
[16:58] <Polah> iszak: Maybe, I'm about to look at it
[16:58] <iszak> if thats the case I won't be compiling
[16:58] <lewis93> evilive, I did that and lots of options came up. Now what do I do?
[16:58] <notacomputerguy> im not worried about the mic as much as im worried why theres only staic that cant be muted all the time now
[16:58] <recon69_lap> iszak: why, compiling is easy when it works :)
[16:59] <Aric> Would there be any benefits of using Ubuntu Server 10.4 (or 11.04) vs Debian 6.0?
[16:59] <iszak> recon69_lap, compiling means I usually have to recompile later
[16:59] <Polah> iszak: Actually runs out of the box after removing it from the archive. I'm sure it'll be added to the repositories soon anyway
[16:59] <Aric> for a LAMP Server, running Zend Server CE, ZF sites, Drupal sites, an ircd and some bots etc
[16:59] <notacomputerguy> polah: is there some setting i may have changed that would do that?
[16:59] <love4linux> does anyone know if the ralink rt3090 has problems with ad hoc connections?
[16:59] <tensorpudding> Aric: Ubuntu Server 10.04 would have a long support periods, and you can get support from Canonical
[17:00] <iszak> Polah, I doubt it, i'll probably have to wait for 11.10
[17:00] <w30> Jim455R, try to open Windows directory with places network workgroup and that will mount the windows share. maybe it will show up then
[17:00] <recon69_lap> notacomputerguy: you get static all the time even when you turn volume down
[17:00] <notacomputerguy> recon: yes i do.
[17:01] <notacomputerguy> but it happened after i was messing with sound preferences
[17:01] <Aric> tensorpudding: Dreamhost only provides VPS with Debian 6, and said it may be a hassle installing Ubuntu if I wanted to, which I use whenever I can
[17:01] <recon69_lap> having canon printer install issues pm495 in 10.04 http://pastebin.com/R6XYcgGe
[17:01] <tensorpudding> Aric: it's probably not worth the hassle
[17:01] <Aric> tensorpudding: would it be hard with Debian 6 and only SSH access to wipe my VPS and put Ubuntu 10.4 on?
[17:01] <deem> o_O pudding?
[17:01] <recon69_lap> notacomputerguy: thats bad, i'd be checking wires
[17:01] <Polah> Aric: You'll lose SSH access when you wipe it...
[17:02] <tensorpudding> Aric: i don't think that if they only provide debian they'd like you installing soemthing else
[17:02] <theadmin> Aric: Hardly even possible...
[17:02] <glebihan> iszak, there is a ppa containing firefox 6
[17:02] <iszak> glebihan, is that the aurora channel?
[17:02] <notacomputerguy> what wires?
[17:02] <recon69_lap> notacomputerguy: you might need to write a description of what you did and put it in pastebin
[17:03] <recon69_lap> notacomputerguy: so you do not end up repeating everything
[17:03] <evilive> lewis93 there two command ,first is  "depmod -a", then "modprobe -i r8192se_pci", i tried it in BT4,and there no more option show up
[17:03] <glebihan> iszak, no aurora is firefox 7
[17:03] <Kingsy101> if I have a core i7 with 4 GB of ddr3 do I need 64 bit?
[17:04] <iszak> glebihan, what's the ppa then
[17:04] <glebihan> https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[17:04] <glebihan> iszak, ^^
[17:04] <iszak> i've already added it
[17:04] <iszak> it hasn't been updated yet
[17:04] <lewis93> evilive, depmod -a output: FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.38-10-generic/modules.dep.temp for writing: Permission denied
[17:04] <glebihan> iszak, I installed firefox 6 from it the other day
[17:04] <iszak> what the crap
[17:05] <iszak> let me try it again
[17:05] <hawkal> Is there a verbose output setting for booting my computer so I can see what's going on while it's booting?
[17:05] <recon69_lap> notacomputerguy: if you cant control the volume you either got the wrong place for setting volume or you got hardware issues like a dodgy connection that's shorting, you using an external mic
[17:05] <iszak> hawkal, /var/log/boot.log ?
[17:06] <kasimir> how can I remove or add AppIndicators? Right click doesn't give me a 'remove' or 'quit' menu?
[17:06] <iszak> hawkal, it's probably in /var/log/ somewhere
[17:06] <evilive> lewis93 how about trying "sudo depmod -a" ,and "sudo modprobe -i r8192se_pci"
[17:07] <hawkal> okay thank you iszak
[17:07] <Angelous> How do you rename a file?
[17:07] <BartlomiejB> quickly.
[17:07] <Angelous> No, via command line.
[17:07] <Captainkrtek> Angelous: from a terminal mv oldfile newfile
[17:07] <kasimir> Angelous, 'mv'
[17:07] <recon69_lap> notacomputerguy there can be lots of volume settings, are you using an application volume control instead of the hardware volume control
[17:08] <Polah> iszak: The firefox build at https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable was updated an hour ago to 6.0 build 1
[17:08] <kasimir> how can I remove or add AppIndicators? Right click doesn't give me a 'remove' or 'quit' menu?
[17:08] <Angelous> Thank you.
[17:08] <iszak> Polah, yeah well I added it but it hasn't installed it
[17:08] <evilive> Angelous "mv a.txt b.txt"
[17:08] <Polah> iszak: Did you run apt-get update to update package lists?
[17:08] <iszak> yep
[17:08] <Polah> iszak: And what happens when you do apt-get install firefox?
[17:09] <iszak> Polah, already latest
[17:09] <lewis93> elvilive, sudo depmod -a does nothing and sudo modprobe -i r8192se_pci gives output "WARNING: Module r8192se_pci not found."
[17:09] <Pici> iszak: What does apt-cache policy firefox say?
[17:09] <Dan18> hello,
[17:09] <Angelous> Could it work the same way like: mv anope-1.8.6/data/example.conf /services/services.conf ?
[17:09] <Dan18> unfortuately, a desktop isnt created when i add a new user
[17:09] <Angelous> Would that move example.conf to that destination and rename it to that?
[17:09] <Dan18> also when i log into the new user using gnome classic
[17:09] <evilive> lewis93 i have no idea about it..sry..
[17:10] <lewis93> Damn, thanks anyway
[17:10] <Dan18> i am not sure why
[17:10] <lewis93> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11157765#post11157765   can anyone help?
[17:10] <Dan18> i even tried a cold start
[17:10] <recon69_lap> having canon printer install issues pm495 in 10.04 http://pastebin.com/R6XYcgGe
[17:11] <Kingsy101> how come the download for ubuntu 64bit says amd ? does that imply that its not geared towards intel ?
[17:11] <Titanoboa> [18:44:13]<recon69_lap> Titanoboa, it suggests using Ubuntu-classic (Gnome) session as a work around
[17:11] <Dan18> and then login into the newly created user ...
[17:11] <iszak> Pici, http://pastie.org/2381461
[17:11] <Titanoboa> so basically, i get gnome and install the driver, then go back to 11.04?
[17:11] <Kaellan> how do i make a new grub boot thingy? i removed a old partition and lost the boot thingy >*
[17:11] <Polah> kaellan: grub-install command
[17:12] <glebihan> iszak, are you sure the ppa is enabled ?
[17:12] <Kaellan> polah> works ewen if im on livecd now _
[17:12] <Jim455R> how to permanenlty mount windows shares in ubuntu ?
[17:12] <iszak> glebihan, I looked in synaptic and it's there
[17:12] <iszak> and I'm looking in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and it's there too
[17:12] <SIFTU> Kingsy101: no AMD came up with the 64 bit extension first.. but it works just fine on intel 64 bit too
[17:13] <Kingsy101> SIFTU - thanks
[17:13] <mang0> Guys, I've got 2 internal HDs atm, one ext4 with linux installed, and one is NTFS, that I was going to install windows on but I didn't. I want to run programs off the NTFS one, but It won't let me run anything off it. I presume it's permissions? Does it have to be ext4 to run stuff off it, and if so, how can I format it?
[17:13] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: not sure, not on 11.04 , but you should be able to unload unity and startup gnome , then play you games.
[17:14] <Titanoboa> recon69_lap: so i get gnome and install the driver to it, and then use gnome to play the game with?
[17:14] <Kaellan> polah typed grub-install and gt this answer> grub-install copies GRUB images into /boot/grub, and uses grub-setup
[17:14] <Kaellan> to install grub into the boot sector.
[17:14] <Polah> kaellan: You need to define arguments ofr it...
[17:14] <love4linux> does anyone know a similar channel to this one (#ubuntu) that is specialized in wired/wireless networks?
[17:14] <Kaellan> polah dont know how o do im kinda new to this
[17:14] <Polah> iszak: Oh, I see what the problem is. There's no 11.04 package yet. 10.04 and 10.10 so far
[17:14] <[THC]AcidRain> any suggestion for a good ftp server that actually works
[17:15] <Polah> I'm sure the 11.04 one will show up
[17:15] <iszak> ah
[17:15] <Polah> AcidRain: I use vsftpd myself
[17:15] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: depends on you usage what the best setup is for you personally, not really sure what issues you might have. do you want to just use gnome till issues fixed, just use gnome for games and unity for everything else,
[17:15] <glebihan> Polah, iszak not true, I run 11.04 and it installed fine
[17:15] <[THC]AcidRain> Polah, im going to try that. do they have gui for it?
[17:15] <SIFTU> mang0: no it doesnt have to a ext partition to run binaries off. you need the right permissions to execute
[17:15] <Polah> AcidRain: No, the config is fairly simple though
[17:15] <StrangeCharm> is there a simple viewer for ai files?
[17:15] <Kaellan> polah is the grub boot supose to be on the swap memmory or on the /dev/sda5 (my ubuntu partition)?
[17:16] <Polah> glebihan: Looking the PPA there's 6.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.04.1~mfs1 and 6.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.10.1~mfs1
[17:16] <BartlomiejB> I wanted to download source code of some package, but when I write |sudo apt-get source <pkgname>| I get: ... E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[17:16] <mang0> SIFTU: I thought it might be something to do with that. How do I check/change the premissions?
[17:16] <glebihan> Polah, iszak : though apparently it isn't there anymore....
[17:16] <mang0> permissions*
[17:16] <BartlomiejB> what can I do to fix this?
[17:16] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: there is probably  a easy way to switch, anyone know it
[17:16] <iszak> glebihan, heh...
[17:16] <BartlomiejB> I use 10.04 Lucid.
[17:16] <Titanoboa> recon69_lap: here's all i know: I got 300 fps on this machine before windows broke. I get 20-50 now. I need 200+ and im guessing it's a driver issue. It's the only game to switch.
[17:16] <tejak85> does any one know about backtrack
[17:16] <Polah> kaellan: Try this: grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda | that'll install grub in the MBR of your first hard drive and it's files will go to /boot there
[17:16] <Titanoboa> it's the only game i play* i mean
[17:16] <SIFTU> mang0: what have you got on there you wish to run? you can do a "ls -la" in a terminal and it will show you the owner and permissions
[17:16] <iszak> glebihan, maybe it was deemed instable?
[17:17] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: sounds like a unity issue not a driver issue
[17:17] <Polah> glebihan: I don't see 11.04 anything there, actually
[17:17] <iszak> s/instable/unstable/
[17:17] <Kaellan> polah permision denied
[17:17] <SIFTU> mang0: you can also right click in nautilus
[17:17] <Polah> kaellan: Oh, use sudo
[17:17] <Titanoboa> recon69_lap: quick explanation on what a unity is?
[17:17] <muneeb> hi, i'm getting Read Error on boot. here's my boot info. http://paste.ubuntu.com/667505/ any help?
[17:17] <glebihan> Polah, neither do I but I can guarantee you it was there a few days ago
[17:17] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: it the gui the replace gnome with
[17:17] <recon69_lap> the/they
[17:18] <mang0> SIFTU: Basically, I've got a fair few programs, games mostly, that I want to save there. Humble bundle, urban terror, a couple of other games, and probably move my wine C drive there too.
[17:18] <iszak> Titanoboa, Unity is a shell interface for the GNOME desktop environment developed by Canonical Ltd for its Ubuntu operating system. ?
[17:18] <Kaellan> polah /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'.
[17:18] <SIFTU> mang0: ah ok yeah you can do it.. but if you arnt using it for windows too I would suggest a native linux filesystem
[17:19] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: ok, i'm waffling, dont mind what i said
[17:19] <Polah> Kaellan: I don't recall how to solve that, try asking in #grub
[17:19] <Kaellan> polah ok ty
[17:19] <mang0> SIFTU: Yeah, I think I'm gonna change it to ext4 anyway...by doing that will it change the permissions?
[17:19] <Titanoboa> so Unity is what im using instead of GNOME
[17:19] <Titanoboa> i see
[17:20] <SIFTU> mang0: yes and no :)
[17:20] <glebihan> iszak, if you really want to install firefox 6, it's in the firefox-next ppa : https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next
[17:20] <Polah> glebihan: Strange that all the Natty packages would disappear. 6.0 beta 5 for 11.04 is in mozillateam/firefox-next
[17:20] <Polah> But that's not the stable release, that's the beta
[17:20] <BartlomiejB> how to get source code of the package from ubuntu? I wanted to download source code of some package, but when I write |sudo apt-get source <pkgname>| I get: ... E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[17:20] <iszak> glebihan, I'll just wait.
[17:20] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: seem like it's a wrapper around gnome, have you tried a classic session
[17:21] <Titanoboa> recon69_lap: i havent
[17:21] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: learning through doing :) http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Use-Classic-GNOME-Session-on-Ubuntu-11-04-200092.shtml
[17:21] <iszak> when can we expect to see full support for Dell XPS 15z on Ubuntu?
[17:22] <rabbi1> any suggestion for database designing tool for ubuntu, which is in repo...... :)
[17:22] <recon69_lap> not much printer help going around, aggh
[17:23] <recon69_lap> rabbi1: pen and paper maybe
[17:24] <rabbi1> recon69_lap: yeah, that's always the best. but not looking for best. Better should do.... :)
[17:24] <c933103> join #ubuntu-cn
[17:24] <theadmin> rabbi1: sqlite
[17:24] <Pici> rabbi1: dia? Or do you mean to actually create the database itself?
[17:24] <rabbi1> Pici: nop, i just need a schema designer....
[17:24] <muneeb> hi, i'm getting Read Error on boot. here's my boot info. http://paste.ubuntu.com/667505/ any help?
[17:24] <Titanoboa> recon69_lap: and doing this should bring my fps back to 300's? :S i don't see how that's possible
[17:25] <Pici> rabbi1: dia might be able to do that.
[17:25] <Titanoboa> either way, i guess i need to quit xchat while trying
[17:25] <Titanoboa> so i'll be back in a bit
[17:25] <rabbi1> Pici: dia?
[17:25] <Pici> !info dia | rabbi1
[17:26] <Lusitan[o]> i have installed libpcap 0.8 and it gives this error checking for pcap_open_live in -lpcap... no
[17:26] <Lusitan[o]> configure: error: No libpcap?  http://www.tcpdump.org.
[17:26] <Lusitan[o]> how to install pcap_open_live ?
[17:26] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: if it's the unity wrapper that f'n up you graphics driver it will remove it from the picture, it's just a login option, try it and see
[17:26] <Pici> Lusitan[o]: how did you install libpcap?
[17:26] <Lusitan[o]> synaptic
[17:26] <Lusitan[o]> but then i tried to install apt-get libpcap 1.1
[17:27] <Lusitan[o]> i mean, not apt get
[17:27] <Lusitan[o]> i tried to compile
[17:27] <rabbi1> !info Tora
[17:27] <Pici> Lusitan[o]: Are you trying to compile something that requires libpcap?
[17:27] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa; you can change back easily if it does not help
[17:28] <Lusitan[o]> yes
[17:28] <Pici> Lusitan[o]: You'll need libpcap0.8-dev then.
[17:28] <Zotacoo> is there a way to create a rigid folder structure which cannot be altered?
[17:28] <Lusitan[o]> libpcap0.8-dev is already the newest version.
[17:29] <Zotacoo> is there a way to unallow moving directories?
[17:29] <recon69_lap> Zotacoo: depends, you can set permissions to achieve that i would think
[17:29] <hannach> hello
[17:30] <hannach> How to install on my usb pendrive d
[17:30] <jose__> Hi, who know why when im open a web page in aspx from my apache server i got the download of that page?
[17:31] <love4linux> why is my laptop with rt3090 WNIC refusing to connect to an ad-hoc network form by two other laptops with intel pro 5100>? all laptops run ubuntu 11.04
[17:31] <iszak> hannach, should just be plug and play
[17:31] <Lusitan[o]> Pici, i already have libpcap -dev | is there any way to update the pcap_open_live ?
[17:31] <Zotacoo> i would like anybody to create folders and files from level 3 in a folder structure, but to be unallowed to modify folder names and positions on level 1 and 2...is it clear what i'm saying?
[17:31] <Titanoboa> recon69_lap: there was a slight improvement in fps, by like 50%
[17:31] <Titanoboa> but nowhere near the usual
[17:31] <glebihan> jose__, probably better asking in #httpd
[17:32] <rumpe1> jose__, sounds like something is missing in your apache-config
[17:32] <w30> Zotacoo, some one has to be able to move-delete directories or else you wreck a good computer
[17:32] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa: ok, now we look for the VIA drivers i think
[17:32] <propman> hannach:   http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[17:32] <Pici> Lusitan[o]: It should be there.
[17:32] <Zotacoo> welll of course...i mean non-root users :)
[17:33] <hannach> thanks
[17:33] <trism> Lusitan[o]: it is there in /usr/include/pcap/pcap.h, it ay help to explain what you are trying to build and pastebin the actual error
[17:33] <jose__> ok rumpe1, i go to check that now
[17:33] <Lusitan[o]> ok, on my way
[17:34] <w30> Zotacoo, other  ways is to mount it read only or set it up as special owner and group and no user write
[17:34] <Zotacoo> but then users will not be able to create files and folders from evel 3, right?
[17:35] <x0rs> Can anyone tell me what truncate() does to file objects? Google isn't turning up mcuh
[17:35] <x0rs> ie file.truncate()
[17:36] <glebihan> x0rs, did you have a look at "man truncate" ?
[17:36] <Lusitan[o]> http://pastebin.com/WNCTmDEb
[17:37] <x0rs> glebihan, doh, i thought I was in python chat... i was referencing a truncate function in python. my bad
[17:37] <glebihan> x0rs, no problem
[17:37] <recon69_lap> Titanoboa from a quick look i found AMD Catalyst 10.12 Driver For Ubuntu 11.04 , but it sounds like bleeding edge stuff still
[17:37] <js_> x0rs: it probably truncates :)
[17:38] <[THC]AcidRain> what is the default ubuntu remote desktop server?
[17:38] <[THC]AcidRain> that can be accessed from outside the network
[17:38] <x0rs> js_, u think? =) but do you have a specific understanding of how it affects any given file?
[17:38] <signatus> hi
[17:38] <glebihan> x0rs, btw it does the same thing in python, C or built-in shell command, ie truncating the file to a defined size
[17:38] <signatus> can anyone help me with my live usb ubuntu 11.04?
[17:39] <BartlomiejB> how to get source code of the package from ubuntu? I wanted to download source code of some package, but when I write |sudo apt-get source <pkgname>| I get: ... E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[17:39] <glebihan> x0rs, http://docs.python.org/release/2.5.2/lib/bltin-file-objects.html
[17:39] <signatus> I need to make it persistent so I can boot from my usb only but all the tutorials on the itnernet are obsolete
[17:39] <w30> Zotacoo, I don't know how to restrict just the presence of a directory and not sub directory creation and deletion.
[17:39] <signatus> please, I really need this :(
[17:39] <x0rs> glebihan, thx for link
[17:39] <trism> Lusitan[o]: do you have a link to where you got the source? I don't know what Firewalk is
[17:39] <glebihan> x0rs, you're welcome
[17:40] <recon69_lap> BartlomiejB: would assume you only have binnary repository's setup
[17:40] <BartlomiejB> recon69_lap: yeah, I guess so.
[17:40] <Jemt> Hi. I can't get Firefox to read config files from /etc/firefox/pref on Ubuntu 11.04 - is this a bug? The file is called settings.js and contains this: pref("general.useragent.override","Hello world");
[17:41] <BartlomiejB> Jemt: try renaming settings.js to firefox.js.
[17:41] <signatus> is there anyone here with experience in making ubuntu save changes on a liveusb?
[17:42] <Jemt> BartlomiejB: Thanks, unfortunately it did not solve the problem
[17:42] <signatus> :(
[17:42] <BartlomiejB> Jemt: do you use Firefox from Ubuntu packages or downloaded from Mozilla site?
[17:43] <bitCloud> \join zabbix
[17:43] <Lusitan[o]> firewalk cam from nmap inforamtion as one good tracert
[17:43] <Lusitan[o]> but it requires libpcap 1
[17:43] <Jemt> BartlomiejB: The one that comes with Ubuntu
[17:43] <Lusitan[o]> it says in the manual.
[17:43] <glebihan> Jemt, the files in /etc/firefox are the default configuration files, the preferences for your user are stored in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[17:44] <w30> Zotacoo, some way exists no doubt, 50 years of unix like development means some one has had a need for this
[17:44] <Jemt> glebihan: Hi. Thanks, but I need to make the configuration global - to all users
[17:44] <signatus> HEEEEEELP
[17:44] <oCean> signatus: stop that
[17:45] <signatus> dude I'm being ignored
[17:45] <signatus> and I really need help
[17:45] <BartlomiejB> Jemt: OK, so it should work (I guess). have you tested it with user on clear profile?
[17:45] <oCean> signatus: no you need to learn to have patience
[17:45] <oCean> !needhelp | signatus
[17:45] <Jemt> BartlomiejB: Nope - but I've made sure to remove .mozilla in my home folder before testing
[17:46] <BartlomiejB> Jemt: oh, I see.
[17:46] <Karen_m> i somehow got my window all monochrome, how do i get out of this?
[17:46] <glebihan> Jemt, don't know what version of firefox you're using, but for me the global configuration file seems to be named syspref.js
[17:46] <Karen_m> everything is weird looking
[17:46] <Jemt> I have been searching the net - some pages uses user_pref(..), other pages use examples with pref(..) - but I have tried both
[17:47] <w30> signatus, some times silence means some one is researching a file or a howto for you and that takes time
[17:47] <Jemt> glebihan: On my installation all I had was apturl.js - other then that, /etc/firefox/pref was empty. I just created my own file - worked fine on Ubuntu 10.10
[17:48] <glebihan> Jemt, well my /etc/firefox/pref folder is also empty, but there is a comment in the file /etc/firefox/syspref.js which says "This file can be used to configure global preferences for Firefox"
[17:48] <Jemt> glebihan: I wonder why I don't have that file... Thanks, I will look into that :)
[17:49] <BartlomiejB> Jemt: there is Firefox 6 in Ubuntu?
[17:49] <edbian> BartlomiejB: because firefox 6 came out after ubuntu 11.04
[17:49] <Altair_ibn_La-Ah> hello, newbie here
[17:49] <Jemt> BartlomiejB: I'm using FF 5.0
[17:49] <trism> Lusitan[o]: libpcap would appear to be 1.0 or greater in every version since lucid (just the package name isn't updated), you would need to check the config.log to see why it is failing
[17:50] <Altair_ibn_La-Ah> anyone here to answer a few questions?
[17:50] <Jemt> !ask
[17:50] <recon69_lap> is 11.04 released, and if so for how long
[17:50] <Jemt> 11.04 = April 2011
[17:50] <JoeR1> recon69_lap, 11.04 has been out for quite some time
[17:50] <oCean> recon69_lap: 11.04 was released in april. It has it's normal 1.5 year support
[17:51] <glebihan> Jemt, you may also find some informations there : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/810299
[17:51] <recon69_lap> hmm, seems like lots of issues with it still , think i'll keep waiting
[17:51] <Jemt> glebihan: Perfect, might be the problem I'm experiencing
[17:51] <Altair_ibn_La-Ah> i work at the a firm and it has a list of 18'000 products, i would want to put them all in a database, what program would you recommend me to use ?
[17:52] <zayed> help
[17:52] <zayed> help me
[17:52] <zayed> someone help me please
[17:52] <oCean> zayed: stop that
[17:52] <zayed> i need help
[17:52] <Jim455R> if i use connect to server and windows shares.. which directory are they mounted in ?
[17:52] <oCean> zayed: if you need support from this channel, ask a real question
[17:52] <Sp4rKy> zayed: you didn't ask any quesiton yet ...
[17:53] <edbian> Jim455R: probably in /media somewhere
[17:53] <oCean> Altair_ibn_La-Ah: this channel is for ubuntu specific questions
[17:53] <zayed> i have just install ubuntu server
[17:53] <recon69_lap> Altair_ibn_La-Ah: have you picked a database, is this going to be a simple list or are is it going to be more
[17:53] <BartlomiejB> how can I get source code of the packages in ubuntu?
[17:53] <oCean> BartlomiejB: sudo apt-get source packagename
[17:53] <zayed> i have just install ubuntu server but it is not in GUI interface
[17:53] <glebihan> BartlomiejB, apt-get source packagename
[17:53] <xangua> zayed: because it's server
[17:53] <glebihan> zayed, that's ubuntu server....
