| sg | hello | 01:30 |
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| === webpigeon is now known as Guest82638 | ||
| MartijnVdS | popey: http://nyantardis.com/ | 04:08 |
| === gary is now known as Gary | ||
| MooDoo | morning all | 06:52 |
| nigelb | Morning! | 06:55 |
| popey | Morning | 06:59 |
| Gary | morning | 07:02 |
| * Gary is still feeling sorry for himself | 07:02 | |
| MooDoo | wassup Gary ? | 07:06 |
| MooDoo | morning popey | 07:06 |
| DJones | Morning all | 07:13 |
| DJones | AlanBell: COngrats on the reapproval, sorry I couldn't join in, but deepest darkest derbyshire doesn't have much in the way of internet or mobile signals | 07:25 |
| smittix | Morning all | 07:28 |
| popey | hi smittix | 07:29 |
| smittix | How goes it? | 07:29 |
| popey | how was the holiday DJones ? | 07:29 |
| popey | smittix: need coffee | 07:29 |
| smittix | heh | 07:29 |
| Gary | MooDoo: morning, things are okay, still in pain tho :'( | 07:30 |
| MooDoo | Gary: feeling poorly. | 07:31 |
| Gary | yeah, came off my bike on sunday, faceplanted the pavement | 07:33 |
| MooDoo | Gary: ouch, done that a few times :S | 07:33 |
| DJones | popey: It was good, nice and relaxing, lots of walking (dog now has legs that are about 2 inches shorter), visiting places, drinking wine/beer/southern comfort etc | 07:33 |
| popey | excellent | 07:34 |
| popey | feeling refreshed? | 07:34 |
| DJones | Knackered :) | 07:34 |
| Gary | MooDoo: I broke my hand too! and have since been feeling rather sorry for myself | 07:34 |
| DJones | 5 mile walks up hills & down dales | 07:35 |
| christel | poor Gary :( | 07:35 |
| MooDoo | Gary: hugs | 07:35 |
| DJones | Gary: Sorry to hear about that, hope the recovery doesn't take too long | 07:35 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 07:53 |
| MooDoo | morning czajkowski *poke* | 07:55 |
| gord | "Just letting you know your bi-monthly candy was just sent from Japan and should be arriving to you in about a week." :D | 07:55 |
| Gary | candy! | 07:56 |
| MooDoo | :D | 07:59 |
| Ng | popey: the Morpeth on Millbank often has canoniclers on a friday | 08:06 |
| Ng | but many of us prefer to scurry home to our burrows ;) | 08:07 |
| popey | :D | 08:07 |
| kirrus | gord: you get candy from Japan? | 08:11 |
| gord | kirrus, yup | 08:14 |
| Myrtti | pocky ♥ | 08:15 |
| kirrus | gord: ordered from a site, or just a friend being friendly? :) | 08:15 |
| gord | from a site, its a club, every other week you get sent new candy | 08:16 |
| gord | for €15 a month | 08:16 |
| HazRPG | morning all \o | 08:18 |
| kirrus | sounds good.. gotta link? ;) | 08:19 |
| gord | um candyjapan.com maybe? something like that? i have no idea | 08:19 |
| MooDoo | http://www.candyjapan.com/ | 08:20 |
| kirrus | woo, thanks :) | 08:20 |
| diplo | morning all | 08:22 |
| diplo | That's the first time in 20 years that I have overslept for work :D | 08:22 |
| MooDoo | diplo: no excuse :D | 08:25 |
| diplo | Nope :( | 08:27 |
| diplo | Luckily on my own at work this week | 08:27 |
| Gary | anyone notice? | 08:27 |
| diplo | Not yet, work remotely from our headoffice in Nottingham | 08:29 |
| diplo | No missed calls, just wasn't on msn/skype | 08:29 |
| diplo | "I forgot to sign in this morning" | 08:30 |
| diplo | :D | 08:30 |
| MooDoo | Nottingham O_o :) | 08:31 |
| MooDoo | Us Nottingham Ubuntu-ers definately need a meet up :D | 08:32 |
| smittix | I concur! | 08:32 |
| diplo | I'm up on my own next month for 2-3 days | 08:32 |
| diplo | Staying in a hotel in the town centre | 08:32 |
| MooDoo | cool, pub night :D | 08:32 |
| diplo | So up for a meet up | 08:32 |
| Howie | I have returned | 08:33 |
| smittix | Moodoo, are you on google, | 08:42 |
| smittix | bah | 08:42 |
| smittix | s/google,/google+ | 08:42 |
| MooDoo | smittix: yup | 08:45 |
| MooDoo | Paul Mellors | 08:46 |
| smittix | Coolio | 08:46 |
| popey | \o/ Google+ | 08:47 |
| popey | I've been playing some games on it recently | 08:47 |
| smittix | Not related to John Mellors by any chance? | 08:47 |
| popey | its nice that they keep game stuff to the game stream | 08:47 |
| smittix | popey: You're already in my Linux Peeps circle | 08:47 |
| popey | heh | 08:47 |
| MooDoo | smittix: no :) and i've added you :D | 08:47 |
| MooDoo | smittix: John? Johnathan? | 08:48 |
| MooDoo | i have an uncle Johnathan | 08:48 |
| smittix | How old roughly? | 08:48 |
| smittix | The John I know is 27ish | 08:49 |
| MooDoo | nah not the one, he's my uncle and i'm 40 :D | 08:49 |
| MooDoo | well 39 :) | 08:49 |
| smittix | ahh heh | 08:49 |
| * Howie is still.here | 08:52 | |
| MooDoo | i'll contact you guys in a couple of weeks about a beer, still waiting for the new nipper to drop. | 08:52 |
| Howie | help ubuntu has got stuck on a 30 second loop, and its driving me up the wall | 08:57 |
| Howie | any ideas | 08:59 |
| popey | not with that level of detail, no | 08:59 |
| Howie | I cant see any open aplocations and the pc is stuck.on stand by | 08:59 |
| Howie | and I cant stop it or get the pc off stand by | 09:00 |
| bigcalm | Do you have sshd running on the machine? | 09:01 |
| Howie | in English please | 09:01 |
| bigcalm | That'll be a no then | 09:01 |
| MooDoo | Howie: the ssh deamon, the program that allows you to SSH into your box | 09:02 |
| Howie | I have no idea what that is anyway | 09:02 |
| Howie | right | 09:02 |
| bigcalm | I have SSHd running on all of my linux machines, so that if they freeze, I can connect from another machine and kill whatever is causing the freeze | 09:02 |
| popey | Howie: have you tried turning it off and on again? | 09:02 |
| bigcalm | IT Crowd to the rescue | 09:02 |
| Howie | popey it wont turn off | 09:03 |
| bigcalm | Pull the power cable out | 09:03 |
| bigcalm | Or remove the battery | 09:03 |
| MooDoo | Howie: press and hold the power button for 15 seconds | 09:03 |
| MooDoo | it should then power off | 09:03 |
| bigcalm | Yes, what MooDoo says | 09:03 |
| Howie | it beeps twice and continues to run | 09:04 |
| popey | pull the power out | 09:04 |
| bigcalm | If it still runs after that, you have bigger problems | 09:04 |
| MooDoo | bigcalm: and i want to know his secret as it's running with no power :D | 09:05 |
| bigcalm | :) | 09:05 |
| Howie | wth battery backup mode active just appeared on screen for a few seconds and then it contonues being annoying | 09:05 |
| bigcalm | Reminds me of one of the few x-files eps. I can remember: Ghost in the Machine | 09:05 |
| popey | Howie: take your trolling elsewhere | 09:06 |
| MooDoo | Howie: just remove all power to the machine...that will sort it..... | 09:06 |
| popey | I believe howie to be wasting our time here. | 09:07 |
| Howie | popey its not trolling its me forgetting that I put a backup battery in iy | 09:07 |
| popey | bullshit | 09:07 |
| MooDoo | Howie: that won't effect anything | 09:07 |
| MooDoo | popey: i think that was a little harsh :S | 09:07 |
| christel | FIST OF DOOM | 09:07 |
| MooDoo | imho | 09:07 |
