lynxmanzroysch: yeah I think00:01
lynxmanSpamapS: ping, whenever you have 5 mins, upstart question00:01
cjs226anyone setup nat on an ec2 instance?00:02
SpamapSlynxman: fire away, but I really do only have 5 minutes00:02
lynxmanSpamapS: cool, will take 3 :)00:03
lynxmanSpamapS: trying to setup an upstart job for a process that was using an init.d wrapper, and I need to user the wrapper (it's python calling to internal functions)00:03
SpamapSlynxman: you can have an upstart job with no actual running process to track.. just use pre-start to call the 'thing start' and pre-stop to call the 'thing stop'00:05
lynxmanSpamapS: like this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/667787/00:05
lynxmanSpamapS: smoser suggested the expect fork, right now the upstart job hangs indefinitely as it is, I guess it's due to that00:05
SpamapSFor that, I'd just drop the expect fork, and move the script to pre-start script00:06
SpamapSThe upstart job will work like a place holder for boot/shutdown...00:06
SpamapSbut otherwise will get out of the way.00:06
lynxmanSpamapS: cool, was just a bit concerned of using pre-start instead of start00:06
lynxmanSpamapS: thanks :)00:06
SpamapSlynxman: its a little obtuse, but works wonders for getting things into upstart without fully migrating them. :)00:08
SpamapSbtw, your start on is *WAY* too verbose00:08
SpamapSjust start on runlevel [2345]00:08
lynxmanSpamapS: hehe yeah we were discussing it with smoser last Friday so I wanted to be safe00:08
SpamapSboth of those events are guaranteed to happen before runlevel 200:08
lynxmanSpamapS: cool, will reduce that as well00:08
SpamapSplus this way when you go from runlevel 1 -> 2 .. it will actually get started back up.00:09
smoserso what does 'status' show for a job that has no job ?00:09
lynxmanSpamapS: neat00:09
lynxmansmoser: I guess "nothing to see here, move along"00:10
smoserand why would you not want upstart to correctly track a pid ?00:10
smoserhow would it know if the thing died ?00:10
SpamapSsmoser: its start/running but no pid00:10
smoseri'm generally curious00:10
smosergenerally and genuinely00:10
SpamapSsmoser: because upstart cannot correctly track most pids00:10
SpamapSThey've come up with a good plan for that finally.00:10
lynxmanSpamapS: when are we switching to systemd?00:11
* lynxman hides00:11
SpamapSinstead of 'expect fork' it will be 'expect exit' .. which will watch for the parent's fork, but then wait for it to exit.00:11
zroyschlynxman:  http://pastebin.com/kWFtcb3000:11
SpamapSsmoser: tracking pids is over rated, some services actually do it all by themselves. ;)00:12
SpamapSI'm late.. good luck!00:12
lynxmanzroysch: out of ideas then, you definitely have something weird going on there...00:15
zroyschwell i do have the data backed up00:15
zroyschi guess i could just start over from scratch00:15
lynxmanzroysch: if that's an available option I would go for it, and make both fd this time ;)00:16
lynxmanzroysch: software raid gets confused way too easily00:16
zroyschlynxman: i've never run into this problem before.00:28
lynxmanzroysch: me neither :)00:30
uvirtbotDebian bug 500309 in mdadm "mdadm thinks disk is not large enough to be added, but it is (v1 superblock)" [Grave,Fixed]00:37
zroyschold bug resurfacing?00:37
zroyschi have mdadm v3.1.400:37
zulaxdoes ubuntu server come with lesser repositories?00:38
zulaxcant seem to find git-core00:38
zulaxnm, after an update i got it00:39
pmatulisan update will not get you a new package00:49
twbzulax: it was renamed to "git" about twelve months ago00:52
JRWRHaving a issue with nginx 1.0.5, php-fcgi with php-fpm over a socket is using its cache a little to aggressive, it seems that ALL requests are being send to the same file, which is the one cache file that was made with the first request, my configs http://pastebin.com/RND2E9fY http://pastebin.com/vxbHZf3W http://pastebin.com/xKaKAAgH01:06
twbIs your PHP app sending the appropriate cache-related header fields?01:06
JRWRmy first test was apc.php01:07
JRWRbut if i do apc.php first01:07
JRWRthen do test.php01:07
JRWRit will show what apc.php sent to nginx01:07
twbDunno, then01:07
twbYou could try #nginx and/or ##php, too01:08
JRWRhttp://survivorzero.com:82/apc.php then http://survivorzero.com:82/test.php01:08
JRWRtest.php doesnt exist01:08
JRWRand its showing the contents from apc.php01:08
JRWRis the only cache file01:11
JRWRno matter what you call it will serve that file01:11
JRWRwhats fun is that d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e = md5("")01:12
JRWRthats the hash its stored in the cache01:12
JRWRso... i dont think the cache has a clue to what the request URI is01:12
uvirtbotNew bug: #827681 in cobbler (universe) "Cobbler does not generate pxelinux.cfg files for ARM" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82768101:15
twbARM supports PXE?01:18
twbI thought PXE was an x86ism01:18
JRWRwhy wouldnt it?01:18
twbAs opposed to what I *have* seen on ARM/uboot, which is to hard-code the TFTP server address and the filename01:19
uvirtbotNew bug: #827755 in tftp-hpa (main) "package tftpd-hpa 5.0-21ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82775502:12
NCommanderhallyn: ping, I think there's a serious problem with your cgroups/lxc03:45
uvirtbotNCommander: Error: "implementation" is not a valid command.03:45
* NCommander facepalms03:46
lifelessNCommander: whats aup?03:46
NCommanderlifeless: so lxc uses/requires cgroups to make sure containers are separate from each other, right?03:46
lifelesskey component of the implementation03:47
NCommanderlifeless: right, but then why does LXC work if cgorup namespaces are unavailable? (they were removed with 39(?))03:47
lifelesshttp://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=a77aea92010acf54ad785047234418d5d68772e2 ?03:48
NCommanderThe replacement is clone_process, but that's not enabled by default and there's no way to get cgroups to use them with cgconfigparser03:48
NCommanderlifeless: as it stands, I think cgroups aren't being properly used, but LXC doesn't emit a warning or error (aside from a misleading message in lxc-checkconfig)03:49
lifelessI think this is out of my expertise ;)03:49
NCommander(this is true on i386/amd64 as well)03:50
twblxc is just a thin shim around cgroups03:50
lifelessso I think ns_cgroup isn't needed03:50
NCommandertwb: right, but namespaces areno longer available03:50
lifelessand never really was, it was a convenience03:50
twbBut a default lxc configuration will not virtualize much at all -- e.g. no namespace (containerization) for the filesystem, network stack, etc.03:50