[17:54] <JoeR1> so last night I decided to compile the 3.0.1 kernel and it seemed to work ok and then a restart was required for something else and I think a I must have skipped a step because I had to force a recovery menu by hard killing power during disk access to get it to give me the option to load the old 2.6.28-10
[17:54] <BartlomiejB> oCean, glebihan: it says: E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[17:54] <glebihan> BartlomiejB, edit you sources.list to add the sources repositories
[17:54] <oCean> zayed: "server" has no GUI. You can install the desktop on top of server if you really want it
[17:54] <recon69_lap> BartlomiejB, have you checked 'sources' check box in software sources
[17:54] <edbian> BartlomiejB: sudo apt-get source <packName>
[17:54] <zayed> i was thinking that it was wrongly install anyways where i can find a complete tutorial
[17:54] <zayed> ?
[17:54] <BartlomiejB> edbian: it says: E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[17:54] <Jim455R> if i use connect to server and windows shares.. which directory are they mounted in ?
[17:54] <JoeR1> The moral of that story is "don't compile kernel's when tired"
[17:55] <oCean> zayed: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[17:55] <edbian> BartlomiejB: yeah, are you using gui or server?
[17:55] <BartlomiejB> edbian: I prefer CLI.
[17:55] <edbian> BartlomiejB: k hang on
[17:55] <BartlomiejB> what URLs should I put in sources.list?
[17:55] <Karen_m> what is that program/app that toggles NIGHT mode?  I think i'm in night mode, everything is monochrome
[17:55] <edbian> BartlomiejB: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[17:56] <edbian> BartlomiejB: The typical example at the top shows deb-src ... lines (those give you source packages)
[17:56] <recon69_lap> BartlomiejB: there is a check box called sources in the 'system-software source' dialog, you need to check that
[17:56] <glebihan> BartlomiejB, you should add the same urls as for your normal repos, replacing deb by deb-src
[17:56] <zayed> which should i select to find all the information about ubuntu server
[17:58] <glebihan> zayed, you will never find *all the information* about anything
[17:58] <zayed> why
[17:58] <zayed> ?
[17:58] <glebihan> zayed, what do you need exactly ?
[17:58] <recon69_lap> having canon printer install issues pm495 in 10.04 http://pastebin.com/R6XYcgGe
[17:59] <BartlomiejB> edbian, glebihan, recon69_lap: thank you.
[17:59] <glebihan> BartlomiejB, you're welcome
[17:59] <Lusitan[o]> itsd
[17:59] <edbian> BartlomiejB: sure
[17:59] <Lusitan[o]> 0o
[17:59] <Lusitan[o]> problem in gui. damn
[17:59] <recon69_lap> BartlomiejB: NP,  do you know anything about printers :P
[17:59] <escott> !info accountsservice
[18:00] <recon69_lap> having canon printer install issues pm495 in 10.04 http://pastebin.com/R6XYcgGe
[18:01] <zayed> i want to master ubuntu server
[18:01] <recon69_lap> zayed: well it's good that you are young then
[18:01] <Pici> zayed: Install it and use it, also see http://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/
[18:02] <w30> how does Ubuntu server differ from Ubuntu desktop? Does server come with LAMP,  ftp,  sftp print servers and no gui? or does it come with a lot cli tools that desktop does with gui apps.
[18:02] <Lusitan[o]> http://pastebin.com/kPFL6RGi - this is my config log
[18:02] <zayed> thanks you a lots Pici
[18:02] <zayed> thanks everyone
[18:02] <wangerin> Hi! I need to be able to use "lsusb -t" on a 8.04 server. Right now I get an error: "cannot open /proc/bus/usb/devices, No such file or directory (2)" Any idea on how to solve that problem?
[18:03] <heat1_> hi
[18:03] <milamber> !server | w30
[18:03] <heat1__> can somebody help me?
[18:03] <w30> Is Ubuntu server more locked down and harder for a stupid person to use?
[18:03] <heat1__> hi
[18:03] <heat1__> hola
[18:03] <heat1__> as
[18:03] <auronandace> heat1__: not if you don't tell us the problem
[18:03] <bindi_> !ask | heat1__
[18:04] <heat1> hi
[18:04]  * w30 stupid
[18:04] <heat1> hola
[18:04] <oCean> heat1: stop that
[18:04] <Pici> w30: Its a cli install that allows you to pick some server packages at install time, no gui installed by default.
[18:04] <heat1> can somebody help me?
[18:04] <zug> hello, does anyone know how to make a persistent live usb ubuntu 11.04?
[18:04] <oCean> heat1: just ask your question
[18:05] <milamber> !usb | zug
[18:05] <jose__> Hi, who know why when im open a web page in aspx from my apache server i got the download of that page?
[18:05] <heat1> I need to know how I can use persistent ip routes on ubuntu
[18:05] <wangerin> zug: Just check the appropriate option in strup-creator
[18:05] <heat1> I introduced in the file interfaces this line: up route add -net 192.168.0.0/10 gw 192.168.1.1
[18:06] <cfedde> jose__: apache on ubuntu serving aspx?
[18:06] <recon69_lap> w30: would assume that you get a command line interface and little else from a server install, you probably get the option to select what software you want from installer. server is really for production and not necessary otherwise, unless you want to learn about setting up production level servers
[18:06] <heat1> but it didn't work
[18:06] <jose__> yes cfedde
[18:06] <glebihan> w30, server is harder if you're not used to use cli, otherwise it's pretty much the same
[18:06] <zug> I used the pendrive creator but it didn't work
[18:06] <zug> I've also checked that tutorial but it seems to be rather old
[18:06] <Kingsy> guys just installed ubuntu, how do I go about installing my nvidia drivers?
[18:06] <milamber> !doesntwork
[18:07] <cfedde> jose__: you're getting the page text because the apache does not know how to run the asp stuff.
[18:07] <cfedde> jose__: you ave mono and xsp installed?
[18:07] <zug> I can run ubuntu 11.04 from my pen drive, but the casper-rw partition cannot be accessed
[18:07] <kitche> jose__: apache doesn't understand aspx unless you install mod_mono or mod_aspdotnet
[18:07] <recon69_lap> Kingsy: look for device drivers icon in your system menu.
[18:08] <w30> zug I used Ubuntu's boot disc creator. It will allow you to pick a flash drive if you insert one and it allows 4 gig writable space if you have a big enough flash drive
[18:08] <zug> it simply sits there, I can't even change to it in my explorer thingy
[18:08] <jane--> in what language does ubuntu and its (and linux various majority softwares are made in) ?
[18:08] <JoeR1> I don't suppose anyone here knows what a lilo.conf file is supposed o look like?
[18:08] <jane--> in what programming language does ubuntu and its (and linux various majority softwares are made in) ?
[18:08] <bkerensa> jane--: A variety of languages
[18:08] <cfedde> jane--: the core stuff is mostly C.  Everything else is an mixture.
[18:08] <jane--> bkerensa most common one ?
[18:09] <zug> w30, where can that be found? would I be able to use ubuntu on a HDD-less computer? and with persistent changes?
[18:09] <JoeR1> c++
[18:09] <Pici> JoeR1: Look at /usr/share/doc/lilo/examples/conf.sample perhaps?
[18:09] <BartlomiejB> jane--: kernel is in C, most core tools are in C, shell, some perl/python etc.
[18:09] <jane--> cfedde ok. but thats very low level. by C do you mean C and C ++
[18:09] <bkerensa> jane--: C
[18:09] <cfedde> jane--:  C
[18:09] <trism> Lusitan[o]: do you have libnet1-dev installed?
[18:09] <JoeR1> Pici - we shall see if it exists
[18:09] <jose__> cfedde, kitche i have mod_mono, but xsp no
[18:09] <cfedde> jose__: hints about what is going wrong might be in the apache log files.
[18:09] <jane--> cfedde bkdoor BartlomiejB ok. but thats very low level. by C do you mean C and C ++
[18:09] <w30> zug, its in the repos try search usb-creator
[18:09] <Pici> JoeR1: The lilo-doc package also contains a bunch of examples in /usr/share/doc/lilo-doc/examples/sample/
[18:09] <recon69_lap> jane--: C and C++, but all languages used. but by ubuntu do you mean the kernal
[18:09] <cfedde> jane--: a when I say C I mean C
[18:10] <BartlomiejB> jane--: end-user tools like graphical webbrowsers are usually written in C++, though.
[18:10] <zug> w30, that's the thing I used, t just created a single FAT32 partition, and it didn't save any changes I made
[18:10] <Lusitan[o]> trism, i didnt have it. now i installed but it gives the same error
[18:11] <Lusitan[o]> configure: failed program was:
[18:11] <Lusitan[o]> #line 2310 "configure"
[18:11] <Lusitan[o]> #include "confdefs.h"
[18:11] <w30> zug, I am on my Lubuntu netbook right now that I made a flash install disk for since it does not have a cd drive.
[18:11] <jane--> cfedde bkdoor BartlomiejB i want to learn a programming language and start making tools for linux. and maybe for windows but not interested at this time.   which language shouldi use ?
[18:11] <zug> w30, I'll try it again then
[18:11] <BartlomiejB> jane--: but, as other said, the whole distro is a mix of everything. ;) you can ask for a particular package/progeram.
[18:11] <Lusitan[o]> maybe i could install individual includes to libpcap?
[18:12] <jane--> BartlomiejB in what languages most programs are made for linux use?
[18:12] <glebihan> Lusitan[o], you should also have libpcap-dev installed if you haven't already
[18:12] <cfedde> jane--: depends if you have any proramming background.
[18:12] <jane--> cfedde i dont
[18:12] <BartlomiejB> jane--: try to learn any programming language for a start.
[18:12] <w30> zug, option create the 4gig writable partition has to be checked
[18:12] <Lusitan[o]> i do
[18:12] <Lusitan[o]> :\
[18:12] <cfedde> jane--: I'd find a good tutorial on C and work your way through that.
[18:12] <recon69_lap> zug, you want a bootable usb , try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td_RqaGx4aM
[18:12] <Jemt> BartlomiejB and glebihan: Thanks for your help guys. The configuration files are now located in /usr/share/xul-ext/ubufox/defaults/preferences/. I found it using "locate .js" :-)
[18:12] <cfedde> jane--: you might also find a good tutorial on the unix command line tools.
[18:12] <jrmcm> what is update-apt-xapi?
[18:13] <glebihan> Jemt, thanks for the feedback, that's good to know
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> !info update-apt-xapi
[18:13] <BartlomiejB> Jemt: interesting, thanks for the info.
[18:13] <jane--> cfedde if all that can be done in c and be done in c++ and c++ is easier and a superset of c. then why not use c++ instead of c?
[18:14] <Jemt> My pleasure :)
[18:14] <trism> Lusitan[o]: the only other thing I notice is it is looking at /usr/local/lib/libpcap.so and not the system version, otherwise I am out of ideas without being able to compile and test myself
[18:14] <Lusitan[o]> maybe i dont have C libraries to compile it
[18:14] <jrmcm> I have updated to natty and it still runs occasionaly using up to 90% of the cpu
[18:14] <glebihan> !find update-apt-xapi | jrmcm
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> jrmcm: is it hogging your cpu?
[18:15] <JoeR1> Pici - is it necessary for me to designate what kernel I want to use in the lilo.conf file or do you know?
[18:15] <kingsley> Where might I find a copy of the file named "marblemouse.conf"?
[18:15] <jrmcm> ActionParsnip, yes badly
[18:15] <bernhard2> Having about 5 errors in my log during bootup. help fixing these would be great.. check em out here..  http://pastebin.com/dFABgSqe
[18:15] <Pici> JoeR1: I'm afraid I don't know anything else about lilo.  I was just looking through the package contents.
[18:15] <recon69_lap> jane--: because a lot of c code already written and debugged, is there value in rewriting it
[18:15] <Jim455R> if i used in ubuntu " connect to... windows shares " where is the location of the mounted windows shares ?
[18:15] <JoeR1> Pici - very well, thanks anyway
[18:16] <Kingsy> ok I have installed my graphics driver, it seems to be ok but i have a couple of questions about ubuntu 11.04... firstly what happened to grub? I no longer see the selector screen i used to with older versions of ubuntu?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> jrmcm: seems common, just did a quick websearch
[18:16] <jane--> recon69_lap ok
[18:16] <geekster> Hi. Can any1 help me with Samba import Hard Disk which already has files/folders on it.
[18:17] <jrmcm> ActionParsnip, ok its had me a little worried thx for the info. :)
[18:17] <w30> Jim455R, there should be a folder created by the mount on your Desktop, left click on the icon and check properties
[18:17] <kingsley> Can ubuntu's web site find a file having a certain name? If so, what's the URL?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> jrmcm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1086435
[18:17] <alazare619> anyone know where the hosts file is located i wana add redirets to 127.0.0.1 for every ad server on the internet like easylists adblock for ff
[18:17] <BartlomiejB> jane--: bigger programs may be slower if written in C++ than in C...
[18:18] <kitche> Kingsy: Grub still there it's grub2
[18:18] <tsimpson> BartlomiejB: that's untrue
[18:18] <tsimpson> and offtopic :)
[18:18] <Kingsy> kitche: and you dont see that on boot?
[18:18] <kingofswords> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[18:18] <kingofswords>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[18:18] <kingofswords>  i get this when trying to mount?
[18:18] <BartlomiejB> tsimpson: what about exceptions?
[18:18] <recon69_lap> jane--: also i think that c still has advantages when programming in restricted environments like embedded chips. but i could be wrong on this
[18:18] <glebihan> kingsley, I don't know if there is something like this on the website but ubottu can do that: try "/msb ubotty find filename"
[18:18] <glebihan> s/ubotty/ubottu
[18:18] <llutz> alazare619: /etc/hosts
[18:18] <BartlomiejB> tsimpson: I mean C++ exceptions.
[18:19] <jane--> recon69_lap c is very difficult to learn. and c is very difficult to program either...
[18:19] <Kingsy> kitche: also, what is up with ubuntus new look? I don't like that thing down the left, I prefer the old style. can you get it back?
[18:19] <alazare619> adblock lets you still connect to them llutz hopefully this will just 404 the adds before even touching the servers and should speed up internet browsing really quick
[18:19] <tsimpson> BartlomiejB: well, first you don't have to use them. and second, if your application throws so many exceptions that it slows things down, you've designed it poorly
[18:19] <BartlomiejB> tsimpson: oh, really? I guess there is really some reason that eg. code of Firefox doesn't use exceptions.
[18:19] <Kingsy> and the menu system.. I prefer the old menu
[18:20] <kitche> Kingsy: that's Unity, to get gnome2 back to defaults you need to install ubuntu-classic I think it's called for package You will only see a menu if you have other systems installed
[18:20] <w30> kingsley, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[18:21] <recon69_lap> jane--:  C++ not exactly easy either. but it's the application you creating that should decide the tool. you trying to pick a language to learn
[18:21] <w30> kingsley, it's got a search box, try it i quess/
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> alazare619: /etc/hosts   I do the same :-)
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> alazare619: gimme a sec i'll give you the entries I have
[18:21] <geekster> Hi. I have 2 x 2tb HTPC ext4 (1 folder on each hard disk) data drives I am trying to add to PC which has Samba installed. I have created fstab entries and the 2 partitons are mounted at boot. Have setup Samba shares and I can view the mounted partions but cannot view the folder trees on the 2 partitions? Remember the files and folders were created on another PC.
[18:21] <jane--> recon69_lap with what language should i go with if i want to make applications?
[18:22] <Kingsy> hmm let me try it out
[18:22] <bleahhh> EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGER
[18:22] <bleahhh> S _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING NIGGERS _!_ EAT DICK FUCKING
[18:22] <alazare619> ActionParsnip,  thanks
[18:22] <BartlomiejB> jane--: it depends on applications.
[18:23] <lowbudgetlaptops> what is that about ?
[18:23] <BartlomiejB> jane--: as I said - try to learn any language for a start, on whatever platform. the rest will come itself ;-)
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> alazare619: http://paste.ubuntu.com/667558
[18:23] <jane--> BartlomiejB what languages can be multiplatformed. ie. same app i just made can run on linux as wel as windows ?
[18:23] <jane--> BartlomiejB hm
[18:24] <BartlomiejB> jane--: Java. also Perl / Python, to some extent.
[18:24] <recon69_lap> jane--: but you would really use several different programming languages for most applications. some better for the gui, some better for number crunching
[18:24] <emyller_> hi fellows
[18:24] <tsimpson> jane--: that is offtopic for #ubuntu
[18:24] <alazare619> thanks ActionParsnip
[18:24] <jane--> BartlomiejB hm
[18:25] <emyller_> i ran into a pretty tough situation today with my hard dirsk
[18:25] <alazare619> ActionParsnip,  how well does that work for you do you get 404 adds or do they just not show up at all?
[18:25] <emyller_> i've been on it for hours trying to recover my data, and i finally did
[18:25] <jane--> BartlomiejB recon69_lap i hope c and cplus syntax is very much similer
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> alazare619: obviously remove the top fileserver entry, that's MY IP for my fileserver, may cause issues
[18:25] <emyller_> now i just need to move the recovered partition to the right place, and i'm dd'ing it to there
[18:25] <tsimpson> jane--: please take the discussion out of #ubuntu
[18:26] <emyller_> i'm just wondering if it's a problem to use a high block size like 1M for the copy
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> emyller_: why don't you have a backup?
[18:26] <jane--> tsimpson ok
[18:26] <recon69_lap> jane--: i'd suggest java if you want fully functional and not to hard to learn
[18:26] <emyller_> ActionParsnip: i've a partial backup, but i wanted everything in the disk. actually i have it already, after one night playing at a shell. :)
[18:27] <Lusitan[o]> trism, removing libpcap with apt and then from sinaptic might resolve?
[18:27] <Lusitan[o]> if re installed
[18:27] <kingsley> w30: For what it's worth, I followed your very reasonable suggestion and methodically searched all seventeen distributions for a file name like "marblemouse.conf".
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> emyller_: i suggest you review you backup regime after you get sorted :)
[18:28] <emyller_> ActionParsnip: sure thing
[18:28] <kingsley> w30: Despite the file being referred to on numerous web sites, packages.ubuntu.com and I failed to find it.
[18:29] <w30> kingsley, is there such a thing as a marble mouse driver package?
[18:29] <whalesalad> can anyone help me determine the base python ./configure parameters in ubuntu?
[18:29] <emyller_> but for now, i just have to handle this situation... so, dd's default bs is 512; i tweaked it to 4M for read/write and I got a huge speed increase. (the copy just finished now, though; took 20min only)
[18:29] <whalesalad> the ones that the apt-get package use.. I would just like to know what the full config string is for fun
[18:29] <emyller_> just wanted to know... is it problematic to tweak the block size like that?
[18:29] <glebihan> !find marblemouse.conf | kingsley
[18:29] <kingofswords> hi can anyone recommend a good ubuntu help channel please?
[18:30] <BartlomiejB> kingofswords: this one?
[18:30] <alazare619> ActionParsnip, is it hosts.conf or hosts
[18:30] <kingofswords> BartlomiejB, nah im after one where ppl HELP
[18:30] <trism> Lusitan[o]: I just meant it seemed like you compiled and installed libpcap from source. if so you may want to remove it from /usr/local/ since it is overriding the system versions
[18:30] <trism> Lusitan[o]: but I don't know if it will help
[18:30] <niche> hey guys I've got big problems. My Windows 7 HDD will no longer boot after installing Ubuntu. If it is the top priority HDD or if my Ubuntu HDD is disconnected, I get stuck at a command line "grub>"
[18:30] <alazare619> wich would i put those into i have hosts.conf hostname and hosts.allow and hosts.deny
[18:30] <alazare619> ActionParsnip, wich would i put those into i have hosts.conf hostname and hosts.allow and hosts.deny
[18:30] <w30> !find marblemouse
[18:30] <jane--> recon69_lap thx
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> alazare619: /etc/hosts
[18:30] <Jordan_U> emyller_: No. The only difference that changing the block size will have is in speed and RAM usage (unless you're using count=).
[18:31] <Lusitan[o]> hand removing libpcap in 3, 2 1...
[18:31] <Pleiadeez> does anyone here use VNC on a regular basis?
[18:31] <w30> !find anything
[18:31] <asher^> hi all, in a program like 'top', it lists three numbers as my load average. what are these numbers?
[18:31] <oCean> w30: please use the bot in private:  /msg ubottu !bot
[18:31] <emyller_> Jordan_U: good to hear. i thought i'd en up messing with disk sectors and such stuff.
[18:32] <emyller_> Jordan_U: it seems i'm safe to go, then. :)
[18:32] <glebihan> asher^, I think it's last 1, 5 and 15 minutes
[18:32] <asher^> glebihan for cpu use?
[18:32] <recon69_lap> having canon printer install issues pm495 in 10.04 http://pastebin.com/R6XYcgGe , any suggestions
[18:32] <emyller_> thanks all.
[18:32] <Pici> asher^: Take a look at « man uptime » for a description of what load average is.
[18:32] <emyller_> btw, fsck -f told the partition is okay
[18:32] <asher^> ok thanks
[18:33] <heat1> Can someone help me?
[18:33] <kingsley> w30 & glebihan: I may have found it embedded at http://www.thecodehouse.com/2011/02/27/my-logitech-marble-mouse-ubuntu-10-10/
[18:34] <asher^> interesting, thankyou
[18:34] <heat1> asher
[18:34] <recon69_lap> jane--: you should jump onto a java channel and ask them what they think, you'll get a one sided view but probably a expert one
[18:34] <glebihan> asher^, also good informations there : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_%28computing%29#Unix-style_load_calculation
[18:34] <heat1> can you hel me with ip routes in ubuntu?
[18:34] <jane--> hm
[18:34] <Lusitan[o]> trism, it worked. but now it gives me the same error. libdnet is saying its missing, but i have it installed. im goinf to config.log now to search the dir for libdnet and remove it xD thanks.
[18:35] <heat1> I have a problem with routes in ubuntu...
[18:35] <heat1> someone help me please
[18:35] <Kingsy> ok, I installed ubuntu on my system, I had RAID setup onboard and the ubuntu installation seems to have detected it as there was only one drive on the installation process whereas there should have been two. So I chose to use the RAID drives as my /home drive. It seems to have worked BUT there is only 870GB free with nothing on it.. its a 1TB drive..
[18:35] <Kingsy> what happened?
[18:35] <asher^> load average: 0.25, 1.36, 16.07 does that look unusual?
[18:35] <Kingsy> also in disk utility both drives appear in SATA host devices and peripheral devices
[18:36] <stickyboy> asher^: How many CPUs do you have?
[18:36] <Kingsy> is this setup correctly or do I need to do this manually?
[18:36] <asher^> stickyboy its a cloud server, 4 virtual cpus with cpu bursting available
[18:37] <stickyboy> asher^: A load of 1 is 100%.
[18:37] <niche> hey guys I've got big problems. My Windows 7 HDD will no longer boot after installing Ubuntu. If it is the top priority HDD or if my Ubuntu HDD is disconnected, I get stuck at a command line "grub>"
[18:37] <stickyboy> asher^: So if you have 4 CPUs and maybe it bursted to more... it's theoretically right.
[18:37] <love4linux> anyone know a tutorial to help me install a windows 7 virtual machine on ubuntu 11.04?
[18:37] <auero> Anyone know how I can allow ubuntu to remotely mount a share via smb://?
[18:37] <asher^> ok cool
[18:37] <stickyboy> 1600% == 16 CPUs at 100%.
[18:37] <stickyboy> I have a quad eight-core CPU that is at 3200% sometimes hehehe
[18:38] <asher^> its coming down now thankfully, my server did slow down about 15 mins ago though
[18:39] <wangerin> stickyboy and asher^: A load average of 16 do not mean that you have 16cpu running 100%. It means that 16 processes was waiting to get cpu-time
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Niche: boot to ubuntu and run: sudo apt-get install os-prober; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[18:40] <v_y> my cpu fan seems to be at fullspeed when running ubuntu 10.10. is it possible that there is no software fan control by default?
[18:40] <mang0> love4linux: it's not that hard...but youtube and google I suppose.
[18:40] <stickyboy> wangerin: That's new to me... lemme go read the docs.
[18:40] <mang0> love4linux: Use virtual box
[18:41] <stickyboy> wangerin: You're right.  Looks like I confused some concepts.
[18:41] <mang0> Is there a way to make a small terminal implemented into my desktop?
[18:41] <wangerin> stickyboy and asher^: If you have many processes reading data from a slow (usb-)disk you might have many processes waiting, but nearly no cpu-load
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> V_y: there is you acpi may be weird. You may need a boot option or some other setting to make it better. Also check for bugs
[18:42] <v_y> ActionParsnip: hmmm, check for bugs?
[18:42] <heat1> hi
[18:42] <Pleiadeez> My home computer is at the login screen, so I can't VNC in. Is there anyway to remotely log in so I can VNC in? I have SSH access
[18:42] <heat1> someone
[18:42] <archman> is there a way to remove a keyboard layout indicator?
