| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| jjesse-netbook | ok quick question as i am working on documention, is Muon the default package manager in Oneric? | 02:12 |
|---|---|---|
| yofel | it is, as in both muon and muon-installer are installed by default | 02:14 |
| jjesse-netbook | awesome thanks yofel | 02:14 |
| jjesse-netbook | ok another question then running the ntebook version and in kate when i go file and then S for save nothing happens | 02:16 |
| jjesse-netbook | seems the secondary level dont work... file s for save or file q for quit doesnt work in Kate | 02:16 |
| ScottK | jjesse-netbook: Sounds like it needs a bug filed on bugs.kde.org. It's certainly not on purpose. | 02:32 |
| jjesse-netbook | ScottK: thanks its seems like i had this problem some previous releases ago | 02:32 |
| jjesse-netbook | under what package/option would i file fis? | 02:32 |
| ScottK | kate is it's own package in kde4.7. | 02:33 |
| jjesse-netbook | ok back | 02:33 |
| jjesse-netbook | looks like it is only affecting kate | 02:33 |
| jjesse-netbook | ok reported this to bugs: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280236 | 02:46 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 280236 in general "problems with second level menu options" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 02:46 |
| Quintasan | Morning | 07:30 |
| bambee | morning | 07:39 |
| stefan | hi guys - this is probably old news for you but i didn't find a bug-report | 07:54 |
| stefan | with today's updates i can't log in anymore | 07:54 |
| stefan | kdm shows a message-box with a warning | 07:54 |
| stefan | about qdbus - i found this in kdm.log: | 07:54 |
| stefan | klauncher(3467) kdemain: No DBUS session-bus found. Check if you have started the DBUS server. | 07:55 |
| stefan | kdeinit4: Communication error with launcher. Exiting! | 07:55 |
| stefan | 07:55 | |
| stefan | (i'm using 11.10) | 07:55 |
| bambee | I've probably dreamed , but a while ago a phonon video thumbnailer existed... no? | 08:11 |
| _StefanS_ | morning | 08:12 |
| _StefanS_ | I noticed a bug in the recent update to libqt4-dbus package, /usr/bin/qdbus is missing | 08:13 |
| _StefanS_ | not sure who's managing this part | 08:14 |
| _StefanS_ | or package | 08:14 |
| bambee | ohh you can use phonon via mplayerthumbs :) | 08:14 |
| stefan | _StefanS_: same problem for me | 08:14 |
| _StefanS_ | I just took the old ubuntu4 package and copied the qdbus file in manually | 08:15 |
| stefan | _StefanS_: no answer yet, though... we'll just have to wait ;) | 08:15 |
| _StefanS_ | then it works | 08:15 |
| _StefanS_ | stefan: are they aware of this ? | 08:15 |
| _StefanS_ | I like your name btw. | 08:15 |
| stefan | _StefanS_: hehe ;) i wrote a couple of minutes ago - no answer. then again, this is of course not the right place for bug reports | 08:16 |
| _StefanS_ | yea you're right, maybe we should spam kubuntu-devel mailinglist instead :D | 08:16 |
| stefan | actually, with your info on the package i can file a bug-report on launchpad | 08:17 |
| _StefanS_ | oh please do if you have the time | 08:18 |
| _StefanS_ | stefan: I think its simply some builderror noone noticed | 08:18 |
| _StefanS_ | stefan: or a patch that omits the actual binary | 08:18 |
| stefan | _StefanS_: its actually more or less solved already: percentage <= min_community_part_ | 08:18 |
| stefan | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/827815 | 08:19 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 827815 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Can't log into KDE, with error: Could not start D-bus, can you call qdbus?" [Undecided,New] | 08:19 |
| stefan | sorry for the garbage before... | 08:19 |
| _StefanS_ | err I'm going to comment on that | 08:19 |
| _StefanS_ | having qt4-dev-tools installed for normal operation sounds wrong | 08:20 |
| _StefanS_ | stefan: thanks - I'm off ! | 08:21 |
| bambee | it's me or... mplayerthumbsconfig does absolutly NOTHING ? | 08:42 |
| jussi | ubiquity from the build of the 15th doesnt seem to work. | 08:43 |
| ulmlogger | bambee: i dont even know what it is | 08:55 |
| bambee | ulmlogger: seriously? it has been released with kde-multimedia | 08:55 |
| bambee | it does not work here | 08:55 |
| bambee | ulmlogger: it's a kioslave for video thumbnailing | 08:56 |
| ulmlogger | well | 08:56 |
| ulmlogger | config? | 08:56 |
| bambee | with two backends | 08:56 |
| bambee | mplayer and phonon | 08:56 |
| ulmlogger | the thumb aint called config :P | 08:56 |
| ulmlogger | also the code is crapz(tm) | 08:56 |
| * ulmlogger was -->>this<<-- close to propose removal from kdemm | 08:56 | |
| bambee | mplayerthumbsconfig does not work | 08:57 |
| bambee | it uses a kconfigdialog (to use the kcfg class correctly), I don't see the "settingsChanged" signal connected nor MplayerThumbsCfg::writeConfig() called... | 08:59 |
| ulmlogger | wtf is it for? | 08:59 |
| ulmlogger | and why and when and how? | 08:59 |
| ulmlogger | wtf | 09:00 |
| bambee | mplayerthumbsconfig is the gui used the select the video backend (mplayer/phonon) and to configure the kcfg class correctly | 09:01 |