NCommanderlifeless: no, they were replaced with clone_instance03:50
NCommanderwhichis a mounting option when you create the cgroup (there is no way ot specify the necessary flag via cgconigparser)03:51
lifelessI see your point03:51
lifelesslike I say, we've reached the edge of know-how.03:51
NCommandertwb: lxc-checkconfig says namespaces are 'required' although if clone instances are enabled, it says 'enabled' with a new line03:51
lifelessNCommander: can you file a bug @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc ?03:52
lifelessNCommander: serge is pretty active there03:52
NCommanderlxc-stop appears to be broken like this03:52
twblxc-stop is probably broken for unrelated reasons03:52
NCommandertwb: lxc-stop works properly if clone_children is set on the cgroup instances03:53
twbOf course my experience is limited to .32 so I may be talking bullshit03:53
lifelessNCommander: thats extremely interesting03:53
NCommanderI got lxc-stop to work after a few tries. No idea why03:57
lifelessNCommander: so it 'works' first time for me, always has (though it whines but actually does its  thing)04:01
lifelessNCommander: but the lack fo power-off means that processes don't go down quite as they might expect04:01
NCommandertwb: lifeless: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/82779804:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 827798 in lxc "LXC works without warning regardless if cgroup namespaces are properly available" [High,New]04:06
uvirtbotNew bug: #827798 in lxc (main) "LXC works without warning regardless if cgroup namespaces are properly available" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82779804:16
NCommanderthe bot is lagged :-/04:18
rickjaruizslow server 10.04 in hyper-v vm, can anyone help?05:49
rickjaruiznvm, thank you google05:57
twbrickjaruiz: what was the issue?06:03
twbRather, what was the cause and the fix06:03
rickjaruizdisable the frame buffer module: edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf and add the following line:  blacklist vga16fb06:04
rickjaruizevery line to be drawn for a page refresh06:05
twbGod damn I hate that module06:05
twbAnd I hate that it's on by default06:05
twbAll it gives you is 80x30 instead of 80x25, it's not even useful when it DOES work :-/06:05
rickjaruizanyway to turn off before installation?06:06
twbrickjaruiz: during lucid install, no.  Post-install and I *think* in newer d-i installs, yes06:06
rickjaruizor during installation06:06
twbThere's a bug in the lucid installer that prevents all documented techniques from working06:06
rickjaruizyeah it makes install take twice as long06:06
twbOh, also of course you can do the install via serial instead of VGA06:06
rickjaruiz11.04 installed in 10 minutes and 10.04 installed in 2006:06
rickjaruizim running it as a virtual machine in hyper-v06:07
twbIf Microsoft's virtualization technology can't emulate a COM port, it ought to be scrapped.06:07
rickjaruizhow can i get a remote gui file access?06:08
twbI don't know or care; GUIs are not a server issue.06:08
rickjaruizor whats a good way to transfer files between serveres06:08
rickjaruizi new to linu06:08
rickjaruizhow do u install in server?06:09
twbOr scp, which is pretty much the same thing.06:09
twbBoth are components of SSH06:09
rickjaruizso just udo apt-get install openssh-server?06:09
twbrickjaruiz: if you have not already done so, you should read the ubuntu server guide (mentioned in /topic)06:09
twbrickjaruiz: yes.06:09
rickjaruizi mgoing through it and asking questions at the same time06:10
rickjaruizhelps me remember06:10
rickjaruizbut yeah so much to learn from that guide06:12
rickjaruizi have to take it in sections06:12
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KE1HAIs there any known problems / bugs affecting 11.04-Server and Samba? I've been tryng to setup a simple share for hour, and its just not happening, even with SWAT06:37
Gxt4Evening.. Is there a way to have initrd get all ip's from dhcp servers before doing it's iscsistart ?06:41
Gxt4for now , the moment it booots , its gets an ip , then immediately tries to make iscsi connections. ending up being unable to connect.06:43
ttxDaviey: about my rootwrap, I think I'll have to defer to Essex, I'm a bit busy atm07:23
ttxDaviey: on the plus side, this will allow to generally discuss security improvements at ODS07:24
ttxDaviey: and nobody strictly asked for it in MIRs afaict07:24
ttxDaviey: thoughts ?07:24
Davieyttx: Well nova MIR hasn't been ack'd yet07:26
ttxDaviey: sure but that wasn't part of it -- anyway, I commit to doing it for Essex, so would be in LTS07:26
DavieyBut yes, apparmour and sudo limitation seemed more favourable to me, but i understood i was overuled on that.07:26
Davieyttx: How much work is involved forking what we had before?07:27
ttxDaviey: I'm almost done with the wrapper -- the devil being in the "almost"07:27
ttxDaviey: also I feel a bit uncomfortable pushing it now07:27
Davieyttx: Having the proof-of-concept published somewhere would allow it to be mentioned in docs.07:28
ttxDaviey: first shot is at https://code.launchpad.net/~ttx/nova/privsep207:28
ttxbut I can't really spend more time on it this week(s), and would like to have it properly testcased07:29
ttxso to do it right, I need more time -- and that time would allow us to discuss how to do it07:29
Davieyttx: Where will this live eventually, packaging branch? contrib/ in upstream or a core part of upstream?07:29
Davieyhey RoyK07:30
ttxDaviey: if we follow what I started, it will live in bin/nova-rootwrap in nova + contrib filter files in Nova.07:30
ttxagain, some discussion around it at ODS sounds like a good idea07:31
ttxI need to work on the registration site now07:31
Davieyttx: Why did you start it from scratch?07:31
ttxDaviey: as opposed to ?07:31
Davieyforking what we used to use07:31
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ttx(1) because there is no way I can write security code in C right and (2) I'd like it to live in Nova07:32
Davieyok, thanks07:32
ttxso that someone adding a sudo command can fix the file07:32
Davieyttx: Thanks for letting me know.07:32
ttxDaviey: that was the result of a discussion with mdeslaur, fwiw07:32
ttxanyway, I prefer not to rush security code :)07:33
Davieyi'll catch up with mdeslaur regarding this, hopefully today.07:33
ttxDaviey: I think it's better to discuss how it's best done, and implement it with plenty of safeguards in essex07:34
Davieyttx: yah07:34
ttxrather than adding one more branch merge proposal to our FF queue07:34
ttx(deadline for feature merges being Monday)07:34
ttxIf I had one more week I would probably have done it07:34
