[00:00] <awesomeness> babaei, u r so kind:) let me read it but i believe i don't have any of them (of course it they dont come with this operation system automatically)
[00:00] <delac> urlin2u: bascialy, but what I ment is that the root privileges are not "on" on default.
[00:01] <Daemonik> Gentoo64, Using 2.6.35-30-generic, nvidia-current
[00:01] <urlin2u> delac, how long have you been using open source?
[00:01] <delac> urlin2u: why is no one else worried about program suddenly starting to ask root password without any apparent reason? :(
[00:01] <delac> urlin2u: a while (few years)
[00:01] <Gentoo64> delac, what asks for root password?
[00:01] <delac> Gentoo64: usb-creator
[00:02] <urlin2u> delac, you are on another planet is why basically ;-)
[00:02] <Gentoo64> because it needs root priveledges?
[00:02] <Gentoo64> and it does gksu automatically?
[00:02] <delac> Gentoo64: it did not on ubuntu 9.10. I just checked
[00:02] <Gentoo64> delac, run it from terminal as user
[00:03] <urlin2u> delac, you needed sudo in 9.10 just like I do in natty.
[00:03] <delac> Gentoo64: I did check that no "grace" time was on
[00:03] <Gentoo64> delac, does it work, as user from terminal?
[00:04] <Gentoo64> delac, you need root priv to format usb etc
[00:05] <delac> Gentoo64: it doesnt ask any password even from command line
[00:05] <babaei> awesomeness: those two packages I listed should be something you can get from Synaptic
[00:05] <Gentoo64> as  anormal user?
[00:06] <Gentoo64> delac, well it wont ask for a password from terminal...
[00:06] <delac> Gentoo64: as normal user (who is sudoer)
[00:06] <Gentoo64> delac, whats the actual problem?
[00:06] <stunkie> bye
[00:06] <Gentoo64> delac, yea, because running a  program as a user is different from running gksu program
[00:06] <Gentoo64> or sudo
[00:07] <Cortex> I'm having problems with Ubuntu acting slow on my laptop. it worked perfect before
[00:07] <delac> Gentoo64: i'm just wondering why it (usb-creator) started asking for the password after some update on ubuntu 10.10
[00:07] <Cortex> anyone know how I can fix it?
[00:07] <DebiansArmy> cortex version
[00:07] <Gentoo64> delac, when you click on usb creator icon?
[00:07] <Cortex> DebiansArmy: 11.04, I think. I use the Classic mode
[00:07] <Tim55> i have a problem with ubuntu
[00:08] <zelda> How would I remove Ubuntu and Grub to make the computer default to other OS?
[00:08] <delac> Gentoo64: no, when I try to either "Erase Disk" or "Make Startup Disk "
[00:09] <Gentoo64> delac, thats because it needs root priveledges for that
[00:09] <The_Rufus> does anyone here have any experience in installing a Highpoint Rocket RAID driver on ubuntu server 11?
[00:09] <Cortex> Even my internet is acting slow, and it's a pretty fast one
[00:09] <Gentoo64> delac, why does it bother you?
[00:09] <delac> Gentoo64: because the thing started to ask me root privileges suddenly, without any good reason
[00:10] <Gentoo64> delac, its nothing to worry about..
[00:10] <delac> Gentoo64: it just got me worried
[00:10] <zelda> How would I remove Ubuntu and Grub to make the computer default to other OS?
[00:10] <Gentoo64> zelda, what other os?
[00:10] <Gentoo64> windows?
[00:10] <delac> Gentoo64: well, apparently it is something that everyone is suffering from, so it might be legitimate
[00:10] <zelda> Yes
[00:10] <Gentoo64> delac, asking for root priv to format a usb stick is no security issue
[00:11] <Cortex> Should I just flatout install Ubuntu again?
[00:11] <Gentoo64> zelda, delete the uubntu partition, and reinstall win bootloader
[00:11] <zelda> Im getting rid of Ubuntu cause I cant get my HDMI to work.
[00:11] <zelda> Gentoo Thanks
[00:11] <Gentoo64> ok
[00:11] <DebiansArmy> delac: Wow, lol its a usb stick??
[00:12] <zelda> Is there a date in Oct with 11.10 is coming?
[00:12] <Gentoo64> 11th?
[00:12] <Gentoo64> idk
[00:12] <bazhang> zelda, no
[00:12] <bazhang> zelda, 11.10 discussion is in #ubuntu+1 by the way
[00:12] <zelda> can someone help fix my HDMI issue? The computer doesnt see it
[00:12] <rww> zelda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[00:12] <Cortex> ah, anyone know how I can fix Ubuntu from acting slow on my laptop?
[00:13] <Gentoo64> Cortex, thats too vague
[00:13] <zelda> RWW sweet! thanks
[00:13] <bazhang> Cortex, need more details
[00:13] <Gentoo64> Cortex, does dmesg say anything
[00:13] <Cortex> dmesg? I don't know what that is, sorry
[00:13] <Gentoo64> Cortex, run it from a terminal
[00:13] <delac> Gentoo64: well, I dont really know what it is using the root password for. I mean, Writing the bootable disk doesnt require it. First thing that came to my mind is that it is trying to write to some other disk that does require root privileges. Like /
[00:13] <Cortex> Ubuntu is acting slow with everything. Programs, music, internet, everything is slow. It was p perfect before
[00:14] <Gentoo64> before what?
[00:14] <Gentoo64> delac, no idea i dont use usb creator :s sorry. surely youd know if it was writing to / or not?
[00:14] <Cortex> I haven't used the laptop in three months,, so I don't know what's the problem here
[00:14] <delac> Gentoo64: well, afterwards I would ;)
[00:15] <tripelb> What is error -71 and how could I find that out for myself: context: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 58  (newline) [449024.716024] usb 4-2.1: device not accepting address 58, error -71 (newline) [449024.718061] hub 4-2:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1  AND does enumerate mean mount?
[00:15] <Gentoo64> delac, doesnt it tell you in the gui? i doubt itd do anything to root
[00:15] <th0r> Cortex: do you run a system monitor of some sort...conky, gkrellm?
[00:15] <Cortex> th0r: nope
[00:16] <Gentoo64> Cortex, run top what does the cpu etc say
[00:16] <th0r> cortex: at least, open a terminal, run top, and see if you are loading the cpu or memory
[00:16] <delac> Gentoo64: well, of course it should not, in any circumstances, but if a bug struck...
[00:16] <Cortex> ok, let me check
[00:16] <Gentoo64> delac, your being over paranoid
[00:16] <ProstheticS> this isnt really an ubuntu specific question, but anyhow , ive lost a partition, what tools are available to do file recovery  (hopefully whole partition recovery, but if not , file will do)
[00:16] <Gentoo64> "if a bug struck"... any root running app could have a bug
[00:17] <Cortex> ran top. what should I be looking at/for in here?
[00:17] <Gentoo64> Cortex, cpu use
[00:17] <delac> Gentoo64: and that is why I was worried. a program that erases a disk starts to ask me root privileges even when it doesnt need it. it is pretty alarming
[00:17] <Jordan_U> delac: I already told you what it requires root permissions for. Writing to the mbr.
[00:17] <th0r> ckr]]\\
[00:18] <Gentoo64> delac, gparted requires root
[00:18] <Cortex> Gentoo64: it says 97.7% us, the rest for sy
[00:18] <DebiansArmy> delac: Do you understand linux structure. Would get a kernel error more then likely... If it security issue use firewall, virus scanner
[00:18] <Gentoo64> DebiansArmy, virus scanner?
[00:18] <DebiansArmy> delac: ssh tunelling
[00:18] <Gentoo64> do you understand linux structure?
[00:18] <delac> Jordan_U: so it didnt write the mbr earlier? and why is the mbr written now?
[00:19] <Gentoo64> delac, post a screenshot or something please
[00:19] <DebiansArmy> Gentoo64: just trying to put person at ease... If there worried
[00:19] <Gasseus> how do I get empathy use a socks proxy?
[00:19] <delac> Gentoo64: of what?
[00:19] <Cortex> Gentoo64: what does that usage of cpu mean? is it normal?
[00:19] <Gentoo64> 97% is bad, if nothing is running...
[00:20] <Cortex> all i'm running is Chrome
[00:20] <Gentoo64> Cortex, what program is using that? itl say next to it
[00:20] <DebiansArmy> Gentoo64: Maybe we can put up a barbwire fence around the terminal...
[00:20] <Jordan_U> delac: The easiest and most reliable way to determine that the correct bits are in the mbr is to write them to the mbr. It could read them from the mbr and not write if nothing needed to be changed, but reading from the mbr *also requires root privileges*.
[00:20] <Gasseus> there's your problem
[00:20] <jack____> Is there a way to tell which source apt-get is pulling a package from?
[00:20] <jack____> or which source it was installed from?
[00:20] <Cortex> Gentoo64: under command it says "indicator-apple"
[00:20] <zykotick9> jack____, "apt-cache policy FOO"
[00:20] <th0r> Cortex: hit Shift-P, it will sort by processor usage
[00:20] <Gentoo64> Cortex, chrome shouldnt use cpu. im on chrome and xchat and cpu is less than 1%
[00:20] <DebiansArmy> cortex top -m
[00:21] <Gentoo64> Cortex, sounds dodgy
[00:21] <ProstheticS> this isnt really an ubuntu specific question, but anyhow , ive lost a ext4 partition, what tools are available to do file recovery  (hopefully whole partition recovery, but if not , file will do)
[00:21] <Gentoo64> lol
[00:21] <Jordan_U> delac: There is no way around a program like unetbootin requiring root privileges.
[00:21] <Gentoo64> ProstheticS, how idd you "lose" it?
[00:21] <K-Rich> HEY ALL
[00:21] <Cortex> Gentoo64: dodgy?
[00:21] <jack____> is there a way to spit out which PPAs are configured from the cmdline?
[00:21] <ProstheticS> gentoo it had not long started a 'move ' in gparted when someone knocked the keyboard off the bed and hit the cancel key
[00:22] <Gentoo64> Cortex, sudo killall indicator-apple, see if it speeds up
[00:22] <ProstheticS> i think that the partition has been relabelled, infacti  can see it has
[00:22] <zykotick9> ProstheticS, check out testdisk
[00:22] <ProstheticS> but i doubt its been corrupted much
[00:22] <ProstheticS> its 2tb of data
[00:22] <ProstheticS> will test disk do the above zyko?
[00:22] <spo0kz> is there a linux equivalent to Traktor....
[00:22] <Sonne> greetings!
[00:22] <Sonne> is it possible to install sun java6 plugin on natty amd64?
[00:22] <qin> spo0kz: mixxxx
[00:22] <qin> *mixxx
[00:22] <Gentoo64> Sonne, yes
[00:22] <orkim2> spo0kz: mixx
[00:22] <DebiansArmy> cortex how large is your swap partition??? How long has this computer been on???
[00:22] <spo0kz> nice nice !
[00:23] <Sonne> Gentoo64, any tips on that?
[00:23] <Gentoo64> i dont know the name of it
[00:23] <Gentoo64> lol
[00:23] <Sonne> i can't see any sun-java6 packages in the repositories
[00:23] <zykotick9> !java | Sonne
[00:23] <Sonne> seen that
[00:23] <Cortex> DebiansArmy: not sure, should i post a pic of what the terminal is showing?
[00:23] <Sonne> nothing on partner repository either
[00:23] <qin> spo0kz: There is one more (neat one) on source forge, java based, but never tried it.
[00:23] <Gentoo64> Cortex, yes
[00:23] <delac> Jordan_U: that is odd, as on ubuntu 9.10 the usb-creator doesnt seem to require root privileges
[00:23] <Cortex> Gentoo64: doesn't seem to work. "sudo kill-all: command not found" just pops up
[00:24] <Gentoo64> Cortex, its killall
[00:24] <Gentoo64> one word
[00:24] <DebiansArmy> Gentoo64: pastebin... not a pick of terminal
[00:24] <Gentoo64> i like pic
[00:24] <Gentoo64> s
[00:24] <spo0kz> qin: the software list never ceases to amaze, really
[00:24] <The_Rufus> can anybody help me with installing a rocketraid controller on U11server?
[00:24] <The_Rufus> please/
[00:24] <The_Rufus> ?
[00:24] <Jordan_U> delac: Are you sure that wasn't just you misinterpreting not being asked for a password (due to gksudo remembering your authentication) again?
[00:24] <DebiansArmy> Gentoo64: Lol ;0
[00:25] <delac> Jordan_U: I'm sure it is not that
[00:25] <Gentoo64> delac, let it rest lol
[00:25] <Jordan_U> delac: And how are you sure it is not that?
[00:25] <Gentoo64> your acting like the worlds ogna end
[00:25] <Cortex> Gentoo64: "indicator-apple not found"
[00:26] <Cortex> ok, let me post a screen and show you
[00:26] <Gentoo64> Cortex, post a screenshot of top please
[00:26] <zykotick9> Cortex, indicator-appleT
[00:26] <Gentoo64> oh
[00:26] <Gentoo64> lol
[00:26] <Gentoo64> i thought it was some dodgy apple prog
[00:26] <Cortex> with a t?
[00:26] <Gentoo64> either way, shouldnt be using 97% cpu
[00:26] <delac> Jordan_U: I tried to open synaptic before I opened the usb-creator. The synaptic did ask for password. (I didnt give it).
[00:27] <jack____> is there a way to get `aptitude search` or `apt-cache search` to dispaly current versions
[00:27] <Gentoo64> jack____, maybe there not in ubuntu repos?
[00:27] <jack____> Gentoo64, what?
[00:27] <Pici> jack____: What do you mean by 'current versions' ?
[00:27] <Gentoo64> oh you mean versions of installed apps?
[00:27] <qin> jack____: dpkg -L <package>
[00:27] <Cortex> ok, it worked and is asking me to reload the program/whatever it is. should I?
[00:27] <zykotick9> jack____, apt-cache policy FOO
[00:27] <jack____> Pici, current version _in the repo_
[00:28] <Gentoo64> Cortex, does your comp seem faster?
[00:28] <Pici> jack____: apt-cache show has a version line.
[00:28] <jack____> picasso, ++
[00:28] <jack____> pici`++
[00:28] <Gentoo64> Cortex, when did you last reboot btw?
[00:28] <Jordan_U> delac: Did you actually successfully use usb-creator without entering a password? Do you realize that policykit is separate from gksudo and has more fine grained control over remembering authentication for specific actions?
[00:28] <Cortex> Gentoo64: reboot? as in restart?
[00:28] <Gentoo64> yes
[00:29] <intrader> Anyone, printing on ubuntu? I used to in 9.04 - once I went to 10.10, I had not printed; I don't know how to set it up
[00:29] <picasso> thanks jack____!
[00:29] <jack____> yeah picasso. free karma
[00:29] <Cortex> Gentoo64: not really
[00:29] <FerretWithASpork> Is it possible to get rid of the deadzone caused by using TwinView with different resolutions? Or at least stop the mouse from going there?
[00:29] <picasso> karma for picasso:
[00:30] <Gentoo64> Cortex, when di you last reboot?
[00:30] <Gentoo64> "not really" ?
[00:30] <Gentoo64> lol
[00:30] <delac> Jordan_U: I logged in to the desktop (gave password there). Tried the synaptic (it asked for password). Then ran the usb-creator and made the bootable disk. Never giving the password.
[00:30] <zykotick9> FerretWithASpork, i never found a way, hopefully you'll have more luck
[00:30] <bazhang> !lol > Gentoo64
[00:31] <qin> picasso: -- (karma police)
[00:31] <Cortex> Gentoo64: earlier today
[00:31] <Gentoo64> Cortex, did it go slow earlier?
[00:31] <zykotick9> qin, ok Radiohead
[00:31] <Cortex> Gentoo64: yes
[00:31] <Cortex> ok,  here's the screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/ZBNkp.jpg
[00:31] <jack____> is there a way to display all packages in a certain repo?
[00:32] <Chiche> guenas a todos
[00:32] <Gentoo64> Cortex, no idea why indicator applet is using that cpu. did killing it make it faster?
[00:32] <Jordan_U> delac: It's possible that you selected to permanently remember usb-creator's authentication (if usb-creator uses policykit rather than gksudo).
[00:32] <qin> jack____: Most easy in synaltic, left bottom offering filters
[00:32] <qin> *synaptic
[00:32] <jack____> qin, any cmdline equivalent?
[00:32] <delac> Jordan_U: hmm, is that resetable?
[00:33] <Jordan_U> delac: If that's the case then I think creating a new test user and trying to use usb-creator from that user would test that theory.
[00:33] <The_Rufus> how can I change the resolution of bash? I'm running server so it's terminal only (NO XWINDOWS) but no matter how I set my monitor, I can't see the first 10 characters
[00:33] <Jordan_U> delac: I'm sure it is but I don't know how off hand. I'm looking now though.
[00:33] <Cortex> Gentoo64: i though I killed it but it seems to still be on when I see TOP again
[00:33] <Gentoo64> Cortex, did you choose "yes" to reload it?
[00:34] <Cortex> Gentoo64: No, I didn't. Should I?
[00:34] <Gentoo64> no
[00:34] <Gentoo64> try killall again
[00:34] <qin> jack____: not sure, will lurk into dpkg and apt man
[00:34] <Gentoo64> Cortex, keep top runing
[00:34] <Gentoo64> see if it pops up again
[00:34] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, i imagine indicator-applet will auto respawn
[00:34] <moonunitzappa> hello everyone, im setting up a media pc in my living room, got natty on it. wondering if anyone can suggest some programs and free clouds that can help me
[00:34] <Gentoo64> prob a bug in it?
[00:35] <Gentoo64> why would it use all that cpu
[00:35] <Cortex> Gentoo64: ok, let me try
[00:35] <Gentoo64> could be a bug anywhere...
[00:35] <devral> how can i rename the useracct ubuntu server created when I installed it?
[00:35] <urlin2u> moonunitzappa, seen dweezil lately?
[00:36] <moonunitzappa> ha
[00:36] <Cortex> Gentoo64: when I try to kill it again, it says it's not found
[00:36] <urlin2u> or ahmed
[00:36] <Cortex> but it's still popping up in top
[00:36] <devral> i tried `usermod -l` but i'm currently logged in...
[00:36] <delac> Jordan_U: well, it seems that even non sudoer can make bootable usb sticks on 9.10
[00:37] <Gentoo64> Cortex, is this on 11.04? if so is it classic mode?
[00:37] <wildbat> devral: create a new one first.
[00:37] <Cortex> Gentoo64: yeah, classic mode
[00:37] <Cortex> Gentoo64: might that be the problem?
[00:37] <Gentoo64> i dont think so
[00:37] <moonunitzappa> can anyone point me to a chan where i can get help getting my natty box set up for a media center, and get some cool themes and whatnot
[00:37] <Gentoo64> thats normally the good safe one
[00:37] <Gentoo64> Cortex, i have no idea :s
[00:37] <The_Rufus> gah, i must be invisible. or nobody is willing to help. I'll install something other than ubuntu then
[00:37] <sevith> SSH runs default listening on ipv6?
[00:38] <sevith> The_Rufus what do you need?
[00:38] <sevith> whoops too late.
[00:38] <moonunitzappa> haha
[00:38] <qin> jack____: I guess aptitude
[00:38] <sevith> wheres sshd configs at?
[00:38] <sevith> i know im lame..i forget things easily lol
[00:38] <Pici> sevith: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[00:38] <Gentoo64> sevith, etc ssh
[00:38] <sevith> ha
[00:38] <sevith> found em as you said that :P
[00:39] <sevith> TY though.
[00:39] <DebiansArmy> Gentoo64: Found a post to cortez explaining indicator-apple rises with the Pidgin Facebook plugin....
[00:39] <Jordan_U> delac: Can you pastebin the output of "ls /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/"?
[00:39] <ObrienDave> moonunitzappa: you can try ubuntu studio. it has BUNCHES of multimedia stuff
[00:39] <sevith> OK slight problem just wondering if anyone else experiences the same thing. Sometimes when i boot it says the indicator applet on my taskbar crashed or something and gives me the option to delete it
[00:39] <sevith> why does this happen? Never happened before until i upgrade to 11. i dont use unity i use the classic
[00:39] <Cortex> Gentoo64: what exactly is indicator-applet, btw? what does it do/should do?
[00:40] <moonunitzappa> i already have natty on it. is there a way to grab it without fresh install?  also are there any UI or themes i can get other than the stock ones?
[00:40] <Gentoo64> Cortex, i dont know. i think its the little icon bit
[00:40] <sevith> It just shows attention for things needed on your desktop and most importantly i use it for my wifi connections
[00:40] <sevith> its like my wifi crashes or something..
[00:40] <eugeneeeeee> cam show going on in #he_reigns sick stuff
[00:41] <th0r> cortez: it is a relatively new addition to gnome. It combines the balloon messages for pidgin, evolution, and other messaging software into one item on the panel
[00:41] <ObrienDave> moonunitzappa: let me look at something real quick. brb
[00:41] <zykotick9> Cortex, it's the ubuntu specific notification area in the top right of panel
[00:41] <sevith> Yea and it constantly crashes in 11.
[00:41] <Cortex> zykotick9: ah. yeah, that's not showing up on mine
[00:41] <Cortex> that' AFTER killing it
[00:41] <zykotick9> Cortex, probably because it's crashed/in the process of crashing
[00:42] <Cortex> ah.
[00:42] <pooltable> gentoo64 can you recommand a multi torrent search for google chrome?
[00:42] <sevith> lol
[00:42] <Gentoo64> pooltable, a website?
[00:42] <delac> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/668738/
[00:42] <Cortex> I do remember something about the wireless networks thing not working anymore
[00:42] <Cortex> but I don't use that. I'm connected through ethernet
[00:42] <moonunitzappa> how do you replay to somebody quickly. rather than typeing their name?