| bambee | s/the select/to select/ | 09:01 |
| kubotu | bambee meant: "mplayerthumbsconfig is the gui used to select the video backend (mplayer/phonon) and to configure the kcfg class correctly" | 09:01 |
| bambee | additionnally you can clean the thumbnails cache... etc... | 09:01 |
| bambee | install mplayerthumbs and test it (using phonon as backend) | 09:02 |
| bambee | it does not work :) | 09:02 |
| bambee | (change the backend does not work too) | 09:02 |
| ulmlogger | bambee: because it is kaput | 09:06 |
| ulmlogger | the thumbers should all be removed | 09:06 |
| ulmlogger | and replaced with a phonon backend | 09:06 |
| bambee | I agree | 09:06 |
| bambee | ulmlogger: mplayerthumbs use VideoWidget::snapshot() (which is not implemented in pvlc nor pgst) | 09:56 |
| bambee | uses * | 09:56 |
| bambee | it should use videodataoutput imho | 09:57 |
| === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 | ||
| bulldog98 | Riddell: Name = Jonathan Kolberg | 10:36 |
| bulldog98 | Affiliation = Kubuntu Ninja | 10:36 |
| Riddell | congrats on your celebrity status bulldog98, nice article on dot news :) | 10:38 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: thanks | 10:41 |
| debfx | fabo: I'd like to convert gtk2-engines-oxygen to multiarch which requires moving the binaries to a new package | 13:16 |
| debfx | can we agree on a package name? gtk2-engines-oxygen-tools? | 13:16 |
| fabo | debfx: -bin | 13:19 |
| fabo | we have a bunch of packages prefixed -bin | 13:20 |
| debfx | fabo: ok, works for me | 13:20 |
| fabo | s/prefixed/suffixed ;) | 13:21 |
| * debfx has already purged ia32-libs :-) | 13:21 | |
| stanley_robertso | hi all | 14:12 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, ping | 14:49 |
| rbelem | ScottK, ping | 14:56 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: pong | 14:58 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, :-) | 14:59 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, could you merge https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime-active-4.7 ? | 14:59 |
| Quintasan | I can merge it once I get home | 15:00 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, ulmlogger acked | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | I see. | 15:00 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, oki :-) | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | I will merge and upload | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | or I think ScottK has to upload | 15:00 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, thks :-) | 15:00 |
| * Quintasan is not sure on who is uploading after FFe | 15:00 | |
| rbelem | Quintasan, maybe only ScottK | 15:01 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Do we have FFe for runtime? | 15:01 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, yup | 15:01 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-runtime/+bug/827283 | 15:02 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 827283 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu) "kde-runtime needs to be updated" [Undecided,New] | 15:02 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Awesome, could you also do FFe for s-l-c and plasma-mobile? | 15:02 |
| Quintasan | I will review and ack and ScottK can just upload | 15:03 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i will do that right now | 15:03 |
| Quintasan | Great. | 15:03 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, lets add contour too | 15:03 |
| rbelem | :-) | 15:03 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, they announced today i think | 15:03 |
| * Quintasan has to get another FFe for workspace with KWin GL ES as well | 15:03 | |
| Quintasan | Hmm, I am not sure if we want contour in repo | 15:04 |
| * Quintasan would like PPA better | 15:04 | |
| shadeslayer | yeah, i'd go with a PPA too | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | i've seen contour ... not so stable | 15:05 |
| rbelem | :'( | 15:06 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Besides, PPA can be updated whenever you want | 15:06 |
| Quintasan | You can't really do that with archive | 15:06 |
| rbelem | that's the good side | 15:06 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: While you are at FFe, could you file one for kde-workspace and link the bug no. here? | 15:07 |
| * Quintasan is at driving license course right now | 15:07 | |
| rbelem | Quintasan, yup ;-) | 15:07 |
| Quintasan | Thanks! | 15:08 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, you are very welcome :-) | 15:08 |
| Quintasan | That would be getting much more done for oneeyerick | 15:08 |
| Quintasan | Too bad we are doing it after feature freeze :P | 15:09 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, there isn't how to do that before | 15:14 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: i uploaded TH last night, went to sleep late doing the pakcage... today is digikam2 turn | 15:15 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: sorry for the delay :P i had a few packaging problems | 15:16 |
| Quintasan | I myself didn't finish kwin gles up until today :) | 15:31 |
