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| ScottK | Quintasan: Can haz diffs for the FFes? | 00:21 |
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| ScottK | rbelem: pong | 00:22 |
| jjesse | here's an interesting problem just updated my oneric vm today and after an update, rebooting and trying to login i get a white box that says "Could not start D-Bus, Can you call qdbus? and has an Okay button, after clicking the button i am prompted again with the login screen | 00:42 |
| yofel | jjesse: known issue, should be fixed with the next qt update, for now install qt4-dev-tools | 00:44 |
| jjesse | thanks yofel | 00:45 |
| rbelem | ScottK, could you take a look in the ffe? :-) | 00:49 |
| jjesse | hrmm ok last night i reported a bug i was having w/ kate and it appears to only be happening in an upgraded version of oneric and not a fresh version | 01:11 |
| jjesse | however i reported it on bugs.kde.org and now can't find it ;( | 01:11 |
| jjesse | ah found it: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280236 | 01:12 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 280236 in general "problems with second level menu options" [Normal,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo] | 01:12 |
| jjesse | email about it send to the kubuntu-devel mailing list | 01:18 |
| ScottK | rbelem: Which? | 02:49 |
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| bambee | morning | 08:03 |
| Quintasan | bambee: \o | 09:14 |
| Quintasan | Good morning as well | 09:14 |
| bambee | yo :) | 09:14 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: You can | 09:15 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/828159 | 09:16 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 828159 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "kde-workspace needs to be built with kwin-gles" [Undecided,New] | 09:16 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/827286 | 09:19 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 827286 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "kde4libs package needs to be updated" [Undecided,New] | 09:19 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: Can I merge kde-runtime-active branch? | 09:20 |
| Quintasan | WUT | 09:21 |
| Quintasan | yofel: PINGO | 09:21 |
| Quintasan | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime-active-4.7/revision/223 | 09:21 |
| Quintasan | Y U NO PATCHES? | 09:22 |
| ulmlogger | Quintasan: from where? | 09:22 |
| * yofel yawns | 09:22 | |
| ulmlogger | Quintasan: I acked the stuff rbelem presented | 09:22 |
| yofel | @_@ | 09:22 |
| ulmlogger | like 3 times or more :P | 09:22 |
| yofel | sry | 09:22 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime-active-4.7 | 09:23 |
| jussi | ulmlogger: PM !!! :D | 09:23 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: I was looking at that branch but I discovered there are no patches :S | 09:23 |
| CIA-52 | [kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 224 * debian/patches/ (6 files) Actually add the patches | 09:23 |
| Quintasan | Now I can merge and link to branch! | 09:24 |
| * Quintasan testbuilds | 09:25 | |
| Quintasan | http://paste.kde.org/111259 | 09:26 |
| Quintasan | hmmm | 09:26 |
| Quintasan | --with xine? | 09:26 |
| Quintasan | Is that some oneeyerick change? | 09:26 |
| yofel | sure it's oneiric since it's only there since dhmk is used | 09:27 |
| * Quintasan bzr-buildpackage -S | 09:29 | |
| Quintasan | can't* | 09:29 |
| Quintasan | I see | 09:30 |
| Quintasan | TESTBUILDIN | 09:31 |
| Quintasan | werks | 09:48 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-runtime/+bug/827283 | 09:53 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 827283 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu) "kde-runtime needs to be updated" [Undecided,New] | 09:53 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Then we have FFe for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/828111 | 09:54 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 828111 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] share-like-connect" [Wishlist,New] | 09:54 |
| Quintasan | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/512319 | 09:54 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 512319 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] plasma-mobile" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 09:54 |
| Quintasan | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-mobile/+bug/828093 | 09:54 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 828093 in plasma-mobile (Ubuntu) "plasma-mobile needs to be updated" [Undecided,New] | 09:54 |
| Quintasan | disregard 512319 | 09:54 |
| Quintasan | bambee: file a FFe for touchegg | 09:54 |
| bambee | ok | 09:55 |
| bambee | sure | 09:55 |
| Quintasan | and ping ScottK with it, in bug description link to REVU package which I acke'd | 09:55 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: I need you to approve and upload FFe's for kde* packages so I can testbuild the rest and see if it works | 09:56 |
| Quintasan | If something doesn't work then we blame rbelem | 09:56 |
| * Quintasan goes back to cleaning | 09:56 | |
| rbelem | :-D | 10:10 |
| * rbelem pokes Quintasan | 10:10 | |
| * rbelem goes to work | 10:14 | |
| bambee | Quintasan: bug 828637 | 10:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 828637 in Ubuntu "Feature Freeze Exception request for Touchégg" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/828637 | 10:15 |
| Quintasan | What a beautiful FFe | 10:16 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: ^^ | 10:16 |
| bambee | ohh... I need a review from another person normally... (It's the MOTU process...) | 10:16 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: I extend my every right to demand that you spare some time and review bambee's package http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/touchegg | 10:17 |