[00:42] <pooltable> gentoo64 yes is there a extebsion?
[00:43] <Pici> !tab | moonunitzappa
[00:43] <zykotick9> !tab > moonunitzappa
[00:43] <Cortex> moonunitzappa: type the start of the name and then tab
[00:43] <sevith> Cortex, Was it something specific to 11.04
[00:43] <Gentoo64> pooltable, theres loads of torrent sits
[00:43] <Jordan_U> delac: Can you pastebin the contents of /usr/share/polkit-1/com.ubuntu.usbcreator.policy ?
[00:43] <Cortex> sevith: what do you mean? the wireless thing?
[00:43] <sevith> Cortex, Yes
[00:44] <Cortex> sevith: if you mean if I'm using 11.04, yes. using classic mode
[00:44] <ObrienDave> moonunitzappa: search synaptic for ubuntustudio-desktop
[00:44] <sevith> Cortex, Cuz i use it alot of my laptop but i have to reboot at least 5 times before it works right without crashing...its pretty annoying...makes me wanna install windows :O!
[00:45] <Cortex> ok, i'm going to reboot and see if this happens again
[00:45] <moonunitzappa> awesome ty ObrienDave
[00:46] <ObrienDave> moonunitzappa: np
[00:46] <delac> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/668743/
[00:46] <sevith> ok SSHD configs say nothing about ipv6 but i want it to stop listening on ipv6
[00:46] <sevith> unless i missed it?
[00:46] <Jordan_U> delac:       <allow_active>yes</allow_active>
[00:46] <delac> Jordan_U: yes, what does that mean?
[00:47] <zykotick9> moonunitzappa, for an HTPC perhaps check out MythTV, but it's not the easiest to setup I'm afraid
[00:47] <pooltable> gentoo64 i got it thanks
[00:47] <Jordan_U> delac: That means that authorisation for that action will be given without requiring a password to any user who is "active" (at a physical keyboard / mouse).
[00:47] <sevith> NEVER mind.
[00:48] <pooltable> gentoo64 i use chrome to firefox is fix
[00:48] <don-i> i recently got 2 routers and set them as wds. I have a windows machine and ubuntu machine. The windows has internet the ubuntu machine does not
[00:48] <DebiansArmy> Ubuntu's Indicator-Applet project – which aims to make panel application entries behave consistently  – is pretty neat.
[00:48] <joallard> I had problems with my nvidia drivers and went to version 173 using "Additional drivers" window. Now I think X won't start back up again. How do I revert?
[00:48] <moonunitzappa> zykotick9: nice, good idea
[00:48] <don-i> any idea where i should look ?
[00:49] <Cortex> ok, rebooted. applet is still running at 1 hour or so now
[00:49] <ObrienDave> moonunitzappa: search synaptic for ubuntustudio. you will find packages for audio, video, graphics.
[00:49] <vantom> does anyone here speak korean?
[00:49] <Pici> !ko
[00:49] <zykotick9> joallard, where you using current before?  perhaps "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" from a CLI?
[00:49] <delac> Jordan_U: ok, I cant remember if that is something I have set, or if it has been default. althoug I highly doubt I would have changed anything that has such security ramifications
[00:49] <vantom> thankyou
[00:49] <Jordan_U> delac: If you change it to "auth_admin" or "auth_admin_keep" instead of "yes" then you will be prompted for a password.
[00:50] <DebiansArmy> cortex I've read other posts on Indicator applet being high and overheats CPU.... extremely bad....
[00:50] <sevith> Cortex, Really? Mine always crashes and i cant even use a hardwired connection.....Wireless is brought down with it...Maybe its a driver issues but iv never had this problem until i upgrade to 11 from 10. Now it happens all the time
[00:50] <joallard> zykotick9: I'll try that. I had forgotten I kind of "removed" the 'current' drivers.
[00:50] <Jordan_U> delac: Here is a the same file from a default 11.04 install (there have also been many translations added since 9.10) : http://paste.debian.net/126563/
[00:51] <Guest63648> Boa noite
[00:51] <Cortex> The weirdest part is that now it says that I've been using it for close to three hours when a minute ago it says an hour and a half
[00:51] <sevith> Bah iptables ? Who uses them?
[00:51] <sevith> I love them.
[00:51] <kingofswords> hi ive just added ppa https://launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/ppa but only 3 programs are showing and there should be 4
[00:51] <dasboot> Hi all.  Is there any way to find out what is making the mousecursor interminably pinwheel? gnome,10.04
[00:52] <delac> Jordan_U: I wonder why they changed it? is there some security related issues with just using "yes"?
[00:52] <moonunitzappa> how can i select all of the pakags in syn. im quite new to ubuntu
[00:52] <kingofswords> is there s'thing im missing?
[00:52] <Cortex> should I just reinstall ubuntu and hope this fixes the problem?
[00:52] <Guest63648> Quit marcelo
[00:52] <Cortex> is there any way to directly reinstall ubuntu ?
[00:53] <sevith> Cortex, ? Whats the issue?
[00:53] <Cortex> sevith: indicator-applet keeps using up a lot of cpu. 90% +
[00:53] <Jordan_U> delac: They removed the checkbox allowing you to permanently allow authorization for a given action in policykit in general. I don't know for sure what the default settin for usb-creator in 9.10 was.
[00:54] <qin> Cortex: Is it unity?
[00:54] <joallard> It's still not starting up. I see that "Stopping automatic crash report generation" returned [fail]. How can I find out the cause?
[00:54] <sevith> Cortex, I see...Im having issues with the same indicator applet. It keeps crashing on mine
[00:54] <Cortex> qin: I'm using 11.04 in classic mode
[00:54] <ObrienDave> moonunitzappa: just click the little box to the left of the packages and mark for installation. it will then show you the required packages that will be automatically downloaded and instaled
[00:54] <moonunitzappa> ObrienDave: should i install all of those under ubuntustudio
[00:54] <sevith> my CPU % is ok though
[00:54] <sevith> heats fine
[00:55] <DebiansArmy> Cortex found what it is???? Indicator-Applet refers to the system tray or To ubuntu notifactions... Have you switched or edited the indicator-applet????
[00:55] <qin> Cortex: Alt-F2, gnome-panel --replace, as far asi know it will restart indicarotrs too
[00:55] <ObrienDave> moonunitzappa: not all at once. i suggest doing one at a time then reboot after each one.
[00:55] <moonunitzappa> theres like 20 haha
[00:56] <Cortex> DebiansArmy: i don't think so i haven't done anything
[00:56] <traskers> Running Openbox, just ugpraded to 3.5.0 and my autostart no longer loads at login, can anyone help me fix this?
[00:56] <sevith> ctrl+alt+backspace :P
[00:56] <sevith> lol
[00:56] <sevith> alt+f1
[00:56] <sevith> fk the GUI
[00:56] <FloodBot1> sevith: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:56] <ObrienDave> moonunitzappa: yea i know. you only need to do -desktop -audio -video, etc.
[00:56] <bazhang> ObrienDave, there is zero reason to reboot after installing a package from there
[00:56] <qin> sevith: Medicine?
[00:56] <Jordan_U> delac: Indeed, looking at a 9.10 package the default was in fact "yes".
[00:56] <Cortex> DebiansArmy: well, when I rebooted it said my network was using a .local domain and would shut down the app (not sure which one though)
[00:57] <sevith> qin, Lol.
[00:57] <moonunitzappa> ok ty ObrienDave going to go try ti
[00:57] <DebiansArmy> Cortex try what qin is asking that might work
[00:57] <Cortex> qin: did it and it said it had a problem with indicator-applet and if i wanted to delete it
[00:57] <Cortex> DebiansArmy: just did.
[00:57] <ObrienDave> moonunitzappa: wlcm
[00:57] <ObrienDave> bazhang: yea, but safer.
[00:58] <bazhang> moonunitzappa, install as many as you wish, the ubuntustudio-desktop package will bring most in; there is no reason to reboot after installing a single package
[00:58] <bazhang> ObrienDave, in no way at all.
[00:58] <sevith> Does anyone use compiz?
[00:58] <ObrienDave> bazhang: ok, whatever
[00:58] <bazhang> sevith, whats the actual question
[00:58] <joallard> I can't get my system to boot after changing a driver. Installing it back doesn't work. I think it might be the X server, but can't tell. How do I find out the cause?
[00:59] <bazhang> ObrienDave, please be more careful before offering such advice
[00:59] <sevith> bazhang, 11.04 broke compiz and my wireless along with my wired connections.
[00:59] <qin> Cortex: Right click on panel and: Add to panel, this will show you what indicator you have installed, so you can "reattach" faulty one, or !resetpanel
[00:59] <bazhang> sevith, broke? as in cannot use unity?
[00:59] <delac> Jordan_U: so, the question is, why the change? but, at least now I know that thecurrent situation is by design and not some usb-creator malfunction. thank you!
[00:59] <ObrienDave> bazhang: being safe is bad advice???
[00:59] <sevith> bazhang, Its the indicator applet. it fails. When it crashes it brings down my network interfaces too for some reason.
[00:59] <sevith> bazhang, I dont use unity. I dont like it at all.
[00:59] <bazhang> ObrienDave, rebooting after installing a single package is bad advice, and no way safer.
[01:00] <ObrienDave> bazhang: how do you figure?
[01:00] <bazhang> ObrienDave, completely unnecessary. lets move on please.
[01:00] <Cortex> qin: ok, it's showing me four different kinds of the indicator-applet
[01:01] <ObrienDave> bazhang: ok, whatever
[01:01] <zykotick9> ObrienDave, please be aware the bazhang is correct in this matter and you are incorrect
[01:01] <qin>  02:01:36 up 58 days, 23:12,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[01:01] <qin> ups
[01:02] <zykotick9> qin, you haven't had any kernel updates in 58 days?  that's almost hard to believe.
[01:02] <qin> zykotick9: No.
[01:02] <zykotick9> qin, wow
[01:04] <qin> zykotick9: Experimenting with ksplice
[01:04] <Cortex> is there any way i can directly reinstall ubuntu and see if this fixes the indicator-applet problem?
[01:04] <zykotick9> qin, not for long.... :(
[01:05] <qin> !resetpanel | Cortex this will remove any modification from panel
[01:05] <ObrienDave> zykotick9: sorry, I'm not arguing about wether it is correct or not correct to reboot after installing. imho it is safer.
[01:05] <qin> zykotick9: Why?
[01:05] <zykotick9> qin, ksplic will be Oracle only soon
[01:05] <DebiansArmy> qin 2 years ago I see there was a lot of complaints about going to a applet indicator ... Users expressing uses to many resources and had the potential for cpu overload...
[01:06] <zykotick9> ObrienDave, you are free to have any incorrect opinion you wish, just don't share them ;)
[01:06] <qin> DebiansArmy: Unaware of it, using tint2
[01:07] <Cortex> ubottu: did that, the top panel isn't popping up now
[01:07] <jasongriffee> How would I remove the ubuntu logo and computer name from the login screen
[01:07] <Cortex> qin: resetpanel?
[01:07] <Cortex> i did what ubottu told me to
[01:07] <DebiansArmy> qin users expressed to many notifactions and  were not needed when Unplugging usb drive...
[01:08] <joallard> How do I diagnose a boot problem?
[01:09] <breath> Heloooooooooooo Guys !! Okéé I'm aa Programmer And I need a Tool That modify text files ! Like when i want to make changes ( Exemple I want to change all the return=0 with return=1  so i need a tool to change them all ) HELP HELP HELP
[01:09] <muelli> breath: sed is your friend
[01:09] <breath> muelli : but u remain my best friends thanks i love u bye ;)
[01:09] <muelli> breath: maybe smth like sed -i 's/return=0/return=1/g' *.foo
[01:10] <joallard> breath: Text editors depend on your preferences. Do you prefer something more simple and graphical or something more complex?
[01:10] <qin> zykotick9: I guess You right. /exec sudo reboot
[01:10] <muelli> oh, didn't know it is so easy to become best friends :-)
[01:10] <Cortex> damn it, what do i do now?
[01:11] <cgroza> breath: you can achieve that with Emacs(recommended) or vim.
[01:11] <bazhang> Cortex, what is the exact issue with the indicator applet
[01:12] <breath> MmM I'm not Good at english LooL didn't understand what u said joallard :-( :( but i heard a lot bout sed and muelli advissed me with it :)
[01:12] <babaei> breath: the built-in text editor with Ubuntu (gedit) includes a "find and replace" feature, as does pretty much any editor.
[01:12] <jasongriffee> How would I remove the ubuntu logo and computer name from the login screen?
[01:12] <breath> i don't like vim ( i donnow how to quit it :t :t :t ) xD
[01:12] <babaei> breath: type in ":q!"
[01:12] <Cortex> bazhang: using too much cpu.
[01:12] <DebiansArmy> bazhang: holding at 70% usage when running top http://i.imgur.com/ZBNkp.jpg
[01:12] <babaei> you might have to mash <esc> a few times first
[01:13] <kingofswords> what does ./ mean?
[01:13] <babaei> kingofswords: "in the current directory"
[01:13] <zykotick9> breath, :q! will quite without saving!  use ":wq" to save and quit
[01:13] <kingofswords> ahh thx
[01:13] <breath> Thanks babaei in tutorials i can see just :q i try it no work !! the last ! escaped ;( ;(
[01:13] <joallard> breath: Sorry for that. Like babaei said, gedit is nice for simple stuff. If you want something a little more programming-oriented, I personally like geany.
[01:14] <bazhang> Cortex, what other processes do you have running, ie major ones
[01:14] <joallard> breath: By any chance, what's your primary language?
[01:14] <Cortex> not much else, just Chrome
[01:14] <kingofswords> im trying to run a script but when i run .chmod +x winepulse_installer.sh
[01:14] <kingofswords> ./winepulse_installer.sh second line does run
[01:14] <bazhang> Cortex, and this persists, when you create a guest account?
[01:14] <Arti_12> Issues with an GPX Mp4 device, I loaded it with several mp3 files and it is not playing when I tell it to play it is showing "NAND No Files"
[01:14] <DebiansArmy> bazhang: http://i.imgur.com/ZBNkp.jpg thats a screenshot of cortex terminal
[01:15] <bazhang> DebiansArmy, yes, no need to repaste, thanks
[01:15] <breath> Arabic ;) LooL In my language there's no 2 words for the same meanin
[01:15] <Cortex> bazhang: guest account? haven't made any
[01:15] <breath> Thanks guys helped me a lot :)
[01:15] <babaei> breath: good luck!
[01:15] <rosstaylor> i can't get my sound to work
[01:15] <bazhang> Cortex, that would be  a first step, hardly ever need to completely reinstall for something like this
[01:16] <bazhang> !audio > rosstaylor
[01:17] <joallard> Can't boot. Where do I begin?
[01:17] <jasongriffee> How would I remove the ubuntu logo and computer name from the login screen?
[01:17] <Cortex> bazhang: so I should create a guest account then?
[01:18] <bazhang> Cortex, have you not already done so, and tested it?
[01:18] <traskers> Running Openbox, just ugpraded to 3.5.0 and my autostart no longer loads at login, can anyone help me fix this?
[01:18] <jose> which is the best path to install me own compiled programs (samba,apache..)
[01:18] <escott> jasongriffee, you would have to download and install an alternate gdm theme
[01:18] <jose> ?
[01:18] <DebiansArmy> Cortex if you allow this cpu to run hot like this for long it will burn on cpu...  Might want to go with earlier version of ubuntu or reinstall ubuntu...  Not for one min. would I allow my computer to keep hanging around 100% cpu usage the fan has to be going all the time...
[01:19] <escott> jose, /opt
[01:19] <Tavox> buenas noches
[01:19] <Tavox> me pueden ayudar con algo
[01:19] <jose> escott, opt its for compiled software?
[01:20] <DebiansArmy> Cortex is the fan consistently running ???
[01:20] <Cortex> bazhang: no, i haven't. let me try
[01:20] <UflexSignal> Hello world. This reminds me of the old BBS world.
[01:20] <escott> jose, /opt is traditionally for anything outside of the package management software
[01:20] <Cortex> DebiansArmy: yeah, i hear it running all the time. the laptop isn't hot though
[01:20] <cgroza> jose: /opt
[01:20] <joallard> *sigh*
[01:21] <Cortex> bazhang: so i should log out, make a guest account and log in from there?
[01:21] <jasongriffee> escott: is there a guide for this?
[01:21] <jose> ok thanks :), i dont want problems later with apache, mono paths..only ask for that, thanks cgroza escott
[01:22] <DebiansArmy> Cortex not good feel underneath were the cpu and gpu are that will tell me how hot this is ...  This could cause fan burn out and kill cpu rare... still it is no good... When you rebot is dues the fan startup right away???
[01:22] <Monotoko[iOS]> Jose, you shouldn't have any problems if the other programs know where apache is
[01:23] <Cortex> DebiansArmy: yes it does
[01:23] <jose> cool i go to do that, thanks 4 all
[01:23] <bazhang> Cortex, system---administration---users and groups---add  log out, log in with new user
[01:23] <escott> jasongriffee, don't know of one off hand. also 11.10 is planning to switch to lightdm so if you plan to upgrade you might want to wait before changing the theme
[01:24] <DebiansArmy> Cortex not good I don't know how old the machine is ,but if this is new I would reinstall or face burning up cpu....
[01:24] <rosstaylor> bazhang : thank you!
[01:24] <bazhang> DebiansArmy, a reinstall is the last step, not the first one
[01:24] <Cortex> bazhang: ok, will do
[01:25] <Cortex> DebiansArmy: it's an old laptop, still....
[01:25] <Cortex> let me try the guest account thing, see how it works
[01:25] <jasongriffee> escott: so the process will be simpler if I wait?
[01:26] <Guest31802> What is the channel for  Ubuntu India Folks ...?
[01:26] <IdleOne> !india
[01:26] <IdleOne> hmm
[01:26] <bazhang> !in | Guest31802
[01:26] <DebiansArmy> bazhang: I agree a 100% ,but Im not going to buy a new laptop for them are u????
[01:26] <Guest31802> !in
[01:26] <Guest31802> Ok , i got in
[01:26] <IdleOne> Guest31802, #ubuntu-in
[01:26] <Guest31802> Thanks ...
[01:26] <bazhang> DebiansArmy, please dont recommend that as a first step
[01:26] <allen_> !Indiana
[01:27] <tbruff13> hey help can someone tell me a program where i can convert decimals to fraction in linux
[01:27] <Guest31802> !in | Guest31802
[01:27] <bazhang> !loco > allen_
[01:27] <DebiansArmy> bazhang: The forum has been working on this problem for about 30 mins 5 different techs.... This has not been the first step by a longshot....
[01:28] <allen_> 10-4
[01:28] <linuxuz3r_> whats 10.4?
[01:28] <linuxuz3r_> 10-4?
[01:28] <devral> is it possible to use freenx-server on Ubuntu Server 10.04?
[01:28] <bazhang> linuxuz3r_, message received
[01:28] <allen_> old radio 10 codes
[01:28] <th0r> DebiansArmy: there is little chance it will overheat the cpu. The chips are designed to run about 90C full time.
[01:29] <eryn_1983_fl_2> I got a quick ? here Need to know if this is STILLL the proper way of setting up wifi in Ubuntu. I  believe i am running 10.10 not sure  at workie.http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking#Debian_.2F_Ubuntu
[01:29] <allen_> 10-4 = message recieved  lol
[01:29] <eryn_1983_fl_2> if not whats the right one? I need to use  this on the cli. From what I under stand this  file ^^  is overwrritten  by networkmanageR??
[01:30] <devral> tmux
[01:30] <speedrunnerG55> hi
[01:31] <eryn_1983_fl_2> do I need configure network amanger somewhere?
[01:31] <eryn_1983_fl_2> networkmanager..
[01:31] <paijem-cantik> eryn: i think that was plug n play
[01:31] <jukebox-zero> What's the proper syntax for checkinstall provides when the package provides more than one thing?
[01:32] <DebiansArmy> th0r: Not even close were did you get this number... I'm a bench tech..... There is no laptop cpu meant to run this high for this long....  at over 80c it is to notify you that your running hot .... Yes I have seen mine run at 90c on a video game, but on a applet no...
[01:33] <dzup> hello i went from maverick to natty, but i found out the gnome is getting slow ...can i not have this new gnome unity or whatever is call ?
[01:33] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall jukebox-zero read this?
[01:33] <eryn_1983_fl_2> no...
[01:33] <eryn_1983_fl_2> its not plug and play I got to cinfugre the wifi
[01:33] <eryn_1983_fl_2> if that were the care it would connect  automaticcally
[01:33] <th0r> DebiansArmy: they run 90C on cpu load, it doesn't matter if it is a video game or an applet. Bench specs are conservative, and even at that, 100% cpu shouldn't push the temps that high if there is any circulation at all. Certainly no reason to panic someone trying to troubleshoot
[01:33] <eryn_1983_fl_2> I got not place for the funkdy  icon
[01:34] <Cortex> bazhang: ah, indicator-applet isn't on anymore
[01:34] <jukebox-zero> bazhang: thanks, will look at it real quick. Google's been surprisingly unfruitful for me on this.
[01:34] <Cortex> cpu usage is fine now for some reason
[01:34] <eryn_1983_fl_2> I got to confiure it cli I got no bar to put a  stupid icon on.
