[00:23] would you say team viewer is the best remot desktop shairing tool. or is there something easier or better out there [00:23] *remote [00:26] yesterday someone showed me an article on how to make aliases in my terminal, and my terminal keeps forgetting the aliases I'm making. Am I making them wrong? Or is there a save command? [00:27] Geo|zzz, add them to your ~/.bashrc [00:27] Oh, that's what they meant. Okay. Uhh I don't have that. [00:27] philipballew, i only tryed vnc before let me check what team viewer does and i will tell you my opinion [00:28] Geo|zzz, you do. files beginning with a dot are hidden to ls and only appear with ls -a [00:28] I pushed ctrl+H. it's not in my root folder. [00:29] Geo|zzz, if you deleted yours by accident grab the copy from /etc/skel [00:29] I didn't delete it o.O [00:29] I don't delete things from my root folder lol [00:30] CrOnOs2000, alright [00:30] Geo|zzz, what do you mean by root folder? [00:30] / [00:30] Geo|zzz, ~/ == $HOME [00:31] in /home I only have lost+found, .ecryptfs, and geo folders. [00:33] Geo|zzz, $HOME = /home/geo [00:33] lol [00:34] Finally some answers! [00:38] philipballew, well is paid so they probably ony offer a limited version for free, whats the better software depends if you going to give remore support for many not recurrent users or just share desktops w your friends === yofel_ is now known as yofel [01:29] exelente parece que en firefox 6 el flash trabaja mejor :D lastima que los plugins que uso no esten todos actualizados [01:34] !fr CrOnOs2000 [01:34] Factoid 'fr CrOnOs2000' not found [01:34] ok... that didn't work :p [01:35] ups, wrong chanel for that last sorry guys [01:35] !es [01:35] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [01:36] Heh, no problem (You thought Fr? You also forgot the pipe :D ) [01:36] !fr | CrOnOs2000 [01:36] CrOnOs2000: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [01:36] ah like that... [01:36] I think that was Spanish [01:36] I am not good with languages unfortunatly :) [01:36] not even the ones I speak :p [01:36] Move to ot :P [03:27] hay, when i update versious uf ubuntu is that known to cut off accsess to my ssh server? [03:28] not sure why though [04:55] im new to linux, can anyone help? [04:56] im running a server 11.04 on hyper-v, i can i get file access? [04:56] rickjaruiz, maybe what's up? [04:56] whats the best way to get file access remotely? [04:56] out of my area of knowledege [04:57] Wouldn't you just use SSH? Or sshfs on local network [04:57] how about for copying files? [04:57] is that through ssh? [04:58] like putty? [04:58] You could use PSCP (Comes with putty) [04:58] you can copy files with ssh [04:58] what do i need to setup on server to enable ssh? [04:59] sudo apt-get install openssh-server i think [04:59] ^ anyone confirm? [05:00] is gui for server pretty reiable? or should i stay away form it? [05:00] *reliable [05:01] it will slow the system down but its do-able. its just one more proccess you have to worry about on the server [05:01] whats the server for? [05:01] im kind of bored with windows, so just trying to learn [05:02] but i was trying to setup a minecraft server :) [05:02] its very easy for me in windows [05:02] but extreme hard in ubuntu server [05:02] *extremely [05:03] rickjaruiz, its not harder, just different [05:03] but it will run better [05:03] i guess u can say that [05:03] the server requires mysql and java 6 jdk [05:04] then you can install that pretty easily if you need to. were here to help you [05:04] have you found any guides specificly to set one up with ubuntu [05:04] thanks for the help [05:04] i dont know any commands at all [05:04] it was hard to get network card working [05:04] because its running as a virtual machine in windows 2008 r2 hyper-v [05:05] so your running the server virtually in a server? [05:05] exactly :) [05:06] what is samba file server, is that for remote file access? [05:07] i just ran sudo tasksel [05:07] what do you need to transfer files to [05:07] Samba is Windows Shares [05:08] im just trying to run mcmyadmin server [05:08] i dont even know how to download from server [05:08] or should i download form windows and transfer? [05:09] how come it wont let me install OpenSSH