[00:03] <jcastro> jono: pong
[00:04] <jono> jcastro, just to let you know, my X wont start
[00:04] <jono> just did an upgrade
[00:04] <jcastro> mine on my desktop is boned
[00:04] <jcastro> but I thought it was nvidia related
[00:04] <jcastro> my laptop is fine
[00:04] <jcastro> is your laptop ok?
[00:04] <jcastro> or is it broken?
[00:05] <jono> it is my laptop
[00:06] <jono> it wont boot lightdm
[00:06] <jono> just chatting in ubunt-devel
[00:06] <jcastro> oh, I'm in -desktop
[00:06] <jono> np
[06:02] <nigelb> Morning dpm
[06:02] <dpm> good morning nigelb
[06:02] <dpm> good morning all
[07:12] <dholbach> good morning
[07:25] <dpm> morning dholbach :)
[08:08] <nigelb> Morning dholbach
[08:09] <kim0> Morning all
[08:09] <dholbach> hey dpm, hey nigelb
[08:09] <dpm> morning kim0
[08:09] <kim0> dpm: hey morning
[08:09] <nigelb> key kim0
[08:10] <kim0> nigelb: dholbach howdy o/
[08:10] <nigelb> I'm so fighting nagios today
[08:10] <dholbach> hey kim0
[08:11]  * kim0 hands nigelb a light saber
[11:46] <nigelb> dholbach: hi, starting to run harvest now. (its on ./manage.py update)
[11:46] <nigelb> Just giving you a headsup
[11:46] <dholbach> for me it just took 3-4 minutes
[11:47] <nigelb> yup, done
[11:48] <nigelb> dholbach: do we have caching on that machine?
[11:48] <nigelb> memcached or some such
[11:48] <dholbach> in which way?
[11:48] <dholbach> no idea
[11:48] <nigelb> harvest uses a lot of caching, maybe we should move a lot of things to cache.
[11:48] <dholbach> I don't have access to the new machine so I can't check
[11:49] <nigelb> cool, np. I'll assume no.
[11:49] <nigelb> If we did the code should have used it.
[12:20] <jussi> dholbach: where were you based ? (in .de?
[12:21] <dholbach> jussi, Berlin, Germany
[12:21] <jussi> dholbach: ahh, ok. Are you going to froscon?
[12:22]  * jussi will be at froscon, and around the area most of next week.
[12:23] <dholbach> I don't think so - I just came back from holidays and will be invited to a 90th birthday on the 22nd in a different part of the country
[12:23] <dholbach> sorry :/
[12:23] <jussi> Ahh well, cant have it all :)
[12:24] <jussi> btw, do we know any italians (living in italy) ?
[12:24] <nigelb> jussi: apart from paolo?
[12:24] <jussi> ooh, paolo. anyone know where he lives?
[12:24] <jussi> (and his irc nick?)
[12:25] <nigelb> Siena, according to FB, and its xdatap1
[12:25] <dholbach> xdatap1
[12:25] <nigelb> he's probably in #ubuntu-ngo
[12:25] <nigelb> or -testing
[12:25] <dholbach> just join the italian channel - I'm sure we have coverage of every single city :)
[12:25] <czajkowski> he doesn't always on irc
[12:26] <czajkowski> easier to find him on fb or skype
[13:32] <mhall119> nigelb: you need a summary field in your rss feed
[13:33] <nigelb> mhall119: oh. what's it supposed to do?
[13:47] <mhall119> gives a snipped of text from an article
[13:47] <mhall119> like a preview
[13:48] <mhall119> readfeeder displays them as a tooltop when you mouse-over an article in the table
[13:48] <mhall119> tooltip even
[13:55] <nigelb> mhall119: lots of text.. one line.. how much?
[13:56] <mhall119> depends, some blogs stick the entire article's text in there
[13:56] <mhall119> but about a paragraph is enough
[13:56] <nigelb> cool, I'll try to add that.
[13:56] <mhall119> often it's just the first paragraph
[13:57] <nigelb> its hard to do it right with jekyll
[15:00] <dholbach> jono, jcastro, dpm, kim0: time for chatting a bit? :)
[15:00] <jono> dholbach, dpm, jcastro, kim0 all set?
[15:00] <kim0> yep
[15:00] <jono> great minds :-)
[15:01] <jono> creating the hangout now
[15:01] <dpm> ready to roll
[15:02] <jono> dholbach, dpm, jcastro, kim0 hangout open
[15:02] <dpm> about to join... when my cpu stops going at 100%
[15:03] <dholbach> hum, I can't see it - should it just turn up in my timeline?
[15:04] <kim0> dholbach: yeah
[15:04] <jono> dholbach, yep
[15:04] <dholbach> hum, can't see it - maybe jono invited everyone but me? :-P
[15:05] <jono> dholbach, I invited the circle
[15:05] <jono> let me check
[15:05] <jono> jcastro, you coming?
