[01:30] hello === webpigeon is now known as Guest82638 [04:08] popey: http://nyantardis.com/ === gary is now known as Gary [06:52] morning all [06:55] Morning! [06:59] Morning [07:02] morning [07:02] * Gary is still feeling sorry for himself [07:06] wassup Gary ? [07:06] morning popey [07:13] Morning all [07:25] AlanBell: COngrats on the reapproval, sorry I couldn't join in, but deepest darkest derbyshire doesn't have much in the way of internet or mobile signals [07:28] Morning all [07:29] hi smittix [07:29] How goes it? [07:29] how was the holiday DJones ? [07:29] smittix: need coffee [07:29] heh [07:30] MooDoo: morning, things are okay, still in pain tho :'( [07:31] Gary: feeling poorly. [07:33] yeah, came off my bike on sunday, faceplanted the pavement [07:33] Gary: ouch, done that a few times :S [07:33] popey: It was good, nice and relaxing, lots of walking (dog now has legs that are about 2 inches shorter), visiting places, drinking wine/beer/southern comfort etc [07:34] excellent [07:34] feeling refreshed? [07:34] Knackered :) [07:34] MooDoo: I broke my hand too! and have since been feeling rather sorry for myself [07:35] 5 mile walks up hills & down dales [07:35] poor Gary :( [07:35] Gary: hugs [07:35] Gary: Sorry to hear about that, hope the recovery doesn't take too long [07:53] aloha [07:55] morning czajkowski *poke* [07:55] "Just letting you know your bi-monthly candy was just sent from Japan and should be arriving to you in about a week." :D [07:56] candy! [07:59] :D [08:06] popey: the Morpeth on Millbank often has canoniclers on a friday [08:07] but many of us prefer to scurry home to our burrows ;) [08:07] :D [08:11] gord: you get candy from Japan? [08:14] kirrus, yup [08:15] pocky ♥ [08:15] gord: ordered from a site, or just a friend being friendly? :) [08:16] from a site, its a club, every other week you get sent new candy [08:16] for €15 a month [08:18] morning all \o [08:19] sounds good.. gotta link? ;) [08:19] um candyjapan.com maybe? something like that? i have no idea [08:20] http://www.candyjapan.com/ [08:20] woo, thanks :) [08:22] morning all [08:22] That's the first time in 20 years that I have overslept for work :D [08:25] diplo: no excuse :D [08:27] Nope :( [08:27] Luckily on my own at work this week [08:27] anyone notice? [08:29] Not yet, work remotely from our headoffice in Nottingham [08:29] No missed calls, just wasn't on msn/skype [08:30] "I forgot to sign in this morning" [08:30] :D [08:31] Nottingham O_o :) [08:32] Us Nottingham Ubuntu-ers definately need a meet up :D [08:32] I concur! [08:32] I'm up on my own next month for 2-3 days [08:32] Staying in a hotel in the town centre [08:32] cool, pub night :D [08:32] So up for a meet up [08:33] I have returned [08:42] Moodoo, are you on google, [08:42] bah [08:42] s/google,/google+ [08:45] smittix: yup [08:46] Paul Mellors [08:46] Coolio [08:47] \o/ Google+ [08:47] I've been playing some games on it recently [08:47] Not related to John Mellors by any chance? [08:47] its nice that they keep game stuff to the game stream [08:47] popey: You're already in my Linux Peeps circle [08:47] heh [08:47] smittix: no :) and i've added you :D [08:48] smittix: John? Johnathan? [08:48] i have an uncle Johnathan [08:48] How old roughly? [08:49] The John I know is 27ish [08:49] nah not the one, he's my uncle and i'm 40 :D [08:49] well 39 :) [08:49] ahh heh [08:52] * Howie is still.here [08:52] i'll contact you guys in a couple of weeks about a beer, still waiting for the new nipper to drop. [08:57] help ubuntu has got stuck on a 30 second loop, and its driving me up the wall [08:59] any ideas [08:59] not with that level of detail, no [08:59] I cant see any open aplocations and the pc is stuck.on stand by [09:00] and I cant stop it or get the pc off stand by [09:01] Do you have sshd running on the machine? [09:01] in English please [09:01] That'll be a no then [09:02] Howie: the ssh deamon, the program that allows you to SSH into your box [09:02] I have no idea what that is anyway [09:02] right [09:02] I have SSHd running on all of my linux machines, so that if they freeze, I can connect from another machine and kill whatever is causing the freeze [09:02] Howie: have you tried turning it off and on again? [09:02] IT Crowd to the rescue [09:03] popey it wont turn off [09:03] Pull the power cable out [09:03] Or remove the battery [09:03] Howie: press and hold the power button for 15 seconds [09:03] it should