[00:37] <h00k> Cheesehead: are you here right now?
[00:37] <h00k> Cheesehead: can I /query you with my cell number, can you call me? I had an emergency at work and won't be available tonight
[00:38] <Cheesehead> Yo
[00:38] <h00k> My goal was to basically go over the agenda, remind people about artwork, but that was it
[00:38] <Cheesehead> Want me to handle it for you?
[00:38] <h00k> but I can't be there (I have to leave this location and will be without internets for a bit)
[00:38] <h00k> Cheesehead: are you comfortable in doing that?
[00:38] <Cheesehead> Yes
[00:38] <h00k> Cheesehead: I'll /query you my number, if you need to call for any reason
[00:38] <h00k> Cheesehead: I super-appreciate it
[00:39] <h00k> Cheesehead: if you don't need anything else, feel free
[00:39] <Cheesehead> Not a problem. No real need for your number. I forsee nothing critical that cannot wait
[00:39] <h00k> and please express my apologies for not being able to attend
[00:39] <h00k> ;)
[00:40] <h00k> okay, I have to cruise. Some work was done without quality control, we're on a tight deadline, and I have to go put out an inferno.
[00:40] <Cheesehead> Good luck with it!
[00:40] <h00k> Yeah...
[00:40] <h00k> Peace all.
[00:57] <Cheesehead> Wisconsin LoCo Gloabl Jam Planning meeting in three minutes
[00:57] <Cheesehead> ping douglasawh-deskt, KBme, lostson, mikeputnam, nickmoeck, ripps
[00:58] <lostson> good evening
[00:58] <lostson> just walked in n
[00:58] <Cheesehead> Wisconsin LoCo Global Jam Planning meeting in three minutes
[00:58] <lostson> i cant stay my wife has to work nights so she is taking a nap and i have to watch the kids will have to catch up later
[00:59] <Cheesehead> lostson: rgr
[00:59] <Cheesehead> Thanks for letting us know!
[00:59] <lostson> wednesdays dont work well for me once the kids are in bed say 930 or so i will be back
[01:00] <bigbash> I'm here, just got back
[01:00] <Cheesehead> I don;t call it 'watching the kids'. I just call it 'parenting'. My wife digs that
[01:00] <lostson> yeah must mean i am a bad parent then cause i call it watching
[01:00] <Cheesehead> No, you're just getting the credit you deserve
[01:00] <Cheesehead> er, not getting...
[01:01] <Cheesehead> OK, let's get started
[01:01] <Cheesehead> #startmeeting
[01:01] <Cheesehead> (I know - no bot here)
[01:01] <Cheesehead> h00k had to step out, asked me to chair
[01:01] <Cheesehead> This is the Wisconsin Loco Global Jam Planning Meeting http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/178/detail/
[01:01] <Cheesehead> The agenda is in the link
[01:02] <Cheesehead> First up, could everyone active in channel please give some kind of response?
[01:02] <bludude> yo
[01:03] <mongo65> geo
[01:03]  * Cheesehead gazes into the distance, daydreaming for a moment while the responses roll in...
[01:03]  * bigbash waves
[01:04] <bludude> how does one do that effect? i'm an IRC n00b
[01:04] <Cheesehead> bludude: forward-slash ME blah blah
[01:04] <bigbash> ./me then something
[01:04] <bigbash> minus the .
[01:05] <Cheesehead> [Topic] Introductions
[01:05]  * bludude test
[01:05] <Cheesehead> I had a bad connection last time, so I'll lead off...
[01:05] <Cheesehead> I'm Ian, in Milwaukee.
[01:05] <Cheesehead> I've been using Ubuntu since '06
[01:06] <Cheesehead> I'm not a tech person, just been hanging around for a long time.
[01:06] <Cheesehead> I'm also a moderator for Ubuntu Brainstorm
[01:06] <Cheesehead> Any volunteers to go next?  For example, bluedude?
[01:07] <bludude> I'm JC, in Menomonee Falls
[01:07] <bludude> I've been using Ubuntu since '08
[01:07] <bludude> I'm a tech person; I created the Ubuntu GNOME Remix
[01:08] <Cheesehead> mongo65, want to tell us anything about yourself?
[01:08] <Cheesehead> bludude: hold...
[01:08] <Cheesehead> mongo65 has the floor
[01:09] <mongo65> not much to tell im in rhinelander not supper techy been using ubuntu for a few years now
[01:10] <Cheesehead> Thanks...
