=== Hornet- is now known as Hornet [05:12] whats the diffrence between 'su' command and 'sudo su -' command ??? [05:35] E.NET [06:06] morning all [06:09] lo [06:35] Morning [06:36] * TheOpenSourcerer wonders if AlanBell is wake yet. Perhaps he has been celebrating the UK loco reapproval with oodles of pimms. [06:38] TheOpenSourcerer: yes [06:38] Ambiguous answer ;-) [06:38] I had about a pint and a half of pimms+lemonade [06:55] at this time in the morning? [06:56] AlanBell: congrats on the re-approval, apologies i couldn't make the meeting, someone decided to have fake contractions last night ;) [06:57] oh morning all [07:09] Morning all [07:09] They are great aren't they MooDoo [07:09] morning [07:12] diplo: fake contractions? [07:12] yep [07:12] :) [07:12] diplo: not when you're at 8+15 :) [07:14] Been a few years for me now, but the unknown bit gets the heart pumping a bit [07:14] :) [07:15] diplo: yup :D shame as i really wanted to come to the re-approval meeting...... [07:15] lol [07:15] lol, I like your priorities :P [07:15] No IRC on the phone ? [07:15] diplo: oh yeah, you know how it is, think you're wifes in labour and PANIC!!!!! :D [07:15] lol [07:16] Gah, stupid ffmpeg [07:18] wassup? [07:19] morning [07:19] morning [07:20] MooDoo: i gather you had an exciting day huh? :) [07:21] christel: evening, yes, false alarm though :S AGAIN!!!! lol [07:21] greetings [07:22] the joys of braxton-hicks! [07:22] Anyone familiar familiar with subsonic? just dl it but do not see it anywhere in menu. Alt+F2 and "subsonic" doesn't launch it either. anyone? [07:22] christel: that's the one :D [07:23] christel: but we're so close now, i could be the real thing :) [07:23] :) [07:23] super exciting times ahead :D [07:23] christel: oh yes, little brother is dead excited, albeit it VERY clingy :D [07:24] :D [07:24] livingdaylight, Open a terminal and try running it rather than alt f2 [07:24] So you can see any output [07:25] diplo cheers [07:25] livingdaylight@pebble:~$ subsonic [07:25] Started Subsonic [PID 2408, /var/subsonic/subsonic_sh.log] [07:25] What does that mean? [07:26] looks like it's ran :) [07:26] "Started Subsonic" what do you think that means? [07:26] livingdaylight: it looks like it's started as a daemon [07:26] ps -ef | grep subsonuc see if it's running :) [07:27] It's also outputting to a log file, maybe worth seeing if anything in there [07:28] ok, guys, apparently its running but can only be accessed from a browser [07:28] I'll check into that [07:37] popey: ffmpeg seems to have decided to crop the videos I compressed overnight, even though I've not put a crop thing in === deegee__ is now known as drussell [07:39] daubers: crop by how much? [07:39] enough to take the presenter off the right hand side and just show the slides [07:39] odd [07:39] did it change aspect ratio? [07:39] No, same aspect [07:40] Done it to all 13 videos I was compressing [07:40] I'd do one at a time then ☺ [07:42] popey: Was fine until I added a deinterlace step [07:43] * daubers wonders if a compressor cluster would be quicker] [07:45] Is it me, or is this startting to look a little bit lcars with the thick darker lines running around the edges http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=717 [07:45] looks too busy to me [07:45] also.. having pirated films in a screenshot fail [07:47] also the black blob next to pidgin where he painted by accident [07:48] lol popey I hadn't noticed that [07:48] Anyone let him know ? [07:48] seriously, it's not far from that to this http://www.lcars.org.uk/ [07:49] :o [07:50] that would make it more Enterprise-y [07:51] NCC-1701-D Enterprise-y :) [07:51] I for one welcome our new Federation overlords...... [07:52] kaplah! oops damn found out :) [08:07] Ug Ug [08:08] I think I'm still recovering from the weekend [08:08] :) [08:08] poor bigcalm [08:10] Thank goodness that it's a 4 day week [08:10] Good morning my dear christel :) [08:10] Good morning <3 [08:15] thats not an actual screenshot btw ;) just a mockup [08:15] of what users might have [08:16] sure [08:16] that makes it worse [08:16] someone actually _thought_ about what goes on screen rather than just pressing print-screen [08:20] fun little fact that no one has picked up on but i spent like, an entire *day* working on! if you change your wallpaper, we pick out a colour from it and change the colour of unity to suit :) [08:20] he says that in the post [08:21] [Paul Mellors] Movies on demand. - http://paulmellors.blogspot.com/2011/08/movies-on-demand.html [08:23] morning all [08:23] Morning [08:24] morning [08:24] <^aDaM> Morning