server from tasksel? [05:09] or is that not how u do it? [05:10] to install software you run sudo apt-get install packagename [05:10] Take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ and maybe visit their IRC channel at #ubuntu-server [05:10] Here for SSH https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html [05:11] is this place for desktop? [05:11] yeah any ubuntu [05:12] Mainly yes, but some people may know server [05:12] * philipballew runs a server [05:12] so if i install ssh i shouldnt need ftp? [05:13] any reason to use 10.04 instead of 11.04? [05:14] long term support... arguable stability [05:14] i use 10.04 everywhere actually, not just the server [05:15] for me since im new, does it matter which i start with? [05:16] 10.04 might be easier as theres less bugs [05:16] i love how os installs in 10 minutes [05:17] well, time to make a 10.04 vm real quick [05:17] 512mb ram should be fine right? [05:17] why do you wanna make a vm and not a hard install? [05:18] for a server would that be easier maybe? [05:18] well i use hyper-v and i already run multiple windows servers [05:19] its easier just to create another vilrtual machine [05:19] probably true. how are you gonna have everyone connect to play on your virtual machine? [05:19] well i just open the port in firewall and im good to go :) [05:20] true. if you have a static ip its pretty easy [05:20] hyperV can give VM's their own IP like virtualbox does [05:20] i use no-ip.org [05:20] i use dyndns :) [05:21] i like being able to use servegame.com domain for free [05:21] but yeah, its a challenge [05:21] this whole linux thing [05:21] im use to clicking away :) [05:22] * philipballew has no idea about anything windows [05:22] you're not installing a GUI though [05:22] awww no, 10.04 draws every line in my hyper-v console, unlike 11.04 [05:23] i did before [05:23] didnt seem stable [05:23] in 11.04 anyways [05:23] maybe its better in 10.04 [05:23] whats better? [05:23] the gui [05:25] 11.04 is using unity, im not sure, other than graphics drivers in the VM, why it would seem unstable [05:25] but yeah i know any windows os like the back of my hand, but linux, no clue [05:25] are you running a gui with your server? [05:25] i started over without it [05:25] i mine run one in 10.04 [05:25] to test it [05:25] *might [05:26] you should see me with a windows install disc [05:26] :) [05:26] i remember transitioning over to it being easier to install linux [05:27] how do u run games in linux? [05:27] since its not compatible [05:27] i look for games for linux [05:27] and run them [05:27] we play xbill [05:27] and xmahjong [05:27] lol [05:28] so no cool 3d games then? [05:28] some people says they play games with wine, but it seems to be a little pita [05:28] rickjaruiz, there's lots of cool 3d cames [05:28] rickjaruiz, http://happypenguin.org/ [05:28] is it possible to place windows games? [05:28] somehow? [05:28] some. takes work [05:28] !wine | rickjaruiz [05:28] rickjaruiz: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [05:28] !crossover [05:28] Factoid 'crossover' not found [05:28] rickjaruiz: how about this... linux is *way* more likely to play a windows game than the other way around [05:28] darn [05:28] !cedega ! rickjaruiz [05:28] bioterror: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [05:28] no cedega :( [05:29] that was some cool stuff back in the years [05:30] but yeah learning linux makes me feel like ive just started using a pc [05:31] so do u guys just memorize all the commands? [05:31] yes [05:31] and all the places [05:31] and all what we have changed [05:31] and plus plus plus more [05:31] yep, this is going to be a challenge [05:31] do you memorize all the things to click on in windows [05:32] but i like challenges [05:32] I have to remember all the GNU/Linux stuff at home, Windows XP/Vista/7 stuff at work and some Solaris stuff too [05:32] doesnt take me long to forget those too ;) [05:32] and oh well [05:32] its more just not always memorized to memorize, but experance brings memorzation [05:32] clicking has more pictures :) [05:32] half of the things are done with the proper shell configuration [05:32] yeah, going between them is challenging [05:33] easier for