| popey | heh | 09:07 |
| popey | MooDoo: feel free to go back over the last year of crap we've had from him and undo that | 09:08 |
| popey | then come back to me and tell me it was harsh | 09:08 |
| MooDoo | popey: ah ok | 09:08 |
| * MooDoo stands corrected | 09:08 | |
| * MooDoo wonders if it's pushing it a little too far if i mention language ;) | 09:09 | |
| popey | yes, it is | 09:09 |
| bigcalm | Oh, it's him | 09:11 |
| popey | indeed | 09:12 |
| bigcalm | And now, for something completely different: http://eddirt.frozenreality.co.uk/index.php?id=783 | 09:12 |
| popey | haha | 09:13 |
| bigcalm | I want me a kitten | 09:13 |
| smittix | That sums my cat up | 09:13 |
| AlanBell | MooDoo: name a pub in nottingham | 09:15 |
| popey | "The MooDoo Arms" | 09:15 |
| bigcalm | I name this pub... | 09:15 |
| bigcalm | Just don't break the bottle | 09:16 |
| diplo | I do like the pubs in Nottingham, and the people seem quite nice as well | 09:17 |
| czajkowski | hmm | 09:18 |
| czajkowski | I tried to add a pin to where we are on the UK map the other day | 09:18 |
| czajkowski | I think I failed | 09:18 |
| czajkowski | :/ | 09:18 |
| czajkowski | feck | 09:19 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: did it tell you that you already had said that? | 09:19 |
| MooDoo | AlanBell: the trip to jerusalem? the bell in, the salutation inn | 09:19 |
| AlanBell | MooDoo: pick one | 09:19 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: no I couldnt move the pin to anywhere other than "London" and I was trying to be specific | 09:19 |
| czajkowski | so not sure it saved | 09:19 |
| smittix | diplo: Except for the rioting scumbags which were in the city center not long ago. | 09:19 |
| MooDoo | AlanBell: salutation | 09:20 |
| diplo | The Bell inn is our usual I believe, that just down / opposite a tescos/mcd's ? | 09:20 |
| diplo | I forgot to ask my work peeps about that smittix, was it that bad ? | 09:20 |
| smittix | diplo: Yeah The Bell is a good pub | 09:20 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: it did save, somewhere | 09:20 |
| bigcalm | Oo, Nottingham is only 1.5hours from here | 09:21 |
| smittix | diplo: Yeah It was worse than the media made it out to be. They didnt report on half the things that happened. | 09:21 |
| czajkowski | hmm ok | 09:21 |
| diplo | smittix, :( | 09:21 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: it saved in Westminster, want it deleted? | 09:21 |
| czajkowski | I am the only person in London | 09:21 |
| czajkowski | I find this hard to believe | 09:21 |
| czajkowski | nah tis cool | 09:21 |
| smittix | diplo: But I have to hand it to Nottinghamshire Police they did a great job. | 09:21 |
| MooDoo | smittix: the only things i heard about was in st anns and mansfield | 09:22 |
| diplo | Nowt happened in my small town, I didn't actually here about it till monday night/tuesday morning | 09:22 |
| smittix | MooDoo: Bulwell, Sneinton, Meadows, Basford, Radford, St Anns. | 09:22 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: can you RT my last tweet :) | 09:22 |
| MooDoo | smittix: where are you living at the mo? | 09:23 |
| smittix | MooDoo: Bulwell, Stanns, Meadows and Oxclose lane police stations were all attacked. | 09:23 |
| smittix | MooDoo: Cinderhill. | 09:23 |
| MooDoo | didn't know oxclose was :S | 09:23 |
| MooDoo | smittix: Calverton here | 09:23 |
| MooDoo | Ubuntu UK Road Trip - Nottingham '11 :D | 09:24 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: thanks | 09:24 |
| popey | :D | 09:24 |
| smittix | MooDoo: Yeah, I remember you saying :). One person from Calverton was arrested. | 09:24 |
| MooDoo | smittix: yay :D lol | 09:25 |
| MooDoo | smittix: don't know the name do you? | 09:25 |
| smittix | I will have a look | 09:25 |
| MooDoo | s'ok i got it | 09:26 |
| MooDoo | *sigh* | 09:27 |
| diplo | Rain is horrible :( | 09:28 |
| bigcalm | I quite like the rain | 09:28 |
| diplo | Want to go home put heating on and watch a movie, not really making me want to stay at work | 09:28 |
| bigcalm | Expect when it causes flooding and I lose my car to it in 2007 | 09:29 |
| gord | why must every program have a different key combination for re-do :( | 09:29 |
| * MooDoo started encoding his movies last night, shame all i've got is a laptop 2.5 hours to encode a movie :S | 09:29 | |
| gord | we all decided on undo! | 09:29 |
| popey | gord: you should try SAP one day | 09:29 |
| gord | oh really? | 09:29 |
| popey | they have different function key combinations within the application on different screens | 09:29 |
| gord | ha nice | 09:29 |
| popey | refresh might be F5, F8, or perhaps Shift F2 | 09:30 |
| bigcalm | Fun | 09:30 |
| popey | yeah | 09:30 |
| AlanBell | right, more people tell me about pubs where they live, postcode and name please | 09:30 |
| * popey pokes AlanBell DJones and whoever else with -irc | 09:31 | |
| DJones | ok | 09:31 |
| bigcalm | Humm? | 09:32 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: the LUG in my county meets here: http://shropshirelug.wordpress.com/meetings/ | 09:33 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: not the biggest pub, but they do have an upstairs room the LUG gets to use | 09:34 |
| czajkowski | http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/07/05/free-official-ubuntu-book-for-approved-loco-teams/ for offical locoteams | 09:34 |
| MooDoo | :) | 09:35 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: applied for it when that was posted (deadline was monday) | 09:36 |
| MooDoo | I have the one for 10.04 LTS if any one is interested in borrowing it :D | 09:37 |
| gord | heh, neat. found my suse thing :) http://ubuntuone.com/p/1BCk/ | 09:37 |
| gord | *puts it next to the wookie that guards his computer from viruses* | 09:37 |
| popey | hehe, i have one of them | 09:38 |
| popey | it's in Sams bed | 09:38 |
| MooDoo | gord: not seen mine in years :) | 09:38 |
| gord | mine was behind the coffee in the kitchen cabinet - smells like coffee now :) | 09:38 |
| gord | oh right yes, i took a photo on my phone *watches u1 notify-osd spam me on all my computers* | 09:39 |
| smittix | I want one of those Tux Droids | 09:40 |
| AlanBell | http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/ | 09:41 |
| AlanBell | need moar pubs | 09:41 |
| * popey will tweet this. | 09:41 | |
| AlanBell | then I will mix the order up a bit | 09:41 |
| popey | can you put some text on that page which describes what we plan? | 09:41 |
| gord | the planned route isn't too helpful, just lots of red lines with no progression indicatied | 09:43 |
| diplo | That is some distance to travel AlanBell :D | 09:43 |
| MooDoo | is there a way to add a pub yourself? | 09:43 |
| AlanBell | MooDoo: sure, register on the site and I will bump you up to editor | 09:43 |
| MooDoo | ok thank you | 09:43 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | popey: Have you discovered whether the WP/Apache/PHP issue is still there on a later version of Ubuntu? | 09:47 |