Davieyaw frack07:35
ttxI was a bit optimistic on how much free time I'd get :)07:35
eagles0513875hey guys what is needed to do a remote network installation07:49
Davieyeagles0513875: a good preseed :)08:06
eagles0513875? meaning what08:06
Davieyeagles0513875: entirely hands off, or over SSH>08:06
eagles0513875over ssh08:07
Daviey^^ not the best way IMO.08:07
uvirtbotDaviey: Error: "^" is not a valid command.08:07
Davieyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole <-- much better08:08
eagles0513875humm ok08:08
eagles0513875i just dont want to migrate my keyboard nad monitor over to my room where my server is at hence why im askin08:09
eagles0513875Daviey: so i boot the iso or the bootable usb on the machien im currently on right then follow the steps from there?08:10
Davieyeagles0513875: If you are doing this for the first time, and mainly doing it to save time.. you are better off moving the monitor and keyboard.08:11
twbDaviey: why, because of the 1:1 correspondence with the udeb name?08:12
twbOh, nm, those articles are different.  Thought you were discussing the name of the article08:13
twbThe overssh version is a pita08:14
eagles0513875last question guys i need to back up my current email server which is running dovecot postfix and spamassassin08:14
twbBetter off just put the mini.iso kernel and ramdisk and preseed in the /boot of the unix system you want to blow away08:14
eagles0513875thing is i need to change disks i bought 2x1tb hdds for raid08:15
Davieytwb: Yeah, suggesting against debootstrap - in favour of using the ssh support within d-i08:15
eagles0513875in regards to my question above relating to email08:15
twbThen you reboot, pick d-i from the grub menu, and it'll load into RAM.  At that point, you have everything in RAM and can blow away the HDD you booted from08:15
eagles0513875i just need to backup the postfix conf file the dovecot config and spamassassin config maildir correct and i should be fine08:15
twbdebootstrap has a whole bunch of hairy edge cases like creating /etc/hosts, and it's a PITA to remember all of them08:15
twbAnd if you're using grub, that's a bloody huge nightmare to install via a chroot, unlike extlinux08:16
greppyeagles0513875: as a general rule, I would back up all of /etc, tar -cfp etc.tar /etc, then save the .tar file where you can get to it.08:18
eagles0513875greppy: why though?08:18
eagles0513875guess it woudlnt hurt08:18
greppybecause there have been times when I have remembered that I needed something AFTER I wiped the disk :)08:19
eagles0513875this disk isnt getting whiped08:19
eagles0513875its going into storage08:19
eagles0513875atm my server only has one 750 hdd08:19
greppyand having groups/passwd/shadow, etc backed up is handy08:19
eagles0513875im putting in or hoping to put in 2x1tb hdd raid 108:19
eagles0513875:) thanks for your input greppy :)08:20
greppy*nod* still easier to have a tar ball of all of /etc instead of having to shove the drive into another system to get data off of it.08:20
eagles0513875im gonna take my server offline for a sec to check something08:20
eagles0513875guys is it easy to setup raid if i add a 2nd hdd at a later point in time08:38
philipballewwhat option after ifconfig shows me all avaible interfaces not just the up ones08:39
_rubenphilipballew: don't use ifconfig, it's been depreciated for ages, use the 'ip' command instead .. 'ip link' for all interfaces, 'ip address' for all ip addresses on thos einterfaces, 'ip route' for all routes, etc08:54
_ruben'ip help' and 'man ip' for more info :)08:54
philipballew_ruben, ive never even herd of that command. its better?08:54
eagles0513875_ruben: havent heard of that command either08:55
_ruben'ip' offers way more options than 'ifconfig' and is less braindead .. ifconfig for instance can't see multiple ip addresses per interface, only ip aliases, which basically are a nasty workaround to the actual problem08:57
ikoniaifconfig can see multiple interfaces per interface, no problem09:00
twbip's easier to read, too09:03
_rubenmultiple interfaces per interface ? :)09:03
_rubennice example of flaws: http://paste.ubuntu.com/668056/09:04
philipballewthis conversation is still goin?09:05
twbifconfig's only good feature is that it's available on SUS systems you might have to deal with09:06
twbLike say SCO or Solaris09:06
twbAlthough ISTR they don't have a route(8) that does what you expect, for some reason that functionality is in netstat(8)09:07
_rubentwb: hence lots of people using netstat -r on linxu as well :)09:33
ikoniaI still use netstat -rn for things like the routing table09:33
_ruben`ip r` is so much shorter to type and cleaner output-wise :)09:34
ikonianetstat is clean enough and works on all the platforms I use as a standard format09:35
_rubenand netstat -rn is semi-braindead too, doesnt list source ip address for instance :)09:35
_rubenthen again, to each his own :)09:35
uvirtbotNew bug: #827922 in tomcat6 (main) "On Tomcat6 shutdown web apps do not get shutdown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82792210:45
reisihmm apparently one cannot edit their lp-comment?10:55
_rubensounds more appropriate to be asked in #launchpad i guess :)10:59
Ursinhareisi: no, editing comments isn't possible right now :/11:03
reisiwell if there was a way i guess someone would had shouted, no need to go bully the launchpad crowd :)11:03
Ursinhareisi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/8089511:04
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 80895 in launchpad "comments on bugs/answers/merge proposals/etc cannot be edited" [Low,Triaged]11:04
tdr112hey guys , how would i add a file to a .war file , i tried tar , but it can use war files11:42
lynxmantdr112: war files are zip files, just rename, unzip, add file, rezip, rename11:58
tdr112thanks lynxman12:00
mrryanjohnston_I'm running ubuntu server 11.04 on vmware player. I added a second interface in /etc/network/interface and now I can't resolve outside network addresses. Any insight into this?12:25
mrryanjohnston_Added the second interface by adding the following lines: #Host-Only  /  auto eth1  /  iface eth1 inet dhcp12:25
smbHey, just a quick question: is there something like the ubuntu-desktop^ (task) for the server seed? ubuntu-server^ does not work. Just may be handy sometimes as at least on the desktop normal upgrade sometimes "forgets" to install vital things...12:50
mrryanjohnston_ah, it seems like /etc/resolv.conf is getting re-written12:51
andolsmb: Well, there is a task simply called server, as well as a set of more specific server tasks (openssh, postgres, etc)13:02
