[00:01] yeah, unless you have more upstart-fu than I... [00:01] robert_ancell, or should I just forget about gdm and do s/gdm/lightdm/ in the upstart script? [00:03] bryceh, I guess it would be nice if *any* dm failed to run failsafe X, and I think that's possible with upstart, though perhaps not the way it's currently configured [00:03] my upstart-fu is pretty bad [00:03] yeah mine too [00:05] I think in terms of what we want to support for Ubuntu we just need to support LightDM, but in terms of supporting derivatives we want to aim for "any display manager" [00:05] bryceh: RAOF: you guys getting any reports of X not working on oneiric? [00:05] just happened to me today [00:06] * desrt raises his hand [00:06] jcastro, unity is broken for me [00:06] desrt, heh, caught you lurking... I have a gdbus question [00:06] sure [00:07] desrt, there is a bug in lightdm, where it calls g_dbus_proxy_new_for_bus_sync for AccountsService, but this succeeds even if the AccountsService does not exist. It should fallback to /etc/passwd in this case. Am I interpreting g_dbus_proxy_new_for_bus_sync wrong? [00:08] yes. i think so. [00:09] in theory you can have a proxy that attempts to do no communication with the remote [00:09] well, the docs say it's going to get all the properties of that object. And how can it fail if it doesn't actually do any connecting? [00:10] and why have sync/async methods if they have the same result? [00:10] the object might exist at a later date [00:10] _sync() does all that needs to be done and returns [00:10] _async() does it all in the background and you get a call later [00:10] so, what is the way to detect if a service exists? [00:11] g_dbus_proxy_get_name_owner() should give a dbus unique name string if it exists, or NULL if not [00:11] jcastro, heh all of our bug reports are about X not working ;-) but no, none have been reported about it failing to start up [00:12] bryceh: heh [00:12] the proxy is constructed in such a way that the service may come and go and you get to find out about that [00:13] so when you create it and the service does not exist, you get empty properties (for example) [00:13] when the service pops into existence the properties will be populated [00:13] and you can notify on g-name-owner property to find out about the transition [00:14] desrt, ok, cheers [00:14] jcastro, fwiw what jono's described is sounding like a failure well before X comes into the picture, so probably not an X bug [00:15] yeah mine sounds similar [00:15] well, almost certainly not an X bug. Could still be a graphics problem though, but that'd be more likely a kernel drm driver bug. [00:15] Is this known to people: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgiozeitgeist.so: undefined symbol: g_desktop_app_info_launch_handler_get_type [00:15] bryceh: I thought it was just nvidia breakage and was going to wait until tomorrow, but then jono was like "mine doesn't work either" [00:35] kenvandine: sure, I'll do the evolution stuff soon (sorry, was travelling) [00:35] soon = some time later tonight, before going to bed. you know, standard conference operating hours ;) [00:36] unless you need it earlier than that? === kenvandine_ is now known as kenvandine [00:53] cyphermox, i enable the vala bindings and upload eds [00:53] but i didn't bump it [00:57] bump it? [00:57] s/enable/enabled [00:57] oh ok [00:57] cyphermox, oh... i guess you missed seb's request to bump it ;) [00:57] 3.1.5 is out [00:57] no, no, I saw that [00:57] ok [00:58] I spoke to jelmer briefly about that seeing as I noticed 3.1.5 of e-mapi was out when I was going to review his upload [00:58] i just quickly enabled the vala bindings so i could unblock libfolks and empathy [00:58] sure [00:58] well i need to run, thx! [00:58] bbiab [00:58] so I'll go ahead and update eds/evo to get the rest of the evo stuff to 3.1.5 [00:58] thanks to you! [01:12] robert_ancell: Hm. How do you get back to the login screen after you've suspended from it? :) [01:14] robert_ancell: Once I resume I end up at the gnome-screensaver unlock dialog, and I don't know lightdm's password :) [01:15] RAOF, that's very odd because lightdm doesn't run gnome-screensaver [01:15] go to a terminal and see what launched it [01:15] robert_ancell: It's running as lightdm [01:16] Launched from /usr/bin/gnome-screensaver --no-daemon [01:16] what else is running as lightdm? [01:17] dbus-launch, dconf-service, gvfsd, notification-daemon, geoclue, unity-greeter, indicator-*, pulseaudio. [01:17] I'd