[02:27] <snail> chilts: looking at it, the biggest obstacle to me using the go language is lack of an XML toolchain
[02:28] <ojwb> ooh, that sounds like a nice feature!
[02:30] <ibeardslee> why do people need something other than perl?
[02:32] <ojwb> envy?
[02:33] <ajmitch> the ability to read the source in 6 months time?
[02:33] <ojwb> if people only used perl, I'd only get to leave the house once a month
[02:33] <ajmitch> for the monthly perl UG meeting? :)
[02:34] <chilts> ibeardslee: because Go and NodeJS and other things let you think in different ways :)
[02:34] <ojwb> yeah
[02:34] <chilts> snail: yeah, good call ... I guess one may come along at some stage :)
[02:34] <ojwb> ajmitch: really one can write impenetrable code in any language - perl just offers more assistance then some
[02:34] <chilts> I wanted to try Erlang a few years ago but didn't ... NodeJS and Go are my new pet languages :D
[02:34]  * ajmitch has seen some hairy python code
[02:35] <chilts> well, moreso Go 'coz I kinda know JavaScript already
[02:35] <chilts> heh, "offers more assistance" :)
[02:35] <ajmitch> it's like giving you more rope to hang yourself with
[02:35] <ojwb> exhibit a: http://survex.com/~olly/rheolism.html
[02:36] <ajmitch> so evil it's beautiful
[02:36] <chilts> hmm, meeting time, back later
[02:37]  * ojwb actually managed to save a byte and fix the known bug in the process not long ago
[02:37] <chilts> olly: you wrote that enhanced version?
[02:37] <chilts> heh
[02:37] <ojwb> yeah
[02:37] <chilts> right, I see, you're crazy! :D
[02:37]  * ojwb was peripherally involved in the original too
[02:37] <chilts> and a little funny (though that might be the same thing)
[02:46] <chilts> 10 people on the list now :)
[02:48]  * snail has a itch to write a javascript BBC BASIC V emulator so he can play that game, but decides not to scratch it
[02:50] <snail> scratches https://github.com/stuartyeates/strawperson instead
[03:15] <ojwb> snail: yes, I've had that itch too
[03:16] <ojwb> a few quirks of the BBC BASIC implementation are exploited, which makes it a little trickier
[03:17] <ojwb> like s=s+1 working even when s doesn't previously exist and IF0ELSE to unbranch
[03:52] <snail> ojwb: what you mean is that you have pre-supplied test-cases for your project?
[03:54] <snail> so the government have launched a website (http://www.ict.govt.nz/ ) to launch a strategy which seems to include the 'fewer websites' policy...
[20:01] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:15] <ajmitch> morning
[20:41] <snail> morning
[20:52] <Atamira> morning
[20:56] <ajmitch> is it time to go home yet?
[20:59] <Atamira> soon
[20:59] <Atamira> the day will be over before you realise it
[20:59] <ajmitch> it will if I fall asleep at my desk
[21:01] <ibeardslee> consider wrapping a towel around your head now
[21:02] <ibeardslee> it'll save the key imprints on the forehead later
[21:09] <Atamira> i normally push the kb out of the way so i have nice smooth desk to snooze on
[21:11] <ibeardslee> not pushing yourself hard enough if you have time to do that! ;)
[21:15] <Atamira> lol
[21:15] <thumper> morning
[21:15] <Atamira> i dont want imprints on my fce
[21:15] <Atamira> face
[21:15] <Atamira> and whole lines of blank spaces on whatever im doing
[21:41] <chilts> morning
[21:41]  * chilts waits for Atamira to post 'zzz z z xx  zaskjfha sd              zzzzzzz'
[21:42] <Atamira> LOL
[21:42] <mwhudson> morning
[21:43] <snail> what you need is a videoconference software plugin that detects when you've fallen asleep and mutes the audio/video
[22:51] <hads> Neat just found a bug in nicegear that's never been discovered, searching for "and" or "or" by themselves breaks.
[23:10] <chilts> that's quite interesting
[23:10] <chilts> what about 'and or or'? :)