staatsfeindinwhat is this channel about?01:02
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meetingologyMeeting started Thu Aug 18 15:00:34 2011 UTC.  The chair is NCommander. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.15:00
meetingologyUseful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.15:00
NCommander#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Meeting/2011/2011081815:01
NCommanderhrm, new boot, and it seems to be lagging :-(15:01
NCommander#topic Standing Items15:01
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meetingologyTOPIC: Standing Items15:01
davidmG'day all15:02
NCommander#link http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html15:02
NCommander#link http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-ubuntu-11.10-beta-1.html15:02
ogra_you can use ubuntu-arm now15:02
ogra_(i fixed that last week)15:02
NCommanderI can't decide if my laptop is completely foobared, or if its theinternet here :-(15:02
* NCommander is lagging something feirce15:02
NCommanderregardless the burndown chart doesn't look happy15:03
NCommanderthank you ogra_15:03
ogra_the beta one looks fine15:03
ogra_we're a little above trend but not earth shattering15:03
NCommanderugh, yeah, I'm lagging something hidiously bad15:03
NCommanderso I'll take your word for it (the image won't even load properly on thenew link for me)15:04
ogra_move :)15:04
NCommander(the trendline for ubuntu-arm shows '12' as the start point so .... yeah)15:04
ogra_yeah, ignore th etrend lines15:04
NCommander#topic ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey)15:04
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meetingologyTOPIC: ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey)15:04
NCommanderLXC on ARM should work out of the box once a new meta package to ship 2101 out of the box goes15:05
ogra_i dont even know if there is a way to adjust it on other than the ubuntu-arm.html page15:05
NCommanderI'm now looking at openstack on ARM15:05
NCommanderand have some concerns since it seems to want an EC2-style image which we don't build for OMAP. Further research required15:05
ogra_NCommander, is there anything i should change regarding the ac100 kernel ? (the server team uses dynabooks)15:05
NCommander[action] NCommander to review openstack image requirements and report back15:05
meetingologyACTION: NCommander to review openstack image requirements and report back15:05
NCommanderoh good, the old alias work15:06
ogra_wrt LXC i mean15:06
NCommanderogra_: run lxc-checkconfig. Ignore the namespace error, and make sure you can mount a cgroup with -o clone_children15:06
ogra_k, thx15:06
NCommanderIdeally, just kick off a LXC instance15:06
ogra_will test that15:06
NCommanderlxc-create does most of the hard work, poke me on IRC15:06
NCommanderMy ac100 is currently dead and running natty so it won't be much help15:07
ogra_will do, if i dont get along15:07
infinityogra_: You could just diff your config with the omap4 one, ignore hardware bits, and make the rest match. :P15:07
ogra_there should be an oneiric installer soon15:07
NCommander#topic Kernel Status (cooloney, ppisati)15:07
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meetingologyTOPIC: Kernel Status (cooloney, ppisati)15:07
ogra_infinity, yeahm, thats what i usually try ...15:07
ppisatiomap4 meta has been updated to 1202.6 (latest TI BSP + lxc fixes)15:08
ppisation the other end, work continues on the "arm scheduler bug"15:08
NCommanderSweet. Next daily should then have LXC out of the box15:08
NCommander(more or less)15:08
ppisatifound (and fixed) an smp clock bug, but didn't help15:08
ogra_if you get a daily :)15:08
* NCommander smacks ogra_ 15:08
NCommanderthat's an unhappy thought, and unhappy thoughts are disallowed while I'm chairing a meeting15:09
ppisatiprofiling is undergoing, but so far i didn't find the bttleneck yet15:09
NCommanderppisati: sounds like the SMP issue on panda is proving to be an extremely difficult nut to crack15:09
infinitys/on panda//15:09
ppisatiNCommander: definitely, but i've started looking at it just yesterday, so...15:10
ppisatilet's see15:10
janimoppisati, I think we do not have latencytop enabled in our omap4 kernel15:10
NCommanderinfinity: point taken15:10
ppisatibut yes, it's nasty15:10
janimoI tried to use that to debug the issues two weeks ago, and then found it is ok on nosmp15:10
ppisatijanimo: someone told me that latencytop was broken on arm, but don't remember who15:10
janimoppisati, Linaro have it enabled, so can't hurt15:11
ppisatiah ok15:11
ppisatii'll try it ou15:11
janimoI hear dit was  ok un UP, not too ok on SMP15:11
ppisatiusing perf right now15:11
ppisatiah yes, and the sgw fix from ricardo :)15:11
ppisatinot pulled yet, but will shortly15:12
janimoppisati, great :)15:12
ppisatithat's all from my side15:12
ogra_good to have you back :)15:12
NCommanderppisati: bestof luck. If you manage to fry your brain on this bug, then you've officially made it as a member of the ARM developer community15:12
ppisatii will15:12
NCommander[topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo)15:13
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meetingologyTOPIC: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo)15:13
NCommandermain is looking happier15:13
infinityAnd I have a ton of uploads sitting here to re-transition ocaml today.15:13
NCommanderwho fixed ocaml?15:14