[01:34] <eryn_1983_fl_2> not using  gnome or kde or  fluxbox anymore
[01:34] <bazhang> Cortex, so a video driver issue, or perhaps a theme would be my guess
[01:35]  * speedrunnerG55 high fives CorpX 
[01:35] <eryn_1983_fl_2> so all I need to know is if this is the right config file
[01:35] <speedrunnerG55> oops
[01:35]  * speedrunnerG55 high fives Cortex 
[01:35] <bazhang> speedrunnerG55, not here please
[01:35] <speedrunnerG55> ok bazhang
[01:35] <DebiansArmy> th0r: we also did the conversation wrong 90c = 194F ... wrong conversation 32c = 0f  wrong
[01:36] <Cortex> bazhang: probably. it's fine, now, for the time being
[01:36] <th0r> DebiansArmy: I never did any conversion. and this is getting offtopic
[01:36] <tbruff13> hey help can someone tell me a program where i can convert decimals to fraction in linux
[01:37] <bazhang> DebiansArmy, lets take this chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:37] <jukebox-zero> bazhang: Yeah, no dice. What I'm doing is compiling mplayer and need to specify that it provides both mplayer and mencoder so my command it like so: sudo checkinstall --pkgname=mplayer and --provides= and that's where I'm stuck. I used the prompt checkinstall gives me without the provides command and entered "mplayer mencoder" but it gave me syntax error. Not sure if I need to quote it, or commas. man checkinstall, info ch
[01:37] <jukebox-zero> eckinstall and google are not help so far. You CAN specify more than one provides right?
[01:37] <Cortex> just came back to thank everyone who helped me. bazhang DebiansArmy  and everyone else who put up with my crap
[01:37] <Cortex> thanks a lot guys. gotta go and leave work now
[01:38] <DebiansArmy> Cortex hopefully u have a good night :)
[01:39] <devral> is it possible to use freenx-server on Ubuntu Server 10.04?
[01:39] <MestreLion> i dont get the point in ./configure --prefix=/opt when installing from source. If in Linux an app's files are scattered all over the fs (/usr/bin, /usr/lib, /etc. /var, etc), what is the point in chaging the prefix. What will this change do? What will go to /opt and what will go elsewhere?
[01:39] <bazhang> jukebox-zero, sorry to say I will be of little avail on that subject, please repeat to the channel every so often; I usually get a PPA or the mplayer from medibuntu.org iirc
[01:40] <joallard> I can't boot at init. How do I find the cause?
[01:40] <jukebox-zero> bazhang: no worries, thanks anyway.
[01:41] <Jordan_U> MestreLion: /opt/ (and /usr/local) will include directories like those in your main root, so you will have /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/etc/ .
[01:42] <baha> ubuntu 11.4 with gnome3, is it a good thing to try?
[01:42] <eryn_1983_fl_2> so nobody know my answer?
[01:42] <bazhang> baha NO
[01:42] <jukebox-zero> Does anyone know if you can specify more than one provides in a pkg built with checkinstall, and if so, what's the syntax?
[01:42] <bazhang> !gnome3 | baha
[01:42] <babaei> ^ not fully true. I downgraded it using ppa-purge and it seemed to fully remove it without problems.
[01:42] <qin> q
[01:42] <baha> thanks bazhang
[01:42] <bazhang> baha stay well away from it
[01:43] <MestreLion> Jordan_U: if i choose /opt, ill end up with /opt/bin , /opt/lib, /opt/etc ?
[01:43] <baha> bazhang, maybe debian?
[01:43] <Jordan_U> MestreLion: Yes.
[01:43] <babaei> baha: I tried it a month or so ago. It wasn't fully ready to go, but worked OK. imho, I like Unity better (better use of the screen), but I like both better than the old Gnome.
[01:43] <bazhang> baha no idea, ask in #debian
[01:43] <jasongriffee> i was changing login wallpaper, used something that looked like reg wallpaper changer. now can't stop it from loading on boot?
[01:43] <urlin2u> joallard, here is a boot from cli link. http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20How%20To%20Boot%20From%20CLI%20Mode.html
[01:44] <baha> babaei, bazhang , thanks
[01:44] <babaei> baha: if you want to give it a go, try it from the PPA, but there is a chance you could wreck your install and have to wipe and reinstall.
[01:45] <bazhang> babaei, which is why its completely unsupported here
[01:45] <babaei> bazhang: right.
[01:45] <joallard> urlin2u: thank you. however, I can get past grub, something goes wrong after that
[01:45] <babaei> also, like I said, Unity is better. ;)
[01:46] <urlin2u> joallard, is it a black screen, blinking cursor?
[01:46] <joallard> I have a blinking cursor under lines of text
[01:46] <joallard> Visibly trying-to-boot stuff
[01:47] <joallard> I can Ctrl+Alt+F1 and the root filesystem is mounted
[01:47] <urlin2u> joallard, have you tried reloading grub, and is this a standard booted install, not a wubi install from windows?
[01:47] <DebiansArmy> bazhang: Funny how fast you run off at your 90 degrees celsius comment http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Z-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/CPU-Temperature-90-C-normal-Please-HELP/td-p/3809  Wonder why they express this issue funny and show a computer and laptop needed new thermal paste....  and give pictures ...
[01:48] <jasongriffee> i was changing login wallpaper, used something that looked like reg wallpaper changer. now can't stop it from loading on boot?
[01:48] <joallard> urlin2u: Yes, this is a standard-boot install, not wubi. I don't understand what you mean by "reloading grub"
[01:48] <urlin2u> joallard, you can reload the mbr with grub fairly easy would you like alink?
[01:49] <joallard> urlin2u: I do not think this is necessary. ubuntu gets loaded fine, it just interrupts when it's there. It's not at the grub stage anymore
[01:49] <Tophen> To all the guys that helped me. Thanks. I finally did it. :)
[01:49] <Tophen> Im off now. Cya.
[01:50] <Neroon> Hi everyone
[01:50] <MestreLion> thank you very much Jordan_U... i just checked my /usr/local and /opt.. they are indeed almost empty. /usr/local have a large tree of dozens of dirs... but 90% of them are empty. /opt has no tree, only 4 apps
[01:50] <urlin2u> joallard, okay. ;-)
[01:50] <qin> q
[01:51] <eryn_1983_fl_2> I can't tell did anybody respond to me yet?
[01:51] <Jordan_U> MestreLion: make install will create directories as needed.
[01:52] <bazhang> patience eryn_1983_fl_2
[01:52] <fatih1993> how can i log in to  NickServ?
[01:52] <Neroon> Could someone help me with a small network problem? I can upload any size of file via ftp, but that doesn't work with a browser or mailclient
[01:52] <devral> is it possible to use freenx-server on Ubuntu Server 10.04?
[01:52] <MestreLion> ive never used make install for any app yet... but it looks like the tree in /usr/local is ready for them :)
[01:52] <eryn_1983_fl_2> sorry
[01:52] <bazhang> fatih1993, with your irc client
[01:52] <fatih1993> bazhang, what should i write here?
[01:52] <eryn_1983_fl_2> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager#Command_line I was thinking of doing this  at line Other Desktops and Window Managers
[01:53] <eryn_1983_fl_2> I did try trayer but It didnt pull anything up.  gnome-panel did butnot nm-applet
[01:53] <bazhang> !wireless | eryn_1983_fl_2 have you checked this first
[01:53] <linuxuz3r_> ok
[01:53] <bazhang> fatih1993, what client
[01:54] <MestreLion> Jordan_U:  so i guess its pretty "safe" to install to default /usr/local, since tree is already there... no fear in "messing"  a sys the tree since tree is already there, empty. But... what about desktop integration? will source files from upstream include things like .desktop files, mime types, etc?
[01:54] <dcabot> Hi folks
[01:55] <MestreLion> (my question is actually "how would a ./configure && make && make install be different from a .deb packaged downloaded and installed via Synaptic)
[01:55] <fatih1993> bazhang, for example to access a channel we use /join #channel ,  to log in what should i do? like that?
[01:55] <dcabot> Has anyone  seen a problem with pptp vpns on 11.04?
[01:55] <MrGeneral> folks, I installed chrome here, how can I change the default browser ?
[01:55] <bazhang> fatih1993, which irc client
[01:56] <fatih1993> NickServ
[01:56] <fatih1993> FreeNode
[01:56] <escott> MestreLion, deb has a database of where every file is stored and what it is needed for. make install does not
[01:56] <bazhang> fatih1993, thats not an irc client
[01:56] <fatih1993> fatih1993
[01:56] <eryn_1983_fl_2> It is unsupported
[01:56] <fatih1993> ?
[01:56] <Travis-42> because of some incompatibilities, I would like to go back to firefox 5 from 6. is this easy to do?
[01:57] <dcabot> I've run  into a problem, and I've seen others have it to - but no one has any solutions yet.
[01:57] <eryn_1983_fl_2> I havee benn looking at it but It  does not work.
[01:57] <bazhang> fatih1993, xchat? irssi? something else?
[01:57] <fatih1993> oh
[01:57] <dcabot> The LCP Config Ack comes back, but pppd never sees it
[01:57] <fatih1993> bazhang, xchat
[01:57] <escott> Travis-42, start by uninstalling firefox and then try to install the last firefox 5 deb you have in /var/cache/apt
[01:57] <bazhang> fatih1993, are you registered?
[01:58] <fatih1993> bazhang, yes
[01:58] <eryn_1983_fl_2> I will give it another try in a bit
[01:58] <xenzios> has anyone tried to install starcraft 2 with playonlinux?
[01:58] <Travis-42> escott, doesn't appear to be in there, do I have to go find it?
[01:58] <escott> Travis-42, yes you will have to do some searching
[01:58] <bazhang> fatih1993, okay----> xchat menu -->network list --->ubuntu servers--> click edit, add nick:pw in the server field
[01:58] <MestreLion> escott: that why im having trouble learning the "proper" way to install from source. Most tutorials out there are too generic.. they dont even mention tools like checkinstall. I would like to install stuff using the most "ubuntu tools" and infrasctructure as possible
[01:58] <anonBOY> :)
[01:59] <jukebox-zero> Does anyone know if you can specify more than one provides in a pkg built with checkinstall, and if so, what's the syntax? I think I'm going to try supplying the argument more than once like: sudo checkinstall --pkgname=mplayer --provides=mencoder --provides=mplayer but I'm worried it will only accept the first argument without throwing any errors.
[01:59] <escott> MestreLion, the only people who do their own builds are developers or (the very rare) individual who has built a system from scratch
[02:00] <escott> MestreLion, what you should do is lookup the ubuntu/debian packaging instructions and make a package for your application and then install it that way (ie roll your own deb)
[02:00] <MestreLion> escott: nooo, i dont want to build the whole system... just a few, hand-selected packages... simple stuff, mostly small apps or upgraded versions
[02:00] <escott> MestreLion, otherwise install to /opt so you can clean up easily
[02:01] <MrGeneral> folks, I installed chrome here, how can I change the default browser ?
[02:01] <somsip> MrGeneral: to what?
[02:02] <escott> MrGeneral, its in the settings application. you could also search for preferred applications
[02:02] <MrGeneral> somsip:  I just want to set it as default
[02:02] <MrGeneral> hmm
[02:02] <MestreLion> i wonder what is wrong with chromium for so many people wanting to install chrome instead
[02:03] <MrGeneral> its chromium
[02:03] <MrGeneral> :P
[02:03] <somsip> MrGeneral: and there is no option under Preferences to Set As Default?
[02:03] <MestreLion> escott: ive been reading several wiki's and ubuntu's docs about that... thats where i learned about checkinstall... by the way... is that still good to use? or too outdated?
[02:03] <MrGeneral> it is somsip but didnt work
[02:04] <MrGeneral> but its working now, I did it other way
[02:04] <somsip> MrGeneral: k
[02:04] <MrGeneral> thanks tho
[02:04] <fatih1993> bazhang, thanks a lot. done!
[02:04] <escott> MestreLion, ive never actually rolled my own package, but i believe that is how it is done. you can also lookup who was the debian packager for the versions you just want to update. there may already be a .deb in debian testing for the newer version
[02:05] <eryn_1983_fl_2> no workie on the cli stuff
[02:05] <vectory> hi, reinstalling grub from livecd. in grub, `find /boot/grub/stage1' gave hd0,5 iirc it should be something else. is there anyway to confirm which sdaX hd0,x is?
[02:06] <MestreLion> escott: there are debs for newer version... but only for newer distros (Oneiric)... i use Lucid, and i dont wanto to upgrade the whole system just to get upgrades of a few packages
[02:06] <escott> MestreLion, you can always ignore dependencies... its risky because things might be broken.
[02:07] <vectory> i may just have installed grub to a swap partition, if X=Y for hd0,X and sdaY
[02:07] <Tim55> HELP MEE!
[02:07] <bazhang> Tim55, with what
[02:07] <escott> !help | Tim55
[02:07] <MestreLion> vectory: are you sure you using ubuntu? stage1, hd0, etc, are legacy grub jargon... and ubuntu uses grub2
[02:07] <urlin2u> vectory, what guide are you using?
[02:07] <Tim55> bazi have mounted shares but they expire after a while
[02:07] <Tim55> very annoying
[02:07] <Tim55> i have to press the bookmark for the shres to come back
[02:07] <Tim55> how to change the disconnect timer?
[02:08] <escott> vectory, you dont install grub to partition numbers. you install it to the mbr. it should be grub-install /dev/sda
[02:08] <vectory> escott, it was a reinstall, so i pointed it to the partition /boot is on
[02:08] <vectory> or so i planned
[02:08] <escott> vectory, and if you did install to a swap partition just install to the correct one and mkswap again on your next reboot
[02:09] <nbest>  Hello.  Can a linux application read/write to a NTFS disk with windows files, with no issues or risks?
[02:09] <escott> vectory, you don't point it to /boot. it finds /boot by virtue of /boot being mounted. you point it at the disk (no partition number) it will complain rather loudly if you try to install to a partition
[02:09] <urlin2u> nbest, pretty much, within reason.
[02:09] <bazhang> nbest, of course
[02:09] <nbest>  hmmm, what's the 'within reason' urlin2u ?
[02:09] <escott> nbest, not with no risk
[02:10] <nbest>  oh so there is risk :(
[02:10] <vectory> escott: so there is no chance it coulda found /boot on a swap partition? hope it notices a swap partition
[02:10] <escott> nbest, there is no documentation of how ntfs works, and ubuntu cannot repair an ntfs partition
[02:10] <bazhang> nbest, minimal
[02:11] <escott> nbest, you should have a working windows system if you intent to use ntfs. thats the main thing
[02:11] <Pippi_Longstock> i got a problem, im afraid of updating from 10.4 to 11 something
[02:11] <escott> Pippi_Longstock, try the livecd thats what it is for
[02:11] <vectory> whats the problem
[02:11] <urlin2u> nbest, windows has files that rad the HD basically if you added a lot of data, from linux you might have some problems, the description you give is not complete, usually a shred partition is preferred.
[02:11] <Pippi_Longstock> i think if i update all my settings get messed up
[02:11] <prezident> whats up everybody when i first got my system i thought i was never going to use ubuntuone now i kind of want it i deleted it before is there a way to get it back i tried looking it up but didn't work.
[02:11] <urlin2u> shared8
[02:11] <prezident> how to install ubuntuone
[02:12] <MestreLion> vectory: this might help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/27155
[02:12] <urlin2u> nbest, shared partition sorry.
[02:12] <Tim55> so nobody cares about my problem?
[02:12] <bazhang> prezident, from the package manager
[02:12] <nbest>  escott  my intended use right now is to use clonezilla to clone my new pc's HDD to a storage external HDD but i don't want to mess it up in the process :P
[02:12] <paijem-cantik> hello Tim55, what your problem ?
[02:12] <prezident> ive tried not there
[02:12] <bazhang> Tim55, you provided way too few details
[02:12] <fatih1993> i compiled a C text. It seems light green in terminal. Which command make it run?
[02:12] <escott> nbest, clonezilla is not ntfs-3g its a bit-level copy, and is completely safe
[02:13] <escott> fatih1993, ./program_name
[02:13] <xangua> prezident: if you install ubuntu-desktop should install all default packages like ubuntu-one
[02:13] <urlin2u> nbest, that is just a ntfs no problem, is it a OS though on the external?
[02:13] <prezident> i deleted it
[02:13] <Pippi_Longstock> i need tht
[02:13] <prezident> xangua i removed it
[02:13] <xangua> prezident: install it then
[02:13] <bazhang> prezident, so reinstall it from the package manager
[02:13] <ablyss> fatih1993: chmod +x ./file && ./file
[02:13] <nbest>   oh good, i'm glad it's safe then escott, i think i'll make a partition just to be on the safer side anyway
[02:13] <Tim55> paijem-cantik i'm accessing shared windows drives on ubuntu but the shares expire after a while. how can i stop them from expiring?
[02:14] <LostyJai> hi...
[02:14] <nbest>  urlin2u  there is on OS on the external just datqa q
[02:14] <LostyJai> is natty the stable build of ubuntu 11.10?
[02:14] <nbest>  *data
[02:14] <bazhang> LostyJai, no
[02:14] <LostyJai> then....
[02:14] <urlin2u> nbest, your cool then. ;-)
[02:14] <prezident> xangua, bazhang lol i tried and it wasn't there i typed in ubuntuone and ubuntuone-client-dbg pops up and ubuntuone-file-storage and it doesn't show anything after
[02:14] <nbest>   great , thanks urlin2u  and escott
[02:14] <urlin2u> LostyJai, no
[02:14] <fatih1993> ablyss, i cant understand this command. But ./file_name command runned it
[02:14] <Hot2Trot> does anyone know how I can change pine's text editor to vi?
[02:14] <LostyJai> then what is natty? and oneiric?
[02:14] <MestreLion> LostyJai: natty is 11.04... 11.10 is oneiric
[02:15] <LostyJai> oh....
[02:15] <LostyJai> sht...
[02:15] <bazhang> 11.04 and 11.10 LostyJai
[02:15] <urlin2u> LostyJai, separate release
[02:15] <escott> fatih1993, . is the current directory. since the file is marked executable (chmod +x and why it is green) passing the full path to the file will run it. the full path is the current directory + "/" + filename
[02:15] <LostyJai> can't find desktop-11.10
[02:15] <LostyJai> =/
[02:16] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for 11.10 LostyJai
[02:16] <paijem-cantik> Tim55: maybe that was your windows sharing problem
[02:16] <escott> Hot2Trot, in your .bashrc export EDITOR=vim
[02:16] <Tim55> no it's ubuntu
[02:16] <LostyJai> is it in beta?
[02:16] <Tim55> i access the files from another windows and they never expire
[02:16] <MestreLion> Hot2Trot: update-alternatives --config editor
[02:16] <bazhang> LostyJai, ask there, thats the support channel for it
[02:17] <LostyJai> okok
[02:17] <paijem-cantik> Tim55: you say access windows share from ubuntu, that's right ?
[02:17] <MestreLion> LostyJai: as the version number suggests, 11.10 will be released in.. 11.10 :P
[02:17] <Hot2Trot> escott: You mean add the line "export EDITOR=vim" ?
[02:18] <LostyJai> thanks MestreLion
[02:18] <paijem-cantik> Tim55 : are you have try with another user ?
[02:18] <fatih1993> escott, i've understood.
[02:18] <fatih1993> escott, thanks for help
[02:18] <Tim55> do you know to stop ubuntu from removing the shares?
[02:18] <Tim55> yeah or no
[02:18] <MestreLion> Hot2Trot: vim does not come installed by default in ubuntu
[02:19] <Pippi_Longstock> well horsemeat is very tasty i still got some steaks here
[02:19] <centHOGG> ick
[02:19] <bazhang> !ot | Pippi_Longstock
[02:19] <Pippi_Longstock> oh wrong network lol
[02:19] <MestreLion> Tim55: at least here it shares dont expire until log out or manual disconnect
[02:19] <cpare> Hello Everyone
[02:19] <Hot2Trot> MestreLion: I know I have it installed, I did what you said, but it doesn't appear to be making the text editing in alpine vi
[02:20] <MestreLion> Hot2Trot: update-alternatives must be run with sudo
[02:20] <Hot2Trot> MestreLion: I did that
[02:21] <paijem-cantik> Tim55 : can you paste output $pdbedit -v -u username ?
[02:21] <escott> Hot2Trot, yes
[02:21] <cpare> Question: Why don't I see thumbnail images when I browse a remote share (SMB)
[02:21] <Hot2Trot> MestreLion: though it appears that it did make my command line commands use vi editing
[02:22] <MestreLion> Hot2Trot: ive never used alpine... but if that software is meant to be a vi replacement, i hope it adds itself to update-alternatives list, so you can choose it
[02:22] <Hot2Trot> MestreLion: I see
[02:23] <MestreLion> Hot2Trot: that depends on the command you use... some rely on the EDITOR enviroment var (as someone here suggested), some use the symlinks that update-alternatives provide
[02:23] <escott> cpare, its a nautilus preference, but to make the thumbnail the entire file has to be downloaded
[02:24] <MestreLion> cpare: Nautilus -> Edit > Preferences > View > Preview
[02:25] <cpare> escott - will it build a thumbnail database file for future references?
[02:25] <jukebox-zero> Let me try asking this a different way: If i install this using checkinstall --pkgname=mplayer --provides=mencoder will apt-get, aptitude, dpkg, et al have any trouble or complain if there were a pkg that depended on mplayer? It looks at the pkg name mroe than the provides, right?
[02:25] <MestreLion> but i *strongly* recommend you NOT to change from Local Drives Only to All Drives... as escott said, files would be downloaded for preview generation... and in remote servers, this is a BAD idea
[02:25] <rosstaylor> i am currently downloading a torrent file, but it's incredibly slow. Is it possible to somehow increase my downloading speed?
[02:26] <lfaraone> rosstaylor: get a faster torrent?
[02:26] <cpare> Thanks escott & MestreLion - that was the ticket!
[02:26] <GutenTag> what directory is best to install hadoop?  (I really don't know the conventions used with *nix directory structures for 3rd party software)
[02:26] <cpare> I am happy again :)
[02:26] <el_seano> has anybody here used bluetile?  Thoughts?  Opinions?  Considerations?