all.. :) [08:39] MooDoo, have you tried handbrake as well to rip dvd's ? I prefer it over acid rip [08:40] diplo: nope, i did actually just try the first one i found and it seemed to work ok :) i'll look into it though cheers :) [08:40] handbrake is good [08:41] yeah it looks it, i'll give it a try [08:43] anything to stop my son driving me nuts ;) [08:45] mini-itx gave me a tracking number, the tracking number gives you a specified time when the item will be delivered of about an hour, taking all the fun out of refreshing the page constantly [08:45] MooDoo: what's he doing? [08:46] popey: ah just normal toddler stuff, want to watch that dvd, 2 mins later, no that one, not that one no that one....lol [08:46] "no" is the answer [08:46] "You watch this one or none at all" [08:46] i know i know, just wanted a better solution than changing dvds all the time :) it's the ggek in me :D [08:47] MooDoo, exactly the reason why I started 'backing' mine up [08:47] "you watch this one or i'm putting on the live stream of parliament" [08:47] :D [08:47] Also the problem with finger prints all over the DVD's [08:47] zzzzzzzzzzzzzz [08:47] ooo [08:48] minecraft 1.8 will have beef! [08:48] love film has streaming of kids shows if you have that and a ps3 or something [08:49] popey, i thought minecraft already had beef? from punching cows? [08:50] that reminds me, not looked at the map in ages [08:50] nope [08:52] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCm6cPkLBJY [08:53] oooh pork [08:53] gord, do you have LoveFilm ? [08:53] diplo, yup [08:53] Been thinking about trying it for ages [08:53] Do you use it on your PS3 ? [08:54] yup [08:57] Might try there trial thing on there then [08:57] I'd rather that than get Sky Movies I think === denny- is now known as denny [08:59] Which package are you on ? [09:00] iruno [09:00] one that gives me streaming and two disks [09:08] popey: looks like pork will be stackable as well? [09:09] hmmm [09:12] Things that makes you go... [09:21] [Jonathan Riddell] 245 Desktop Summit Names to Find - http://blogs.kde.org/node/4470 [09:36] morning boys and girls :) [09:38] o/ [09:59] good morning everyone. [09:59] hi [10:00] hi MooDoo [10:05] hey guys im just setting up lamp on ubuntu server - im doing sudo tasksel - how do i pick lamp in ssh. I press enter and it just shuts down [10:10] dont worry i worked it out, space bar ;) [10:15] :D [10:19] hehe i like that it shuts down when you press enter [10:19] cos i mean, who would do that?! [10:20] judgey: spooky, i've just ran that myself :) [10:20] lol [10:22] u installed this yet? [10:22] sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin [10:22] i can not load it in my web page [10:22] Didn't know they had packaged it :) shows how little I use it [10:22] http://ip/phpmyadmin [10:23] Had a look in error logs ? [10:23] hehe [10:23] it installed ok by the looks of it just says it aint there [10:23] when i try and load teh page [10:24] Restarted apache ? [10:24] tryed that to :| [10:24] /etc/init.d/apache2 restart [10:24] /var/log/apache2/error.log [10:24] ? [10:24] See if any errors [10:24] The requested URL /phpmyadmin/ was not found on this server. [10:24] oky [10:25] Not sure how it works with it symlinks into it or whether it's added to httpd.conf [10:25] I'll just google a mo [10:27] Ok, it uses phpmyadmin.conf in /etc/apache2/conf.d/ [10:27] Just have a quick look and see if that looks okay [10:27] kool [10:27] ill look now thx [10:28] wot am i looking for diplo [10:29] Where it's linked to, I suppose I could install it a mo and take a look, I do all my mysql via cmd line [10:29] Downloading now [10:29] thanks loads [10:29] brb need some coco pops lol [10:34] sudo ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf [10:35] Seems to not be symlinking [10:36] It says its caused by not selecting apache2 on install [10:36] But I defo did and had same issue [10:36] The above fixed mine [10:38] wow kool nice one, will i have to use that cmd again if i reboot the server or anyrhing? [10:38] No should be fine [10:38] Unless you rm it [10:40] kool, right next thing i need to do/learn is to add users and passwords for mysql databases [10:41] found it [10:41] haha kool [10:41] judgey: just click the privaliges tab :) [10:42] lol just found that ;p [10:44] Or via the command line is just as easy :) [10:54] ok thats all good forums and database all done and working, now to add a domain is the a controll panel for that? [10:55] not really, you'll need to edit/create a conf file. [10:59] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-create-name-based-and-ip-based-virtual-hosts-in-apache.html [10:59] Basics there judgey [10:59] cheers will read mow :) [11:00] bbiab [11:01] i ordered my new phobile moan \o/ [11:03] go on! [11:03] new pre? [11:13] oh my how expensive the N9 is going to be :-/ [11:14] and oh my how unavailable.. [11:15] it's a good thing I'm fairly depressed already at everything [11:15] this would make me even more sad, if it were possible [11:18] AlanBell: where do you want me to file a bug about the Ubuntu UK map? :-> [11:19] alternatively, do you have any advice on how I should be doing the addition of second pin? I seem to be failing, still [11:20] Myrtti: if you are failing, then there is a ui bug [11:21] or documentation bug [11:21] Yus [11:22] brobostigon: hey dude, you got a moment? [11:22] brobostigon: Android based question :) [11:24] HazRPG: ask away, others might know ;) [11:24] Its rooting related :) [11:25] hehe rooting rocks, i bodged my way through updating mine to cyanogen :D [11:25] I haven't done it before, so its new to me... seems I can backup fully (as in Nandroid backup) without root, I can't get root without first unlocking the bootloader... and to do that it wipes your phone (*sigh*) [11:26] I think this is the only thing I've ever been worried about rooting/hacking [11:27] doesn't help that there's more than one way to do it [11:27] question is, which is the best way? [11:27] or which has people done they would recommend [11:27] i just followed the instructions on the cyanogen site and hoped for the best [which isn't the best way:) [11:28] I've already gone the MyBackup/SMS Backup+ stuff to make sure everything is backed up... currently undergoing an SD card backup to grab all those things and have them sitting at my desktop. [11:28] HazRPG: i have yes, but it seems MooDoo is helping you. [11:29] brobostigon: did you just follow the cyanogenmod directions too? [11:29] brobostigon: help away, i did the bodge it and scarper mention :) [11:29] s/method [11:29] popey, yeah, new pre. on the company plastic [11:30] does the pre use gstreamer then? :D [11:30] HazRPG: mostly, yes, [11:32] wot phone? [11:32] ic [11:33] Nexus One :) [11:34] popey, as it happens, yes [11:35] have u seen [11:35] http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Nexus_One/Guides_%26_Tutorials#Root [11:35] superoneclick [11:37] god this is so hard [11:37] adding a domain is the hardest part [11:37] I have read about SuperOneClick, but I read somewhere that it doesn't work with 2.3.4 I think [11:37] yer i just saw m8 [11:37] sorry [11:38] http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=556 [11:38] loads of stuff here tho [11:38] HERE IS MY DETAILED GUIDE TO ROOTING A WEBOS DEVICE: type "upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart". touch the "developer mode" button. flick the developer mode switch, click restart [11:38] you now have root. enjoy. [11:38] heh [11:39] good afternoon everyone [11:39] hiya [11:39] HazRPG: here is a diffrent one click thing [11:39] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747598 [11:39] to access your rooted device, plug into a PC with the SDK installed, and run "novaterm" to get a root shell. or install a terminal emulator directly on the device via palm-install or some other utility [11:40] is ubuntu ment to beep on shutdown? [11:40] depends on the hardware, i think [11:41] I press shutdown and the bios speaker beeps loudly [11:42] judgey: just looked through the list, seems that only Nexus One (2.2) has been tested, but it might not work [11:42] :( [11:42] is this ment to happen or it it a mistake? [11:44] or is it just me? [11:45] i can't remember if my laptop does it or not [11:47] My sister's laptop (DELL & Acer) use to beep on reboot/shutdown, so I wouldn't worry about it [11:47] its a BIOS feature, think it can be turned off (but don't quote me on that) [11:47] its just to alert the user that a shutdown/reboot has been instigated [11:48] turn off system sound in biod [11:48] bios [11:49] * Howie goes into bios setup [11:49] what menu is it cmos setup (standard) or something else? [11:51] should be CMOS stuff :) [11:51] other way would be to blacklist the pcspkr [11:52] http://ubuntuguide.net/disable-the-annoying-beep-when-you-shutdown [11:52] or just unplug the speaker? [11:53] Howie: well, I wouldn't recommend diving inside your laptop to do that [11:54] its a desktop [11:54] not a laptop [11:56] so will it work or muck it up? [11:56] there should be an option for that, Howie - you shouldn't ned to disable the speaker entirely (although some BIOSes allow you