| debfx | fabo: do we even need those oxygen-gtk programs? oxygen-gtk-deco seem to be broken, whatever it's supposed to be doing | 15:33 |
| Quintasan | duh | 15:52 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: lol, Im at the course and I forgot to turn off sounds, suddenly: I AM BULLETPROOF | 15:52 |
| Quintasan | someone sent me a text message | 15:52 |
| fabo | debfx: demo is useless, dunno for deco. we could ask upstream | 15:56 |
| * ulmlogger thinks ScottK is supposed to start a shitstorm WRT breaking qt | 16:01 | |
| ulmlogger | bulldog98: pingpingpingopgp0ingoignpoigong | 16:04 |
| ulmlogger | {@!!!E!! | 16:04 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: What exactly was broken? | 16:13 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: pong | 16:15 |
| ulmlogger | bulldog98: we need kubuntu tablet | 16:16 |
| ulmlogger | ASAP | 16:16 |
| ulmlogger | so | 16:16 |
| ulmlogger | Quintasan: dunno, qdbus was moved around, see mail on kubuntu-devel | 16:17 |
| ulmlogger | bulldog98: so, I have default settings semi-ready, if you could make sure that we get the packages in with help from Quintasan that would be super awesome | 16:17 |
| ulmlogger | also bulldog98 or Quintasan should poke cjwatson so that we get a tablet image going | 16:17 |
| Quintasan | Oh, ScottK told me to work with slangasek on it but I wasn't able to irc much until 17 | 16:17 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: When I'm supposed to ping him to get tablet image rolling? | 16:20 |
| ulmlogger | Quintasan: now ^^ | 16:23 |
| Quintasan | lol | 16:23 |
| ulmlogger | Quintasan: I guess we'll need a seed and then he can do the setup in ubuntu-cd and stuff | 16:24 |
| Quintasan | Do we have a seed? | 16:24 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK actually might know the process of getting an image better than me | 16:24 |
| ulmlogger | Quintasan: not yet | 16:24 |
| ulmlogger | Quintasan: for now we could just use desktop as the seed, I suppose we should talk about the relations between seeds | 16:25 |
| ulmlogger | I think that tablet should be part of the mobile seed branch | 16:25 |
| ulmlogger | Quintasan: actually cancel that | 16:25 |
| ulmlogger | hold on | 16:25 |
| ulmlogger | let me think | 16:25 |
| Quintasan | How about you do that? | 16:25 |
| * ulmlogger is busy with phonon and kde stuff unfortunately | 16:25 | |
| ulmlogger | also I'll need to get the settings done as bulldog98 and I are the only people with a tablet | 16:26 |
| ulmlogger | Quintasan: so it might make sense to simply merge tablet into mobile and perhaps rename mobile | 16:26 |
| * bulldog98 hasn’t got too much time, since my grandma is visiting us | 16:27 | |
| ulmlogger | as both require touch-enabled interfaces it would make sense to be the same image, or at least in the same seed branch (as we had with netbook and desktop) | 16:27 |
| * ulmlogger waves fist at bulldog98 | 16:27 | |
| ulmlogger | well, doing settings now | 16:27 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: but I’ll do as much as possible | 16:27 |
| ulmlogger | Quintasan: lets wait with the seeds until ScottK is available so we can talk this over | 16:27 |
| ulmlogger | bulldog98: you just need to delegate the upload process and stuff :P | 16:28 |
| * ulmlogger tests his settings package | 16:28 | |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: send it too me, cause the current one doesn’t works well | 16:29 |
| debfx | fabo: deco just displays two weird windows. seems to be a test tool for window decorations | 16:29 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: How are FFe's? | 16:31 |
| markey | good evening from Ulm :) | 16:32 |
| markey | ulmlogger (Harald Sitter) is sitting next to me | 16:32 |
| Quintasan | We kinda noticed that :P | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 16:33 |
| bulldog98 | Quintasan: +1 | 16:33 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/828111 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/828159 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/828093 | 16:35 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 828111 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] share-like-connect" [Undecided,New] | 16:35 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 828159 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "kde-workspace needs latest kwin-gles" [Undecided,New] | 16:35 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 828093 in plasma-mobile (Ubuntu) "plasma-mobile needs to be updated" [Undecided,New] | 16:35 |
| rbelem | :-) | 16:35 |
| Quintasan | Awesome | 16:35 |
| * Quintasan is building kwin-gles and testing it | 16:35 | |
| * rbelem goes to lunch | 16:36 | |
| shadeslayer | "Team to pring the power of plasma active to Kubuntu." | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer | fun | 16:37 |
| Quintasan | pring? | 16:37 |
| Quintasan | :O | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer | hehe ;P | 16:37 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: that one is good :) | 16:39 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: fix it on your team lp page | 16:39 |
| Quintasan | How am I responsible for THAT? | 16:40 |