then power off [09:03] Yes, what MooDoo says [09:04] it beeps twice and continues to run [09:04] pull the power out [09:04] If it still runs after that, you have bigger problems [09:05] bigcalm: and i want to know his secret as it's running with no power :D [09:05] :) [09:05] wth battery backup mode active just appeared on screen for a few seconds and then it contonues being annoying [09:05] Reminds me of one of the few x-files eps. I can remember: Ghost in the Machine [09:06] Howie: take your trolling elsewhere [09:06] Howie: just remove all power to the machine...that will sort it..... [09:07] I believe howie to be wasting our time here. [09:07] popey its not trolling its me forgetting that I put a backup battery in iy [09:07] bullshit [09:07] Howie: that won't effect anything [09:07] popey: i think that was a little harsh :S [09:07] FIST OF DOOM [09:07] imho [09:07] heh [09:08] MooDoo: feel free to go back over the last year of crap we've had from him and undo that [09:08] then come back to me and tell me it was harsh [09:08] popey: ah ok [09:08] * MooDoo stands corrected [09:09] * MooDoo wonders if it's pushing it a little too far if i mention language ;) [09:09] yes, it is [09:11] Oh, it's him [09:12] indeed [09:12] And now, for something completely different: http://eddirt.frozenreality.co.uk/index.php?id=783 [09:13] haha [09:13] I want me a kitten [09:13] That sums my cat up [09:15] MooDoo: name a pub in nottingham [09:15] "The MooDoo Arms" [09:15] I name this pub... [09:16] Just don't break the bottle [09:17] I do like the pubs in Nottingham, and the people seem quite nice as well [09:18] hmm [09:18] I tried to add a pin to where we are on the UK map the other day [09:18] I think I failed [09:18] :/ [09:19] feck [09:19] czajkowski: did it tell you that you already had said that? [09:19] AlanBell: the trip to jerusalem? the bell in, the salutation inn [09:19] MooDoo: pick one [09:19] AlanBell: no I couldnt move the pin to anywhere other than "London" and I was trying to be specific [09:19] so not sure it saved [09:19] diplo: Except for the rioting scumbags which were in the city center not long ago. [09:20] AlanBell: salutation [09:20] The Bell inn is our usual I believe, that just down / opposite a tescos/mcd's ? [09:20] I forgot to ask my work peeps about that smittix, was it that bad ? [09:20] diplo: Yeah The Bell is a good pub [09:20] czajkowski: it did save, somewhere [09:21] Oo, Nottingham is only 1.5hours from here [09:21] diplo: Yeah It was worse than the media made it out to be. They didnt report on half the things that happened. [09:21] hmm ok [09:21] smittix, :( [09:21] czajkowski: it saved in Westminster, want it deleted? [09:21] I am the only person in London [09:21] I find this hard to believe [09:21] nah tis cool [09:21] diplo: But I have to hand it to Nottinghamshire Police they did a great job. [09:22] smittix: the only things i heard about was in st anns and mansfield [09:22] Nowt happened in my small town, I didn't actually here about it till monday night/tuesday morning [09:22] MooDoo: Bulwell, Sneinton, Meadows, Basford, Radford, St Anns. [09:22] AlanBell: can you RT my last tweet :) [09:23] smittix: where are you living at the mo? [09:23] MooDoo: Bulwell, Stanns, Meadows and Oxclose lane police stations were all attacked. [09:23] MooDoo: Cinderhill. [09:23] didn't know oxclose was :S [09:23] smittix: Calverton here [09:24] Ubuntu UK Road Trip - Nottingham '11 :D [09:24] AlanBell: thanks [09:24] :D [09:24] MooDoo: Yeah, I remember you saying :). One person from Calverton was arrested. [09:25] smittix: yay :D lol [09:25] smittix: don't know the name do you? [09:25] I will have a look [09:26] s'ok i got it [09:27] *sigh* [09:28] Rain is horrible :( [09:28] I quite like the rain [09:28] Want to go home put heating on and watch a movie, not really making me want to stay at work [09:29] Expect when it causes flooding and I lose my car to it in 2007 [09:29] why must every program have a different key combination for re-do :( [09:29] * MooDoo started encoding his movies last night, shame all i've got is a laptop 2.5 hours to encode a movie :S [09:29] we all decided on undo! [09:29] gord: you should try SAP one day [09:29] oh really? [09:29] they have different function key combinations within the application on different screens [09:29] ha nice [09:30] refresh might be F5, F8, or perhaps Shift F2 [09:30] Fun [09:30] yeah [09:30] right, more people