guess that indicator-session's to blame - I suspended from that. [01:18] aha [01:19] RAOF, can you file a bug on indicator-session that it shouldn't lock the screen when in greeter mode and subscribe mterry to that? [01:20] it may already be known, but I'm not sure [01:20] Certainly. [01:20] I think there's some indicator patches that are taking some time to flow through [01:29] there's already a bug, we just need to point it to indicator-session then [01:30] bug 812804 [01:30] Launchpad bug 812804 in unity-greeter "lightdm asks for password when resuming from suspend even when no one is logged in" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812804 [01:32] robert_ancell: done [01:32] jbicha, thanks [01:32] * RAOF will stop fiddling with that bug then :) [01:33] I don't know if the description needs changed or if you want to add some extra comments to it [01:33] it didn't happen with the example greeter but the example greeter was simpler === asac_ is now known as asac [02:17] jbicha, yeah, it will be unity-greeter specific [02:35] desrt, is this valid? g_variant_get (parameters, "(&sa(ss))", &type, &property_iter) where property_iter is 'GVariantIter property_iter' [04:11] Good morning [04:12] kirkland: ah, thanks for the info [04:12] chrisccoulson: ffox install path> thanks! [04:12] dobey: mono/rbox/gtk3> well, we can decide all we want, as long as there's no gtk3 music store, we can't switch to rbox; and since we are past FF now, banshee will be the default [04:13] dobey: having a music store for rb would be nice, of course, but it's not a release blocker [04:17] morning pitti [04:17] hey cyphermox, how are you? [04:18] good, good [04:30] good morning [04:30] hey jbicha [04:30] pitti: I am looking at gnome-themes-standard and think we should split out the accessibility themes and include them [04:31] by default like we did in previous releases, & my question is whether we should ship all 4 of them or not [04:32] *3 High, HighInverse, and Low (although I don't think Low is very useful) [04:33] gnome-themes-standard is in universe right now, but I suppose it's easy enough to MIR [04:33] now that we have a 3.1 version [04:33] but the full 1 MB seems too big, so splitting out the a11y themes is appreciated [04:33] g-t-s also includes Adwaita which isn't strictly needed in Unity [04:35] before, we had a gnome-accessibility-themes-extra, do we want to do that or just put all 3 in the one package? [04:46] You know what would be nice? If my wireless didn't drop and reconnect every 2-3 minutes. [04:57] jbicha: I think we should just split out the a11y themes we need into one binary package, instead of one package per theme; sounds easier? [04:58] RAOF: that sounds awful; I had that when I got my new router [04:58] RAOF: I disabled 80211n and forced it back to g; 54 MBit is enough for my purposes [04:58] that fixed the hangs [04:58] actually, it wasn't reconnects, but connection hangs [04:59] pitti: I think I'll leave it; I've got a cat5 cable plugged in now. [05:16] pitti: the old gnome-accessibility-themes is still on the desktop CD anyway [05:16] jbicha: ah, that's the gtk2 one, so we'll need to replace that [05:34] jasoncwarner_, RAOF, TheMuso, robert_ancell good morning [05:34] rickspencer3, hola! [05:34] pitti: Good morning! Just posted a comment on bug 827176. [05:34] Launchpad bug 827176 in language-selector "fontconfig-voodoo crashed with DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "Get" with signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827176 [05:34] hey rickspencer3 [05:34] GunnarHj: good morning [05:34] rickspencer3: Greetings. [05:35] hey rickspencer3 [05:35] pitti, good morning [05:35] GunnarHj: ah, figuring this out is on my today's list indeed [05:35] I thought it might be a tad early for you, I forgot you were an early riser [05:36] working for 1:30 hours already :) [05:36] pitti: Good. I haven't been able to reproduce the bug, because of that python bug... [05:36] pitti, you stuyd [05:36] stud* [05:37] rickspencer3: I blame my wife for it :) she's getting up at 6, so am I [05:37] :) [05:37] pitti, I'm an early riser too, but people here stay up laaaate [05:37] when I am in bed, I can hear other people having their dinners [05:38] c'est la France [05:38] indeed [05:38] oui, c'est bon [06:08] pitti: https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu/oneiric/gnome-themes-standard/3.1.5/+merge/71815 [06:14] jbicha: great work, thanks! queueing for sponsoring [06:30] Oh, hi