[01:10] <Cheesehead> Bigbash? Want to say?
[01:10] <bigbash> I'm Shawn, from Neenah
[01:10] <bigbash> been using Ubuntu sine '08
[01:10] <bigbash> I'm a tech person, I'm on here almost all the time
[01:11] <bigbash> well since I found out about this group
[01:11]  * bludude asks for you to please ignore the bugs in his wifi driver while he finds an ethernet cable
[01:11] <Cheesehead> Thanks, bigbash.  Anyone else out there I missed?
[01:12] <Cheesehead> Going once...
[01:12] <Cheesehead> Going twice...
[01:12] <Cheesehead> Gone.
[01:12] <Cheesehead> Fellows, thanks a lot for...
[01:12] <Cheesehead> participating tonight.
[01:13] <Cheesehead> [Topic] Global Jam Overview
[01:13] <Cheesehead> We covered a lot of ground last week.
[01:13] <Cheesehead> We have a definite Ubuntu Hour in MKE on Sept 2
[01:13] <Cheesehead> We have a couple possible IRC events on the agenda...
[01:14] <Cheesehead> Anyone want to add to the possibles?...
[01:14] <Cheesehead> And then we can gauge interest?
[01:14] <bludude> I am interested in the IRC events, but will probably not attend the Ubuntu hour
[01:15] <bigbash> Ditto, most interested in the bug event
[01:15] <Yotux> Sept 2nd holiday weekend
[01:16] <Cheesehead> Welcome, Yotux. True, holiday un the USA
[01:16] <Cheesehead> That will hurt us a bit
[01:17] <Cheesehead> But still an opportunity to get together, even if just IRC
[01:17] <Cheesehead> For most of us
[01:17] <Cheesehead> Floor is open for [IDEAS]. Doe anybody want to propose an event for Sept 2-4?
[01:17] <Cheesehead> That'
[01:17] <Cheesehead> That's not already on the agenda?
[01:19]  * Cheesehead bangs the gavel once
[01:19] <Cheesehead> OK, no new proposals.
[01:19] <Cheesehead> Let's look at the ones we already have:
[01:19] <Cheesehead> Bug Triage - anybody here have bug experience?
[01:21] <Cheesehead> Ideally, looking for somebody to volunteer to choose the date/time for an IRC bug jam, and coordinate it...
[01:21] <bigbash> I don't but I signed up for BugSquad for a mentor, but haven't heard back yet
[01:22] <Cheesehead> bigbash: I can mentor you a bit. When do you want to do it?
[01:22] <bludude> I'd also like to get involved in bugs
[01:22] <Cheesehead> Let's see some proposals for times on Sept 3 or 4...
[01:22] <bigbash> Whenever I'm on all the time, I get a lot of freedom at work and usually after 9pm
[01:23] <Cheesehead> How about Sept 4 (Sunday) 12:00 - 15:00 CDT?
[01:23] <bigbash> Works for me
[01:24] <Cheesehead> bludude? OK time?
[01:24] <bludude> probably
[01:24] <nathan_> Sound like it could work
[01:25] <Cheesehead> bigbash: Will you take charge of announcing it to the list?
[01:25] <bigbash> Sure
[01:25] <yotux> Cheesehead:  do you have any focus points for this event?
[01:26] <Cheesehead> yotux: Let's send focus ideas though bigbash.
[01:26] <yotux> okay
[01:26] <Cheesehead> bigbash: You okay with that kind of coordination?
[01:27] <bigbash> Sure That works for me
[01:27] <Cheesehead> [action] Bigbash to coordinate Sunday Sept 4 IRC Bug Jam
[01:28]  * Cheesehead is always happy to advise and provide backup
[01:28] <Cheesehead> Next event:...
[01:28] <Cheesehead> Brainstorm idea triage, Sep 3 (Saturday) 12:00-15:00
[01:28] <Cheesehead> That's my baby.
[01:28] <Cheesehead> Brainstorm is a great way for people who don't...
[01:29] <Cheesehead> know much about Ubuntu's bugs and teams and upstreams and other...
[01:29] <Cheesehead> structures to learn about them.
[01:29] <Cheesehead> I sent an e-mail announcement around. I won't repeat it here.