| Quintasan | Not much to review there, and leave an advocating comment | 10:18 |
| Quintasan | Unless he broke something | 10:18 |
| * Quintasan hands bambee Mighty Stick of ulmlogger Poking | 10:18 | |
| * ulmlogger puts on some pants | 10:22 | |
| * bambee pokes ulmlogger with his Mighty Stick and waits for "pants ack" | 10:26 | |
| ulmlogger | you can already prepare your shell for fixing | 10:27 |
| ulmlogger | 2 seconds into the review -> first grave problem | 10:27 |
| bambee | really? o_O | 10:27 |
| * jussi steals the stick from bambee | 10:29 | |
| yofel | bambee: this looks fooey | 10:30 |
| yofel | 3 Maintainer: Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com> | 10:30 |
| yofel | 4 XSBC-Original-Maintainer: Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com> | 10:30 |
| bambee | ? | 10:31 |
| yofel | either put yourself as original maintainer or just drop it | 10:31 |
| bambee | lintian displays warnings if I drop it | 10:31 |
| yofel | o.O | 10:32 |
| bambee | (I'am not sure if it's lintian, but something displays warnings) | 10:32 |
| bambee | let me check | 10:32 |
| yofel | ah, dpkg-source | 10:33 |
| * yofel usually ignores that | 10:33 | |
| bambee | no it's dpkg-source | 10:34 |
| bambee | dpkg-source: warning: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but there is no XSBC-Original-Maintainer field | 10:34 |
| bambee | well, I ignore it | 10:34 |
| ulmlogger | bambee: revud | 10:35 |
| bambee | ulmlogger: thanks | 10:35 |
| bambee | "upstream tar i tar.gz not xz, do not change upstream tars for no good reason" => the original tarball does not contain the COPYING file | 10:36 |
| bambee | that's why I've repacked it | 10:36 |
| yofel | well, then you're missing a +repack in the version | 10:36 |
| bambee | right | 10:36 |
| yofel | also, run wrap-and-sort | 10:37 |
| jussi | ulmlogger: moar PM! :D | 10:46 |
| Quintasan | bambee: I didn't tell you that you need to add +repack? | 11:40 |
| Quintasan | silly Quintasan | 11:40 |
| Quintasan | bambee: Now you got a list of errors from ulmlogger and should fix them | 12:16 |
| Quintasan | The package should be mostly good afterwards | 12:16 |
| debfx | ScottK: do you have an idea why ntrack breaks kde again? bug #826969 | 12:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 826969 in ntrack (Ubuntu) "Latest ntrack update in Oneiric causes kded4 to spin the CPU" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/826969 | 12:49 |
| debfx | or rather how we can fix that | 12:49 |
| ScottK | debfx: I don't. I tested the fix that's in 014 and still had problems, which is why it wasn't included in the SRU. | 12:50 |
| ScottK | I'd ask asac. | 12:50 |
| ScottK | Presumably someone needs to figure a way to make it consistently do that and strace it or some such. | 12:51 |
| mfraz74 | would someone here be able to help me with a compiling problem? | 12:52 |
| shadeslayer | mfraz74: is it related to Kubuntu development? | 13:11 |
| mfraz74 | shadeslayer: not really I was trying out the http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/packaging-from-scratch.html and I'm stuck | 13:12 |
| shadeslayer | hmm ... #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-packaging i'd say | 13:13 |
| mfraz74 | ok thanks | 13:13 |
| bambee | re | 13:17 |
| bambee | Quintasan: no you just said me to repack it, BUT I know that I need to add +repack... I just forgot it... silly error | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | !find qrcodec.h | 13:34 |
| ubottu | Package/file qrcodec.h does not exist in natty | 13:34 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger, debfx, Quintasan, rbelem, etc: Looking at the kde4libs diff, I'm not super happy about the idea of adding experimental headers into kdelibs5-dev. | 13:44 |
| * ulmlogger complained about that | 13:45 | |
| * ScottK is going to (again) suggest that stuff go into a new kdelibs5-experimental-dev package and ask for arguments why that's not the way we should do it. | 13:45 | |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: ^^^? | 13:45 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: Any idea where the new symbols in debian/libnepomukquery4a.symbols come from? That seems a bit scary too. | 13:46 |
| ulmlogger | but everything in an experimental package | 13:46 |
| bambee | Quintasan: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/touchegg | 13:46 |
| bambee | fixed | 13:46 |
| ulmlogger | actually, for all I care you could just create one experimental package with libs and headers inside | 13:47 |
| ScottK | debfx: ^^^ re the symbols - do you know? | 13:47 |
| ulmlogger | it is not like this thing is supposed to be used by anyone nor will it be existing for > 11.10 | 13:47 |
| shadeslayer | ulmlogger: wait a sec, aren't the experimental libs and headers supposed to be internal ? | 13:47 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: what symbols? | 13:47 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: Look in the diff. | 13:47 |
| ulmlogger | define internal | 13:47 |
| ScottK | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/77504842/371_370.diff | 13:47 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: where? | 13:47 |
| shadeslayer | not public | 13:47 |
| shadeslayer | not shipped in a seprate package to be precise | 13:48 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Internal to what? | 13:48 |
| ScottK | Can't very well build plasma-active without them can we? | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: Internal to KDE i meant | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | . . . | 13:48 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Internal to KDE doesn't make any sense. | 13:48 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: the new symbols come from new code | 13:48 |