[15:05] <dholbach> jono, last message from you I can see is from 01.08.2011
[15:05] <jono> dholbach, try now
[15:05] <jcastro> I'm all set
[15:05] <jcastro> sorry!
[15:05] <dholbach> A-HA!
[15:06] <jcastro> bah one sec
[15:06] <jcastro> the plugin is crashing for me
[15:07] <jono> kim0, we lost you
[15:08] <jono> jcastro, can you join us?
[15:19] <mhall119> paultag: if you be nice to Perl, it'll be nice to you
[15:28] <paultag> mhall119: it's ugly
[15:33] <popey> laura
[15:33] <czajkowski> marmite
[15:33] <popey> :D
[15:33] <czajkowski> :)
[16:20] <kim0> huats: howdy
[16:20] <huats> hey kim0
[16:20] <huats> how are you ?
[16:20] <kim0> how's it going
[16:21] <huats> great ! you ?
[16:21] <kim0> Ah going pretty good for me ;)
[16:21] <huats> how is the sprint doing ?
[16:21] <kim0> huats: all sprints are already over :)
[16:21] <huats> :)
[16:21] <kim0> huats: so you saw the css book thing
[16:21] <huats> yeah
[16:21] <huats> I was on holiday so I didn't answer
[16:22] <kim0> huats: if you're still interested to work on docs, I have tons of stuff :D
[16:22] <huats> kim0, I am !
[16:22] <kim0> huats: Awesome!
[16:22] <kim0> huats: so basically the maintainer of the serverguide just stepped down
[16:22] <huats> kim0, yeah I know
[16:22] <kim0> and I started reviewing the guide, updating all the info
[16:22] <huats> adam
[16:22] <kim0> would be great if you'd step up and share the load ?
[16:23] <kim0> Also .. we need to come up with docs for UbuntuCloud (Orchestra + Ensemble) in the serverguide
[16:23] <kim0> I need to identify what should go there, once identified, it's a lot of work to hammer into shape as well
[16:23] <kim0> want to take a bite of that
[16:23] <kim0> ?
[16:23] <huats> interesting indeed !
[16:23] <kim0> \o/
[16:23] <huats> (sorry I am on the phonegive me 2 secs)
[16:24]  * kim0 nods
[16:24]  * kim0 waves → If anyone is interested in that ↑ as well, let me know
[16:24] <huats> kim0, the server guides really interest me
[16:25] <kim0> huats: awesome!
[16:25] <kim0> huats: can you pick some chapters to review
[16:25] <kim0> let's see
[16:25] <huats> and why not giving a hand at the UbuntuCLoud stuff
[16:25] <huats> sure
[16:26] <kim0> huats: yeah sure that too! except that this one is still a bit unclear what needs to be done
[16:26] <huats> :)
[16:26] <kim0> huats: the reviewing part is the easy one .. starts right away
[16:27] <kim0> huats: I'll be having a talk with Daviey soonish (probably tomorrow) to understand what needs to go there, then we can start crunching
[16:27] <huats> kim0, ok please let me know
[16:27] <kim0> huats: ok, I finished reviewing the first chapter .. why don't you start reviewing bottom-up
[16:27] <huats> kim0, that is a good idea
[16:28] <kim0> huats: so maybe VPN -> clustering ...etc
[16:28] <kim0> till we meet :)
[16:28] <huats> :)
[16:28]  * kim0 hugs huats .. You're made of awesome
[16:28] <huats> lol
[16:28] <huats> don't say that before we met ;)
[16:28] <kim0> the time is tight .. we need to get this done before 11.10
[16:29] <kim0> your help is really needed
[16:29] <kim0> and hey, if you can think of others who can help .. shoot right away :)
[16:29] <kim0> I'll email the server list right now
[16:29] <huats> kim0, I'll ask to some of the guy from my company too tomorrow (may be they can review a few stuffs too...) and since I am the boss they won't say no ;)
[16:30] <kim0> huats: so the workflow is, you branch the serverguide (which is docbook xmls), fix a chapter, upload to your LP branch, file a merge proposal ..
[16:30] <kim0> it's not hard, but if you need help, ping me
[16:30] <huats> kim0 I'll give a look tomorrow
[16:30] <kim0> huats: okie dokie .. thanks a lot .. I'll let you know once I get more info about the ubuntucloud pieces
[16:30] <huats> and I'll let you know
[16:30] <kim0> hurray
[16:43] <huats> kim0, if we start to be more than 2 it might be a good think considering a pad where we list the whole chapters to claim
[16:58] <kim0> huats: yeah or bugs .. let's wait n see
[17:02] <huats> kim0, I might start with the chapter 22 ;à
[17:02] <huats> :)
[17:02] <huats> because you didn't mention it
[17:04] <kim0> Yeah you sure can
[17:08] <nigelb> mhall119: r? https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/harvest/cache-add/+merge/71904
[17:08] <nigelb> (just the cache bits)
[17:09] <dholbach> thanks nigelb
[17:09] <dholbach> I'll call it a day now - see you all tomorrow
[17:09] <nigelb> dholbach: g'nite!