compiz. Why are you using 6.6GiB of virtual memory? [06:31] it doesn't here, as it crashes every hour [06:31] nice trick to circumvent memleaks [06:31] RAOF: I had firefox using that much the other day [06:31] It appears to have so many open memory maps that gnome-system-monitor is unable to render them :) [06:32] Oh! There we go. Crash. [06:34] Hm. 6.8GiB of gem_objects? That's not good. [06:34] where do you see the 6.8 GiB? in ps ux? [06:36] Compiz was in gnome-system-monitor, the virtual size; it's since crashed, so it's now down to a more reasonable 700MiB. [06:36] Hm. / 1.3GiB. [06:36] That's fast :) [06:36] RAOF: you call 700 MB "reasonable"? [06:36] (FWIW, it's 87 MB here) [06:37] Virtual, or resident? [06:37] g-s-monitor doesn't say -- it just says "memory" [06:37] That's resident - shared. [06:37] I suppose it's resident [06:37] You need to turn on the virtual memory column to get these numbers. [06:38] But the 6.8GiB (now 7.3GiB) gem_objects is from /sys/kernel/dri/0/i915_gem_objects [06:38] ah, 704 virtual here [06:38] Compiz would appear to be leaking textures. [06:38] * pitti doesn't have /sys/kernel/dri [06:39] Bah. /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_gem_objects; you'll need root to read it. [06:40] 3374 objects, 500711424 bytes [06:41] ^ first line here [06:41] i. e. 500 MB [06:41] when I do some operations like switching desktop etc., the number wiggles a bit, but it doesn't seem to leak here [06:41] this is intel arrandale [06:42] I think something may have gone crazy here; it looks like gtk-window-decorator was what was eating all those goats. [06:43] After killing it I'm down to 310636544 bytes worth of gem objects. [06:44] (And I'm no longer under terrible memory pressure) [06:45] Tell you what, SSDs even make the user experience during swap thrashing better ;) [06:49] RAOF: heh, it's much closer to RAM than a rotary HDD, indeed :) === Amaranthus is now known as Amaranth [07:15] Moin! [07:20] hey Sweetshark, guten Morgen [07:20] meh, my window maximize keysettings does no longer work after the latest update [07:20] mvo: guten Morgen [07:21] guten morgen pi [07:21] pitt [07:21] i [07:21] mvo: Alt+F5/Alt+F10 still work here; but the case that stopped working is that Alt+F10 doesn't unmaximize any more [07:21] I find that pretty confusing, as I was regularly using it for that [07:21] I have a custom one (ctrl-0) and I guess gnome ate it [07:22] did someone ask you to run unity --reset by chance? [07:22] no, my launcher icons are still 32px just like before [07:22] I don't think anything changed yesterday wrt this [07:22] hm, focus follow mouse is done as well [07:23] its been a while since I restarted the session [07:23] may well be that this change is a couple of days old [07:23] * pitti still uses FFM; I'd get crazy without it [07:23] focus follow mouse is done as well [07:23] gnoe [07:23] but I had to turn it back on after unity --reset a few weeks ago === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [07:23] (in ccsm) [07:23] yeah, I used to set it in metacity [07:24] * mvo fires up ccsm [07:24] is the new alt-tab behaviour done on purpose? [07:24] mvo: tpying is hrad, isn't it? [07:24] it is, isn't it ;) [07:24] tjaalton: eew, that's totally broken.. [07:25] tell me about it.. [07:25] but once I had my first cup of tea its usually much better [07:25] there's no way to pick up a specific window anymore [07:25] it killed my terminals! [07:25] it just hides them, no? [07:25] it'll pop up every window of the app, even the ones that were minimized [07:26] oh, not killed, but apparently minimized them [07:26] but it seems to overlay terminals with other apps, so there's no way to pick the ones beneath it [07:37] tjaalton: You're looking at bug #825036 and bug #825029 [07:37] Launchpad bug 825036 in unity "Switching behaviour to a group is awkward" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/825036 [07:37] Launchpad bug 825029 in unity "When alt-tabbing to an application with multiple windows the focused window is not raised" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/825029 [07:38] tjaalton: But there is a way to pick a specific window - hit the down arrow when the group is focused in alt-tab. [07:38] We should totally sick DBO on those ^^^ [07:39] huh, now it does both the old and new stuff at the same time [07:39] here, that is [07:40] I get both popups [07:40] Yeah, you should disable the staticswitcher plugin. [07:40] Lest compiz SIGSEGV at you. [07:41] * RAOF