tell me about pubs where they live, postcode and name please [09:31] * popey pokes AlanBell DJones and whoever else with -irc [09:31] ok [09:32] Humm? [09:33] AlanBell: the LUG in my county meets here: http://shropshirelug.wordpress.com/meetings/ [09:34] AlanBell: not the biggest pub, but they do have an upstairs room the LUG gets to use [09:34] http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/07/05/free-official-ubuntu-book-for-approved-loco-teams/ for offical locoteams [09:35] :) [09:36] czajkowski: applied for it when that was posted (deadline was monday) [09:37] I have the one for 10.04 LTS if any one is interested in borrowing it :D [09:37] heh, neat. found my suse thing :) http://ubuntuone.com/p/1BCk/ [09:37] *puts it next to the wookie that guards his computer from viruses* [09:38] hehe, i have one of them [09:38] it's in Sams bed [09:38] gord: not seen mine in years :) [09:38] mine was behind the coffee in the kitchen cabinet - smells like coffee now :) [09:39] oh right yes, i took a photo on my phone *watches u1 notify-osd spam me on all my computers* [09:40] I want one of those Tux Droids [09:41] http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/ [09:41] need moar pubs [09:41] * popey will tweet this. [09:41] then I will mix the order up a bit [09:41] can you put some text on that page which describes what we plan? [09:43] the planned route isn't too helpful, just lots of red lines with no progression indicatied [09:43] That is some distance to travel AlanBell :D [09:43] is there a way to add a pub yourself? [09:43] MooDoo: sure, register on the site and I will bump you up to editor [09:43] ok thank you [09:47] popey: Have you discovered whether the WP/Apache/PHP issue is still there on a later version of Ubuntu? [09:48] http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/ [09:49] Zoomed out, the pin looks as though it's in Wolverhampton. It's Telford if that gives and +/- points :) [09:50] TheOpenSourcerer: no, all of them run LTS [09:50] ok [09:50] ty [09:51] Anyone know how to get schema and data out of MSSQL so it could be imported in MySQL or something more free and useful? [09:52] I should be ashamed of myself. Its the first time I have installed 11.10 [09:52] Liking the login screen. [09:52] smittix: I'm still on 10.10 currently. Can't bring myself to get all unityfied just yet. [09:53] TheOpenSourcerer, don't blame you [09:53] TheOpenSourcerer: To be honest I hated unity to start with because it was so different. But now I love it. [09:53] i was in oneiric, then it crashed to much, so went to 10.04, just upgrated to maverick last night [09:53] unity's implementation in natty is really really really really really really really really bugged [09:54] I have no problems in Natty at all. [09:57] Ouch, on exam results day, the UCAS website has crashed and had to been taken offline [09:58] ooops [10:01] TheOpenSourcerer: you can upgrade, and still use Gnome2, just on the login screen select 'Ubuntu Classic'. I had to, as Unity kept flipping my workspace orientation, so nothing was where I put it :/ [10:01] If only they could have predicted when it will be in high demand... [10:02] kirrus: Yeah I can, but why? 10.10 is stable and reliable. I use this for work and don't really have time to get to grips with all the other UI changes right now. [10:04] Newer version of firefox? I tend to upgrade just because I've seen what happens to machines that don't get upgraded, ever. (i.e. they're a pig to get up-to-date, or they just break when you try) [10:04] I am running FF6 this morning. [10:05] Same here (think I was yesterday as well). When will this crazyness end? [10:05] The guy who does the HTML Validator extension has stopped releasing until the API settles down :( [10:06] bigcalm, never, then [10:06] I'm not very happy about the Mozilla 6weekly release schedule. As an extension dev (for Thunderbird which is also now on the 6 week cycle) it is a pain in the bottom. [10:06] It's just a number! WTF can't they update a minor one rather than a major? [10:06] the new api they are making is supposed to fix that problem [10:07] if its just a number why does it matter? [10:08] The way you specify the version an extension relies on major numbers. [10:08] install.rdf, isn't it? [10:08] Yeah [10:09] TheOpenSourcerer, re MSSQL, could use php/perl to extract and put into mysql [10:09] I did it at my last job [10:09] 3.0 [10:09] 6.0.