| Quintasan | I'm not even a member :P | 16:40 |
| Quintasan | yofel: ^^ | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer | hahah :P | 16:41 |
| Quintasan | and kde-workspace runs with -j1 | 16:46 |
| Quintasan | I wonder wtf | 16:46 |
| Quintasan | mgraesslin: ping | 16:46 |
| mgraesslin | Quintasan: pong | 16:46 |
| Quintasan | mgraesslin: Is it possible to build only kwin and kwineffects from whole kde-workspace or one would need to patch the source? | 16:47 |
| mgraesslin | you need the kde-workspace libraries around | 16:47 |
| mgraesslin | if you have that you can run cmake in workspace directory and afterwards compile only kwin | 16:48 |
| Quintasan | Well, now I'm essentialy double-building workspace but in another directory | 16:48 |
| Quintasan | mgraesslin: compile kde-workspace -> install it -> go to debian/build-kwin-gles -> build workspace with GLES -> install to debian/tmp-kwin-gles <--- that's how we do it now (in short) | 16:50 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 16:50 |
| Quintasan | That won't work too | 16:50 |
| mgraesslin | the easiest solution is to pull the build system changes from master | 16:51 |
| Quintasan | How do they work? | 16:51 |
| mgraesslin | it builds kwin twice: once as kwin and once as kwin_gles binary | 16:52 |
| Quintasan | :O | 16:52 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: ^^^ | 16:52 |
| Quintasan | Can we somehow magically patch the source and think it will go unnoticed? | 16:53 |
| mgraesslin | but it's only a temporary solution till kwin can load the right backend at runtime | 16:53 |
| Quintasan | Well, now I'm DOUBLE building the whole workspace | 16:53 |
| Quintasan | :S | 16:53 |
| * mgraesslin does that all the time in the CI system | 16:54 | |
| Quintasan | mgraesslin: Well, that temporary solution is better than building whole workspace, would be the diff to source code big? | 16:57 |
| mgraesslin | mostly CMake files are changed | 16:57 |
| Quintasan | Hmmmmmm. | 16:59 |
| mgraesslin | Quintasan: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/101979/ | 16:59 |
| CIA-52 | [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Rohan Garg * 117 * bin/astyle-kubuntu Update arguments passed to astyle for astyle versions 2.01 and upwards | 16:59 |
| mgraesslin | and https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102002/ | 16:59 |
| mgraesslin | but the kwineffects library has been split into kwineffects and kwingl(es)utils libraries | 17:00 |
| Quintasan | GLES doesn't work with NVIDIA driver? | 17:00 |
| mgraesslin | yes | 17:00 |
| mgraesslin | in 4.7 there is still GL code in kwineffects | 17:00 |
| mgraesslin | so you would have to change the patches to keep one library and build just kwineffects twice | 17:01 |
| Quintasan | mgraesslin: IS there a list of working drivers? | 17:01 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: what have you installed on your tablet an modified? | 17:04 |
| bulldog98 | to get it working | 17:05 |
| mgraesslin | Quintasan: no, radeon works fine, nouveau sometimes, Intel mostly | 17:05 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ \o/ | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | now if only radeon could ... wait a minute | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | ZOMG | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | ulmlogger: bulldog98 yofel NO MORE AMD UNSUPPORTED HARDWARE OVERLAY | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | booya | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | i just noticed that :P | 17:07 |
| ulmlogger | bulldog98: plasma-mobile & runtime & libs & share-like-connect | 17:10 |
| ulmlogger | settings will be up in a bit | 17:10 |
| ulmlogger | currently having dinnger | 17:10 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: have you added the PPA? | 17:11 |
| ulmlogger | nope | 17:11 |
| ulmlogger | all from git | 17:11 |
| debfx | ScottK: do I need a FFe to build gtk2-engines-oxygen for multiarch? | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: question, i don't understand why we need to re/build packages for multiarch | 17:18 |
| Quintasan | IT'S ALIVE | 17:18 |
| shadeslayer | i mean, all multiarch does is give x86_64 users access to x86 packages right? | 17:18 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Were patched kdelibs uploaded? I want to testbuild s-l-c before advocating | 17:22 |
| Quintasan | We have to wait for ScottK anyways, since only he can do anything about uploading | 17:24 |
| * shadeslayer wonders whats the best way to strangle DBus | 17:27 | |
| micahg | debfx: I can tell you that slangasek has requested and FFe in the past for multiarch since it has the potential to break other applications that use the package in question | 17:32 |
| micahg | shadeslayer: multiarch changes where files are stored on the fs which can break applications which make improper assumptions about file locations | 17:34 |
| shadeslayer | oh .. | 17:34 |
| shadeslayer | did i mention the new apport package is broken? | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.kde.org/110857/ | 17:36 |