heads due pilates. [07:44] i'd rather turn off the unity switcher, but apparently there's no way to do that :) [07:45] oh, there is [07:49] good morning [07:49] pitti: could you sync translate-toolkit-1.9.0-1 from debian to oneiric? after some careful checking it seems all remaining ubuntu customizations are obsolete. [07:52] Sweetshark: done [07:53] hey desktopers [07:53] bonjour seb128 [07:53] tjaalton: what knob is it? [07:53] hey pitti, how are you? [07:53] hey seb128 [07:53] hey mvo [07:53] wie gehts? ;-) [07:53] seb128: feeling quite well again, just a bit of a cold left, thanks! [07:53] happily hacking along again [07:53] great [07:55] morning [07:56] hey rodrigo_ [07:56] how are you? [07:59] pitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/translate-toolkit/+bug/827852 [07:59] Ubuntu bug 827852 in translate-toolkit "lp:/ubuntu/oneiric/translate-toolkit is all messed up" [Undecided,New] [08:00] Sweetshark: actually the sync should take care of this automatically [08:00] Sweetshark: if it doesn't, can you please poke james_w? [08:01] mvo: from ccsm open the unity plugin capplet, then change the "key to start the switcher" to something else [08:01] pitti: Ill try to remember to have a look after the sync [08:01] thanks tjaalton [08:03] rodrigo_, what do you work on today? [08:03] rodrigo_, do you need help or reviews on anything today? [08:03] seb128, well, if you could have a look at the gnome-color-manager branch, it doesn't build for me [08:04] RAOF, thanks for the glib fix, though it's weird that zg stops the session [08:04] rodrigo_, ok [08:04] seb128, I'll finish for now folks 0.6 and the new gnome-contacts release [08:04] rodrigo_, hum, ken started on that update as well I think, did you work on it yet? [08:04] rodrigo_, he built eds with vapi for it [08:04] seb128, no [08:05] ok, I'll have a look [08:05] or wait for him to be online [08:06] rodrigo_, pitti, chrisccoulson, btw if some of you want to do some etherpad sponsoring that would be welcome ;-) [08:07] seb128, ok [08:07] seb128: I have https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu/oneiric/gnome-themes-standard/3.1.5/+merge/71815 queued for me today [08:07] pitti, danke [08:07] I'll have a look at the gnome-games proposal [08:08] I will look at gjs and gnome-shell [08:18] robert_ancell, hey [08:18] seb128, hello [08:18] robert_ancell, how are you? [08:18] good [08:18] robert_ancell, got my email? [08:18] robert_ancell, could you look at bug #823775 this week? [08:18] Launchpad bug 823775 in lightdm "Cannot login: could not update ICEauthority file .ICEauthority" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/823775 [08:19] ignore the title, it got hijacked [08:19] seb128, yes, will look tomorrow. Was Michael also looking at it you said? [08:19] robert_ancell, kirkland and pitti added some comments as well [08:19] hey robert_ancell, how are you? enjoyed the holidays in berlin? [08:20] pitti, yeah, I loved Berlin. I wish I'd spent some more time there outside of the conference [08:20] robert_ancell, he dumped his comments on the bug but I don't think he looked further, he figured that it was an ecryptfs issue and that login to a vt was the workaround, not the .Xauthority thing [08:20] ok [08:20] I need to find a way to regression test ecryptfs behaviour [08:20] robert_ancell, I will check with him today and keep you updated so you don't duplicate work [08:21] hi seb128, that glib regression was Fun [08:22] bryceh, hey, thanks for sending the email on the list, though with some luck not a lot of people have that old deprecated binary leftover [08:22] sorry that we didn't catch it in the testing, seems that both seb128 and I have natty (or newer) installs [08:22] pitti, no, I've older ones [08:22] but I tend to clean installed craps once a cycle [08:22] libzeitgeist-gio only exits in maverick [08:23] so I probably cleaned that one over time [08:23] seb128, no prob, yeah hope we caught it quickly enough. [08:23] bryceh, well as pitti said it's only an issue for people who tried unity before natty [08:24] and didn't clean the deprecated binaries [08:24] we don't do a good job at cleaning deprecated things on upgrade though it seems [08:24] robert_ancell, did you get my email btw? [08:25] robert_ancell, I listed some other bugs I found worth looking at there in case of that's of any use to you ;-) [08:25] The background in my Lightdm unity-greeter is black. What does this point toward, robert_ancell ? [08:25] seb128, ah yes that should