[02:26] <urlin2u> rosstaylor, your subject to the peers
[02:26] <lfaraone> rosstaylor: the problem is either your network speed, or the fact that there is not a lot of available bandwidth on the torrent.
[02:27] <lfaraone> I have a ThinkPad x220 with integrated Intel sound. After using HDMI, pulse fails to run with "E: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="29" name="platform-thinkpad_acpi" card_name="alsa_card.platform-thinkpad_acpi" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.". Is there a workaround here (googling gave me nothing), or should I report a bug?
[02:27] <adante> hi guys, should a macbookpro pass a ubuntu memory test out of the box?
[02:27] <adante> or are there nuances to the mbp hardware that would e.g. make it instantly reboot
[02:28] <lfaraone> adante: all computers should pass memtest
[02:28] <lfaraone> adante: does it load up the test at all?
[02:28] <MestreLion> GutenTag: unless youre really sure what youre doing, stick with Software Center and / or Synaptics... "3rd party software downloaded from web" is not the *nix way, and may mess your system
[02:30] <MestreLion> GutenTag: and hadoop IS in the official repositories
[02:30] <rosstaylor> ok thank you
[02:30] <adante> lfaraone: i think so... it gets to the blue background console screen and then promptly reboots
[02:30] <Pippi_Longstock> is there anything about a tool to manage harddrives (mdadm) and stuff?
[02:31] <Pippi_Longstock> but witha Gui, qt or gtk or something?
[02:31] <escott> cpare, it should
[02:31] <lfaraone> adante: sounds like you may have a ram problem :) does Ubuntu work properly at that computer?
[02:31] <MestreLion> GutenTag: for 90% (or more) of the apps you need are avaliable through Software Center... that is the first place to loob for before going to the World Wild Web ;)
[02:31] <jukebox-zero> How about this, I've been doing some searching, does anyone know of a pkg that has more than one provides I could look at as an example. Tovid came to mind, but it appears to be in the description only. Or is there a better way to look at that than aptitude show * or apt-cache show *?
[02:31] <MestreLion> (pun intended)
[02:31] <adante> lfaraone: haven't actually tried, gonna give it a go in a bit
[02:31] <lfaraone> adante: yeah, memtest is supported on Intel Macs.
[02:32] <GutenTag> MestreLion: hadoop just unpacks, though, I believe.  That said, can I use Software Center / Synaptics to download a specific version of hadoop and install it?  Do either of those two options equate to using 'sudo apt-get'  ?
[02:32] <escott> Pippi_Longstock, there is the disk utility but i dont know that it supports mdadm. generally raid is something done through the terminal. if you need help for that ask
[02:32] <MestreLion> jukebox-zero: i guess wine does that.... version from PPA provides both wine and wine1.3
[02:32] <jukebox-zero> MestreLion: Thanks, I'll check it out.
[02:33] <_alexleon_> hey ppl what is better instal windows vista first or install ubuntu first?
[02:33] <lfaraone> _alexleon_: install Windows then Ubuntu
[02:33] <centHOGG> windows then linux
[02:33] <_alexleon_> thank u
[02:33] <centHOGG> ms dinks the mbr on every install
[02:33] <_alexleon_> nd what happens if i install ubuntu first?
[02:33] <centHOGG> ms dinks the mbr on every install
[02:33] <lfaraone> _alexleon_: you'd just need to reinstall grub
[02:33] <MestreLion> GutenTag: Sofware Center is a friendly version of Synaptics... which in turn is a friendly version of Apptitude... they ALL use sudo apt-get behind the curtains
[02:33] <escott> _alexleon_, you have to reinstall grub, nothing too complex
[02:33] <Nach0z> just outta curiosity, didn't Ubuntu used to come with a "install alongside windows" option? Now i'm having to repartition and everything manually >_<
[02:33] <edbian> dink dink dink
[02:34] <centHOGG> extra work
[02:34] <_alexleon_> ok :)
[02:34] <escott> Nach0z, it does
[02:34] <edbian> Nach0z: You should still be able to install along side windows. (maybe not those words exactly)
[02:34] <MestreLion> _alexleon_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/27155
[02:34] <Nach0z> it doesn't have the "install alongside windows" option anymore
[02:34] <lfaraone> escott: I think they removed the 'resize partition foo' in recent versions of ubiquity. its not on oneiric at least, haven't used the gui installer on natty
[02:34] <Nach0z> it's just "delete windows" or "something else" :/
[02:35] <escott> lfaraone, i swear i saw it oneiric the other day
[02:35] <lfaraone> it used to be you could have it resize and use free space automagically.
[02:35] <edbian> Nach0z: Open gparted
[02:35] <MestreLion> Nach0z: it does still have that option
[02:35] <edbian> Nach0z: If the partitions have errors on them you won't be able to resize them and the installer won't let you dual boot.
[02:35] <Nach0z> .... just not the easy one-click option anymore. lol. i've already taken care of repartitioning and stuff.
[02:35] <Nach0z> just waitin for  finalization on the install.
[02:36] <edbian> Nach0z: oh, then nevermind
[02:36] <Nach0z> lol. thanks though.
[02:36] <GutenTag> MestreLion: OK, just checked (searched) software center for hadoop and found nothing.  We have the tar.gz file and need a destinatino directory.  Is something like this better in /usr/bin or /opt or somewhere else?  It's a pre-compiled java app (but comes with source)...so even perhaps /usr/local is an option?
[02:36] <MestreLion> GutenTag: apt-get install <name> will install the appropriate version for your system/architecture
[02:36] <_alexleon_> i wish there was something like itunes touse my iphone so u would just install ubuntu
[02:36] <edbian> GutenTag: /usr/local/bin/
[02:36] <edbian> GutenTag: That's where custom binaries go :)
[02:37] <GutenTag> thanks edbian :)
[02:37] <edbian> GutenTag: sure
[02:37] <gundy> So, I'm looking for a good SIP-PSTN gateway that does pay as you go.
[02:37] <lfaraone> edbian: ah, they do have that still, lol
[02:37] <MestreLion> GutenTag: avoid using tar.gz, even for precompiled java apps... it wont install launchers in /usr/bin, it wont install .desktop files for menu entries, etc.... cant you at least find a .DEB package?
[02:37] <A000293> If one builds their own distro, can they copyright their own built distro if they don't want to share it? it even though linux is open source?
[02:37] <edbian> lfaraone: /usr/local/bin/?  I don't think it's going anywhere.
[02:38] <gundy> heh, wrong channel :)
[02:38] <lfaraone> edbian: mix, meant escott
[02:38] <edbian> lfaraone: :)
[02:38] <jetscreamer> no
[02:39] <lfaraone> A000293: you have to abide by the terms of the GPL
[02:39] <A000293> GPL?
[02:39] <A000293> Whats that
[02:39] <lfaraone> A000293: you don't have to share, but you must give those whom you provide with binaries access to the source code, and a license to redistribute.
[02:39] <jetscreamer> lol
[02:39] <lfaraone> !gpl | A000293
[02:39] <ArseneRei> Hrm...my terminals (urxvt and xterm) have been acting weird since I've upgraded to natty. Their refresh gets really weird after a few hours.
[02:39] <ArseneRei> Any thoughts?
[02:40] <klark> is there a fix for the space bar not working within Flash apps in Google Chrome?
[02:40] <mrdeb> huh
[02:40] <lfaraone> klark: can you reproduce the issue with chromium?
[02:40] <escott> A000293, and you dont copyright the distro (generally) you trademark it
[02:40] <klark> lfaraone: good question. Will try that.
[02:41] <A000293> escott: ok
[02:41] <jukebox-zero> Okay, this looks like what I need to do. When apt-get, aptitude, dpkg et al looks for dependancies to be satisfied does anyone know if it only looks at installed package names or also provides? As long as it's both I'm fine.
[02:42] <_alexleon_> does someone know how to update an iphone in ubuntu?
[02:42] <escott> _alexleon_, update?
[02:42] <MestreLion> A000293: you cant build a distro based on Linux and not share... the Linux (and 99% of any modern distro) have a licence that forbid that
[02:42] <lfaraone> _alexleon_: sure. check  http://www.libimobiledevice.org
[02:42] <_alexleon_> update its ios
[02:43] <lfaraone> MestreLion: sure you can, see Amazon's Kindle :)
[02:43] <escott> _alexleon_, install virtualbox, install windows on virtual box, install itunes on windows
[02:43] <A000293> MestreLion: I see
[02:43] <MestreLion> A000293: i mean... IF you distribuite it, you would need to provide source code
[02:43] <MestreLion> lfaraone: Kindle does not use Linux kernel
[02:44] <CrazyTux[m]> Hey guys - running 11.04 Ubuntu --- I just recently switched over.  I am experiencing a VERY VERY annoying delay when switching applications with ALT + TAB ( I've googled and I find many people talking about an issue with a two second delay ) -- however while I am not positive that this is not the delay that I am experiencing - I do not believe it to be the  case - as I've both A) Tried all of the suggestions listed on go
[02:44] <lfaraone> MestreLion: who told you that?
[02:44] <MestreLion> A000293: you are not forced to distribute it tought... you can build your own distro and keep it to yourself... in that case, youre not forced to share
[02:44] <lfaraone> _alexleon_ / escott I've actually had great luck with my iPhone 4, the most recent version of libimobiledevice, and a fix to tell the iPhone to speak a older encrypted adatabase protocol
[02:44] <_alexleon_> mm u mean i can install virtualbox in ubuntu nd windown in virtual box so windowswill be inside ubuntu/?? :O
[02:44] <repozitor> hello all
[02:45] <escott> lfaraone, playing fire with a $200+ device... closed source, flashing with an unsupported system
[02:45] <A000293> MestreLion: I assumed that, lol
[02:45] <repozitor> how can i create a nickserv
[02:45] <repozitor> ?
[02:45] <repozitor> ?
[02:45] <lfaraone> escott: your device will refuse to flash an unsigned image, and they are verified prior to load.
[02:45] <lfaraone> repozitor: join /j #help and ask them
[02:45] <bazhang> repozitor, #freenode NOT here
[02:46] <_alexleon_> so i think i tunes is better
[02:46] <repozitor> Joining #help requires an invitation.
[02:46] <mrdeb> lfaraone: why
[02:46] <MestreLion> lfaraone: Linux is GPL'd... meaning if you modify and redistribute it, you must provide cource code of it
[02:46] <repozitor> what U mean exactly?
[02:46] <lfaraone> MestreLion: right, but you can build a distribution of software around it and not GPL that software.
[02:46] <bazhang> repozitor, ask in #freenode , you are there already
[02:46] <lfaraone> mrdeb: why what?
[02:47] <urlin2u> repozitor, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[02:47] <MestreLion> lfaraone: only if you develop from scratch all the software around it
[02:47] <lfaraone> MestreLion: in the case of the Kindle, TiVo, most Android devices, they do give oyou the source to the kernel, and their modifications to the same. But they are not oblidged to give you the entire distribution.
[02:48] <escott> lfaraone, i wouldn't know. im strictly no apple here
[02:48] <_alexleon_> ima use virtual box :D
[02:48] <MestreLion> lfaraone: TiVo is another issue... they used a very nasty feature to prevent you from changing the code... that was one of the main reasons GPL3 was born
[02:49] <lfaraone> MestreLion: so I could take Ubuntu, create a proprietary GUI or killer app on top of it, and as long as it doesn't link with any GPL libraries, I can distribute it all on a CD and call it lfaraone linux and not give you the source for that bit. I could also forbid you from making verbatim copies of that CD.
[02:50] <MestreLion> lfaraone: they are not obliged to give any code that is not GLP'd... but that also means they cant use any GLP'd sogtware to build it ;)
[02:50] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[02:50] <[THC]AcidRain> im not sure if this is the right place to ask this.  but i think it has a high relation to ubuntu.  im going to be developing a website, but thats aside from the point.  i want to create a search engine on my site to search within the site.  is it possible to have user input search across directories and files on my box?
[02:50] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:50] <lfaraone> [THC]AcidRain: no, and yes. I think there is a web development channel.
[02:51] <[THC]AcidRain> lfaraone, could you tell me that channel?
[02:51] <bazhang> and there is a GPL channel
[02:51] <_alexleon_> yo ppl unity still sucks?
[02:51] <lfaraone> [THC]AcidRain: I have no idea. try #web, #webdev, and other similiar things.
[02:51] <bazhang> _alexleon_, actual support question?
[02:51] <MestreLion> lfaraone: true... but that means making a GUI that would be completely "detached" from the rest of the distro...
[02:51] <escott> !alis | [THC]AcidRain
[02:52] <bazhang> !ot | MestreLion lfaraone
[02:52] <MestreLion> youre right, sorry bazhang
[02:52] <bazhang> #gpl perhaps
[02:53] <_alexleon_> i mean does unity still give problems?
[02:53] <_alexleon_> cuz last time it gave me many :/
[02:53] <bazhang> _alexleon_, give us details, we will troubleshoot them
[02:53] <lfaraone> _alexleon_: that is incredibly vague. it works for a large number of people. many others have issues. as is the same with everything else.
[02:53] <bazhang> _alexleon_, "sucks" is not much of a detail
[02:53] <escott> _alexleon_, its not unity that usually causes the problems its compiz and graphics support. that and some people just dont like it
[02:54] <eryn_1983_fl_2> ok peeps I got it working with trayer no worries
[02:54] <_alexleon_> mm i see well this is my new laptop so ima try it here ima isntall it now brb :)
[02:59] <Neoncamouflage> Is there a way to change the login screen for Ubuntu 10.10? Or just have it default to like a command line interface to login? I love Ubuntu but have always hated that login screen.
[03:01] <escott> has anyone enabled compose key to replace the capslock key on a us 104 who would be willing to !paste me their xkb config?
[03:02] <escott> Neoncamouflage, you could disable gdm and then login and startx. anything else is just a gdm theme
[03:02] <edbian> Neoncamouflage: Here's this: http://ubuntuguide.net/an-effective-way-changing-ubuntu-11-04-login-screen-appearance
[03:02] <edbian> Neoncamouflage: But really I recommend turning of GDM as well.  It's a waste of resources
[03:03] <Neoncamouflage> I use 10.10, not 11.04. And what's GDM?
[03:03] <somsip> Neoncamouflage: or maybe a lightweight replacement like SLiM
[03:03] <edbian> Neoncamouflage: GDM is the login screen.
[03:03] <Neoncamouflage> Oh, well yeah, that's exactly what I want gone. :P
[03:03] <Neoncamouflage> Or changed to look nicer
[03:03] <edbian> Neoncamouflage: You know it's not hard to google ;)   http://maketecheasier.com/change-login-and-boot-screen-in-ubuntu-lucid/2010/05/13
[03:04] <Neoncamouflage> edbian, Yes but then we don't get to have a nice conversation. :)
[03:04] <edbian> Neoncamouflage: ha
[03:04] <edbian> :)
[03:05] <cordoval> anyone knows how to disable the suspend button on the keyboard for good?
[03:05] <cordoval> ubuntu natty latest here 64 bit asus g73jw
[03:09] <Neoncamouflage> Alright, I highly doubt this, but would there be any way to disable the login screen but not have to start x each time I log in? Like login to the terminal and then automatically go to the desktop.
[03:10] <Neoncamouflage> That I did try to google.
[03:10] <escott> Neoncamouflage, you could just uninstall your greater or boot to text
[03:11] <somsip> Neoncamouflage: add exec startx to .bash_profile.
[03:11] <escott> Neoncamouflage, booting to text is probably the easiest, just modify /etc/default/grub to set text as the boot option and rerun update-grub
[03:12] <yingouqlj> 有人吗？
[03:13] <somsip> !zh | yingouqlj
[03:13] <Neoncamouflage> escott, That's exactly what I'm trying to do, thanks.
[03:13] <Neoncamouflage> and thank you somsip, will do that
[03:14] <nekro> hey guys, i have a question
[03:14] <edbian> nekro: yeah?
[03:14] <nekro> im having issues
[03:14] <escott> Neoncamouflage, i would worry about adding startx to .bash_profile. what happens when x fails to start, or when you login to multiple consoles
[03:15] <nekro> just installed ubuntu 10.10 to my HDD
[03:15] <nekro> via USB stick, and im getting a geom error
[03:15] <nekro> if i don't boot with the USB stick in, i get no error, it just sits there
[03:15] <escott> nekro, a geometry error? what exactly does it say
[03:15] <Kamikaze> hey all... I just finished installation of latest version of Ubuntu, the thing is this, My partition "D" and "E" are NTFS is that ok? because I'm coming from Windows Vista and I did't format that partitions, sure i change the format of that partitions that are NTFS ?
[03:15] <nekro> geom error. and then it sits there
[03:16] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, ubuntu wont install to a ntfs
[03:16] <escott> Kamikaze, you can't/shouldn't install ubuntu to D or E, but otherwise its fine
[03:16] <Neoncamouflage> escott, if x fails for some reason and it's in bashrc, would it crash Ubuntu?
[03:16] <escott> nekro, have you tried reinstalling grub?
[03:16] <Neoncamouflage> I would assume it would just stay on the command interface.
[03:16] <nekro> it won't let me
[03:17] <nekro> hmm..
[03:17] <escott> Neoncamouflage, well usually startx would fail and drop you back to bash. but what if x starts locking the entire box up?
[03:17] <nekro> can i use F8 to bring up a boot menu like windows?
[03:17] <Kamikaze> urlin2u, no i have installed ubuntu on C and it automatically changed the type of partition and it installed there, but i have partitiot E and D where are my pics songs etc... is that fine?
[03:17] <escott> nekro, i think its the space key?
[03:18] <Kamikaze> urlin2u,  and they are NTFS
[03:18] <nekro> damn
[03:18] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, is your question will ubuntu read those partitions?
[03:18] <Neoncamouflage> escott, then wouldn't that do the same thing regardless of whether it's me trying to startx or bashrc?
[03:18] <nekro> dammit
[03:18] <nekro> won't work
[03:18] <Sna4x8> I am having a grub nightmare.  I tried to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 last night using the update manager.  After that my system would not boot.  This is standard for me - every upgrade since 8.x for me, I've had to manually boot into rescue mode and grub-install on my mdadm raid.  Now, however, update-grub2 is not finding my Ubuntu installation.  This has never happened before.
[03:18] <escott> nekro, or maybe escape. can you tell if the kernel is loading?
[03:18] <nekro> it doesn't load past bios
[03:19] <nekro> this is my first time running linux
[03:19] <nekro> ever
[03:19] <escott> Neoncamouflage, well presumably you won't do it on your 5th, 6th, 7th, ... reboot
[03:19] <Kamikaze> urlin2u, i already checked it reads everything is fine as should be, im just wondering is this how it supposed to be? or i should change the type of that partitions that are remaining NTFS now
[03:19] <escott> nekro, so grub isn't coming up at all. try to reinstall grub. thats always the first thing to do
[03:19] <escott> !grub | nekro
[03:19] <Neoncamouflage> escott, oh...right. duh. XD Will refrain from adding it to bashrc, good call. Thanks again man.
[03:20] <nekro> oh cool a skybot
[03:20] <nekro> i can't install it if the machine won't boot >->
[03:20] <escott> Neoncamouflage, it can be done, just keep those rescue cds around, or be prepared to work in single mode or ...
[03:20] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, if you just a a ubuntu install the other two partitions are okay as ntfs, uuntu can't defragg them though if that matters.
[03:20] <nekro> be right back
[03:20] <escott> nekro, you install grub (not the whole os) from the live usb
[03:21] <nekro> i think it was corrupted accidentally
[03:21] <nekro> brb
[03:21] <escott> nekro, this is what the error means: This error message will occur if the location of the Stage 2 or Stage 1.5 is not in the area supported by reading the disk with the BIOS directly. This could occur because the BIOS translated geometry has been changed by the user or the disk is moved to another machine or controller after installation, or GRUB was not installed using itself (if it was, the Stage 2 version of this error would have been
[03:21] <escott>  seen during that process and it would not have completed the install).
[03:21] <Pippi_Longstock> i need to make a backup from backup
[03:22] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, sorry for the spelling mistakes I think your fine.
[03:22] <r3b00t> can somebody help me with a driver issue??
[03:22] <bazhang> Pippi_Longstock, okay.
[03:22] <Kamikaze> urlin2u,  thanks ) cuz i was thinking that it might make conflict with something that two of my partitions are ntfs but sounds like its ok because the system has its own partition and its own type
[03:22] <bazhang> Pippi_Longstock, where is said backup
[03:22] <Kamikaze> urlin2u,  sure no problem )
[03:22] <r3b00t> wcid is acting up for me
[03:23] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, if you wanted you could reformat them to ext4 at some time.
[03:23] <nekro> i used unetbootin
[03:23] <nekro> are there any better utils?
[03:23] <lidaobing> hello, the F12 key sounds occupied by my LXDE window manager, how can I disable this?
[03:23] <lidaobing> thanks
[03:24] <r3b00t> anyone?
[03:24] <Kamikaze> Kamikaze,  would it make difference? i mean would it work faster than now? or it wont effect on anything anyhow
[03:24] <Captainkrtek> r3b00t: I can
[03:24] <r3b00t> thanks
[03:24] <Captainkrtek> sup?
[03:24] <escott> lidaobing, it would be in your lxde wm config whatever that may be
[03:24] <GutenTag> I just downloaded a .rpm file (jdk-7).  I want to install it into / directory, but I get permission denied.  I'm not sure how to start the rpm manager with sudo or get around the permissions problem.