| AlanBell | http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/ | 09:48 |
| bigcalm | Zoomed out, the pin looks as though it's in Wolverhampton. It's Telford if that gives and +/- points :) | 09:49 |
| popey | TheOpenSourcerer: no, all of them run LTS | 09:50 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | ok | 09:50 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | ty | 09:50 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Anyone know how to get schema and data out of MSSQL so it could be imported in MySQL or something more free and useful? | 09:51 |
| smittix | I should be ashamed of myself. Its the first time I have installed 11.10 | 09:52 |
| smittix | Liking the login screen. | 09:52 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | smittix: I'm still on 10.10 currently. Can't bring myself to get all unityfied just yet. | 09:52 |
| directhex | TheOpenSourcerer, don't blame you | 09:53 |
| smittix | TheOpenSourcerer: To be honest I hated unity to start with because it was so different. But now I love it. | 09:53 |
| MooDoo | i was in oneiric, then it crashed to much, so went to 10.04, just upgrated to maverick last night | 09:53 |
| directhex | unity's implementation in natty is really really really really really really really really bugged | 09:53 |
| smittix | I have no problems in Natty at all. | 09:54 |
| DJones | Ouch, on exam results day, the UCAS website has crashed and had to been taken offline | 09:57 |
| MooDoo | ooops | 09:58 |
| kirrus | TheOpenSourcerer: you can upgrade, and still use Gnome2, just on the login screen select 'Ubuntu Classic'. I had to, as Unity kept flipping my workspace orientation, so nothing was where I put it :/ | 10:01 |
| bigcalm | If only they could have predicted when it will be in high demand... | 10:01 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | kirrus: Yeah I can, but why? 10.10 is stable and reliable. I use this for work and don't really have time to get to grips with all the other UI changes right now. | 10:02 |
| kirrus | Newer version of firefox? I tend to upgrade just because I've seen what happens to machines that don't get upgraded, ever. (i.e. they're a pig to get up-to-date, or they just break when you try) | 10:04 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I am running FF6 this morning. | 10:04 |
| bigcalm | Same here (think I was yesterday as well). When will this crazyness end? | 10:05 |
| bigcalm | The guy who does the HTML Validator extension has stopped releasing until the API settles down :( | 10:05 |
| directhex | bigcalm, never, then | 10:06 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I'm not very happy about the Mozilla 6weekly release schedule. As an extension dev (for Thunderbird which is also now on the 6 week cycle) it is a pain in the bottom. | 10:06 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It's just a number! WTF can't they update a minor one rather than a major? | 10:06 |
| gord | the new api they are making is supposed to fix that problem | 10:06 |
| gord | if its just a number why does it matter? | 10:07 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | The way you specify the version an extension relies on major numbers. | 10:08 |
| directhex | install.rdf, isn't it? | 10:08 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Yeah | 10:08 |
| diplo | TheOpenSourcerer, re MSSQL, could use php/perl to extract and put into mysql | 10:09 |
| diplo | I did it at my last job | 10:09 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | <em:minVersion>3.0</em:minVersion> | 10:09 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | <em:maxVersion>6.0.*</em:maxVersion> | 10:09 |
| directhex | who te hell uses toy products like mssql? | 10:10 |
| AlanBell | one of our customers | 10:10 |
| MooDoo | o/ | 10:10 |
| AlanBell | so we are going to put it in a real database | 10:10 |
| AlanBell | but there is a lack of sensible export options from MSSQL | 10:10 |
| directhex | that's not how lock-in works | 10:11 |
| AlanBell | http://www.convert-in.com/mss2sql.htm this looks like it might work | 10:11 |
| diplo | heh, we had quite a few software companies dependant on it, so we let them use it and exported the data to mysql to do with it what we wanted | 10:11 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | There are a few commercial tools. There used to be a MySQL tool but that EOL'd in 2008 | 10:11 |
| diplo | yeah that was the issue I came across TheOpenSourcerer | 10:12 |
| AlanBell | however a free softare mysqldump tool for mssql would be kind of nice | 10:12 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | http://ms2my.sourceforge.net/ | 10:12 |
| diplo | There is AlanBell, you can do CLI with MSSQL | 10:12 |
| diplo | trying to remember commands, has been a while since I had to do it | 10:12 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Last Update 2009-07-17 :-( | 10:13 |
| diplo | Not sure if it's human readable though like mysqldump | 10:13 |
| diplo | Also seems to be http://sqldump.sourceforge.net | 10:14 |
| diplo | lol 2002 | 10:14 |
| diplo | :D | 10:14 |
| diplo | 2005 MSSQL ? | 10:14 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Aa174646 | 10:15 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Can't tell if that handles the schema or not. | 10:16 |
| diplo | yeah looks like what I used | 10:16 |
| diplo | http://blog.simonholywell.com/post/374215441/sql-server-2005-dump-to-sql-statements | 10:17 |
| diplo | My brother is a MSSQL chap, want me to ask how to dump the schema ? | 10:19 |
| kazade | morning all | 10:19 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | That would be kind diplo - thanks. If he has time of course. | 10:20 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | That blog post and the DPW look to be helpful too. Thanks. | 10:21 |
| smittix | Does anyone here have a Vega Tablet? | 10:21 |
| diplo | Will send him a text now, he was always my fall guy when I got stuck with MSSQL, not really my speciality by any means, but I normally get by, but not having to touch it for nearly 2 years doesn't help :) | 10:22 |
| AlanBell | £875 for a linux ODBC driver for MSSQL! | 10:24 |
| AlanBell | http://www.easysoft.com/products/data_access/odbc-sql-server-driver/index.html | 10:24 |
| diplo | Don't need it.. can do it with a pear module | 10:24 |
| jml | hello | 10:25 |
| diplo | http://pear.php.net/package/MDB2_Driver_mssql/redirected | 10:25 |
| diplo | I believe | 10:25 |
| jml | so, after a very long and painful process, I've got cuts, in .ogv, for all the bits of my screencast that I want. | 10:25 |
| jml | now I want to put them together and publish them | 10:25 |
| jml | I basically have no idea how to do this | 10:25 |
| AlanBell | openshot \o/ | 10:25 |
| jml | mencoder doesn't output ogv for me | 10:25 |
| jml | AlanBell: openshot is fail | 10:26 |
| jml | AlanBell: it snips off beginnings and ends of clips | 10:26 |