[01:29] <yotux> I would be willing to be part of your Brainstorm
[01:29] <Cheesehead> Groovy. Thanks
[01:30] <yotux> New to bug reporting have filed a few bugs though
[01:30] <bigbash> I'd like to take part too
[01:30] <bludude> same here
[01:30] <Cheesehead> These events are both great ways to stick your toe in the water...
[01:30] <Cheesehead> without committing to deep water.
[01:31] <Cheesehead> OK,...
[01:31]  * bludude apologizes for being a bit distracted, as he is talking to his mother ATM
[01:31] <h00k> hi friends from my phone
[01:31] <Cheesehead> h00k: hey!
[01:31] <h00k> apologies for bit bring able to chair the meeting
[01:31] <h00k> being
[01:31] <Cheesehead> Let's reopen the floor one last time to new event [IDEA]s.
[01:32] <h00k> meet and greet
[01:32] <Cheesehead> Anyone have a vague interest they would like to see happen?
[01:32] <h00k> maybe Rhinelander or Superior
[01:32] <h00k> not sure where I'll be
[01:32] <Cheesehead> h00k: Cool. Are you committing to an Ubuntu hour in one of those places?
[01:32] <h00k> I'll send an email later clarifying
[01:32] <h00k> perhaps, I may be moving that weekend
[01:33] <Cheesehead> h00k: No problem. UGJ is every six months.
[01:33] <Cheesehead> As you know perfectly well
[01:33] <h00k> ;)
[01:33] <Cheesehead> Floor is still open for any new event proposals...
[01:33] <h00k> ok.gotta ruin
[01:33] <h00k> run
[01:34] <h00k> peace
[01:34] <Cheesehead> h00k: Good luck!
[01:34] <Cheesehead> Going once...
[01:34] <Cheesehead> Going twice...
[01:35]  * Cheesehead bangs the gavel
[01:35] <Cheesehead> Oh yeah...
[01:35] <Cheesehead> [action] Cheesehaed coordinated Brainstorm Triage
[01:35] <Cheesehead> Last item on the agenda...
[01:36] <Cheesehead> [Topic] T-shirts? (Artwork)
[01:36] <bludude> cool idea
[01:36] <Cheesehead> Some discussion last week, some interest.
[01:36] <Cheesehead> We need some such art.
[01:36] <yotux> Interested no an artist sorry
[01:36] <yotux> T shirt or polo?
[01:36] <Cheesehead> Well, let's stick with artwork for now
[01:36] <bludude> my art skills are rather lacking. I would go for a t-shirt
[01:37] <Cheesehead> Shirt buys at this point are premature without art.
[01:37] <Cheesehead> Art also goes on the website, etc.
[01:37] <Cheesehead> Who has done shirt buys fore for a group?
[01:37] <yotux> Cheesehead:  what type of art are you looking for?
[01:37] <yotux> May have some non ubuntu contacts I could tap
[01:38] <Cheesehead> Something cool for a website and a t-shirt
[01:38] <Cheesehead> Maybe a poster
[01:38] <Cheesehead> Something that says UBUNTU and WISCONSIN and COOL
[01:39] <Cheesehead> I suspect we're looking for concepts more than details at this point
[01:39] <Cheesehead> But if someone's friend or talented spouse happens to come through...
[01:39] <Cheesehead> ...that would be great.
[01:40] <Cheesehead> If you have such a friend, and a beer or two to pay them with,...
[01:40] <Cheesehead> then post the result on the mailing list to gather some feedback...
[01:40] <Cheesehead> and we can gauge interest at the next IRC meeting.
[01:41] <Cheesehead> Once we have a concept that a quorum likes, then we can specialize it into shirts and web art, etc.
[01:41] <yotux> I am a ham radio operator.  Have a follow radio op that is a photographer.
[01:41] <Cheesehead> yotux: Great!
[01:41] <yotux> Thinking out loud:  Ubuntu circle with a twist of wisconsin?
[01:42] <Cheesehead> yotux: Possible. I'd need to see it.
[01:42] <yotux> maybe a cheesehead is the middle?  not sure
[01:42] <Cheesehead> yotux: Or a cow. Or a fishing boat. :)
[01:42] <bludude> Canonical doesn't often play nice with mods of the Ubuntu logo, be advised
[01:43] <Cheesehead> bludude: Good point. There are guidelines for that.