andoltasksel --list-tasks13:02
andolEven if they might not give you the exact same thing as  the server install seed.13:03
andol(Don't see anything about the server kernel for one thing.)13:03
smbandol, Ah, cool. So it seems there already is one thing missing here... Well, I usually know when I am missing the kernel... ;) But other things not so much13:04
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smb... hm, not that those would force back useful things like tasksel or command-not-found which were probably removed due to broken dependencies. But ok, I can bring those back...13:11
hggdhDaviey: did you get my comment about -enroll?13:31
hggdhand good morning13:31
Davieyhggdh: i did not :(13:33
Davieyhggdh: where did you send it?13:33
hggdhDaviey: lp:~hggdh2/+junk/cobbler-enroll213:34
Davieyhggdh: will look shortly13:37
DavieyHow is it looking>13:37
hggdhDaviey: seems good (but I still have no clue on how to do the actual config via a postinstall13:39
hggdhwhich is to say, apart from the postinstall (and a man page for it, lintian is not very happy about lacking it), it is ready13:40
Davieyhggdh: db_get :)13:42
Davieyhggdh: you rock13:42
hggdhDaviey: send me what you have, and I will try it13:44
Davieyhggdh: not done yet13:44
hggdhDaviey: k. BTW, I changed the templates slightly, and changed the NIC dialog to a selection13:45
Davieyhggdh: ooo, nice13:46
Davieyhggdh: so it lists all the NIC's?13:46
Davieyhggdh: how much code did that take?13:46
hggdhDaviey: 3 lines in the template :-)13:46
DavieyI put the logic for the nic's as much as possible into C, to try and keep it small.13:47
Davieyhggdh: wow. Is that multi-select?13:47
hggdhDaviey: one thing we might ant to look at is if the user may select more than one interface13:48
hggdhs/ ant/ want/13:48
Davieyhggdh: yeah, i'm not going to be a perfectionist over that TBH13:48
Davieythe main target audience is using it to preseed; or selecting "all"13:49
hggdhman, perfection is an unattainable dream13:49
hggdh'it works' is almost perfect13:49
DavieyHah, landing it is a dream :)13:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #828036 in mysql-5.1 (main) "MySQL daemon keeps dying and restarting when using ssl connections" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82803614:11
smbzul, so today (not sure whether it is because its Wednesday or because I pulled int the virt-host task which added libvirt-bin) bonding comes up ok, though the pbond0 that used to be created is not. PVM seems ok with net. HVM started with xm does fail/hang early trying to do large order allocations of some kind. Started with xl comes up to the point where the IDE emulation wait and resets itself endlessly...14:20
smbzul, Guess I check that again tomorrow... :-P14:20
RoAkSoAxDaviey: ping14:23
DavieyRoAkSoAx: pong14:23
RoAkSoAxDaviey: ok so I got ARM booting, not installing thouhg :)14:24
RoAkSoAxDaviey: but it is in process14:25
uvirtbotNew bug: #828047 in postfix (main) "postfix init script copies smtp_tls_CApath /etc/ssl/certs to /var/spool/postfix/etc/ssl/certs/etc/ssl/certs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82804714:26
CrazyGirhello! I have a 11.04, kvm based VM server with a handful of VMs running. Some should only be accessible via a private network, but not externally addressable, others should get external IPs routed through the VM server. I have the private net working fine (though I did not set this up), and I have seen other systems with a bridge interface setup to allow VMs the ability to hop on the external network/subnet and get DNS pointing at them direct14:33
CrazyGirI'm not sure I fully understand how the bridge and VM server ought to be setup to allow for that14:33
* patdk-wk uses bridges for all of that, private and non-private14:33
CrazyGirguidance / topics to research / etc are all appreciated14:33
CrazyGirpatdk-wk: could you give me an example? is this all configured in /etc/network/interfaces?14:34
CrazyGiror is there VM configuration as well (aside from a VM having brX as its source?)14:34
patdk-wkin my case no, I did it manually14:34
CrazyGirhow do you mean?14:34
patdk-wkvm's would never have a brX14:35
CrazyGirnot as a source if?14:35
patdk-wkmanually = not using a script14:35
CrazyGirpatdk-wk: would you consider /etc/network/interfaces a script?14:35
patdk-wkcrazygir, /etc/network/interfaces is a config for a script, so yes, it's using a script14:36
CrazyGirdoes that configuration (your manual method) persist across reboots?14:36
CrazyGirdo you use puppet for system management at all?14:36
CrazyGircause I don't really see that working if you are leveraging puppet14:36
CrazyGirthat said, I would be curious how you did it14:37
CrazyGirI'm sure I can figure out how that translates14:37
patdk-wkwho said I used puppet?14:37
CrazyGirI'm just going into uncharted territory at this point and unsure how the pieces I understand connect14:37
patdk-wkI don't think puppet even existed in 8.0414:37
patdk-wkit seems to be documented pretty good in the manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking14:37
CrazyGirI didn't say you did, I asked if you did14:37
CrazyGirso using bridges is the way to do this?14:39
patdk-wkusing bridges is an easy way to do it14:39
UrsinhaDaviey: would you be able to generate the list of bugs we have in http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html other than using tags?14:39
patdk-wkdunno if it's the best for your case or not, but generally it's simple and easy, and repeatable14:39
* CrazyGir nods14:39
patdk-wkif you just think of each bridge as a seperate switch14:39
patdk-wkand you plug the vm's into those switchs (bridges)14:39
CrazyGirfantastic, I'll dig a little deeper here and see how well this will fit14:40
CrazyGiryea, that makes sense14:40
CrazyGirbut how to create that in linux does not always make as much sense to me14:40
CrazyGirI would be able to work my way through most all of this setup on OpenBSD with the manpages only14:40
CrazyGirthat doesn't happen in linux for me for some reason :)14:41
* CrazyGir shrug14:41
CrazyGireither way, I'll see where this gets me, thanks patdk-wk14:41
Gxt4the moment i add a second NIC to a system that boots over iscsi , initrd screws me over.  are there docs somewhere on how to force initrd to either pause till both my nics have an ip before continuing with iscsi , or force it to only start "iscsistart" when a particular nic has an ip.14:41
Gxt4i have tried scsi-if=ethX14:42
Gxt4but nada14:42
Gxt4if i stick in the cable in the second nic it's broken.14:43
Gxt4i have tried 3 different systems btw14:43