to do this) [11:56] Howie: yeah that will work fine, but the software change is easier than getting the case open ;o) [11:57] dwatkins: depends on the bios, some do, some don't, just luck of the draw [11:57] indeed drussell [11:58] so where will it be in setup on an amibios [11:59] Howie: if you can't see it, it's probably not there [11:59] in that case its not there [12:02] brobostigon: did you pick clockwork mod or amon_ra's recovery method? [12:02] HazRPG: amon_ra [12:02] brobostigon: any reason for picking that one? [12:02] Or are both the same? [12:03] HazRPG: i dont remeber. but on my htc dream, there were some differences, yes. [12:05] brobostigon: hmm, seems this wiki doesn't tell you how to get root, it just shows you how to unlock the bootloader [12:11] HazRPG: the wiki did say how to get root her, it was to go back to a specific android version, that you could directly su into root, from terminal. [12:15] http://www.andypad.co.uk/ [12:15] interesting [12:16] ooo [12:17] nice [12:17] popey: it's rubbish, angry birds isn't installed by default ;) [12:25] woo, new mini-itx machine is built, dual core atom this time, i can *feel* the power [12:26] I want a datacentre full of ARM servers [12:27] http://vimeo.com/27496401 [12:27] how do you tell what version chrome you're using :/ [12:27] you dont :D [12:27] you just use the latest [12:27] how do I know I'm running the latest [12:27] PS. click the spanner then About Google Chrome [12:27] czajkowski: in the spanner menu, about * . [12:27] i was waiting for a nice arm board to come out, but i couldn't wait in the end :( [12:27] which arm boards did you dismiss? [12:27] spanner [12:28] thats what I missing [12:28] thanks [12:28] yes, spanner [12:28] czajkowski: Chrome puts a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d pointing to the Google server with new versions on it [12:28] czajkowski: top tight. [12:28] got to go for teh car mot now sooo hope it passes, ill be back laster to finish of the domain :| afk [12:28] czajkowski: what version you got there? [12:28] if you use the update-manager (or apt-get update) regularly, you have the latest version [12:28] 12.0.742.124 [12:28] 13.0.782.107 [12:28] ? [12:28] i couldn't actually find any to buy :) [12:29] 15.0.855.0 [12:29] 127893129312.0.235.12351825 [12:30] 14.0.835.94 beta [12:31] http://uk.farnell.com/texas-instruments/beagle-xm/kit-dev-beagleboard-xm-omap35x/dp/1823269 [12:31] popey: your time machine is malfunctioning [12:33] eh, arm is supposed to be cheep. that thing costs more than the mini-itx i got [12:33] and doesn't have sata at all [12:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vEHMBKKZwI [12:37] how not to run a web store selling ethernet cables "Belkin Cat5e Snagless UTP Patch Cable (Grey) 5m -Buy new: £3.02 - Usually dispatched within 1 to 2 months" [12:39] gord: I'm waiting for something to say "Usually dispatched never" [12:44] ♫ Six to eight years to arrive [12:48] [12:57] gord: I'm seeing both alt-tab versions currently should I be and how can I turn one or the other off please? [12:57] davmor2, either turn off one in ccsm or unity --reset [12:57] gord: thanks [13:11] * Howie is still here [13:12] hello Howie [13:13] hello again MooDoo [13:16] * Howie just got a shock of off the psu [13:16] :( [13:16] ouch [13:16] yeah ouch [13:18] ... don't touch it [13:18] woo, my G930 arrived [13:18] works ootb with Ubuntu :D [13:18] also [38954.494487] input: Logitech Logitech G930 Headset as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb8/8-1/8-1:1.3/input/input15 [13:18] headset is an input device, because I can. [13:19] Azelphur, it has buttons for volume, presumably [13:19] directhex: haha, it has more than just that :D [13:19] oh a headset, i guessed phone [13:20] hehe [13:20] Azelphur: more than volume? it has a keyboard attached to it? [13:20] MartijnVdS: yep. [13:21] I got the full logitech gaming set now, http://gamesweb.sk/editor/images/pages/2/13357/logitech-gseries.jpg \o/ [13:21] apart from I use a Logitech TrackMan instead of that mouse [13:21] i need a new mouse. care to mail me a g9? [13:21] haha [13:22] I have a G5, but my brother uses it [13:22] my wife has a g5 [13:22] tis a nice mouse :) [13:23] Azelphur: money > sense? :P [13:24] noes [13:24] not anymore then [13:27] MartijnVdS: haha [13:35] Anyone know much about Perl DBI ? [13:35] perl.org down and can't find an answer atm [13:35] diplo: I know a bit [13:35] For watever reason some one at my work place is running XAMPP on our boxes [13:35] DBI is installed [13:36] But the path it's looking for the mysql.sock