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ogra_ | moop | 15:00 |
NCommander | #startmeeting | 15:00 |
meetingology | Meeting started Thu Aug 18 15:00:34 2011 UTC. The chair is NCommander. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. | 15:00 |
meetingology | Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting. | 15:00 |
NCommander | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Meeting/2011/20110818 | 15:01 |
NCommander | hrm, new boot, and it seems to be lagging :-( | 15:01 |
NCommander | #topic Standing Items | 15:01 |
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meetingology | TOPIC: Standing Items | 15:01 |
davidm | G'day all | 15:02 |
NCommander | #link http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html | 15:02 |
NCommander | #link http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-ubuntu-11.10-beta-1.html | 15:02 |
ogra_ | you can use ubuntu-arm now | 15:02 |
ogra_ | (i fixed that last week) | 15:02 |
NCommander | I can't decide if my laptop is completely foobared, or if its theinternet here :-( | 15:02 |
* NCommander is lagging something feirce | 15:02 | |
NCommander | regardless the burndown chart doesn't look happy | 15:03 |
ogra_ | http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm.html | 15:03 |
ogra_ | http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm-ubuntu-11.10-beta-1.html | 15:03 |
NCommander | thank you ogra_ | 15:03 |
ogra_ | the beta one looks fine | 15:03 |
ogra_ | we're a little above trend but not earth shattering | 15:03 |
NCommander | ugh, yeah, I'm lagging something hidiously bad | 15:03 |
NCommander | so I'll take your word for it (the image won't even load properly on thenew link for me) | 15:04 |
ogra_ | heh | 15:04 |
ogra_ | move :) | 15:04 |
NCommander | (the trendline for ubuntu-arm shows '12' as the start point so .... yeah) | 15:04 |
ogra_ | yeah, ignore th etrend lines | 15:04 |
NCommander | #topic ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey) | 15:04 |
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meetingology | TOPIC: ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey) | 15:04 |
NCommander | LXC on ARM should work out of the box once a new meta package to ship 2101 out of the box goes | 15:05 |
ogra_ | i dont even know if there is a way to adjust it on other than the ubuntu-arm.html page | 15:05 |
NCommander | *1201 | 15:05 |
NCommander | I'm now looking at openstack on ARM | 15:05 |
NCommander | and have some concerns since it seems to want an EC2-style image which we don't build for OMAP. Further research required | 15:05 |
ogra_ | NCommander, is there anything i should change regarding the ac100 kernel ? (the server team uses dynabooks) | 15:05 |
NCommander | [action] NCommander to review openstack image requirements and report back | 15:05 |
meetingology | ACTION: NCommander to review openstack image requirements and report back | 15:05 |
NCommander | oh good, the old alias work | 15:06 |
ogra_ | wrt LXC i mean | 15:06 |
NCommander | ogra_: run lxc-checkconfig. Ignore the namespace error, and make sure you can mount a cgroup with -o clone_children | 15:06 |
ogra_ | k, thx | 15:06 |
NCommander | Ideally, just kick off a LXC instance | 15:06 |
ogra_ | will test that | 15:06 |
NCommander | lxc-create does most of the hard work, poke me on IRC | 15:06 |
NCommander | My ac100 is currently dead and running natty so it won't be much help | 15:07 |
ogra_ | will do, if i dont get along | 15:07 |
infinity | ogra_: You could just diff your config with the omap4 one, ignore hardware bits, and make the rest match. :P | 15:07 |
ogra_ | there should be an oneiric installer soon | 15:07 |
NCommander | #topic Kernel Status (cooloney, ppisati) | 15:07 |
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meetingology | TOPIC: Kernel Status (cooloney, ppisati) | 15:07 |
* NCommander LAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGS | 15:07 | |
ogra_ | infinity, yeahm, thats what i usually try ... | 15:07 |
ppisati | omap4 meta has been updated to 1202.6 (latest TI BSP + lxc fixes) | 15:08 |
ppisati | on the other end, work continues on the "arm scheduler bug" | 15:08 |
NCommander | Sweet. Next daily should then have LXC out of the box | 15:08 |
NCommander | (more or less) | 15:08 |