patdk-wksecond nic was added after the first one? and is normally called eth1?14:43
Gxt4it's the same14:43
Gxt4if i install with eth0 or eth 1 as a primary14:44
Gxt4or if i do an install with only 1 and then add it later14:44
Gxt4even if ubuntu server is instyaled and configured with only 1 nic , the moment i add the second and it has a cable , it fucks up in initrd14:45
Gxt4it gets an ip for the other nic14:45
Gxt4and tried to contact my target14:45
Gxt4through the other interface14:45
Gxt4which is on another subnet and has no iscsi targets14:46
patdk-wkguess the iscsi script grabs first to get dhcp working14:46
patdk-wkdunno, would have to check the iscsi initrd scripts14:46
Gxt4it should wait till all nics are up ..14:47
CrazyGir     you could have it run last?14:47
Gxt4what do you mean Crazy ?14:48
Gxt4Yes , it all works peachy on all systems untill i stick in another card14:48
patdk-wkgxt4, not really, it should know what one is used for iscsi maybe14:48
hallynDaviey: is libcgroup not in the list of packages server team watches?  I don't see new bugs announced here by the bot...14:48
zulsmb: cool i hope to get to it next week at a conference this week14:48
Gxt4well yes14:48
Gxt4@patdk-wk initrd should keep a record of which nic the target is on14:49
smbzul, ack14:49
Gxt4@patdk-wk aparently it doesn't ..14:50
CrazyGirGxt4: can you do a static network configuration14:50
Davieyhallyn: no.. not as yet, you think it should be?14:50
Gxt4@crazy once it's past initrd it's all peachy14:50
Gxt4@ i can configure ip's via dhcp or fixed then14:51
CrazyGirdunno, I'm not a ubuntu guru14:51
Gxt4@ the problems are before os is loaded14:51
hallynDaviey: well it affects lxc and libvirt.  so maybe.  Of course, so do most things in foundations :)14:52
zulhallyn: what does?14:52
hallynzul: ^14:53
zulah ok14:53
Davieyhallyn: I wonder if this is best on your personal list?14:53
hallynbut maybe it's just my problem and no one else here woudl care to see them14:53
Davieyhallyn: The rest of us will no doubt have NFI how to triage those issues.14:54
hallynDaviey: when it breaks it can break your whole openstack/uec/ensemble/whatever stack...  it definately seems server related to me.14:55
Davieyhallyn: argh, ok14:55
hallyn(as it's doing right now - ask smoser :)14:56
hallynDaviey: but ok, if noone else is going to bother looking anyway then forget it14:56
hallyni have a few more reboot tests to do, biab14:56
Davieyhallyn: added14:57
hallynDaviey: tbh my sense is that libcgroup has fundamental flaws, and for our deafults we would be better off with a simple upstart job that mounts the cgroups14:58
hallynmaybe i should discuss on -devel...14:58
smoserhallyn, did you not author that ?14:58
hallynsmoser: no!14:58
smoseryou're talking about cgroup-bin, right?15:00
hallynand libcgroup1 in general15:01
Davieyhallyn: added now.. it's a topic for UDS i think15:01
hallynwhat is a topic for uds?15:01
hallynoh, you mean it *should* be15:01
Davieyhallyn: the flaws and perhaps an upstart job.15:01
Davieyhallyn: really your judgement on this matters more than mine, is it too late in the cycle to look at switching?15:03
Davieybased on reward/gain, potential instability and work we already have pending15:03
hallynDaviey: its' past FFE at any rate :).  I don't see where the cgroup-lite package could cause instability, and15:04
hallynI can see a lot of time being spent working around cgroup-bin issues.  And since lxc now depends on it, that tiem will have to be spent15:04
Davieyhallyn: it's not past FFE :)  it's past FF, but with a FFe get out of jail card.15:05
hallynI don't know of anything which actually depends on cgred or cgroup-bin.  They just dpeend on cgroups being mounted15:05
Daviey(everyone gets issued one get out of jail card, use it wisely)15:05
Davieyutlemming: around?15:07
hallynDaviey: oh yeah, there's also all the cpu time and batt life which cgclassify consume :)15:08
hallynanyway, boot time15:08
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hallynDaviey: no, before i do, lemme ask - do you mind looking at and pushing http://people.canonical.com/~serge/ipxe.debdiff15:11
* Daviey looks15:11
Davieyhallyn: Do reverse depends need handling, and/or a kvm-pxe transistional package?15:12
Davieyutlemming: Have you had a chance to look at the ipxe bug you were touching?15:18
RoAkSoAxzul: ok it works :)15:37
RoAkSoAxzul: arm/cobbler pxe15:37
zulRoAkSoAx: that didnt take you long :)15:38
RoAkSoAxzul: nah :) though there's one thing that i'm gonna change within cobbler for ARM archs which is to create the PXE file in the way of <MAC in uppercase> instead of 01-<mac lowercase> because u-boot is not fully compliant to standars just yet15:40
zulRoAkSoAx: i just saw the bug report for it15:40
jose__can anybody help me with a samba problem?15:40
RoAkSoAxzul: cool there's a patch already15:41
zulRoAkSoAx: our delta is getting quite large can you send that patch upstream as well15:42
zulim going to do a new snapshot next week15:42
jose__iam sharing files with samba in an Ubuntu 10.04 server, when i copy/write a file in the server speeds reach 10mb/s both sides, but i work with acces files and its painful becauso of the slowness15:46
RoAkSoAxzul: ok cool, I'll send a few patches over by the end of the week15:50
jose__forever alone, nobody help neither in samba irc15:55
bkerensajose_: Whats the problem I might be able to help15:56
hallynDaviey: how would we do a transitional package?15:57
Davieyhallyn: is kvm-pxe going awol?15:57
hallynyes, but i'm not sure when15:58
Davieyhallyn: this cycle?15:58
hallynif we want to wait on ahving ipxe confict-with kvm-pxe,15:58
hallynthen that woudl be fien - but installing the symlinks kvm needs should be done asap15:58
hallynDaviey: i don't know.15:58
Davieyhallyn: agreed, just thinking ahead.15:58
hallynI don't know who was going to push that button15:58
hallynDaviey: do you know that there are things depending on kvm-pxe?15:59
Davieyusually, kvm falls onto our team :)15:59
hallynbut this is technically 'etherboot'15:59
hallynand it's been kicked by debian15:59
Davieyhallyn: just qemu-common and testdrive15:59
Davieynot checked for reverse recommends tho15:59
hallyni thought qemu-common only suggested it?16:00
hallynanyway my next step was gong ot be to update kvm to recommend ipxe and drop kvm-pxe suggests16:00
hallynsame should be done with testdrive16:00
hallynbut i don't knwo if that's jumping the gun16:00
hallynrmadison -u debian etherboot shows it's out of sid16:01
hallynwhich, iiuc, means it's effectively unmaintained...16:01
Davieyi expect it is16:01
