[00:01] Hmm.. alt-f2 dont seem to work for me in gnome-shell... [00:06] worked for me before, well... as in "opened but didn't do anything useful" [00:09] just reading at ... http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/LookingGlass You currently run it by pressing Alt-F2, typing lg, then Return. [00:11] lg? :p [00:11] 'looking glass' [00:12] ohright [00:12] I can see where gnome-shell has a lot of potential.. if nothing else.. it should be easy to 'fix' all the silly design limitations the default gnome-devs stick in it.. [00:12] the same can be said of unity [00:12] in fact i think unity is a better starting point [00:12] but who is going to do it? [00:13] i propose dr_willis ! [00:13] :D [00:13] given the mindset i see commng from caonical.. i think gs is going to be easier to tweak by a few 10000000% :) [00:13] yeah, i think so too :) [00:13] sadly i agree [00:14] * dr_willis recalls some official statement along the lines of 'the osd notififer will NOT be configurable' ..... [00:14] 'we moved the buttons the the left for.... room for windicators ... that havent even been implemented yet.....' [00:14] why can't windicators go on the left? that's what i want to know [00:15] and im not sure if they even will get imnplemnted.. [00:15] and why should i even care about them? what's the point? [00:15] the trend now is to have less menus/buttons at all... [00:15] wow [00:15] gnome-shell looks nice [00:15] first time i install it [00:15] the justification for global menus is basically "menus suck and we want to kill them by making them hard to use" [00:16] Ian_Corne, it works decently well.. they seem to have an obsession with the use of workspacces.. [00:17] hehe [00:17] i wonder [00:17] where are the window buttons in gnome-shell? [00:17] Ian_Corne, does your default gs-theme have a min/max/close buttons? [00:17] no :D [00:17] Mine does.. :) but i messed with gnome-tweak [00:17] so im not sure how default mine is.. [00:17] http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/06/howto-four-tweaks-to-bring-back-missing-functionality-in-gnome-30.ars [00:17] Bringing back the minimize and maximize buttons [00:17] and an ugly title bar for the non-maximized windows [00:18] gnome shell and unity seem to share a lot of settings - so my whole desktop is a bit of a hodge-podge of stuff. :) [00:18] let me take a screen shot [00:18] oho, mr shoe just found out his wife faked having a baby [00:19] !screenshot [00:19] Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. [00:19] :D [00:19] you could also use imgur [00:19] http://imagebin.org/168187 [00:20] the dropdown menus are really nice [00:20] for the indicators [00:20] you dont see in the shot that chrome and the xchat min/max/close are similer.. but differnt. :) [00:20] Im not sure what the obsession with Monocolor icons are these days either.... [00:21] network indicator WOULD be nice if it actally blinked as you got data... thats basically expected these days.. :) [00:22] mine menus are all white/grey on black.. i can barely read the calander in the clock [00:23] one 'thing' i would like to see in gnome shell. is put the 'applications' thang as a hot spot at the bottom left.. its just awkward going to the top left.. THEN back down/right a little bit... [00:23] I want them on the left side now tho :p [00:23] the controls [00:24] I used ubuntu-tweak and gnome-tweak to twiddle with my settings. [00:24] dr_willis, you ever tried gnome-do or synapse. [00:24] used gnome-do for a long time. [00:24] prob. used synapse. i dont recall the name [00:24] !info synapse [00:24] synapse (source: synapse): semantic file launcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 375 kB, installed size 1596 kB [00:24] synapse is like gnome-do I like it better of the 2. [00:25] i really dont use any of those these days.. i got the 5 apps i use on my panel at the left.. and thats about it. [00:27] Prob i found with a lot of the gnome-do/synapse stuff - is theres so many plugins and extas.. and basically.. I cant figure out how to even use them.... [00:27] :) [00:27] I must say, compared to gnome-shell, unity looks less fancy [00:27] but unity is more clear as to what is where [00:27] the whole hidden gui/menus/button mindset... [00:27] but with that logic.. kde is