ppisati | found (and fixed) an smp clock bug, but didn't help | 15:08 |
ogra_ | if you get a daily :) | 15:08 |
* NCommander smacks ogra_ | 15:08 | |
NCommander | that's an unhappy thought, and unhappy thoughts are disallowed while I'm chairing a meeting | 15:09 |
ogra_ | heh | 15:09 |
ppisati | profiling is undergoing, but so far i didn't find the bttleneck yet | 15:09 |
NCommander | ppisati: sounds like the SMP issue on panda is proving to be an extremely difficult nut to crack | 15:09 |
infinity | s/on panda// | 15:09 |
ppisati | NCommander: definitely, but i've started looking at it just yesterday, so... | 15:10 |
ppisati | let's see | 15:10 |
janimo | ppisati, I think we do not have latencytop enabled in our omap4 kernel | 15:10 |
NCommander | infinity: point taken | 15:10 |
ppisati | but yes, it's nasty | 15:10 |
janimo | I tried to use that to debug the issues two weeks ago, and then found it is ok on nosmp | 15:10 |
ppisati | janimo: someone told me that latencytop was broken on arm, but don't remember who | 15:10 |
janimo | ppisati, Linaro have it enabled, so can't hurt | 15:11 |
ppisati | ah ok | 15:11 |
ppisati | i'll try it ou | 15:11 |
ppisati | t | 15:11 |
janimo | I hear dit was ok un UP, not too ok on SMP | 15:11 |
ppisati | using perf right now | 15:11 |
ppisati | ah yes, and the sgw fix from ricardo :) | 15:11 |
ppisati | not pulled yet, but will shortly | 15:12 |
janimo | ppisati, great :) | 15:12 |
ppisati | that's all from my side | 15:12 |
ogra_ | good to have you back :) | 15:12 |
NCommander | ppisati: bestof luck. If you manage to fry your brain on this bug, then you've officially made it as a member of the ARM developer community | 15:12 |
ppisati | :) | 15:12 |
ogra_ | heh | 15:12 |
ppisati | i will | 15:12 |
NCommander | [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) | 15:13 |
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meetingology | TOPIC: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) | 15:13 |
NCommander | main is looking happier | 15:13 |
infinity | Yup. | 15:13 |
infinity | And I have a ton of uploads sitting here to re-transition ocaml today. | 15:13 |
NCommander | who fixed ocaml? | 15:14 |
NCommander | Ah | 15:14 |
infinity | Debian maintainer fixed it, I uploaded said fix. | 15:14 |
NCommander | Was it an underlying bug with binutil's handling Cortex A8 errta? | 15:14 |
infinity | Not really. | 15:14 |
NCommander | nuts | 15:14 |
NCommander | that was the train of thought I was working on before life got busy | 15:14 |
infinity | More undefined behaviour that required us to jam in an extra section and make everything happy again. | 15:15 |
ogra_ | omg ! | 15:15 |
ogra_ | libx86 fails | 15:15 |
janimo | ocaml using packages still segfault | 15:15 |
ogra_ | someone fix that ! | 15:15 |
janimo | I saw a few today | 15:15 |
infinity | I mean, one could argue it's binutils' fault, but ocaml was hand-crafting bits in a "workaround the compiler" sort of way, so their own foot they shot. | 15:15 |
NCommander | ogra_: $#!@I NFU'ed that package last cycle | 15:15 |
infinity | janimo: Yes, see above about re-transitioning. | 15:15 |
janimo | infinity, oki | 15:15 |
infinity | janimo: Anything build before my last ocaml upload is broken. | 15:16 |
infinity | s/build/built/ | 15:16 |
janimo | infinity, I gave back two packages today and yesterday and they segfaulted | 15:16 |
janimo | maybe you uploaded a new ocaml yesterday? | 15:16 |
janimo | or they need explicit reupload for transitioning? | 15:17 |
infinity | janimo: Which 2? If they depend on other non-transitioned stuff, they'd still break. | 15:17 |
infinity | janimo: There's an order here. :) | 15:17 |
janimo | order? In the builds? awesome news :) | 15:18 |
ogra_ | pfft, orders .... just throw the whole bunch at the buildd until nothing returns :P | 15:18 |
janimo | I'll check to see which exactly | 15:18 |
infinity | janimo: (But I'd appreciate data points anyway, if it's only half-fixed, I'd like to know... I suspect you're just bouncing packages with broken/un-transitioned build-deps, though) | 15:18 |
* NCommander beats ogra_ with something heavier | 15:18 | |
ogra_ | *squeek* | 15:19 |
NCommander | See? Fun noises. | 15:19 |
ogra_ | just for you :) | 15:19 |
ogra_ | move ? | 15:19 |
infinity | Anyhow. | 15:20 |