* [10:10] who te hell uses toy products like mssql? [10:10] one of our customers [10:10] o/ [10:10] so we are going to put it in a real database [10:10] but there is a lack of sensible export options from MSSQL [10:11] that's not how lock-in works [10:11] http://www.convert-in.com/mss2sql.htm this looks like it might work [10:11] heh, we had quite a few software companies dependant on it, so we let them use it and exported the data to mysql to do with it what we wanted [10:11] There are a few commercial tools. There used to be a MySQL tool but that EOL'd in 2008 [10:12] yeah that was the issue I came across TheOpenSourcerer [10:12] however a free softare mysqldump tool for mssql would be kind of nice [10:12] http://ms2my.sourceforge.net/ [10:12] There is AlanBell, you can do CLI with MSSQL [10:12] trying to remember commands, has been a while since I had to do it [10:13] Last Update 2009-07-17 :-( [10:13] Not sure if it's human readable though like mysqldump [10:14] Also seems to be http://sqldump.sourceforge.net [10:14] lol 2002 [10:14] :D [10:14] 2005 MSSQL ? [10:15] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Aa174646 [10:16] Can't tell if that handles the schema or not. [10:16] yeah looks like what I used [10:17] http://blog.simonholywell.com/post/374215441/sql-server-2005-dump-to-sql-statements [10:19] My brother is a MSSQL chap, want me to ask how to dump the schema ? [10:19] morning all [10:20] That would be kind diplo - thanks. If he has time of course. [10:21] That blog post and the DPW look to be helpful too. Thanks. [10:21] Does anyone here have a Vega Tablet? [10:22] Will send him a text now, he was always my fall guy when I got stuck with MSSQL, not really my speciality by any means, but I normally get by, but not having to touch it for nearly 2 years doesn't help :) [10:24] £875 for a linux ODBC driver for MSSQL! [10:24] http://www.easysoft.com/products/data_access/odbc-sql-server-driver/index.html [10:24] Don't need it.. can do it with a pear module [10:25] hello [10:25] http://pear.php.net/package/MDB2_Driver_mssql/redirected [10:25] I believe [10:25] so, after a very long and painful process, I've got cuts, in .ogv, for all the bits of my screencast that I want. [10:25] now I want to put them together and publish them [10:25] I basically have no idea how to do this [10:25] openshot \o/ [10:25] mencoder doesn't output ogv for me [10:26] AlanBell: openshot is fail [10:26] AlanBell: it snips off beginnings and ends of clips [10:26] AlanBell: at least when I am playing back within openshot [10:27] hmm, try a test render, I have not seen that problem [10:33] Hmm my Google+ Invites arent going down. [10:34] MartijnVdS: I can't stop playing "Kakkaoi!" song :P [10:34] If you listen to this you will not get it out of your head http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bAN7Ts0xBo [10:35] smittix: heh, man I haven't heard that in years XD [10:36] No mine don't either [10:36] Don't think they are are really doing it, just a ploy to say it's in "Beta" [10:36] when me and my friends first heard that song in like 2000, we all went out and were doing the dance constantly [10:36] HazRPG: I actually like it. [10:37] then WoW:BC came out, people all thought we were imitating the Draenei dance [10:38] morning davmor2 [10:39] morning MooDoo [10:39] HazRPG: haha [10:40] smittix: yeah I do too, I first heard heard the song in Saudi on the asian Channel V music channel, it use to be a random channel, mainly English songs played - but they're occasionally do music from all across asia (india, china, korea, japan, etc) [10:42] there was another Punjabi song I really liked back then, but because I can't really remember the lyrics (and since you can't do a google search on an image that's in your head) ... I could never find it [10:44] HazRPG: This one makes me laugh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdyC1BrQd6g [10:45] AlanBell: basically, Openshot's internal playback is very unreliable for me [10:46] but the output render seems to go ok [10:47] I think the internal renderer tries to play back realtime even if it can't get the data on screen fast enough === andybleaden_ is now known as andybleaden [10:48] Anyone else here having issues with Chomium recently since a recent update, seems to just lock up ( go grey ) [10:48] Just from a selecting a link [10:49] smittix: heh that dude looks familiar! [10:49] diplo, close all chromium windows. run a ps -ef | grep