hallynand, i'm growing more and more convinced i want to create cgroup-lite pkg :)16:02
Davieyhallyn: i don't think it's really a feature change, as the contents are just moving into a different package16:02
* hallyn watches the hour hand laugh as it keeps moving on and leaving my productivity behind16:02
Davieyhallyn: Probably best to discuss the merits on a public FFe bug, subscribing Stephan16:02
smbhallyn, hu?16:03
hallynsmb: nm, carry on, sorry :)16:03
* smb goes back to sleep16:03
hallynDaviey: an FFE for dropping etherboot right?16:03
hallynDaviey: do you midn in the meantime cherrypicking the good part of the debdiff?16:03
Davieyhallyn: I think it looks ok.. i assume you have tried it?16:04
hallynof course :)16:07
hallynusing it the last two days16:07
stgraberDaviey: ?16:07
hallynstgraber: debian has dropped etherboot in favor of ipxe16:08
hallynstgraber: we'd like to post FFE to do the same16:08
hallynDaviey: suggested i subcribe you16:08
Davieyhmm, that was in regards to cgroups - that i thought stgraber had an interest in16:10
hallynin that case,16:11
hallynstgraber: then i guess Daviey was suggesting i file an FFE bug to create cgroup-lite package16:12
lynxmanDaviey: ping16:12
Davieylynxman: o/16:12
hallynstgraber: which would conflict with cgroup-bin, and just ship an upstart job to mount all controllers separateuly under /sys/fs/cgroup16:12
stgraberhallyn: what would be the difference with cgroup-bin?16:12
Davieyhallyn: Ah, you are quite correct kvm-pxe is only a suggests of qemu-common16:13
hallynstgraber: cgroup-bin reclassifies all tasks, and does so in a racy way16:13
hallynand enables cgclassifyd by default which is pretty heavyweight given that noone uses it16:14
lynxmanDaviey: I've got the swift scripts working, finally, you want a debdiff?16:14
lynxmanDaviey: so bug + debdiff and such16:14
Davieylynxman: hell.. yes.. :)16:14
hallynlxc and libvirt only want the cgroups to be mounted.  They don't want cgroup-bin mucking with things under there.16:14
Davieylynxman: you could propose a branch to the shared packaging branch16:14
Davieylynxman: ~openstack-ubuntu-packagers16:14
lynxmanDaviey: that would be option 216:14
lynxmanDaviey: you prefer a branch? :)16:14
Davieylynxman: well i'd have to turn your debdiff into a branch myself otherwise :)16:15
lynxmanDaviey: alright, branch it is16:15
hallynstgraber: (biam, reboot time) if you want convincing, take a quick look at the libcgroup bug list - some are fundamental, and i don't really want to force all lxc users to run that16:18
jose__<bkerensa>  iam sharing files with samba in an Ubuntu 10.04 server, when i copy/write a file in the server speeds reach 10mb/s both sides, but i work with acces files and its painful becauso of the slowness16:25
bkerensajose__: Unfortunately I do not use Samba but could it be network related?16:26
* SpamapS stretches16:28
* SpamapS slogs into the daily swamp of email with his DeleteKey-2001 pumping out useless bytes as fast as possible16:29
jose__<bkerensa> could be, i asked also in samba channel16:30
Ursinhatough day16:35
lynxmanUrsinha: hope you still have energy16:35
SpamapSUrsinha: too many bugs? ;)16:35
DavieyUrsinha: are you claiming there a defects in the magic we do?16:40
ivoksDaviey: is there anything i can do for you guys? i have some free cycles...16:44
ivoksDaviey: nothing critical, cause i might get pulled out without notice :)16:44
Davieyivoks: Awesome!16:45
Davieyivoks: You used to touch postfix, right?16:46
Davieyivoks: well logwatch could appreciate your love, bug 809753 :)16:47
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 809753 in logwatch "logwatch bug in postfix filter" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80975316:47
ivokshehe ok16:47
Daviey<-- hero of the day, ivoks16:49
Davieyerr arrow the wrong way around16:49
uvirtbotNew bug: #828061 in libcgroup (universe) "libvirt-cgred-wait.conf is broken" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82806116:51
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uvirtbotNew bug: #828186 in cloud-init "cloud-init should output some network debug info" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82818617:21
ivoksDaviey: debdiff attached17:39
uvirtbotNew bug: #827279 in libcgroup (universe) "Several problems in cgclear" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82727917:50
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sidneihallyn, around?18:02
bernhard2 is it best tosetup exim4 with maildir ??18:03
ivoksi preferr postfix and maildir18:05
bernhard2basicly need an email server with smtp, imap18:10
patdk-wkyay, dovecot, postfix :)18:11
ivokswe have that configured for you :)18:12
ivoksjust install mail-stack-delivery18:12
ivoksanswer couple of questions and you are done18:12
bkerensapostfix for the win18:13
bernhard2how do i uninstall exim4 ?18:13
patdk-wkapt-get purge exim418:15
uvirtbotNew bug: #828237 in openldap (main) "slapd forks and exits before it is listening, creating a race between listening and any dependent services" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82823718:15
JasioKHeya folks, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and it seems my postfix doesn't want to work with webmail- third-party access via Outlook/Thunderbird etc is fine but anytime I try to load webmail I get "An error occurred listing mail in this folder : Failed to connect to localhost:143 : Connection timed out". I can't seem to find what would be causing the issue since the postfix/dovecot files look fine, and there isn't anything blocking the port.18:16
hallynsmoser: if you're interested, a proposed fix for the libvirt not starting VMS after boot is at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcgroup/+bug/82806118:17
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 828061 in libcgroup "libvirt-cgred-wait.conf is broken" [Critical,In progress]18:17
JasioKI looked into /var/log/mail.log and there are no errors being reported.18:17
TheEvilPhoenixanyone know of any Ubuntu Server Certifications?  got a friend who wants to get one.18:17
hallynsidnei: i am.  i'll be slow answering, but i'm here18:18
sidneihallyn, i'm hitting #819621, i guess lxcguest wasn't updated in the ppa although it's marked as fix-released?18:19
PiciJasioK: The webmail package that you are using might be helpful to know, as well as if this issue just started or if this is the initial setup.18:20
JasioKPici, sorry- I am using webmin (virtualmin/usermin package) and the issue just started.18:21
hallynsidnei: uh yeah, not fixed in ppa.  ppa's don't get autosynced18:22
hallynsidnei: which ppa+release are you using?18:22