[01:43] <yotux> thanks will do some legal work with Canonical
[01:43] <yotux> legal should have been leg
[01:44] <Cheesehead> [action] yotux will research Ubuntu Trademark guidelines for logo use.
[01:44] <Cheesehead> And anyone else, if you have a concept, put it on the mailing list.
[01:44] <Cheesehead> Any problems with that course of action?
[01:45] <yotux> Fair
[01:45]  * Cheesehead bangs the gavel
[01:45] <yotux> or second action
[01:46] <Cheesehead> Any last meeting business?...
[01:46] <Cheesehead> That was the final agenda topic.
[01:46] <Cheesehead> I don't know h00k's plan for the next meeting date. I know it will go out over the mailing list
[01:47] <Cheesehead> Everyone, thanks again for coming!
[01:47] <Cheesehead> #endmeeting
[01:47] <Cheesehead> Drinks in the atrium
[01:47]  * bigbash grabs a drink
[01:48] <Cheesehead> yotux: When you figure out the trademark issue, do please put out the relevant result on the mailing list.
[01:48] <Cheesehead> yotux: If you want someone to review a draft, feel free to ping me.
[01:48] <yotux> okay
[01:49] <Cheesehead> bigbash: Thanks for taking charge of the Bug Jam.
[01:49] <yotux> I am stepping away
[01:49] <bigbash> No problem
[01:49] <Cheesehead> bigbash: If you have any questions or issue, feel free to ping me!
[01:50] <bigbash> I probably will just to be sure i'm covering everything
[01:51] <Cheesehead> yotux, bigbash: we seem to have some good people in this group - if I'm not around, you can probably ping just about anyone for a second opinion.
[01:52] <Cheesehead> General ping: Anyone in the MKE area planning to attend the Sept 2 Ubuntu Hour?
[01:52] <Cheesehead> (I expect probably not the first month. Couple months to get rolling.)
[01:53] <bludude> I could, but I'm 15, can't drive yet, and don't think my parents will be excited to take me to a random place to meet a bunch of internet randoms...
[02:02] <Cheesehead> bludude: Then don't worry about it. That's good sense.
[02:03] <bludude> yep
[02:03] <Cheesehead> bludude: Do you ever make it over to MKE LUG?
[02:04] <bludude> no. I have heard of these mythical LUG things, but I have never seen one in action...
[02:05] <Cheesehead> bludude: They would be more interesting if they served pizza. I can only take an apparmor lecture for so long before I zone out.
[02:05] <bludude> lol
[02:05] <Cheesehead> That's why we're shifting gears toward Ubuntu Hours
[02:05] <Cheesehead> Public place, more social,...
[02:06] <Cheesehead> short enough to bring a spouse or girlfriend along with a good book for an hour.
[02:06] <Cheesehead> Not long enough to get really geeky,
[02:06] <Cheesehead> Or rather the really technical stuff goes over to the side alcoves
[02:06] <bludude> makes sense
[02:06] <Cheesehead> We'll see how it works.
[02:07] <Cheesehead> Sept 2 is an experiment. Never done one before.
[02:07] <Cheesehead> I'm just gonna show up with my little Ubuntu sign slung over the back of my laptop.
[02:07] <Cheesehead> Maybe bring a friend for company. Maybe not.
[02:08] <Cheesehead> I'll do 12 of them (one year), and see if anything takes off.
[02:08] <Cheesehead> If not, try something else
[02:14] <yotux> are we going to try and become an offical loco team
[02:15] <Cheesehead> Yes - I'm sure not doing all these reports for fun!
[02:15] <Cheesehead> Well...maybe a little for fun.
[02:16] <yotux> cheesehead: just asking  I see we are not offical yet
[02:17] <yotux> what needs to be done to get us certified,  willing to help out
[02:17] <Cheesehead> We need to show mostly that we're not a flash in the pan...
[02:18] <Cheesehead> That we do events that are public-oriented, welcome new users,...
[02:18] <Cheesehead> That we have a large-enough group and leadership to be sustainable...
[02:18] <Cheesehead> That users are feeling fulfilled by participating.
[02:19] <Cheesehead> Everyone has a different idea of what a good, functioning team looks like. But those are the basics.
[02:22] <Cheesehead> The specifics are on the LoCo Team wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[02:23] <Cheesehead> Goodness, the French LoCo got 5000 people to attend their release party.
[02:23] <Cheesehead> I think if we put our heads together we can get a couple events going.