is /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock [13:36] Where as XAMPP puts it in xampp [13:36] Just wondering if i can configure DBI to tell where the sock file is [13:36] Rather than ln -s [13:37] diplo: try looking in the DBD::MySQL manual [13:37] Will google that now ta [13:37] diplo: I think it might work in the hostname field [13:38] diplo: in DBD::mysql it says [13:38] diplo: "DBI:mysql:databasename;mysql_socket=/path/to/socket" [13:38] heh just found that as well thanks, [13:41] Hmm, still not happy.. [13:41] * diplo digs some more [13:41] diplo: what's the error? [13:41] diplo: are you allowed to open the socket? [13:42] Anyone know if there's a way to just loop what I'm saying back through the headset? [13:42] ah good point.. [13:42] noise cancellation is so good I can't hear myself speak >.< [13:42] failed: Cant connect to local MySQL server through socket [13:42] Azelphur: it's an option I think? [13:43] Azelphur: in the sound prefs? [13:43] yea but where abouts :P [13:44] Fails as root as well [13:45] mysql.sock is owned by nobody so should be fine [13:45] diplo: what's the message? :) [13:46] failed: Cant connect to local MySQL server through socket [13:47] diplo: maybe it wants to connect to localhost? [13:48] I just read about that, set to localhost atm [13:48] Wondering about changing to loopback [13:48] don't set a hostname [13:48] then it shuold use the local socket [13:48] ok [13:50] Done, thanks! [13:54] regarding that screenshot... this is why zeitgeist is a terrible idea [13:54] heh [13:54] at least it wasn't midget porn [13:55] lol [14:07] there's always the next screenshot, ali1234 [14:07] yeah, unless someone comes to their senses and redesigns unity from scratch [14:08] that aint going to happen. [14:08] i'd love a key stroke that hides the menu bar from view and doesn't come back until you hit the keystroke again [14:08] instead of the mouse over [14:09] like the superkey in gnome-shell. [14:09] yeah [14:45] everyone should own a revo, if only for the awesome little useful keyboard you get with it [14:45] * daubers starts test render 5 [14:48] new meaning to a computer crash... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjK4_sAl904 [14:48] popey: Just got the following text message "SAP is a very, very naughty word. AdHoc Query is worse. [14:48] " [15:06] davmor2: where you been slacker? [15:07] MooDoo: I'm in a QA sprint in London so swapping between rooms etc [15:08] cool [15:12] afternoon all [15:12] hrm, anyone know why dhcp might not be working on my server? [15:12] hey :) [15:12] my car passed yippy [15:13] MooDoo: yeah learning how to break czajkowski^WSoftware in new and interesting ways [15:13] davmor2: czajkowski will love you for that...... [15:14] judgey car passed what mot? [15:14] davmor2: I can't use gwibber any more :/ [15:14] my car had its mot today and passed [15:14] czajkowski: on oneiric or natty? [15:14] natty [15:14] crashes on start up [15:14] * MooDoo doesn't like gwibber in oneiric [15:16] so use tweet deck lol [15:17] I thought air had been pulled from linux? [15:17] bigcalm: i just download it from the adobe site. [15:17] i'm not using 64bit natty [15:18] Fair enough :) [15:20] judgey, Get it all sorted ? [15:21] not yet im so lost with adding the domain :| [15:21] Where have you got to ? [15:21] o sorry [15:21] get my car moted [15:21] :) [15:21] passed [15:21] yay [15:21] sorry im reading it all wrong [15:21] judgey: you was the ehcp guy from yesterday right? [15:22] yer hey [15:22] cool [15:22] i have done all of lamp [15:22] how goes it? [15:22] im kool thx dude u? [15:22] i di da reinstall [15:22] -did the :) [15:22] sorry lol [15:22] done lamp and phpmyadmin [15:22] lol [15:23] How far have you got with v hosts ? [15:23] just stuck at adding a domain im reading this... [15:23] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-create-name-based-and-ip-based-virtual-hosts-in-apache.html [15:23] just lost with it all [15:23] judgey: nice :) [15:23] I use lighttpd myself [15:23] I take it you have pointed domain to your box ? [15:23] not done named servers yet [15:23] will do when i have this sorted cos i want as less downtime as pos [15:24] its still pointing to the old server [15:24] with ehcp on it [15:24] It's quite simple to set up a basic vhost [15:24] :o [15:24] Live ? [15:24] yer on the old server [15:25] only a few more days on it so nps [15:25] new server will never have it again [15:25] judgey: are you running Ubuntu at home too? [15:25] (not on the server, but at home) [15:25] no win7 [15:25] boring :p [15:26] you