sidneihallyn, host is oneiric, container is lucid18:23
ivoksJasioK: 143 is imap, not postfix18:23
sidneihallyn, so lxc-create added the ubuntu-virt ppa iiuc18:23
JasioKivoks, so it would be an issue with dovecot then as thati s my imap server.18:24
JasioKthat is*18:24
ivoksJasioK: or webmail, yes18:25
JasioKLooking through /var/log/syslog and running 'dovecot --error-log' and reading through the files- I don't see any errors.18:30
hallynsidnei: can you file a bug against lxc to backport lxcguest to lucid?18:35
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sidneihallyn, sure.18:35
hallynsidnei: thanks.  And then I'll update the templates not to use the ppa.18:35
hallynThat's just wrong18:35
bernhard2 how can i check if i have dovecot installed ?18:36
sidneihallyn, bug #82826218:38
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 828262 in lxc "please backport lxcguest to lucid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82826218:38
hallynsidnei: thx18:39
hallynSpamapS: ^  I don't know how this is actually handled.  I assume it's not just an SRU?18:40
hallyneh, it's probably just not possible18:40
hallynsidnei: ^ just a warning.  i doubt we can introduce a new binary package.  but i'm going udner the 'cant hurt to ask' philospophy18:41
CrazyGirhiya, in the following notes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking  under the bridge setup, "To work around this, add the following to your bridge configuration:  post-up ip link set br0 address f4:6d:04:08:f1:5f" <--- where exactly is this added?18:41
sidneihallyn, np18:41
hallynsidnei: so lemme upload new version for the ppa this afternoon.  hopefully be up by tonight18:42
sidneihallyn, awesome, thanks!18:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #828262 in lxc (main) "please backport lxcguest to lucid" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82826218:46
CrazyGiranyone know about post-up?18:50
andolCrazyGir: Such as in /etc/network/interfaces?18:52
CrazyGirandol: see my question noted above18:53
CrazyGirI am primarily confirming this because it is not clear enough for me to feel comfortable restarting networking on a remote system, is that wiki saying to add the post-up to /etc/network/interfaces?18:54
andolCrazyGir: Yes, that would be an entry you'd add to /etc/network/interfaces, for the br0 interface, with the same indention as the rest of the options (bridge_fd, bridge_wait, etc)18:57
andolCrazyGir: Note that I am only interpreting the wiki page and the syntax. I have no idea whatever it actually is a good idea or not to add that post-up command.18:58
Davieyivoks: you rock star18:59
CrazyGirandol: perfect, thank you for that confirmation19:02
hggdhDaviey: good evening, care to have a look at bug 795159?19:03
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 795159 in ajaxterm "[MIR] ajaxterm" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79515919:03
SpamapShallyn: its handled via ubuntu backports19:10
jcastroRoAkSoAx: woo! I found a cobbler bug I think!19:12
RoAkSoAxjcastro: hehe :) what's the bug?19:16
RoAkSoAxor what seems to be the problme?19:16
stgraberhallyn: any idea of why/how cgroup-bin is breaking my laptop suspend? :)19:18
stgraberhallyn: I just spent 3 hours trying to debug that issue assuming it was kernel related and went as far back as Natty's kernel without finding a single working kernel.19:19
stgraberhallyn: then looked at what I installed since I reinstalled my laptop 2 days ago and noticed that removing cgroup-bin fixes everything :)19:19
stgraberhallyn: with cgroup-bin installed, I can suspend once, then resume fine but second time I suspend, my laptop will just hang in the "flickering sleep LED" mode on tty1 (lenovo laptop)19:20
uvirtbotNew bug: #828288 in cobbler (universe) "Cobbler errors while importing mini.isos" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82828819:21
hallynstgraber: hm, there was a bug about that.19:21
hallynstgraber: i thought it was fixed19:21
hallynstgraber: presumably libcgroup moved kthreadd or somesuch into another cgroup and shouldn't have.19:22
hallynstgraber: have i convinced you yet that we should ahve cgroup-lite package? :)19:22
stgraberhallyn: yes :) enough time wasted trying to fix it :)19:23
hallynthe problem is it's not just one 'it'.19:23
stgrabergoing for lunch now, definitely +1 on getting a working cgroup-lite package19:24
hallynstgraber: ok, i'll give it a shot once i get lxc backported to lucid for ppa.  i'll sling the result over to you19:25
hallynstgraber: and i guess that suspend bug shoudl be re-opened.  i think i just marked it fixed today :)19:25
uvirtbotNew bug: #828311 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script post-installation installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82831119:56
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Davieyhggdh: will do20:08
Davieyhggdh: looks good, is there a branch/debdiff?20:11
hggdhDaviey: there was ;-)20:11
hggdhbut I found there was a problem with my override_dh_auto_install20:12
hggdhand am looking at it now20:12
Davieyhggdh: ah.. good stuff!20:12
Davieyhggdh: is it easier to patch, rather than use a rules stamp?20:12
hggdhDaviey: undortunately, no... the build is auto-adding /usr/share/python/runtime.d/*, and this is what kees wants out20:13
hggdhI could simply completely override bloody dh_auto_install, but this seems rather crude20:14
uvirtbotNew bug: #828320 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.3 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess installiertes post-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82832020:16
ChmEarl11.10 kernel is now at 3.0.0-8.9.. any chance for it to get to 3.1 anytime before release?20:19
RoyKChmEarl: out of curiosity, what's new in 3.1?20:20
ChmEarlRoyK, its the xen patches I need20:20
RoyKguest or host?20:20
RoyKthat is - is host xen in official kernel at all?20:21
ChmEarlRoyK, yes host/dom0 -- there is a vga patch in 3.120:21
ChmEarlRoyK, some 11.10 users report stable dom0 and nvidia accel driver works normally20:22
RoyKdidn't think xen dom0 would ever make it into the mainline...20:22
* RoyK hasn't really been reading much news about the issue, though, kvm works well20:23
ChmEarlRoyK, its a matter of configuration and setup to get it working with 11.10 kernel20:23
ChmEarlit=xen dom020:23
RoyKis xen dom0 "better" than kvm these days?20:24
RoyKI mean - has anyone tried to compare the two?20:24
ChmEarlRoyK, now that dom0 is in mainline kernel, you could setup kvm vs xen tests and find out in less than 1 day20:25