[02:24] <Cheesehead> Something, perhaps, worth doing a t-shirt for!
[02:34] <bigbash> we're like one of the only unapproved LoCo teams that actually has events listed
[02:35] <Cheesehead> bigbash: Yeah, because we're trying.
[02:36] <Cheesehead> You don;t get approved on promises. You get approved by doing stuff.
[02:36] <bigbash> understandable
[02:36] <Cheesehead> Announcing on that site isn't necessary, but is convenient.
[02:38] <Cheesehead> Doing stuff means we must be organized. Lots of good tools for that, too.
[02:38] <Cheesehead> Getting organized means getting to know each other, interests, goals.
[02:38] <Cheesehead> Another reason for Ubuntu Hours. Good time to do those.
[02:39] <bigbash> Cheesehead so people are going to send me focus ideas via mailing list or irc for the Bug Jam?
[02:40] <Cheesehead> Yes...
[02:40] <Cheesehead> I recommend doing one of those wiki announcements,...
[02:40] <Cheesehead> and an IRC and e-mail announcement.
[02:41] <bigbash> ok
[02:41] <Cheesehead> "Hey, I'm setting this event up. Blah time, Blah IRC channel. I want your input on stuff you want to do during the event"
[02:41] <Cheesehead> So if somebody ONLY want to cover Software Center bugs, great. You put them in charge of that
[02:42] <Cheesehead> and advertise that Person is doing SC bugs, and willing to mentor new people on them, etc.
[02:42] <bigbash> makes sense
[02:42] <Cheesehead> You're the switchboard operator, you just need to let people know.
[02:44] <Cheesehead> So someone shows up and says 'how can I help', you have a couple options for them. Well, person A is doing these kinds of bugs, and person B is training brand-new folks, and person C is doing those kinds of bugs, and what do you feel comfortable doing?
[02:44] <Cheesehead> You're also the store greeter, in that sense.
[02:44] <bigbash> got it, Wal-mart greeter
[02:45] <Cheesehead> So, in this case, we know we have a lot of people interested in learning triage...
[02:46] <Cheesehead> so keep your ears open for somebody willing to teach it.
[02:47] <Cheesehead> Or advertise it. "Hey, I got four people who want to learn triage, I need someone to show up with links and a short training course, and help out with training and mentoring"
[02:47] <bigbash> I have that link from BugSquad for a quick briefing into triaging bugs
[02:47] <bigbash> I was going to include that
[02:48] <Cheesehead> True, and you have people here (like me) who have done it.
[02:48] <bigbash> nice
[02:48] <bigbash> feel like going through one or two with me?
[02:48] <Cheesehead> Some people prefer to learn from the wiki, some don't. We must be flexible and cater to both types.
[02:49] <bigbash> or whenever you have time
[02:49] <Cheesehead> Sure, but cannot tonight.
[02:49] <Cheesehead> I have ignored that sink full of dirty dishes too long!
[02:49] <Cheesehead> Also, we should find someone more current on bugs. I've been mostly out of Triage for almost three years.
[02:50] <bigbash> I can ask to see if anyone is available from #ubuntu-bugs
[02:50] <Cheesehead> Also look back through the wiki and and IRC Ubuntu Week.
[02:51] <Cheesehead> You're coordinating it; you don't need to suddenly be a bug expert yourself.
[02:52] <Cheesehead> A bug guy (like me) *will* show up.
[02:52] <Cheesehead> You just want me to show up prepared to mentor (yes, I will)
[02:53] <Cheesehead> The basic theory is everyone looks at the same bug
[02:53] <Cheesehead> We talk about it.
[02:53] <Cheesehead> Then one of us triages it based on the consensus.
[02:53] <Cheesehead> Then the group moves on to the next bug.
[02:53] <Cheesehead> We do five or so this way
[02:53] <Cheesehead> Crawl-walk-run.  This is crawl.
[02:54] <bigbash> awesome
[02:54] <Cheesehead> Then we break out into smaller groups. Maybe two or three new-triagers in each group.
[02:54] <Cheesehead> The mentor jumps between groups.
[02:54] <Cheesehead> Each group discusses, and takes the consensus to mentor for approval.
[02:54] <Cheesehead> That's walk.
[02:55] <Cheesehead> That's as far as you'll get in three hours.
[02:55] <Cheesehead> Run is triaging bugs at home alone for fun.