limit the scope [08:26] the system I repro'd on has been upgraded since as long as I can remember [08:26] seb128, yes, haven't replied to it though... [08:26] robert_ancell, no need to reply [08:26] cdbs, which greeter? [08:26] robert_ancell: unity-greeter [08:27] robert_ancell, well no hurry to reply, there are some questions but it was mostly to point the interesting bugs [08:27] robert_ancell: version 0.0.2-0ubuntu2 [08:28] seb128, in short, I agree with the list, and it's useful to summarise it that way. [08:28] cdbs, so everything else works but just the background is black? [08:28] robert_ancell: yup [08:28] robert_ancell: everything works as expected [08:28] robert_ancell: And in --test-mode [08:28] robert_ancell: The background is black there as well, except for the backgrounds of alice and bob [08:29] robert_ancell, great, thanks [08:29] cdbs, the background is set in /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf, I'm guessing you don't have it installed [08:29] hmm [08:29] * cdbs checks [08:29] it's hardcoded to the default ubuntu one, but perhaps it needs fixing [08:29] robert_ancell: yup, it is unset [08:29] robert_ancell: But this isn't the right way that file was meant for, right? Unity-greeter should install a default config file [08:30] * cdbs didn't play around with that since a fresh install [08:30] oh, did you change that or did something else do that? The file should be installed with defaults and not need to be edited [08:30] robert_ancell: Which package installs that file? [08:30] cdbs, it should be part of unity-greeter [08:31] * cdbs runs apt-get install --reinstall unity-greeter [08:31] robert_ancell: still a black background [08:31] and no file [08:31] cdbs, because it's in /etc/ dpkg might try and not modify the file [08:31] seb128, pitti, other packaging experts: ^^ does this make sense? [08:32] cdbs, what is in /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf? [08:32] robert_ancell, cdbs: right, etc conffiles are special [08:32] robert_ancell: dpkg will only update this file if it wasn't modified [08:32] they will preserve your changes, including deletion [08:32] robert_ancell: There's no such file [08:32] if you deleted it, it will not come back [08:33] well, if it was modified, and teh package ships a new one, it'll ask you which one to take [08:33] seb128, pitti, will a --purge fix that? [08:33] and what seb128 said [08:33] you need to dpkg --conffile-missing [08:33] thanks [08:33] that's dpkg -i --force-confmiss [08:33] yes, if the admin removes a file, dpkg respects that and doesn't bring it back [08:33] right, I was looking for the real name of the option, I don't use it often enough to memorize it :p [08:34] seb128, oh, the next lightdm has nested x server support. I think you were interesting in that for testing [08:34] robert_ancell, \o/ [08:35] dm-tool --add-nested-seat :) [08:36] robert_ancell, can I get a "lightdm rocks" sticker to put on my laptop? ;-) [08:36] seb128, If you can find someone with artistic talent :) Get them to make a logo for it while you're at it... [08:37] let's wait for Didier to be back, maybe his gf can do it, he asked her if she should do an icon for dconf-editor already I think ;-) [08:38] robert_ancell, speaking of dconf-editor I think people mentioned it doesn't handle override files correctly [08:38] like ignore those :p [08:38] hmm, weird, g-games fails building with GTK_CLUTTER_TEXTURE undefined symbol, but both the header and the lib are being used when building [08:39] * robert_ancell wonders why he ever let desrt twist his arm into making dconf-editor === pedro__ is now known as pedro_ [08:40] robert_ancell, :) [08:44] Sweetshark: [08:44] o gaupol: python-aeidon [08:44] [Reverse-Recommends: translate-toolkit] [08:44] Sweetshark: ^ FYI, new from components-mismatches [08:44] so if that's required, it needs a MIR, otherwise a demotion to suggests [08:48] pitti, do you know why there is a 6mb difference between the x86 and amd64 iso? [08:49] seb128: I think it's just that amd64 packages generally tend to be a tad bigger [08:49] pitti, it's the other way around there [08:49] i. e. it's not that one extra package on the amd64 CD [08:49] x86 is 6mb over amd64 [08:49] seb128: right, x86 has an extra langpack [08:50] ah ok [08:50] so we are basically on target now? [08:50] pitti: hmm. debian had a dep from translate-toolkit on gaupol, which we removed. now debian depends on python-aeidon, so I assumed our change was not needed anymore. I didnt