me to memorize pictures that words i guess [05:34] i use to hate anything that require command lines, thats why I push myself to learn linux :) [05:34] ahhh, this windows xp generation [05:35] yeah, i guess so [05:35] my friend told me "phil, I will never use a cli, I grew up in the 90's" [05:35] :D [05:35] at the end of the 90's [05:36] I was born in the beginning of the 80's, I lived best parts of my life in the 90's ;) [05:36] yeah im 84 [05:36] dos and windows 98 [05:37] i mean 95 [05:37] how do i get back to this software selection [05:37] is that tasksel? [05:38] you can always do it afterwards [05:38] that can be some commands you learn to run :) [05:38] which command is it? [05:38] what are you wanting to do? [05:39] I got a new work laptop! (not that new, but better than my current). Installing Linux and I'm going to run Windows 7 in virtualbox for VPN and Outlook stuff [05:39] just to see that menu again [05:39] hehe, im doing the opposite [05:39] bioterror: score :) [05:39] decided to go wild and I made 4096MB swap :D [05:40] im just going to wipe win7 on this netbook next time [05:40] ive only booted it up a few times [05:40] holstein, have you tried MeeGo? [05:40] yeaa windows 7 [05:40] bioterror: its been a while... i took a really early look at it [05:40] that and jolicloud... [05:41] I would probably go with the MeeGo on netbook [05:41] or something minimalisti [05:41] c [05:41] thats used for cell phones to [05:41] eh, im just running normal 10.04 actually [05:41] full compiz and all ;) [05:41] its not bad... i got 2gb's of ram [05:42] 10.04 took twice as long in hyper-v [05:42] that sux [05:42] i want a meego phone... [05:42] what took twice as long? [05:42] the os install [05:42] loading? booting? [05:42] not very compatible with hyper-v i guess [05:43] microsoft has released some things that didnt make it in til recenly AFAIK [05:43] i wouldnt lose any sleep over it... linux runs great in VM [05:45] hopefully the ubuntuserver updates will fix it [05:45] could... probably not though [05:46] the kernel versions max out, and im pretty sure those are the goodies you are missing... still, its not a deal breaker [05:52] oo, i think i found the fix [05:54] yea, no more painting every line [06:03] how can i get a remote gui file access? [08:42] so every once in a while my screen gets all distorted and ubuntu crashes... [08:43] get seem to find any solutions on the forum, or through google, anyone know anything about this? [08:43] hey [08:43] hey [08:44] selynda, i can see if i can maybe point you in the right direction [08:44] ok [08:44] first off im gonna ask you a few questions to get what type of computer you have and what your running [08:44] what version of ubuntu do you have? [08:44] what is the model of your computer? [08:45] 11.04 and its a dell, desktop [08:45] dell what? [08:45] when you say 11.04 are you running ubuntu with unity or another distro like xubuntu? [08:45] ubuntu [08:46] seriously? [08:46] Guess the problem just occured again [08:47] i was gonna recomend he/she do aditional drivers. or maybe install 10.04 [08:47] but geirha what can you do [08:49] Yeah, definitely sounds like a crappy graphics driver [08:50] if that didnt work id have him/her past bin lspci -vvv and then id search for a bug on that model and see if there was an upstream patch that the new kernal has. then have her install the driver. but oh well... [08:51] but i run chunchbang on one of my laptops [08:51] and it broke today [08:52] time to re install that [08:53] philipballew, you were asking about arch yesterday. http://archbang.org/ [08:54] hey! looks nice, im trying to faind a good small minumial ppc distro [08:54] lubuntu is to clunky [08:54] philipballew, it is arch without the hassle of the usual install, I like that myself. [08:56] I could maybe make a ppc version somehow [08:56] that looks nic [08:56] e [08:57] archbang is waste of time [08:58] I think it is fluxbox DE? [08:58] ofcourse you can try how the pacman works, but that's all [08:58] how is it bioterror [08:58] becouse it's far from the point of arch linux [08:58] and it's just dull openbox + tint2 [08:58] anybody can do that in an hour [08:59] supported by arch though, uses their repos you