infinityDebian maintainer fixed it, I uploaded said fix.15:14
NCommanderWas it an underlying bug with binutil's handling Cortex A8 errta?15:14
infinityNot really.15:14
NCommanderthat was the train of thought I was working on before life got busy15:14
infinityMore undefined behaviour that required us to jam in an extra section and make everything happy again.15:15
ogra_omg !15:15
ogra_libx86 fails15:15
janimoocaml using packages still segfault15:15
ogra_someone fix that !15:15
janimoI saw a few today15:15
infinityI mean, one could argue it's binutils' fault, but ocaml was hand-crafting bits in a "workaround the compiler" sort of way, so their own foot they shot.15:15
NCommanderogra_: $#!@I NFU'ed that package last cycle15:15
infinityjanimo: Yes, see above about re-transitioning.15:15
janimoinfinity, oki15:15
infinityjanimo: Anything build before my last ocaml upload is broken.15:16
janimoinfinity, I gave back two packages today and yesterday and they segfaulted15:16
janimomaybe you uploaded a new ocaml yesterday?15:16
janimoor they need explicit reupload for transitioning?15:17
infinityjanimo: Which 2?  If they depend on other non-transitioned stuff, they'd still break.15:17
infinityjanimo: There's an order here. :)15:17
janimoorder? In the builds? awesome news :)15:18
ogra_pfft, orders .... just throw the whole bunch at the buildd until nothing returns :P15:18
janimoI'll check to see which exactly15:18
infinityjanimo: (But I'd appreciate data points anyway, if it's only half-fixed, I'd like to know... I suspect you're just bouncing packages with broken/un-transitioned build-deps, though)15:18
* NCommander beats ogra_ with something heavier15:18
NCommanderSee? Fun noises.15:19
ogra_just for you :)15:19
ogra_move ?15:19
NCommander#topic ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander)15:20
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meetingologyTOPIC: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander)15:20
ogra_desktop is broken thanks to archive skew15:20
infinityIt's broken thanks to archive breakage.15:20
ogra_on monday sw-center, since tuesday mono joined15:20
infinity(ie: every arch is broken)15:20
ogra_sw-center is fine again, that affected all arches15:21
ogra_beyond that, ac100 image is progressing, my final livefs testbuild should finish any minute15:21
ogra_server preinstalled are fine, netboot are fine again since the last d-i uplaod15:22
ogra_janimo, anything about mx5 to report ?15:22
janimoogra_, nope, waiting for the kernels to test live image15:23
ogra_ah, great (i wondered if my mic was muted :) )15:23
ogra_NCommander, nothing to add from my side15:23
NCommanderENOTOBIN so skipping QA status15:24
NCommander#topic Any Other Business15:24
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meetingologyTOPIC: Any Other Business15:24
ogra_well, i noticed this week how much support tobin does all the time ....15:24
janimoogra_, nope, I just found an inappropriate moment to switch to xubuntu from unity-2d so sometimes my windows disappear :)15:24
davidmtrue enough he is missed15:24
NCommanderOn the flip side, the pull of gravity in the house is no longer slated towards his office15:25
* NCommander runs away15:25
davidmogra_, same can be said about you15:25
infinityYou running from all the things that are now heading your way? :P15:25
ogra_well, my vacation is done now :)15:25
NCommanderpfft, we should just all go on vacation at the same time15:25
NCommanderNo one wouldbe missed if the ARM team disappeared in December15:25
davidm and I'm very happy it is for sure15:25
ogra_davidm, which remids me about the missing paperwork *grin*15:26
davidmOK one item is folks we would like to see at UDS15:26
* NCommander will find some names15:26
infinityDavid Copperfield?15:26
ogra_infinity, huh, really ?15:26
davidmAnyone we really need to sponsor?15:26
* ogra_ would prefer claudia schiffer then15:26
infinityogra_: It was the first sarcastic answer to pop to mind. :P15:26
infinityogra_: But yours is better.15:26
davidmI've seen David Copperfield he is quite good15:27
infinitydavidm: I assume we have our usual Linaro suspects coming already?15:27
davidmmaybe he can make all ARM bugs go away15:27
ogra_we dont sponsor linaro :)15:27
infinityogra_: I know/figured.15:27
davidmyes Linaro will be there as their Linaro connect will be at UDS15:27
NCommanderWe should probably see if we can get LXC upstream/openstack upstream to attend again15:28
* ogra_ has some ideas but will have to talk to people first 15:28
NCommanderif nothing else, I'd like to close the meeting out15:28
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Aug 18 15:28:59 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot . (v 0.1.4)15:29
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-18-15.00.moin.txt15:29
NCommanderAnd done.15:29
NCommanderGrueMaster just left the channel, but I know he'snot here, and if he's on IRC, he's doing something wrong during his VAC15:29
ogra_well, he joined when the meeting started15:30
ogra_i guess he just lurked from his phone or so15:30
NCommanderI have to wonder if he has a script to autojoin15:30
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beunohow's everybody doing today?23:56
holsteinbeuno: doing well :)23:56
beunogood, good!23:57
beunowe're a few minutes from starting23:57
* dscassel settles in.23:58
beunoso we're just missing tenach23:59

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