even more clear. :) [00:28] kde is more clear [00:28] but it is also fugly and confusing in other ways [00:28] I just constantly forget/overlook the copy dialogs in kde.. :) [00:28] maybe, but i just don't feel good when using KDE [00:28] it's too much fluff for me, [00:28] and i know I don't have to [00:28] One thing i do normally set up in compiz is where the file/copy dialogs are 'always on top' also try to make them stay at the top right... [00:29] guess it's just something personal [00:29] kde desperately needs someone to make a theme that is actually good, and then go through all the apps and make them use consistent font sizes [00:29] ^^^ [00:29] and fix it so it can actually centre text properly [00:29] horizontally *and* vertically damnit [00:30] ali1234, that has always been my biggest issue with kde,, "fonts" and "theme" both rather bland and unapealling as well as irritating at times [00:30] i totally agree [00:30] one time i tried to make KDE look exactly like 9.04 gnome [00:30] i failed [00:30] lol [00:31] although i got close [00:31] with all the work in 'gui design' and so forth over the years.. you would think every desktop/wm would have learned to make a few 'basic standard' themes.. a light, dark, blue, grey, and perhaps a larger/smaller' standard theme sets... [00:31] ali1234, I believe kde requres a little more powerful a systen than have at th e moment to run properly [00:32] kde is supposed to be able to turn down the eyecandy on the fly, or via settings to match lower end systems. :) [00:32] gnome isn't exactly light either [00:32] icewm! :) [00:32] dr_willis, I agree completely,, [00:32] which is slightly broken in 11.10... poor icewm... [00:32] and has 1000+ themes.. 99.9% of them are totally hidious... [00:33] :) [00:33] I just want a nice light blue/grey/ theme.. with not tiny tiny fonts.... thats easy to read.... [00:33] this grey on black i got in gnome-shell is a bit annoying [00:34] dr_willis, not sure,, does gnome-tweak-tool allow for color changes? maybe gnome-color-chooser? [00:34] coz_, i messed with the theme/settings so much in gnome-tweak im not sure what all i did.. [00:34] i even copyed a few files to my home dir.. [00:34] dr_willis, that I understand :) [00:35] well.. I have decided not to test this version this time,, I think I will just wait until release [00:36] i found some theme from a url that basically went to... .local/share/gnome-shell/extensions but they dident seem to show up [00:36] I did try gnome3 /gnome-shell/and fallback mode,, I was slightly impressed :) [00:37] on fedora that is hope it is nearly as smooth on ubuntu [00:39] I tested with the fedora live cd - it was sluggish. due to the nvidia drivers/noveau drivers... [00:39] what if all these disrtos start falling back to using the 'default vanilla gnome shell' setup! oh the humanity! :) [00:39] coz_: http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/random/hmmkde.png [00:39] that's as close as i could get, and it took me several days [00:40] ali1234, not too bad actually,, [00:40] You can definatly tell the kde 'font' look..... [00:40] :) [00:40] yes and the misaligned text on the task bar [00:40] why oh why did they choose that font / [00:40] that's actually the ubuntu font lol [00:41] kde just does a terrible job of rendering it [00:41] RSS Reader looks 'nasty' :) [00:41] at least i think it is, let me check [00:42] yes, it is [00:42] Now.. do the fonts in the Firefox menu look the same as in the other fonts? [00:42] Ive noticved befor - FF looking a lot differnt for the same text/fonts... [00:42] it looks pretty much the same [00:42] maybe a little cleaner but it's hard to tell [00:43] I had some screen shots once where it was defaintaly noticeable.. [00:45] time to get ready for work... [00:46] bbl [00:52] I installed the 3.1rc2 kernel debs after doing a complete install of lubuntu 11.10. Now, when I try to install flgrx through the additional software dialogue it tells me I have broken packages. I don't seem to have any broken packages. Anyone know anything about this? [00:53] TechnoCat, not sure since my knowledge of ati cards is probably nonexistent,, however, did you try sudo apt-get install -f or open synaptic packages manager under the "Edit" menu "Fix broken packages"? [00:54] yes [00:54] they don't do much because synaptic says there are no broken packages [00:54] TechnoCat, i think you need to find an flgrx package to match your kernel [00:55] okay, i was wondering about taht, because that is the only thing i have changed [00:55] then probably only the package failed to install. I know that at least the nvidia driver has a dkms setting to not build it against kernel >= 3.1 [00:57] is fglrx official ati? [00:57] TechnoCat, yes [00:59] i'll try installing the drivers from the website, but i have never had luck with that in the past [01:00] it's unfortunate my wireless card (ralink 539f) only works with the 3.1 linux kernel [01:03] Okay Unity doesn't seem to work for me in 11.10 as I get these weird black bars overlaying my top panel and left side unity panel... and when I move around sometimes my screen goes black.... Unity 2d works fine though... have a 48XX series aticard with flx drivers installed... known bug or something I can fix? [01:06] nooo, uninstalling fglrx removed gcc too, lol [01:06] well, installing build-essential and the kernel headers should be enough for the driver [01:09] how do i see what graphics driver i'm using? [01:10] TechnoCat, in terminal lspci | grep -i vga [01:10] wno't that just show my current gpu? [01:11] TechnoCat, glxinfo or scanning through xorg.0.log [01:11] TechnoCat, sorry yes,, I was thinking card not driver [01:11] TechnoCat, is it nvidia? [01:11] ati [01:11] TechnoCat, darn,, sorry I gorgot [01:12] not sure then [01:12] forgot [01:14] glxinfo appears to tell me i am still in software mode [01:17] TechnoCat: checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you whatever driver X is using currently [01:17] i don't have an xorg log [01:18] o0 [01:18] yes i do, i'm dumb [01:18] phew [01:18] :) [01:19] anything i should grep this for? [01:20] 12.670] (II) AMD Video driver is running on a device belonging to a group targeted for this release [01:20] read it, it should tell the driver version somewhere. I don't use ati so I don't know what you need to look for [01:20] that looks good [01:20] you can try sudo gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log [01:21] i'm going to restart [01:23] my laptop keyboard has no sys rq key. =[ [01:23] oh wait yes it does, just waasn't labled under print screen === yofel_ is now known as yofel [01:26] my glxinfo output: http://pastebin.com/uBfjvMGS [01:43] i keep getting can't read frame: Invalid argument (0) with tvtime i am currently on ubuntu 11.10 alpha i tried tvtime-configure --norm=ntsc --frequencies=us-cable100 with the hauppuage usb stick i know it's not a driver issue because me-tv works but all i get is a blue and yellow flashing screen anyone with any idea's [01:51] i was trying to switch to tvtime because me-tv i have to rescan channels everytime i want a particular channel and the picture pixels will scatter with some loss of sound [01:52] but me-tv does work in regards to getting cable into the linux OS [01:56] i have a full ubuntu OS no windows at all [01:57] is there a scan for channels anywhere in tvtime? [01:59] ill check back in a few let me look at docs again brb [03:18] hello everyone [03:19] what a warm welcome how do i do a blushing emot? [03:19] i'm gonna go jack off everyone have a nice night [04:09] ... what. [04:10] is it a known bug that the drop down menus intermittently don't appear when i mouse over the top bar? [04:51] kde font rendering is just fine in 11.10 [04:52] in fact, it awesum! [04:52] >:( [04:53] been waiting for them to get it right, and .. tis the season [04:54] very exciting release for kubuntu [04:54] What exciting thing does 4.6 have that 4.5 doesn't? The only difference I've seen is an increased focus on Activities, which I can't get myself to use :P [04:55] Running Ubuntu 11.10 regular Unity gives me black bars over the top panel and unity panel and sometimes the screen goes black... Unity 2d works fine (using it now) any ideas? [04:56] there have been quite a few small changes and then others like muon [which needs work [04:56] and am content with what i see [04:56] Vanillalite: use Unity 2D then! ;-) [04:56] I use aptitude exclusively :S [04:57] anyone had problems with ati drivers and jockey? [04:57] Also if it matters I have a 4830 Ati Card