NCommander | #topic ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) | 15:20 |
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meetingology | TOPIC: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) | 15:20 |
ogra_ | desktop is broken thanks to archive skew | 15:20 |
infinity | It's broken thanks to archive breakage. | 15:20 |
ogra_ | on monday sw-center, since tuesday mono joined | 15:20 |
infinity | (ie: every arch is broken) | 15:20 |
ogra_ | sw-center is fine again, that affected all arches | 15:21 |
ogra_ | beyond that, ac100 image is progressing, my final livefs testbuild should finish any minute | 15:21 |
ogra_ | server preinstalled are fine, netboot are fine again since the last d-i uplaod | 15:22 |
ogra_ | janimo, anything about mx5 to report ? | 15:22 |
janimo | ogra_, nope, waiting for the kernels to test live image | 15:23 |
ogra_ | ah, great (i wondered if my mic was muted :) ) | 15:23 |
ogra_ | NCommander, nothing to add from my side | 15:23 |
NCommander | ENOTOBIN so skipping QA status | 15:24 |
NCommander | #topic Any Other Business | 15:24 |
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meetingology | TOPIC: Any Other Business | 15:24 |
ogra_ | well, i noticed this week how much support tobin does all the time .... | 15:24 |
janimo | ogra_, nope, I just found an inappropriate moment to switch to xubuntu from unity-2d so sometimes my windows disappear :) | 15:24 |
davidm | true enough he is missed | 15:24 |
NCommander | On the flip side, the pull of gravity in the house is no longer slated towards his office | 15:25 |
* NCommander runs away | 15:25 | |
davidm | ogra_, same can be said about you | 15:25 |
infinity | You running from all the things that are now heading your way? :P | 15:25 |
ogra_ | well, my vacation is done now :) | 15:25 |
NCommander | pfft, we should just all go on vacation at the same time | 15:25 |
NCommander | No one wouldbe missed if the ARM team disappeared in December | 15:25 |
davidm | and I'm very happy it is for sure | 15:25 |
ogra_ | davidm, which remids me about the missing paperwork *grin* | 15:26 |
davidm | OK one item is folks we would like to see at UDS | 15:26 |
* NCommander will find some names | 15:26 | |
infinity | David Copperfield? | 15:26 |
ogra_ | infinity, huh, really ? | 15:26 |
davidm | Anyone we really need to sponsor? | 15:26 |
* ogra_ would prefer claudia schiffer then | 15:26 | |
infinity | ogra_: It was the first sarcastic answer to pop to mind. :P | 15:26 |
infinity | ogra_: But yours is better. | 15:26 |
davidm | I've seen David Copperfield he is quite good | 15:27 |
infinity | davidm: I assume we have our usual Linaro suspects coming already? | 15:27 |
davidm | maybe he can make all ARM bugs go away | 15:27 |
ogra_ | we dont sponsor linaro :) | 15:27 |
infinity | ogra_: I know/figured. | 15:27 |
davidm | yes Linaro will be there as their Linaro connect will be at UDS | 15:27 |
NCommander | We should probably see if we can get LXC upstream/openstack upstream to attend again | 15:28 |
* ogra_ has some ideas but will have to talk to people first | 15:28 | |
NCommander | if nothing else, I'd like to close the meeting out | 15:28 |
ogra_ | go | 15:28 |
NCommander | #endmeeting | 15:28 |
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meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Aug 18 15:28:59 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:29 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-18-15.00.moin.txt | 15:29 |
NCommander | And done. | 15:29 |
ogra_ | :) | 15:29 |
NCommander | WTF | 15:29 |
infinity | ? | 15:29 |
NCommander | GrueMaster just left the channel, but I know he'snot here, and if he's on IRC, he's doing something wrong during his VAC | 15:29 |
ogra_ | well, he joined when the meeting started | 15:30 |
ogra_ | i guess he just lurked from his phone or so | 15:30 |
NCommander | I have to wonder if he has a script to autojoin | 15:30 |
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beuno | how's everybody doing today? | 23:56 |
holstein | beuno: doing well :) | 23:56 |
beuno | good, good! | 23:57 |
beuno | we're a few minutes from starting | 23:57 |
* dscassel settles in. | 23:58 | |
beuno | so we're just missing tenach | 23:59 |
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