| jml | AlanBell: at least when I am playing back within openshot | 10:26 |
| AlanBell | hmm, try a test render, I have not seen that problem | 10:27 |
| smittix | Hmm my Google+ Invites arent going down. | 10:33 |
| HazRPG | MartijnVdS: I can't stop playing "Kakkaoi!" song :P | 10:34 |
| smittix | If you listen to this you will not get it out of your head http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bAN7Ts0xBo | 10:34 |
| HazRPG | smittix: heh, man I haven't heard that in years XD | 10:35 |
| diplo | No mine don't either | 10:36 |
| diplo | Don't think they are are really doing it, just a ploy to say it's in "Beta" | 10:36 |
| HazRPG | when me and my friends first heard that song in like 2000, we all went out and were doing the dance constantly | 10:36 |
| smittix | HazRPG: I actually like it. | 10:36 |
| HazRPG | then WoW:BC came out, people all thought we were imitating the Draenei dance | 10:37 |
| MooDoo | morning davmor2 | 10:38 |
| davmor2 | morning MooDoo | 10:39 |
| smittix | HazRPG: haha | 10:39 |
| HazRPG | smittix: yeah I do too, I first heard heard the song in Saudi on the asian Channel V music channel, it use to be a random channel, mainly English songs played - but they're occasionally do music from all across asia (india, china, korea, japan, etc) | 10:40 |
| HazRPG | there was another Punjabi song I really liked back then, but because I can't really remember the lyrics (and since you can't do a google search on an image that's in your head) ... I could never find it | 10:42 |
| smittix | HazRPG: This one makes me laugh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdyC1BrQd6g | 10:44 |
| jml | AlanBell: basically, Openshot's internal playback is very unreliable for me | 10:45 |
| jml | but the output render seems to go ok | 10:46 |
| AlanBell | I think the internal renderer tries to play back realtime even if it can't get the data on screen fast enough | 10:47 |
| === andybleaden_ is now known as andybleaden | ||
| diplo | Anyone else here having issues with Chomium recently since a recent update, seems to just lock up ( go grey ) | 10:48 |
| diplo | Just from a selecting a link | 10:48 |
| HazRPG | smittix: heh that dude looks familiar! | 10:49 |
| directhex | diplo, close all chromium windows. run a ps -ef | grep chromium. you may have a defective chromium flash process | 10:49 |
| HazRPG | smittix: haha no wait, I have heard this song before XD | 10:49 |
| andybleaden | I would love to get an Ubuntu hour up here in Manchester...perhaps one of the wifi friendlier pubs in the city... | 10:50 |
| HazRPG | smittix: it was another song I heard on Channel V | 10:50 |
| diplo | It keeps happening directhex even after reboots since maybe 2 days ago | 10:50 |
| MooDoo | andybleaden: tell AlanBell about a put and get it added to the list :) | 10:52 |
| MooDoo | andybleaden: pub not put :) | 10:53 |
| AlanBell | andybleaden: pick a pub name and postcode | 10:53 |
| andybleaden | does it have to have wifi | 10:54 |
| andybleaden | or just nice beer | 10:54 |
| AlanBell | beer | 10:54 |
| andybleaden | dont rush now! | 10:54 |
| andybleaden | I would go for the marble arch then | 10:54 |
| sally | I nominate the Crown Beeston Nottingham NG9 1FY http://www.everards.co.uk/pubs/crown_inn_173/ | 10:54 |
| MooDoo | sally: FTW! | 10:55 |
| * AlanBell adds that to the list, thanks sally | 10:55 | |
| MooDoo | sally: another nottingham user eh :D | 10:55 |
| andybleaden | Marble Arch 73 Rochdale Road Manchester M4 4HY | 10:55 |
| andybleaden | brew their own beer too! | 10:56 |
| MooDoo | #ubuntu-uk-notts-branch :) | 10:56 |
| andybleaden | http://www.marblebeers.co.uk/ | 10:56 |
| sally | MooDoo :) link? | 10:56 |
| MooDoo | sally: i was just creating a irc channel as a joke :) although i'm in it lol | 10:57 |
| andybleaden | Marble is also easy public transport wise in Manchester and away from the noisy part | 10:57 |
| andybleaden | many others here in GM area? | 10:58 |
| HazRPG | smittix: if you wanna hear something really random... just before saudi arabian channel 2 (they only had 2 local TV channels) was turned on or opened up, this was the song that played, just to let you know they were about to start the first program: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajf6WO4MuSg | 10:58 |
| christel | AlanBell: i nominate the hop blossom | 10:59 |
| diplo | TheOpenSourcerer, my brother is on hols but said ossql is what you want | 11:03 |
| diplo | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa213088%28v=sql.80%29.aspx | 11:03 |
| Laney | wait more notts people? | 11:03 |
| diplo | I remember now that is what I used | 11:03 |
| diplo | o/ - Sorta | 11:03 |
| diplo | I pop up for work every other month or so | 11:03 |
| andybleaden | AlanBell, Marble Arch 73 Rochdale Road Manchester M4 4HY | 11:03 |
| MooDoo | Laney: a few more yeah :) | 11:06 |
| HazRPG | smittix: heh, score managed to find it... was trying to find a song that I head on Channel V on my last holiday to the Philippines. Ironically their influence is Michael Jackson (and you can tell from the style of the music and the dance): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja3T8GdADIs | 11:06 |
| MooDoo | Laney: diplo smittix and sally was here, she's from beeston :D | 11:06 |
| MooDoo | Laney: got her in #ubuntu-uk-nottingham lol :) | 11:07 |
| Laney | heh | 11:07 |
| Laney | i live in beeston too | 11:07 |
| Laney | small world eh | 11:07 |
| MooDoo | Laney: yeah considering i used to live in chilwell :) | 11:07 |
| popey | \o/ subteams | 11:08 |
| directhex | i live in a pineapple under the sea | 11:08 |
| MooDoo | yup #ubuntu-uk-nottingham is alive and well :D | 11:08 |
| MooDoo | *snigger* | 11:08 |
| paddax_ | j lwjgl | 11:09 |
| MooDoo | does that mean AlanBell / popey / czajkowski will have to do uk subteam approvals ;) | 11:09 |
| smittix | HazRPG: Catchy song! | 11:10 |
| smittix | Laney: Cinderhill Here :) | 11:10 |
| HazRPG | smittix: isn't it just! Its korean iirc | 11:10 |
| AlanBell | MooDoo: yes, but I have heard the UK subteam approval board is quite corrupt and open to bribery | 11:11 |
| Laney | arr, good ol' phoenix park | 11:11 |
| MooDoo | AlanBell: i should hope so :) | 11:11 |
| hoover | morning all | 11:12 |
| Laney | MooDoo lives in some strange village out in the sticks | 11:12 |
| hoover | or good afternoon rather | 11:12 |
| * MooDoo would like to have the #ubuntu-uk-nottingham subteam approved....cash on its way to AlanBell :) | 11:12 | |
| MooDoo | Laney: pah! yeah ok your right :D | 11:13 |
| Laney | it's alright, working in the city qualifies you for membership | 11:13 |
| MooDoo | phew :) | 11:13 |
| MooDoo | and not far from the trip either ;) | 11:14 |
| Laney | heart, right? | 11:14 |
| MooDoo | yeah | 11:14 |
| Laney | near the donor centre | 11:14 |
| MooDoo | Laney: are you stalking me ;) | 11:15 |
| Laney | no, i just see it when i go there to donate | 11:15 |