[17:09] <dholbach> I'll play around with it first thing tomorrow :)
[17:09]  * dholbach hugs you all
[17:09] <nigelb> sure :)
[17:09]  * nigelb hugs dholbach 
[17:09] <dholbach> :-)
[19:30] <jcastro> jono: want to feel like you've accomplished nothing as a guitar player?
[19:30] <jcastro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6cGTsX3O-2E
[19:41] <AlanBell> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4uQbJ4iIxk&feature=youtu.be
[19:52] <jono> jcastro, ahh yeah, I saw that
[20:04] <jcastro> jono: hey you had a compiz thing you were working on with sam right?
[20:05] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompizTestPlan
[20:05] <jcastro> the prerelease is available in a PPA if you want to confirm/deny a problem
[20:09] <jono> jcastro, I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/818142
[20:09] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 818142 in unity "Black box painted when logging into to Unity" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[23:26]  * AlanBell pokes jcastro with http://developer.ubuntu.com/support/
[23:27] <AlanBell> tells people to join #ubuntu-app-devel and embeds a webchat pointing at it, but the channel is invitation only
[23:27] <akgraner> thanks AlanBell !
[23:27] <akgraner> I was just doing what the site said
[23:27] <akgraner> :-)
[23:28] <AlanBell> can you raise it with jono (it was raised here last week too I think)
[23:28] <akgraner> I don't think jono likes it when I raise things with him...just a feeling I get...
[23:29] <akgraner> maybe if I didn't raise my voice so much - that might help...
[23:29] <akgraner> (just kidding)
[23:29] <AlanBell> I was directing that at jcastro (and would have directed at jono if he was in channel)
[23:29] <akgraner> yeah - jcastro you can do that - thanks! :-)
[23:31] <akgraner> hey AlanBell do you if you file a bug against the installer slide show  - using  ubuntu-bug installer?
[23:32] <AlanBell> ubiquity I think is the name of the installer
[23:32] <akgraner> I'm challenging myself to file 3 bugs per week - but I don't know where a bug about the wording on the installer needs to go and I've never filed a bug without an error message asking me if I wanted to file a bug
[23:33] <akgraner> ahh gotcha
[23:33] <akgraner> :-)  thanks!
[23:33] <AlanBell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~alanbell?field.searchtext=ubiquity&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[23:34] <AlanBell> oops, sorry
[23:34] <AlanBell> well that is the ubiquity bugs I have filed
[23:34] <akgraner> oh cool
[23:34] <AlanBell> s/that is/those are/
[23:34] <akgraner> nope
[23:35] <akgraner> it's confusing to me when it says uninstall version number and reinstall
[23:35] <akgraner> I keep reading that as why would I reinstall the version I just uninstalled
[23:36] <akgraner> Pete was listening to me and a friend install it Ubuntu and they were confused as well
[23:36] <AlanBell> oh, in the simplified partitioning bit?
[23:37] <AlanBell> if you already have Ubuntu on the disk
[23:37] <akgraner> he was like what do you mean there is nothing for a new install yes there is - no there's not - it's the second one in the list - ok then you read this - then he says fine file a bug
[23:37] <AlanBell> that is the trouble with simplifying things, it confuses people who know what they are doing
[23:38] <akgraner> he's like I wound have never in a million years read that the way you are...
[23:38] <akgraner> users he says :-) (but he meant it in a good way I am sure)
[23:38] <AlanBell> akgraner: tried doing the install with orca running yet?
[23:39] <akgraner> no I haven't
[23:39] <akgraner> should I?
[23:39] <AlanBell> yes!
[23:39] <AlanBell> that will help you with your 3 bugs/week objective
[23:39] <akgraner> which version  - 11.10?  or a Natty install or does it matter
[23:40] <akgraner> I'll use the Alpha :-)
[23:40] <AlanBell> oneiric would be the most useful to file bugs against
[23:40] <akgraner> will do then
[23:41] <akgraner> Pete was like  - Amber you HAVE to file bugs - yelling at me doesn't get bugs fixed it just pisses me off...
[23:42] <akgraner> not b/c there are bugs but b/c I am yelling at him and I don't even realize I am yelling at him...poor Pete
[23:42] <akgraner> no wonder he is traveling for 3 weeks straight
[23:42] <AlanBell> I should go to bed. Night all o/
[23:42] <akgraner> AlanBell, night!
[23:43] <akgraner> thanks for your help and suggestions
[23:57] <mhall119> akgraner: you know how Michelle's started using the hashtag #whymommydrinks ?
[23:58] <mhall119> Pete should start using #whykerneldevsdrinki