[18:43] <love4linux> mang0 yeah I am into youtube right now searching for it... do you know if virtualbox is the best solution for virtual machines in linux?
[18:43] <mang0> IMO it is love4linux
[18:43] <HSarena> hello, i have a problem
[18:43] <stickyboy> wangerin: According to the `uptime` man page a load of 1 means the processor is loaded "all the time"...
[18:43] <heat1> hello man0
[18:43] <niche> Thank you ActionParsnip
[18:43] <heat1> can you help me?
[18:44] <HSarena> i wanna use unity on ubuntu but i can't
[18:44] <sweb> ubuntu 11 is really disappointed us. where is the VPN connections list, i create a vpn connection but not appear in networks
[18:44] <love4linux> mang0 what is IMO?
[18:44] <HSarena> please answer me
[18:44] <HSarena> i need help
[18:44] <mang0> love4linux: In my opinion
[18:44] <SubjectOne> imo : in my opinion
[18:45] <SubjectOne> :p
[18:45] <love4linux> : ) okays thanks
[18:45] <Pici> !details | HSarena
[18:45] <mang0> !ask HSarena
[18:45] <mang0> oops
[18:45] <mang0> !ask > HSarena
[18:45] <mang0> O.o
[18:45] <mang0> wth
[18:45] <mang0> ah
[18:45] <FloodBot1> mang0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:45] <rockyz> hey i need help with ssh command can anyone lend a hand
[18:45] <urlin2u> HSarena, fresh install?
[18:45] <Pici> rockyz: Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[18:46] <wangerin> stickyboy: Myeah on a single processor mashine it correct. On a multi-cpu mashine it's more complex ;-)
[18:46] <Kingsy> ok guys, can someone around please talk to me about how to best setup my hdd.. if someone has the time?
[18:46] <stickyboy> wangerin: Yah, thanks for correcting me though
[18:46] <rockyz> while using a sshwindow, when i open a process (bitchx) how do i push it to the background so that it stays open when i close my ssh client
[18:46] <stickyboy> It's a slight difference, but important.
[18:46] <Pici> !screen | rockyz
[18:47] <rockyz> ty pici
[18:47] <recon69_lap> heat1: you going to have to ask with more info that that if you hope to get an answer
[18:47] <archman> Kingsy: if you're having plenty of ram you don't need a swap partition, so make / and /home, in example
[18:47] <HSarena> I have a problem with login in unity mode, i have ubuntu 11.04 Gnome, when i try to login with unity mode it shows an error that explain it have a problem with my hardware
[18:47] <Pici> rockyz: And you might be interested to know that bitchx is unsupported upstream, and it isn't even in the Ubuntu repositories  anymore.
[18:48] <wangerin> stickyboy: But in general you're right. a load of 1 pr cpu generally means full load on every cpu, but it depends on what you are doing on the mashine
[18:48] <Kingsy> archman: its not that.. see I have 2 1TB hdd, and I do have an onboard RAID controller.. however I really don't understand how to set it up
[18:48] <urlin2u> HSarena, have you logged into the classic dsktop and searched for graphic drivers.
[18:48] <recon69_lap> HSarena: cut and paste the error into www.pastebin.com and give us the resulting link
[18:48] <rockyz> Pici i figured it was a command in the SSH clien rather then in bitchx its self sorry
[18:48] <archman> Kingsy: aaah, i don't know anything about that
[18:48] <Kingsy> archman: np
[18:48] <Pici> rockyz: No need to apoligize.
[18:49] <Kingsy> does anyone know anything about RAID?
[18:50] <Firefishe> Pici, usr13:  I just completed the upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 and have absolutely no networking, not even ethernet recognition.  It's as if my modules weren't even there.  I've tried various of the kernels I have and nothing works, not even under failsafe.
[18:50] <HSarena> urlin2u: how to search an install graphic drivers
[18:50] <HSarena> ??
[18:51] <urlin2u> HSarena, additional drivers in the menu, also knowing what the graphic chipset or card is.
[18:51] <traskers> I'm attempting to build "volumeicon", but it keeps running into the error of "Package requirements (alsa) were not met: No package 'alsa' found" but I have all of alsa-base, alsa-utils, and alsa-tools installed. The site for the app says I need "alsa-lib" but that doesn't exist in Ubuntu repos.
[18:52] <newbee> how to set nautilus as default filemanager in xubuntu 11.04 ?
[18:52] <urlin2u> HSarena, if you run in the terminal lspci you will see multiple lines one will identify the graphic card
[18:52] <escott> !anyone | Kingsy
[18:52] <HSarena> urlin2u : ok, i do it
[18:52] <derland> hi
[18:53] <HSarena> urlin2u : but i can't understand what it is
[18:53] <Firefishe> I have an Asus G50V Laptop.  I just upgraded from lucid to maverick, and have absolutely no networking.
[18:54] <newbee> how to set nautilus as default filemanager in xubuntu 11.04 ?
[18:54] <Lusitan[o]> im having the same problem. some lib's i tried to compile are overiding the synaptic installed. what should i read? or search to understand how this thing works? plz help
[18:54] <Kingsy> escott: well I wanna know how to setup my fake raid on ubuntu
[18:55] <newbee> how to set nautilus as default filemanager in xubuntu 11.04 ?
[18:55] <newbee> how to set nautilus as default filemanager in xubuntu 11.04 ?
[18:55] <auronandace> newbee: open application settings and pick preferred applications
[18:55] <sweb>  where is the VPN connections list, i create a vpn connection but not appear in networks
[18:56] <HSarena> urlin2u : what can i do
[18:56] <alpha> hi,has anybody else experienced a total computer freeze with ubuntu 11.04??
[18:56] <auronandace> newbee: whats wrong with thunar anyway?
[18:56] <HSarena> ok
[18:56] <krey_> hello, how can I make ubuntu boot into tty1 by default?
[18:56] <aarobc> Um, guys, I fscked up my permissions, and now I cant change them back even as root :(
[18:56] <heat1> hello HSarena
[18:56] <EgyParadox> sweb: Click on the network manager applet and wait it will apear shortly
[18:56] <EgyParadox> appear*
[18:56] <HSarena> hello i have problem with login in unity mode
[18:57] <pishposh> A family member of mine got their windows machine infested with viruses and adware. I was wondering what tools on linux side you all like to use to clean up windows machines? So far I'm using ClamAv from SystemRescueCD and thats about it.
[18:57] <recon69_lap> HSarena: try lspci -v | grep VGA
[18:57] <EgyParadox> under vpn connections
[18:57] <urlin2u> HSarena, you have to be spefic here, if you mean the lspci command your looking for something like this.    VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[18:57] <heat1> Hello Andy80
[18:57] <aarobc> Halp pls
[18:57] <sweb>  EgyParadox, how much longer 20 min is enough ?
[18:57] <heat1> Hello sweb
[18:58] <Lusitan[o]> im having the same problem. some lib's i tried to compile are overiding the synaptic installed. what should i read? or search to understand how this thing works? i dont understand the instalation tree info. any recomendeds to read?
[18:58] <sweb> heat1, hello
[18:58] <derland> Hello i need help bought a new pc, which operating system should i install. it has got 8 gb memory, ssd with trim and multi core
[18:58] <newbee> auronandace : got used to nautilus too much :p
[18:58] <sweb> heat1, what's happened to ubuntu on this version
[18:58] <derland> should i take 10.04 11.10 or 10.10 or 11.04
[18:58] <heat1> Can you help me with ip routes in ubuntu?
[18:58] <Andy80> hello heat1
[18:58] <recon69_lap> pishposh: just install ubuntu on his machine and select the windows skin and dont tell them :P
[18:58] <EgyParadox> sweb: They do appear but not directly after connection creation
[18:58] <llutz> !help | heat1
[18:59] <alpha> derland, i'd suggest ubuntu 10.04
[18:59] <milad_> hi every body , i have a mack book pro 5,4 and i cant install ubuntu 11.04  amd 64 on that(10.10 worked fine) any idea ?
[18:59] <sweb> EgyParadox, so ridiculous
[18:59] <aarobc> Um, guys, I fscked up my permissions, and now I cant change them back even as root :(
[18:59] <newbee> BTw does removing thunar affect the desktop.............afect the dispaly of icons or something like that
[18:59] <urlin2u> derland, your choice really try out them from a live cd and choose, or ask questions once testing.
[18:59] <Dan18> hello
[18:59] <heat1> the problem is that I need make an ip route persitent
[18:59] <aarobc> I can't change the permissions on my home folder
[18:59] <Jim455R> how to force " show hidden files " all the time ?
[18:59] <pishposh> recon69_lap: ha, I would if I could but somehow I dont think they would like that
[18:59] <Jim455R> i found it
[18:59] <Dan18> wasn't able to create a user with a desktop environment in ubuntu
[18:59] <Jim455R> thanks
[19:00] <HSarena> urlin2u : ok , just give me a plan to use unity (launcher)
[19:00] <rumpe1> Dan18, what's the problem?
[19:00] <Dan18> login in to the new user does not create a new desktop, and various error messages are returned
[19:00] <urlin2u> Jim455R, in the files dropdownview
[19:00] <heat1> the problem is that I need make an ip route persitent, I wrote this line in /etc/network/interfaces: up route add -net 192.168.0.0/10 gw 192.168.1.1, but it doesn't work
[19:00] <EgyParadox> sweb: it isn't listed under VPN connections?
[19:01] <Dan18> Rumpe1: is there a simple way to get all folders and hidden files required for Gnome to boot created?
[19:01] <urlin2u> HSarena, I have you have to identify your graphic card to begin with.
[19:01] <recon69_lap> Dan18: paste the errors, maybe nothing to do with desktop
[19:01] <llutz> heat1: did you add that into the right stanza?
[19:01] <Jim455R> urlin2u yeah i found it.. sometimes i'm lazy
[19:01] <pishposh> well maybe this isnt the right place to be asking this anyways. Anyone know of a helpful, active channel for windows virus,adware removal or even general techsupport channel?
[19:01] <Jim455R> thanks again
[19:01] <urlin2u> Jim455R, no problem
[19:01] <newbee> does removing thunar affect the desktop.............afect the dispaly of icons or something like that ?
[19:01] <heat1> what's that?
[19:01] <Kingsy> has anyone here got RAID working on ubuntu?
[19:01] <Kingsy> fake RAID at that
[19:01] <heat1> what's stanza?
[19:01] <HSarena> urlin2u : nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 9300M GS]
[19:01] <Dan18> first error is can't access .iceauthority
[19:02] <michlemken-1> does compiz make problems in ubuntu ?
[19:02] <llutz> heat1: the definition-part related to your iface
[19:02] <xangua> newbee: if you mean on xfce yes, thunar shows the wallpaper and icons on it
[19:02] <Dan18> which is logical since it doesnt exist
[19:02] <recon69_lap> Dan18: did you delete your user folder
[19:02] <Dan18> then there is an error related to the monitor settings
[19:02] <rumpe1> Dan18, Gnome doesn't need any file/folder in $HOME to start
[19:02] <newbee> does removing thunar affect the xubuntu desktop.............afect the dispaly of icons or something like that
[19:02] <heat1> I don't understand
[19:02] <Dan18> recon69, no, i tried create a new user and then switch to the new user
[19:02] <heat1> please explain
[19:02] <llutz> heat1: pastebin your /e/n/interfaces please
[19:03] <Lusitan[o]> im having the same problem. some lib's i tried to compile are overiding the synaptic installed. what should i read? or search to understand how this thing works? i dont understand the instalation tree info. any recomendeds to read?
[19:03] <Dan18> rumpe1 what process/program requires these settings
[19:03] <heat1> aja, i added that line there
[19:03] <lake> [D/leave
[19:03] <HSarena> urlin2u : is it ok, is it good for using unity????
[19:03] <urlin2u> HSarena, excellent have you updated the computer.
[19:03] <millertimek1a2m3> hey anyone know much about apache?
[19:03] <newbee> does removing thunar affect the desktop.............afect the dispaly of icons or something like that
[19:03] <heat1> that's the line
[19:03] <heat1> up route add -net 192.168.0.0/10 gw 192.168.1.1
[19:03] <SIFTU> newbee: no.. Thunar doesnt handle the desktop like nautilus or pcmanfm does
[19:03] <llutz> heat1: pastebin your /e/n/interfaces please
[19:03] <sweb> EgyParadox, that's right,
[19:03] <HSarena> i have to update my system????
[19:04] <sweb> EgyParadox, after version 11 is so ridiculous
[19:04] <newbee> k thanks y'all..........see ya
[19:04] <_aaron_> hi all
[19:04] <HSarena> urlin2u : if i update it, it's gonna be ok?
[19:04] <urlin2u> HSarena, in the terminal run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade     accept any downloads with a y which is yes to get updated.
[19:04] <rumpe1> Dan18, none
[19:04] <milad_> i cant install ubuntu 11.04 on MBP 5,4 ,any suggestions?
[19:04] <alpha> sorry for reposting but I didn't get a reply earlier.Has anybody else experienced a total computer freeze with ubuntu 11.04??I've had it like 5 or 6 times in a week.
[19:04] <Dan18> hmm, its a bit of a mystery for me ...
[19:04] <EgyParadox> sweb: only configure VPN is shown under the applet?
[19:05] <Kingsy> has anyone here got RAID working on ubuntu?
[19:05] <HSarena> urlin2u : ok, thank you very much
[19:05] <SIFTU> alpha: what hardware?
[19:05] <Dan18> the new use clearly can not log into a working desktop with various folders and hidden configuration files missing -- while aparently gnome not requiring any files and folders to boot
[19:05] <rumpe1> Dan18, what exactly doesn't work?
[19:05] <urlin2u> HSarena, you have a good chance of unity working, getting updated may be all you need.
[19:05] <heat1> here you have
[19:05] <heat1> http://pastie.org/2381991
[19:05] <_aaron_> how do I configure my /etc/network/interfaces to specify a workgroup
[19:06] <qwebirc6025> Hi
[19:06] <qwebirc6025> Can anyone help me with a problem im having?
[19:06] <mang0> !ask | qwebirc6025
[19:07] <recon69_lap> hmm, must send canon hate mail regarding having deb packaged drivers that dont work :-(
[19:07] <rumpe1> Dan18, you could check $HOME/.xsession-errors for errors
[19:07] <llutz> heat1: and where did you add the line mentioned above?
[19:07] <Angelous> If I uninstall kubuntu and gnome will the os revert to just plain command line?
[19:07] <heat1> up route add -net 225.50.52.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.1.254 dev eth1
[19:07] <heat1> that
[19:07] <mang0> any free fps games for linux that have a good storyline in single player?
[19:07] <llutz> heat1: [21:03:27] <heat1> up route add -net 192.168.0.0/10 gw 192.168.1.1
[19:08] <alpha> SIFTU, intel core i7 2nd generation
[19:08] <milad_> any body knows how to install ubuntu 11.04 on MBP 5,4 (it simply freeze while booting)
[19:08] <michlemken-1> Kingsy, i installed RAID on debian years ago - just ensure not (!) to enable any BIOS option if you are not sure what you do - anything else google, please
[19:08] <alpha> SIFTU, 6 GB RAM
[19:08] <Angelous> If I uninstall kubuntu and gnome will the os revert to just plain command line?
[19:08] <SIFTU> alpha: knew you would say that.. laptop with optimus?
[19:08] <alpha> SIFTU, yes
[19:08] <martin_> how to turn of computer
[19:08] <SIFTU> alpha: have you had a linux distro not freeze
[19:08] <Blues003> People, I am having a problem. I am running a machine with Windows 7 32bit. I wanted to try out Ubuntu, so I put it on a USB Thumbdrive, ran from it, partitioned my HDD, and installed Ubuntu on the new partition.
[19:08] <Angelous> shutdown -h now
[19:09] <cyril__> Hello, I am a beginner writing bash scripts and I have a question about priviléges: I need my script to mount iso cdrom images and so requires root privileges to run, however then I want the script to launch a wine command but I don't want the wine program to have roots privileges (as it is a windows program...). How can I achieve this?
[19:09] <sweb> EgyParadox, http://image.beyluxe.com/pictures/9ad5086eaba9f693900ce4fbdd6a2a27.png
[19:09] <SIFTU> alpha: what laptop model?
[19:09] <Blues003> However, it will always boot on Windows and never give me the option to boot on Ubuntu.
[19:09] <heat1> That's the syntax that I found
[19:09] <Dan18> ok, will try to check the .xsession-errors
[19:09] <qwebirc6025> Okay, so last night I installed ubuntu and accidentally selected to install on my HDD rather than my external drive, I lost windows. So I need to know if there is a way for me to reinstall Windows, from linux, on a USB drive. (I have an ISO and extracted its contents to said USB drive, formatted it as NTFS as well)
[19:09] <martin_> acer 9999999
[19:09] <sweb> EgyParadox, im web developer and have skill im not new bie
[19:09] <alpha> SIFTU, dell xps 15 l502x,bought it just a week ago.
[19:10] <SIFTU> alpha: lol yeah I have the same.. I fixed mine with going to the kernel 3.0
[19:10] <qwebirc6025> The fedora people said it wasnt possible D:
[19:10] <alpha> SIFTU, tried suse 11.4 then switched to ubuntu
[19:10] <urlin2u> qwebirc6025, put a boot flag on the thumb and it should boot fro install
[19:10] <Vidalia> Is there a way to actually change your dual boot menu settings? or anything like it?
[19:10] <Lusitan[o]> im having the same problem. some lib's i tried to compile are overiding the synaptic installed. what should i read? or search to understand how this thing works? i dont understand the instalation tree info. any recomendeds to read?
[19:10] <SIFTU> alpha: it's a kernel problem
[19:10] <qwebirc6025> OMG
[19:10] <qwebirc6025> I feel so dumb
[19:10] <Blues003> People, a noob is having a problem. I am running a machine with Windows 7 32bit (Sony Vaio Laptop). I wanted to try out Ubuntu, so I put it on a USB Thumbdrive, ran from it, partitioned my HDD, and installed Ubuntu on the new partition. However, whenever I now boot the laptop, it always boots on Windows and never gives me the option to boot on Ubuntu.
[19:10] <qwebirc6025> I did this before
[19:10] <qwebirc6025> but changed it back XD
[19:10] <SIFTU> alpha: I have had a hang for weeks since 3.0
[19:10] <qwebirc6025> I can do this in GParted, correct?
[19:10] <SIFTU> alpha: havent I should say
[19:10] <alpha> SIFTU, is kernel upgradation the only solution?
[19:11] <hobbel> hey there, i want to revert to kernel 2.6.38-8 due to WiFi probs. and frequent systemfreeze's. Can someone point me towards a working how to / tell me how it can be done?
[19:11] <urlin2u> qwebirc6025, boot flag the thumb with gparted it should boot.
[19:11] <SIFTU> alpha: yes.. the hardware is too new and gets patched in later kernels
[19:11] <qwebirc6025> Cool
[19:11] <qwebirc6025> Thanks :)
[19:11] <sweb> EgyParadox, did you see pic ?
[19:11] <EgyParadox> sweb: try kill the applet and open it again
[19:11] <EgyParadox> yes
[19:11] <_aaron_> !dualboot | Blues003
[19:11] <alpha> SIFTU, okay
[19:11] <qwebirc6025> Lol
[19:11] <qwebirc6025> Fedora people are idiots :p
[19:11] <BartlomiejB> Blues003: it worked for me. I have similar configuration (Windows7, Vaio without CD/DVD etc.)
[19:11] <SIFTU> alpha: 3.0 is solid on the XPS
[19:11] <rww> qwebirc6025: be nice, please :P
[19:11] <Dan18> ok, no .xession-error file was created
[19:11] <qwebirc6025> Of  course :D
[19:12] <urlin2u> qwebirc6025, please don't say those things if you want help.
[19:12] <Dan18> within the $home directory of the new use
[19:12] <qwebirc6025> Im gonna go try it :)
[19:12] <sweb>  EgyParadox, for evey time i use vpn change ? how can i report that stupid bug ?
[19:12] <alpha> SIFTU, so how do i upgrade to kernel 3.0?
[19:12] <qwebirc6025> I was merely kidding :)
[19:12] <_aaron_> how do I configure my /etc/network/interfaces to specify a workgroup
[19:12] <SIFTU> alpha: not sure I dont run ubuntu :).. maybe a PPA somewhere
[19:12] <khtaam> Blues003, seems you did not install grub correctly, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[19:12] <EgyParadox> !bug
[19:12] <alpha> SIFTU, which distro do you run?
[19:13] <Blues003> khtaam, I just installed Ubuntu, not Grub. Was I supposed to install Grub as well ?
[19:13] <kingofswords> is there a gnome/gui version of unrar?
[19:13] <SIFTU> alpha: mainly Arch on the desktop
[19:13] <sweb> EgyParadox, which process name for netapplet ?
[19:13] <alpha> SIFTU, thinking of switching to debian or arch
[19:13] <EgyParadox> nm-applet
[19:13] <khtaam> Blues003, grub is the bootloader which allows you to select ubuntu or windows
[19:13] <alpha> SIFTU, cool
[19:13] <urlin2u> Blues003, what did you use to install with a pen drive or cd?
[19:13] <Blues003> PenDrive
[19:13] <khtaam> should be the last step while installing
[19:14] <Blues003> Khtaam, I just clicked "Install Ubuntu" and rebooted when prompted to.
[19:14] <Jordan_U> urlin2u: Just adding the boot flag to a partition does not make it bootable, and in qwebirc6025's case it will not be bootable.
[19:14] <urlin2u> Blues003, try booting with it plugged in grub is probably on it.
[19:14] <SIFTU> alpha: 3.0 still doesnt fix the SD card reader problem
[19:14] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, always works for me ntfs and extracted ISO.
[19:14] <Blues003> Also, Khtaam, it was a Ubuntu after Windows install, not the other way around.
[19:14] <alpha> SIFTU, oh :(
[19:15] <Blues003> Urlin2u, boot with the Drive in? And then what?
[19:15] <khtaam> Blues003, if i remember correctly the installer may select to install grub on pendrive
[19:15] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, try it.
[19:15] <SIFTU> alpha: but you know how to manually scan for SD's right?
[19:15] <khtaam> Blues003, same procedure should be able to fix your installation
[19:15] <alpha> SIFTU, yes
[19:15] <urlin2u> Blues003, see if you see the grub menu make dure the thumb is first to be read in the bios
[19:15] <Jordan_U> urlin2u: I don't see how that is possible without installing a bootloader in the partition's boot sector.
[19:15] <Blues003> khtaam, I installed it twice :\
[19:16] <Blues003> It is the first, urlin2u
[19:16] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, I would not suggest it if it does not work geeeeez
[19:16] <Ogi0n> is there a software out there that helps speed up file transfer betwee hdd ?
[19:16] <alpha> SIFTU, one more problem that i faced was that after installing nvidia card ,all the effects were gone
[19:16] <SIFTU> alpha: you know that optimus isnt supported on Linux right?
[19:16] <khtaam> Blues003, one of the last points you select the drive where to install grub, you may have selected the wrong one
[19:16] <kingofswords> is there a gnome/gui version of unrar?
[19:17] <alpha> SIFTU, yes
[19:17] <Blues003> doubt it khtaam. I've done it twice.
[19:17] <Blues003> Still I'll try it once again
[19:17] <SIFTU> alpha: you are stuck with the intel on chip GPU.. kernel 3.0 gives you about 3x performance for that.. you could also check out the bumblebee project
[19:17] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Blues003
[19:17] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, works on W7 I failed to ask gthe release is all.
[19:17] <alpha> SIFTU, okay
[19:18] <alpha> SIFTU, i found this on ubuntu wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops/Dell/XPS/15
[19:18] <SIFTU> alpha: https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee
[19:18] <Blues003> ubottu, I cannot boot from my hard drive to ubuntu in the first place
[19:18] <Jordan_U> urlin2u: I believe you ( I must be misunderstanding something, I don't work with Windows often) but this is offtopic. If qwebirc comes back we should move the discussion to ##windows.
[19:18] <alpha> SIFTU, thought of switching the card on or off but couldn't get the commands to work
[19:18] <urlin2u> Blues003, I am just trying to see if grub was put on the thumb rather theen the mbr of the HD, if you get the grub menu boot in and we can reload the mbr.
[19:19] <alpha> SIFTU, thanks,will check it out
[19:19] <SIFTU> alpha: you compiled the apci_call module?
[19:19] <trism> kingofswords: file-roller (Archive Manager) will use unrar if it is installed, so you can just right-click the .rar file and choose: Extract Here... (or Open in Archive Manager)
[19:19] <EgyParadox> swebs: Did it work?
[19:19] <alpha> SIFTU, no
[19:19] <Jordan_U> Blues003: Boot info script can be run from the Ubuntu LiveCD.
[19:19] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, no problem Ubuntu overwrote the Windows and they needed help loading the thumb from ubuntu.
[19:19] <SIFTU> alpha: you need that, and to load it with modprobe
[19:19] <Blues003> urlin2u, I got a program called DiskInternals and I could see Grub.cfg there
[19:20] <Blues003> as in, in my HDD and not the thumb drive
[19:20] <Blues003> also, Jordan_U, I used a Thumbdrive and not a CD.