| HazRPG | smittix: I thought I wrote more song titles down in my journal, but seems not! Must have had them down on a piece of paper or something and lost them | 11:15 |
| MooDoo | ah cool :) | 11:15 |
| Laney | which I hope you do too :-) | 11:16 |
| MooDoo | Laney: alas no | 11:16 |
| MooDoo | Laney: i carry a medical green card which means i'm not allowed | 11:16 |
| Laney | :( | 11:16 |
| MooDoo | Laney: which does annoy me seeing as i work next door lol | 11:17 |
| gord | Android fans! is there any way i can block text numbers? | 11:17 |
| directhex | i can't donate | 11:17 |
| directhex | they get tetchy when you pass out from just being in te building | 11:18 |
| MooDoo | gord: there is if you're using cyanogen, i'm not sure it blocks texts though | 11:18 |
| Laney | I have a pretty cool hole pattern on my inside elbow from donating | 11:18 |
| czajkowski | kazade: did you get your mac issue resolved? | 11:20 |
| HazRPG | smittix: haha, this one's random too... more korean stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ (song doesn't start until 0:20 or so) | 11:20 |
| HazRPG | I'll leave it at that, otherwise I'll just spend all day on youtube lol | 11:20 |
| gord | MooDoo, using stock :) | 11:20 |
| MooDoo | ok | 11:20 |
| gord | getting spamvertisements about my "accident" | 11:21 |
| gord | are they talking about when i tripped over my cat? i don't want to sue my cat | 11:21 |
| MooDoo | well if any nottingham users have anything they want to say and don't want to spam this main channel the other one has a guard on it now.....i can delete it any time :D | 11:27 |
| Myrtti | popey ♥ | 11:34 |
| DJones | gord: If your phone company don't offer teh facility to block certain numbers from sending texts, this may help https://market.android.com/details?id=org.baole.app.antismsspam&feature=search_result | 11:36 |
| dutchie | quick question: usb wireless adapters: likely to Just Work with 11.04 or not? | 11:36 |
| gord | DJones, neat, thanks | 11:37 |
| kazade | czajkowski: nah, but I found a bug report somewhere. Basically I can tap to click, but clicking the actual button confuses Ubuntu (it thinks I'm multitouching) | 11:46 |
| czajkowski | :/ | 11:46 |
| kazade | it's not a big deal - I fixed a shedload of other weird quirks... | 11:46 |
| czajkowski | ah ok | 11:46 |
| kazade | my biggest annoyance is the Nvidia drivers - which suck | 11:46 |
| czajkowski | indeed | 11:47 |
| kazade | I can't hot plug my external monitor because Nvidia *STILL* don't support xrandr - which everyone else has been supporting for ages | 11:47 |
| directhex | you can hot plug it via nvidia-settings though | 11:47 |
| kazade | you mean, opening the nvidia settings window and enabling it? | 11:47 |
| gord | kazade, not tried nouvou or however its spelt? | 11:47 |
| kazade | Nouveau works like a dream... | 11:48 |
| kazade | but freezes about once an hour - forcing a hard reset | 11:48 |
| directhex | kazade, right. nvidia-settings can enable/disable monitors without restarting x | 11:48 |
| kazade | directhex: true, but, I have my external monitor set as my primary, guess what happens if I unplug it? | 11:48 |
| kazade | I lose the side of my desktop with gnome shell on it | 11:48 |
| directhex | joyfun | 11:48 |
| kazade | indeed | 11:48 |
| kazade | nouveau works awesomely in that regard - but it freezes :( | 11:49 |
| Gary | hey Matt | 12:03 |
| AlanBell | hi Gary | 12:07 |
| AlanBell | Gary: do you have an irssi command to alias /20 to /window 20 for all numbers at once? | 12:08 |
| Gary | erm, yes, somewhow | 12:08 |
| Gary | window_switcher.pl is what I use | 12:11 |
| Gary | http://scripts.irssi.org/html/window_switcher.pl.html | 12:11 |
| AlanBell | ok, nice, but not quite what I was after | 12:13 |
| Gary | I think thats what I use | 12:13 |
| Gary | I just do a /23 to go to window 23 | 12:14 |
| popey | i just have a giant list of aliases | 12:16 |
| gord | i just stopped using irssi once i got over 20 windows ;) | 12:17 |
| * Laney has a window list | 12:18 | |
| popey | ditto | 12:18 |
| Laney | >> (e=13|#ubuntu-uk r=14|&bitlbee t=15|#ub~eeting y=16|#debi~evel et cetera | 12:18 |
| popey | http://popey.com/~alan/irssi.png | 12:19 |
| Laney | http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/irssi.png | 12:22 |
| Laney | ancient (phorm reference!) but it's pretty much like that still | 12:22 |
| * MooDoo feels left out that he only has 9 irssi windows | 12:31 | |
| dwatkins | I try to keep mine down to 15 or so | 12:31 |
| Myrtti | I just remember them by number... | 12:33 |
| popey | Laney: I couldn't copye with the abbreviations :D | 12:34 |
| Laney | i kind of got used to them | 12:34 |
| Laney | muscle memory tells me where most of the important channels are | 12:34 |
| Myrtti | ^ | 12:35 |
| popey | heh | 12:35 |
| mfraz74 | I'm trying to follow the tutorial at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/packaging-from-scratch.html, but I'm getting stuck at the "make" stage | 12:36 |
| AlanBell | hi mfraz74 | 12:37 |
| mfraz74 | hi AlanBell | 12:37 |
| mfraz74 | paste.ubuntu.com/669191 | 12:37 |
| mfraz74 | any ideas? | 12:38 |
| AlanBell | not really, but that looks more like "doesn't compile" than it "doesn't package" | 12:41 |
| AlanBell | did you write the code? | 12:41 |
| mfraz74 | no, i was following the tutorial I iposted, cmake worked and then I tried make which failed | 12:42 |
| AlanBell | oh, right | 12:45 |
| AlanBell | did you install libqrencode-dev libzbar-dev libzbarqt-dev | 12:46 |
| gord | heh neat, my little experiment with only passively cooling this atom machine worked out well, cpu is at 20 degrees after a day of running :) | 12:46 |
| mfraz74 | AlanBell: yes, they are all installed | 12:46 |
| MooDoo | Laney: you on google+ | 12:47 |
| Laney | yes | 12:47 |
| AlanBell | mfraz74: what version of Ubuntu are you using? | 12:48 |
| popey | jml: just watched your video, so does this mean Launchpad now accepts binary-only packages in ppas? I thought it only accepted open source packages that build on launchpad farm? | 12:48 |
| jussi | popey: DAMN!!! that media player looks amazing for the price | 12:48 |
| popey | yeah | 12:49 |
| mfraz74 | AlanBell: kubuntu 11.04 | 12:49 |
| jussi | popey: I might have to get you to order and send it to me - seems ebuyer doesnt do overseas | 12:51 |
| jml | popey: terms of service are still the same: you can use PPAs for free only if you're uploading open source stuff | 12:51 |
| jml | popey: we use PPAs as the mechanism to distribute commercial games etc in the software center | 12:51 |
| popey | so that demo wouldn't work for me? | 12:52 |
| popey | if I got pkgme and tried to upload a blob? | 12:52 |
| * nigelb notes popey should have been there at jml's Q & A. :) | 12:52 | |
| * popey notes he didnt know there was a Q & A. | 12:52 | |
| jml | popey: it would, (although see the follow-up blog post http://code.mumak.net/2011/08/how-dependency-guessing-works.html) ... but you'd be violating the Launchpad terms of service, and we'd take it down when we found out about it. | 12:52 |