[02:55] <Cheesehead> The mentor is the #ubuntu-bugs IRC list for run.
[02:56] <Cheesehead> See...no need for lots of read-ahead. Some people will anyway, and they will transmit the info to everyone else.
[02:56] <Cheesehead> And everyone has a good time.
[02:56] <bigbash> nice, I'm looking forward to this
[02:57] <Cheesehead> Me, too.
[02:58] <Cheesehead> One of Ubuntu's biggest problems in general right now is growing leaders and mentors.
[02:58] <Cheesehead> Technical people are not taught how to lead groups or mentor people. They muddle through, some are good at it...
[02:59] <Cheesehead> But those are not born traits. Both must be taught/learned.
[02:59] <Cheesehead> One of my goals in this group is to teach people how to lead, and how to mentor.
[02:59] <bigbash> thats a great goal
[02:59] <Cheesehead> Thanks.
[03:02] <Cheesehead> bigbash: Please be explicit in the announcement - new users, and no-experience-with-bugs are welcome. All training will be provided, and it's a great way to meet people and learn about Ubuntu.
[03:02] <Cheesehead> Mentors and trainers are also welcome
[03:03] <Cheesehead> If anyone has a specific focus, shoot it to you so you can make it available to everyone.
[03:04] <bigbash> sounds good, I'm typing it up now actually
[03:04] <Cheesehead> If anyone has a problem with the time, let them propose alternatives. No guarantee, but perhaps a second session may be possible if enough interest
[03:05] <Cheesehead> You may not get much (or any) response. But you got some in this meeting, and you got at least one mentor already lined up, so I think you just need to tie the ribbon on the package.
[03:14] <Cheesehead> Minutes and log of tonight's meeting are posted: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/WisconsinTeam/20110817
[03:14]  * Cheesehead goes off to clean up the kitchen
[03:18]  * bigbash sent out Bug Jam to mailing list
[03:55] <Cheesehead> bigbash: Great announcement1
[13:28] <h00k> mongo65 was from Rhinelander?
[13:28] <h00k> awesome.
[13:29] <h00k> reviewing the logs
[13:29] <h00k> oop, have to call a client
[15:02] <bigbash> morning h00k
[15:02] <h00k> bigbash: hey there
[15:04] <h00k> bigbash: thanks for being at the meeting last night ;)
[15:04] <h00k> sorry I couldn't be there
[15:04] <bigbash> no problem
[15:04] <bigbash> h00k, you on call ?
[15:06] <h00k> bigbash: not exactly, no
[15:06] <h00k> kinda.
[15:06] <h00k> I'm salaried, if that means anything
[15:06] <bigbash> it does, I am as well
[15:07] <h00k> It was...erm. We had to revisit some quality control.
[15:08] <bigbash> gotcha
[15:08] <h00k> On a tight deadline.
[15:08] <h00k> Also, *ahem* completely unrelated...
[15:09] <bigbash> bah, just got work email. no casual friday tomorrow :(
[15:09] <h00k> If you're installing new computers in a new Windows environment, rename, restart, join to domain, restart.  Do not skip that first restart. It wreaks havoc on Active Directory.
[15:10] <bigbash> agreed
[15:11] <h00k> No casual Friday?! That's blasphemy!
[15:12] <bigbash> ikr
[15:12] <bigbash> we're made to wear ties, so I'm not a fan
[15:13] <bigbash> has anyone been wating the live keynotes from LinuxCon?
[15:17] <h00k> I was supposed to be there :|
[15:17] <h00k> I won a free ticket last year, couldn't redeem it, couldn't afford it this year post-wedding and all
[15:17] <h00k> I will be watching them when I get a chance
[15:17] <bigbash> ah, weddings are expensive
[15:18] <h00k> Ours wasn't too terrible, considering the events we did (9 motoryachts to an island with family), live band, etc
[15:18] <h00k> I have a good set of friends.
[15:19] <bigbash> That's good. 9 motoryachts to an island?
[15:19] <bigbash> sounds like a blast
[15:19] <h00k> It was :)
[15:20] <bigbash> We did it kinda small, her parents neighbor let us borrow his Model A to drive from ceremony to reception
[15:20] <h00k> Oh, nice
[15:20] <h00k> we had approx 50 at the ceremony, maybe a bit over 100 (120?) at the reception
[15:21] <bigbash> our friends wedding was very different, it was at 7:30AM
[15:21] <h00k> Oh, that is different.