check for python-aeidon being in main though :( [08:50] also, amd64 hasn't built for about three days [08:50] pitti, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20110817/ [08:50] pitti, it has all images? [08:51] seb128: yes, seems so; if we drop the Chinese langpack, we are on target, and if we rebuild fresh -base langpacks, even more so [08:51] seb128: yes, it just copies the previous one for the failed ones [08:51] oh ok [08:51] or someone retried it, that could also be [08:51] I just got a failed amd64 log [08:51] well the manifest is from yesterday [08:51] yesterday's failed due to mono [08:52] seb128: ah, so there was a second build attempt yesterday which worked, and today's failed again [08:52] but at least that's reasonably current then [08:52] ok [09:00] I think mono's broken again, just in a different way [09:00] broken how? [09:02] my mono-runtime is stuck at 2.10.3-1, trying to upgrade it removes all of mono or something [09:04] oh never mind, I guess I just didn't wait long enough for everything to come through [09:05] hm, failed to build on i386 [09:05] no, that still didn't work, I'm on amd64 [09:05] yeah, but arch:all would be built on i386 [09:08] whatever's breaking doesn't look healthy in that build log for mono [09:16] bryceh, btw, feel free to upload your xchat-gnome work, I see you have a merge request for it, did you want some review? is there anything which was blocking you to upload? [09:17] morning [09:17] lut huats [09:28] Hi, I am was wondering if somebody could help me by reviewing indicator bug over at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=9151 I have one approval so there is just one left [09:29] it's a fairly simple python indicator for displaying and regularly updating a Launchpad bug list (for example bitesize bugs). It notifies you when there are new bugs that match the bug search pattern [09:36] * pitti hugs mvo for the s-c port to gir-gmenu [09:37] :) [09:37] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/python-gmenu [09:37] so that just leaves alacarte for main [09:38] seb128: ^ is this still being supported upstream, or should we just kill it? [09:38] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/python-gmenu [09:38] sorry [09:38] -- oneiric/main i386 deps on alacarte: [09:38] gnome-panel [09:39] (and some rdepends from metapackages which are trivial to fix) [09:39] pitti, it's still useful for the fallback session but not really actively maintained though [09:39] you can maybe keep it a bit to see if somebody is interested to fix it? [09:39] just asking because python-gmenu is NBS now [09:39] ok, sure [09:40] well you can delete it and we can put it back later on as well [09:40] seb128: FTR, I have a pygobject 2.90.1 package ready, and a split build for pygobject-2; uploading both to experimental now [09:40] it just seems easier to keep it broken for a bit, see if somebody comes with a fix or delete it if it doesn't happen [09:40] pitti, \o/ [09:40] seb128: not that urgent, I was just curious whether we should package a new alacarte or so [09:41] with the fixes from this morning it seems most stuff is happy, just software-center breaks with 2.90.1 [09:41] pitti, ok, it's a bit unmaintained so there nothing to package yet [09:41] apparently at some point it uses both "gobject" and "gi.repository" [09:41] I'm looking at that now [09:41] ok [09:42] pitti, if you get an empty todolist after that do you think you would have time today or later this week to look at the retracers? [09:42] we sort of could use them running [09:42] especially now that the new unity etc landed [09:42] yeah, I know [09:43] I hope that there's yet another easy workaround than "set up a root machine in the DC" === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [10:17] rodrigo__, how did you fix the gnome-games build issue? just curious [10:22] seb128, updated some related packages and seems that fixed it, let's see if it works on the server === rodrigo__ is now known as rodrigo_ [10:23] ok [10:30] mvo: hm, softwarecenter/utils.py stilll uses "import gmenu" [10:30] mvo: but I'm looking into trunk anyway to fix some static/GI bindings mix (which causes crashes with pygobject 2.90) [10:35] sigh @ bug 827848 [10:35] Launchpad bug 827848 in firefox "firefox 6 , ubuntu 11.04 64 bit ATI proprietary driver" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827848 [10:35] i wish people would stop tweaking options in about:config, then reporting a bug when everything breaks [10:35]