| smittix | Any nottingham users I can add to my NottsLinux Circle on google+? | 12:52 |
| nigelb | popey: I wish there was more pbulicity planned. | 12:53 |
| popey | jml: so at some point of time in the future when developer.u.c is working and pkgme is done, I could somehow register for a special ppa which lets me upload blobs, and do effectively what you did? | 12:54 |
| jml | popey: LP is a libre code base providing a gratis service for libre apps, and a paid service for proprietary apps | 12:54 |
| jml | popey: yes, pretty much. | 12:54 |
| popey | of course, yes | 12:54 |
| popey | I forgot about the pay-for service | 12:55 |
| popey | does the pay-for service come at an apple-like XX$/yr or is it %age of revenue or a mix of both? | 12:55 |
| jml | there are some interesting things that come out of this, though | 12:55 |
| popey | or is that not known yet? | 12:55 |
| jml | popey: umm... it is known, but I don't actually know off the top of my head | 12:55 |
| popey | is it public info? | 12:56 |
| AlanBell | mfraz74: I would suggest trying some other random app | 12:56 |
| popey | or commercially sensitive canonical info? | 12:57 |
| jml | I don't know :\ | 12:57 |
| popey | (I am not trying to trip you up, just wondering) | 12:57 |
| mfraz74 | AlanBell: OK, I'm trying to build akonadi-facebook now | 12:57 |
| jml | I'm looking for a public source | 12:57 |
| AlanBell | not sure who is responsible for developer.ubuntu.com but there shouldn't be tutorials there which don't work | 12:57 |
| jml | popey: fwiw, you can submit binary blobs now, it's just that someone at Canonical will package them manually for you. | 12:58 |
| jml | or you can package them yourself, as rickspencer3 did w/ photobomb | 12:59 |
| popey | AlanBell: previews of upcoming functionality are good though | 12:59 |
| jml | popey: I can only find internal information, so I'm going to assume it's company-confidential for now. Sorry. | 13:00 |
| popey | ok, no worries | 13:00 |
| popey | if/when I get to that point, I'll ask :D | 13:00 |
| jml | :) | 13:00 |
| jml | to me, there's interesting stuff that comes out of this | 13:00 |
| popey | totally | 13:01 |
| jml | making it easy for commercial apps to get into the software center for stable ubuntu releases is great | 13:01 |
| jml | but, imo, it's got to be as easy for free apps | 13:01 |
| popey | http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/commercial/ lol | 13:01 |
| jml | yeah :) | 13:01 |
| popey | we (podcast) should talk to someone about this in an interview | 13:01 |
| popey | who would be the best person to talk to? | 13:01 |
| * popey glares at jml | 13:02 | |
| jml | http://developer.ubuntu.com/myapps-packages/ is the only other thing I can think of | 13:02 |
| MartijnVdS | wow, mono is shiny in oneiric today | 13:02 |
| jml | popey: me, rickspencer3, maybe Steve George. | 13:02 |
| popey | shall I mail all three? | 13:03 |
| popey | or do you want to sort it out amongst yourselves :D | 13:03 |
| jml | popey: email me & I can do the internal shuffling :) | 13:04 |
| popey | will do | 13:04 |
| jml | popey: also, the transcript from my https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WeeklyQandA might be worth reading. | 13:04 |
| popey | thanks | 13:04 |
| popey | your first name at ubuntu dot com? | 13:04 |
| jml | popey: no, that's riddell. :) I'm not an Ubuntu member. | 13:06 |
| jml | popey: my nick at canonical. | 13:07 |
| popey | ah, doh :D | 13:07 |
| daubers | urgh, it's a touch wet outside | 13:07 |
| HazRPG | and off we go on the android sdk wacky install races! | 13:07 |
| HazRPG | daubers: hurray for UK weather \o/ | 13:07 |
| HazRPG | hmm, interesting, java 7 just recently got released | 13:08 |
| daubers | HazRPG: it breaks bits of apache | 13:10 |
| popey | \o/ Java 1.4.2 | 13:11 |
| HazRPG | does it? How so? | 13:11 |
| daubers | HazRPG: http://www.developerfusion.com/news/123346/java-7-breaks-apache-projects/ | 13:11 |
| * hoover just wrote his first greasemonkey script, yay ;-) | 13:14 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It is *really* raining here. | 13:29 |
| MooDoo | lets hope it stays there then :) | 13:30 |
| popey | oh look, bug 754505 | 13:31 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 754505 in Ubuntu Developer Portal "Populate http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/commercial/ with revenue share details" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/754505 | 13:31 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Bloody hell - rain getting heavier | 13:33 |
| daubers | Today I mostly wish to scream | 13:41 |
| bigcalm | Sun is shining here | 13:42 |
| bigcalm | This is despite the forecast of heavy rain all day | 13:42 |
| daubers | bigcalm: It'll be back | 13:43 |
| daubers | and there it is :) | 13:48 |
| * daubers needs spotify suggestions | 13:51 | |
| bigcalm | What's your mood? | 13:53 |
| christel | http://open.spotify.com/track/1Nukcy7xk7AbS7MtkaiOe3 | 13:54 |
| bigcalm | Bouncy | 14:01 |
| daubers | bigcalm: trying to calm down and not be shouty at really dumb people | 14:05 |
| hoover | cheers all | 14:18 |
| bigcalm | daubers: not this then? http://open.spotify.com/track/3iv0TOFQ0dzLhGY4jSSXt0 | 14:20 |
| daubers | bigcalm: Probably not | 14:21 |
| * bigcalm likes that track a lot | 14:21 | |
| * popey clicks "I have spotify" then "Launch application". Nothing happens | 14:42 | |
| bigcalm | The app launches for me | 14:43 |
| bigcalm | But never opens the track/album | 14:43 |
| bigcalm | I have to copy the http url and change it to a spotify:one | 14:43 |
| bigcalm | That's linux for you, pfft | 14:43 |
| daubers | popey: snap | 14:43 |
| bigcalm | WOOP! | 14:57 |
| bigcalm | New DMSB | 14:57 |
| daubers | DMSB? | 14:57 |
| daubers | Domineeringly miniscule suave brother? | 14:57 |
| bigcalm | Anybody else know? :) | 14:57 |
| DJones | google throws up a few suggestions http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/DMSB The McDonalds sounds the best option :) | 14:59 |
| bigcalm | It's a podcast | 14:59 |
| bigcalm | Hopefully that'll narrow it down | 14:59 |
| bigcalm | David Mitchell's SoapBox | 15:02 |
| popey | ooo | 15:04 |
| * daubers needs caffeine | 15:30 | |
| === christel is now known as jchristel | ||
| MooDoo | fourstone1! | 15:41 |
| MooDoo | ooops | 15:41 |
| MooDoo | lol | 15:41 |
| livingdaylight | anyone play with the weather screenlet? Seems set to Korea by default and don't see how to change it. In properties there is a zip code dialog, but enterming my postcode returns an error | 15:43 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Jo Shields] Why we mustnt allow smartphones to become a 2 or 3 horse race - http://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/391/ | 16:02 |
| * daubers prods ldap with a stick and runs | 16:19 | |
| * MartijnVdS watches LDAP rise up and eat daubers | 16:20 | |
| daubers | MartijnVdS: Thats what normally happens when I poke it | 16:24 |