[03:24] <escott> lidaobing, see if there is a .lxde? file/folder
[03:24] <escott> !rpm | GutenTag
[03:24] <r3b00t> so I am trying to connect my laptop to my wifi router. I have it selected as WPA 1/2 Passphrase.. and I made sure my password is right. then hit connect
[03:25] <edbian> GutenTag: .rpm's are for other distros
[03:25] <lidaobing> escott, no ~/.lxde
[03:25] <bazhang> !java > GutenTag
[03:25] <r3b00t> but then it says "Connection Failed: Bad Password"
[03:25] <lidaobing> escott, or ~/.config/lxde
[03:25] <Kamikaze> urlin2u,  would it make difference? i mean would it work faster than now? or it wont effect on anything anyhow
[03:25] <bazhang> !partner | GutenTag
[03:25] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, all relative really.
[03:25] <Captainkrtek> r3b00t: have you tried disabling security?
[03:25] <r3b00t> I need my security though...
[03:25] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, it's safe just use it would be my motto. ;-)
[03:26] <Kamikaze> urlin2u, if i change them to ext4 it wont erase any of my files right? they'll survive ?)
[03:26] <Jordan_U> nekro: Why did you install Ubuntu 10.10 rather than 11.04 ?
[03:26] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, nope changing partitions types wipes them.
[03:26] <r3b00t> Captainkrtek, and there is another unsecure WAP right by me and it wont connect to that either
[03:26] <nekro> a friend said it was better
[03:26] <GutenTag> ahh, thanks guyes.  That said, we double clicked on it and it seemed that it installed it (although in my ~/Download directory).  Would that behavior be expected?  Also, for jdk-7, should I just then grab the compressed binary tar.gz and unpack it appropriately?
[03:26] <Kamikaze> urlin2u, wips them? lool i have my whole life in that 2 partitions )
[03:26] <escott> Kamikaze, you generally cannot "just change" partitions. upgrades do exist for ext2->ext3->ext4->btrfs but not for other combinations
[03:27] <Lasers> nekro: There are no reasons to stay on 10.10.  Either you go with 10.04 (LTS) or 11.04 -- Or switch to a different distro. Just saying.
[03:27] <Captainkrtek> r3b00t: using any manual connection settings? like manual dhcp?
[03:27] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, you would have to back up the files
[03:27] <GutenTag> (I did search the Software Center for java and didn't see it there.)
[03:27] <nekro> o-o i had 10.04 LTS
[03:27] <r3b00t> not to my knowledge
[03:27] <nekro> and he said 10.10 was better
[03:27] <Kamikaze> escott, thanks )
[03:27] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, if that is your whole life you better back it up anyway.
[03:27] <Jordan_U> Kamikaze: Having your whole life in two partitions with no backups is a problem in any situation.
[03:28] <Kamikaze> i would like to have a back up but i have no idea how to do that ?
[03:28] <Kamikaze> :(
[03:28] <Captainkrtek> r3b00t: what wireless adapter are you using
[03:28] <escott> !backup | Kamikaze
[03:28] <Kamikaze> ya its really my whole life in that 2 partitions
[03:28] <nekro> can i just not use GRUB?
[03:28] <Jordan_U> nekro: There isn't much sense in installing 10.10 when 11.04 is newer and 10.04 will be supported longer (since it's an LTS version).
[03:28] <Kamikaze> thankss guys u r kind )
[03:29] <escott> nekro, you have to use something, grub is generally the best choice
[03:29] <r3b00t> Captainkrtek: broadcom BCM4312 is what comes up with lspci -v
[03:29] <Captainkrtek> kk hold on
[03:29] <syrinx_priest> nekro: and what happens when you boot from the USB?  do you get a live desktop?
[03:29] <escott> syrinx_priest, geom error
[03:29] <nekro> no, its an installer USB
[03:29] <syrinx_priest> ah
[03:29] <nekro> i get a geom error after installing
[03:29] <Jordan_U> nekro: The error you're getting isn't actually from Ubuntu 10.10's version of grub.
[03:30] <Captainkrtek> r3b00t: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[03:30] <Kamikaze> escott,  might i sound funny but i would like to ask, is that true that Linuxes in this case(Ubuntu) never get infected with viruses ?
[03:30] <nekro> im re-imaging the USB via unebootin
[03:30] <Captainkrtek> r3b00t: Under the desktop menu System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers, the STA drivers can be activated for use.
[03:30] <nekro> then im gonna see if i can reinstall and run it
[03:30] <escott> Kamikaze, generally speaking no. for a number of reasons
[03:30] <Captainkrtek> you may have to restart after
[03:30] <nekro> i mightve yanked it out too soon
[03:31] <r3b00t> that came back with a bunch of errors
[03:31] <Kamikaze> escott, so there is possibility that even Ubuntu can be infected with some viruses ?
[03:31] <Captainkrtek> r3b00t: pastebin them
[03:31] <r3b00t> that machine cant get online
[03:31] <escott> Kamikaze, its not something one usually worries about but yes it is possible.
[03:31] <Captainkrtek> r3b00t: right... any way to connect it via ethernet?
[03:31] <Jordan_U> nekro: I would recommend installing Ubuntu 11.04. If that fails also, run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it produces.
[03:31] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | nekro
[03:31] <r3b00t> no cables
[03:32] <Kamikaze> escott, thanks:) i hope it wont happen with me )
[03:32] <r3b00t> Captainkrtek: and hardware/additional drivers isnt listed under System>Admin
[03:32] <nekro> Jordan_U, id be unable to. right after the BIOS screen is the geom error
[03:32] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, rootkits will run on any OS.
[03:32] <r3b00t> im running backtrack 5 which is ubuntu
[03:32] <urlin2u> generally *
[03:32] <bazhang> r3b00t, not supported here
[03:32] <escott> !backtrack | r3b00t
[03:32] <Captainkrtek> r3b00t: not supported in the ubuntu channel
[03:33] <Captainkrtek> also I wouldn't use backtrack as a daily driver
[03:33] <bazhang> #backtrack-linux r3b00t
[03:33] <Kamikaze> urlin2u, im sorry im a new guy in Ubuntu... i have no idea what is rootkits )
[03:33] <r3b00t> there is a bt channel here?
[03:33] <Captainkrtek> it's meant for being a live cd mainly for pen testing, not really a daily driver
[03:33] <bazhang> r3b00t, yes, look above
[03:33] <r3b00t> didnt know that thanks!
[03:33] <nekro> im wanting to runa gamer OS. should i just install win7 after i get ubuntu running?
[03:33] <escott> Kamikaze, in common terminology "viruses" there are lots of terms depending on how it is transmitted and what it does
[03:33] <r3b00t> it wont let me send to the room
[03:34] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_kit
[03:34] <Kamikaze> urlin2u, escott  thanks :) now ill read it, sorry guys is there any site that can provide my basic skills of this operation system? simplest ones just how to use them which is where... ?
[03:35] <escott> !manual | Kamikaze
[03:35] <bazhang> !wiki | Kamikaze
[03:35] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, in ubuntu getting a rotkit is unlikely if you know the source of the installs, and root is locked basically needs a password to access.
[03:35] <Sna4x8> Any help with my grub/mdadm problem is greatly appreciated.
[03:36] <Kamikaze> urlin2u, this thing sounds hard... i dont believe that i can ever master those things )
[03:36] <escott> Sna4x8, be more specific please
[03:36] <Sna4x8> Thanks escott:
[03:36] <Sna4x8> I am having a grub nightmare.  I tried to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 last night using the update manager.  After that my system would not boot.  This is standard for me - every upgrade since 8.x for me, I've had to manually boot into rescue mode and grub-install on my mdadm raid.  Now, however, update-grub2 is not finding my Ubuntu installation.  This has never happened before.
[03:36] <prezident> does anybody know how i can convert doc or docx to a pdf
[03:36] <prezident> ?
[03:36] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, nah its a learning curve I guess I started on open source.
[03:36] <escott> prezident, in bulk... no idea, but you can print to pdf with libreoffice
[03:36] <Captainkrtek> prezident: open it in LibreOffice and export as PDF
[03:37] <r3m> Hi, which mta is installed when we install Ubuntu? is it exim? because i do not have it installed
[03:37] <prezident> ok cool
[03:38] <r3b00t> waa nobody is awake in the Backtrack room
[03:38] <Sna4x8> r3m: I think it's postfix now.
[03:38] <r3m> Sna4x8: thanks
[03:38] <bazhang> r3b00t, not an ubuntu problem. be patient there
[03:38] <r3b00t> so it has something to do with what they stripped away with ubuntu when they made the BT Distro?
[03:38] <jmcantrell> when a network share gets mounted through nautilus, is there a way to get to that at the command line?
[03:38] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, if you just install from the Ubuntu repos to begin with you have nothing to worry about, just don't run in root, for various reasons.
[03:39] <dr-willis> r3b00t:  they are on a different irc network normslly i think. check their jomepage
[03:39] <r3b00t> yeah nobody answers there either
[03:39] <bazhang> r3b00t, please stop asking for bt support here. its offtopic
[03:39] <dr-willis> r3b00t:  siunds like a goid reason to not use bt. then
[03:39] <Captainkrtek> r3b00t: what are you using bt for?
[03:39] <Captainkrtek> I have used it a bit in the past
[03:40] <r3b00t> running through my network security etc. but I cant even get it online. so Ill ask in the other room about the driver issue
[03:40] <dr-willis> ive not noticed anything in bt that cant be installed onto ubuntu from a ppa or other soruce
[03:40] <Kamikaze> urlin2u, actually i have no serious purposes with this operation system, I'm daily user... like browsing... music films etc... and some yahoo skype that's it... but i would like to handle this operation well if im able of course to understand how is everything going on here
[03:40] <Captainkrtek> r3b00t: you can PM me if you like
[03:40] <bazhang> Kamikaze, yes, so read the links we sent you
[03:41] <Kamikaze> bazhang, ye thats what im doing right now
[03:43] <xenzios> has anyone gotten starcraft2 to work?
[03:44] <xenzios> (I tried playonlinux channel but it's dead)
[03:44] <wildbat> xenzios: #winehq
[03:44] <xenzios> tried that too
[03:44] <xenzios> still waiting for a response
[03:44] <escott> jmcantrell, check `mount` but usually it will be found in ~/.gvfs
[03:45] <Kamikaze> urlin2u, wondering is out there an app that like has a search bar you can type the music's name and it comes up and play for you? or ask you to download ?
[03:45] <jmcantrell> escott: ah, there it is. thanks :)
[03:45] <wildbat> xenzios: we don't support wine here so check on the appdb or wait for #winehq response:>
[03:45] <escott> jmcantrell, it may be that its not actually mounted but just using libsamba
[03:46] <nekro> im running rescue mode
[03:46] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, there are players, rhythmbox has plugins to get stuff from proprietors, probably others as well not sure really.
[03:47] <Kamikaze> urlin2u, thanks for patiently answering to my questions
[03:47] <nekro> urlin2u, would running rescue mode fix my geom error?
[03:48] <nekro> or is it merely GRUB related
[03:48] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, no problem there is a #ubuntu-offtopic channel as well probably more suitable for random stuff. ;-)
[03:48] <nekro> and would rescue mode fix GRUB schtuffs?
[03:48] <urlin2u> nekro, have you a bootable thumb now?
[03:48] <nekro> yes
[03:48] <nekro> im running rescue mode on it
[03:49] <nekro> i may have to use the thumb as my primary OS storage, and put everything else on the SATA HDD
[03:49] <Kamikaze> urlin2u, ill try there as well) still trying to figure out basic things such as music player programs this then ) as i master them ill go deep far to see what can this operation do generally ;)
[03:50] <nekro> ok, i exited rescue mode
[03:50] <urlin2u> nekro, boot the thumg open a terminal and run this command in the link in one fell swoop it will put a RESULTS.txt in home copy and paste all the text to a pastebin.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/667640/
[03:50] <urlin2u> thumb*
[03:51] <nekro> urlin2u, ok, after i try reinstalling GRUB
[03:51] <nekro> its 33% formatting
[03:52] <urlin2u> nekro, this is actually to see what your mising so you can install grub, are you confident in installing grub?
[03:52] <urlin2u> missing
[03:52] <nekro> im using an iso loaded by unetbootin. im a windows user, flying blind
[03:53] <nekro> a someone on here said reinstall GRUB
[03:53] <jukebox-zero> when dpkg checks to see if a pkgs dependencies are satisfied, does it look at the names of installed packages, what those packages say they provide, or both?
[03:53] <urlin2u> nekro, run the script, it will show any anomalies that may be causing problems first.
[03:53] <Pippi_Longstock> is it possible to isntall and run ubuntu on a raid5 with a dedicated root partition using btrfs for root?
[03:53] <nekro> well, i am already in the middle of (installing base system)
[03:54] <nekro> whatever that means
[03:54] <urlin2u> nekro, your just reinstalling Ubuntu you will be okay.
[03:54] <nekro> okay
[03:54] <rww> jukebox-zero: both
[03:55] <nekro> is unetbootin good?
[03:55] <bazhang> Pippi_Longstock, what about your backup issue
[03:55] <Pippi_Longstock> i try to build up a NAS with 6x 4 terabyte and a separate partition for the OS
[03:55] <Pippi_Longstock> bazhang: thats another problem
[03:55] <urlin2u> nekro, I use it often, are you loading it right now I think we are on differnt pages here.
[03:56] <urlin2u> loading the thumb
[03:56] <jukebox-zero> rww: so I'm good in assuming if I compile a package using checkinstall --pkgname=mplayer --provides=mencoder dpkg will recognize that a dependency for both mplayer and mencoder would be satisfied?
[03:58] <rww> jukebox-zero: I don't use checkinstall, but I would assume so.
[03:58] <hylian> hello all
[03:59] <nekro> urlin2u, i am right now
[03:59] <urlin2u> hylian, hey, need some help?
[03:59] <nekro> im on a winxp machine'
[03:59] <jukebox-zero> rww: well, if we leave checkinstall out of the mix, that a .deb package that is named mplayer and provides mencoder would satisfy deps without having to specify it provides both mplayer and mencoder? (Can't figure out the syntax to specify more than one)
[03:59] <urlin2u> nekro, so do you want to fix grub?
[03:59] <nekro> configuring console setup
[04:00] <hylian> urlin2u, no, but thanks for offering. I thought I would see if anyone else needed help.
[04:00] <nekro> its 83 percent done installing base system
[04:00] <rww> jukebox-zero: yes
[04:00] <jukebox-zero> that it satisfies mplayer by virtue of being named mplayer
[04:00] <urlin2u> hylian, coo.
[04:00] <elacheche_anis> Hey guys, I have a serious problem here with the loco.ubuntu.com website!! When I sign in using my OpenID the site don't use my real OpenId but an other one XD
[04:00] <urlin2u> hylian, cool.
[04:00] <jukebox-zero> rww: excellent. Thank you.
[04:00] <rww> elacheche_anis: ask #ubuntu-locoteams, that's where the LoCo Directory people hang out.
[04:01] <elacheche_anis> ok rww thx :)
[04:01] <Kamikaze> urlin2u, Sr. If i download apps only from "Ubuntu Software Center" there is no risk to infect my PC right?
[04:01] <urlin2u> Kamikaze, thats right.
[04:01] <Kamikaze> :)
[04:02] <hylian> Kamikaze, there is always a risk to infecting your pc, unless you do not use the internet.
[04:02] <nekro> urlin2u, do i NEED to install grub? or can i boot without it
[04:02] <hylian> Kamikaze, albeit a very very small one
[04:03] <urlin2u> nekro, does the computer boot to ubuntu now?
[04:03] <Kamikaze> hylian, i got it, thanks Sr )
[04:03] <nekro> this is part of the install process
[04:03] <nekro> it asks if i want to or not
[04:03] <nekro> can it boot without GRUB
[04:03] <urlin2u> nekro, so your reinstalling is this correct?
[04:03] <nekro> yes
[04:04] <nekro> its at the end of the reinstall
[04:04] <nekro> i reformatted just in case
[04:04] <nekro> so theres no GRUB isntalled right now
[04:04] <hylian> wireless does not work with lxde, even if i install another wifi client like wicd.
[04:04] <urlin2u> nekro, grub is automatic under the best of conditions, but when you boot with a thumb, the HD and thumb can get switched, as far as how the installer see them.
[04:05] <nekro> ... so i don't need to install it?
[04:05] <Peddy> My keymaps are messed up (in the default layout, the ALT and WIN keys are swapped), how do I change this?
[04:05] <jukebox-zero> rww: out of curiosity, do you use something else like src2pkg or just install the source without worrying about pkg mgmnt?
[04:05] <urlin2u> nekro, can you just boot the umb with no install and run the script I suggest we are not really able to communicaye here.
[04:06] <urlin2u> thumb
[04:06] <nekro> no, i can't
[04:06] <nekro> am at the last portion of the install
[04:06] <jukebox-zero> rww: I'm kinda behind on what's the newest and greatest in ubuntu.
[04:06] <nekro> where it asks if i should install GRUB or not
[04:06] <urlin2u> nekro, hmm what id the release your installing?
[04:07] <urlin2u> is
[04:07] <nekro> 10.10
[04:07] <rww> jukebox-zero: I don't go outside the repositories.
[04:07] <hylian> nekro, if your installing ubuntu to a usb key, i wouldn't advise it, especially if you have linux already installed in a local hard disk.
[04:07] <urlin2u> nekro, can you describe that question about a grub install?
[04:07] <nekro> im installing it FROM the usb TO the HDD
[04:07] <Kamikaze> urlin2u, is that just seems to me or it is really lol i think my PC barely runs this OS? is this too heavy for my PC? my pc is core i7 n 8gb ram, and 1gb video, sometimes when i close a dialog or search for something it takes a few seconds very a few is that means my PC weak for this OS ?
[04:08] <hylian> nekro, ohh, i do that all the time. then I do suggest installing grub, yes. I have never had any problems in doing that. :)
[04:08] <urlin2u> nekro, honestly I just don't understand you.
[04:08] <nekro> Install GRUB boot loader to the master boot record? <yes> <no>
[04:08] <urlin2u> yes
[04:08] <hylian> nekro i would.
[04:08] <nekro> ok, i am
[04:08] <jukebox-zero> rww: ah. well probably part of my problem in doing this in the first place is being behind. Is there anything you might recommend rather than the ffmpeg/mplayer combo I learned back in dapper days?
[04:08] <nekro> setting hardware clock. installation complete
[04:09] <nekro> rebooting
[04:09] <nekro> ... geom error
[04:09] <hylian> nekro, never seen that error before...
[04:10] <urlin2u> nekro, are or did you install from windows?
[04:10] <urlin2u> yiu or did
[04:10] <urlin2u> you
[04:10] <nekro> it was broken windows install
[04:10] <nekro> i switched the primary boot device from the USB to the HDD and nothing happens
[04:11] <hylian> nekro, a quick look at that error suggests you would have to shut down the machine, remove yur usb key, and then reboot.
[04:11] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | nekro
[04:12] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, thanks. ;-)
[04:12] <wad> Is there a factoid on how to play a DVD with the latest UBuntu?
[04:12] <Jordan_U> !dvd | wad
[04:13] <Sna4x8> I'm completely stumped, any help is appreciated.  I used the update manager to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10, and now grub will not detect my raid array.  I can mount the raid array fine, and see all my files, I just can't get grub to generate a good grub.cfg.
[04:13] <wad> thanks
[04:13] <Jordan_U> wad: You're welcome.
[04:13] <Jordan_U> Sna4x8: What is wrong with the grub.cfg? What happens when you try to boot?
[04:14] <hylian> nekro, from what I have read this could also be an error with having the auto detect setting in your bios. here is what i am quoting from: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/grub-geom-error-287509/
[04:14] <nekro> autodetect? where at?
[04:15] <Sna4x8> Jordan_U: I get cannot find boot device.
[04:15] <Jordan_U> Sna4x8:
[04:15] <jukebox-zero> rww: thanks, mplayer v4.4.3 is up and running like a charm and satisfies a dependency for mencoder. :)
[04:15] <urlin2u> hylian, that is grub-legav=cy
[04:15] <urlin2u> legacy
[04:15] <Sna4x8> Jordan_U: That's the case for me with every single update, though.  I always have to reinstall grub on the raid array.
[04:15] <hylian> urlin2u, ahh, thanks, didn't see that.
[04:16] <Sna4x8> Jordan_U: Typically I just mount the raid array, chroot, and grub-install ; update-grub
[04:16] <nekro> hylian, set LBA to off then?
[04:16] <Jordan_U> Sna4x8: "Cannot find boot device" is not an error message that grub gives. Please copy and paste (using http://pastebin.ubuntu.com for multiple lines) the exact error message.
[04:16] <urlin2u> nekro, the only way any of us wikll understand you is if you run the script two of us have suggested.
[04:16] <nekro> ok
[04:16] <nekro> but
[04:17] <Sna4x8> Jordan_U: At this point, I have grub installed on the raid array.  This is a dual boot system.  I can boot into XP now.
[04:17] <nekro> i get the geom error on loading my USB drive
[04:17] <nekro> i have to REMOVE LINUX
[04:17] <nekro> to get the USB to load
[04:17] <nekro> meaning i can't run your script
[04:18] <Jordan_U> nekro: Have you tried removing the internal drive from the BIOS's boot order rather than removing it physically?
[04:18] <nekro> hmm...
[04:19] <hylian> nekro, from more research, that might solve your problem, but another problem is some bioses not being able to use uuid numbers, in which case your only option is to dig up lilo. it's worth a try to do that first, set the bios yourself instead of auto detect.
[04:19] <nekro> no
[04:19] <chrome_> For when ubuntu 11.10?
[04:19] <nekro> hylian: uh... what the heck does that mean
[04:20] <slipkid08> hello all
[04:20] <nekro> lilo and uuid
[04:20] <hylian> nekro i can tell you that both the machine i am using and my netbook where just frshly installed using a 16gb usb stick. nothing special either about that stick.
[04:20] <chrome_> when for ubuntu 11.10?
[04:20] <urlin2u> chrome_, #ubuntu+1 is 11.10
[04:20] <Pippi_Longstock> sir bazhang are you still there?