| micahg | shadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/apport/1.21.3-0ubuntu4 | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | aw | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | i already fixed that myself | 17:41 |
| bambee | ulmlogger: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/desktop-summit-akademy-guadec-group-photo-2011.html <-- where are you? | 17:47 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: oh fun, fixing | 17:57 |
| shadeslayer | yeah :P | 17:57 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: wait, what are you talking about? | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | neon? | 17:58 |
| yofel | no, 'pring' :P | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 17:58 |
| * bambee has a new game... "where is harald?"... the goal is simple, you must find harald on the ds photo in 5 minutes... good luck :P | 17:59 | |
| bambee | the winner wins a cookie, a beer and a chocolate :D | 18:00 |
| yofel | bambee: make that find rohan, more of a challange :P | 18:06 |
| bambee | mouarf :P | 18:07 |
| bambee | indeed...actually I've only found Riddell, valorie and you | 18:07 |
| bambee | trying to find lydia too... | 18:12 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 18:12 |
| shadeslayer | i'm hidden behind Vishesh Handa xD | 18:12 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, it is in the https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa | 18:18 |
| Quintasan | nope, it is on REVU | 18:18 |
| Quintasan | new packages are on revu | 18:18 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, about the kdelibs | 18:18 |
| Quintasan | ppa packages are not really a material to submit imo | 18:18 |
| Quintasan | oh | 18:19 |
| rbelem | #:-D | 18:19 |
| Quintasan | we need it in archive | 18:19 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, to testbuild slc | 18:19 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: You've got a nice business card | 18:47 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Can one use Ubuntu font for business cards? | 18:57 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, business card? | 19:01 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i uploaded latest slc to revu | 19:01 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, the openbossa one? | 19:01 |
| Quintasan | yeah | 19:01 |
| rbelem | :-D | 19:02 |
| * Quintasan suddenly wanted to have his own business card | 19:02 | |
| * yofel needs a kubuntu business card.. | 19:02 | |
| Quintasan | Makes me look professional | 19:02 |
| yofel | +1 ^^ | 19:02 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Use gLabels dude | 19:02 |
| yofel | haven't tried that yet, thanks | 19:03 |
| Quintasan | sheytan did some but I can't no longer find them nor I think printing them would be cost-effective | 19:03 |
| sheytan | Quintasan http://www.sendspace.com/file/n6il10 | 19:07 |
| Quintasan | http://i.imgur.com/88J20.png | 19:14 |
| Quintasan | Here is what I did | 19:14 |
| Quintasan | :P | 19:14 |
| * Quintasan thinks we could include icons for contact info | 19:15 | |
| Quintasan | but I have to go:P | 19:15 |
| Quintasan | brb | 19:15 |
| _Groo_ | gn guys, gonna go home, have digikam2 to upload :P | 19:55 |
| debfx | micahg: moving a gtk2 theme to a multiarch path can't really break applications | 20:00 |
| muntiKubu | can't login to 11.10. kdm is saying 'can't start Dbus. can you call qdbus?'. ?? | 20:00 |
| debfx | muntiKubu: known bug, as a workaround you can install qt4-dev-tools | 20:01 |
| micahg | debfx: in theory it would break anything looking for it in a hardcoded dir | 20:01 |
| muntiKubu | debfx: ok..will try. thnks | 20:01 |
| debfx | micahg: well sure, the theme could stop working but that doesn't really break applications | 20:03 |
| debfx | but I'll just ask for a FFe | 20:03 |
| ScottK | debfx: We've been doing FFe for multi-arch changes. | 20:50 |
| Quintasan | yofel: What do you think about the plain-ol' business card of mine? | 20:56 |
| yofel | ~ok, although I would move the 'kubuntu' to the top right corner | 20:56 |
| yofel | and maybe some font size changes | 20:57 |
| yofel | but not sure there | 20:57 |
| Quintasan | We need designers! | 20:57 |
| * bambee thinks to sheytan | 20:58 | |
| bulldog98 | Quintasan: ping nuno :) | 21:01 |
| bulldog98 | or agateau | 21:01 |
| debfx | ScottK: bug #828360 | 21:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 828360 in gtk2-engines-oxygen (Ubuntu) "FFe: Build for multiarch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/828360 | 21:04 |
| ScottK | debfx: Please attach the diff and then ask slangasek to review. | 21:04 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| bambee | fringe ... this serie rocks... really ... <3 | 21:07 |
| Quintasan | I'm pushing kwin-gles branch, can anyone review? | 21:08 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Can you upload modified kdelibs and runtime? | 21:08 |
| ScottK | After I approve the FFe. | 21:08 |
| ScottK | Did I do that already? | 21:08 |
| Quintasan | Where the hell is Rodrigo? | 21:09 |
| ScottK | I'll probably need a nap anyway. | 21:09 |
| Quintasan | Pullin' a Rodrigo I guess | 21:09 |