can test the vhost setup on ubuntu without changing the domain, I think you can on windows too but dunno how [15:26] do i need to edit /etc/apache2/sites-available [15:26] defalt file? [15:26] defalt [15:26] that should be a folder not a file [15:27] I think [15:27] 001-default I think he is meaning [15:27] Inside said folde [15:27] ah [15:27] r [15:27] yer [15:27] yeah, that should link to sites-enabled/001-default [15:27] edit the hosts Azelphur [15:27] my apache knowledge is weak, I'm a lighttpd guy, someone else be useful :P [15:27] same as ubuntu but it's just in a differnt location [15:27] :) [15:28] got to be a newbie guide somwere [15:29] every time i setup an ubuntu server i hit this wall with dhcp... then i figure it out, then instantly forget how =\ [15:29] lol ;p [15:30] So judgey [15:30] in 000-default [15:30] You need > [15:30] i have file called default :o dont have 000- dose that matter? [15:31] Inside ServerAdmin [15:31] Probably fine, mines 000 that's all [15:31] DocumentRoot /var/www/html [15:32] I think that's all you basically need to get a Vhost up on a very basic level [15:32] Just need to point domain to it then [15:32] laura [15:33] Just reading up it is better to create a file called yourdomain.conf in sites-available [15:33] and then ln -s domain.conf sites-enabled/domain.conf [15:34] kool let me just try :) [15:34] It's been a while since I played with vhosts unfortunately, run everything on my localhost and used a shared hosting [15:35] But I know you can setup a very basic vhost then add options as you need them [15:38] ln: creating symbolic link `sites-enabled/host2k10.conf': No such file or directory [15:38] but its defo there [15:39] i put [15:39] ln -s host2k10.conf sites-enabled/host2k10.conf [15:40] judgey: use a2ensite [15:40] Saves messing around with directory paths [15:40] :D [15:41] I just read that, never used that in my day ! :P [15:41] cd /etc/apache2/sites-available; a2ensite host2k10.conf; /etc/init.d/apache reload [15:41] judgey, if you do carry on the other way it's probably because you are not in sites-available [15:41] how do i kill zombies when the parent process is init? [15:42] Shotgun? [15:42] Oh, and a chainsaw [15:42] (I've a feeling he is in sites-available, so needs ../sites-enabled rather than site-enabled. but a2ensite. does what it says on the tin.) [15:43] You also have a2enmod, which is handy for enabling mods :) [15:45] sec guys [15:46] Actually. You don't need to cd to the dir. Just: a2ensite host2k10.conf [15:47] is it worth reporting fglrx bugs? [15:47] i hate linux :( why can't it just work [15:47] here is my config but its wrong so says apche [15:47] http://pastebin.com/7YAiULGK [15:49] heh [15:49] 2 secs will edit [15:50] http://pastebin.com/7kPSeh37 [15:51] Dont want the Inside part as well [15:51] Sorry meant inside the tags [15:51] :D [15:51] I'm not great at explaining am I [15:51] lol ;p [15:51] fwiw, the config I use is http://pastebin.com/wpCAEY8K .. I literally just replace every occurance of TEMPLATE with the domain, and I'm done [15:51] sec [15:52] Or just copy shauno one which is fuller :) [15:53] :o [15:53] lol [15:53] ok [15:56] oky that seemed to go without any errors, sorry to be a nub but how dose it no my domain from that? [15:57] ha wait [15:57] ServerName TEMPLATE << template is my domain? [15:57] Yes [15:57] haha [15:57] sorry [15:58] iwthout www. ? [15:58] You can also have ServerAlias [15:58] with out www. [15:58] ServerName example.com [15:58] ServerAlias www.example.com [15:58] kool [16:00] and thats it then just need to point the domain to my server? [16:02] and /var/www is were i put index and stuff dont need to make the folder host2k.info [16:03] as my DocumentRoot /var/www/ < is that [16:04] or do i need to make the path /www/mydomainname.here/httpdocs/ [16:06] judgey: I would suggest having a sub directory for your website [16:06] It's up to you as to where you have it [16:06] will i have to change the document root? [16:06] If the DocumentRoot is to be other than /var/www, then yes [16:07] kool [16:10] bug 709505 [16:10] Launchpad bug 709505 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) "[MASTER] fglrx failed to install/upgrade due to being incompatible with 2.6.38 kernel" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709505 [16:21] heh, spent five minutes learning how to write an upstart script. they are completely right, its easy [16:46] This isn't fun [16:46] PHP Fatal error: Class 'DateTime' not found [16:46] Version of PHP on this server is 5.3.6 [16:55] bigcalm: using a distro package? [16:55] bigcalm: chances are the packagers have broken^Wfiddled with it [16:57] mgdm: RHEL server. I'm not installing anything [16:58] Client's tech is responding to my requests via email [16:59] I do get to alter php.ini though if I need to [16:59] So, where would I look to see if the right bits are being included? [16:59] Date is showing up in phpinfo() === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [18:11] !ati [18:11] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [18:12] so what is going on if the additional drivers window is empty? [18:12] ati sucks [18:12] see rant on #ati [18:13] ATI drivers have a nice GUI to build a .deb [18:13] yeah a nice gui that DOESN'T WORK [18:13] minor issue [18:13] ;) [18:13] to go with their APP SDK installer that ALSO DOESN'T WORK [18:13] where do I find the nice non-functional gui? [18:13] and does REBOOT YOUR COMPUTER WITHOUT WARNING [18:14] AlanBell: you don't want it, even if you fix it so it produces a deb, the resulting drivers don't work properly anyway [18:14] * hamitron offers ali1234 a coffee to calm down [18:14] mkay [18:14] ali1234: so...I got a G930 :D [18:14] seems to work ootb though :) [18:14] bigcalm: weird one. Can you get a phpinfo output and paste it? [18:14] so I just go with the flow on the 2d driver then? [18:14] the distro driver works better than the latest one [18:15] here is the new catalyst driver if you feel like wasting your time: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-11-8-x86.x86_64.run [18:15] you must sudo apt-get install debhelper dh-modaliases execstack [18:16] http://paste.ubuntu.com/668495 [18:16] and then --buildpkg Ubuntu/natty [18:16] then install the debs it builds [18:16] Rage XL? [18:16] what is that?? [18:17] dunno, on the mobo of an HP Proliant DL360 [18:17] really don't care much if it doesn't work, but I thought I would try [18:17] it's an ancient ATi chipset, roughly 4MB or maybe 8MB [18:18] i don't think catalyst is gonna support that [18:18] around about 1999 vintage IIRC, but they soldiered on for server motherboards for a few years [18:18] I used it in VESA mode [18:18] dunno if that still works [18:18] s/mode/driver/ [18:19] it does 2d no problem [18:19] ok how do i roll back to the old debs from command line? [18:21] Azelphur: what's a G930? [18:21] ali1234: more G-Series devices for the driver :D [18:22] it's a headset complete with G-Keys on the headset [18:22] ali1234: http://hotronica.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/g930_side.jpg [18:31] Is there a nice service that provides free wikis? [18:32] Azelphur: wikia.com? [18:32] no [18:32] there are services that provide wikis though [18:33] AlanBell: that's what I mean, :) [18:33] wikia sounds good I guess :) [18:34] also wants libqtgui4 and libqtcore4 [18:42] aticonfig: No supported adapters detected [18:42] um... well [18:42] * AlanBell gives up on that then :) [18:43] you have a card that is 10 years out of date [18:43] and is on a server that will be running headless [18:43] I just wanted to see what the current ATI install process was really [18:43] it's identical to the nvidia install process [18:44] if you have a supported card [18:44] the card you are using is equivalent to like a nvidia TNT card or something [20:12] make [20:21] hmmmm [20:21] is MSN messenger broken for anyone else? [20:22] i'm connected [20:22] no one is online though [20:22] so i dunno [20:35] I'm online [20:38] how do I make my pc boot from usb [20:38] cos it ant doin it [20:39] Howie, check the boot order in your bios? [20:40] Howie: you will need to change the boot device order in the bios [20:40] what one.do I.select to go first [20:40] It depends on the bios [20:41] I have an amibios [20:42] hum, any mail gurus who are able to help with a fetchmail / maildrop issue ? [20:42] Howie: I personally use this order: USB -> CD -> HDD [20:42] I do when i'm setting up, but i set as HDD when done - then lock the bios with a password :P [20:42] basically i want to replicate the remote folders locally if possible ? [20:43] i have got the mail coming down fine but i loose the folders grouping so curious if there is way around this ? [20:43] usb fdd? [20:43] Howie, what other options are there? [20:44] my older mashine only boots from usb if you set the boot option to usb zip which is damned odd [20:45] cdrom ide-0 ide-1 scsi network floppy zip atapi. disabled [20:46] thats all [20:46] Howie: how old is the machine? [20:46] how old is this computer? [20:46] Jinx ;) [20:46] no u [20:47] quite old [20:47] 6 years? [20:47] Howie: the bios might pre-date the ability