| prpplague | cooloney: hey buddy! | 03:41 |
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| cooloney | prpplague: hey, man | 03:41 |
| prpplague | cooloney: what's cooking today? | 03:41 |
| cooloney | prpplague: heh, acutally i don't have much rice today | 03:42 |
| prpplague | cooloney: hehe | 03:42 |
| prpplague | cooloney: guess you'll have to use beer instead | 03:43 |
| cooloney | prpplague: good idea. need buy beer then. | 03:43 |
| cooloney | prpplague: will you goto plumbers conf? | 03:43 |
| prpplague | hehe | 03:43 |
| prpplague | cooloney: sorry no, too many things to work on | 03:44 |
| cooloney | prpplague: ic | 03:44 |
| cooloney | prpplague: i think you will go to Prague for ELC-E | 03:44 |
| prpplague | cooloney: OH? | 03:44 |
| prpplague | cooloney: you'll be able to make it | 03:44 |
| prpplague | ? | 03:44 |
| cooloney | prpplague: oh, i won't, i will go to Orlando for our UDS | 03:45 |
| prpplague | cooloney: yea i figured as much | 03:45 |
| prpplague | cooloney: we'll have to meet up in the spring | 03:46 |
| cooloney | prpplague: right, might be during ELC in SFO. | 03:46 |
| prpplague | cooloney: sounds like a plan | 03:47 |
| prpplague | hehe | 03:47 |
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| ogra_ | steev, thats on purpose, ubuntu-core is the bare minimum to *run* a machine, it isnt configured at all, thats up to you (and it is expected that you know what you are doing) | 07:47 |
| ogra_ | grr, mono killed all builds | 07:49 |
| ogra_ | s/builds/image builds/ | 07:49 |
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| mahmoh | ok, so I was able to install to SD/MMC on the panda where I was seeing usb-stick problems during install yesterday (new build too though) | 12:25 |
| mahmoh | cmagina: ogra_ ^ | 12:25 |
| cmagina | mahmoh: good to hear | 12:26 |
| ogra_ | yes, d-i was fixed | 12:26 |
| mahmoh | I'm going to try again to the usb-stick just to ensure it's not a build change that fixed it, if it's still broke is it worth entering a bug against a particular usb-stick install ? | 12:26 |
| ogra_ | (see oneiric-changes ;) ) | 12:26 |
| mahmoh | ogra_: so the problem may not have been the stick after all? | 12:26 |
| ogra_ | well, d-i was using an old kernel | 12:27 |
| ogra_ | thats also the reason why you get questions about the kernel package usually | 12:27 |
| mahmoh | it was failing at kernel install time but installing an old kernel shouldn't fail, no? | 12:27 |
| ogra_ | heh, depends on the bugs in that kernel ;) | 12:28 |
| mahmoh | here's another one for you, the net install prompts for a host mirror and pre-populates with "mirror" vs. ports.ubuntu.com, that's a bug too right? | 12:29 |
| mahmoh | ogra_: ^? | 12:30 |
| ogra_ | yes | 12:30 |
| ogra_ | sounds like a preseed file issue | 12:30 |
| mahmoh | if so, which package should that bug get assigned to? | 12:30 |
| mahmoh | yeah | 12:30 |
| mahmoh | ogra_: ^^ | 12:34 |
| ogra_ | just go for debian-installer (and check if there arent bugs already, might not be arch specific) | 12:34 |
| mahmoh | ok, so is there nayone to ping about this or just wait? bug 828718 | 12:46 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 828718 in debian-installer "arm net install prepopulates archive with - mirror - vs. - ports.ubuntu.com" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/828718 | 12:46 |
| mahmoh | ogra_: ^ ;) | 12:49 |
| rsalveti | janimo: seems the pvr crash is somehow related with the new xorg =\ | 13:07 |
| rsalveti | first impression is that the fbdev is being loaded 2 times, and at the second time it gets loaded it crashes with a corrupted double-linked list | 13:08 |
| rsalveti | investigating | 13:08 |
| rsalveti | even with the linaro kernel I'm getting it, so it's not related with the kernel | 13:08 |
| janimo | rsalveti, ok, for me it worked with a Xorg of last week, so maybe it will not be too hard to find the issue | 13:19 |
| rsalveti | janimo: oh, good to know | 13:19 |
| rsalveti | maybe I broke something :P | 13:19 |
| janimo | rsalveti, it seems to me that setting setenv bootdelay in boot.scr on panda has no effect, as the default delay of 3 is used before actually starting the boot sequence? | 13:20 |
| janimo | so reading boot.scr happens after the countdown | 13:21 |
| rsalveti | janimo: yeah, guess this is happening before boot.scr | 13:22 |
| rsalveti | so something to change at the source code | 13:22 |
| janimo | ok. | 13:22 |
| rsalveti | at the board specific header I guess | 13:22 |
| janimo | or have it read boot.scr but not run anything from it, just load env values | 13:22 |
| janimo | otherwise I am not sure how the autoboot was supposed to work if not settable from a non-default script | 13:23 |
| rsalveti | janimo: yeah, makes sense | 13:37 |
| rsalveti | janimo: seems u-boot in general is only setting autoboot at compile time, for all boards | 13:40 |
| rsalveti | but what you want kind of make sense | 13:41 |
| rsalveti | would work more like what we have at grub | 13:41 |
| rsalveti | that the user can set up how many seconds before autoboot | 13:41 |
| rsalveti | maybe something to improve at u-boot later on | 13:42 |
| rsalveti | jcrigby should know it better, maybe this was discussed already | 13:42 |
| rsalveti | guess jcrigby should be up in a few minutes ;-) | 13:42 |
| jcrigby | janimo, rsalveti: I have noticed too that doing stuff in the boot script (either boot.scr or uEnv.txt) is not optimal since it happens "late". | 13:45 |
| jcrigby | fwiw a patch hit the u-boot list this week that sets default boot delay to 3 seconds instead of 10 | 13:46 |