| ScottK | Speaking of Rodrigo. | 21:09 |
| Quintasan | Yeah. | 21:09 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/827286 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-runtime/+bug/827283 | 21:09 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 827286 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "kde4libs package needs to be updated" [Undecided,New] | 21:09 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 827283 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu) "kde-runtime needs to be updated" [Undecided,New] | 21:09 |
| Quintasan | Both have ulmlogger's ack | 21:09 |
| Quintasan | Once I'm done with pushing kde-workspace I'll attach a diff to my FFe | 21:10 |
| Quintasan | yofel: pingo | 21:11 |
| yofel | like pongo | 21:11 |
| Quintasan | Feelin' like reviewin' mah gles branch? | 21:11 |
| yofel | sure | 21:12 |
| Quintasan | Now with fixed' library | 21:12 |
| Quintasan | Let me push this stupid branch | 21:12 |
| Quintasan | 20mb lol | 21:12 |
| Quintasan | Someone must have pushed some pornon in there at some point | 21:12 |
| Quintasan | yofel: IMHO the logo should be a little bit smaller :S | 21:13 |
| Quintasan | yofel: How about we get Rodrigo get the guy who designed his business card to design something for us? | 21:15 |
| Quintasan | yofel: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~quintasan/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace/revision/551 | 21:15 |
| Quintasan | This | 21:15 |
| yofel | heh, sure. But IMO the logo is ok, but it's in the wrong corner and the other text is mis-aligned | 21:15 |
| yofel | the card is a tad too... plain though | 21:16 |
| Quintasan | Here is http://i.imgur.com/xvV1q.png | 21:16 |
| yofel | there are ubuntu example cards, those aren't too bad | 21:16 |
| Quintasan | Where? | 21:16 |
| Quintasan | Never seen em' | 21:16 |
| Quintasan | I might steal something | 21:16 |
| * yofel hits the wiki | 21:17 | |
| Quintasan | Oh there | 21:17 |
| Quintasan | ... | 21:17 |
| yofel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BusinessCards | 21:17 |
| Quintasan | "You have won $350000000" from Google Lottery | 21:17 |
| Quintasan | Seems legit. | 21:18 |
| shadeslayer | of course :P | 21:18 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Well, TBH the fonts there look like !@$$%#@ | 21:18 |
| Quintasan | And try printing those :/ | 21:19 |
| yofel | the one from Jacob is nice, but it's missing content | 21:19 |
| Quintasan | rbelem's is black, meaning you get black paper and print the hell out of it | 21:19 |
| shadeslayer | anyone seen this :http://www.markshuttleworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/dash_home_11.10.png ? | 21:19 |
| yofel | I wouldn't go for black, but there's defenitely not enough blue on yours | 21:19 |
| Quintasan | not enough blue? :DDDDD | 21:20 |
| Quintasan | brb fixing | 21:20 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: What is this? Looks like err | 21:20 |
| Quintasan | bleh | 21:20 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 21:20 |
| yofel | well, blue dots with shadow like on plymouth in a corner would look nice (if it fits) | 21:20 |
| shadeslayer | i can't quite figure out wth is being done on the screen :P | 21:21 |
| yofel | that is *far* too translucent and hurts my eyes just looking at it | 21:21 |
| Quintasan | MAKE IT FULL OF RAINBOWS | 21:21 |
| Quintasan | :D | 21:21 |
| === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 | ||
| shadeslayer | altho ... it actually is pretty neat in terms of a touch friendly interface | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | nice large buttons | 21:22 |
| yofel | yeah, but make the dash darker | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | less ... translucent | 21:22 |
| yofel | right, and this "window" border looks gross | 21:23 |
| * Quintasan has no design sense | 21:24 | |
| yofel | agreed :P | 21:25 |
| yofel | then again, mine isn't much better I think | 21:25 |
| Quintasan | yofel: http://i.imgur.com/aBrdz.png I heard you want blue so we put blue in your text so you can poke your eyeballs while you use your eyes | 21:25 |
| * Quintasan does the "No design sense" dance and runs away | 21:25 | |
| yofel | for the fingerprint that's actually not bad... | 21:25 |
| * yofel would've used some gray level | 21:25 | |
| Quintasan | "Close without saving" | 21:26 |
| bulldog98 | Quintasan: actually it looks quite good | 21:26 |
| Quintasan | lol | 21:26 |
| Quintasan | Troll is a art | 21:26 |
| ulmlogger | bambee: no where | 21:27 |
| ulmlogger | I only attended the intersting bits | 21:27 |
| * Quintasan thinks the sheytan ones are nice but printing those would be "Y U SO EXPENSIVE BUSINESS CARDS?!" | 21:28 | |
| bambee | oh ok | 21:28 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~quintasan/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace/revision/551 | 21:28 |
| Quintasan | How does that look? | 21:28 |
| yofel | hm | 21:30 |
| yofel | Conflicts: kde-window-manager (= ${binary:Version}) | 21:30 |
| bulldog98 | Quintasan: link to sheytan’s desing? | 21:30 |
| yofel | are you sure that should be '=' ? | 21:30 |