| debfx | ScottK: I guess from a patch? | 13:48 |
| ScottK | Sigh. | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | i don't know how to put my thoughts into a proper sentence right now | 13:49 |
| * shadeslayer needs coffee | 13:49 | |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102112/ | 13:49 |
| ScottK | So our experimental patch exposes new symbols that we can't guarantee will be supported? | 13:49 |
| * ScottK looks | 13:49 | |
| * bambee orders a coffee for shadeslayer | 13:49 | |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: It'd be nice if that'd get committed to the 4.7 branch too since that sounds bug fixish to me. | 13:50 |
| ScottK | Or not. | 13:52 |
| debfx | wait what, we are adding a gazillion of patches that are from the 4.7 branch? | 13:52 |
| debfx | are *not* from | 13:53 |
| shadeslayer | bambee: oh ... now i have 2 coffee cups ... | 13:53 |
| ScottK | That's what the FFe we are discussing is about. | 13:54 |
| bambee | :D | 13:54 |
| ScottK | So we can build the latest Active/Mobile stuff. | 13:54 |
| shadeslayer | why can't we put it in a PPA? | 13:54 |
| ScottK | Then it's rather not part of Kubuntu. | 13:54 |
| ulmlogger | also | 13:55 |
| ulmlogger | we | 13:55 |
| ulmlogger | rather | 13:55 |
| ulmlogger | need | 13:55 |
| ulmlogger | arm | 13:55 |
| ulmlogger | ppa++ for not having arms | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | so, its a tradeoff between having a new product vs exposing new symbols? | 13:56 |
| ulmlogger | \o/ <-- obs, o <-- lunchpad | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 13:56 |
| ulmlogger | shadeslayer: new product? | 13:56 |
| ulmlogger | plasma mobile is not new | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | ulmlogger: Kubuntu Active | 13:56 |
| ulmlogger | kubuntu mobile | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | are we discussing Active or Mobile? | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | because i thought the patches enable you to build Active stuff | 13:57 |
| ulmlogger | ACTIVE IS MOBILE | 13:59 |
| shadeslayer | @_@ | 14:02 |
| * Quintasan hits shadeslayer with ACTIVE sign | 14:03 | |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Well, I'm not really happy about doing this after feature freeze :P | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | there are like a bazillion names in KDE now | 14:03 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Agreed the timing isn't best, but until 4.7.0 was done there really wasn't a way to do it. | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer | KDE Frameworks/KDE SC/Plasma Active ... | 14:04 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: So it would be acceptable if we'd ship this experimental stuff in a separate package, right? | 14:14 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: I think so. | 14:16 |
| Quintasan | bambee: The changelog needs to mention the cause of repack | 14:16 |
| ScottK | The patch that adds the symbols looks reasonably safe/maintainable. | 14:16 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: I would like it though if the nepomukquery patch were updated to correctly reflect the version we added it in our package rather than say 4.8 as the upstream comment does. | 14:17 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: I believe one can pass --dbg-package=touchegg-dbg directly to % | 14:18 |
| Quintasan | That way whole override on strip becomes useless | 14:18 |
| ulmlogger | yes you can | 14:19 |
| ulmlogger | that does not mean it is the best solution :P | 14:19 |
| Quintasan | In that case? | 14:19 |
| Quintasan | I'm wondering if we are getting any particular advantage in that case | 14:19 |
| bambee | less characters... inline command... I like it... | 14:20 |
| bambee | (we've not a lot of arguments to pass to dh, we've only two...) | 14:20 |
| Quintasan | bambee: Same here, I did that in other packages for no apparent reason | 14:20 |
| Quintasan | (override I mean) | 14:20 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: Thoughts? | 14:20 |
| Quintasan | bambee: There is also nice wrap-and-sort script | 14:21 |
| Quintasan | You can use it :) | 14:21 |
| bambee | wtf? | 14:21 |
| bambee | woo | 14:21 |
| Quintasan | bambee: add --dbg-package=touchegg-dbg to dh and get rid of the override | 14:22 |
| bambee | + the changelog | 14:22 |
| Quintasan | I don't think it will have any impact on THIS package | 14:22 |
| Quintasan | Yes | 14:22 |
| Quintasan | And I will advocate | 14:23 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: What about kde-workspace? | 14:24 |
| debfx | just to be clear, those patches won't be included in kdelibs 4.7 so we will have to carry them on until we remove kde4libs? | 14:24 |
| ScottK | The nepomukquery patch will be in 4.8. | 14:24 |
| ScottK | The rest is (after moving the headers and such into an experimental -dev package) in separate binaries. | 14:25 |
| ScottK | We can drop them if needed later. | 14:25 |
| debfx | I thought there will be no kdelibs 4.8 | 14:26 |
| debfx | also some patches touc hplasma.h | 14:26 |
| ScottK | Hmm. | 14:26 |
| ScottK | The activitymanager changes in -runtime look a bit scary too. | 14:27 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: This all seems rather invasive. | 14:27 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Which patch is the nepomukquery one? | 14:27 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102112/ | 14:27 |
| ScottK | That commit is in our diff. | 14:28 |
| Quintasan | So you want to get "\since 4.8" replaced with "since 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu3" ? | 14:29 |
| Quintasan | in the patch | 14:29 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 14:30 |
| Quintasan | There is only one instance of that, replacing | 14:30 |
| ScottK | But I don't want any of it uploaded until we've got through the whole set. | 14:30 |