[19:20] <kingofswords> trism, thx
[19:20] <SIFTU> alpha: http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.com/2010/07/using-acpicall-module-to-switch-onoff.html
[19:20] <urlin2u> Blues003, you can load grub using the thumb if it will boot to the desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[19:20] <kingofswords> ok so i cant gmount a dvd iso ...why not?
[19:20] <SIFTU> alpha: it wil give you much better battery life if you trun it off
[19:21] <Jordan_U> Blues003: You can run boot info script from any Ubuntu system, liveCD, liveUSB, or normal install. And there is a chance that trying to boot from the liveUSB again will actually boot the Ubuntu install from your hard drive.
[19:21] <alpha> SIFTU, oh thanks,didn't know that
[19:21] <Blues003> going to boot with the Drive anyway.
[19:22] <alpha> SIFTU, after installing ubuntu 2nd time , ididnt even install the nvidia card
[19:23] <SIFTU> alpha: you should blacklist the nvidia and Nouveau modules from loading
[19:23] <SIFTU> alpha: unless you install bumblebee
[19:23] <Kiwini> So my girlfriend just told me that for the past few days her launcher hasn't been hiding when she has programs in its little section on the left, anyone know how to fix this? Shes using 11.04
[19:24] <alpha> SIFTU, nouveau is already blacklisted
[19:24] <SIFTU> alpha: ok you should be fine then
[19:24] <SIFTU> alpha: kernel 3.0 is a big win for the XPS.. highly recommend you goto it
[19:24] <BluesKaj> alpha, you could try nomodeset in grub
[19:25] <kingofswords> ok so i cant gmount a dvd iso ...why not?
[19:25] <alpha> SIFTU, by the way, how does arch perform on your laptop?
[19:25] <SIFTU> alpha: I can play UrT with the intel at 1080p
[19:25] <iDirk> Someone know how to get dualscreen working with a Nvidia chipset?
[19:25] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | alpha
[19:25] <SIFTU> alpha: great as always.. but I run a very slim desktop too
[19:26] <urlin2u> Kiwini, the compiz config settings manager has a unty plugin in there are options for that launcher
[19:26] <alpha> SIFTU, tried nomodeset with opensuse,but  it made everything on the screen stretched.
[19:26] <kingofswords> ok so i cant gmount a dvd iso ...why not?
[19:26] <urlin2u> unity*
[19:26] <alpha> SIFTU, cool
[19:26] <recon69_lap> good news, got my printer working :-D
[19:27] <SIFTU> alpha: I havent played with framebuffer that much with the XPS due to all the other problem :)
[19:27] <Kiwini> urlin2u, Where abouts? I didn't see one for it when I looked in the settings.
[19:28] <recon69_lap> now for the wireless part :)
[19:28] <urlin2u> Kiwini, you need to install it look in synaptic with that name
[19:28] <ForSpareParts> Anybody have a moment to troubleshoot Natty video trouble with HD6000 series?
[19:28] <Kiwini> urlin2u, ah okay, thanks
[19:28] <alpha> SIFTU, oh alright
[19:28] <urlin2u> Kiwini, no problem.
[19:29] <alpha> SIFTU, by the way which desktop environment is in the screenshot?it's pretty nice i must add :)
[19:29] <SIFTU> alpha: I dont run a DE.. just the openbox WM
[19:30] <urlin2u> kingofswords, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountIso
[19:31] <kingofswords> urlin2u, i kniw how to mount...my point is it isnt
[19:31] <alpha> SIFTU, okay
[19:31] <rakathan> has anyone here worked with hostapd on Ubuntu?  I'm not sure how I should bridge the wireless interface with the wired
[19:31] <faz_>  SIFTU = ?
[19:32] <Blues003> PEople, I am on UBuntu loaded from the THumbdrive.
[19:32] <SIFTU> faz_: ?
[19:32] <urlin2u> kingofswords, should be strange can you right click and open with file manager
[19:32] <Blues003> typing sudo apt-get install grub-pc  got me Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done grub-pc is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [19:28] <@Phoenix_Silver> oki already installed
[19:33] <urlin2u> Blues003, when and where did you run that?
[19:33] <Blues003> I ran it on the CMD
[19:33] <Blues003> RIght now
[19:33] <Blues003> on Ubuntu running from the THumbdrive.
[19:33] <alpha> SIFTU, very helpful tips.
[19:33] <ForSpareParts> Can anybody help with Natty video trouble on HD6000 series? I'm at my wits' end...
[19:33] <urlin2u> Blues003, did you get to the install desktop or the live desktop?
[19:33] <kingofswords> urlin2u, yeh when i open with archive mounter it mounts but then folder is empty....archive manger shows files but unable to execute them
[19:33] <alpha> SIFTU, thanks
[19:34] <Jordan_U> Blues003: Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com .
[19:34] <SIFTU> alpha: np and good luck
[19:34] <urlin2u> kingofswords, did you check the md5sum, and what is it I missed it if you already said.
[19:34] <Blues003> urlin2u, did not understand your question. Jordan_U, the link you gave me demanded running Ubuntu from the hard drive.
[19:35] <Jordan_U> Blues003: No, it most certainly does not.
[19:35] <urlin2u> Blues003, Jordan_U is right about the bootscript.
[19:35] <rakathan> ForSpareParts, what card specifically are you using?
[19:35] <ForSpareParts> I think it's a 6850... let me check
[19:35] <Blues003> Jordan_U, will you give me the link again then? Booting up made me lose it.
[19:35] <kingofswords> urlin2u,  how do i check md5sum?
[19:35] <rakathan> ForSpareParts, and do you know what driver you're running?
[19:35] <urlin2u> Blues003, can be run from a live cd
[19:35] <kingofswords> its a torrent so dont know what original md5sum should be
[19:35] <webAnon> http://pastebin.com/cC8Ek6T5
[19:36] <ForSpareParts> rakathan, it's a 6870, and at the moment i'm on the open source driver
[19:36] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Blues003
[19:36] <webAnon> try to help
[19:36] <apn> ls
[19:36] <Blues003> THank you JOrdan_U.
[19:36] <Pici> !hashes | kingofswords
[19:36] <Jordan_U> Blues003: You're welcome.
[19:36] <ForSpareParts> but I can't install the proprietary drivers, because I literally can't get to my desktop.
[19:36] <rakathan> ForSpareParts, I don't think the open source driver supports the high-end AMD cards just yet...You may need to use the proprietary driver
[19:36] <RA_drc> hmmm
[19:36] <urlin2u> kingofswords, if it is a ubuntu download from a torrent the md5sums are on the ubuntu website. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[19:36] <kingofswords> urlin2u, thx but its not a ubuntu disc
[19:37] <urlin2u> kingofswords, what is it?
[19:37] <kingofswords> assassin creed brotherhood
[19:37] <Pici> !piracy | kingofswords
[19:37] <ForSpareParts> rakathan, I figured as much, and I'm fine with the proprietary driver, but right now I can't even get into my system.
[19:37] <RA_drc> !nickserv
[19:38] <rakathan> ForSpareParts, I've had tons of headaches with my own 4870 and drivers...I feel your pain...In the end it was easiest for me to just reinstall the system
[19:38] <rakathan> ForSpareParts I'm guessing you hit a black screen when you try to boot
[19:38] <ForSpareParts> rakathan, yeah, that's the trouble -- I'm on my... third clean reinstall, I think?
[19:38] <henkhenk> hello to all, from the netherlands
[19:39] <Blues003> Jordan_U, right at the first step I get bash: /home/ubuntu/Desktop/boot_info_script*.sh: No such file or directory
[19:39] <rakathan> ForSpareParts, do you get any video from a clean install? You may need to boot into recovery mode and install fglrx from the command line
[19:39] <ForSpareParts> rakathan Not quite. Grub is fine, I see the ubuntu splash, then when my desktop should pop up I get either a quick flashing screen or a weird color.
[19:39] <ForSpareParts> rakathan how do I do that from GRUB?
[19:40] <Jordan_U> Blues003: sudo bash ~/Downloads/boot_info_script*.sh
[19:40] <rakathan> ForSpareParts you should see an option just below the regular boot mode that has (recovery mode) next to it
[19:40] <cutiyar> hi , what that mean ? http://postimage.org/image/2uv0tf0x0/
[19:40] <ForSpareParts> rakathan thanks!
[19:40] <Blues003> Jordan_U: bash: /home/ubuntu/Downloads/boot_info_script*.sh: No such file or directory
[19:40] <rakathan> ForSpareParts good luck, hope it works out
[19:40] <ForSpareParts> rakathan also, how do I upgrade an installed driver
[19:41] <urlin2u> Blues003, folow this for the text file to be in home. http://paste.ubuntu.com/667622/
[19:41] <rakathan> ForSpareParts you can try the regular sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:41] <cutiyar> hi , what that mean ? http://postimage.org/image/2uv0tf0x0/
[19:41] <ForSpareParts> rakathan I did have a working setup for a time, but tried to install the newest version from AMD and everything was ruined when I uninstalled the old driver
[19:42] <Jordan_U> Blues003: Did you download the script from http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/ ?
[19:42] <_Neytiri_> i am having a issue with the VM system in ubuntu i am running 11.4 64 bit with 16 gigs of ram and 4 cpu's and 4 gbic network cards on a sun fire x4200 M2 box. i am getting a error when i try and create a virtural machine useing the Virtual Machine Manager the error is: Unable to complete install: ''NoneType' object has no attribute' virtual_device_type''. any idea how i can fix this
[19:42] <Blues003> Jordan_U, I did.
[19:42] <ForSpareParts> rakathan thanks again
[19:42] <Blues003> was I supposed to do anything with it ?
[19:42] <rakathan> ForSpareParts I've had similar experiences...what ended up working for me was this: Install Ubuntu, do all the updates you possibly can without touching the video drivers, install the AMD drivers from their site WITHOUT catalyst control center
[19:43] <Blues003> urlin2u, done that.
[19:43] <Blues003> want the results.txt?
[19:43] <SIFTU> _Neytiri_: what hypervisor?
[19:43] <urlin2u> Blues003, if you dfollow my link you will be set it is a wget
[19:43] <Jordan_U> Blues003: Can you pastebin the output of "ls ~/Downloads"?
[19:43] <_Neytiri_> libvert
[19:43] <ForSpareParts> rakathan thank you! I'll give that a shot.
[19:43] <furulante> hola
[19:43] <Blues003> urlin2u, I just got results via your method.
[19:43] <Blues003> JOdan_U, will do
[19:44] <SIFTU> _Neytiri_: that is not a hypervisor it's an API to a hypervisor
[19:44] <urlin2u> Blues003, copy and paste all the text to this site save and post the http address.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: what virtualization software are you using?
[19:45] <_Neytiri_> qmenu maybe?
[19:45] <_Neytiri_> its what ever came with ubuntu
[19:45] <Jordan_U> Blues003: I don't need the output of "ls ~/Downloads" since you've now successfully run the script.
[19:45] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, is your best help on this I am quite familiar but just wanted to get you there.
[19:45] <SIFTU> _Neytiri_: kvm is built into the kernel
[19:45] <Blues003> Urlin2u, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/667625/
[19:45] <_Neytiri_> then it might be kvm
[19:45] <furulante> alguien que hable español?
[19:46] <Kingsy> how do I become root in ubuntu terminal?
[19:46] <SIFTU> _Neytiri_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[19:46] <Blues003> Urlin2u, I just did something
[19:46] <urlin2u> Blues003, what?
[19:46] <Blues003> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ grub enter The program 'grub' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install grub
[19:46] <Blues003> I installed it
[19:47] <Blues003> maybe that did the difference ?
[19:47] <Jordan_U> Kingsy: Just use "sudo some_command" to run some_command as root.
[19:47] <urlin2u> Blues003, no correct are you on the live cd?
[19:47] <urlin2u> not
[19:47] <Blues003> THumbdrive
[19:47] <Blues003> USB Key :P
[19:47] <Blues003> not a CD.
[19:47] <Jordan_U> Blues003: You should not have done that (though it hasn't done any harm).
[19:47] <Blues003> I just did that right after I sent you that pastebin,
[19:48] <Blues003> Ok. Sorry.
[19:48] <Jemt> I can't seem to get Gnome to accept a custom protocol handler. I created it like this:
[19:48] <Jemt> gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/ --type string --set /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/woox/command "/opt/woox/launch %s" $
[19:48] <Jemt> gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/ --type bool --set /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/woox/enabled true
[19:48] <Jemt> When I enter e.g. woox://Test in the "run" dialog, I get this error: "The specified location is not supported". I'm running Ubuntu 11.04. It worked fine on 10.10.
[19:48] <FloodBot1> Jemt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:48] <oCean> _Neytiri_: a google search hits (debian bug 566847) - in virt-manager 0.8.2, what is your ubuntu version?
[19:49] <urlin2u> Blues003, same thing follow I will give you two commands to run fro the terminal let me know when ready.
[19:49] <Blues003> I am ready
[19:49] <urlin2u> sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt
[19:49] <urlin2u> blues run that one
[19:50] <urlin2u> Blues003, that one first
[19:50] <Blues003> done
[19:50] <EM03> on 10.04 lts when i install apache i goto the ip and its not connecting its just sitting there
[19:50] <_Neytiri_> oCean, its 11.4
[19:50] <urlin2u> Blues003, you have natty right?
[19:50] <EM03> on 11.04 and every other release  I don't think this happened
[19:50] <EM03> its supposed to bind to every available ip correct?
[19:50] <Blues003> urlin2u, I do not know what is natty ;_;
[19:50] <Blues003> SOrry for my noobishness.
[19:51] <Firefishe> I just upgraded to 10.10 from 10.04 and have no networking whatsoever.  My wireless card is an Intell WiFi 5100AGN, but even my ethernet adapter isn't being recognized.
[19:51] <urlin2u> Blues003, the latest release 11.04
[19:51] <Blues003> urlin2u, yes.
[19:51] <Blues003> I do
[19:51] <gskelling> unity showed up on the liveCD, and on a previous install of 11.04, but after installing ubuntu this time it said "Your hardware does not support it"
[19:51] <urlin2u> sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda
[19:51] <oCean> _Neytiri_: strange, since the mentioned bug says it's fixed. (virt-manager is 0.8.6 in 11.04)
[19:51] <carl_> lu
[19:51] <gskelling> when it clearly does... since it worked on the livecd just minutes ago
[19:51] <urlin2u> Blues003, that next then reboot to the grub menu boot to ubuntu.
[19:52] <Blues003> so it should work now ?
[19:52] <_Neytiri_> i also canet seem to get any network interfaces to show up
[19:52] <EM03> anyone?
[19:52] <urlin2u> Blues003, should you have loaded grub to the mbr run no more commands reboot to ubuntu.
[19:53] <SIFTU> _Neytiri_: I would think you have to setup the hypervisor before you can use libvirt, which is why I gave you that link
[19:53] <SIFTU> _Neytiri_: is this for a server environment?
[19:53] <urlin2u> Blues003, reboot to the install.
[19:54] <Jordan_U> urlin2u: Blues003 will need to re-install the "grub-pc" package before running grub-install since he installed the "grub" package earlier (which installs grub-legacy and removes grub2).
[19:54] <gskelling> unity showed up on the liveCD, and on a previous install of 11.04, but after installing ubuntu this time it said "Your hardware does not support it"
[19:54] <_Neytiri_> yes
[19:55] <_Neytiri_> and the hypervisor is installed i installed it during instulation
[19:55] <Blues0003> urlin2u, should I try rebooting without the thumbdrive? is that it ?
[19:55] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, I don't see any grub-legacy in the script.
[19:55] <Blues0003> OR did I misunderstand ?
[19:56] <BartlomiejB> does anyone uses mutt? mutt doesn't remove temporary file after viewing attachment in external program.
[19:56] <domedagen> Help please I followed this guide: http://blog.greweb.fr/2011/01/how-to-make-dlink-dwa-140-perfectly-work-on-linux/
[19:56] <Jordan_U> urlin2u: It only installs / removes the packages (in the live environment).
[19:56] <dr_willis> gskelling,  you most likelyu need to set up the proper 3d video card drivers.
[19:57] <Blues0003> urlin2u, going to try rebooting without the THUmbdrive. I'll be back in a bit.
[19:57] <SIFTU> _Neytiri_: it maybe installed (becuase KVM is part of the kernel) but is it configured? i.e. Bridged networking etc
[19:57] <gskelling> dr_willis, but it was working on the livecd. shouldn't that have the same drivers?
[19:57] <domedagen> I made it to step 5 but it says: "Could not set interface wlan0 flags: No such file or directory"
[19:57] <Jordan_U> urlin2u: Though I would have expected Blues to get an error about --boot-directory being an invalid option as that is new in grub2.
[19:57] <domedagen> What could it be?
[19:57] <dr_willis> gskellig,  its not working now.. and that error messge is common for when the video drives are not correctly setup.. so it dosent matter. whats your video chipset?
[19:58] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, not sur I follow a fresh install, and a attempt to install grub-pc.
[19:58] <gskelling> dr_willis, this laptop actually has two graphics cards, a Geforce G210M and an intel integrated one
[19:59] <henkhenk> bye
[19:59] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, if they were in the actual install desktop which it seemed not the commands were wrong.
[19:59] <dr_willis> gskellig,  eww.. one of those... :)   You may want to check the forums/askubuntu for exact laptop make/model. theres some ppa's with tools for that special setup. but ive never used them. I would guess the system is confused as to what card is being used.
[19:59] <_Neytiri_> SIFTU, thats what i have been trying to do as well i tried Using a macvtap "direct" connection and that didn't work
[19:59] <chris_> how come with ubuntu when you mount a drive in the Places menu it mounts but you the user that did it don't have permission to touch anything??
[19:59] <Jordan_U> urlin2u: From earlier in the conversation: 12:46 < Blues003> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ grub enter The program 'grub' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install grub    I installed it.
[19:59] <_Neytiri_> so i am trying a bridged connection ow
[20:00] <dr_willis> kingsley,  whats the filesystem on the  drive?
[20:00] <Kingsy> dr_willis: ext4
[20:00] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, so they were in the install desktop?
[20:00] <gskelling> dr_willis, either way, both graphics cards are powerful enough for unity, AND are in unitys official "supported graphics cards" list
[20:00] <SIFTU> _Neytiri_: you went through all this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking
[20:00] <gskelling> but thanks for the tip
[20:01] <SIFTU> gskelling: blacklist the nvidia drivers
[20:01] <Firefishe> Let's say I download the current driver for my Intel 5100AGN wireless card for my laptop.  Where would I put the *.tgz file (or it's contents)?
[20:01] <Jordan_U> urlin2u: No. You can use apt-get from a Live environment (all changes of course happen in RAM and go away when you shut down the computer).
[20:01] <gskelling> SIFTU, so what if i want to use the nvidia graphics card?
[20:01] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  thats why then.. permissions are stored on the filesystem. dosent matter who mounts it.. if file foobar is owned by 'bob' it will always be owned by user bob.  (or bob'x uid when the file was made)
[20:01] <BLues003> urlin2u, it still booted directly to WIndows 7
[20:02] <Kingsy> dr_willis: umm not sure I understand sorry.. so I have a drive, and I cant mount it and add a file to it on my own system?
[20:02] <dr_willis> gskelling,  coul dbe its using the intel card, but trying the nvidia drivers.. or visa versa.. so its confused and defaulting back to a lower driver.  I dont use such devices. so cant say much more,.
[20:02] <_Neytiri_> yes
[20:02] <SIFTU> gskelling: you can not in linux.. Nvidia does not support optimus
[20:02] <dimpy> Hey guys I am about to purchase a VPS and would like to setup a VPN, so that i can connect to it whereveer i am and tunnel my traffic through it.  I was wondering whats the most supported vpn solution, easy to configure, etc that works across platform, linux and windows? (The VPS server will be ubuntu server).. I was thinking OpenVPN, any thoughts?
[20:02] <urlin2u> BLues003, follow Jordan_U then the script looked correct to me for a grub to the mbr, from a live cd
[20:02] <SIFTU> gskelling: if you really wanted to you could try the bumblebee project
[20:02] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  time to read up on file system permissions...  you set the proper permissions.. you can do what ever you want.
[20:02] <david__> hi
[20:02] <gskelling> SIFTU, i dont want optimus I just want the nvidia one all the time =\
[20:03] <abedra> Does one need to obtain the kernel source to recompile the Natty kernel if all he wants to do is change the options?
[20:03] <Kingsy> dr_willis: I don't see how I am setting any permissions. I am just mounting it
[20:03] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  if you lock your front door.. its locked.. :) its your door.. but its still locked. same logic..  you unlock it as you need, or set it up
[20:03] <david__> lol l8r
[20:03] <BLues003> JOrdan_U, any ideas? :\
[20:03] <abedra> basically i need to just compile a kernel without firewire support
[20:03] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  permissions are STORED ON the FILESYSTEM.. for ext2/3/4 (and others) so its using the permissions the files are set to...
[20:03] <SIFTU> gskelling: yes but the technology behind it is optimus.. the nvidia gpu's output goes through the intel gpu
[20:03] <dr_willis> !permissions | kingsy
[20:03] <Kingsy> dr_willis: oh ok .. so how would you go about "unlocking" the drive?
[20:04] <Jordan_U> urlin2u: The only way that I can explain multiple oddities in what BLues has said (and not said, like not stating that the grub-install command gave him an error) is that blues did not in fact follow your directions and never ran grub-install. There may be another explanation of course.
[20:04] <gskelling> I thought Optimus was just the windows drivers/software for switching cards?
[20:04] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  depends on the details..   where did this disk come from? you moving it from one machine to another? you got several users accessing it?
[20:04] <kingofswords> james@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo mount -o loop ass.iso /media/example  mounts my iso...but how do i amend this to include filepath from windows partition..../media/6A0CA92E0CA8F5EB/Documents and Settings/james.JAMES-0200CAEF2/Desktop/?
[20:04] <SIFTU> gskelling: no, they work together
[20:04] <gskelling> this laptop didn't come with optimus, its a bit older and came with a software (on windows) called Power4Gear
[20:04] <gskelling> theres nothing about optimus mentioned anywher
[20:04] <gskelling> e
[20:04] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  short answer is you use chown/chmod to set the permissions you want.
[20:04] <gskelling> interesting
[20:04] <gskelling> thanks for the info
[20:05] <BLues003> urlin2u, thanks anyway
[20:05] <Kingsy> dr_willis: no, its just going to be me accessing it, and no its a fresh drive that I formatted when I installed ubuntu
[20:05] <SIFTU> gskelling: there are a few laptop which allow discrete GPU's like the lenovo T520.. you could check in your bios
[20:05] <BLues003> I hope I can figure this out eventually
[20:05] <gskelling> so both graphics cards are actually working at the same time?
[20:05] <Kingsy> dr_willis: what I mean is, does that mean everytime I want to mount and use the drive I need to chown and chmod ?
[20:05] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, yeah we never know I suspect it was the install desktop, the it is just grub-install /dev/sda.... but you know all this better than me I'm sure. ;-)
[20:05] <SIFTU> gskelling: yes.. basicially.. but linux can get to the nvidia GPU direct
[20:05] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  if you want user 'bob' to have FULL access to the drive. you mount it.. then chown the mountpoint to be owned by user bob and group bob. ie:    sudo chown bob:bob /media/thedrivemountpoint
[20:06] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  permissions are STORED ON the FILESYSTEM.. for ext2/3/4 (and others) ..................   so No...
[20:06] <dimpy> anyone?
[20:06] <Kingsy> oh I see, so I only need to do this once
[20:06] <Kingsy> dr_willis: thanks, you explained that great, I understand now
[20:06] <Kingsy> :)
[20:06] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  if you move it to a differnt linux box.. then you may have to  change them
[20:06] <Kingsy> got ya
[20:06] <Jordan_U> urlin2u: I need to leave, but your instructions looked correct. Try having BLues follow them again, but this time have him pastebin the output of each command and re-run boot info script after he is done (making sure he pastebins the most recent of multiple RESULTS.txt files).
[20:07] <Kingsy> dr_willis: just out of curiousity.. where in the filesystem does it store this information?
[20:07] <dr_willis> Kingsy,   you shoudl read up on the permissions guide/tutorials - its a core concept you should try to understand .
[20:07] <Pici> dimpy: openvpn is a good standard, if its just for yourself, ssh tunneling might work as well.
[20:07] <dr_willis> its part of the file.
[20:07] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, no problem that is the I generally roll thanks.
[20:07] <dimpy> Thanks
[20:07] <urlin2u> way*
[20:07] <urlin2u> BLues003, so when you boot the thumb you get a grub menu?
[20:07] <SIFTU> dimpy: openvpn actually isnt a standard.. but it works and has clients on all platforms
[20:08] <kingofswords> how do i determine thepath for a file on windows parition?? does its start with /dev/hda1 ?
[20:08] <Kiwini> Oh yeah, urlin2u, that didn't fix the problem with Unity, but apparently its a known bug with QT programs
[20:08] <Medjai> Anyone here know how to limit what commands a user can issue?