[04:20] <slipkid08> I hate Win7
[04:21] <slipkid08> I love Ubuntu
[04:21] <nekro> ok, lets try this again
[04:21] <urlin2u> Pippi_Longstock, tab there nic they will be notified
[04:21] <crus> hey guys, are there any official documentation to getting gnome3 shell running on 11.04? i tried with the gnome3 team ppa and it hosed my install
[04:21] <hylian> nekro lilo is and older stand by for grub. uuid is a universal i.d. number for your hard drive. some bios'es can't handle it, so you would have to use the old standard /dev/hda1/ (for instance)
[04:21] <crus> s/are/is
[04:21] <slipkid08> but Ubuntu needs to embed wine inside their fresh install
[04:21] <slipkid08> lol
[04:21] <wildbat> !gnome3 | crus
[04:21] <Jordan_U> hylian: UUIDs have nothing to do with this particular problem.
[04:21] <nekro> hylian: you guys don't seem to udnerstand, i've never ran linux on this machine, and the old OS was windows, which corrupted
[04:22] <slipkid08> What exactly is GNOME?
[04:22] <crus> wildbat: any further information you can give me? such as when this might be possible?
[04:22] <hylian> Jordan_U, great, that helps. please enlighten me or nekro though, sure could use the help.
[04:22] <nekro> please?
[04:22] <crus> slipkid08: www.gnome.org, it's a desktop environment.
[04:22] <hylian> nekro, i see. ok, let's take this a little slower.
[04:23] <wildbat> crus: i doubt it will be
[04:23] <Jordan_U> nekro: Can you possibly burn and boot from a CD?
[04:23] <slipkid08> so GNOME is actually just the "Point-and-click"?
[04:23] <nekro> it refuses to boot from a CD
[04:23] <nekro> only a USB
[04:23] <nekro> or else i'd be running WIN7
[04:23] <Jordan_U> nekro: What happens when you try to boot from CD?
[04:23] <nekro> jack
[04:23] <slipkid08> lol
[04:23] <slipkid08> nice answer
[04:23] <nekro> its true. nothing happens
[04:23] <nekro> hmm...
[04:23] <crus> slipkid08: for a better understanding you would be better off visiting the website i replied to you with
[04:24] <hylian> nekro, do you have 2 hard drives?
[04:24] <nekro> nope
[04:24] <slipkid08> Check your CD/DVD Cables and make sure none are turned upside down
[04:24] <nekro> one hard drive, and a USB drive it THINKS is a HDD
[04:24] <Jordan_U> nekro: "nothing happens" is almost never a useful description. You insert a CD, press the power button and ... ?
[04:24] <nekro> they can't be upside down
[04:24] <slipkid08> ok
[04:24] <slipkid08> so the problem is that it's trying to continue booting from the USB, correct?
[04:25] <hylian> nekro, yeah, they are actually designed to do that. is this a live cd image put on the key, or was it an attempt to install ubuntu straight to the usb key?
[04:25] <nekro> Jordan_U, it boots, loads the hardware analyzer (shows my hardware) and then hangs
[04:25] <nekro> no matter what i do
[04:25] <cjs> Why is the anki package in 10.04 version 1.2.8, but in 11.04 rolled back to 1.0.x? Am I getting it from somewhere else, even though it doesn't look like it from sources.list? How do I tell where a package is coming from?
[04:25] <nekro> if i direct it to boot from the USB i get a geom erro
[04:25] <nekro> r
[04:25] <Jordan_U> nekro: And if you direct it to boot from the internal drive?
[04:25] <slipkid08> hm
[04:26] <nekro> same thing as disk drive
[04:26] <urlin2u> hylian, slipkid08 may I suggest we let Jordan_U take care of this they are more then qualified and all the other help is causing more problems.
[04:26] <hylian> urlin2u, sounds grand to me :)
[04:26] <slipkid08> fine. Just trying to help
[04:26] <Jordan_U> nekro: Does the machine have a floppy drive?
[04:26] <nekro> nope
[04:27] <cjs> Ok, simpler question: how do I tell what line in /etc/apt/sources.list is bringing in a particular package?
[04:27] <urlin2u> slipkid08, I like helpng but you have to know when to hold them so to speak. ;-)
[04:27] <Jordan_U> nekro: Can you take the internal drive out of the problematic machine and put it in a working machine?
[04:27] <nekro> i only have this machine
[04:27] <nekro> the previous machine it was in worked
[04:27] <nekro> this machine and the problematic one
[04:28] <slipkid08> I do this for a living. I deal with these problems daily. Just trying to help him troubleshoot is all. Been doing it for 15 years. :)
[04:28] <hylian> Jordan_U, i think he actually had it installed to the usb key, thereby actually installing grub to it's master boot record, so this is probably not a live cd image unetbootin type install.
[04:28] <Jordan_U> cjs: "apt-cache policy packagename" will give enough information that you should be able to determine the line in the sources.list (or in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/foo.lst ).
[04:30]  * hylian must drift off to the land of nod.
[04:30] <nekro> hylian: its installing from the USB to ym SATA
[04:30] <cjs> Jordan_U: Thanks. So the new 1.2 one comes from lucid-updates/universe, and the old 1.0 one comes from natty/universe. What does this mean?
[04:31] <hylian> nekro, it might actually be the cd drive that is causing this error. I would love to help you further, but I need to leave. :(
[04:31] <cjs> Jordan_U: Oh, wait, I'm misreading it, I think....
[04:31] <hylian> nekro, if you have the time, try this install again after removing the cd/dvd drive.
[04:31] <Jordan_U> nekro: You are able to boot from the USB drive if you unplug the internal drive?
[04:31] <cjs> Jordan_U: Oh, got it. The "100 /var/lib/dpkg/status" for my new version means I must have grabbed a package file and installed it manually.
[04:32] <cjs> Jordan_U: Problem solved. Thanks!
[04:32] <Jordan_U> cjs: You're welcome :)
[04:33] <nekro> that didnt work...
[04:35] <Jordan_U> nekro: What didn't work?
[04:35] <nekro> disabling the CD drive
[04:35] <nekro> and the HDD
[04:35] <nekro> and USB booting
[04:35] <Jordan_U> nekro: Disabling by unplugging?
[04:36] <nekro> telling the BIOS to not boot them
[04:36] <Jordan_U> nekro: I need clarification. If you unplug the internal drive can you successfully boot from USB?
[04:36] <nekro> i have yet to unplug the internal drive
[04:37] <nekro> seriously, i spent a few days putting it together, only to find that the mobo was faulty, two weeks ago
[04:37] <nekro> i just got a new one back
[04:37] <nekro> and got it all put together
[04:39] <Jordan_U> nekro: I assume you have tried unplugging the USB drive and booting from the internal (after re-enabling it in the BIOS)?
[04:39] <nekro> yes
[04:41] <Jordan_U> nekro: Do you have another linux machine you can work from to try some changes to the USB drive?
[04:41] <nekro> i've never ran linux, only win
[04:41] <nekro> and a little mac
[04:41] <Jordan_U> nekro: Do you have a mac available?
[04:41] <kev> kev
[04:42] <nekro> no, just my windows. the mac was at school.
[04:42] <Jordan_U> nekro: Or, can you boot from the USB drive on another machine?
[04:42] <Peddy> where are the keyboard configuration files stored? mine keep reverting to a bad default
[04:42] <nekro> Jordan_U, yes
[04:43] <Jordan_U> nekro: Please do that, then rejoin here and tell me when you're done.
[04:43] <nekro> im on said machine
[04:43] <nekro> o-o
[04:43] <nekro> i've already booted this machine on from the USB
[04:43] <nekro> thats how i tested it
[04:44] <Jordan_U> nekro: So you're booted from the Ubuntu liveUSB currently (from a non-problematic machine)?
[04:48] <Jordan_U> nekro: Assuming that the answer to my previous question is yes, can you run "sudo fdisk -l" and pastebin the output?
[04:52] <ObrienDave> !pastbin
[04:52] <ObrienDave> !pastebin
[04:53] <bambanx> hello
[04:53] <ObrienDave> bambanx: greets
[04:53] <ParkerR> bambanx, hello
[04:54] <bambanx> guys i amnew on ubuntu / linux anyone can help me? i install fancontrol with: sudo apt-get insyall fancontrol
[04:54] <bambanx> and i dont know where it is :/
[04:54] <FFTai> I'm not familiar with the package
[04:54] <FFTai> give me a second to check it out
[04:55] <bambanx> ok
[04:55] <Sna4x8> Jordan_U: Any input?  I boot to the live cd, apt-get install mdadm ; mdadm --assemble --scan ; mkdir /mnt/temp ; mount --bind /dev /mnt/temp/dev ; mount --bind /sys /mnt/temp/sys ; mount --bind /proc /mnt/temp/proc ; chroot /mnt/temp ; update-grub2 "Found Microsoft Windows XP Professional on /dev/mapper/isw_beagebhcda_RAID_Volumn1p1\ndone."
[04:56] <Sna4x8> Ubuntu is not detected.  The ubuntu raid array mounts fine.
[04:56] <Sna4x8> No idea what I need to do to get a good grub.cfg from here.
[04:56] <Jordan_U> Sna4x8: Can you pastebin the output of "ls /boot/"?
[04:56] <Sna4x8> Sure, sec.
[04:56] <FFTai> hrm bambanx, can you describe what you're trying to do?
[04:57] <bambanx> fftai i installed fancontrol is a software for read temperature ... and is it installed but i dont know how run it
[04:58] <FFTai> okay
[04:58] <FFTai> try typing pwmconfig
[04:58] <bambanx> ok
[04:58] <FFTai> wait, you're a newbie right?
[04:58] <FFTai> it's sudo pwmconfig = )
[04:58] <bambanx> yes
[04:58] <bambanx> =)
[04:58] <FFTai> that will make a config file
[04:58] <FFTai> i assume it will ask you where to save it
[04:59] <FFTai> and then you can't type sudo fancontrol /where/ever/you/stuck/the/file
[04:59] <FFTai> can type*
[04:59] <FFTai> http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/man/fancontrol
[04:59] <FFTai> that'll give you more info
[04:59] <bambanx> fftai you ave teamviewer?
[04:59] <FFTai> no
[04:59] <bambanx> ok
[04:59] <Karen_m> libre office or open office?  which should I be using?
[04:59] <Sna4x8> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/HyWhna3k
[04:59] <ObrienDave> brb
[05:00] <FFTai> I'm not touching someone else's box, sorry
[05:00] <bambanx> ok
[05:00] <Sna4x8> I tried to run update-initramfs -u earlier.
[05:00] <ParkerR> Karen_m, Libre office is the attempt to get away from oracle
[05:00] <marhell> Hey, I have a litle problem whit my ubuntu 10.04 version. My cursor doesent show, but the mouse still works. Yesterday i came here for help and got all these ways to try to fix it and it didnt.
[05:00] <Karen_m> same software, just fork?
[05:00] <bambanx> i am fighting with ubuntu and trying to dont back to windows lol
[05:00] <bambanx> but is a new world  for me
[05:00] <ParkerR> Karen_m, pretty much
[05:01] <bkerensa> bambanx: Give it a chance and you will love it
[05:01] <FFTai> you'll get the hang of it
[05:01] <Karen_m> bambanx, stay with it, you will LOVE it
[05:01] <nekro> Jordan_U, hmm?
[05:01] <Jordan_U> Sna4x8: Your problem is that you don't have any kernel in /boot/. Did you forget to mount your /boot/ partition?
[05:01] <nekro> on THIS machine?
[05:01] <FFTai> and then in a while you'll go back to a windows computer for some reason and curse every minute of it
[05:01] <Jordan_U> nekro: Yes.
[05:02] <bambanx> i have a lot of love
[05:02] <nekro> Well, actually i had a spit of luck. i might be abl to get a friend of mine who is a computer technician to look at it
[05:02] <bambanx> =)
[05:02] <ParkerR> Aww my I dont have a fan sensor that supports pwm XD
[05:02] <marhell> Ok, ill try again later.
[05:03] <ParkerR> r/my/
[05:03] <TBotNik> Hey, Got a webmin install that will not go in right.  I keep doing an apt-get purge on it, but normal install pops-up a screen for MySQL DB install, this does not and when I finish there is no DB in MySQL and though login screen comes up, will not let me login.  Anyone seen this before?
[05:04] <bambanx> fftai what mean that: sudo fancontrol /where/ever/you/stuck/the/file
[05:04] <G00053> if i'm dual-booting with fedora how can i fix permission automagically ? (using the same /home)
[05:04] <FFTai> bamb, do you know how file system works in linux?
[05:04] <bambanx> nope
[05:04] <FFTai> hrm
[05:04] <bambanx> =(
[05:04] <FFTai> let me find you a basic unix tutorial or something
[05:05] <FFTai> you know how in windows you have like c:\users\bambanx\Desktop\porn
[05:05] <nekro> Jordan_U, also, it might also be a dead HDD
[05:05] <cire_> need help
[05:05] <FFTai> in Unix you have / as the root
[05:05] <bambanx> o men today i read all day trying to install my basic software
[05:05] <bambanx> yes
[05:05] <cire_> i just installed xubuntu
[05:05] <FFTai> and then it's /users/home/bambanx/Desktop/porn
[05:05] <cire_> the sound does not work
[05:05] <ObrienDave> Karen_m: from what I understand most of the major developers have left OpenOffice to work on LibreOffice since Oracle decided to donate the source code to the Apache foundation. or something like that.
[05:06] <urlin2u> FFTai, it is in user/bin     and probably need more than just that app
[05:06] <FFTai> the config file?
[05:06] <_aaron_> hi
[05:06] <urlin2u> FFTai, the trigger to lay=unch
[05:06] <urlin2u> launch
[05:06] <FFTai> ah, gotcha
[05:07] <Sna4x8> Jordan_U: Thank you for pointing out the obvious.  I think that will get me going.  I added a different partition for /boot/ a while ago.
[05:07] <urlin2u> FFTai, I would try a desktop launcher
[05:07] <usr13> !audio | cire_
[05:07] <urlin2u> FFTai, I know your helping tthe other user '-)
[05:08] <Jordan_U> Sna4x8: You're welcome :)
[05:09] <_aaron_> I'm looking for information on making a ubuntu RIS server to install muti OS's
[05:09] <FFTai> yeah, I'd have to play around a bit with it to know what's going on, i was just following the wiki for what he wanted to do
[05:09] <usr13> !webmin | TBotNik
[05:09] <cire_> thanks usr 13
[05:09] <Jordan_U> nekro: I'm thinking that it's most likely a buggy BIOS which passes a garbage value via the dl register (which is where the BIOS is supposed to store the number of the drive that was booted from).
[05:10] <urlin2u> _aaron_, wht's up.
[05:10] <urlin2u> what's
[05:10] <TBotNik> usr13: Dang, it is the only tool that works Samba right the first time.
[05:10] <nekro> so how would i fix that
[05:10] <bambanx> what can i do bro fftai
[05:10] <bambanx> for run fancontrol
[05:11] <_aaron_> urlin2u, I'm looking for information on making a ubuntu RIS server to install muti OS's
[05:11] <usr13> !swat | TBotNik
[05:11] <ParkerR> O.O Hey KittyGirl
[05:11] <FFTai> did you build a config file?
[05:11] <Jordan_U> nekro: By installing boot code which ignores what the BIOS passes in the dl register and simply assumes that it needs to read from the first drive.
[05:11] <ParkerR> Karen_m, i line winetricks and Office 2003 too :)
[05:11] <ParkerR> *I like
[05:12] <bambanx> sudo fancontrol /where/ever/you/stuck/the/file
[05:12] <FFTai> no
[05:12] <TBotNik> usr13: SWAT and GADMIN-Samba are worthless, don't do anything right.  Can't handle any smbclient calls.
[05:12] <FFTai> to be honest, this might be a bit above your head
[05:12] <usr13> TBotNik: You're better off manually editing the cofig files anyway.
[05:13] <usr13> *config
[05:13] <Karen_m> ParkerR, ok i will google that
[05:13] <FFTai> let me install it just so i can see what it does
[05:13] <TBotNik> usr13: Ur right on that, both those blot the smb.conf with useless and conflicting commands and so it never works.
[05:13] <ParkerR> Karen_m, that was mostly a joke
[05:13] <_aaron_> urlin2u, nvm i'm getting help with it on #ubuntu-server
[05:14] <urlin2u> _aaron_, cool
[05:15] <usr13> TBotNik: It's been my experience that most applications that try to guess what you want and write to the config files don't do it very well.
[05:15] <FFTai> ^^^^^^^
[05:16] <usr13> TBotNik: ... you have to go in behind and clean up errors.
[05:17] <esson> hello world
[05:17] <edbian> esson: Hello esson
[05:19] <ParkerR> Hey edbian, how goes it?
[05:19] <edbian> ParkerR: Good.  Need help with Ubuntu?
[05:19] <ParkerR> edbian, naah just seeing how you were doing
[05:19] <sgerbino> anyone able to get live galaxy compiz plugin working in 11.04?
[05:19] <edbian> I'm good :)
[05:20] <jinu> when I make C file using this 'make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r` SUBDIRS=$PWD modules', I got error like this error: implicit declaration of function ‘user_path_walk
[05:20] <DoYouKnow> are there any tools for linux firefox that will speed up downloads like there is for IE?
[05:20] <DoYouKnow> managing the number of sockets?
[05:20] <urlin2u> sgerbino, what is that in, inside compiz, I don't see it
[05:21] <TBotNik> usr13: I use WebMin because I control all these remote boxes and most are not Ubuntu.
[05:21] <FFTai> DoYouKnow, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/
[05:22] <sgerbino> urlin2u: first you install an additional ppa, and the package compiz-plugins-livewallpapers
[05:22] <DoYouKnow> thanks
[05:22] <sgerbino> urlin2u: http://ilapstech.blogspot.com/2010/10/galaxy-live-wallpaper-like-compiz.html
[05:23] <sgerbino> i tried compiling from source, and ppa -- no one seems to have it working in 11.04 that i've found
[05:25] <prashant_> how to install java runtime environment ??
[05:25] <prashant_> anyone here to help ??
[05:27] <FFTai> hey guys, while i'm helping bamb, I have a display issue if anyone has some time
[05:27] <FFTai> I have an old LCD tv that has a native resolution of 1366 x 768
[05:27] <ParkerR> :D I love wine http://i.imgur.com/C0g1D.jpg
[05:28] <FFTai> when it's hooked up to my box via HDMI, the task bars are outside of the screen
[05:28] <edbian> ParkerR: gross
[05:28] <prashant_> how to install jre in ubuntu 11.04 ??
[05:28] <ParkerR> And speaking of 1366x768 XD
[05:28] <FFTai> just right outside
[05:28] <sgerbino> ParkerR: ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[05:28] <ParkerR> edbian, :P
[05:28] <sgerbino> i agree with edbian :p
[05:28] <FFTai> I've tried decreasing it down to 1200x768, but it doesn't really help
[05:28] <ParkerR> I like 2007. Better than any open source alternative imo
[05:28] <FFTai> any ideaS?
[05:28] <sgerbino> ParkerR: meh libre does the job for meh
[05:32] <Sna4x8> Jordan_U: Disc golf clap (a normal clap that involves spilling beer). You're the man.
[05:32] <Jordan_U> FFTai: See if the TV has an option labeled something like "overscan".
[05:32] <FFTai> nope
[05:32] <FFTai> it's an older tv
[05:33] <FFTai> I've checked all the settings I can on the tv's end
[05:33] <FFTai> and there is nothing i can do there
[05:33] <Jordan_U> FFTai: Overscan is something that's been around since the dawn of TV.
[05:34] <FFTai> haha, trust me, I've been through ever setting this tv has
[05:34] <kapnobatai> hello
[05:34] <FFTai> vizio vw32l hdtv10a
[05:34] <kapnobatai> does anyone know how may I install on natty libboost-dev 1.40 side by side with libboost-dev 1.42 (current - stable) ?
[05:34] <FFTai> if you don't believe me
[05:34] <ParkerR> Office is the one thing that MS does right, imo
[05:34] <edbian> FFTai: Might help to have the TV plugged in when the computer is booting.
[05:35] <FFTai> done that too
[05:36] <FFTai> it doesn't detect the native resolution
[05:36] <FFTai> which is fine because I can just add it in
[05:36] <FFTai> but it still puts the edges outside of the screen
[05:36] <FFTai> which, some stations have their logo half cut off
[05:37] <FFTai> so I think it might be the way the tv normally displays?
[05:37] <Peddy> !oneric
[05:37] <FFTai> so I was trying to think of a way to just add like a few px of black space or something to the top and bottom
[05:37] <prashant_> how to install java runtime environment in ubuntu 11.04 ??
[05:37] <bullgard4_> Audacity > Effect > Normalize is grayed out. How can I change this?
[05:38] <FFTai> sudo apt-get install sun-java6
[05:39] <ParkerR> Or openjdk-6-jre
[05:39] <Jordan_U> FFTai: Do you have an Nvidia graphics card?
[05:39] <FFTai> no
[05:39] <FFTai> i'm running an integrated card on my mobo
[05:39] <bullgard4_> prashant_: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Java/Installation
[05:39] <FFTai> this is my hdtv which i threw together as cheap as possible
[05:39] <FFTai> a lot of salvaged parts
[05:40] <FFTai> geez ParkerR, it's like you believe in free software or something xD
[05:40] <ParkerR> XD
[05:40] <FFTai> so I just got a mobo with an hdmi port
[05:40] <Jordan_U> FFTai: If you can find an NVidia card nvidia-settings has an overscan correction option.
[05:40] <FFTai> hrm, that's a good idea
[05:42] <Jordan_U> FFTai: From searching around it appears to be possible with intel cards as well, though more difficult.