| ScottK | Someone convince me why I shouldn't freak out about the scale of the activitymanager changes? | 14:31 |
| bambee | Quintasan: uploaded | 14:31 |
| Quintasan | bambee: Awesome | 14:31 |
| Quintasan | rbelem or ulmlogger may have sufficient explanations for this | 14:32 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: So new files from debian/kdelibs5-dev.install should land into other experimental package, is naming it kdelibs5-experimental-dev enough? | 14:32 |
| ScottK | Yes. I think that's good. | 14:32 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: ^^^ ? | 14:32 |
| * bambee blames "bzr commit" it does not open emacs anymore.... | 14:33 | |
| * bambee has a look at "man bzr" | 14:33 | |
| bambee | (just in case) | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | bambee: known bug/feature | 14:34 |
| Quintasan | feature | 14:34 |
| Quintasan | since vim > emacs | 14:34 |
| Quintasan | :P | 14:34 |
| * Quintasan hides | 14:34 | |
| shadeslayer | heh :P | 14:34 |
| yofel | no, bzr feature | 14:35 |
| ScottK | Tell Riddell. He uses emacs, so I'm sure he'd be right on top of fixing it. | 14:36 |
| bambee | Q_ASSERT(! vim > emacs); | 14:36 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Should Depends on that experimental package be the same as kdelibs5-dev or I can just make it depend of kdelibs5-dev so it pulls everything? | 14:37 |
| Quintasan | s/of/on | 14:37 |
| ScottK | The latter is fine. | 14:37 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/111319 <-- Any other thoughts? | 14:38 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: It needs some kind of DO NOT USE warning in the description. | 14:39 |
| ScottK | Totally unstable API/ABI, may break without warning, etc. | 14:40 |
| yofel | Quintasan: also, IMO i should depend on the experimental lib packages so you can remove them from kdelibs5-dev | 14:40 |
| yofel | s/i/it/ | 14:40 |
| kubotu | yofel meant: "Quitntasan: also, IMO i should depend on the experimental lib packages so you can remove them from kdelibs5-dev" | 14:40 |
| yofel | sed fail.. | 14:40 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 14:40 |
| ScottK | yofel: Good point. | 14:41 |
| Quintasan | As far as I can see the kdelibs5-dev I merged doesnt depend on them :D | 14:44 |
| ScottK | Then the experimental one should pull them in. | 14:44 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/111325 | 14:46 |
| ScottK | I'd have gone with unstable API rather than production environment. | 14:46 |
| ScottK | When someone uses this package and later their stuff doesn't build, I want to be able to say "Dude, did you read the package description - what did you think would happen". | 14:47 |
| Quintasan | This package contains headers with unstable API and should not be used in production development ? | 14:48 |
| * Quintasan has no idea how to put that in words | 14:48 | |
| Quintasan | Headers in this package provide unstable API, use at your own risk? | 14:49 |
| ulmlogger | USE NOT AT ALL | 14:49 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: ^ | 14:50 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: As ulmlogger says. | 14:50 |
| yofel | don't use unless you know what you're doing? | 14:50 |
| ScottK | No. Don't use. | 14:50 |
| yofel | k | 14:50 |
| Quintasan | Headers in this package provide unstable API, do not use them. | 14:51 |
| * yofel would drop 'them' but otherwise ok | 14:51 | |
| Quintasan | True | 14:51 |
| * ScottK is with yofel, but either way. | 14:51 | |
| Quintasan | ScottK: The whole diff -> http://paste.kde.org/111331 | 14:52 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: Convince me on the activitymanager in -runtime. | 14:52 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: DO EET | 14:52 |
| ScottK | Could this stuff get shoved in some experimental package that's not installed normally? | 14:53 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: That looks good for libs. No someone needs to sell me on runtime. | 14:53 |
| * Quintasan pushes | 14:53 | |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Can you look at workspace while ulmlogger is looking for arguments? :P | 14:55 |
| ScottK | What bug is that? | 14:55 |
| Quintasan | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/828159 | 14:55 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 828159 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "kde-workspace needs to be built with kwin-gles" [Undecided,New] | 14:55 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: well, yes, we could do a double build | 14:58 |
| ulmlogger | first without patches, second with | 14:58 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: Wouldn't that be less risk? | 14:58 |
| ulmlogger | sure it would | 14:58 |
| ulmlogger | also it is a PITA to do :P | 14:59 |
| ScottK | The libs stuff seemed mostly isolated to new stuff. -runtime not so much. | 14:59 |
| ScottK | Fortunately Quintasan is an expert now that he did the kwin-gles stuff. | 14:59 |
| Quintasan | FFFFFFFF | 14:59 |
| ulmlogger | win | 14:59 |
| * ulmlogger needs to shower and stuff | 14:59 | |
| Quintasan | How do you expect the builder to know when to apply some patches and when not to? | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | building gles was easy since I didn't have to do any magic apart from few overrides | 15:00 |
| yofel | you run quilt between the builds? | 15:00 |
| yofel | which would probably be messy though.. | 15:01 |
| Quintasan | ! | 15:01 |
| Quintasan | Can we have a separate series file and pass that over to quilt during the second build? | 15:01 |
| yofel | you could redefine QUILT_PATCHES though maybe | 15:01 |
| Quintasan | or | 15:02 |
| yofel | that would give you a seperate series file too | 15:02 |
| Quintasan | more dirty | 15:02 |