| Quintasan | Hmm, more like =< | 21:30 |
| yofel | yeah | 21:31 |
| Quintasan | bulldog98: http://www.sendspace.com/file/n6il10 | 21:31 |
| Quintasan | Apart from that? | 21:31 |
| bulldog98 | tnx | 21:32 |
| Quintasan | Ahh, shouldn't kde-window-manager conflict with -gles as well? :S | 21:32 |
| * Quintasan fixes | 21:32 | |
| Quintasan | nope | 21:33 |
| Quintasan | not =< | 21:33 |
| Quintasan | >= :P | 21:33 |
| yofel | er, >= ? | 21:34 |
| yofel | why? | 21:34 |
| Quintasan | greater or equal, right? | 21:34 |
| yofel | well, why greater? | 21:34 |
| yofel | or I'm too tired... | 21:35 |
| Quintasan | If you think like that we can make it = | 21:35 |
| Quintasan | Since you can't have BOTH installed at the same time | 21:35 |
| Quintasan | And you won't get -gles package before that upload | 21:36 |
| Quintasan | :P | 21:36 |
| yofel | IMO <= would be right. Also, looking at the policy you can junk the Breaks part if you use Conflicts | 21:36 |
| * Quintasan drops the breaks then | 21:36 | |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: What the hell I'm supposed to use =< , = or >=? | 21:37 |
| Quintasan | <= lesser or equal | 21:37 |
| Quintasan | ARGH | 21:37 |
| Quintasan | You even made me confused | 21:37 |
| Quintasan | FFS | 21:37 |
| yofel | ^^ | 21:37 |
| bambee | <= lesser or equal than, >= greater or equal than, = exactly equal to , << stricly lesser than | 21:38 |
| * Quintasan goes with >= | 21:39 | |
| Quintasan | I also think we should make libkwineffects conflict with each other | 21:39 |
| Quintasan | really | 21:39 |
| * yofel doesn't get why we need to conflict against future packages, but whatever | 21:40 | |
| Quintasan | brrr | 21:40 |
| * Quintasan drops conflicts on library and testbuilds to see what happens when he installs | 21:40 | |
| yofel | uh, the libs should conflict each other right, but I think it's enough if you add that to one of them | 21:41 |
| Quintasan | final edition is http://paste.kde.org/111085 | 21:41 |
| Quintasan | Only conflicts, right? | 21:41 |
| yofel | conflicts is enough, but the libs should conflict too | 21:42 |
| Quintasan | http://paste.kde.org/111097 | 21:43 |
| yofel | I still don't agree with the >, otherwise fine | 21:44 |
| Quintasan | BRRR | 21:44 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: PING | 21:44 |
| Quintasan | or ScottK | 21:44 |
| Quintasan | One of them should be able to enlighten us | 21:45 |
| bulldog98 | Quintasan: I can’t download that | 21:46 |
| Quintasan | brr | 21:46 |
| Quintasan | bulldog98: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/kubuntu-buisnesscard-dark.svg.tar.gz | 21:46 |
| bulldog98 | Quintasan: thx | 21:47 |
| Quintasan | yofel: IMO, why on Earth should we conflict with EARLIER version you are not going to have? | 21:48 |
| yofel | because you don't want to fix that in the NEXT upload? | 21:48 |
| Quintasan | Hmm | 21:48 |
| Quintasan | Makes sense | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | Let's see what policy says | 21:49 |
| yofel | or rather, if you use >=, and build ubuntu6 and have ubuntu5 installed, it WILL break | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | That makes even more sense | 21:50 |
| Quintasan | Also, why do I have Conflicts on -gles as well? | 21:52 |
| Quintasan | BRRR | 21:52 |
| Quintasan | yofel: <pinheiro> Quintasan: just use our wallpapers and moo | 21:57 |
| Quintasan | :D | 21:57 |
| yofel | lol | 21:58 |
| Quintasan | moo as in http://uk.moo.com/c | 22:01 |
| Quintasan | -c | 22:02 |
| Quintasan | WHERE THE HELL ARE WALLPAPERS IN GIT? | 22:06 |
| yofel | Quintasan: they're in svn | 22:11 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: you can use the Ubuntu font for anything you like (same as any font, there's no copyright law in that regard) | 22:14 |
| Quintasan | oooh Riddell is here | 22:14 |
| Quintasan | :D | 22:14 |
| Riddell | dobry wieczór | 22:15 |
| Quintasan | !!!!!! | 22:15 |
| Riddell | gosh, how do you even begin to pronounce wieczór? | 22:16 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 22:16 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Apparently "This is pronounced as “DOH-brayh VEE-choorh”." | 22:17 |
| Quintasan | I mean, our grammar is even more fck up | 22:18 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/668665/ | 22:22 |
| yofel | yes? | 22:23 |
| yofel | ah thanks | 22:23 |
| Quintasan | yofel: uk.moo.com | 22:24 |
| Quintasan | LOOK AT THE READY DESIGNS | 22:24 |
| Quintasan | SPACE INVADERS | 22:24 |
| * Quintasan orders 1000 | 22:24 | |
| yofel | hehe | 22:25 |
| yofel | hm, they're even affordable | 22:26 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: how do you set ninjas? | 22:28 |
| yofel | I just set ninja=1 when calling pbuilder: sudo -E ninja=1 pbuilder build... | 22:28 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: ok | 22:28 |
| yofel | you need to edit the sources list by hand though after creating the basetgz | 22:29 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: that was what I’m up to right now :) | 22:30 |
| ulmlogger | Quintasan: pong | 22:36 |
| Quintasan | nvm | 22:37 |
| ulmlogger | ok | 22:37 |
| === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech | ||
| Quintasan | yofel: http://i.imgur.com/ku0y3.png | 22:45 |
| Quintasan | FRONT | 22:45 |
| Quintasan | http://i.imgur.com/oF4xR.png | 22:46 |
| Quintasan | back | 22:46 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: Do you has KDE e.V business card? | 22:54 |
| ulmlogger | well, I am e.v. member yet I do not know about it | 22:54 |
| ulmlogger | the e.v. is a big time mess | 22:54 |
| ulmlogger | I blame Nightrose | 22:55 |
| * Quintasan demands Kubuntu business card | 22:56 | |
| Quintasan | I'm not designer-ish enought to get something good looking done | 22:57 |
| * yofel needs some time to think about his design | 22:57 | |
| Quintasan | services over at moo seem to be good | 22:57 |
| Quintasan | for printing | 22:57 |
| Quintasan | just give me a design | 22:57 |
| Quintasan | No matter how you look at it rbelem has superior business card | 22:58 |
| * yofel hasn't seen his | 22:58 | |
| Quintasan | let me scan em | 22:59 |
| * Quintasan abandons the design warship | 22:59 | |
| yofel | I got a redhat and a collabora one at the key signing session | 22:59 |
| yofel | I can't say I like the design much though... | 23:00 |
| yofel | at least not the front | 23:00 |
| Quintasan | yofel: http://i.imgur.com/TBGMt.jpg | 23:02 |
| Quintasan | and http://i.imgur.com/UjbTF.jpg | 23:02 |
| Quintasan | The third one has the other side white so I didn't bother :P | 23:02 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: is icecc fixed in oneiric? | 23:02 |
| yofel | it is | 23:03 |
| bulldog98 | by whom? | 23:03 |
| yofel | Quintasan: hm, not too bad. But not quite my taste either | 23:03 |
| yofel | bulldog98: fabo fixed it in debian and we synced | 23:03 |
| * bulldog98 hugs fabo | 23:04 | |
| Quintasan | no matter where I slap the Kubuntu logo it doesn't somehow fit | 23:05 |
| Quintasan | we might have a crappy logo | 23:05 |
| Quintasan | :S | 23:05 |
| yofel | the 'kubuntu' part is ok, but the tiny icon looks totally off | 23:06 |
| Quintasan | MAKE IT BIGGER | 23:07 |
| Quintasan | BIGGER IS GOOD | 23:07 |
| Quintasan | :S | 23:07 |
| yofel | that looks even more horrible | 23:07 |
| Quintasan | brrr | 23:07 |
| yofel | put the icon at the backside | 23:07 |
| Quintasan | ! | 23:07 |
| Quintasan | You mean | 23:07 |
| Quintasan | white background | 23:07 |
| yofel | although I was wondering if I should put a KDE-ish logo there | 23:08 |
| Quintasan | only the blue gears there in the middle | 23:08 |
| yofel | for example | 23:08 |
| Quintasan | and on the other side your info with kubuntu | 23:08 |
| Quintasan | Meh | 23:08 |
| Quintasan | I'm tired | 23:08 |
| Quintasan | Good night. | 23:08 |
| yofel | gn | 23:08 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, ping | 23:13 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, sleep tight :-) | 23:14 |
| rbelem | ScottK, ping | 23:14 |
| ulmlogger | rbelem: pong | 23:17 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, i will postpone fileshare stuff. afiestaas asked me to work on the kfileplaces | 23:18 |
| ulmlogger | ok | 23:19 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, he thinks that it higher priority | 23:19 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, and it will be ready for 11.10 :-) | 23:20 |
| ulmlogger | I have no idea what kfileplaces is, but if alex thinks it is more important I'll trust his judegment :) | 23:20 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, it is the places from dolphin and file select dialogs | 23:21 |
| ulmlogger | rbelem: ah, the sidebar thing? | 23:21 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, yup | 23:21 |
| ulmlogger | what is there to be done? | 23:22 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, refactoring | 23:22 |
| ulmlogger | I see | 23:22 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, to a better look | 23:22 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, and more networking funcionality | 23:22 |
| ulmlogger | oh, that i really over due | 23:23 |
| ulmlogger | sllll | 23:23 |
| ulmlogger | bleeh, I am drunk :D | 23:23 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, :-D | 23:24 |
| ulmlogger | also I am talking to way too many people at once :D | 23:24 |
| ulmlogger | I blame it all on Ulm, it makes you wanna drink more, pretty horrible I might say :P | 23:25 |
| rbelem | nice :-D ulmlogger is a multi threaded guy | 23:25 |
| rbelem | :-D | 23:25 |
| ulmlogger | multi thread with segfaults :P | 23:25 |
| rbelem | hahahaha | 23:25 |
| * rbelem misses these moments with the kubuntu team | 23:27 | |
| rbelem | :-D | 23:27 |
| yofel | ok, glabels is far too simple of an app for the design I have in mind.. | 23:34 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: write klabels and make it better :P | 23:35 |
| yofel | nah, I think what I have in my mind is complicated enough to require inkscape or krita ^^ | 23:36 |
| rbelem | yofel, do you know if kdelibs and -runtime got uploaded? | 23:37 |
| yofel | no | 23:37 |
| yofel | and no | 23:37 |
| rbelem | :'( | 23:37 |
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