[05:43] <FFTai> yeah, a nvidia card with hdmi might be the only option in this case...or just live with the task bars slightly out of reach
[05:43] <ParkerR> FFTai, better man than I XD
[05:43] <ParkerR> I hate overscan XD
[05:44] <FFTai> it's the bane of my existence right now
[05:44] <ParkerR> Although I have an nvidia chip so... XD
[05:46] <r3b00t> soooo.. I re-installed ubuntu on my netbook and now cant get wifi to turn on
[05:46] <FFTai> if I wasn't without a job for 5 months, i'd just order one xD
[05:46] <FFTai> what's your chipset r2b00t
[05:47] <r3b00t> broadcom
[05:47] <FFTai> just trying manually installing the wrapper
[05:47] <r3b00t> ?
[05:47] <FFTai> ndis_wrapper
[05:47] <ParkerR> FFTai, broadcom should be supported without ndoswrapper
[05:47] <ParkerR> *ndiswrapper
[05:47] <r3b00t> i cant even find the damn terminal on this version
[05:47] <FFTai> ParkerR, since when?
[05:47] <ParkerR> alt f2
[05:48] <ParkerR> gnome-terminal
[05:48] <Jordan_U> FFTai: Many years.
[05:48] <FFTai> ah
[05:48] <ParkerR> FFTai, since what I remember. Never had one in recent memory XD
[05:48]  * FFTai can't keep up with kids these days
[05:48] <ParkerR> Ahh
[05:48] <ParkerR> Hehe
[05:48] <FFTai> you kids and your new fangled toys
[05:48] <ParkerR> Intel Wifi link 5100 ftw!!
[05:48] <FFTai> \o/
[05:49] <Jordan_U> r3b00t: System Settings > Additional Drivers
[05:49] <FFTai> so, did broadcom finally stop being douchebags long enough to release native drivers?
[05:49] <lewis93> Is it possible to get iTunes in Ubuntu 11.04 at all? I know it doesn't work through Wine.
[05:49] <r3b00t> k so run what to activate my wifi?
[05:49] <ParkerR> lewis93, no
[05:49] <ParkerR> lewis93, and why the hell would you want to?
[05:49] <ParkerR> No offense
[05:50]  * FFTai remembers when he had to spend two weeks configuring ndis_wrapper manually to get wifi
[05:50] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: Please watch your language.
[05:50] <ParkerR> Sorry
[05:50] <lewis93> ParkerR, none taken - I can't synchronise my iPod Touch with gtkpod or Banshee properly. It doesn't take in to account things like Apps, and I prefer iTunes' layout and interface.
[05:50] <r3b00t> well I had this exact same friggen CD install of ubuntu and had wifi...
[05:50] <r3b00t> now it wont work
[05:50] <lewis93> ParkerR, could I run Windows inside of Ubuntu just for iTunes, or is there no such thing?
[05:50] <Jordan_U> r3b00t: System Settings > Additional Drivers
[05:51] <ParkerR> lewis93, well even if it did launch you wouldnt be able to sync
[05:51] <lewis93> ParkerR, why not?
[05:51] <Jordan_U> lewis93: Yes, using Virtualbox.
[05:51] <ParkerR> lewis93, yes with vmware player or virtualbox
[05:51] <ParkerR> vmware player has better USB support
[05:51] <lewis93> ParkerR, so I could sync my iPod that way?
[05:51] <bullgard4_> Audacity > Effect > Normalize is grayed out. How can I change this?
[05:51] <ParkerR> Yes afaik
[05:52] <FFTai> lewis, does amarok do what you want?
[05:52] <r3b00t> jordan it doesnt work
[05:52] <lewis93> FFTai, I don't know what amarok is sorry
[05:52] <r3b00t> downloading packge indexes failed, please check your network status.
[05:53] <FFTai> you might check it out
[05:53] <FFTai> it's sort of like iTunes, but, i prefer it to iTunes
[05:53] <ParkerR> lewis93, banshee or rhythmbox with libgpod should sync music
[05:53] <FFTai> and it should sync with your iPod
[05:53] <Jordan_U> bullgard4_: Is it the only thing greyed out? Do you have playback paused instead of completely stopped?
[05:53] <ParkerR> And you can use libimboiledevice to install apps
[05:53] <ParkerR> ideviceinstaller
[05:54] <r3b00t> anyone have any idea
[05:54] <lewis93> ParkerR, how do I get those things? Would it be better to do it that way or should I use amarok like FFTai suggested?
[05:54] <bullgard4_> Jordan_U: No, almost all entries of Audacity > Effect menu are grayed out.
[05:55] <Jordan_U> bullgard4_: Then you probably have playback paused but not stopped. Hit the stop button.
[05:55] <FFTai> try both ways and see what you like lewis
[05:55] <ParkerR> lewis93, if you are going for natively syncing apps ideviceinstaller is what you need
[05:55] <FFTai> isn't that installed by default with amarok now though?
[05:56] <FFTai> ah, I gtg
[05:56] <FFTai> bye
[05:56] <ParkerR> FFTai, is it? I didnt know amarok did appp syncing
[05:56] <ParkerR> *app
[05:56] <marhell> hey, I have this weird cursor problem, Anyone who could help me with it?
[05:57] <lewis93> ParkerR, I will give Amarok a go and see if it has app synching. If not, then I'll use ideviceinstaller. How do I get that though? Is it in Ubuntu Software Centre?
[05:57] <lewis93> Center*
[05:57] <Jordan_U> r3b00t: Can you connect to the internet via ethernet temporarily?
[05:57] <prashant_> bullgard4, its not working
[05:57] <r3b00t> yeah
[05:58] <ParkerR> lewis93, you have to compile it but it isnt too bad http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1471018
[05:58] <Jordan_U> r3b00t: Do that, then use Additional Drivers.
[05:58] <lewis93> All right cheers :)
[06:00] <r3b00t> Jordan_U: downloading
[06:00] <bullgard4_> Jordan_U: This works. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[06:01] <Jordan_U> bullgard4_: You're welcome.
[06:01] <r3b00t> Jordan_U: it says no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[06:02] <Jordan_U> r3b00t: Can you pastebin the output of "lspci -vnn"?
[06:03] <r3b00t> whats weird there is a little sliding switch on the front of my netbook, it is used to turn on/off wifi.. it wont turn it on it stays red
[06:05] <JuNeX> hi! is there any way i can connect my bluetoothheadset in my ubuntu while watching movies or listening music?
[06:05] <r3b00t> http://pastebin.com/bHytAq1L
[06:06] <prashant_> java plugin missing can anyone guide me through it ubuntu 11.04
[06:06] <JuNeX> im using ubuntu 10.10
[06:07] <prashant_> ??
[06:07] <prashant_> any solutions
[06:07] <r3b00t> Jordan_U: see anything in there?
[06:08] <ParkerR> prashant_, try sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[06:08] <ParkerR> Or use Google Chrome
[06:09] <wildbat> !java
[06:09] <prashant_> ParkerR, i have installed it but my browser is showing plugin missing
[06:09] <wildbat> JuNeX: just pair it with your PC .
[06:10] <Jordan_U> r3b00t: That wireless card should be supported by the open source b43 drivers and the proprietary STA drivers.
[06:10] <r3b00t> nothing came up on that list
[06:10] <JuNeX> @wildbat i can't pair it to my pc.. the pc can't see it
[06:10] <prashant_> ParkerR,
[06:10] <groktar> hi, i'm having trouble setting up postfix on my ubuntu server.  nothing can authenticate with it. i don't suppose anyone would take a look at my log? http://paste.ubuntu.com/668924/
[06:10] <ParkerR> prashant_, what?
[06:11] <prashant_> ParkerR, i have installed it but my browser is showing plugin missing
[06:11] <ParkerR> wildbat had a good suggestion
[06:12] <r3b00t> ugh
[06:13] <ParkerR> prashant_, sudo synaptic, then Settings > Repositories > Other software. Check the first two boxes
[06:13] <JuNeX> i tried setting up new device but its been 20 mins now and my bluetoothheadset can't bee found. its still searching
[06:13] <ParkerR> The click close then reload
[06:13] <ParkerR> *Then
[06:13] <ParkerR> And search sun-java6-plugin
[06:14] <JuNeX> i still can pair it
[06:14] <JuNeX> i mean Can't pair it
[06:14] <r3b00t> anybody else have any idea why my wifi wont turn on?
[06:14] <prashant_> ParkerR, ok then ??
[06:15] <ParkerR> Did you install the plguin?
[06:15] <r3b00t> plugin?
[06:15] <prashant_> ParkerR, now what to do ?
[06:15] <ParkerR> Then restart firefox if it is open
[06:15] <ParkerR> And load a page with java
[06:16] <G0R> r3b00t: load the module for it with modprobe and see if that helps
[06:16] <abhay_> i need help in v4l2 driver
[06:16] <abhay_> abyone there
[06:16] <Jordan_U> r3b00t: Try "sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer".
[06:16] <r3b00t> G0R: how do you use modprobe?
[06:17] <prashant_> ParkerR, i did it but it says java plugin missing
[06:17] <ParkerR> Did you follow all those steps?
[06:17] <G0R> r3b00t: just type "modprobe modulename"
[06:17] <urlin2u> JuNeX, here is ubuntu forums link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1761433
[06:18] <r3b00t> Jordan_U: got an error on installation
[06:18] <ParkerR> G0R, Umm hemmight need the module name
[06:18] <ParkerR> *he might
[06:18] <G0R> ParkerR: that's for him to find out, I don't know what hardware he has
[06:18] <Jordan_U> r3b00t: Please pastebin the complete output.
[06:18] <urlin2u> JuNeX, I also find at least 2 bugs on the web as well.
[06:19] <JuNeX> im gonna try this link. sorry but im still a newbie here in ubuntu
[06:19] <r3b00t> Jordan_U: https://pastebin.com/EnDWt0dw
[06:20] <JuNeX> @urlin2u where can i open this -- > /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf
[06:20] <ParkerR> JuNeX, nano /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf
[06:20] <Jordan_U> r3b00t: That appears to be empty.
[06:21] <r3b00t> what does?
[06:21] <urlin2u> JuNeX, in the terminal run sudo gedit /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf    or nano as suggested, geidt is maybe easier for a new user
[06:21] <Jordan_U> r3b00t: Never mind, it's some problem with the page or my browser.
[06:21] <r3b00t> Jordan_U: started with "Not supported low-power chip with PCI id 14e4:4315"
[06:22] <r3b00t> thats what threw the code
[06:22] <JuNeX> Thanks Parker
[06:22] <JuNeX> got it.. i already opened the .conf file
[06:22] <ParkerR> Np
[06:23] <Jordan_U> r3b00t: OK. "sudo apt-get remove firmware-b43-installer" will hopefully at least remove it again.
[06:23] <JuNeX> @urlin2u should i follow whats on the link?
[06:24] <urlin2u> JuNeX, not sure really, I was just looking at the web for answers.
[06:24] <r3b00t> removed
[06:25] <JuNeX> ahh ok.. im also looking in the web but no success..
[06:25] <urlin2u> JuNeX, those lines can be removed if that doesn't work.
[06:25] <r3b00t> Jordan_U: http://techie-buzz.com/foss/wifi-ubuntu-install-broadcom-drivers.html would that apply to me?
[06:25] <JuNeX> ok.. i'll try it. i'll just save this default .conf file
[06:25] <JuNeX> :D
[06:25] <betanick> hi ubuntu
[06:26] <ParkerR> Hello betanick
[06:26] <megaloman> Narwhal is teh awesome.
[06:26] <betanick> can i ask a non ubuntu question in #ubuntu?
[06:27] <JuNeX> i got this error..  [ Error writing /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf: Permission denied ]
[06:27] <rww> betanick: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support only. #ubuntu-offtopic is for non-support chat.
[06:27] <r3b00t> Jordan_U: damn my b43-fwcutter is already most current
[06:27] <betanick> rww: ty
[06:28]  * r3b00t kicks ubuntu!!!!
[06:28] <r3b00t> why wont you work!
[06:28] <urlin2u> JuNeX, open it with inn the terminal sudo gedit /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf
[06:28] <ParkerR> r3b00t, sometimes there are low pwer bugs
[06:29] <JuNeX> ahh ok
[06:29] <ParkerR> Like my wifi wont work in Windows so I reboot and activate the chip in something else and them when I go back to windows irt works
[06:29] <ParkerR> *then
[06:29] <ParkerR> *it
[06:29] <ParkerR> Or like when I used wubi
[06:29] <marhell> Hey, could anyone help me with a mouse/cursor problem?
[06:30] <r3b00t> here is the ting
[06:30] <r3b00t> thing*
[06:30] <ParkerR> If I turned my bluetooth radio off in windows and rebooted to Ubuntu it would stay off and not activate at all
[06:30] <ParkerR> Reactivating in Windows and back to Ubuntu turned it on
[06:30] <r3b00t> I had this exact same installation from the same CD and everything about a month ago.. i took it off and now am putting it back on.. now it doesnt work
[06:30] <r3b00t> when I had it a month ago it DID work
[06:30] <JuNeX> still i can't pair it with my bluetooth
[06:31] <Jordan_U> r3b00t: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[06:31] <JuNeX> still can't pair it with my bluetooth headset
[06:31] <r3b00t> I did lshw -C network and it says network Disabled, wireless interface wlan0
[06:31] <r3b00t> so I know it sees wlan0 it just wont turn it on
[06:32] <megaloman> Does emacs23 play well with narwhal?
[06:32] <betanick> r3b00t: ifconfig wlan0 up?
[06:32] <r3b00t> one sec.. installing something
[06:32] <r3b00t> ooOoOoh my wifi light came on
[06:32] <urlin2u> r3b00t, you might try another distro for comparison maybe it is the switch
[06:33] <urlin2u> cool
[06:33] <r3b00t> brb testing
[06:33] <Pippi_Longstock> how should i simulate deb package to check their dependencies?
[06:34] <widewake> hello, recently my browsing speed has been cut in half, my page loading via mozilla and other applications are taking minutes too long.. no idea what it could be, i have full bars. i took a speed test and my results are harsh
[06:34] <widewake> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1438216153.png
[06:36] <tensorpudding> your download rate is 2.56 MB/s?
[06:36] <tensorpudding> that's faster than mine
[06:36] <tripelb> What is error -71 and how could I find that out for myself: context: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 58  (newline) [449024.716024] usb 4-2.1: device not accepting address 58, error -71 (newline) [449024.718061] hub 4-2:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1  AND does enumerate mean mount?  -- I've been asking this for 3 days now. Please give me some sugar.
[06:37] <r3b00t> hmm wont connect
[06:37] <widewake> anyone know how to speed up browser speed? or what the problem may be? just last week there was no problem, now i can barely load pages. im also looking though google..
[06:37] <DebiansArmy> JuNeX: Here is something new.... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/bluetooth-configuration-where-is-it-stored-on-debian-895907/
[06:37] <tensorpudding> it's almost surely your ISP's fault
[06:38] <ParkerR> widewake, type about:config
[06:38] <ParkerR> Then type ipv6
[06:38] <r3b00t> aw WTF... i cant get on my network OR the unsecured network...
[06:38] <r3b00t> it just sits there and tries to connect
[06:38] <widewake> ParkerR,  terminal?
[06:38] <ParkerR> No in firefox
[06:38] <widewake> k
[06:38] <ParkerR> And then doubleclick where it says false and it will turn to true
[06:39] <ParkerR> Then restart firefox
[06:39] <betanick> r3b00t: what if you assign an ip?
[06:39] <r3b00t> does ubuntu have some stupid firewall built inor something?
[06:39] <r3b00t> lemme try that
[06:39] <widewake> ParkerR,  its true already
[06:39] <ParkerR> Hmm
[06:39] <ParkerR> Ok
[06:39] <widewake> ParkerR, ill refresh it just for funs
[06:39] <ParkerR> Weird. Dunno then
[06:39] <JuNeX> Thanks DebiansArmy.. i'll try this one now.. i also find a link now im trying to figure it out. --> http://madebynathan.com/2010/04/29/how-to-use-a-bluetooth-headset-on-ubuntu-9-10/
[06:40] <JuNeX> im trying if this version will be ok on 10.10
[06:41] <r3b00t> where do I config my own ip?
[06:42] <r3b00t> found it..
[06:44] <r3b00t> still not working
[06:44] <r3b00t> WTF!
[06:45] <betanick> r3b00t: can you ping your router?
[06:45] <r3b00t> it keeps asking me for my WPA password.. but Im typing it correctly every time..
[06:46] <urlin2u> widewake, have you checked with a speed test on the web?
[06:46] <uabn93> r3b00t: are you on a laptop under wifi?
[06:46] <r3b00t> nope it says network is unreachable
[06:46] <widewake> urlin2u,  yes, http://www.speedtest.net/result/1438216153.png
[06:47] <r3b00t> no im on my desktop wired into my router
[06:47] <betanick> r3b00t: is you wpa a long password if so maybe use 1234test for now?
[06:47] <r3b00t> the other machine with ubuntu is a laptop
[06:47] <r3b00t> its the same Ive been using for over a year
[06:48] <r3b00t> the same one that works on my other laptop, my phone, my tablet
[06:48] <somsip> r3b00t: definitely worthwhile removing password for testing. I've had some laptops with some OSes just refuse to connect to a WPA SSID
[06:48] <r3b00t> well i refuse to NOT have security
[06:48] <somsip> r3b00t: then you won't know if it's a password issue or not
[06:49] <betanick> r3b00t: just for a quick test
[06:49] <DebiansArmy> JuNeX: Ran across several people complaining they have to manual start bluetooth to get headset to work or to connect to ubuntu
[06:49] <uabn93> just do it temporarily
[06:49] <r3b00t> k brb lemme remove it
[06:50] <Jordan_U> r3b00t: I would try shutting down and starting back up again (not simply rebooting as that won't reset the wireless card completely).
[06:51] <DebiansArmy> JuNeX: Here may be a better way to start this bluetooth idea... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1463610&highlight=bluetooth+headset+sound+issue
[06:52] <JuNeX> @DebianArmy i see... how can i manually start my bluetooth? tried some in the web but it wont still pair.. also downloaded the bluetooth manager got no luck
[06:52] <uabn93> Jordan_U: its strange, he said hes using a wired connection
[06:52] <JuNeX> @debianArmy ok.. i'll check the link
[06:52] <JuNeX> thanks
[06:52] <shomon> hi, can I install thunderbird 6 via apt somehow yet?
[06:52] <shomon> in 10.10
[06:52] <Jordan_U> uabn93: I told him to connect via eithernet so that he could download wireless drivers.
[06:53] <Tophen> Could I get some simple networking help?
[06:53] <betanick> Tophen: yes
[06:53] <betanick> next
[06:53] <r3b00t> k changes applied.. no security
[06:53] <JuNeX> what is hcitool?
[06:54] <urlin2u> shomon, https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable
[06:54] <Tophen> Ok. I'm not great with this stuff.
 r3b00t: I would try shutting down and starting back up again (not simply rebooting as that won't reset the wireless card completely).
[06:54] <Tophen> Ok, but not great.
[06:54] <betanick> Tophen: that's ok
[06:54] <DebiansArmy> JuNeX: hold on cooking be right back...
[06:55] <Tophen> I'm at a boarding school at the boarding house. I can get wireless access as my friend got me on. I deleted the autoeth0 connection and I can't connect to the wired.
[06:55] <tripelb> How do I find what an error code means? I cant get my android to connect. someone told me to do dmesg and so I did and got this....
[06:55] <tripelb> What is error -71 and how could I find that out for myself: context: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 58  (newline) [449024.716024] usb 4-2.1: device not accepting address 58, error -71 (newline) [449024.718061] hub 4-2:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1  AND does enumerate mean mount?  -- I've been asking this for 3 days now. Please give me some sugar.
[06:55] <Tophen> I'm on another computer.
[06:55] <JuNeX> @debianArmy ok :D
[06:55] <r3b00t> grr now its not even showing up on the list
[06:55] <Tophen> There's an option when I click the network thing at the top. But it won't connect.
[06:55] <Tophen> I might have misconfigured.
[06:56] <shomon> urlin2u, thanks very much!
[06:56] <zi> Seems like ubuntu has equalized off the bass off of my headphone  output, why and how can I fix that?
[06:56] <r3b00t> oh there it is lol
[06:56] <r3b00t> k so still not connecting
[06:56] <LostyJai> I'm using 11.04 (Natty) and I setup automatic login, but when the computer restarts and I try to remote in via VNC, on the ubuntu screen it says I need to type password for login keyring or something?
[06:56] <LostyJai> how do I get rid of that
[06:56] <betanick> r3b00t: do you need to use b43?
[06:56] <r3b00t> shutting down, then restarting
[06:56] <urlin2u> shomon, no prob installing myself just for fun.;-)
[06:57] <ubuntu> 55555
[06:57] <betanick> r3b00t: what about modprobe?
[06:57] <Pippi_Longstock> no backport for maverick on samba 3.6.0?
[06:58] <r3b00t> hold on 1 thing at a time lol
[06:58] <glisstech> I am having an issue where when I start certain software apps, like virtualbox, or Quassel I am logged out of my session
[06:58] <glisstech> and I have found a reference to the gnome-keyring in the auth.log
[06:58] <DebiansArmy> JuNeX: Here is the link... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothAudio  For short it is the tool used to see the devices it scans in bluetooth
[06:59] <ubuntu> hi
[06:59] <Tophen> Yeah?
[06:59] <uabn93> hi
[07:00] <Tophen> About the thingo?
[07:00] <DebiansArmy> JuNeX: The problem is the bluetooth devices in 11.04 are dropping connectioon so some are manually forcing connection with the same result of a lost signal..