| Quintasan | add the patches but remove them from series | 15:02 |
| Quintasan | do the first build | 15:02 |
| Quintasan | append new patch names in rules before second build | 15:03 |
| Quintasan | do a second build | 15:03 |
| Quintasan | yofel: I don't want to redefine it since we need all the previous patches too | 15:03 |
| yofel | well, apply patches -> redefine -> apply again | 15:04 |
| yofel | dpkg-source will apply the default ones anyway | 15:04 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: I don't understand "+Breaks: kdebase-workspace-bin (<< 4:4.5.80), kde-window-manager (= ${binary:Version})" | 15:04 |
| yofel | you would need to pop again between the configure and build step though I think | 15:05 |
| ScottK | Doesn't it break every version of kde-window-manager? | 15:05 |
| ScottK | Also short description should mention GLES. | 15:05 |
| ScottK | Same for both packages | 15:06 |
| ScottK | Other than that it seems OK. | 15:07 |
| ScottK | I approved the FFe, but please fix that stuff up. | 15:08 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: ^^^ | 15:09 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Look at the second diff | 15:31 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Those packages cannot be installed at the same time | 15:31 |
| Quintasan | Because they provide the same files | 15:31 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: I get that. Why is the breaks versioned? | 15:31 |
| Quintasan | It shouldn't be versioned? | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | Ah | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | Stupid question, removing | 15:32 |
| ScottK | Great. | 15:32 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: That applies to both packages (same issue) | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: kde-window-manager (>= ${source:Version}) | kde-window-manager-gles (>= ${source:Version}) | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | That's Depends on kde-workspace, is this good? | 15:35 |
| ScottK | That's fine. | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | Conflicts: kde-window-manager-gles | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | That's all | 15:36 |
| Quintasan | I'm not adding Conflicts: kde-window-manager on kde-window-manager-gles | 15:36 |
| Quintasan | That's pointless unless I'm misunderstanding how dpkg works | 15:36 |
| Quintasan | If I have installed -gles and try to install non-gles then it will conflict | 15:36 |
| Quintasan | if I have non-gles installed it will conflict too | 15:36 |
| Quintasan | right? | 15:37 |
| ScottK | I don't think conflicts are bi-directional like that, but I'm not sure. | 15:37 |
| * bambee hugs Quintasan and asks him to advocate touchegg on revu | 15:37 | |
| bambee | :P | 15:37 |
| Quintasan | bambee: Urgh right, let me do kwin | 15:37 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: I'll add them back just to be safe | 15:37 |
| bambee | sure, there's no hurry | 15:38 |
| Quintasan | It won't hurt anyone | 15:38 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/111343 | 15:39 |
| Quintasan | Before I commit | 15:39 |
| Quintasan | bambee: Advocated | 15:40 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Yes. Similar changes in the other gles binary too. | 15:41 |
| Quintasan | oh libkwineffects | 15:42 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/111349 | 15:42 |
| ScottK | Looks good. | 15:43 |
| Quintasan | Pushing | 15:43 |
| ScottK | Before uploading I'd test to make sure those conflicts really do what you want. | 15:43 |
| bambee | Quintasan: thanks! | 15:44 |
| Quintasan | bambee: Now convince ScottK to approve FFe | 15:46 |
| Quintasan | :P | 15:46 |
| ScottK | What testing has the package had? | 15:47 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: I testbuilt and installed it. I don't have any hardware to test how it works | 15:48 |
| ScottK | So who does? | 15:48 |
| ScottK | Didn't ulmlogger score some hardware? | 15:48 |
| ScottK | If you can test it, I've no problem with FFe. | 15:49 |
| * Quintasan looks at ulmlogger | 15:49 | |
| jussi | Has anyone tried installing from the CD/usb recently? | 15:49 |
| Quintasan | jussi: One-eye-rick? | 15:50 |
| bambee | ScottK: actually? it's not tested yet, I've not the hardware for that | 15:50 |
| jussi | Quintasan: yeah | 15:50 |
| Quintasan | jussi: If you are talking about broken DBus then we know about that :P | 15:50 |
| ScottK | bambee: So find someone. | 15:50 |
| jussi | Quintasan: My 15th doesnt install - ubiqity doesnt start | 15:50 |
| ScottK | Broken dbus is fixed. | 15:50 |
| Quintasan | I see | 15:50 |
| ScottK | Sounds about right for broken dbus (time wise) | 15:51 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK, Quintasan: bulldog98 and I have hardware | 15:51 |
| ulmlogger | also I am going to do some cursing now | 15:51 |
| ScottK | jussi: Install from the Alpha 3 images and then upgrade. Those work. | 15:51 |
| jussi | and my upgraded version doesnt even boot - hangs with a white blinking cursor | 15:51 |
| Quintasan | jussi: Did you try upgrading today? | 15:52 |
| jussi | I can make it boot via recovery, then resume and startx | 15:52 |
| jussi | Quintasan: no, I upgraded a few days back | 15:52 |
| Quintasan | As ScottK said, DBus got fix'd | 15:52 |
| bambee | Could someone test touchegg with the appropriated hardware please? | 15:52 |
| jussi | ahh, lets see | 15:52 |
| jussi | ooh, thats lots of upgraded stuff... let me see if it hels | 15:53 |
| Quintasan | bulldog98 or ulmlogger: pull-revu-sources touchegg, compile and try using that | 15:53 |
| Quintasan | we need that done SOON (TM) | 15:53 |
| Quintasan | That's sure stupid, Eject doesnt do umount before trying to eject | 15:59 |
| jussi | was it libqt4-dbus that needed to be upgraded or? | 16:01 |
| ScottK | jussi: Read kubuntu-devel | 16:03 |