| bigcalm | ¬.¬ | 16:28 |
| jchristel | i say | 16:29 |
| bigcalm | I wonder if he's being attacked | 16:29 |
| bigcalm | Providing services leaves one open for abuse from unhappy people | 16:30 |
| gord | being attacked doesn't cause you to excess flood surely | 16:30 |
| bigcalm | That's what I thought, but I'm trying to think back to my ircnet days | 16:30 |
| bigcalm | I recall a silly attack where you send a butt load of messages to a user and their quit message was usually Excess Flood, rather than Ping Timeout | 16:31 |
| bigcalm | This was late 90s though | 16:32 |
| Lcawte | Hmm, wonder if the nvidia-96 driver has been updated yet | 16:32 |
| popey | er | 16:35 |
| Myrtti | tsktsk | 16:42 |
| Myrtti | looks like it's stable now | 16:46 |
| bigcalm | Is there a block select in Eclipse? | 16:50 |
| andypiper | I thought so | 16:53 |
| * andypiper tries to remember how to invoke | 16:53 | |
| andypiper | alt+shift+a toggle? | 16:54 |
| bigcalm | Turns out it was quicker to do it by hand than to find the key combo | 16:54 |
| andypiper | lol | 16:54 |
| andypiper | soz | 16:54 |
| bigcalm | No worries ;) | 16:54 |
| bigcalm | But, it's good to have for future needs, thanks :) | 16:55 |
| andypiper | i think that's it, might be editor-specific though | 16:55 |
| bigcalm | alt+shift+a worked for me | 16:56 |
| === Azelphur_ is now known as Azelphur | ||
| Myrtti | Azelphur: connection problems? or trying a new silly IRC client? | 16:58 |
| popey | bah! | 17:04 |
| hamitron | indeed | 17:08 |
| hamitron | what would make a chroot jail running bash, close? | 17:09 |
| MartijnVdS | hamitron: schroot? | 17:09 |
| MartijnVdS | uhr ait | 17:09 |
| MartijnVdS | wait | 17:09 |
| MartijnVdS | hamitron: anything that kills that bash process | 17:10 |
| hamitron | I was supposed to be compiling stuff and installing in a chroot jail | 17:10 |
| hamitron | and now I notice I have no jail | 17:10 |
| hamitron | \o/ | 17:10 |
| MartijnVdS | If I have to manage chroots, I use schroot | 17:10 |
| MartijnVdS | it's ++ | 17:10 |
| hamitron | k :) | 17:10 |
| MartijnVdS | hamitron: Debian (and Ubuntu)'s default bashrc has a cool feature for it | 17:11 |
| MartijnVdS | it shows a marker in your prompt if you are in a schroot-chroot | 17:11 |
| hamitron | I think I probably used none defaults | 17:12 |
| hamitron | as lfs instructions say | 17:12 |
| hamitron | ;) | 17:12 |
| dwatkins | My prompt has a smiley to reflect success or failure of a command. | 17:32 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: cool :) | 17:33 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: how do you do that? | 17:34 |
| ging | i want a smilie prompt | 17:37 |
| judgey | omg omg omg i had some nightmears :( | 17:52 |
| MartijnVdS | and it's not even night! | 17:53 |
| judgey | tell me about it lol | 17:54 |
| judgey | anyhow i was in here lastnight, i got a line of code and now i dont know it, i just installed lamp again and phpmyadmin but there was a line of code to make phpmyadmin to work. | 17:55 |
| MartijnVdS | judgey: isn't it on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin ? | 17:55 |
| judgey | thanks MartijnVdS ;) | 17:58 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ | 18:00 |
| judgey | reinstalling again plz plz be last time | 18:15 |
| popey | AlanBell: http://twitter.com/#!/JohnPinner/status/104226443424309248 | 18:21 |
| popey | AlanBell: http://twitter.com/#!/rmounce/status/104224474227945472 | 18:21 |
| popey | AlanBell: http://twitter.com/#!/davmor2/status/104257753823969280 | 18:32 |
| popey | :D | 18:32 |
| davmor2 | popey: what's with the LOL on that one serious options :P | 18:33 |
| davmor2 | popey: oh you down to like 5 meg then | 18:35 |
| Myrtti | awww, poor popey :-( | 18:41 |
| MartijnVdS | The UK has bandwidth caps on wired connections? | 18:49 |
| MartijnVdS | How 1990s ;) | 18:49 |
| dwatkins | If you pay enough they give you so-called unlimited bandwidth. | 18:50 |
| dwatkins | Not all ISPs cap in this way, however. | 18:50 |
| MartijnVdS | We only have it on mobile internet connections here | 18:52 |
| MartijnVdS | Those used to be "unlimited" but now you get them in 100MB increments for way too much money :( | 18:52 |
| judgey | can a website run from this path? | 19:09 |
| judgey | .../home/host2k10/public_html | 19:10 |
| judgey | i though tit had to be www. | 19:10 |
| judgey | it | 19:10 |
| judgey | just playing with somthign and it installed it there | 19:11 |
| judgey | seems it dose | 19:16 |
| daubers | Evening | 19:21 |
| ikonia | directhex: ping | 19:36 |
| directhex | ikonia, i don't wanna hear it -__ | 19:37 |
| directhex | -_- | 19:37 |
| ikonia | I've still not heard it | 19:37 |
| ikonia | you are breaking it to me, I've just sent a text to a collegue | 19:37 |
| directhex | i informed my colleagues too. we're contractors working on touchpad! | 19:38 |
| ikonia | I sat in a meeting on Friday of last week with the product manager | 19:38 |
| ikonia | nothing was hinted at at all | 19:38 |
| mgdm | directhex: eek :/ | 19:38 |
| ikonia | stern faced he said "all on track" | 19:38 |
| ikonia | directhex: I'm sorry | 19:39 |
| ikonia | tomorrow will be interesting for me now | 19:39 |
| directhex | ikonia, my pre3 shipped from the palm webstore 30 minutes ago! >_< | 19:40 |
| ikonia | whoaaaa | 19:40 |
| ikonia | now that stings | 19:40 |
| andylockran | hey guys | 19:41 |
| bigcalm | Hola | 19:42 |
| andylockran | I could do with some advice, I want to parse a html file using python | 19:43 |
| dutchie | beautifulsoup | 19:43 |
| ali1234 | dont use regexps | 19:43 |
| andylockran | i.e. the page is a 'structured' report | 19:43 |
| andylockran | I'm having issues with BeautifulSoup printing chinese :) | 19:43 |
| ali1234 | set the encoding on your strings | 19:46 |
| andylockran | ali1234: how to do? | 19:47 |
| andylockran | I'll dpaste my code | 19:47 |
| ali1234 | print mystring.encode('utf8') | 19:48 |
| andylockran | http://paste.debian.net/126651/ | 19:48 |
| ali1234 | don't forget to paste the error message as well | 19:48 |
| andylockran | ali1234: | 19:49 |
| andylockran | I don't get an error message | 19:49 |
| andylockran | if I uncomment the prettify command | 19:50 |
| ali1234 | s is an object | 19:50 |
| ali1234 | use the methods | 19:50 |
| andylockran | ok | 19:53 |
| andylockran | http://pastebin.com/Gxmjq5dt | 19:54 |
| andylockran | ali1234: can you explain why that works, and mine doesn't? | 19:54 |
| ali1234 | not unless you show me the dods.html | 19:55 |
| ali1234 | and the way you invoke the script | 19:55 |
| ali1234 | if you don't get an error message, how do you know it doesn't work? | 19:56 |
| andylockran | ali1234: it prints a load of unicode stuff | 19:56 |
| ali1234 | why is that wrong? | 19:56 |
| andylockran | dunno | 19:58 |
| andylockran | i expected 'prettify' to print it out indented like that example I pasted showed it | 19:58 |
| ali1234 | and what does it print instead? | 20:00 |