v=can have what ever DE you want [08:59] why not just install arch [08:59] some might not want to [08:59] last time I checked, archbang had hal in the daemons too [09:00] bioterror, I have no big deal, just saying your opinion is yours and represents you.;-) [09:00] my opinion is right [09:00] lol [09:00] * philipballew still cant find a good guide on a ppc system with openbox. [09:01] ^ google has failed me!!! [09:01] can I nominate you as the worls overlord. [09:01] dump that ppc and get yourself a real computer [09:01] worlds [09:01] you can run MorphOS for the fun [09:02] but i got it for free and its a shame to let it go to waste! [09:02] * philipballew never throws a computer away... [09:02] I recycle them for scavenge [09:03] they can take the best parts for better use [09:03] like copper and stuff [09:03] i take them apart and make my other ones better\ [09:03] i run on old hardware [09:03] good for you [09:03] old hardware is slow and not so compatible [09:03] but there is no body to buy them here. [09:04] i can get it to run usually? [09:09] for the PPC I would suggest Debian [09:09] philipballew, where you at? [09:18] i like debian [10:58] test [13:41] Hello,I have tried to intall ubuntu onto a usb 3 times now and evreytime the same thing happens. After succesful installation the pc boots into ubuntu in dos. I have to enter my username and password in dos and login is succesful. Then it stops and waits for me to type in commands or something. evrything seems fine only i am missing the whole graphical interface. No desktop or nothing. Any ideas? [13:42] Installing on a system with noe other hardisk or os. just striaght from cd to a 4 gb usb hdd [13:42] tnuis: hello [13:42] lets clarify a few things, and we'll go on with what could be happening [13:42] ok [13:43] "the pc boots into ubuntu in dos" [13:43] what does that mean? [13:43] you are presented with a text login, into the ubuntu installation? [13:43] it never boots up in any graphical way like windows desktop. Only black screen with white letters [13:44] are you just saying dos = that text login? [13:44] tnuis: OK... [13:44] yes dos = text login [13:44] for the record, that is *not* dos [13:44] tnuis: are you using a CD to install? [13:45] ok sorry for that, dont know what they call it these days. been 15 years since i worked in dos and this looks the same to me...:) [13:45] Yes installing from a cd straight into a 4 gb usb hdd [13:45] tnuis: what image? the normal LIVE installer? [13:45] no other harddisk or os in the syste [13:48] tnuis: i'll tell you what im pretty sure the issue is [13:48] your graphics hardware doesnt support linux well [13:48] downloaded ubuntu 11.04 - latest version and in step one and choose create cd and will be using windows under step 2 . Ref http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download [13:49] *before* i install ubuntu, i take the live CD, and i *dont* install... i boot it live [13:50] For the record I also tried installing on a different pc, 2 pc in total. with eax-800xt graphics card i beleve [13:50] tnuis: right, but have you tried loading that CD live? [13:50] *not* installing? [13:51] if you cant get the live CD to a desktop, the installed version wont go either [13:51] No, I can try that also. [13:51] there are options [13:52] tnuis: sometimes, i try different live CD's til something 'just works' [13:52] and i either make a note of what its using as far as kernel version and whatever [13:52] or i just use that CD to install [13:53] ok, so this happens more often? Cause everything seems fine, nothings hangs or anything like that. its just that i am getting text on black svreen instead of a gui [13:54] tnuis: i would suggest trying ubuntu 10.04, thats the latest long term support [13:54] Ok i will tryour suggestion and come back to you afterwards:) [13:54] tnuis: sure... this is just a little fiddly [13:54] i wouldnt say it happens often, but vendors dont support linux sometimes [13:54] you should let the manufacturer know you are having a challenging time [13:55] ok, what is the diff betweeen normal version and Long term support. I see 11.04 comes in both versions? [13:55] nope [13:55] 11.04 is *not* a long term support [13:55] what does long term support mean? [13:55] 10.04 is an LTS, that means longer support... 