| jussi | ScottK: hrm... qdbus does not seem to exist (Im using archive.ubuntu.com, fully dist upgraded) ? | 16:10 |
| ScottK | Hmmm. | 16:12 |
| ScottK | jussi: What version of Qt do you have? | 16:12 |
| jussi | libqt4-dev is Version: 4:4.7.3-4ubuntu5 | 16:13 |
| ScottK | You don't have the fixed one then. | 16:13 |
| ScottK | What you want is ubuntu6 | 16:13 |
| ScottK | So you're in the "depending on how long your mirror takes to update" situation. | 16:14 |
| jussi | isnt archive.ubuntu.com the main mirror that goes first? | 16:14 |
| ScottK | It is, but it's a mirror nontheless. | 16:14 |
| ScottK | I'd have expected it there by now, but stuff happens | 16:15 |
| jussi | oh look at that, apt-get updated and dist upgraded and its getting pulled in now :) | 16:15 |
| jussi | libappindicator1 libboost-dev are still being held though | 16:16 |
| ScottK | Unrelated. | 16:16 |
| Quintasan | 94% | 16:16 |
| Quintasan | Oh wait, it's the first build | 16:16 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 16:16 |
| jussi | also, anyone know what this is: W: libwmf0.2-7 is already removed. It is recommended to run defoma-app purge libwmf0.2-7. | 16:17 |
| Quintasan | Since it 's a warning you can ignore it :P | 16:18 |
| jussi | lol | 16:19 |
| * Quintasan hides | 16:19 | |
| maco | ive had a simlar thing show up before | 16:19 |
| maco | when i ran defoma-app purge bleh it did some stuff and said the same thing during it | 16:19 |
| jussi | right, lets go see if kubuntu boots now | 16:19 |
| Quintasan | yofel, ScottK: Can I have a review before I merge? https://code.launchpad.net/~quintasan/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace/+merge/72066 | 16:25 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Depends/Build-depends in your changelog entry. | 16:26 |
| ScottK | What's Conflicts: kde-window-manager-gles (=< ${binary:Version}) ? | 16:28 |
| Quintasan | What the... | 16:28 |
| Quintasan | BRR | 16:28 |
| * Quintasan deletes that | 16:29 | |
| Quintasan | I pushed wrong stuff | 16:29 |
| jussi | nope, still no boot :( | 16:30 |
| Quintasan | Can we have /var/log/Xorg.0.log? | 16:31 |
| * Quintasan goes playing Harvest Moon | 16:31 | |
| jussi | Quintasan: when it doesnt boot, it doesnt get anywhere, just hangs with a white flashing cursor | 16:34 |
| Quintasan | Can you boot it in recovery mode? | 16:34 |
| jussi | yes | 16:34 |
| jussi | I do that, hit resume, then startx and get into kde like that | 16:34 |
| Quintasan | :O | 16:34 |
| jussi | strange thing | 16:35 |
| * Quintasan has no idea how to debug boot up | 16:35 | |
| shadeslayer | kdeinit4 is consuming a entire core -.- | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: yeah that has happened to me a couple of times | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | some random update solved the issue for me | 16:39 |
| * jussi sighs. its sucky to live in a quiet world... | 16:40 | |
| yofel | well, you could either disable splash, or set gfxplayload to text to get actual boot messages (and disable 'quiet'). If you want even more verbose boot add '--verbose' to the kernel command line | 16:43 |
| ulmlogger | Quintasan: no worky worky | 16:48 |
| ulmlogger | already tried that days ago | 16:48 |
| ulmlogger | there is some problem with touch input | 16:48 |
| ulmlogger | only once you use two fingers it will actually be detected as input | 16:48 |
| ulmlogger | so it is a bit of a drag | 16:48 |
| Quintasan | Is it a problem with the application or the input magic? | 16:48 |
| ulmlogger | litterally :P | 16:48 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: Maybe cnd can help you with that? | 16:48 |
| ulmlogger | Quintasan: not sure | 16:48 |
| ulmlogger | probably input magic | 16:49 |
| ScottK | If it sort of works like that, I'm OK with FFe. | 16:49 |
| ulmlogger | touchegg is not meant for touch devices | 16:49 |
| ulmlogger | it is meant for touch pads | 16:49 |
| ulmlogger | the things on a laptop | 16:49 |
| ulmlogger | where it works perfectly | 16:49 |
| ScottK | I see. | 16:50 |
| ScottK | Someone point me at the FFe bug and I'll approve it. | 16:51 |
| Quintasan | bambee: ^ | 16:54 |
| bambee | Quintasan: pong | 16:56 |
| * bambee is opening thunderbird | 16:56 | |
| bambee | bug 828637 | 16:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 828637 in Ubuntu "Feature Freeze Exception request for Touchégg" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/828637 | 16:57 |
| bambee | ScottK, Quintasan: ^ | 16:57 |
| ScottK | bambee: Approved. | 16:58 |
| bambee | woo! thanks! :D | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | jussi: On my G+ post, I forgot to mention we are doing that after Feature Freeze :DDD | 17:09 |
| * rgreening wishes he had a G+ invite. | 17:36 | |
| rgreening | ^ Quintasan :) | 17:36 |
| jjesse | i can give you one | 17:36 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: email please :) | 17:36 |
| rgreening | jjesse: cool. would be sweet | 17:36 |
| jjesse | https://plus.google.com/_/notifications/ngemlink?path=%2F%3Fgpinv%3DYm4x4zDkd94%3AF3ZUHdJh1fQ | 17:36 |
| rgreening | roderick DOT greening AT gmail.com | 17:36 |
| Quintasan | Oh jjesse beat it to me | 17:37 |
| jjesse | click on the link | 17:37 |
| rgreening | YAY! | 17:37 |
| rgreening | thanks. | 17:39 |
| ScottK | Please be fixing http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110816-oneiric.html#kubuntu | 18:25 |
| ScottK | I think I got pimlibs and company fixed. | 18:26 |
| micahg | \o/ packagesets get more eyes :) | 18:40 |
| afiestas | rbelem today I explained the plans for the places view to ereslibre | 18:58 |
| afiestas | he loved them :) | 18:58 |
| rbelem | afiestas, awesome :-D | 19:04 |
| rbelem | afiestas, i already stated to hack that | 19:04 |
| rbelem | afiestas, i changed it to threeview | 19:04 |
| afiestas | already? | 19:04 |