chromium. you may have a defective chromium flash process [10:49] smittix: haha no wait, I have heard this song before XD [10:50] I would love to get an Ubuntu hour up here in Manchester...perhaps one of the wifi friendlier pubs in the city... [10:50] smittix: it was another song I heard on Channel V [10:50] It keeps happening directhex even after reboots since maybe 2 days ago [10:52] andybleaden: tell AlanBell about a put and get it added to the list :) [10:53] andybleaden: pub not put :) [10:53] andybleaden: pick a pub name and postcode [10:54] does it have to have wifi [10:54] or just nice beer [10:54] beer [10:54] dont rush now! [10:54] I would go for the marble arch then [10:54] I nominate the Crown Beeston Nottingham NG9 1FY http://www.everards.co.uk/pubs/crown_inn_173/ [10:55] sally: FTW! [10:55] * AlanBell adds that to the list, thanks sally [10:55] sally: another nottingham user eh :D [10:55] Marble Arch 73 Rochdale Road Manchester M4 4HY [10:56] brew their own beer too! [10:56] #ubuntu-uk-notts-branch :) [10:56] http://www.marblebeers.co.uk/ [10:56] MooDoo :) link? [10:57] sally: i was just creating a irc channel as a joke :) although i'm in it lol [10:57] Marble is also easy public transport wise in Manchester and away from the noisy part [10:58] many others here in GM area? [10:58] smittix: if you wanna hear something really random... just before saudi arabian channel 2 (they only had 2 local TV channels) was turned on or opened up, this was the song that played, just to let you know they were about to start the first program: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajf6WO4MuSg [10:59] AlanBell: i nominate the hop blossom [11:03] TheOpenSourcerer, my brother is on hols but said ossql is what you want [11:03] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa213088%28v=sql.80%29.aspx [11:03] wait more notts people? [11:03] I remember now that is what I used [11:03] o/ - Sorta [11:03] I pop up for work every other month or so [11:03] AlanBell, Marble Arch 73 Rochdale Road Manchester M4 4HY [11:06] Laney: a few more yeah :) [11:06] smittix: heh, score managed to find it... was trying to find a song that I head on Channel V on my last holiday to the Philippines. Ironically their influence is Michael Jackson (and you can tell from the style of the music and the dance): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja3T8GdADIs [11:06] Laney: diplo smittix and sally was here, she's from beeston :D [11:07] Laney: got her in #ubuntu-uk-nottingham lol :) [11:07] heh [11:07] i live in beeston too [11:07] small world eh [11:07] Laney: yeah considering i used to live in chilwell :) [11:08] \o/ subteams [11:08] i live in a pineapple under the sea [11:08] yup #ubuntu-uk-nottingham is alive and well :D [11:08] *snigger* [11:09] j lwjgl [11:09] does that mean AlanBell / popey / czajkowski will have to do uk subteam approvals ;) [11:10] HazRPG: Catchy song! [11:10] Laney: Cinderhill Here :) [11:10] smittix: isn't it just! Its korean iirc [11:11] MooDoo: yes, but I have heard the UK subteam approval board is quite corrupt and open to bribery [11:11] arr, good ol' phoenix park [11:11] AlanBell: i should hope so :) [11:12] morning all [11:12] MooDoo lives in some strange village out in the sticks [11:12] or good afternoon rather [11:12] * MooDoo would like to have the #ubuntu-uk-nottingham subteam approved....cash on its way to AlanBell :) [11:13] Laney: pah! yeah ok your right :D [11:13] it's alright, working in the city qualifies you for membership [11:13] phew :) [11:14] and not far from the trip either ;) [11:14] heart, right? [11:14] yeah [11:14] near the donor centre [11:15] Laney: are you stalking me ;) [11:15] no, i just see it when i go there to donate [11:15] smittix: I thought I wrote more song titles down in my journal, but seems not! Must have had them down on a piece of paper or something and lost them [11:15] ah cool :) [11:16] which I hope you do too :-) [11:16] Laney: alas no [11:16] Laney: i carry a medical green card which means i'm not allowed [11:16] :( [11:17] Laney: which does annoy me seeing as i work next door lol [11:17] Android fans! is there any way i can block text numbers? [11:17] i can't donate [11:18] they get tetchy when you pass out from just being in te building [11:18] gord: there is if you're using cyanogen, i'm not sure it blocks texts though [11:18] I have a pretty cool hole pattern on my inside elbow from donating [11:20]