[20:08] <SIFTU> dimpy: standards are IPSEC etc, but are much harder to setup
[20:08] <albo_> Hi Folks.  Anyone availble for a question about installing Ubuntu Server 11.04 on an old Toshiba laptop?  Having a problem running any graphics (eg Unity, Gnome, etc).  Getting "can't open display" errors.
[20:08] <urlin2u> Kiwini, thanks for letting us know.
[20:08] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  would start with the mountpoint of the windows filessystem.. not /dev/XXXX
[20:08] <BLues003> urlin2u, when I boot with the thumb I get a Menu with various options. ONe of them is "boot from the USB Key"
[20:08] <BLues003> and a white ubuntu symbol behind
[20:08] <SIFTU> Medjai: put them in a chroot?
[20:08] <Kingsy> dr_willis: also, how come when you mount the drive it mounts to a crazy folder.. like /media/93082309-340234bdsbf  <--- not exactly that but you get the idea
[20:08] <kingofswords> dr_willis, i dont understand?
[20:09] <kingofswords> what is the mount point?
[20:09] <Pici> SIFTU: I worded my sentence oddly, I didn't mean it like that. :)
[20:09] <urlin2u> BLues003, okay lets boot the thumb to the live desktop again and get a new boot script.
[20:09] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  thats the UUID of the device.. you an set a label for it via the tune2fs command it will use that instead.
[20:09] <dimpy> SIFTU: Ok, I am looking for something lightweight, simple to use/setup/maintain, but secure.. ?
[20:09] <dr_willis> !mount | kingofswords
[20:09] <Kingsy> dr_willis: got ya.. thanks
[20:09] <SIFTU> Pici: no problem, sorry to correct
[20:09] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  like /media/windowsdrive/
[20:09] <Medjai> could you be more specific I'm very new to linux privleges SIFTU
[20:09] <_Neytiri_> SIFTU, i am getting this error in my syslog after restarting networking and then restarting libvert-bin
[20:09] <_Neytiri_> libvirtd: 13:08:14.322: 28299: error : virNetworkDefParseXML:655 : internal error Forwarding requested, but no IP address provided
[20:10] <kingofswords> ..../media/6A0CA92E0CA8F5EB/Documents and Settings/james.JAMES-0200CAEF2/Desktop/ac.iso is what pathi have but something is missing
[20:10] <Pici> SIFTU: No, you were right.
[20:10] <Kingsy> dr_willis: how come I cant change the label in "disk utility" ?
[20:10] <guntbert> !permissions | Medjai
[20:10] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  when using paths with spaces you normally escape the space, or use quotes  '/media/foo/path with spaces'
[20:11] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  try it and see.. i use the cli tools... :)
[20:11] <SIFTU> Medjai: ok if you are new you probably dont want to setup a chroot
[20:11] <kingofswords> dr_willis, ahhhh
[20:11] <kingofswords> dr_willis, do i just ommit the spaces?
[20:11] <jiltdil> kingsy: tune2fs  -l  labelname  /dev/sdaX
[20:12] <WaltherFI> Printing problems: "Printing service not available" and cannot restart cupsd due to cupsd: symbol lookup error: cupsd: undefined symbol: _pwgGetPageSize
[20:12] <guntbert> kingofswords: no, read what he said
[20:12] <kingofswords> dr_willis,  i dont know aht u mean escape them?
[20:12] <SIFTU> Medjai: you could create a new group, add users to it, modify the group ownership of the binaries to exclude them
[20:12] <Kingsy> jiltdil: hmm this is a little more complex cos its in /dev/mapper/
[20:12] <kingofswords> dr_willis, you mean put quotes either side of the path
[20:13] <Medjai> right
[20:13] <Kingsy> cos its raid
[20:13] <Medjai> so use a chgrp?
[20:13] <jiltdil> kingsy; no matter just give the ffull lv path or luks device path
[20:13] <dr_willis> kingofswords,   time to check out some linux tutorals on command line ussage,    like http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/weirdchars.html   (first google hit for linux spaces filename )
[20:13] <sobersabre> hi guys.
[20:13] <jiltdil> kingsy: whatever your device is
[20:13] <SIFTU> Medjai: yeah but bee carefull, you probably want all users in the new group
[20:14] <sobersabre> problem: we've got a calendar of some application. I can export it as .ics, periodically.
[20:14] <albo_> how can i see if i have the right drivers installed for my integrated intel 852GM video chipset?
[20:14] <BLues003_> urlin2u, I am on UBuntu running from the USB thumbdrive. HOwever, I will be having dinner now. I will be back soon ok?
[20:14] <sobersabre> I want to merge it into the google calendar.
[20:14] <sobersabre> not manually, programmatically. or if it's a ready to use app, so that it does it.
[20:14] <jiltdil> kingsy; is ur device is encrypted or of lv?
[20:14] <EM03> why in the world is in 10.04 my apache server not accessible?
[20:14] <guntbert> kingofswords: just a hint instead of     /Documents and Settings     you use /Documents\ and\ Settings    or (better) '/Documents and Settings'
[20:15] <urlin2u> BLues003, no problem. ;-)
[20:15] <EM03> doesn't apache by default in ubuntu bind to all ip's ?
[20:15] <Kingsy> jiltdil: naa its not encrypted..
[20:15] <Kingsy> just finding it now
[20:15] <bswift> I have a preseed file that works with the alternate install, but now I'm trying to get it working with the "normal" desktop ISO - but no luck. In syslog I see that my preseed file is read, but I'm still being prompted in the Graphical Installer. Any ideas?
[20:15] <none_this_is_a_t> hello everyone
[20:15] <jiltdil> kingsy: it means it is lv
[20:15] <Kingsy> jiltdil: however I don't think that syntax for tune2fs was correct I got a cmd list after I entered
[20:16] <guntbert> none_this_is_a_t:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:16] <kingofswords> guntbert,  if i change name of documents and setting will it have reprocussions on whatever is installed under that file?
[20:16] <jiltdil> kingsy: perhabs capital l just check man page
[20:16] <bswift> To clarify, is there a difference in how preseed files are used in the alternate install and in the "normal" desktop install?
[20:16] <Kingsy> np
[20:16] <sobersabre> there are several scenarios in this merge.... and I hope there is some kind of tool to do this.
[20:16] <sobersabre> any ideas ?
[20:17] <Guest12179> Thunar shows "Network" folder and it does browse the network on my gentoo machine but does not show "Network" folder on my ubuntu machine and they are the same versions
[20:17] <guntbert> kingofswords: nobody said you should rename that directory, you just have to use it accordingly on linux
[20:17] <kingofswords> ok thx
[20:17] <dr_willis> Kingsy,  also changing a fs label may not take effect till the system reboots or theres some command to force a rescan. but the fs has to get unmounted i belive..
[20:18] <WaltherFI> Printing problems: "Printing service not available" and cannot restart cupsd due to cupsd: symbol lookup error: cupsd: undefined symbol: _pwgGetPageSize
[20:18] <dr_willis> $ cat File\ With\ Spaces.txt                   <------------------ kingofswords     the \   escapes the space.
[20:18] <neumaennl> UUID=6438-2C16	/media/DATEN	vfat	defaults	0	0 in /etc/fstab mounts the partition so that only root can write to it. How can I mount it so that every user can write to it?
[20:18] <kingofswords> dr_willis, i dont what this means
[20:19] <kingofswords> im at the end of my tether now been doing this since last night
[20:19] <dr_willis> neumaennl,  several ways.. mount docs mention them in detail   --   use 'uid=YOURUID' 'gid=yourgid'  as an option is one way. or set a umask
[20:19] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  whats not to understand   you confert spaces in the path to '\ '  (slash space)  so they get seen properly.. OR you use quotes as needed...
[20:20] <neumaennl> dr_willis: thx
[20:20] <kingofswords> quotes didnt work
[20:20] <dr_willis> i would guess you did them wrong kingofswords
[20:20] <dr_willis> paste the exact command line you used.
[20:20] <kingofswords> i change file name now i cant unmount windows or mount iso
[20:21] <WaltherFI> Printing problems: "Printing service not available" and cannot restart cupsd due to cupsd: symbol lookup error: cupsd: undefined symbol: _pwgGetPageSize
[20:21] <dr_willis> I would have just moved it to the root of the windows drive. :)
[20:21] <kingofswords> james@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -o loop /media/6A0CA92E0CA8F5EB/Documents/james.JAMES-0200CAEF2/Desktop/ac.iso example.iso /media/example
[20:21] <Thaper> Thunar shows the "Network" folder and it does browse the network on my gentoo machine but does not show "Network" folder on my ubuntu machine and they are the same versions!
[20:22] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  you reanamed 'documents and settings' to be 'documents' ?
[20:22] <kingofswords> yeh
[20:22] <WallyJ2K> Running Ubuntu 11.04 on a laptop. External onitor output shows "Invalid Format" on my LG TV. I think it's the refresh rate, but not sure.
[20:22] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  that most likely broke windows to some degree....
[20:22] <kingofswords> lol
[20:22] <dr_willis> all you needed to do was -->>>>>    <guntbert> kingofswords: just a hint instead of     /Documents and Settings     you use /Documents\ and\ Settings
[20:23] <dr_willis> i suggest renameing it back
[20:23] <kingofswords> well im not too far from chucking laptop out window then going outside and stamping on
[20:23] <Kingsy> is it normal for file transfers from a ntfs drive to a ext4 drive to be slow? I mean 2.5 mb sec over a SATA cable is SLOW
[20:24] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  You have taken somthoing rather trivial and made it too complex. :)
[20:24] <Gentoo64> Kingsy, not its not nornal
[20:24] <dr_willis> kingsley,  is this a external usb hd?
[20:24] <WallyJ2K> Am I right in understanding that the xorg.conf is not installed by default in 11.04?
[20:24] <kingofswords> dr_willis, thats why its so frustrating
[20:24] <KomiaPoi1a> hi
[20:24] <Kingsy> dr_willis: no, both internal, but one of the drives is RAID
[20:25] <kingofswords> ive been doing this since last night
[20:25] <Kingsy> apart from that.. nothing special
[20:25] <KomiaPoi1a> does ubuntu have read-write capability with ntfs-3g package installed?
[20:25] <MasterRoot> Hello all, I have recently upgraded my installation of webmin from 1.550 to 1.560 on a few of my servers. Now, all of a sudden I no linger need to enter my apssword when I run commands with sudo. any ideas as to why this might be? I have compared /etc/sudoers between an affected and unaffected Ubuntu machine, and they both look the same.
[20:25] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  all ive been 'teaching' you are linux fundamentals. :)      Im big on linux FUNdamentals.
[20:26] <eyeforaneye> hello, i spilled water on my laptop's keyboard and now some keys have stopped working. Any solutions/ideas on how to fix it?
[20:26] <dr_willis> eyeforaneye,  you did dry it out very good?
[20:27] <BartlomiejB> eyeforaneye: excuse me, but how is it related to ubuntu?
[20:27] <eyeforaneye> it's not related, i dunno where else to ask sorry!
[20:27] <guntbert> eyeforaneye: try ##hardware
[20:27] <Pici> MasterRoot: We do not support webmin installs here.
[20:27] <Pleiadeez> anyone good with VNC? I've got a question
[20:27] <eyeforaneye> thank you
[20:27] <dr_willis> Pleiadeez,  just ask the question and see. :)
[20:28] <Pleiadeez> My home computer is at the login screen, so I can't VNC in. Is there anyway to remotely log in so I can VNC in? I have SSH access
[20:28] <Kingsy> ohhhhhh nm I think I know why
[20:28] <kingofswords> do - need to be ommitted from path name?
[20:28] <dr_willis> eyeforaneye,  it may start working after it drys well.. be glad it wasent soda..
[20:28] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  paste the exact command.. not sure what you mean...
[20:28] <DWzone> Hi
[20:29] <eyeforaneye> dr_willis: haha, yeah well it wasn't me who spilled it so i'm not really glad it happened :p
[20:29] <dr_willis> Pleiadeez,  vnc is a multi-tool. you are NOT limited to the vnc service built into gnome.   You can install a vncserver, ssh in, start it.. then vncclient connmect to the box..
[20:29] <dr_willis> Pleiadeez,  that will NOT display anything on the 'remote boxs' display. it willbe a totally hidden vnc session.
[20:29] <eyeforaneye> dr_willis: And yes it happened a few days ago, i dryed it quite well
[20:29] <Pleiadeez> ooo
[20:29] <DWzone> ssh behind rooter ?
[20:29] <kingofswords> james@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -o loop /media/6A0CA92E0CA8F5EB/Documents/james.JAMES-0200CAEF2/Desktop/ac.iso example.iso /media/example
[20:29] <dr_willis> Pleiadeez,  this is on a local lan or over the internetz?
[20:30] <Pleiadeez> thanks dr_willis, I'll look into that. I think I can figure it out
[20:30] <MasterRoot> Pici: Ok, but can I not establish that my Ubuntu installation is not where the problem lies first, before we arrive at the conclusion/presumption that it's webmin?
[20:30] <Pleiadeez> over the net, but I already have my ports opened. I can find my way from here
[20:30] <guntbert> kingofswords: ac.iso example.iso     are those 2 files?
[20:30] <dr_willis> Pleiadeez,  if you want the local desktop showm you can set up gdm to autologin and the gnome vnc server to auto-startup/allow all connections. ut that may be a bit slower then a stand alone vnc server.
[20:30] <Pleiadeez> just needed the idea to get me started
[20:30] <kingofswords> dr_willis, /media/6A0CA92E0CA8F5EB/Documents\and\Settings/james.JAMES-0200CAEF2/Desktop/ac.iso example.iso: No such file or directory
[20:31] <Pleiadeez> dr_willis, that's what I did, but for some reason autologin broke recently, which is why I asked my question :)
[20:31] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  use the tab key as needed to complete proper spelling/case of all files in the path.. AND you used \   not '\ '  slash SPACE....
[20:31] <Pici> MasterRoot: Try running sudo -k first and then trying to use sudo.
[20:31] <kingofswords> guntbert,  ac.iso is file on windows parition....example is foler i want the image to be displayed
[20:31] <dr_willis>  kingofswords  you could just copy the iso to your home dir....  or cd to where its at.. and not need to use such a long path...
[20:32] <MasterRoot> Pici: after running sudo -K, I am prompted for my password as usual when running sudo commands, but only for that session.
[20:32] <MasterRoot> if i logout and log back in, I have to sudo -K again
[20:32] <Gentoo64> MasterRoot, you want no timeout?
[20:32] <Pici> Gentoo64: No, his install has suddenly started to not timeout.
[20:33] <kingofswords> dr_willis,  i copied it to desktop and it mounted fine...but as i have run out of space need to mount it from windows
[20:33] <Gentoo64> oh ok
[20:33] <dr_willis>  kingofswords  --->  cd to where its at.. and not need to use such a long path...
[20:33] <guntbert> kingofswords: and what is then /media/example ?
[20:33] <kingofswords> dr_willis,  ill cd it
[20:33] <MasterRoot> Gentoo64: no, not really, I just want the default behaviour of prompting for pass at first run, then timeout after the default time
[20:34] <Gentoo64> MasterRoot, try editing visudo timeout
[20:34] <Gentoo64> not sure why its doing it in the first place
[20:35] <MasterRoot> Gentoo64: is that set in /etc/sudoers ?
[20:35] <Gentoo64> MasterRoot, run visudo
[20:35] <Gentoo64> then put this line at bottom of the file-   Defaults:username timestamp_timeout=5
[20:36] <Gentoo64> you can set it  to what you like, e.g 0 you need password every time
[20:37] <BLues003_> urlin2u, I am back
[20:37] <BLues003_> on a clean Ubuntu sesseion
[20:37] <MasterRoot> Gentoo64: Ok, but I don't have such a setting in visudo on an unaffected Ubuntu system, so I'm not sure that's the problem. Would you agree?
[20:37] <Gentoo64> MasterRoot, what setting do you mean?
[20:38] <MasterRoot> Gentoo64: the timeout
[20:38] <Gentoo64> MasterRoot, you need to add that line yourself
[20:38] <BLues003_> Jordan_U, any ideas for my problem ?
[20:39] <zalg> anyone specialise in web app dev/hosting? pm me.
[20:39] <Pici> MasterRoot: Make sure to look in /etc/sudoers.d/ as well.
[20:39] <Pici> zalg: try ##web
[20:39] <zalg> Pici, thanks :D
[20:40] <MasterRoot> Gentoo64: I know, but I don't have a timeout set on one of my Ubuntu systems that is not demonstrating the reported behaviour, so I'm not following why I need on the system what are affected...? sorry
[20:40] <Gentoo64> MasterRoot, i have no idea why sudo isnt working properly for you. just saying see if the timeout line works
[20:41] <WallyJ2K> Anyone in here good with setting up Display preferences in xorg.conf?
[20:41] <WallyJ2K> I need to setup my laptop VGA output to work on my TV
[20:41] <Guest99887> evening all - seem to have a problem-posted to ubunuforums but dont seem to be getting anywhere fast
[20:41] <Guest99887> I have been using Natty (11.04) for a while with a 3disk RAID5 via MDADM and all have been ok.
[20:41] <Guest99887> I have just stuck in another disk using:
[20:41] <Guest99887> mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/sdb, then mdadm --grow /dev/md --raid-devices=4
[20:41] <Guest99887> I then resize2fs /dev/md0
[20:41] <Guest99887> all seemed ok until i tried "tail -f /var/log/syslog" and was given:
[20:41] <FloodBot1> Guest99887: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:41] <MasterRoot> Pici: thanks, but nothing in /etc/sudoers.d except for the README - everything in this is commented out
[20:41] <Guest99887> tail: cannot watch `/var/log/syslog': No space left on device
[20:42] <Guest99887> df -h gives me loads of space free
[20:42] <Gentoo64> Guest99887, use a pasting site please
[20:42] <Guest99887> df -i no problems either
[20:42] <Gentoo64> or link to the forum
[20:43] <MasterRoot> Gentoo64: I appreciate you don't know the answer. Thank you for helping, I didn't mean any offence! :-)
[20:43] <Gentoo64> its ok
[20:43] <alaing_> hi how do i install git onto my ubuntu server
[20:43] <kingofswords> dr_willis, omg it worked thank you so much
[20:43] <alaing_> could someone help me setup git
[20:43] <kingofswords> you too guntbert
[20:43] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  think smarter, not harder. :)
[20:43] <Guest3636> Hi
[20:44] <guntbert> kingofswords: :)
[20:44] <kingofswords> lol
[20:44] <BartlomiejB> how can I rebuild some package after making changes to source code? I already did |sudo apt-get source <packagename>|.
[20:44] <dr_willis> kingofswords,  you could used the tab key also to complete the path/name/escape the spaces.. but its a bit of a hassle.
[20:44] <kingofswords> repeatition drives me crazy
[20:44] <Guest99887> have tried the suggestion of fsck -CV /dev/md0 - same old error?
[20:44] <trism> BartlomiejB: dch -i; write some message, debuild -uc -us -b; (generally, you'll need devscripts and some other packages)
[20:45] <Guest3636> I've installed drivers for my built in wireless card. It now sees the wireless access points but won't connect...
[20:45] <Guest99887> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11158361#post11158361
[20:45] <Unknown_Frequenc> Hi there! I'm still quite new to ubuntu. I finaly got setup Lamp and got the rights changed for the /var/www folders. I can't however include files from my .css files? ex. background-image: url('file.jpg'); Anyone know what could be the problem?
[20:46] <Unknown_Frequenc> I can include directly from the index.php though? And other css rules are included normally
[20:47] <iDirk> Is there a Dutch Ubuntu channel?
[20:47] <aeon-ltd> !dutch
[20:47] <iDirk> thnx :)
[20:48] <Gecko> Afternoon guys.... I'm trying to install the latest Ubuntu Server version in ESXi, but keep getting an error at the end of the install "the grub-pc package failed to install"
[20:48] <ChristopherNG> !pakistan]
[20:48] <ChristopherNG> wow! there is no pakistan channel for ubuntu?
[20:48] <Gecko> I've tried many many way so of configuring the virtual machine with no luck
[20:48] <iDirk> !pakistan
[20:48] <iDirk> No :p.
[20:48] <Gecko> can someoen help me?
[20:49] <ChristopherNG> there should be an ubuntu channel for all the nations of the united nations.
[20:49] <dr_willis> they are normally based on the language spoken...
[20:49] <MasterRoot> Gecko: What version of ESXi you trying to run it on?
[20:49] <Gecko> 4.1
[20:50] <MasterRoot> Gecko: and what version of Ubuntu are to attempting to install?
[20:50] <Gecko> ubuntu-11.04-server-amd64
[20:51] <mah454> hello ...
[20:51] <cheekee> !ur
[20:51] <mah454> How can i config X11 to listen tcp ?
[20:51] <mah454> How can i config X11 to listen tcp ?
[20:51] <cheekee> !urdu
[20:51] <Gecko> MasterRoot: ubuntu-11.04-server-amd64 is what I'm using
[20:52] <MasterRoot> Gecko: try burning a 10.04.3 LTS CD. I'm running 10.04 on ESXi 4.1 Update 1 with no problems, both x86 and x64
[20:52] <cheekee>  !hi
[20:52] <cheekee> !hindu
[20:52] <MasterRoot> Gecko: I'm unable to comment on the compatibility of the 11.04 version, not tried it on ESXi
[20:53] <rhizmoe> in gedit, is there a way to change the font size of the file browser sidebar?
[20:53] <eMyller> 'lo again. any guidelines for installing windows xp from an usb stick? i need to prepare the stick on my linux box, but i never did that.
[20:53] <BartlomiejB> trism: thanks, I'll try it.
[20:54] <MasterRoot> Gecko: If you can get 10.04.3 to install (which it should) you may be able to to do an upgrade to 11.04 later...
[20:55] <Old_Trafford99> Oh
[20:55] <trism> BartlomiejB: also, sudo apt-get build-dep package_name; for the packages required to rebuild
[20:55] <WallyJ2K> I need to change my refresh rate for my external VGA output, as a manual change or minimum change. Help anyone?
[20:56] <Old_Trafford99> I need a slash
[20:56] <cheekee> !urd
[20:56] <rjre> guys, anyone able to help me on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11158361#post11158361
[20:56] <Old_Trafford99> No sorry
[20:56] <eMyller> damn i hate windows. even for installing it's a pain in the ass. :|
[20:56] <Old_Trafford99> Windows is gay,
[20:57] <Kaco> lol
[20:57] <Old_Trafford99> Sadly its got a bit of a monopoly on things, IE games.
[20:57] <bazhang> cheekee, /msg ubottu
[20:57] <slayton> hi all! i'm trying to execute a python program I wrote from my desktop. I can run the program from the terminal just fine by typing python progname.py or by typing ./progname.py  but when I try to execute the command using ALT+f2 or with a desktop icon it doesn't seem to be working...
[20:57] <bazhang> !ot > Old_Trafford99
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Old_Trafford99: games is a small subset of computing
[20:57] <slayton> I tell it to open a terminal and I see the terminal but it closes right away
[20:57] <bazhang> eMyller, no cursing please
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> slayton: does xterm run ok?
[20:58] <slayton> ActionParsnip, yea,
[20:58] <dr_willis> slayton,  it is executable? and the program does start with a proper #! line?
[20:58] <bazhang> eMyller, ##windows for that
[20:58] <Old_Trafford99> Yes I know that but its annoying when a games company, printer company etc won't even entertain Linux.
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> slayton: ok then run:  gnome-terminal   from it, what is output?
[20:58] <slayton> dr_willis, here is the first line #!/usr/bin/env python
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> Old_Trafford99: many do, especially HP
[20:58] <eMyller> bazhang: would they teach how to do that on a linux box? >.>
[20:58] <bazhang> Old_Trafford99, did you have an actual support question?
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> Old_Trafford99: and Brother, and more now Lexmark and Canon
[20:58] <Guest3636> I've installed ralink 5390 drivers OK - it sees the wireless access points OK but simply won't connect
[20:58] <slayton> ActionParsnip, Alt+f2 opens gnome-terminal just fine
[20:59] <dr_willis> slayton,  it does have a gui? or is it a cli only app?
[20:59] <bazhang> eMyller, its not possible with xp btw, but yes they know how with  other versions
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest3636: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan
[20:59] <slayton> dr_willis, GUI
[20:59] <slayton> gtk
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest3636: what is the interface name used to scan?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> slayton: hmm, and does CTRL+ALT+T run a terminal ok?
[20:59] <dr_willis> slayton,  you could try launching 'xterm -e /the/script/name   &&  read'  perhaps..
[20:59] <slayton> ActionParsnip, CTRL + ALT + t does nothing
[21:00] <eMyller> bazhang: it is, i've seen once. will keep searching.
[21:00] <dr_willis> slayton,  i would 'guess' its most likely somtuing to do with the PATH or other env settings that are not set the same from a terminal, vs launchign it other ways..