| afiestas | that was fast | 19:04 |
| rbelem | afiestas, :-D | 19:04 |
| rbelem | afiestas, it is a pretty simple | 19:05 |
| afiestas | rbelem: if there is not a screenshot, it never existed :p | 19:07 |
| rbelem | afiestas, as soon as i arrive home i will send a screenshot to you :-) | 19:26 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, ping | 19:26 |
| markey | konnichiwa me friends, we be doing the hangoutery, and if ye shall desire, ye can join the funy | 19:52 |
| bcooksley | Hi | 20:17 |
| bcooksley | is somebody around who feels responsible for the kde-workspace patch "kubuntu_11_fix_root_only_kcms.diff"? | 20:18 |
| bcooksley | it is terribly broken | 20:18 |
| ulmlogger | it is a patch imported from fedora actually | 20:18 |
| ulmlogger | might be that they have an unbroken version | 20:18 |
| bcooksley | I see | 20:18 |
| ulmlogger | bcooksley: is there a builtin way to handle this? | 20:18 |
| bcooksley | kind of | 20:18 |
| ulmlogger | because I really think that would be a worthwhile feature | 20:18 |
| ulmlogger | also in terms of 3rd party integration | 20:19 |
| bcooksley | through the external application feature | 20:19 |
| ulmlogger | think company wants to expand systemsettings for internal stuff they need | 20:19 |
| bcooksley | see kde-workspace/systemsettings/examples/external-application.txt | 20:19 |
| ulmlogger | bcooksley: cheers | 20:19 |
| bcooksley | they'll show up just like any other module, and have a replacement fill in provided by system settings when clicked | 20:19 |
| bcooksley | allowing you to relaunch it if you want | 20:20 |
| bcooksley | if you wanted to reimplement root mode - rather than adjusting the control modules | 20:20 |
| bcooksley | line 209 of ModuleView.cpp is where it should be implemented | 20:20 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: pong | 20:21 |
| bcooksley | the patch causes http://bugs.kde.org/280356 | 20:21 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 280356 in general "Impossible to reuse the System Settings window once Partition manager is started" [Normal,New] | 20:21 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: Are you going to fix it then? | 20:22 |
| ScottK | That might go nicely with Quintasan GLES magic for one big -workspace upload. | 20:22 |
| ScottK | bcooksley: Thanks for pointing it out. | 20:22 |
| bcooksley | ScottK: np | 20:23 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: if only I figureed out how | 20:23 |
| bcooksley | if you're talking about system settings, I wrote the code in question (moduleview.cpp) so feel free to ask about that area | 20:25 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, is there some something that i have to do? :-) | 20:26 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: Since the amount of C++ I know would fit into a very small thimble, I think it's up to you. | 20:27 |
| ulmlogger | well, point being, I just tried to whip the external app stuff into an existing rootonly kcm and everything goes kaput | 20:28 |
| ulmlogger | ah | 20:28 |
| ulmlogger | getting somewhere | 20:28 |
| ulmlogger | or not | 20:28 |
| bcooksley | updated sycoca? | 20:29 |
| ulmlogger | bcooksley: there is some stuff weird with it | 20:34 |
| bcooksley | such as.. | 20:34 |
| ulmlogger | well, with partitonmanager anyway | 20:35 |
| yofel | great, tomahawk has fooey licensing too ~.~ | 20:35 |
| bcooksley | what does it do ulmlogger? | 20:36 |
| bcooksley | it is supposed to launch the module when you click the icon | 20:36 |
| ulmlogger | well, there is an actual partitionmanager kcm, or rather it is a kcm | 20:36 |
| ulmlogger | no idea why | 20:36 |
| ulmlogger | bcooksley: yeah, I got the desktop file fixed up | 20:36 |
| ulmlogger | works now | 20:36 |
| bcooksley | ok, cool | 20:37 |
| ulmlogger | it lacks busy indication though, might be my fault I guess | 20:37 |
| bcooksley | the system settings app itself forks that off | 20:37 |
| bcooksley | so it is now independent | 20:37 |
| ulmlogger | right | 20:37 |
| ulmlogger | gotta talk to fedora about this too | 20:38 |
| * ulmlogger is a tad drunk right now, so he'll put this on his todo | 20:38 | |
| bcooksley | ok, thanks for taking the lead on this | 20:38 |
| bcooksley | if they still want compat with existing root modules | 20:38 |
| bcooksley | then the way to do it is to copy ExternalAppModule, modify that | 20:38 |
| bcooksley | then tie it in like ExternalAppModule is in ModuleView | 20:39 |
| ulmlogger | noted, thanks for the info :) | 20:40 |
| ulmlogger | yofel: markey will be pleased to know | 20:41 |
| ulmlogger | yofel: send me a mail | 20:41 |
| ulmlogger | I'll meet with muesli tomorrow | 20:41 |
| yofel | I can talk to muesli myself on IRC. tomahawk itself is mostly ok, but the thirdparty stuff they ship has some missing copies | 20:42 |
| ulmlogger | yofel: 3rd party code copies are discouraged in the archive :P | 20:45 |
| ulmlogger | so that is a no go pretty much really | 20:45 |
| ulmlogger | especially since one can build tomahawk without that shite | 20:45 |
| ScottK | If it's just library copies, yes, please get rid of them. | 20:45 |
| yofel | $ ls thirdparty/ | 20:46 |
| yofel | CMakeLists.txt jreen liblastfm2 libportfwd qtweetlib qxt SPMediaKeyTap winhttp | 20:46 |
| yofel | haven't checked if anything of that is actually needed | 20:46 |
| ulmlogger | none | 20:46 |
| yofel | hm, getting rid of that dir would need some cmake fixes it seems | 20:48 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| CIA-52 | [kubuntu-tablet-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110818211305-kxpym7cqh0dx9a5e * (24 files in 7 dirs) Initial release | 21:13 |
| ulmlogger | bulldog98_: https://code.launchpad.net/kubuntu-tablet-settings plz try, mind that you will have to hook it into startkde as of yet | 21:16 |