| andylockran | loads of lines of \xe0\xa0....etc | 20:01 |
| andylockran | http://dpaste.com/597597/ | 20:02 |
| andylockran | thats the tail of the output | 20:02 |
| ali1234 | that's not unicode | 20:03 |
| ali1234 | how do you invoke the script? | 20:03 |
| ali1234 | i suspect your html file is gzipped or something | 20:07 |
| andylockran | it looks normal enough to me | 20:09 |
| mgdm | that's not necessarily unicode | 20:09 |
| mgdm | just looks like the script is outputing hex values instead of the actual chars | 20:09 |
| mgdm | could be fixed with a one-liner in PHP, or some such | 20:09 |
| mgdm | andylockran: you get PM? | 20:13 |
| mgdm | ali1234: it is Unicode, just UTF-16LE | 20:16 |
| ali1234 | this is why i asked how the script was invoked | 20:17 |
| ali1234 | the only way this can happen in python is if it totally failed to understand the encoding of the input file | 20:18 |
| mgdm | I think it has a broken BOM at the start of it | 20:18 |
| mgdm | there's certainly something iconv can't understand, then a broken MS Office header thing | 20:18 |
| bernhard2 | cant seem to enable tls on exim4 anybody want to shed some light on my issues ? | 20:39 |
| popey | directhex: any regrets? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/18/hp_kills_webos_tablets_and_phones/ | 20:43 |
| directhex | popey, a deep sadness, but it's the company's money that went on the pre3, not mine | 20:45 |
| popey | it's bonkers | 20:45 |
| directhex | i can fire up a new contract on some android bullshit whenever i like | 20:45 |
| popey | utter madness | 20:45 |
| ali1234 | http://dilbert.com/fast/2011-08-16/ | 20:47 |
| ali1234 | popey: http://www.gizmag.com/popemobile-auction/19440/ | 21:05 |
| popey | I get that a lot | 21:06 |
| ali1234 | heh | 21:06 |
| Azelphur | popey: you get throttled for 40GB/day? | 21:25 |
| AlanBell | popey: a new version of openERP was released today as well | 21:26 |
| * bigcalm wishes his could understand his client's requirements | 21:26 | |
| bigcalm | Sod it, time for some MC | 21:26 |
| * Azelphur did 600GB last month :D | 21:26 | |
| Azelphur | did like 38GB in one day got no complaints | 21:26 |
| ali1234 | you don't get a warning on VM, it's a secret cap | 21:27 |
| AlanBell | 28MB for the server and 1.1MB for the client | 21:27 |
| Azelphur | secret cap ftw | 21:27 |
| ali1234 | throttling only lasts 1 day anyway | 21:27 |
| ali1234 | well, that's how it worked when it was called NTL anyway | 21:27 |
| ali1234 | i haven't used them since then | 21:28 |
| Azelphur | This is why I like Sky, they have no caps or throttling that I know about | 21:28 |
| Azelphur | and I hit it pretty heavily. | 21:29 |
| mgdm | popey: did I see you say that Apache had OOMed again? | 21:31 |
| Azelphur | I pay for 24mbit and actually get around 12mbit, I average 20GB/day and I've seen no throttling/letters/... from sky :D | 21:33 |
| Azelphur | so they seem to live up to their "really no FUP" advertising | 21:33 |
| Laney | that's a lot of linux isos | 21:33 |
| Azelphur | indeed, lots of Linux isos :p | 21:33 |
| Laney | maybe some creative commons licensed music in there too? | 21:33 |
| Azelphur | sure, and movies | 21:33 |
| ali1234 | oneiric had 200mb of updates today | 21:33 |
| Azelphur | have you seen the yes men, it's awesome :D | 21:34 |
| ali1234 | and 300mb the day before | 21:34 |
| ali1234 | i don't even use it | 21:34 |
| ali1234 | i only keep it updated so that i can test my bugs | 21:34 |
| ali1234 | over and over and over again | 21:35 |
| ali1234 | yes, this bug has not been fixed | 21:35 |
| ali1234 | yes, my system is up to date | 21:35 |
| andylockran | ali1234: I got quite a big further with BeautifulSoup :) | 21:44 |
| andylockran | I've been able to parse a few tags, | 21:44 |
| andylockran | Thanks for your help | 21:44 |
| andylockran | http://paste.debian.net/126667/ | 21:45 |
| dlssss | hi | 21:48 |
| dlssss | libnet-akamai-perl This package provides a perl module to interact with Akamai CCUAPI to handle multiple purge requests. ne ideas what this is | 21:49 |
| dlssss | on software centre | 21:49 |
| mgdm | You very probably don't need it | 21:49 |
| mgdm | Akamai are a content-delivery network - effectively a very large caching system for websites - that package lets you tell them to clear things from their cache | 21:50 |
| dlssss | right | 21:50 |
| dlssss | the thing is.. | 21:50 |
| dlssss | when i open firefox in gnome and check firestarter log, alot of ips open up with dns of akamaitechnologies | 21:51 |
| mgdm | Yup | 21:51 |
| dlssss | is this normal | 21:51 |
| mgdm | lots of websites use Akamai to handle their images | 21:51 |
| dlssss | so even just on google search homepage its usual to have a few ips pointing to akamai | 21:51 |
| mgdm | You'll see a lot of "llnw.net", too - that's Limelight, who do similar things | 21:52 |
| mgdm | it wouldn't surprise me | 21:52 |
| dlssss | is saw something like -in-f101e or something like that | 21:52 |
| dlssss | as dns | 21:52 |
| mgdm | they have thousands of machines, so they have funny names | 21:52 |
| dlssss | ah ok then thanks | 21:52 |
| === bbs is now known as jmprince80 | ||
| dlssss | one of their dns is on a blacklist sight | 21:53 |
| dlssss | so panicked | 21:53 |
| dlssss | i know a few things but alot i dont so thanks for help | 21:53 |
| mgdm | it's probably that they ended up, by accident, storing some content that was 'bad' | 21:53 |
| dlssss | ok ta for that then | 21:53 |
| mgdm | but if you block Akamai you'll block much of the Web :) | 21:53 |
| mgdm | No bother | 21:54 |
| dlssss | just interesting also to find out these hidden companies that must have alot of power on web | 21:54 |
| dlssss | would never have known. there you go. ta ta :) | 21:54 |
| === bbs is now known as jmprince80 | ||
| sg | anybody about? | 22:38 |
| StevenR | yes? | 22:39 |
| hamitron | about what? | 22:39 |
| hamitron | :) | 22:39 |
| sg | about this channel ^^ | 22:39 |
| sg | this isn't specifically ubuntu-related but this is the only channel i could think of that has a predominantly british userbase | 22:39 |
| sg | basically i'm a soon-to-be american university student, but im curious about studying computer science at durham or another uni in the UK | 22:40 |
| sg | i was wondering what the job prospects look like in the UK after graduation for CS majors, and how it compares to other countries like the US | 22:40 |
| directhex | sg: the job market isn't great right now, anywhere | 22:43 |
| directhex | better for tech people than non-tech people, though | 22:43 |
| sg | directhex: what about starting salaries and the like | 22:48 |
| StevenR | depends massively on the role | 22:48 |
| directhex | sg: depends on what you want to go into. i think good programmers get something in the mid-high 20k range, excluding london, as a reasonable starting point | 22:49 |
| sg | software engineer i suppose | 22:49 |
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