[21:01] <slayton> dr_willis, hmm... ok i'll see what I can figure out
[21:01] <Guest3636> maybe I'm being dumb here but where does it say Interface? It shows me details for ra0 split into cells
[21:01] <slayton> dr_willis, the call to xterm opens xterm but it closes right away too
[21:01] <FriGiN> afternoon all. I'm in a heap of distress, and i really really would like to be out of it one way or another. I am getting error cannot get c/h/s value error message. I have 1 Raid 0 pair of ntfs drives, 1 500gb drive with a 10gb backtrack distro on it, and a 1 tb ntfs drive. I can't lose the 2 other drives, I want my 500gb to ultimately have backtrack and ubu 11.04. I've tried everything ive found on forums, ive tried win7 recovery dis
[21:02] <bazhang> FriGiN, go to the backtrack channel then its not supported here
[21:02] <dr_willis> slayton, but if you just open a xterm, and run it from inside .. it works fine?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest3636: install wicd using a wired link and set the wireless interface to ra0
[21:03] <FriGiN> bazhang backtrack is ubu 10.10.
[21:03] <bazhang> FriGiN, no its not
[21:03] <Pici> FriGiN : We do not support backtrack here, please use their support channel at #backtrack-linux
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> FriGiN: no, backtrack is backtrack. ubuntu is Ubuntu
[21:03] <bazhang> !backtrack | FriGiN
[21:03] <slayton> dr_willis, ha!
[21:03] <slayton> thanks
[21:03] <slayton> dr_willis, got it
[21:03] <dr_willis> slayton,  oh?
[21:04] <Siegel-> hi guys, i would just like to say im so happy with ubuntu. every time i think i might have made the wrong choice, im stunned to find out that the solution was much simpler than i had thought.
[21:04] <slayton> dr_willis, the program was looking for a file in a local dir and I didn't provide the absolute path, ugh
[21:04] <slayton> dr_willis, so stoopid
[21:04] <kurt_> x
[21:04] <dr_willis> slayton,  :)
[21:04] <Siegel-> do you think a $100 donation is okay?
[21:05] <dr_willis> Siegel-,  you want my address? :)
[21:05] <Siegel-> no haha
[21:05] <slayton> Siegel-, that is very generous IMHO
[21:05] <Siegel-> ill be donating it on the ubuntu website
[21:05] <Siegel-> its just that
[21:05] <Siegel-> i have 3 systems operating on ubuntu now
[21:05] <Siegel-> and i can say that ubuntu has "saved" two laptops
[21:05] <dr_willis> Ubuntu Cured my dogs cancer! :)
[21:05] <slayton> Siegel-, most people don't donate a cent
[21:06] <eggos> i deleted trash with sudo nautilus and ugh the free space didnt increase.... but the files dissapeared
[21:06] <Siegel-> and has improved my pc. not only that, everything works on it. the printer, and stuff. other stuff i would have had to download drivers for on windows or get an installation cd either work automatically on ubuntu or are much more easily achieved
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> eggos: don't use sudo with GUI apps, use gksudo
[21:06] <eggos> oh =\
[21:06] <eggos> i wonder where the files went
[21:06] <dr_willis> eggos,  that would have cleaned out roots trashcan also.. not the users..
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> eggos: try:  sudo apt-get clean   if space is an issue, and remove unused kernels to free LOTS of space
[21:07] <eggos> ok thanks
[21:07] <dr_willis> so it may have moved them from the users trash to roots trash..  :) hard to tell.. not sure why you would run naut. as root for such things..
[21:07] <eggos> hahahah
[21:07] <eggos> stupid forums :P
[21:07] <eggos> okay i got clean
[21:08] <slayton> can .desktop files include vars like $HOME?
[21:08] <munzxttt> hi! everybody! ... how can assure that openGL is enabled!?
[21:08] <Siegel-> slayton: up until now neither did i, but i do feel obligated now. or maybe not obligated, but very much motivated to do so. its just that in the past couple of weeks ive been impressed on many occasions by linux problem solving
[21:08] <Siegel-> and how everything i thought was a huge problem turned out just fine
[21:08] <Guest3636> Right. Setup wicd, added ra0 as wireless, put in WEP key and it reports bad password. I have a bad feeling this is a BTHomehub issue
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> slayton: sure, use them makes life easier :)
[21:08] <munzxttt> can any1 help me here plz?!
[21:09] <Guest3636> BTW thanks guys this is already a lot further forward than before and I'm also using a wireless USB stick til this works
[21:09] <eggos> Actionparsnip: now what :P
[21:09] <jwiggins> Guest3636, do not use WEP
[21:09] <eggos> Actionparsnip: i ran sudo apt-get clean
[21:10] <Guest3636> What should I use? The back of the hub says WEP key
[21:10] <slayton> ActionParsnip, hmm... when I replace /home/<usrname>/ in my desktop file with $HOME/ i get a popup saying no such file or directory
[21:10] <Guest3636> Damn you're good - the back of hte hub says WPA
[21:10] <BartlomiejB> trism: installing devscripts required installing postfix. that's really silly in my book :/
[21:10] <recon69_lap> Guest3636: wep sucks, takes about 5 min to crack
[21:10] <dr_willis> slayton,  $home would be a bash type variable/system var. not sure it applys to desktop files.
[21:11] <jwiggins> Guest3636, :) WEP has been phased out due to its vulnerabilities
[21:11] <jwiggins> Guest3636, and yes recon69_lap is correct, WEP takes about 5min to crack
[21:11] <shinsuke> can you read a linux partition under windows that was encrypted with luks? thanks
[21:11] <trism> BartlomiejB: sudo apt-get install devscripts --no-install-recommends
[21:12] <trism> BartlomiejB: although in that case you will need to get fakeroot too
[21:12] <jwiggins> WPA currently can not be cracked in the sense WEP can, it must be attacked via dictionary/rainbow tables
[21:12] <recon69_lap> love the way bt sells their network as secure, think they fixed it after bbc did a program
[21:12] <eggos> whats the dir for the root trashcan lol
[21:12] <trism> BartlomiejB: you can also uninstall it without removing devscripts
[21:12] <hoopjumping> Hi folks, I'm trying to fix three things in my ubuntu 11.04. Ok. 1: When using empathy and highlighting text, ctrl+c doesn't copy text. I can right click on it, but then sometimes I loose the text which is very frustrating especially if I have typed a lot. Why does CTRL+C not work for empathy and how can I make it work? 2: I can't navigate in firefox using page up/page down nor spacebar. How do I fix that? 3:Can anyone get HDM
[21:12] <hoopjumping> I to work with nvidia x server? I know HDMI works on this machine, just not with lin ux
[21:12] <munzxttt> can anyone help me here plz! ... i want yo assure that openGL is enabled ... how can i do that!?! (repeated the question to assure somebody read it)!!
[21:13] <jwiggins> Guest3636, I would recommend doing 2 things, change your SSID (name of your wireless network) and the passphrase, make it something like "i like toast and baseball" something easy to remember and dumb
[21:13] <BartlomiejB> trism: thanks again.
[21:13] <jwiggins> recon69_lap, yea I just look at all of the 2WIRE SSIDs out there running WEP and do a face palm
[21:14] <dr_willis> Guest3636,  change the ssid to be somthing scary like 'c:/virus.exe' :)  and  make the neighbors scared.
[21:14] <Guest3636> :D
[21:15] <Guest3636> We're now going through a continual loop of obtaining IP address then asking for password...
[21:15] <Sebo> Hi, How can I check in shell if the process with the given PID is curently running?
[21:15] <Haematoma> Xchat vs xchat-gnome
[21:15] <Haematoma> who wins?
[21:15] <Gentoo64> xchat
[21:15] <BartlomiejB> irssi
[21:15] <qin> Haematoma: irssi
[21:15] <om26er> xchat
[21:15] <BartlomiejB> huh
[21:15] <bazhang> !best > Haematoma
[21:15] <dreamy_> anyone knows why getdeb gets an error: pakcage not found
[21:15] <om26er> irssi is not an option :p
[21:16] <semeion> weechat for sure
[21:16] <Gentoo64> irssi is fugly
[21:16] <Haematoma> I keep hearing about irssi, what makes it so special?
[21:16] <jwiggins> Guest3636, in wicd you have it set to WPA 1/2 Pre-Shared key or passphrase?
[21:16] <BartlomiejB> actually, it is the only viable option ;)
[21:16] <jwiggins> xchat > xchat-gnome
[21:16] <Gentoo64> Haematoma, its a cli one
[21:16] <munzxttt> excuse me! but can anybody help here!?
[21:16] <Gentoo64> means its leet
[21:16] <jwiggins> BitchX!
[21:16] <Haematoma> cli?
[21:16] <semeion> weechat wins! xD
[21:16] <bazhang> !ot
[21:16] <Guest3636> WPA 1/2 passphrase
[21:17] <jwiggins> munzxttt, ask the Q
[21:17] <bazhang> Haematoma, dont poll here
[21:17] <Haematoma> command line interface
[21:17] <Haematoma> gotcha
[21:17] <jwiggins> Guest3636, try changing that to Pre-Shared key it should be the next option
[21:17] <battlehands> I just installed ubuntu and updated to the current version.  To test my sound I visited a youtube video of vivian cambell playing a guitar solo.  In order to view the video I needed to install a flash plugin.  I dowloaded it and extracted it to my Downloads folder.  How do I complete the installation from there?
[21:17] <munzxttt> jwiggin : thanks! .... how can assure that openGL is enabled?!
[21:17] <Guest3636> connection failed bad password
[21:18] <babaei> battlehands: flash for firefox is an avaliable package. that's probably the easiest way to do it.
[21:18] <babaei> flashplugin-notfree or something like that.
[21:18] <eggos> ugh how do i empty the root trash can by command line
[21:18] <Haematoma> ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[21:18] <battlehands> babaei, do I download it through synaptic?
[21:18] <eggos> i must of moved it from user trashcan to root lol
[21:18] <babaei> battlehands: yeah.
[21:18] <jwiggins> munzxttt, go to a command prompt and type "glxgears" do you see the gears?
[21:18] <babaei> you might have to enable non-free? not sure.
[21:19] <battlehands> babaei, would you provide me with additional guidance for the process?
[21:19] <thebrasse> Hi! Can anyone tell me if I need I am supposed to be able to create an installer USB from the alternative iso on Windows, using Universal USB Installer. For some reason the one I managed to create does not work. When I select the install option from the menu I just get a beep and end up at the menu again.
[21:19] <recon69_lap> battlehands: let me introduce the package manager in system , you'll wonder why installing software was ever done differently
[21:19] <hoopjumping> 1: I can't copy with keyboard in empathy. CTRL+C doesn't work. How do I make it work? 2: Firefox won't scroll down the page when I press the space bar, how do I make it do that? 3:I want to use my HDMI output on my computer. I have verified HDMI working under windows 7.
[21:19] <munzxttt> jwiggins : yes i do
[21:19] <battlehands> recon69_lap,  continue
[21:20] <recon69_lap> battlehands, find your packet manager, i'm not on 11.04 so cant direct you, look for admin programs or system menu
[21:20] <eggos> is it /root/.local/share/Trash ?
[21:21] <babaei> battlehands: within Synaptic, when you search for "flashplugin-installer", does something come up?
[21:21] <babaei> (type it into the "Quick filter")
[21:21] <Pici> !trash | eggos
[21:21] <eggos> =]
[21:21] <eggos> i was in root with nautilus and hit delete
[21:21] <battlehands> babaei, yes.  a transitional package (nonfree) and the installer
[21:21] <eggos> the file is floating around somewhere lol
[21:21] <qin> recon69_lap: Do you mean synaptic or Software Centre?
[21:21] <eggos> need to rm it :|
[21:22] <Pici> eggos: so its either in /root/.local/share/Trash or your user's /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash
[21:22] <babaei> battlehands: click on the box on the left of the menu list and select "mark for installation". a checkbox will appear in the box.
[21:22] <milkpost> does ubuntu *require* the base system to be installed now?
[21:22] <babaei> battlehands: then, click on the "Apply" button on the top of the screen. that will install it.
[21:23] <munzxttt> jwiggins : does this mean its enabled!? ... if so why i can't run openGL content despite i am using chrome which it says its supports it ... btw .. when i run "glxgear" the gears run very slowly !
[21:23] <Pici> milkpost: What do you mean?
[21:23] <recon69_lap> qin; synaptic, not moved to 11.04, i'll wait till a LTS is released
[21:23] <Codefixion> Hey. I have chieftec black box with maxtor 500gb hard drive. It has esata and usb, but it seems ubuntu does not recognize the hard drive with either usb or esata
[21:23] <milkpost> pici i am doing a command line install but it's still installing like 800M worth of stuff.
[21:23] <Guest3636> Been trying a few settings, still no go.
[21:23] <babaei> battlehands: the "Ubuntu Software Centre" is a little more user friendly and has some more detail about the packages, etc., if you're looking for software in the future.
[21:23] <Hegomire> hiž
[21:23] <Hegomire> *hi
[21:23] <babaei> battlehands: the "installer" is the one you want.
[21:24] <BartlomiejB> trism: where -uc and -us options to debuild are documented? I checked man and debuild --help and they say nothing :/
[21:24] <Hegomire> I have problem connecting to internet with ubunto 11.10
[21:24] <battlehands> babaei, It worked.  Thank you.  Now I find that I have no sound when I run Ubuntu.  When I run windows on my unit, only the right speaker has a non zero output
[21:24] <jwiggins> munzxttt, what is the FPS reporting at?
[21:24] <eggos> its in neither but i gained no free space insane
[21:24] <eggos> lol
[21:24] <jwiggins> munzxttt, you should see around 60 fps
[21:24] <Pici> milkpost: Are you using the minimal CD? The alternate CD installs the same thing as the regular live CD.
[21:24] <jwiggins> munzxttt, what video card do you have? Nvidia, ATI, or Intel?
[21:25] <munzxttt> jwiggins : sorry! new to linux! ... can u explain what do u mean plz?!
[21:25] <milkpost> Pici: minimal cd.  it's just installing all these libraries and crap
[21:25] <milkpost> i will check after this is done
[21:25] <eggos> fps = frames per second not really linux related
[21:25] <eggos> :P
[21:25] <milkpost> maybe i need to not configure the network.
[21:25] <jwiggins> munzxttt, when you ran that command, it should have spit out a few lines stating "X frames in Y seconds"
[21:25] <Pici> milkpost: I haven't done a minimal install in a while, but it should have asked you what tasks you wanted to install.
[21:26] <milkpost> Pici: yeah, i'm doing an expert install too and it just has "Install Base System"
[21:26] <BartlomiejB> trism: OK, silly me, I should read man dpkg-buildpackage for those options.
[21:26] <battlehands> Are there any sound guru's out there?
[21:27] <munzxttt> eggos : :) well not pc guy as well! .... i got :12772 frames in 5.0
[21:27] <tdn> When copying files via wifi (54mbit) I can only transfer about 1-2.5 mb/s, and one core is using 100 % CPU for the transfer. I have a 2.5 GHz Core 2 Duo. Is this normal? I would expect much better performance: higher transfer rates as well as much lower CPU usage.
[21:27] <recon69_lap> battlehands: try play a couple of sound files, you probably missing a few codecs
[21:28] <munzxttt> i've got 2 numbers actually!! .... 2554.332 and 2710.555
[21:28] <recon69_lap> battlehands: mp3 is not opensource so is not installed by default
[21:28] <pietr101> hey, if I have some reallocated sectors on my drive, does it means the drive is faulty?
[21:28] <babaei> battlehands: be sure to restart Firefox before you try a youtube video or something to test the sound.
[21:28] <hoopjumping> back? Hi, wireless dongle decided now was a good time to stop functioning. I'll repost what I asked as I wouldn't have seen any replies. 1: I can't copy with keyboard in empathy. CTRL+C doesn't work. How do I make it work? 2: Firefox won't scroll down the page when I press the space bar, how do I make it do that? 3:I want to use my HDMI output on my computer. I have verified HDMI working under windows
[21:29] <babaei> battlehands: if it's still not working, click on the speaker icon on the top-right of the screen and go to "Sound Preferences"
[21:29] <babaei> battlehands: take a look at the Hardware tab
[21:29] <babaei> make sure your sound card is there.
[21:29] <babaei> try setting the output volume at max and make sure it isn't muted
[21:30] <babaei> battlehands: then, try the "Test Speakers" button.
[21:30] <jwiggins> munzxttt, what brand video card do you have?
[21:30] <munzxttt> ATI
[21:30] <babaei> battlehands: your speakers may be crummy too, so you might want to try it with a pair of headphones.
[21:30] <munzxttt> jwiggins : ATI
[21:31] <blocky> what does it mean if fdisk -l shows /dev/dm-1 as a device?
[21:31] <battlehands> recon69_lap, but shouldnt my sound work by default?
[21:31] <battlehands> babaei, I have tested it with speakers and headphones.
[21:31] <trism> BartlomiejB: they are to avoid signing the files, you can omit them if you have gpg keys set up and want to sign them (I usually skip it if it is just my local machine)
[21:31] <babaei> battlehands: did you try that other stuff I listed?
[21:31] <jwiggins> munzxttt, okay open up the "Ubuntu Software Center" it should be in your program menu
[21:32] <battlehands> babaei, I restarted firefox
[21:32] <babaei> battlehands: recon69_lap's answer is too complicated. that would explain why only some of the audio doesn't work.
[21:32] <babaei> battlehands: did you go into the preferences and check the other stuff I listed?
[21:32] <SIFTU> blocky: means you have software raid setup
[21:32] <jwiggins> munzxttt, then search for ATI, there is an ATI driver there you can install. Once done you will need to restart X, it will be easiest if you just restart the PC
[21:32] <recon69_lap> battlehands: if your sound card is detected correctly, and you play a open format it will. babaei is pointing you to the correct way to test
[21:32] <munzxttt> jwiggins : what exactly ? ... openGL?
[21:33] <battlehands> babaei, I looked at the hardware and the device to configure id SB X-Fi.  I tried test speakers and I dont hear anything
[21:33] <blocky> SIFTU I'm running from 11.04 livecd, would that create a software raid of any kind?
[21:33] <jwiggins> munzxttt, "ATI binary X.Org driver"
[21:33] <recon69_lap> battlehands: check the volume level, is mute selected
[21:33] <battlehands> babaei, under the device the "profile" drop down menu has ~50 options.  Which one should I select?
[21:33] <blocky> I'm trying to repair a windows 7 thats not booting
[21:33] <battlehands> recon69_lap, no, nothing is muted
[21:33] <babaei> battlehands: I use "analog stereo duplex"
[21:33] <Silowyi> my clever idea to put chmod 1777 /tmp in rc.local so that it would set the correct permissions after mounting the instance storage to /tmp from AWS EC2... failed to take into account that stuff might write to /tmp during its rc.d script invokation.
[21:34] <SIFTU> blocky: I doubt it.. not sure tho since I have never run it
[21:34] <battlehands> babaei, thats what its on by default... still no sound.. thats so odd
[21:34] <babaei> battlehands: and double check that your output volume is up high and not muted.
[21:34] <Amin_> hi guys
[21:34] <jrib> Silowyi: why do you want to do this...?
[21:34] <BartlomiejB> trism: yes, I read that. thank you.
[21:34] <babaei> battlehands: i guess you can try the "Output" tab
[21:35] <recon69_lap> battlehands work through this  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[21:35] <SIFTU> blocky: actually raid is usually labeled mdx.. it could also be a lvm
[21:35] <munzxttt> jwiggins : its already installed!
[21:35] <SIFTU> blocky: try lvdisplay
[21:35] <babaei> battlehands: in the Output tab, make sure your balance is correct, as is your output connector (Analog Output or something like that)
[21:36] <Silowyi> jrib: customer wants to change their domain name. The great thing is they are just changing the order of two words in the name... from localbusiness to businesslocal (names have been changed to protect the stupid)
[21:36] <jrib> Silowyi: ok, but I do not see how that involves permissions on /tmp
[21:37] <Silowyi> err
[21:37] <Silowyi> wait
[21:37] <Silowyi> wrong window
[21:37] <Silowyi> lol XD
[21:37] <FloodBot1> Silowyi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:37] <Silowyi> I'm sorry FloodBot :)
[21:37] <battlehands> recon69_lap, still no sound.  I will work through that article
[21:37] <battlehands> thank you
[21:37] <Silowyi> jrib: I was asking a question in #dovecot at the same time
[21:37] <Kuddus> Hi, I am new in Linux, and wanted to konw if the installation process of Fedora is same as Ubuntu.
[21:37] <babaei> battlehands: another stupid thing, but visually confirm you're plugged into the right jack
[21:38] <Silowyi> jrib: Anyway, because I don't like /tmp living on a drive that I run hourly snapshots of on AWS/EC2
[21:38] <babaei> eg you're not plugging into the microphone or analog input or something by accident
[21:38] <battlehands> babaei, yeah, its all wired correctly.  thanks
[21:38] <jrib> Silowyi: ok, so you want to have /tmp on a separate partition?
[21:39] <Kuddus> anyone...
[21:39] <Amin_> just tried to run Internet Explorer under Wine (cause I've got to browse a site which is only opens with IE). While the default IE on Wine does'nt open I tried installing IE6 which I was downloaded but it says there's an older version of IE already installed on my pc... what to do?
[21:39] <Silowyi> jrib: it's EC2, your two options are instance storage or EBS, you can't snapshot a single partition, just an entire EBS drive. And it seems silly to pay $0.10 a month for 1 GB of /tmp space (their smallest allotment) when the instance storage is free :D
[21:39] <munzxttt> jwiggins : can u plz tell me what to do next!?
[21:40] <Kuddus> ............................
[21:40] <Silowyi> jrib: of course, I've probably cost the company at least $100 of my time by not doing it that way ;)
[21:40] <sojasauce> hi, firefox sometimes (randomly?) only shows a plack area where the vid should be. with google, i found many complaining about similar behaviour, but i didn't find any solution or what's causing it. can some1 help me further?
[21:41] <sojasauce> plack = black
[21:41] <recon69_lap> sojasauce: what country are you in, might be copyright infringement in that country
[21:42] <judgey> hey guys i need some help, i have installed ubuntu server and setup a forum but as i dont have my domain yet i can not access it so need to do it via ip, i have my own server so there is no username as such. How would i get to my foums just using the IP ?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> sojasauce: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep "flash|swf|gnash"
[21:42] <sojasauce> recon69_lap: switzerland. but i can assure you that it is not due to copyright, because the copyright things has text in it and second i happens to videos i wathced before too
[21:43] <babaei> judgey: http://12.34.56.78/fourm.php ?
[21:43] <bbx7> is there a driver for the aspire one's 6 cell battery? ubuntu sometimes misdetects the batter level and states the levels are critically low when they are not
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> bbx7: sounds like a bug with acpi, there are no battery drivers
[21:44] <bbx7> is there a fix?
[21:44] <sojasauce> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/pRkzFkJz
[21:45] <bbx7> i think it has something to do with the voltage changes
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> sojasauce: sudo apt-get --purge remove gnash-common gnash flashplugin-installer; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:46] <sojasauce> ActionParsnip: sorry, maybe it's not clear from my former statements: firefox usually works fine for most youtube vids
[21:46] <munzxttt> can anybody help me here?!
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> bbx7: check the bugs, see if there is on e reported for your model system
[21:46] <sojasauce> ActionParsnip: is my issue know to you?
[21:46] <bbx7> actionparsnip: kk
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> sojasauce: you have 2 flash plugins, this creates a conflict
[21:46] <sojasauce> ActionParsnip: oh!
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> sojasauce: by removing both then installing one plugin it will work fine
[21:47] <recon69_lap> munzxttt: just repeat your question every 5 min or so, asking for help not going to get many responses
[21:47] <sojasauce> ActionParsnip: i wonder why they are not marked as conflicting
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> sojasauce: its not a package conflict, its a functional conflict
[21:47] <hoopjumping> Has anyone got experience getting HDMI to work with Linux?
[21:48] <cfedde> hoopjumping: frequiently it "just works"
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> hoopjumping: works fine here from my nvidia video card. Not bothered with sound as I use speakers
[21:48] <recon69_lap> hoopjumping: yes, was not that hard. does require a lot of login in and out
[21:48] <ObrienDave> greets all
[21:48] <DrGrov> Evening
[21:49] <hoopjumping> Oh, hmm. Ok. I'll try booting with just the hdmi plugged in, maybe nvidia X server is having difficulty with two monitors.
[21:49] <munzxttt> recon69_lap : ok! ... i thought that would be rude ... anyway! i cant open any openGL-required content despite i am using chrome and i think its enabled!
[21:49] <sojasauce> ActionParsnip: understood. thank you for your advice!
[21:49] <hoopjumping> Ok, does anyone know how I can fix firefox to scroll up and down a page when I use page up/down?
[21:49] <DrGrov> How could I install KDE easily on 10.04? Having some DPI issues there and wonder how I can set it up bigger? In GNOME everything is easy to get big enough (fonts etc.) but I have no idea how to do this in KDE.
[21:50] <recon69_lap> hoopjumping: you have to have the hdmi plugged in at login for it to work
[21:50] <cfedde> s/login/boot/
[21:51] <ElvenArcher> quick question \ any how i can boot 32bit ubuntu 11.04 instead of default x64 one ?
[21:51] <recon69_lap> munzxttt: asking question not considered rude here :) but i have no answer to your question
[21:51] <cfedde> ElvenArcher: you installed x64?
[21:51] <ElvenArcher> i mean live cd
[21:51] <ElvenArcher> sory .