| ulmlogger | or deploy an xession file | 21:16 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: ^ | 21:16 |
| ulmlogger | Quintasan_: ^ | 21:16 |
| yofel | ulmlogger: well, 2 of those are optional (without archive packages), qxt is in the archive but with different ABI, liblastfm2 would need some cmake find magic and libportfwd is somehow built-in | 21:20 |
| yofel | SPMediaKeyTap and winhttp are mac/win | 21:21 |
| ulmlogger | too drunk | 21:24 |
| * yofel has a headache and postpones till tomorrow | 21:27 | |
| yofel | hm, now I have a runaway kded process too | 22:22 |
| ulmlogger | yeah, Mamarok had it too | 22:24 |
| ulmlogger | though I really do not feel like looking into that shitty code again | 22:24 |
| yofel | 3 people in +1 have it too | 22:24 |
| yofel | but I don't get which of the 6 threads gdb sees is broken... | 22:25 |
| yofel | hm, thread 4 doesn't start with __GI___poll | 22:25 |
| yofel | #0 0x00007f71988c1913 in select () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:82 | 22:26 |
| yofel | #1 0x00007f7199cb36d1 in QProcessManager::run (this=0x7f719a0055a0) at io/qprocess_unix.cpp:245 | 22:26 |
| yofel | #2 0x00007f7199beaca5 in QThreadPrivate::start (arg=0x7f719a0055a0) at thread/qthread_unix.cpp:320 | 22:26 |
| yofel | #3 0x00007f7196389edc in start_thread (arg=0x7f717f49e700) at pthread_create.c:304 | 22:26 |
| yofel | #4 0x00007f71988c889d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:112 | 22:26 |
| yofel | #5 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () | 22:26 |
| ulmlogger | depper | 22:30 |
| ulmlogger | deeper | 22:30 |
| yofel | http://paste.kde.org/111499 | 22:30 |
| yofel | that's all I get | 22:30 |
| ulmlogger | ok | 22:33 |
| ulmlogger | yofel: valgrind it | 22:33 |
| ulmlogger | with --tool=callgrind | 22:33 |
| ulmlogger | let it run for a bit | 22:33 |
| yofel | how does one valgrind a running process? | 22:33 |
| ulmlogger | with a bit of luck it should show what is called too often | 22:33 |
| ulmlogger | ie what causes the endless loop eating th ecpu | 22:33 |
| ulmlogger | yofel: google it | 22:33 |
| yofel | (if that's even possible) | 22:33 |
| ulmlogger | sorry, I have the command somewhere | 22:33 |
| ulmlogger | but I am too drunk to look for it | 22:34 |
| ulmlogger | or actually too tired | 22:34 |
| yofel | ok, no | 22:34 |
| ulmlogger | if you do not feel like it I can look for it tomorrow | 22:34 |
| ulmlogger | actually I think I pasted the command in the cpu usage bug for natty | 22:34 |
| ulmlogger | or at least I was close to doing so IIRc | 22:34 |
| yofel | ah wait, callgrind can do that somehow it seems | 22:35 |
| yofel | hm no | 22:36 |
| yofel | still needs to be run in valgrind first | 22:36 |
| yofel | ulmlogger: uh fun | 22:38 |
| ulmlogger | yofel: callgrind is a tool for valgrind | 22:38 |
| yofel | trying to run kded by hand gives: | 22:38 |
| yofel | kded4: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/ntrack/modules/ntrack-libnl3.so: undefined symbol: ntrack_list_insert_sorted | 22:38 |
| ulmlogger | oh yeah, you might need the dbgsym package from ddebs | 22:38 |
| ulmlogger | also FWIW valgrind is essentially just a shell for varous memory analysis tools | 22:38 |
| ulmlogger | valgrind, callgrind, cachegrind, massif... | 22:38 |
| yofel | I know what valgrind is, used it a few times, it's just that you can't attach it to running processes since it emulates things | 22:39 |
| yofel | great, now I have NO kded process anymore | 22:39 |
| yofel | ulmlogger: ROFLMAO | 22:40 |
| yofel | last ntrack upload | 22:40 |
| yofel | * debian/libntrack0.symbols: add missing ntrack_info_human_banner symbol. | 22:40 |
| yofel | well, not really | 22:41 |
| yofel | let's see if this UDD thing actually has a use for once | 22:41 |
| yofel | ulmlogger: uh... why would a symbol in a library end up as Undefined but still appear in nm? | 22:55 |
| yofel | $ nm -DC /usr/lib/ntrack/modules/ntrack-libnl3.so | grep ntrack_list_insert_sorted | 22:55 |
| yofel | U ntrack_list_insert_sorted | 22:55 |
| * ScottK is almost sure ntrack is to blame and whatever it is will turn out to be a problem on Natty as well. | 22:59 | |
| ScottK | Go yofel. Go. | 22:59 |
| bambee | Riddell: Riddell: as I am a kubuntu member now, could you subscribe me to kde-packagers please ? (however, there's no hurry) | 23:02 |
| yofel | +1 | 23:03 |
| yofel | hm, rebuilding ntrack changed nothing | 23:04 |
| yofel | someone fix debsums... | 23:05 |
| yofel | ScottK: it doesn't really help that ntrack-libnl3.so has no symbols file in the ntrack package... | 23:07 |
| ScottK | yofel: You know about the dbgsym repo, right? | 23:08 |
| yofel | I said symbols file, not debugging symbols | 23:09 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 23:09 |
| yofel | I have latter | 23:09 |
| ScottK | cyphermox: ^^^ You should fix that. | 23:09 |
| ScottK | Today that would be a requirement to get in Main. | 23:09 |
| yofel | well, the other files have one, but this lib seems to be a module | 23:10 |
| yofel | but then it shouldn't make kded fail... | 23:10 |
| wgrant | ScottK: What's broken? | 23:15 |
| ScottK | yofel needs symbols for ntrack-libnl3.so to troubleshoot random ntrack causes other processes to consume 100% of CPU. | 23:16 |
| Riddell | bambee: I think you need to file a bug on bugs.kde.org for sysadmin to subscribe you | 23:23 |
| bambee | Riddell: oh sure | 23:23 |
| bambee | np | 23:23 |
| cyphermox | ScottK: reading backlog | 23:43 |
| * yofel gives up for today | 23:43 | |
| wgrant | ScottK: That will teach me to read my scrollback while half asleep. Your link to the FTBFS page showed up as a ping, so I thought you were telling me there was something wrong with it. | 23:44 |
| wgrant | Ahem. | 23:45 |
| cyphermox | ntrack-libnl3 has no symbols file, yeah, that's possible... | 23:47 |
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