ChmEarlI satisfied myself that xen is better for my use20:25
* RoyK only uses LTS releases for his servers20:27
CrazyGirChmEarl: in what ways did you find xen better for your use?20:28
ChmEarlCrazyGir,  paravirtual network speed is double for linux guests20:28
ChmEarlin xen20:28
RoyKChmEarl: are there/will there be any cluster/failover possibilities in Xen from ubuntu now?20:30
rickjaruizim using "top" with over 1gb used and i dont understand how to check what is using it20:30
patdk-wkthe kvm network couldn't perform?20:30
RoyKrickjaruiz: ps axfv20:30
RoyKrickjaruiz: and 'free'20:30
RoyKrickjaruiz: even though the "used" amount of memory is high, as reported by top, it's usually far lower due to memory used for caching20:31
ChmEarlRoyK, there is a launchpad team to package latest hypervisor for 11.10, but I'm not sure about cluster software20:31
rickjaruizwell there should be nothing running atm20:31
patdk-wkfree -m :)20:31
RoyKrickjaruiz: free will tell you20:31
patdk-wkChmEarl, you tested with virtio_net?20:32
RoyKrickjaruiz: !pastebin free20:32
ChmEarlpatdk-lap, don't remember... I tested on Opensuse20:32
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patdk-wk188megs used20:33
RoyKyeah, looks normal20:33
patdk-wkseems really high, if *nothing* is running20:33
patdk-wkmine is normally <50megs20:33
RoyKlots of memory spent for caching, but that'll be released if a process requests it20:33
rickjaruizwell mysql is running, nothing conencted to it now though20:33
rickjaruizi c20:34
RoyKrickjaruiz: pastebin "ps axfv"20:34
rickjaruizps axfv20:35
RoyKso mysqld is eating 45 megs20:36
RoyKshould be quite ok20:37
hggdhDaviey: I cannot get the $#%@ rules to delete the directory20:37
rickjaruizso in free, im looking at used buffers/cache, for what is really used in memory?20:38
Davieyhggdh: why not delete it in a patch?20:39
hggdhDaviey: how could it be done?20:39
Davieyhggdh: sorry, perhaps i'm missing the issue..20:40
RoyKrickjaruiz: free shows "free" memory as unallocated. unallocated memory is usually not good. memory allocated for caching is good20:40
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rickjaruizim just kind of confused which one to look at, that tells me how much ram i readlly had left20:41
hggdhDaviey: kees would like /usr/share/python/runtime.d/ajaxterm.rtupdate *not* to be there; this directory & content is auto-created by dh_*20:41
bernhard2trying to make exim4 dovecot work with TLS but receive this message when i test it: Host did not advertise STARTTLS20:42
hggdhDaviey: I thought I could delete it by overriding dh_auto_install, but it does not seem to work20:42
hggdhDaviey: so... except for this rather small detail, it is ready20:42
RoyKrickjaruiz: -/+ buffers/cache:     188172    186196020:42
RoyKthe latter is the amount of memory not actively in use20:43
Davieyhggdh: It should allow you to remove.. are you expanding the location correctly?20:43
hggdhDaviey: I believe I am, but of course I can be wrong. The branch is at lp:~hggdh2/ubuntu/oneiric/ajaxterm/bug79515920:43
rickjaruizthanks royk20:43
hggdhand I have been looking at this for so long I am probably incapable of seeing the obvious20:44
RoyKrickjaruiz: sorry - how much is free20:44
RoyKsame thing20:44
mande01Hi, I'm wanting to install a ubuntu on a USB or SD card, and have it run from there. What changes should I make to the install to allow this to work successfully?20:48
mande01P.S. ubuntu server20:48
RoyKmande01: it should work without changes20:50
mande01Is there a way I could get it to run from RAM or stop writting log files?20:52
RoyKmande01: it won't run out of RAM by using an SD card - RAM usage is the same20:57
RoyKeven if you install it on an SD card, or a SAS drive, or an old SCSI drive, or an ATA drive or even a floppy (if you could fit it there)20:58
* RoyK vouches for core memory20:58
mande01Royk: sorr y I'm not making myself clear.21:00
RoyKthen please explain :)21:00
mande01Royk: I want to install the system on an SD card but not have a lot of read or writes going to the card so it will last and be more robust.21:01
RoyKyou can use tmpfs21:01
mande01something like freenas, but having it run from ram21:01
RoyKmeaning a dynamic ram drive21:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #756499 in libcgroup (universe) "cgroup-bin breaks suspend to RAM" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75649921:01
RoyKmande01: most SD cards have wear levelling in them, so it'll last quite some time21:02
RoyKmande01: and if you make sure the system doesn't log everything very verbose, it'll probably work well for quite some time21:02
RoyKAFAIK wear levelling became standard about 3-5 years ago, perhaps longer21:03
RoyKmande01: generally the root is rarely written to except for logs and swap. you can disable the swap if you like, although it might be a bad idea21:06
RoyKfor the logs, just configure syslog not to log to verbosely21:07
bernhard2Configuring Exim4 to use TLS. Configured 03_exim4-config_tlsoptions but when i restart exim4 and check with:  exim4 -bP | grep tls_21:18
bernhard2i get this output..     http://pastebin.com/VYwTEihg (it does not show what i have configured) when i test get this message  Host did not advertise STARTTLS21:18
bernhard2can anyone check my exim4 issue above..21:27
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jvargasI plan to setup VNC server on ubuntu 11.04, so that the user doesn't need to start an X session if server is rebooted. I mean that VNC oculd be always running.22:26
jvargasis it possible and which vnc server setup should I follow?22:26
ChmEarljvargas,  vnc4server xauth22:49
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hallynstgraber: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/cgroup-lite    that seems to be working for me with libvirt at least.22:52
stgraberhallyn: ok. I'll grab it and test with arkose and lxc (though I guess you tested regular lxc already)22:58
hallynstgraber: heh, no i didn't.  lxc-create is spinning atm22:59
hallyngr.  W: Failure while installing base packages.  This will be re-attempted up to five times.23:00
bernhard2how can i check if Exim was compiled with OpenSSL (or GnuTLS) support23:06
hallynstgraber: eh, it needs a few tweaks yet23:24
stgraberhallyn: ok. Let me know when I can test it23:25
hallynstgraber: will do23:25
hggdhDaviey: finallt, bug 795159 is ready for review23:46
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 795159 in ajaxterm "[MIR] ajaxterm" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79515923:46
Davieyhggdh: looking23:48

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