with the FGLXR installed [04:58] I can post a screen shot if need be too :P [05:00] also, rww, 11.10 runs on 4.7 [05:00] :-P [05:01] :-D [05:01] ah, yeah, I was misreading packages.ubuntu.com. You know what I meant :P [05:01] (4.6 to 4.7) [05:02] you should give it your best unbiased look. it might even make you nostalgic since your gnu gnomes look nothing like the good ol' stuff [05:03] and kde pretty much still has the same feel from 4.x series [05:05] jockey is giving me problems trying to install ati propriatery drivers, complaining about held broked packages, i've ran apt-get -f autoremove and autoclean with the same error [05:06] is there an alternate method of installing ati drivers? [05:06] another thing, i got a radeon hd 5450 on this cube and have not found any issues on the gallium 0.4... whoa, am not using the proprietary driver! just figured [05:06] o.0 [05:06] flawless [05:07] and i got acceleration and effects going.. whoa [05:08] sure, its a 2.80ghz pentium, 3gigs of ram.. but still [05:10] quite cool [05:11] no one has had the same jockey problem i'm having? [05:11] !bug [05:11] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [05:20] yah, this looks so good i totally forgot it was gallium i was using [05:20] :D [05:21] any laptop users experience a mouse delay sometimes switching windows, or just randomly using their lappy? [05:22] kyubutsu_kde, where do you set your video driver nowadays? i see theres no xorg.conf [05:24] kickoff>applications>system>additional drivers [05:25] fglrx is sitting there , you run that and that's it [05:25] but am betting you're on gnomunity [05:26] yes [05:26] and jockey won't install that driver [05:27] complaining about broked held packages, but cleaning apt still won't solve the issue [05:28] i say wait for the next update and see what happens [05:28] jockey is known to do things like this in alpha testing [05:28] k how do i tell what driver im using then? [05:29] in the olden days i would check xorg.conf...now i have no clue what driver im using [05:30] to be honest, i have no idea how unity handles stuff lately.. i only tried it for a week for testing [05:32] billybigrigger: although, i think glxgears should throw you some info [05:34] well not having catalyst and ati config sucks [05:35] well it's as fast as glxgears can go 60fps, syncd to the refresh rate [05:36] hmm [05:36] sys info shows me Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS880 [05:37] how do i turn on effects now [06:03] how do i change my video driver? [06:03] im stuck with vesa drivers [06:07] Why does GNOME 3 provide Thunderbird and not Evolution by default? [06:08] bullgard4: Ubuntu provides thunderbird as a default, not GNOME [06:10] micahg: My understanding is that Ubuntu GNOME 2provided by default Evolution but Ubuntu GNOME 3 provides Thunderbird by default. I would like to know what caused this change. [06:10] you understand incorrectly [06:11] popey: Please elaborate. [06:11] bullgard4: Ubuntu oneiric's mail default is Thunderbird, previouionsly it was evolut [06:11] re-read what micahg said [06:11] Ubuntu 11.04 ships Evolution by default [06:11] Ubuntu 11.10 will ship Thunderbird by default [06:11] Ubuntu 11.04 is based on GNOME 2 [06:11] Ubuntu 11.10 is based on GNOME 3 [06:12] but GNOME itself ships evolution, not Thunderbird [06:14] popey: And I would like why Ubuntu ships in Oneiric GNOME 3 Thunderbird although Ubuntu ships in GNOME 2 Evolution by default. [06:14] GNOME also ships epiphany as the default web browser [06:15] bullgard4_: Since Ubuntu started it has tried to ship the best of breed in each category of app [06:15] sometimes that means changing applications [06:15] jbicha: You did not anser my question. [06:15] e.g we switched from Rhythmbox to Banshee [06:15] and now switched from Evolution to Thunderbird [06:16] popey: "The best of breed" is a vage answer. [06:16] bullgard4: the mail default has nothing to do with GNOME versions [06:16] bullgard4_: a number of people over the years have requested thunderbird as the default [06:16] bullgard4_: many times it's been looked at [06:17] for a number of reasons the decision wasn't made to switch in the past [06:17] bullgard4_: please see this blueprint for more information on the