[21:52] <blocky> something funky is going on, parted is showing me /dev/mapper/isw_eajeccdji_Volume0 (2000GB)
[21:52] <munzxttt> thanks everybody! .....
[21:52] <blocky> anyone know what that means?
[21:52] <ObrienDave> cfedde: I'm running x64.
[21:52] <recon69_lap> ElvenArcher: use a 32bit live cd, think you decide when you download the image
[21:52] <sojasauce> ActionParsnip: is there a reason you recommend me the nonfree flashplugin over gnash? does it just work better?
[21:52] <glebihan> hoopjumping, does pageup/down work for some pages or for none ?
[21:52] <ElvenArcher> gotta download it again then. thx.
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> sojasauce: nonfree is the Adobe flash plugin, gnash is open source. Use what you wish but be sure to only have one
[21:53] <Default1_> Hello MC
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> sojasauce: there is also lightspark which is a good up and coming flashplugin
[21:53] <SIFTU> blocky: you have raid or lvm setup on your system somewhere
[21:53] <hoopjumping> glebihan: It works on some pages. I have noticed it won't work if the mouse cursor is above a flash window. I don't remember installing any flash. How do I find out if I'm using adobe or a free alternative to play flash?
[21:53] <blocky> SIFTU could a strange setting on a hard drive jumper cause that?
[21:54] <babaei> sojasauce: i would guess that, when your flash stops working, it's a case of the Adobe flash crashing and the browser using Gnash instead.
[21:54] <blocky> or in the BIOS?
[21:54] <SIFTU> blocky: no.. haved you had linux installed on your HDD's before?
[21:54] <blocky> nope
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> hoopjumping: remember to close all firefoxes and reopen to load the new plugin. If you go to     about:plugin     in firefox, it will tell you
[21:54] <blocky> windows 7 machine failed to boot so we put in a livecd
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> about:plugins   sorry
[21:54] <sojasauce> babaei: hm, that's a good thought
[21:54] <SIFTU> blocky: what does lvdisplay come back with
[21:54] <recon69_lap> hoopjumping: scrolls does not work for me when mouse is on certain content, i move the mouse
[21:55] <babaei> sojasauce: i had a series of flash plugins installed once (a 64 and a 32, I think) and that's how FF would behave.
[21:55] <blocky> SIFTU just gotta wait, I'm doing this remotely and parted is waiting on the floppy drive :P
[21:55] <babaei> if one crashed, it would load the other one.
[21:55] <hoopjumping> actionparsnip: about:plugin "is an unrecognised url"
[21:55] <glebihan> hoopjumping, scroll does in fact not work when a flash window is selected or when an input has the focus. That's not a bug though
[21:56] <sojasauce> babaei: do you have any experience gnash vs. adobe plugin?
[21:56] <babaei> sojasauce: i haven't used gnash, but I suspect it would suck compared to the official one.
[21:56] <blocky> No volume groups found
[21:56] <glebihan> hoopjumping, you forgot the "s"
[21:56] <glebihan> hoopjumping, about:plugins
[21:56] <babaei> sojasauce: the reviews on software centre aren't very favorable.
[21:56] <SIFTU> blocky: doubt it.. maybe check your bios and see if it's set up as RAID
[21:56] <hoopjumping> glebihan: I use firefox on windows and it will scroll even if you have an input box open, so that's the behaviour I'm used to. I was wondering how to modify/fix firefox on linux so it'll behave in the same way.
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> hoopjumping: about:plugins
[21:56] <blocky> could a corrupt partition cause that?
[21:56] <SIFTU> blocky: I have never seen linux pick up Bios software raid before.. but I guess it could
[21:57] <sojasauce> babaei: oh, i use aptitude... i don't know if/where i can see the ratings there... thank you for your research!
[21:57] <SIFTU> blocky: nope, it requires a lot of config to get a mapper happening
[21:57] <blocky> thats so strange...
[21:57] <glebihan> hoopjumping, I don't think there's any way you can change that behaviour
[21:57] <babaei> sojasauce: i use synaptic and it's the same deal. the software centre is their way to try and make the whole thing easier
[21:58] <babaei> sojasauce: with more details and screen shots and reviews and the like.
[21:58] <blocky> I think there is a 2tb drive that for some reason is being recognized as two volumes
[21:58] <mneptok> sojasauce: if you want Flash to work as most users expect, use the nonfree version (sadly)
[21:58] <blocky> any idea how that could happen?
[21:58] <hoopjumping> Oh, ok. Can you help me with empathy? I can paste fine into it using CTRL+V but CTRL+C will not copy text I have highlighted in the empathy chat window
[21:58] <mneptok> sojasauce: reverse-engineering a closed-source plugin that's written in ASM is not easy. and GNASH lags badly because of it.
[21:58] <SIFTU> blocky: need that lvdisplay output
[21:58] <sojasauce> babaei: ok, thx
[21:59] <DrGrov> How could I install KDE easily on 10.04? Having some DPI issues there and wonder how I can set it up bigger? In GNOME everything is easy to get big enough (fonts etc.) but I have no idea how to do this in KDE.
[21:59] <blocky> SIFTU I pasted it
[21:59] <Kuddus> is it possible to install Fedora from windows partition without burning the image on cd or putting it on usb?
[21:59] <blocky> [14:56] <blocky> No volume groups found
[21:59] <SIFTU> blocky: oh
[21:59] <sojasauce> mneptok: ok, thx
[21:59] <recon69_lap> the iUbuntu look just sort of seems wrong =-O
[21:59] <jrib> Kuddus: you're in #ubuntu
[21:59] <blocky> this is in parted: Disk /dev/mapper/isw_eajeccdji_Volume0: 2000GB
[21:59] <dr_willis> Kuddus,  you can set up grub2 to boot iso files... from a ntfs..
[22:00] <sojasauce> mneptok: maybe lightsprak, as ActionParsnip says, will start through
[22:00] <mneptok> sojasauce: what is it you're trying to do with Flash?
[22:00] <Kuddus> dr_willis: cool. do I need to d/l grub2?
[22:00] <dr_willis> Kuddus,  i have no idea what else your system may have. grub2 is included in a ubuntu install...
[22:00] <sojasauce> mneptok: was youtube video... i think that's the only thing i want to use it for
[22:01] <mneptok> sojasauce: is there a philosophical issue that leads you to not want to install the Adobe closed plugin?
[22:02] <zykotick9> sojasauce, you can use youtube with html5, also gnash works pretty well (for me) with YouTube
[22:02] <Kuddus> dr_willis: is it possible to extract the iso and just run the installer from the windows desktop?
[22:02] <ObrienDave> dr_willis: I finally gave up trying to install ubuntu to 2TB usb hard drive. Dang I hate not being able to figure it out.
[22:02] <sojasauce> mneptok: i try to use opensource as much as possible... ofc i have limits
[22:02] <storrgie> I'm about to install ubuntu on a M6600 with 16GiB of memory, in the past I have always used 32 bit because of flash... is there any reason to use 64 bit?
[22:02] <dr_willis> ObrienDave,  i found it rather trivial.
[22:02] <mneptok> sojasauce: if asll you want is YouTube video, opt into their HTML5 beta and don't use Flash at all.
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> sojasauce: open source flash isn't too bad, there are just features missing and such. Give them a try is all I can suggest
[22:03] <sojasauce> zykotick9: will i need any additional fiddling with software for the use of html5 on youtube?
[22:03] <dr_willis> Kuddus,  i dont use fedora. no idea..  i doubt if it has a 'installer' you run on windows.. im just stateing you CAN setuo a ubuntu box to boot ISO files with grub2. Ive done so as emergancy recovery methods and to test live cds easially.
[22:03] <mneptok> sojasauce: no. HTML5 Just Works(tm) in Firefox and Chrome
[22:03] <zykotick9> sojasauce, no, just a modern browser then go to http://www.youtube.com/html5
[22:03] <DrGrov> How do I install KDE easily on 10.04? Is there a metapackage I download or?
[22:03] <recon69_lap> ObrienDave: does it not work the same as any usb install
[22:04] <Kuddus> dr_willis: got it.
[22:04] <zykotick9> sojasauce, not everything is html5 yet :(  thus, gnash can pickup the rest :)
[22:04] <dr_willis> DrGrov,  kubuntu-desktop package
[22:04] <dr_willis> !kde
[22:04] <sojasauce> ActionParsnip: mneptok zykotick9 ok, i'll go gnash then because i don't think i'll need any out of ordinary features
[22:05] <ObrienDave> recon69_lap, I installed to a 16GB usb stick, NO PROBLEM, could not get usb hard drive to boot.
[22:05] <DrGrov> dr_willis: Is that a metapackage?
[22:05] <dr_willis> DrGrov,  of course..
[22:05] <sojasauce> zykotick9: i use ff 3.6.18 (i am on ubunut 10.04) do you know at chance if chromium is modern enough?
[22:06] <DrGrov> dr_willis: Great, thanks :)
[22:06] <dr_willis> !info kubuntu-desktop
[22:06] <recon69_lap> ObrienDave: dont usb drives have a setting to allow booting
[22:06] <zykotick9> sojasauce, chromium-browser should work yes
[22:07] <sojasauce> zykotick9: ok, will go for that one :)
[22:07] <ObrienDave> recon69_lap, not sure about that. using WD MyBook 2TB drive. tried everything I could think of.
[22:07] <DrGrov> dr_willis: If I want to revert back to where I am now without having KDE installed what do I do then?
[22:07] <DrGrov> Sort of removing it to this state my setup is now?
[22:07] <zykotick9> sojasauce, i'm affraid FSF doesn't consider chromium "free" however
[22:07] <dr_willis> !puregnome
[22:08] <sojasauce> zykotick9: hm, so it's opensource but not free?
[22:08] <recon69_lap> ObrienDave: had a quick look on google and found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB , look like it covers it all
[22:08] <zykotick9> sojasauce, ya, PARTS of it are questionable i guess?  Debian considers it free.
[22:08] <DrGrov> dr_willis: It does not matter if I still keep the KDE stuff there or does it make a problem later?
[22:09] <DrGrov> dr_willis: I mean can I have GNOME co-existing with KDE still?
[22:09] <glebihan> sojasauce, zykotick9 : for details : http://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines#chromium-browser
[22:10] <zykotick9> sojasauce, honestly though, if you are concerned about software freedom, Ubuntu isn't the right distro to be using.
[22:10] <cfedde> DrGrov: you can have both installed and use apps from one in the other.
[22:10] <battlehands> recon69_lap, I went through the help page and still have no sound
[22:10] <DrGrov> cfedde: Great, that is what I shall do then. Thanks. :) It just becomes unbearable to have a huge list of apps all over :)
[22:11] <sojasauce> zykotick9: i know... but i try to do it within my capabilites... and in that case ubunut is fair enough for me
[22:11] <battlehands> recon69_lap, I used the audio debugger and left my bug on launchpad for the develper team
[22:11] <willbradley> anyone used ipsec-tools or racoon?
[22:11] <willbradley> i can't get this config script to parse even though i copy-pasted it
[22:11] <ObrienDave> recon69_lap: gonna read those pages again. tnx. I have ubuntu installed dual-boot on main hard drive. works great.
[22:11] <cfedde> DrGrov: it's hard to get away from having the huge list of apps.
[22:12] <ObrienDave> brb
[22:12] <recon69_lap> battlehands: seems you got a bug. do you have a link to the bug report
[22:12] <DrGrov> cfedde: Ok, then I shall use that. GDM is the one I shall have as my login manager yes?
[22:12] <sojasauce> zykotick9: so i an willing to choose a opensource or even free software over a prop. one, but i am a user too. so usually if a problem occurs i try to solve it for two days or so, then see if i could adjust and as last resort fall back to prop.
[22:13] <cfedde> DrGrov: iirc the last one you install is the one that provides the login screen.  though you can switch it pretty easy.  I had to google the answer last time I did that.
[22:14] <DrGrov> cfedde: Ok, it asked it from me now when I install and I just had GDM to choose.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> sojasauce: choice is good :)
[22:14] <recon69_lap> going to try fix my problem for a bit
[22:15] <battlehands> recon69_lap, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/827675
[22:16] <willbradley> fk me. was missing the semicolons. my coder cred is gone.
[22:16] <recon69_lap> battlehands: hmm, did you answer 'no' to did you hear a sound question
[22:16] <recon69_lap> battlehands: and then fill out a bug report
[22:16] <sojasauce> glebihan: thank you for that link!
[22:16] <battlehands> recon69_lap,  yes
[22:16] <Guest72782> a possibly stupid question: what is the equivalent of gentoo's /etc/make.conf in Ubuntu?
[22:17] <dr_willis> Guest72782,  i dont think there is one.
[22:17] <daedra> dr_willis: there is no way of having system wide compiler flags?!
[22:17] <babaei> battlehands: aww 10.10, not 11.04?
[22:17] <Guest96321> this sounds like crazyness
[22:17] <recon69_lap> battlehands: lol, well could still be anything, that bug report is just what you typed in, testing did nothing but show that you are not hearing anything, you might have gone deaf :P
[22:17] <lordsprocket> I need help
[22:18] <lordsprocket> I added a panel and it is invisible
[22:18] <lordsprocket> and I cannot right click it
[22:18] <cfedde> Guest96321: there's not many doing compile from source on ubuntu.
[22:18]  * dr_willis waits for someont to figure out a nontaken nick. :)
[22:18] <lordsprocket> but it fucks up my window borders
[22:18] <dr_willis> the package manager dosent really need such a thing like gentoo does..  so i wouldent make much sence for system wide gcc flags..
[22:19] <dr_willis> they are not compilr flags i guess you can say. but options for the gentoo package manager to use when it does compile..
[22:19] <Guest96321> cfedde: all 100 or so employees here do
[22:19] <Guest96321> :(
[22:20] <Guest96321> dr_willis: well you know what I mean
[22:20] <Guest96321> when I run make, I want it to use some configs
[22:20] <Guest96321> I don't mean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GenBunToo
[22:20] <intrader> Anyone, I would like to connect from ubuntu to a cups printer that is connected to a mac
[22:20] <fagel> I have 2 monitors, can I launch a program to my second display from my first display? (It's kinda annoying to get the mouse over to the tv to each time I need to do something with xbmc)
[22:20] <Guest96321> but I do mean system wide compiler flags
[22:20] <babaei> battlehands: this Pinnacle Systems Inc. AV/DV Studio Capture Card thing
[22:20] <Guest96321> I suppose there's some way of hacking it in
[22:20] <babaei> is it possibly something wrong with that?
[22:20] <babaei> hijacking the audio or something like that
[22:20] <sojasauce> zykotick9: i looked at the youtube html5 link ... i had to click the button "join html5 test" ... how do they identify me? i hope not my ip, becuase this would affect my flate mates too...
[22:20] <recon69_lap>  battlehands: try running alsamixer
[22:21] <babaei> recon69_lap: what if his pulseaudio mixer is sending the audio to another device (eg not the Creative Labs card)?
[22:21] <zykotick9> sojasauce, i'm sure it's a cookie
[22:21] <dr_willis> Guest96321,  thats the point of a make file.. it sets the options.. it would override any systemwide defaults... gcc has features for env variabnes and stuff to set 'defaults';
[22:21] <cfedde> Guest96321: if that's the case then there might be someone locally that has the right clues for you.
[22:22] <dr_willis> Guest96321,  any user set flags  like in a make file would override them. so its sort of redundant id think.  you could check the gcc docs to see what varaibles it checks. and set some defaults in  the  various configs in etc.
[22:22] <sojasauce> zykotick9: hm... i use chromium, but it prompts me to download flash, even after i opted in for html5 :(
[22:22] <recon69_lap> babaei: looking for the appropriate commands atm, alsamixer a good place to check mute and volume settings
[22:23] <Guest96321> dr_willis: yeah ok
[22:23] <sojasauce> zykotick9: just cheked... its by cookie
[22:24] <zykotick9> sojasauce, try a different video (as i said not everything is html5 yet), adding gnash with html5 will probably give you better results, then it will use html5 when it can, and gnash when it can't
[22:24] <dr_willis> Guest96321,  some user was in here the other day ranting about a similer thing.. :)  but at least you are calm about it.. heh.
[22:24] <supercom32> Apache keeps giving me this error in the logs "(111)Connection refused: scgi...". I don't have a firewall enabled. Any ideas?
[22:24] <Guest96321> dr_willis: I could rant if you want :)
[22:25] <dr_willis> we have allready state4d why such a thing dosent make sence Guest96321 .  the other user dident want to hear that.. :)
[22:27] <dr_willis> Guest96321,  just googled and found this also -> but its for  building packages I think.. (skimming it now) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilerFlags
[22:28] <supercom32> Any ideas as to why Apache would throw a "(111)Connection refused: scgi: scgi: can't connect to server" error?
[22:28] <Angelous> Anyone know if there is a command for *nix to find out the specific memory useage of a program?
[22:29] <axisys> what kind a encryption ubuntu uses to encrypt home dir?
[22:29] <recon69_lap> battlehands: run 'lspci' and paste the results
[22:29] <iceroot> when i login into ubuntu with ssh its telling me about missing updates? is there a check everytime i am using ssh to connect to the machine? or is the check done e.g. ones a day and the result just stored somewhere and shown when using ssh
[22:29] <Angelous> Anyone know if there is a command for *nix to find out the specific memory useage of a program?
[22:29] <sojasauce> zykotick9: http://html5test.com/ chromium on ubuntu 10.04 scores 313 and 13 bonus points
[22:29] <iceroot> Angelous: specific?
[22:30] <iceroot> Angelous: top / ps is not enough?
[22:30] <Angelous> Ummm, my apache2 server.
[22:30] <orjan_> Hey, I'm having some troubles reloading my uwsgi config file in /etc/init/ on ubuntu 10.04. I'm using upstart to "service uwsgi start/stop/", but when I alter the config file, it just keeps running the old settings. I'm new to using upstart, so is the default behavior if the conf file is not valid or something?
[22:30] <sojasauce> zykotick9: firefox 3.6.18 gets 179 and 4 bonus points
[22:31] <iceroot> Angelous: use top and also see http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[22:31] <Angelous> Ummm, my apache2 server, ice799
[22:31] <Angelous> Ummm, my apache2 server, iceroot
[22:31] <intrader> Anyone, perhaps not noticed, I would like to connect from ubuntu to a cups printer that is connected to a mac
[22:31] <iceroot> Angelous: ps aux | grep apache2
[22:31] <Angelous> What does the grep command actually do?
[22:31] <Angelous> I'm new to linux and trying to learn all of it's commands.
[22:31] <imark> grep is awesome
[22:31] <iceroot> Angelous: search for the string "apache2" in the output of "ps aux"
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> Angelous: filters text, or searches files for a string or pattern
[22:31] <zykotick9> sojasauce, c-b 13 scored 312+13, and I-W scored 288+9 for me
[22:32] <sojasauce> ActionParsnip: zykotick9 glebihan mneptok babaei thank you all for your time and interest! wish you all the best karma,luck or coffee... whatever you prefer :P
[22:32] <iceroot> Angelous: i am piping the output oof "ps aux" with "|" to "grep"
[22:32] <recon69_lap> Angelous: It filters output by searching for a match to a regular expression
[22:32] <Angelous> hmmm, ok
[22:33] <Ogi0n> i made two accounts,  Admin  and Guest,  how do I make it so that Guest cannot access Admin home folder?
[22:33] <DasEi> intrader: did you already try to point a browser on mac's ip on port 631 ?
[22:33] <sojasauce> zykotick9: midori gets 222+9
[22:33] <DasEi> intrader: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[22:33] <iceroot> Ogi0n: remove the read-flag for others
[22:34] <intrader> DasEi, no, but I have printed a test page from localhost:631 on the mac
[22:34] <intrader> DasEi, the source of the documents to be printer is ubuntu
[22:34] <orjan_> Anyone know how to force reload new config settings on upstart? I've tried "initctl reload-configuration" still no change..
[22:34] <DasEi> intrader: to stay in terminal can use elinks or such, then there you can , if you get a gui, install it
[22:35] <recon69_lap> Angelous: you can use 'grep -lir a-string-to-find' and it will list all the files that have 'a-string-to-find' in them
[22:35] <Angelous> When you say a-string-to-find what are you meaning, exactly?
[22:36] <Angelous> Like a line of text?
[22:36] <Angelous> A certain file name?
[22:36] <intrader> DasEi, I am confused - terminal? if you get a gui?
[22:36] <DasEi> intrader: open a terminal
[22:36] <DasEi> !terminal
[22:36] <ityler15> A non working driver is tring to load instead of my STA driver, help?
[22:36] <recon69_lap> Angelous: can be anything. you could be looking for someones name for instance in a folder of documents
[22:36] <hunger__> hey all, been trying to figure this out for some time, i've asked in kubuntu and k3b, but is there a way to burn a single mp3 file using a cue sheet (with tracks in the cue sheet?)  I though i had done this before but for the life of me can't figure it out now
[22:37] <intrader> DasEi, yes - it is open
[22:37] <Angelous> What does the -lir do?
[22:37] <Angelous> l mean list?
[22:37] <DasEi> intrader: sudo apt-get install elinks && elinks http://Mac-IP-here:631/
[22:38] <iceroot> Angelous: man grep
[22:38] <zykotick9> Angelous, "man grep" - i had to as well, the -l suppresses normal output
[22:38] <DasEi> intrader: does this end up in a gui ?
[22:38] <iceroot> Angelous: then you have the manual and can see the different parameters/options
[22:38] <recon69_lap> iceroot: you beat me to it lol
[22:39] <kasi> how can I use a 2.6.39 kernel? This page says that I need that to get the external monitor running, but the wget command misses the url: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-1/Natty#ExtMon
[22:39] <intrader> DasEi, how do I find the IP address of the Mac, and 'does this end up...'?
[22:39] <iceroot> Angelous: -lir is the same as -l -i -r
[22:39] <iceroot> Angelous: in the manpage you can search with / e.g. to find the string -l use /-l
[22:39] <iceroot> Angelous: to exit the manpage use "q"
[22:40] <recon69_lap> Angelous: grep is the Swiss army knife for searching for things.
[22:40] <Angelous> I see
[22:40] <Angelous> I'll play around with it a bit, then.
[22:40] <DasEi> intrader: I don't use mac, it'll be in network settings, or nmap it ; end up means do you get a gui on that address (cups)
[22:40] <Pat201> what is MD5
[22:41] <DasEi> !md5sum
[22:41] <Haematoma> Do I ever have to worry about a virus migrating form a guest OS to a host OS?
[22:41] <zykotick9> recon69_lap, i'd say that grep is more like the samurai sword of searching for things ;)
[22:41] <Haematoma> Or guest OS infecting other networked PCs?
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Haematoma: ubuntu doesn't get viruses
[22:41] <DasEi> Pat201: a hash of a file to check it's integrety
[22:41] <dr_willis> Haematoma,  depends on the os and virus....
[22:41] <intrader> DasEi, I got it from the info page on the mac.
[22:42] <Haematoma> Host OS - Ubuntu; Guest OS - anything
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Haematoma: if the guest is windows and has network access, it may affect other systems on the LAN if they are also susceptible
[22:42] <dr_willis> Haematoma,  most likely not going to be an issue ;)
[22:42] <DasEi> intrader: no harming firewall ? and maybe you must allow from the mac the printer to be shared
[22:42] <Haematoma> Is there any way I can limit LAN network access to the gateway only?
[22:42] <Amin_> just tried to run Internet Explorer under Wine (cause I've got to browse a site which is only opens with IE). While the default IE on Wine does'nt open I tried installing IE6 which I was downloaded but it says there's an older version of IE already installed on my pc... what to do?
[22:43] <Angelous> Can someone give me a example of a grep search? At the moment I tried this: grep -lir firefox and it just sits there until I stop it.
[22:43] <recon69_lap> Haematoma: yes, virus can travel through your server to infect other machines
[22:43] <TA5K> Hi, my compiz crashes very oftem, when I press a UX bnutton or the unity panel. Anyone an idea how to fisx this? - kernel: [ 7255.825346] compiz[27481]: segfault at 14 ip b588b36c sp bfcc8630 error 4 in libregex.so[b5887000+7000
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Amin_: use an agent switcher in firefox (or whatever browser you use)
[22:43] <recon69_lap> Angelous: you need a file that contains the text firefox in it so grep can find it
[22:43] <DasEi> Amin_: can purge whole wine and retry; user agent on firefox doesn't do the trick ?
[22:43] <intrader> DasEi, some crude GUI
[22:44] <DasEi> intrader :)
[22:44] <Amin_> what is that user agent on firefox you're talking about?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Amin_: it makes the site think you are using a different browser
[22:45] <DasEi> intrader: you will have to find your way through the menu, you can click it, admin > add printer > and so on
[22:45] <Amin_> is it kind of an add-on?!
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Amin_: yes
[22:45] <Amin_> brb
[22:46] <DasEi> Amin_: http://tinyurl.com/3hez8p8
[22:47] <recon69_lap> Haematoma LAN network access is by definition directed to the gateway
[22:47] <Ogi0n> Does anyone know how I can prevent non-admin user to access Admin home folder?