[15:32] <h00k> Hello, Favrenation
[15:32] <Favrenation> whatup whatup
[15:32] <h00k> I'd like to meet mongo65 sometime, apparently from Rhinelander
[15:32] <Favrenation> thats way up north
[15:33] <h00k> Favrenation: yes it is ;)
[15:33] <h00k> That's where I be.
[15:33] <Favrenation> i have a cabin up there lol
[15:33] <Favrenation> no internet of course
[15:33] <h00k> Cool. What lake?
[15:33] <h00k> (all cabins are generally on a lake ;))
[15:33] <Favrenation> whiggins or something lol
[15:34] <Favrenation> its more by iron mountain
[15:34] <h00k> ah, okay.
[15:35] <Favrenation> how does he get internet up there?
[15:35] <Favrenation> always looked at way to get internet up north
[15:35] <Favrenation> other than sucky 3g or dialup
[15:38] <h00k> We have internet up here
[15:38] <h00k> Charter is in the area
[15:38] <h00k> Some places are still stuck with DSL, however
[15:38] <h00k> depends on how far out you are
[15:41] <bigbash> h00k, you're from Rhinelander?
[15:41] <Favrenation> i have dsl
[15:41] <Favrenation> 6mbps down
[15:42] <h00k> bigbash: yes
[15:42] <h00k> don't hold it against me
[15:42] <bigbash> ha, I won't.  We have a location up there
[15:42] <h00k> bigbash: Cool :)
[15:42] <h00k> So do we ;)
[15:42] <Favrenation> did u see a hodag?
[15:43] <h00k> The other day jogging, yeah ;)
[15:43] <h00k> It was chasing a white bulldog
[15:43] <Favrenation> lol
[15:44] <h00k> It's a pretty sweet mascot, I have to admit
[15:44] <h00k> a good conversation starter, anyway
[15:44] <Favrenation> i remember those comerical
[15:45] <Favrenation> so lame though
[15:45] <Favrenation> but i have a weird wisconsin book
[15:45] <Favrenation> pretty cool stories about it
[15:49] <bigbash> Linux - A Short Retrospective and an Opinion on the Future -- Keynote starts in 12min
[15:49] <bigbash> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/linux-foundation-live
[15:49] <bigbash> in case anyone wanted to know
[15:50] <h00k> I would, but I can't
[15:50] <h00k> and it's killing me
[15:52] <bigbash> the ones from yesterday aren't available yet
[16:06] <h00k> hey, bludude.
[16:06] <bludude> Hey
[16:06] <bludude> Ubuntu shop items just arrived :)
[16:08] <h00k> What'd 'ya get?
[16:08] <bludude> Couple shirts and a hoodie
[16:08] <h00k> sweet
[16:09] <h00k> This PC has a rootkit of some type, still looking for it. It keeps opening the oddest pages.
[16:09] <h00k> like Google Translater
[16:09] <h00k> *Translate
[16:09] <h00k> and Yahoo News
[16:09] <h00k> Yahoo Finance, CNN,
[16:10] <bludude> Strange. Is it windoze?
[16:10] <h00k> 'Course ;)
[16:10] <h00k> Not mine.
[16:11] <bludude> Well that explains a lot
[16:17] <bigbash> does anyone think they might be able to guide me in porting some sna stuff from an old version of linux to current?
[16:25] <h00k> bigbash: maybe if you poke ripps (who isn't here), he does some packaging stuffs
[16:25] <h00k> or ping the mailing list
[16:25] <bigbash> ok cool, its old.  ah the joys of sna and mainframe
[16:34] <bludude> Bye, everyone. Heading off to school registration
[18:13] <h00k> http://www.howtogeek.com/geekers/up/sshot4e4a0ce615c80.png
[18:52] <bigbash> h00k, that gave me a good laugh
[20:17] <bigbash> hi ripps
[20:19] <bigbash> I was told that I might want to talk to you about try to port something from an old version of ubuntu to current
[20:26] <h00k> ripps: I maybe spilled you've done packaging...
[22:38] <bigbash> h00k forgot to ask you, will you be around Sept 4 to possibly help mentor for Bug Jam?
[22:39]  * bigbash will be back in 1hr
[23:50] <itsatrap> Why isn't this team approved?