to boot from usb [20:48] You could look for a bios update, but I wouldn't be too hopeful [20:48] it struggles with booting from cd or hdd as well [20:48] oggcamp show \o/ [20:49] bigcalm, there is a work arround where you boot from cd and that boots from usb [20:49] I don't remember the link though :( [20:49] weird pc [20:49] belonged to a prep school previously [20:50] also it makes weird noises sometimes [20:50] and it used to boot from usb but now it doesnt [20:52] Maybe it only booted from 1 or 2 specific USB ports [20:52] Try different ones [20:52] mabe its my hub [20:54] it is [20:54] usb boot doesn't like hubs [20:54] also you might not be able to boot from every usb port [20:54] nope just boots into ubuntu [20:56] port 1 [20:56] (annoying noise followed by hdd boot [20:56] There we go then :) [20:58] nope it dont boot from usb [20:59] Oh [21:02] curse you prep school.kids who fiddle with things till they break [21:21] [Ubuntu UK Podcast] S04E13  When Two Worlds Collide - http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2011/08/17/s04e13-when-two-worlds-collide/ [21:21] [Tony] That Was The OggCamp That Was - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2011/08/17/that-was-the-oggcamp-that-was/ [21:21] :OOOOO [21:21] To the gpodder! [21:29] * Howie yawns loudly [21:29] Myrtti: each pin needs a different description [21:30] AlanBell: sorry? [21:30] Myrtti: you can't do two pins, both with a blank description [21:32] ah right, had to go to read my lastlog before things clicked [21:32] :) [21:40] any has knowledge on exim4 and tsl [21:58] * AlanBell tickles Daviey [22:20] ok, so the Ubuntu UK happy hour [22:20] where shall we do the first one? [22:21] the what now? [22:21] pick a pub, any pub [22:25] The Ben Nevis, in Glasgow [22:26] at a stretch, the Bon Accord has more seating [22:26] great, where next? [22:26] http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/ [22:27] prince of wales, farnborough [22:28] now where? [22:28] The Jolly Judge in Edinburgh? Bit mobbed at this time of year [22:28] I'd also suggest MacNeil's in Stornoway [22:29] AlanBell: The Swan and Bottle, Uxbridge ☺ [22:34] need some in the middle kind of options [22:34] there are some great camra pubs in brum [22:35] I know the Nottingham contingent wanted one [22:35] AlanBell: The Hobgoblin on Broad Street, Reading [22:35] The Warwick on King's Road, Reading [22:36] The Back of Beyond, also on King's Road [22:36] (apparently the best of the wetherspoons) [22:36] Getting this data from a local yokel [22:36] * popey pokes Ng [22:37] what pub (if any) would canonical people be seen in, in that london [22:47] home in nottingham does the best steaks evar [22:47] it's not in the city centre though [22:47] and the pub bit is a bit rough [22:48] but those steaks are amazing [22:49] http://www.homeloungebar.co.uk/ [23:06] how can i check if Exim was compiled with OpenSSL (or GnuTLS) support [23:08] check the package depends [23:10] exim4-daemon-heavy depends on libgnutls26 [23:10] and so does -light [23:10] so whats the command ? [23:11] dpkg -l "exim*" [23:11] ? [23:12] apt-cache showpkg exim4-daemon-heavy [23:13] so does this mean.. those are installed and in use ? [23:13] Dependencies: [23:13] 4.72-6+squeeze2 - exim4-base (2 4.72) libc6 (2 2.7) libdb4.8 (0 (null)) libgnutls26 (2 2.7.14-0) libldap-2.4-2 (2 2.4.7) libmysqlclient16 (2 5.1.21-1) libpam0g (2 0.99.7.1) libpcre3 (2 7.7) libperl5.10 (2 5.10.1) libpq5 (2 8.4~0cvs20090328) libsasl2-2 (0 (null)) libsqlite3-0 (2 3.7.3) debconf (18 0.5) debconf-2.0 (0 (null)) mail-transport-agent (0 (null)) exim4-base (1 4.61-1) mail-transport-agent [23:13] (0 (null)) [23:14] it means the package needs all of that stuff to work [23:14] so it must be using gnutls [23:14] at least compiled with it [23:15] Configuring Exim4 to use TLS. Configured 03_exim4-config_tlsoptions but when i restart exim4 and check with: exim4 -bP | grep tls_ [23:15] i get this output.. http://pastebin.com/VYwTEihg (it does not show what i have configured) when i test get this message Host did not advertise STARTTLS [23:18] well that is probably a configuration issue [23:23] omg [23:23] i can't do basic math :( [23:23] 16+12 != 24 [23:24] mats is unpossible! [23:25] what i wanted was the first 12, skip 4, then the next 12 [23:25] so i wrote: for line in range(12)+range(16,24): [23:25] doh [23:25] and lost 4 lines from each file [23:26] then spent an hour trying to figure out why [23:27] i had actually ruled out errors in every other part of the code and decided that the problem must be in that line, before i saw it