3 years for the desktop and 5 for the server [13:56] the normal 'in between' releases are supported for 18 months [13:56] so it is better for me to choose lts? [13:56] tnuis: theres no 'better' in linux [13:56] just options :) [13:56] ok:) I am learning. been a windows user for 20 years:) [13:57] tnuis: its *too* easy to use the live CD's for diagnistics [13:57] it literally has no effect on the machine you are running it on [13:57] you get to see pretty much what that operating system is going to look like [13:57] excatly. i will try that until i can see a desktop:) [13:58] any experence using ubuntu as a NAS os [13:58] ? [13:58] sure [13:58] I can see it is based on samba [13:59] http://www.turnkeylinux.org/fileserver for example [13:59] tnuis: "it" is based on whatever you want to base it one [13:59] samba is one way to share data on a network [14:00] Ok thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate it. You have a nice day :) [14:00] tnuis: anytime :) === nlsthzn is now known as nlsthzn_work [15:10] any video or resolution experts around? [15:12] I've been trying to set up a box for Ubuntu and everything works well until I log in. Once the main Ubuntu screen comes up, there's a problem with the resolution. The screen is a mess an unreadable. [15:12] Any thoughts? [15:23] :/ wow... he stayed around long... [15:24] nlsthzn_work, I also felt the same :P [15:26] IAmNotThatGuy: I know IRC is ususally used for a quicker fix to problems but that was ridiculous :p [15:26] he he [18:34] What does "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!" mean? [18:35] I’m trying to use an Nvidia video card. [18:35] I already installed “nvidia-173” packages. What do I need to do to activate the nvidia driver? [20:51] hey holstein, ready for your interview? [20:55] philipballew: we'll see :) [20:55] im excited about it [20:57] alright, ill sit in in case they need and +1's or anything [20:57] +!1+ +1 [20:58] :) [20:58] thanks philipballew [20:58] urlin2u: o/ [20:59] ooohhhh.... holstein is this meeting good news or bad news for you (potentially)? [20:59] yoh hope things go the way you imagine. [20:59] nlsthzn_work: i suppose it depends... ubuntu membership [20:59] holstein: double edged sword :p [21:00] nlsthzn_work: hehe [21:00] Well, good luck... hope it goes well (which ever way you want it too) [21:00] gracias === yofel_ is now known as yofel [22:30] hello maybe someone uses ASUS 1015PN? [22:45] hello i have dual boot with win7, every time i reboot i need to /etc/init.d/network restart maybe someone knows how to solve this? [22:51] what version of ubuntu are u using [22:52] 11.04 === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [22:53] did you try rcconf to check that network is runing on your default runlvl? [22:54] how to do it? [22:56] just run rcconf that will show you what services are started at each run lvl grafic interface is runlvl 5 [22:56] they left :( [22:58] philipballew, ? who left [23:03] dual boot with win7 i have every time to /etc/init.d/networking restart [23:04] Pauliax, are you No__? [23:04] yes [23:04] what to do [23:04] ? [23:05] did you try rcconf ? (sudo apt-get install rcconf) [23:11] Pauliax, so what happened? [23:14] shood i configure rcconf somehow, because same shit hapens? [23:15] just run it as root check that network service is activated [23:23] thanks for advice but no better [23:24] then you need to check your boot log and see what is the problem [23:25] no problem except pulse audio [23:26] RTNETLINK answers: No such process .. what does it means? [23:27] seems your network is not ready at start [23:27] how to check boot log? [23:28] quick fix may be add /etc/init.d/networking restart to .bashrc [23:29] logs are on system->admin->logs [23:29] sorry but where is .bashrc? [23:30] on your home directory is a hiden file you need to ls-a to see it or enable show hiden files on nautilus [23:30] but boot logs what filter to use? [23:31] root or home [23:31] ? [23:31] /home/yourdir/.bashrc [23:32] about logs i not shure maybe network? [23:33] and try syslogs too [23:38] add /etc/init.d/networking restart to .bashrc to the end of file? [23:40]