choice: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-default-email-client [06:17] bullgard4_: you're welcome to continue using Evolution, many Ubuntu devs still use it [06:18] jbicha: Yes. [06:18] bullgard4_: Ubuntu does not ship everything GNOME does nor does GNOME ship everything Ubuntu does [06:19] bullgard4_: it was discussed at the last Ubuntu Developer Summit [06:22] micahg: Ah! Thank you very much for your help. [06:34] hmm, is mono uninstallable for anyone else? [07:01] Amaranth: When speaking about "installation" one usually means a DEB program package. What package do you speak about? [07:01] uh [07:01] bullgard4_: mono-runtime says it won't install due to mono-gac not being there but mono-gac says it's installed [07:01] haven't checked versions yet, too lazy [07:02] I'll probably go fix it if it's still broken when I was to use banshee [07:04] Amaranth: On my Oneiric computer mono-gac is installed. My Banshee works all right. I do not see a necessity for me to de-install mono-gac version 2.10.3-1 [07:04] Right then, you don't know what I'm talking about. That's fine then [07:05] Amaranth: have fun. === MaWaLe is now known as UBot-Tn === UBot-Tn is now known as MaWaLe === Amaranthus is now known as Amaranth === deegee__ is now known as drussell [08:57] /msg NickServ help [09:29] Hello. Anybody here have tested 11.10 on the med-2011 refresh of the MacBook Air? [10:00] anyone having issues with data cards [10:00] on 11.10 [10:01] suddenly mine is not recogonised [10:01] :( [10:32] so I'm having some strange issues with wireless on a fully updated 11.10 [10:33] lenovo x201 with standard 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 (rev 35) [10:33] I can select the connection in network manager fine... [10:33] it connects [10:33] but then it seems as if the connection won't actually pass any traffic [10:36] have you tried this with another wireless network? [10:36] or a different system on the same network? [10:37] Ian_Corne: and this is where it all gets a bit odd.. [10:37] Ian_Corne: no other machine on my network has any problem with the wireless connection [10:38] ok [10:38] I've not seen this particular issue yet [10:38] at elast not in this channel for this alpha [10:39] Ian_Corne: thanks, I'm poking about in the logs but I can't see anything obvious [10:39] Ian_Corne: but it's also difficult to describe, so awkward to raise a sensible bug on [10:42] uhu [10:44] Ian_Corne: my wireless datacard (EDVO) is still not being recogonised , although lsusb lists it [10:45] are you in all the correct groups? [10:46] I'm sorry don't really have time for troubleshooting, and for wireless stuff, i usually just search the internet far and wide, try different drivers and stuff [12:19] anybody know anything about the ati radeon 6310 and linux kernel 3.1rc2? [12:19] as in, why can't i get them to work together [12:21] also, how do i remove the ati binary drivers? [12:21] We don't have 3.1 in Oneiric. [12:21] package manager tool, or the jockey-gtk app ibelive TechnoCat. [12:22] i downloaded a deb from kernel.ubuntu.com [12:22] jockey-gtk fails at startup. =\ [12:22] well thats not a good idea TechnoCat to be using kernels like that.. [12:22] i have to for my wifi card [12:22] we basically cant trouble shoot it at all. [12:22] =[ [12:23] but is it a testing kernel? or some ppa? or what exactly? [12:23] testing [12:23] guess it needs more testing. :() [12:23] heh [12:23] $ uname -a [12:23] Linux CowBuntu 3.0.0-8-generic #11-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 12 20:20:03 UTC 2011 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux [12:23] guess i'll be using windows until it is more stable [12:23] =\ [12:24] damn you manufacturers! giving me windows drivers only! [12:24] i think thats the latest for 10.11 Not sure when the kernel-freze takes effect. Might allready have.. [12:24] !schedule [12:24] A schedule of Oneiric Ocelot (11.