| rsalveti | janimo: ok, the segfault I'm getting is only happening with using the latest libs package as I removed the 99-pvr.conf file | 13:46 |
| rsalveti | janimo: by trying to make xorg to find about the hw and driver without the need of a config file | 13:46 |
| rsalveti | seems it works fine for natty, but for oneiric it doesn't | 13:46 |
| rsalveti | will check that later, but if you enable that ppa it'll probably work fine, if you use the xorg config file for pvr | 13:47 |
| rsalveti | just tested and it worked with the lt kernel, let me reboot at the ubuntu one now | 13:47 |
| rsalveti | jcrigby: great, that helps already :-) | 13:47 |
| rsalveti | jcrigby: seems that trying to load the boot.scr to at least set up the env vars would be useful in some way | 13:48 |
| rsalveti | but don't know if it'd break some other stuff :-) | 13:48 |
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| janimo | rsalveti, ah indeed, I still needed pvr.conf , the linaro ppa libs (the newer ones) did not work without it | 13:55 |
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| rsalveti | janimo: yup, seems to work with the ubuntu kernel | 13:58 |
| rsalveti | with the fixes I pointed at the email | 13:58 |
| rsalveti | janimo: so, if you want to test it now, just grab the lt-ti kernel and the dkms and the libs packages available at the overlay | 13:59 |
| janimo | rsalveti, great hopefully ppisati will upload them in the next round | 13:59 |
| rsalveti | all available for oneiric | 13:59 |
| rsalveti | the dkms should be in shape to push to ubuntu already | 13:59 |
| janimo | rsalveti, I already have it running with the lt kernel, but needed the ubuntu one for easier install, and to also be able to run perf | 13:59 |
| rsalveti | but the lib package still needs some love | 13:59 |
| rsalveti | janimo: oh yeah, true | 14:00 |
| rsalveti | can give you the packages later if you need | 14:00 |
| rsalveti | meeting time | 14:00 |
| janimo | ok | 14:00 |
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| austeregrim-gh | i'm surprised there isn't more action for ubuntu on arm devices | 17:54 |
| infinity | There's a fair bit. | 17:54 |
| austeregrim-gh | I'm interested | 17:54 |
| austeregrim-gh | I've got a toshiba thrive, I've got some interest in trying to put ubuntu on it... | 17:55 |
| austeregrim-gh | but the ubuntu pages lack alot of basic info... for arm. | 17:55 |
| infinity | Well, every new device requires some hacking and fiddling to make go. | 17:56 |
| infinity | And we don't tend to focus much on tablets, except for hobby hacking, since Ubuntu isn't (yet) a particularly useful tablet OS. | 17:56 |
| austeregrim-gh | we've got an unlocked boot loader, and have rooted the android os on it... just looking to go one step further | 17:56 |
| austeregrim-gh | i agree ubuntu isn't ready for tablets yet... but there's a usb port on it, that I can pop a keyboard into | 17:57 |
| austeregrim-gh | im sure as tablets increase in userbase, ubuntu will eventually follow into ... but I'll admit, I'm new to it... but I understand alot. :-P | 17:59 |
| infinity | If it's based on the nvidia tegra (I'm guessing it might be, but I can't find proper tech specs), the work we've done for the Toshiba ac100 netbooks might directly translate over. | 18:01 |
| austeregrim-gh | tegra2 | 18:01 |
| infinity | Yeah, the ac100 is tegra2 as well. | 18:02 |
| infinity | And likely very similar under the hood, though I'd make no promises. | 18:02 |
| austeregrim-gh | thats what I was thinking.. but the ac100's page (via ubuntu's wiki) is old and hasn't been updated in a while | 18:02 |
| infinity | We'll refresh some of those docs once our ac100 images are shipping (which is soon). | 18:02 |
| infinity | If we can turn the ac100 stuff into a more generic toshiba-tegra image or something, that would be shiny. But I've never actually even touched a Thrive, so... | 18:03 |
| austeregrim-gh | would there be a posibility of getting a test image? | 18:04 |
| infinity | That would require our tests images to be useful. Give it a day or two, though, ogra's hard at work on that. | 18:05 |
| austeregrim-gh | no worries, it was more of a put my toes in the water to see what fish bite.. | 18:05 |
| austeregrim-gh | also if theres anything that I can get from the thrive to assist, information wise. I can probably get it.. whatever linux reports from android. | 18:08 |
| austeregrim-gh | for general comparison, about hardware | 18:08 |
| infinity | Currently, I think we have too much on our plate right now, unless a community member steps up (you?) to learn how it all works and make it go. :P | 18:09 |
| infinity | But I'm perfectly willing to change my position on that when I'm less busy. ;) | 18:10 |
| infinity | I wouldn't be at all shocked to discover that the thrive is just the ac100 without a keyboard, though. The ac100 always felt more like a proof-of-concept product than a finished deal. | 18:10 |
| austeregrim-gh | I've been on the forefront of rooting the thrive in android, working with the tabletroms.com folks... | 18:11 |
| austeregrim-gh | so I would see me taking to ubuntu (or linux in general) as my next plausible step | 18:11 |
| infinity | *nod* | 18:13 |
| infinity | Well, I'd recommend talking to ogra about his ac100 stuff as a start. | 18:13 |
| infinity | But, like I said, giving him a few days to deliver it might help. ;) | 18:13 |
| austeregrim-gh | understood | 18:13 |
| austeregrim-gh | btw, Thrive model = AT105 (does not surprise me if your theory is at all correct) | 18:16 |
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