[22:48] <recon69_lap> Haematoma, you limit what get on you lan by blocking ports and using proxy servers
[22:48] <DasEi> Ogi0n: it's default
[22:48] <Ogi0n> DasEi: huh?
[22:49] <Haematoma> I want to limit my guest OS to only have outbound traffic through the gateway, no lateral traffic
[22:49] <Ogi0n> DasEi: you mean its a default setup and I can't change it
[22:49] <recon69_lap> Haematoma, that just my limited knowledge on the subject, there are a library of books about how to secure a lan
[22:49] <TA5K> no one en idea how to fix this: kernel: [ 7255.825346] compiz[27481]: segfault at 14 ip b588b36c sp bfcc8630 error 4 in libregex.so[b5887000+7000]?
[22:49] <DasEi> Ogi0n: no, by default a regular user can't access files in root
[22:49] <Amin_> well, now it's not the site prompting me to use IE ! it's firefox which can't render the webpage !
[22:49] <Haematoma> Ok, thanks anyhow :)
[22:49] <Ogi0n> well I did, so Idk what im doing
[22:50] <Ogi0n> I have default Admin account, then I created Guest account that isn't admin, log out, log onto guest and when I view the home folder, i went up one level saw Admin folder and opened files no problem
[22:51] <DasEi> Ogi0n: output (pastebin.com) from ls -la /  ?
[22:51] <recon69_lap> Haematoma: you'd need to use a switching router to get something like that going on a lan
[22:51] <Amin_> ActionParsnip, well, now it's not the site prompting me to use IE ! it's firefox which can't render the webpage !
[22:51] <zykotick9> Ogi0n, by default Ubuntu allows read to all user's home folders.  Change the permission on the folders in /home to 770 to prevent users from accessing them.
[22:51] <intrader> DasEi, under Printers it sees the printer,  but 'Administration->System->Printing' does not let me see it.
[22:52] <Haematoma> Do you have a way of quickly generating <name>:
[22:52] <Haematoma> or is that typed manually every msg?
[22:52] <Haematoma> manually typed*
[22:52] <DasEi> Ogi0n: you will have to do this config on both machines, enable sharing on remote and set up on localhost to get it seen locally
[22:53] <DasEi> elinks http://localhost:631/
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> Amin_: there is ies4linux but it's not great. Basically the coding for the page sucks
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> Haematoma: use TAB after typing a few letter
[22:54] <DasEi> Amin_: or purge wine and try again ie6
[22:54] <recon69_lap> Haematoma: type the first few letter of a username and press tab
[22:54] <zykotick9> Amin_, if you have a legal copy of Windows perhaps a Virtual Machine would work?
[22:54] <Haematoma> recon69_lap, thanks!
[22:54] <Haematoma> recon69_lap, is there a setting to change from ',' to ":"?
[22:54] <Amin_> ActionParsnip, I know the page sucks but I've got to use that as far as it's the site for my university education system !
[22:54] <intrader> DasEi, from the Printers page I am able to issue a 'Print Test' command. But Administrations gives me 403 (denied)
[22:55] <Ogi0n> ok one sec I gotta try something
[22:55] <recon69_lap> Haematoma: not that i know of, i cut and paste sometimes
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> Amin_: try ies4linux is all I can suggest, or maybe chromium-browser will do better
[22:55] <Amin_> zykotick9, I don't buy Windows
[22:55] <Amin_> ies4linux? is that a package?
[22:55] <DasEi> intrader: try as root then, as config files need permissions to get written (sudo elinks, in general bad practice)
[22:56] <zykotick9> Amin_, the version of IE that ies4linux install is very old at this point.
[22:56] <xcoder> How to open 2 windows of the same SSH session fast without having to go into the connect thingy all over again
[22:56] <intrader> DasEi, what about 'Appllications->System->Printing?
[22:57] <DasEi> intrader: will work once both setups are correct and cups locally running, too
[22:57] <DasEi> !printer
[22:58] <urabutthole> yes hello
[22:58] <intrader> DasEi, the cups system still tells me error 403 when I choose Administration in elinks
[22:58] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> Is there a small Netinstall iso image available for Ubuntu with just the base system and utilities like for Debian?
[22:59] <zykotick9> sh4d3sl4y3r_, mini
[22:59] <DasEi> intrader: cups installed on the ubu-box
[22:59] <zykotick9> !mini | sh4d3sl4y3r_
[22:59] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> zykotick9: the mini has jst the installer just like the debian businesscard. i dont want it that small... any image which contains the base system too ?
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> Amin_: its not a apackage, there is a site with a compressed binary, simply extract it and run it
[23:00] <recon69_lap> right, i'm off, never finish setting this print up if i stay :)
[23:00] <intrader> DasEi, the cups system is installed on the Mac and the printer connected to the mac
[23:00] <zykotick9> sh4d3sl4y3r_, mini is all Ubuntu offers, besides Alternate and regular Desktop
[23:00] <DasEi> intrader: cups-installe on the ubu-box, too please
[23:00] <mneptok> sh4d3sl4y3r_: get the DVD
[23:01] <DasEi> sh4d3sl4y3r_: the alternate let's you choose expert install, fine grained
[23:01] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> DasEi: ok. i wil download that
[23:01] <zykotick9> mneptok, "<sh4d3sl4y3r_> Is there a small Netinstall iso image" and you suggest the DVD???
[23:01] <intrader> DasEi, so it cups to cups.
[23:02] <Amin_> ActionParsnip, thanks I'll try
[23:02] <DasEi> intrader: see given factoid(s)
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> Amin_: I'd moan at the maintainers and call them lazy
[23:02] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> zykotick9: is there an alternate for the lubuntu?
[23:02] <intrader> DasEi, what factoids
[23:02] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> I am an lxde user mostly
[23:02] <DasEi> !print > intrader
[23:03] <zykotick9> sh4d3sl4y3r_, sorry i have no idea
[23:03] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> zykotick9: no problem mate
[23:04] <battlehands> I posted a bug report online for the developers.  How will I know if action is taken to resolve my issue?
[23:04] <mneptok> zykotick9: "a small netinstall image" and "contains the entire base system" are mutually exclusive. if you want *all* packages on the physical media, you need the DVD
[23:04] <bazhang> battlehands, follow up with the bug progress report
[23:05] <intrader> DasEi, ubottu: neither address my need to use 'Applications->System->Printing'. The elink command is able to talk to the printer.
[23:05] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> Its just i am coming from Debian. But Squeeze is getting backdated . And testing keeps breaking.. So was considering Ubuntu+LXDE. I like installing the base system using the disk .. and download lxde+slim from the repository.
[23:05] <zykotick9> mneptok, i see your point.
[23:05] <battlehands> bazhang, how?
[23:05] <bazhang> battlehands, whats the bug link
[23:06] <mneptok> sh4d3sl4y3r_: install Ubuntu server, then add whatever X11/DE packages you want.
[23:06] <battlehands> bazhang, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/827675
[23:06] <fr500> sh4d3sl4y3r_: and why not using lubuntu then?
[23:06] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> fr500: ya i am downloading that. but the thing is i prefer a more minimalistic lxde system with slim as the login manager ..
[23:06] <DasEi> intrader: if you set it up correctly and restarted cups, it'll work, you can go via the troubleshot funktion else (printer-applet)
[23:06] <bazhang> battlehands, see whether they confirm it as an actual bug, by following that page, offering other info if needed
[23:07] <DasEi> sh4d3sl4y3r_: there is http://phillw.net/lubuntu-10.10-alternate.iso
[23:07] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> ok thanks
[23:07] <battlehands> bazhang, Also.  I downloaded a game, Heroes of Newerth, and I dont have an Icon to run it anywhere.  I have a hon.sh file that looks like a text file, and I have to select run in for it to work.
[23:08] <alpha> hi,has anyone tried computer temperature monitor applet on ubuntu 11.04?it doesn't see to work on mine
[23:08] <Ogi0n> ya I got it now, I had to go to Home folder and right click properties  set Permission of Admin to  Others: None
[23:08] <fr500> sh4d3sl4y3r_: well you could get ubuntu server, then install only the packages you need
[23:08] <urlin2u> sh4d3sl4y3r_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[23:09] <zykotick9> sh4d3sl4y3r_, i personally think mini makes more sense then server
[23:09] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> ya cause the server editions uses a server kernel
[23:09] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> are the ubuntu iso's hybrid images?
[23:09] <intrader> DasEi, I know it is setup correctly as elink addresses and prints the test page. But there is no printers setup by the 'Applications->System->Printing' applet
[23:09] <zykotick9> sh4d3sl4y3r_, no
[23:10] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> then how should i put it on a pendrive from debian?
[23:10] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> dd wont work. unetbootin?
[23:10] <zykotick9> sh4d3sl4y3r_, unetbootin is probably easiest
[23:10] <kingofswords> whats a good wine channel
[23:10] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> ok thanks
[23:10] <fr500> I miss ubuntu jeos
[23:10] <bazhang> kingofswords, #winehq is it
[23:10] <fr500> it was good for these kind of installs
[23:10] <kingofswords> thx
[23:10] <zykotick9> sh4d3sl4y3r_, my I PM you.  Re: why you are migrating from Debian to Ubuntu.
[23:11] <DasEi> intrader: you sucessfully configured on both sides, restarted cups on the ubu box and still can't find it ?
[23:12] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> zykotick9: didnt get your pm . i guess its the torrent
[23:12] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> well its the long aged nature of the stable branch. and testing seems to break a lot.
[23:12] <intrader> DasEi, I have not done anything to configure on the ubuntu side. What do I need to do in the ubuntu?
[23:13] <Xenophon> On a netbook, & trying to change the tty resolutions on a 1024x600 screen, is this something to do with Plymoth?
[23:13] <DasEi> intrader: see above, sudo elinks http://localhost:631/
[23:14] <zykotick9> sh4d3sl4y3r_, i didn't send the PM, cause you didn't say YES ;)
[23:14] <DasEi> intrader: and if other things are still missing (foomatic maybe) you will be told
[23:14] <WallyJ2K> Hello all. Back again to ask about my external VGA setup. Can't get anything to how on my TV from my laptop. ideas/
[23:14] <WallyJ2K> ?
[23:15] <DasEi> !TV-out | WallyJ2K
[23:16] <DasEi> !dualhead might also be some hints
[23:16] <DasEi> !dualhead
[23:16] <WallyJ2K> This isn't TV-out, it's VGA out... and my video card is ATI, not NVidia...
[23:16] <intrader> DasEi, what is elinks doing? that works.
[23:16] <DasEi> intrader: setting up conf
[23:16] <WallyJ2K> just saw the second link. I'll check it out, but again... VGA out, not TV out
[23:17] <intrader> DasEi, why does the Printing applet not work?
[23:17] <DasEi> intrader: it's a browser, but textmode so you won't have to fizzle terminal/other apps (aka ff..)
[23:17] <WallyJ2K> I am pretty sure I need to adjust my refresh rate from 60 to 59.934, but 11.04 doesn't use the xorg.conf any more.
[23:18] <intrader> DasEi, I have restarted elinks and now I can do Administration
[23:18] <DasEi> intrader: read the output from terminal, install possibly missing stuff, restart cups, use troublershooter
[23:18] <dr_willis> WallyJ2K,  xorg.conf is used it it exists.. and X auto configures for the most part/no xorg.conf by default for the last 3+ releases I belive...
[23:19] <photon> is there a true random number generator app on Ubuntu which takes randomness from the environment (mouse movements, etc)?
[23:19] <WallyJ2K> so I can put settings into a new xorg.conf file in the etc directory and it will pick up the settings?
[23:19] <kasi> how can I start the popup window that asks for the keyring password?
[23:19] <DasEi> WallyJ2K: yep
[23:20] <dr_willis> WallyJ2K,  thats what my nvidia config tool does...
[23:20] <WallyJ2K> gotcha
[23:20] <WallyJ2K> I'l give that a try
[23:21] <WallyJ2K> I guess my main problem is that I have to build the sections from scratch, rather than ust editing them
[23:21] <DasEi> WallyJ2K: which g-card ?
[23:21] <WallyJ2K> ATI Radeon Mobility U1
[23:21] <urlin2u> photon, no I don't think so, actually there is no true random number generators only psuedo ones.  pwgen can be run with different commands to get some pretty good ones though
[23:22] <DasEi> WallyJ2K: a very basic xorg you get if you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:22] <urlin2u> photon, there are others I know of none that are mouse activated except trucrypt
[23:22] <ubuntu> hay
[23:22] <intrader> DasEi, the text thing is greek to me. Add Printer? why do I need to add printer?. Find New printers? (Finds no printers). Add printer wants authentication - which would surely screw up the mac printer
[23:22] <DasEi> WallyJ2K: case that is a hassle next boot, simply delete it from tty then
[23:22] <photon> urlin2u: isn't something like mouse movements truely random, because they are not deterministic?
[23:22] <WallyJ2K> k... I'll try that. Gotta run... Pizza man is here....
[23:23] <ubuntu> is there a way t turn my live usb stick in to a none live stick ?
[23:23] <urlin2u> photon, https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm  for information.
[23:23] <aeon-ltd> ubuntu: you mean persistent?
[23:23] <ubuntu> i think so yea
[23:24] <bazhang> !usb > ubuntu
[23:24] <ubuntu> im guessing i have to make a partition in the live usb
[23:24] <photon> urlin2u: oh yea, I was looking for the GRC page, didn't find it myself.
[23:24] <intrader> DasEi, why can't this be done with the applet?
[23:24] <mneptok> photon: look at SPRNG libraries
[23:24] <DasEi> intrader: you have to announce the printer, you made shared in elinks-mac I assume and -idk- told mac to allow it, use the troubleshooter to find it
[23:24] <urlin2u> photon, you can make one really long but it seems truly random is nul, not sure really.
[23:25] <ubuntu> ubottu so this means i can use the usb stick on another computer and i still have my files in ?
[23:25] <ubuntu> oops
[23:25] <ubuntu> lol
[23:25] <bazhang> ubuntu, yes, read the link
[23:25] <ubuntu> true
[23:25] <urlin2u> ubuntu, you can do a full install if the thumb is big enough, more stable.
[23:25] <ubuntu> ty
[23:25] <ubuntu> ah im guessing i have to boot on my ubuntu now lol
[23:26] <ubuntu> brb
[23:28] <vacho> anony have experience with webmin? please contact me please!!
[23:28] <Pici> !webmin
[23:28] <dr_willis> best webmin advice.. stop using it.. try the alternatives. or learn to confog stuff by hand. :)
[23:28] <dr_willis> !ebox
[23:28] <vacho> how do I check free space on ubuntu??
[23:29] <dr_willis> vacho,   'df -h' for disk free space.
[23:29] <vacho> thanks!
[23:30] <Colby_> On installer with AMD Athlon II X4 640 processor I get "Exception Processing Message 0x0000013 Parameters 0x75A892A0 0x0000004 0x75A892aA0....
[23:30] <Colby_> Why?
[23:32] <Colby_> Title of error mesage is "Windows - No DIsk"
[23:32] <kingofswords> my sounds has gone in wine
[23:33] <dr_willis> Colby_,  you are refering to the Os Installer from the live cd?
[23:33] <Colby_> The windows installer
[23:34] <dr_willis> Colby_,  you mean the WUBI installer on windows?
[23:34] <Colby_> I also dl'd the CD and burned it, and it boots, but just sits there with underline cursor in upper left and does nothing
[23:34] <Colby_> yes, the wubi
[23:35] <blocky> I've got two hard drives being recognized as a single one in ubuntu livecd, could that be set in my bios? mobo supports raid1,5,6 and 10
[23:36] <culler> just installed an asus xonar essence stx, but its not being recognized, when I type in aplay -l, it says no sound cards found
[23:36] <ubuntu> what step do i have to follow if i want to make the live usb work as a perminant distro  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[23:36] <ubuntu> like on usb
[23:36] <ubuntu> not on my computer hd
[23:37] <urlin2u> ubuntu, the Ubutu , and uney=tbootin wil do it ot the multisytem listed at pendrive
[23:37] <urlin2u> unetbootin*
[23:37] <gnagno> hello all
[23:37] <Xofrats> Where would be the best place to attempt to troubleshoot a bug with the crosscompiler?
[23:37] <ubuntu> urlin2u i dont mean to install a live usb
[23:37] <ubuntu> i mean to turn the live usb in to a normal distr
[23:37] <urlin2u> ubuntu, I know
[23:37] <ubuntu> so i can use the usb anywere
[23:37] <ubuntu> oh
[23:37] <ubuntu> unetbootin i have yes
[23:37] <urlin2u> ubuntu, that is a full install normal.
[23:38] <gnagno> I am trying to connect to my wireless from the terminal, if I issue iwconfig wlan0 essid "netgear" then I issue just iwconfig the essid is not set, is this normal ?
[23:38] <blachovski> siema
[23:38] <ubuntu> i mean like turning mu usb in to a distro
[23:38] <blachovski> gabriellllllla
[23:39] <urlin2u> ubuntu, the persistent or full install should boot anywhere, the persistent has a casper-rw file not accessible basically for cleaning wiy=thout a bit of work.
[23:39] <imka> :)
[23:40] <ubuntu> huh
[23:40] <ubuntu> lol
[23:40] <ubuntu> no i dont want it as my primary os
[23:40] <Tech_Support> I had is a question
[23:41] <urlin2u> ubuntu, honestly I don't think you understand.
[23:41] <ubuntu> i think i dont
[23:41] <ubuntu> lol
[23:41] <urlin2u> ;)
[23:41] <ubuntu> ok i have a live usb i made
[23:41] <ubuntu> but i dont want it to be live
[23:42] <ubuntu> and i still want it to be n my usb
[23:42] <urlin2u> ubuntu, the persistent is reading the ISO always with any updates, kernels can cause problems, a full install run like a regular more stable, and faster boot.
[23:42] <TaQ> hi! are the Ubuntu servers very slow today? I tried a local mirror and the main server, but still less than 1K/s :-(
[23:42] <konsumer> TaQ, what OS did you want to download?
[23:42] <TaQ> other network operations are fine, btw
[23:42] <urlin2u> TaQ, change the mirror
[23:42] <konsumer> I'll get you another mirror
[23:43] <konsumer> or were you updating ?
[23:43] <ubuntu> s its not a god idea to make the live usb in to a pendrive ?
[23:43] <ubuntu> good*
[23:43] <ubuntu> u lost me lolll
[23:43] <TaQ> konsumer, urlin2u, I'm trying to make a clean install upgrading the packages while installing, on the desktop, and trying to updating my laptop, already tried archive.ubuntu.com and the local Brazilian mirror, still too slow :-(
[23:43] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  into a pendrive? You can do a "live/persistant" install to a flash drive.. or a normal/full install to a flash drive.. depends on your needs.
[23:44] <bazhang> ubuntu, thats what its for. please read the actual links
[23:44] <konsumer> most Brazil links are slow
[23:44] <bazhang> !usb | ubuntu please read this time
[23:44] <DasEi> ubuntu: there are different way, persistant or not, as an installer or as a live-cd
[23:44] <ubuntu> dr_willis i think thats wat urlin2u was trlling me
[23:44] <dr_willis> Live/persisnt save flash drive intalls are handy for some tasks.. but for long term ussage.. they can have issues.
[23:44] <konsumer> try the Texas or Phoenix mirrors
[23:44] <TaQ> konsumer, that's why I changed to archive.ubuntu.com for testing :-)
[23:44] <TaQ> ok
[23:44] <urlin2u> ubuntu, a full install to a thumb is fine the older thumbs had write limitations.
[23:44] <ubuntu> i want a normal full install on a flash drive
[23:44] <ubuntu> s i can use the flash drive on other computers
[23:44] <ubuntu> as a linux dostro
[23:44] <konsumer> i use those for my 2Gbit line, when selling another vpn
[23:45] <bazhang> !enter | ubuntu
[23:45] <konsumer> installs in minutes
[23:45] <konsumer> gtg, bbl, peace
[23:45] <urlin2u> ubuntu, boot the live cd point the install at the thumb and the grub location, use the other=custom install at the where do you want it gui
[23:45] <TaQ> let me see ...
[23:46] <ubuntu> so when it asks me were to install i choose other
[23:46] <ubuntu> and look for the usb drive
[23:47] <Colby_> CD just has blinking underscore cursor. wht am i supposed to see?
[23:47] <urlin2u> ubuntu, yeah then in the dropdown for grub make sure it is the thumb, and click the thumb partition choose ext4, format and mount /
[23:47] <dr_willis> ubuntu,  basically..  last few times here.. it defaulted to the usb,.., if you want to be really 'safe' remove all other hd's from the system. :)  so you just have the flash drive plugged in.
[23:47] <TaQ> ouch, ftp.texas.edu is blazing fast!
[23:47] <urlin2u> TaQ, everythings big in TEXAS. ;)
[23:48] <TaQ> urlin2u, ;-)
[23:48] <Colby_> dr_willis: any suggestions for CD that doesn't boot or WUBI installer hangs?
[23:49] <TaQ> thanks dudes, will update my laptop and wait for the desktop ... is there any way to change the server when installing?
[23:49] <urlin2u> Colby_, you trying the f12 option at boot at trying the cd, or another key prompt for the boot from menu outside of the bios
[23:49] <dr_willis> Colby_,  install from flash drive.   I wouldent touch wubi at all.. all else fails..  run ubuntu in virtualbox..
[23:49] <aof> quit
[23:49] <iceroot> what is the difference between "foo" and "[foo]" in top (if using "c" to see full command-path)
[23:49] <Colby_> when CD is in the drive, it doesn't ask where to boot from. It just boots
[23:50] <dr_willis> Colby_,  use your bios settings/f keys to tell it to boot the cd.. OR you burnt the cd wrong...
[23:50] <urlin2u> Colby_, try powering on and hitting the f12 key.
[23:50] <dr_willis> Colby_,  how did you burn the cd?
[23:50] <mayko> I am having a hellacious time trying to get a microphone to work in xubuntu; the mic doesn't even show up in any of the mixer programs. Any thoughts?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> mayko: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[23:52] <Sterist> how do i remove software left over from Wine?
[23:52] <Sterist> uninstalling wine did not get rid of it
[23:52] <dr_willis> Sterist,  of course not.. its in the users home directory.
[23:52] <mayko> ActionParsnip: all one line?
[23:52] <urlin2u> mayko, have you tried looking on the web with the mic make and ubuntu?
[23:52] <urlin2u> or xubuntu
[23:52] <dr_willis> Sterist,  check the .wine dir and the .config dir for the apps and icons and files.
[23:52] <th0r> Sterist: it will all be on the c drive, in ~/.wine
[23:53] <Sterist> will it be safe to just delete the entire folder? if wine has already been uninstalled
[23:53] <Sterist> i tried removing the software thru wine n after reboot it's all still there
[23:53] <dr_willis> Sterist,  yes.. that may not get all the menu icons.. they are in some other dir i recall
[23:53] <urlin2u> mayko, mike make-model
[23:53] <Colby_> F12 boot worked dr_willis. so far...shows ubuntu loading screen with ubuntu name and cycling dots
[23:53] <urlin2u> =model*
[23:53] <aj00200> Are there plans to get Firefox 6 into natty soon or should I install a PPA?
[23:54] <dr_willis> !ff6
[23:54] <urlin2u> aj00200, pa probably.
[23:54] <urlin2u> ppa
[23:54] <dr_willis> no new factoid yet. :)
[23:54] <dr_willis> !ff
[23:54] <aj00200> ok, thanks
[23:54] <Gunz4MiPPle> aj00200: i read today it will be in the repos later tonight
[23:54] <rww> !ff5
[23:54] <rww> ah.
[23:54] <mayko> urlin2u: yes I have been cruising the intarnets, have found nothing useful thusfar. Mike is a Creative HS600 headset
[23:54] <aj00200> Gunz4MiPPle: oh, thanks cool. I can wait that long.
[23:54] <Sterist> dr_willis how do i get rid of the icons?
[23:55] <dr_willis> ill stick to chrome for now. :)
[23:55] <dr_willis> Sterist,  they are in some directory in your home dir...
[23:55] <Gunz4MiPPle> aj00200: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/08/firefox-6-officially-released/
[23:56] <Tech_Support> how do I get both graphics cards enabled on ubuntu?
[23:56] <dr_willis> menu customization seems to be in .config/menus here
[23:56] <mayko> ActionParsnip: I think this is what you want? http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=78131f665ca261bf8730fc24e342a8a469f0d6f6
[23:56] <Sterist> dr_willis would removing them remove the entries into Other?
[23:56] <dr_willis> nice how most settings are gettting moved to .config   cleans up your home.
[23:56] <dr_willis> Sterist,  pay attention to what you remove.. when in doubt.. move them somewhere so you canb move them back
[23:58] <aj00200> Gunz4MiPPle: ok, thanks for the info.
[23:59] <GOMI> if i connect a "second" monitor my ubuntu doesnt start at all ?? how is that possible , i want to do a dual screen
[23:59] <Tech_Support> does it connect to the same graphics card?
[23:59] <aaas> I don't have a taskbar (ubuntu classic 11.04, no effects) when i boot in with nomachine (does work with vnc, normal login), is there a way to force load the taskbar?