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule [12:24] September 15th KernelFreeze, [12:24] so you mean kernel 3.1 won't make it into 11.10? [12:25] No idea. [12:25] is a kernel a feature? [12:25] the kernel is the core of the os... so they want to freeze it early in the testing phase.. but still theres alwyas new features in the newer versions tha tpeople want.. so its a catch-22 situation.. [12:26] well hmmm [12:26] Kernel Freeze seems tobe right befor beta2 is scheduled.. [12:26] i guess i can look at more cutting edge distros [12:27] Its not unpresidented, we've changed kernel in the past in the middle of testing [12:27] oh, i didn't see "kernelfreeze' hiding there [12:27] Ubuntu has never tried to be cutting edge.. :) theres 100's of disrtos out therre.. depends on your needs. [12:30] can anyone recommend a cutting edge debian based distro? [12:30] debian! [12:30] heh [12:30] hiyas all [12:32] TechnoCat, yeah Kubuntu 11.10 :) [12:32] did debian switch to kfreebsd kernel? [12:32] BluesKaj, with a 3.1 linux kernel [12:34] well, it's close TechnoCat , 3.0.0-8 , but havent seen anything mentioned about 3.1 ...isn't it a bit early in the game for that. [12:34] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11145357&postcount=46 [12:34] ^^^ this is why i want 3.1 [12:35] wantb and need a different things , be carefulwhat you wish for :) [12:35] are [12:35] i wish for wireless [12:36] TechnoCat, so you 3.0.1 right ? [12:36] mean [12:36] No, 3.1 [12:37] Linus released the rc [12:37] rc2 [12:38] I see nothing in the posted url about 3.1 [12:38] * Pici hasn't looked at the url [12:38] yeah, it says 3.0.1 [12:38] which apparently i misread [12:39] but still, 3.0.1! [12:39] i guess i'll try that today [12:39] maybe fglrx plays nice with 3.0.1 [12:41] oh hmm, 3.0.2 [12:41] TechnoCat, . yesterday I was advised to tru wicd-kde for wifi ralink 2780 usb adapter , which hasn't worked since 10,04 ...and after reboot and giving wicd passhphrase wpa2 worked right from the get go. ..surprised me [12:42] BluesKaj, it works flawlessly on kernel 3.1 ;] [12:42] just now graphics is borked [12:43] but i'll try it [12:43] if i can remember to in 7 hours! [12:43] which graphics ? [12:43] fglrx [12:43] i can't get opengl to work [12:43] glxgears fails to even start [12:45] if wifi works flawlessly on kernel 3.01 , then why are you wishing for wireless ? [12:45] i'm not, now i'm wishing for opengl in 3.1 [12:45] but everyone says why 3.1 and i say wireless [12:46] which takes me to there is no support for 3.1 [12:46] and you're going to be driving me in circles asking that [12:46] ok , nm ... this discussion is over for me [12:48] what does networkmanager have to do with this? [12:48] :p [12:49] like he said, he was surprised it worked [12:52] Ian_Corne, not the networkmanager in kde , but wicd-kde [12:52] BluesKaj: i was joking about "ok, _nm_ ..." [12:53] but nvm :) [12:53] alright :) [12:59] if 3.0.1 makes it to oneiric, i'll be happy panda [13:49] what's the command line image bin poster? [13:49] which I think it tied into one of the bug reporting tools [13:49] hmm, I should ask this in #bugs [13:59] 'man gsettings-data-convert': "gsettings-data-convert reads values out of the users GConf database and stores them in GSettings." What is GSettings? [14:26] hi, can anyone help about this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/668304/? [14:26] it starded after today updates [14:27] Hi you all, is there someone who have problems after last upgrade? [14:28] I have problem with package apport, because Aptitude says that there is a "continue" not in a loop [14:29] What should I do? [14:29] Airon90, this is bug 828037 [14:30] Launchpad bug 828037 in apport (Ubuntu) "package apport 1.21.3-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 101" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/828037 [14:31] Thank you, I hope that there will be a solution soon. Thank you :) [14:34] Pretto: Your question: "can anyone help about this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/668304/?" is not cleverly put. Please tell us what annoys you. [14:34] bullgard4: jibel answered Airon90, he is facing the same problem as I am [14:35] Pretto: Yes. [14:40] I am getting an error when trying to log in. "Cannot call D-Bus. Can you call qdbus? [14:40] not sure what to do now? [14:40] idleone, is dbus-daemon running [14:40] escott: I have no clue [14:41] I'm in tty now, how do I check? [14:42] ps aux | grep dbus-daemon shows it running [14:42] I get this error with GUI login after I enter my password [14:43] idleone, how about accounts-daemon [14:43] escott: that is not running [14:44]