[07:00] <ubuntu> i have downloaded ubuntu ultimate edition 3.0 and i can not find software center
[07:00] <ubuntu> do u know where it is
[07:00] <JuNeX> @debianArmy ok i'll check this site. the Bluetooth manager still wont see my headset
[07:00] <JuNeX> @debianArmy ok.. but im using 10.10
[07:00] <Tophen> betanick?
[07:01] <ubuntu> if i download  ubuntu 11  is there anyway to have a normal desktop or does it have to look like a cell phone??
[07:01] <DebiansArmy> restart service sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart understand haven't seen any complaints of 10.10 dropping connectionn
[07:01] <betanick> Tophen: wireless?
[07:01] <Tophen> Wired.
[07:01] <thrasher456> @ubuntu the ultimate edition is for gamers ?
[07:01] <JuNeX> junexgodoy@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe snd-bt-sco
[07:01] <JuNeX> FATAL: Module snd_bt_sco not found.
[07:01] <r3b00t> okay still not connecting
[07:01] <ubuntu> yes thats the one i have
[07:02] <ubuntu> i am on it now
[07:02] <Tophen> I got on the wireless just fine becuase my friend knew admin pass.
[07:02] <ubuntu> but i cant find software center so i dont know if i want to install it
[07:02] <thrasher456> is it for gaming or what
[07:02] <glisstech> ubuntu: At the login screen, once you click on your login username, you will have the option below to choose Ubuntu Classic
[07:02] <Tophen> But now I can't work out how to get on wired.
[07:02] <ubuntu> its alright its got some decent games
[07:02] <ubuntu> i dont know if i want to install it though beause i need software cente rbeucase im a noob
[07:03] <ubuntu> and i dont know how to get it
[07:03] <thrasher456> sudo apt-install <software name>  try it
[07:03] <r3b00t> okay now what the F*** next
[07:03] <r3b00t> im ready to toss this out my window
[07:03] <ubuntu> no, i need the actual ubuntu software center
[07:03]  * r3b00t kicks ubuntu
[07:03] <ubuntu> ?
[07:04] <somsip> r3b00t: the best thing might be to take a break with what you are saying
[07:04] <tensorpudding> r3b00t: what's the issue
[07:04] <ubuntu> also when i try to install backtrack distro my wifi doesnt work
[07:04] <Misiex> hi who uses virtualbox ? how can i mount existing sata disk?
[07:04] <thrasher456> m on backtrack 5 right now
[07:04] <ubuntu> its really cool but i cant get my wifi to work in it
[07:04] <r3b00t> just installed ubuntu, it wont connect to the internet
[07:04] <ubuntu> otherwise id be using that
[07:05] <thrasher456> which card do u have for wifi i mean the adapter
[07:05] <ubuntu> it sees the networks  but it just says getting ip for a min then it says error
[07:05] <tensorpudding> r3b00t: what is your wifi chipset
[07:05] <r3b00t> broadcom
[07:05] <ubuntu> its usb wireless card belkin model f6d4050
[07:05] <overclucker> yuk, broadcom
[07:05] <tensorpudding> r3b00t: have you run Additional Drivers
[07:06] <betanick> r3b00t: what about modprobe?
[07:06] <shomon> I just did sudo apt-add-respsitory for the new thunderbird, and it keeps getting stuck and not inding the key from keyserver.ubuntu.com
[07:06] <tensorpudding> r3b00t: Ubuntu has some special drivers for some broadcom wifi
[07:06] <shomon> finding, that is... looking for ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable
[07:06] <r3b00t> modprobe?
[07:06] <r3b00t> yes I ran additional drivers nothing came up
[07:06] <ubuntu> the wifi didnt work on the live cd do u think it would work if i installed it?
[07:07] <tensorpudding> r3b00t: run 'sudo lshw -C network' in a terminal
[07:07] <ubuntu> thrasher is backtrack on ubuntu 11??
[07:07] <Derpella> Hello, I installed 10.10 on a fresh laptop, something went wrong when upgrading to natty, I used packet repair and succeeded, but desktop keeps refreshing and I can't even click any command.
[07:07] <r3b00t> lemme paste bin this
[07:08] <urlin2u> shomon, I saw some key not updated or something when I ran it but the key is on the page.
[07:08] <betanick> r3b00t: google modprobe broadcom
[07:08] <shomon> urlin2u, can you manually tell it the key?
[07:09] <r3b00t> http://pastebin.com/UsYNxHm5
[07:09] <Lasers> Derpella: Upgrading blows. Opt for a clean installation of 10.04 LTS or 11.04 on the laptop.
[07:10] <tensorpudding> 4312 should be supported by the standard wifi driver
[07:10] <Derpella> Lasers: can't burn dvd's, unfortunately
[07:10] <maestrojed> I just consolidated  my music to ubuntu. I insist on keeping my music lossless. Half my music is FLAC, the other half Applelossless m4a. Can you suggest a program to batch conver these all to a standard lossless format? On linux/ubuntu what is the lossless format of choice, FLAC?
[07:11] <Lasers> Derpella: USB sticks?
[07:11] <r3b00t> see anything in there?
[07:11] <urlin2u> shomon, in the past I have saved the key to a gedit, put it in home, then go to synaptic settings-repositories-authentication-import key file
[07:11] <Derpella> lasers: too old pc, won't boot from usb
[07:11] <shomon> ah, thanks!
[07:11] <tensorpudding> r3b00t: the b43 driver should work
[07:12] <r3b00t> how do I install that
[07:12] <tensorpudding> r3b00t: are you sure it's not that your wifi is disabled?
[07:12] <thrasher456> @darpella if u cant install by USB and also cant burn DVD then best would be to get oracle vm machine and install ubuntu
[07:13] <r3b00t> no because it shows a list of networks to connect to. I put my WPA password in and it keeps popping up for me to enter it
[07:13] <r3b00t> i removed the security on my network and it still wouldnt connect
[07:13] <tensorpudding> r3b00t: uh
[07:13] <tensorpudding> r3b00t: if a list of networks show up, then the driver is loaded
[07:13] <ikonia> r3b00t: are you using network manage to connect to the wireless network ?
[07:13] <JuNeX> be right back later will restart PC..
[07:14] <ikonia> network manager even
[07:14] <lewis93> Any suggestions on my driver problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1826243
[07:14] <tensorpudding> r3b00t: but just to be sure, open the terminal, and look at the output of 'lsmod' to see what modules are loaded
[07:14] <osmosis_paul> Good morning, somebody know how can i add an shortcut into the left shortcut bar of ubuntu 11.04???? the shortcut is for a program that i download from internet and is not a debian package so the application search engine does not find it
[07:14] <r3b00t> I use whatever it is thats in the upper right corner, looks like a slice of pizza
[07:14] <ikonia> lewis93: you're already getting help on the forum for this
[07:15] <r3b00t> i dont see mod probe running
[07:15] <lewis93> ikonia, I know and it has reached a halt.
[07:15] <ikonia> r3b00t: ok - can you open a terminal please and pastebin the output of the command "sudo iwconfig"
[07:15] <thrasher456> @osmosis right click on desktop then select link to application then throw it into the left shortcut bar
[07:15] <ikonia> lewis93: the guy helping you is probablyh asleep
[07:15] <urlin2u> osmosis_paul, make a launcher for hit with right click and drag it to the panel
[07:16] <urlin2u> it*
[07:16] <thrasher456> osmo left
[07:16] <r3b00t> http://pastebin.com/q7FW9tzb
[07:16] <r3b00t> (yes blacknyellow is my router lol)
[07:16] <ikonia> r3b00t: ok - good news, it's connected to the blacknyellow network
[07:17] <tensorpudding> i don't know about that
[07:17] <r3b00t> but when I pull out the network cable it drops
[07:17] <tensorpudding> if it had a link it'd have a bit more information wouldn't it
[07:17] <ikonia> r3b00t: the bad news is the router is not taking it onboard, which is why you don't have an assocaited accesspoint, or ip address
[07:18] <k4r1m> how do I add a file to a certain directory inside a zip file using zip?
[07:18] <shomon> urlin2u, I think the port is closed to go to the keyserver :(
[07:18] <thrasher456> anybody here knows 4 player podcast ?
[07:18] <glisstech> thrasher456: Miro
[07:19] <thrasher456> miro knows it
[07:19] <urlin2u> shomon, what happens when you just run a update && upgrade after adding the ppa?
[07:19] <thrasher456> ok
[07:19] <r3b00t> so its my router causing this?
[07:19] <shomon> I can't add the ppa, because the port for the key server is blocked by my company firewall
[07:19] <ikonia> r3b00t: well, I wouldn't say causing it, however, certainly not working with it
[07:19] <r3b00t> then why cant I connect to my apartment's free wifi? its an unsecured network
[07:19] <betanick> r3b00t: mac filter?
[07:20] <r3b00t> lemme check
[07:20] <jose> Hi, was installing samba from source file, i can't find /etc/init.d/smb. its rare?
[07:20] <urlin2u> shomon, ah I see, your personal computer?
[07:20] <ikonia> jose: no, it won't install it
[07:20] <r3b00t> i dont have MAC filtering enabled
[07:20] <ikonia> r3b00t: just step back for a minute
[07:20] <jose> how i can do that ikonia ?
[07:21] <ikonia> jose: do what ?
[07:21] <ikonia> r3b00t: so blacnknyellow is the network you want to connect to, yes/no
[07:21] <jose> can i install smbd service in etc.init.d?
[07:21] <ikonia> jose: yes
[07:21] <ikonia> jose: it's just a script
[07:21] <shomon> urlin2u, can I do something like gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-keys  MYKEY
[07:22] <r3b00t> yes
[07:22] <urlin2u> shomon, I wouldn't know.
[07:22] <r3b00t> but also to any other network I need.. because I use this netbook for wardriving
[07:22] <ikonia> r3b00t: it's currently running without any encyption yes/no
[07:22] <shomon> ok no problem, thanks urlin2u
[07:22] <urlin2u> shomon, np.
[07:22] <r3b00t> no its WPA right now
[07:23] <ikonia> r3b00t: right - so the output of iwconfig shows it's not using any encyption,
[07:23] <jose> i look for information, any suggestions?
[07:23] <ikonia> r3b00t: Encryption key:off
[07:23] <ikonia> jose: you need to create your own script
[07:23] <ikonia> jose: if you're building samba from source code you should know what you're doing - this is basic stuff
[07:23] <r3b00t> k
[07:24] <ikonia> r3b00t: so that's possibly why it's not currently associated
[07:24] <osmosis_paul> Another thing, it is possible made that the shortcut bar of ubuntu 11.04 show more quick?
[07:24] <r3b00t> I just selected WPA and typed my password in
[07:24] <r3b00t> and its not connecting
[07:25] <betanick> r3b00t: google modprobe broadcom :)
[07:25] <ikonia> r3b00t: is this an inbuilt wireless card, or some usb dongle (please don't say dongle)
[07:25] <r3b00t> on board
[07:25] <betanick> r3b00t: but you won't beable to put the card into monitor mode
[07:26] <r3b00t> i can put it into monitor mode
[07:26] <zi> Does ubuntu have a equalizer built in by default?
[07:26] <r3b00t> betanick: i did google it and didnt find much
[07:26] <ikonia> r3b00t: what make/model of card is it ?
[07:26] <ikonia> betanick: do you know he's using a broadcom card ?
[07:26] <r3b00t> just people complaining it wasnt working
[07:26] <betanick> r3b00t: if you use modprobe that is
[07:26] <betanick> ikonia: yes
[07:26] <r3b00t> yeah screw that I need monitor mode
[07:26] <ikonia> betanick: which one
[07:26] <r3b00t> the shitty thing is I JUST HAD IT WORKING a few days ago
[07:27] <ikonia> r3b00t: tone down the language
[07:27] <jose> i saw few ways to do, i was just asking..
[07:27] <r3b00t> sorry
[07:27] <betanick> ikonia: i don't know which one
[07:27] <r3b00t> I re-installed ubuntu.. still no workie
[07:27] <ikonia> jose: ok, well, get on with it
[07:27] <ikonia> r3b00t: I guess the obvious question is first, is anything else connected to this router ?
[07:27] <betanick> ikonia: does airmon-ng work?
[07:28] <betanick> r3b00t: does airmon-ng work?
[07:28] <ikonia> betanick: I thought that was for cisco chipsets to be honest, I don't know
[07:28] <r3b00t> yeah usually my phone, tablet and macbook.. but right now just my imac hard wired into it
[07:28] <r3b00t> I have XP dualboot on this laptop lemme boot into xp and see if it works
[07:28] <ikonia> r3b00t: ok - can you verify the router is available first, lets not chase our tail
[07:28] <betanick> ikonia: modprobe?
[07:28] <ikonia> betanick: what about modprobe ?
[07:29] <betanick> ikonia: what's for cisco chipsets?
[07:29] <ikonia> betanick: I thought airmon-ng was for mostly cisco based chipsets
[07:29] <betanick> ikonia: nope
[07:29] <r3b00t> if I dont have the network cable plugged in I cant ping the router
[07:29] <ikonia> r3b00t: of course you can't, you're not on the network
[07:30] <betanick> r3b00t: do you have a model for us?
[07:30] <r3b00t> betanick: yes airmon works
[07:30] <r3b00t> it lets me put it in mon mode
[07:30] <r3b00t> yeah one sec
[07:30] <clarezoe> hi, my gtalk in empathy shows network error today? Anyone knows what was wrong? It has been working for a long time
[07:30] <r3b00t> BCM4312
[07:30] <betanick> r3b00t: and you can see a list of aps?
[07:31] <r3b00t> of aps?
[07:32] <betanick> r3b00t: access points?
[07:33] <r3b00t> oh yeah it lists every one around me
[07:33] <betanick> r3b00t: just doesn't connect
[07:33] <r3b00t> right
[07:34] <betanick> r3b00t: what version of b43?
[07:35] <doritey> u-bun-tu!
[07:35] <r3b00t> says rev 0.1
[07:35] <betanick> r3b00t: 2.6.33+
[07:35] <DebiansArmy> doritey: un boon tooo
[07:35] <ikonia> doritey: do you have a support question ?
[07:36] <gaurav_natty> how to make a file executable file
[07:36] <Dulak> gaurav_natty: for everyone or just you?
[07:36] <r3b00t> ?
[07:36] <r3b00t> just the rev is all it listed
[07:36] <doritey> ikonia: No I'm just here to cause a ruckus.
[07:37] <it-wijaya> how to print half letter
[07:37] <it-wijaya> ?..
[07:37] <it-wijaya> from ubuntu
[07:37] <ikonia> doritey: please don't bother, the topic of this channel is ubuntu support, please keep to that topic only.
[07:37] <r3b00t> Im going to take a break from this and come back tomorrow
[07:37] <r3b00t> thanks everybody for trying to help
[07:37] <Kanzar> hi all, newbie trying to set up a VPN on a host1plus vps. I'm using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openvpn.html but am stuck at where I need to edit the server.conf. I don't understand what I should be changing the IPs to, as I don't -know- what the IPs should be, or if they are just there for the VPN to assign... or something. And I can't find some of the options to
[07:37] <Kanzar> edit either.
[07:38] <doritey> Don't be ridiculous. All I did was a funny greeting. Your complaining that I happened to spout ONE LINE that wasn't ubuntu support-related is detracting more from the point of this channel than anything I ever did.
[07:38] <betanick> r3b00t: ya sry you didn't get it
[07:38] <doritey> I'm here to ask questions and provide support, so there's no need to complain.
[07:38] <ikonia> doritey: you've done one pointless line, I'm asking you not to conntinue it
[07:38] <r3b00t> now if it works in XP (my dual boot) then its an ubuntu issue right?
[07:38] <betanick> r3b00t: have you tried madwifi?
[07:38] <doritey> And I'm asking you not to nitpick at stuff that probably won't continue in the first place. :-)
[07:38] <ikonia> doritey: you've done it in other channels, so how about just say "ok"
[07:39] <r3b00t> is that like modprobe?
[07:39] <r3b00t> lol
[07:39] <betanick> r3b00t: nope
[07:39] <betanick> r3b00t: like b43
[07:39] <doritey> Other channels have nothing to do with #ubuntu. Give it a rest man. I understand your sentiment and all but it's annoying that a guy can't even say hi without getting IRC REPRIMANDED.
[07:39] <DebiansArmy> doritey: watch out I got ripped by this one early in the day... This one is trying to set a record how many people they can help in an hour.... lol
[07:40] <betanick> r3b00t: you install b43?
[07:40] <r3b00t> okay so on XP it wont even list any networks around me
[07:41] <gaurav_natty> i am an eclipse file in my drive i want 2 make it exectuble how i make them
[07:41] <ikonia> doritey: that is not a greeting, just to make it clear, please don't do it in this channel,
[07:41] <doritey> Just to be clear, leave me alone and don't ever complain about something ever again unless it's clear that it's meant to detract from the purpose of this channel instead of lashing out at one-liners that may or may not continue.
[07:41] <doritey> You're ridiculous.
[07:41] <doritey> Go away.
[07:42] <betanick> r3b00t: what about a shutdown wait 10 secs and power up?
[07:42] <r3b00t> tried that
[07:42] <r3b00t> i jsut dont see how one day it works.. the next it doesnt, even between 2 different operating systems
[07:42] <betanick> r3b00t: may aireplay burnt it out lol
[07:43] <betanick> r3b00t: is the switch on?
[07:43] <r3b00t> yes the switch is on
[07:43] <dohomi> hello
[07:43] <betanick> r3b00t: have you tried turing the switch on and off
[07:44] <r3b00t> yes
[07:44] <dohomi> does somebody know, how to delete thousands of filename in one time? I have all filenames row by row and want to delete them...can I do this with a bash script?
[07:45] <somsip> r3b00t: what was the result of turning off WPA on the router? I missed what you said...
[07:45] <r3b00t> never connected
[07:45] <somsip> r3b00t: same sort of thing - just hanging?
[07:45] <r3b00t> yup
[07:46] <somsip> r3b00t: anything interesting showing for error messages? Does dmesg shw any dhcp info?
[07:46] <lewis93> I just got an email from Realtek about struggling to use my driver. They sent me this email: http://paste.ubuntu.com/668988/ I followed the instructions up 'til where it says "sudo su" then "make". "make" and "make install" do not do anything. What now?
[07:46] <r3b00t> ill mess with it more tomorrow.. I gotta hit the sack
[07:47] <stefan_> Hello, is there a tool to show me the names of the computers of the w-lan-network i am connected to? It is an open network and i want to contact the owner concerning the risks of this.
[07:47] <gaurav_natty> drwxr-xr-x 16 gaurav gaurav    12288 2011-08-18 13:16 Desktop What these lines means in terminal when i do ls -
[07:47] <stefan_> (U 10.10 64bit)
[07:48] <czar> hi stefan
[07:48] <betanick> stefan_: nmap :)
[07:49] <cjs> In Ubuntu 11.04, when I bring up the "configure toolbar" dialog box, I can't flip the sections open and closed, nor do the OK or Cance buttons work. Any thoughts? It worked fine under Ubuntu 10.04.
[07:49] <betanick> stefan_: run ettercap to get thir pop3 email info and send them a note :)
[07:50] <cjs> I could change some checkboxes a moment ago, but the whole thing seems to have wedged now.
[07:51] <stefan_> thanks. I have run nmap and now i must look, what the output is. I will try ettercap afterwards.
[07:51] <cjs> Oh, so I can close the dialog box window and go back to normal (minus the toolbar changes I'm looking for)....
[07:52] <rickardo11> Is there any way I can connect to my server with AFP?
[07:52] <betanick> stefan_: make sure you include their password in the email
[07:52] <cjs> stefan_: Do you really want to send someone a note stating you've just performed what is probably a criminal act against them?
[07:52] <stefan_> It is weird. On Win Vista (at least) the network is open, but one cannot connect. Ubuntu simply connects :D
[07:52] <dohomi> Is there some () or {} for wrapping for a deleting bash script, I have over 1500 rows and want to delete each file, dont want to copy "rm " in front of each row.
[07:52] <stefan_> cjs, in Germany this is not illegal
[07:54] <betanick> stefan_: maybe it's a problem with the ssid
[07:54] <stefan_> cjs, in Germany one has to pay only for traffic, that costs the victim money, but this irrelevant, as everyone has a flatrate and the sums would be cents
[07:54] <betanick> stefan_: i know xp had issues with some ssids
[07:55] <stefan_> (but it is forbidden to have an open w-lan in Germany one one is responsible for criminal things done by the ip)
[07:55] <betanick> stefan_: can you access their router?
[07:56] <stefan_> no, their router is password protected
[07:56] <betanick> stefan_: linksys?
[07:56] <cjs> stefan_: Interesting.
[07:57] <stefan_> it is a d-link dir-300 router
[07:57] <fdsnfx> sa
[07:57] <fdsnfx> yarram
[07:58] <betanick> stefan_: tyr username: admin and password: none or admin
[07:58] <betanick> stefan_: try*
[07:59] <betanick> stefan_: you can then configure it for them
[08:00] <betanick> stefan_: make sure you use wpa or wpa2
[08:01] <stefan_> betanick, their router seems to be protected
[08:01] <betanick> stefan_: could be a honeypot?
[08:01] <stefan_> betanick, the Dir-300 has no password at all by default. I do not know the expression honeypot
[08:02] <stefan_> Something to lure me?
[08:02] <betanick> stefan_: they welcome users to connect to it
[08:02] <betanick> stefan_: they use them to gather information
[08:03] <betanick> stefan_: any other hosts beside the router when you ran nmap?
[08:03] <stefan_> betanick, this ssid exists in this house of good friendly neighbours for months. Two weeks ago, a lightning bolt destroyed some devices. I think, this ssid was protected before.
[08:04] <kapipi> It seems that ubuntu uses two fonts when rendering a text of mixed japanese and english. How can I see what fonts are in use for rendering the japanese characters?
[08:04] <betanick> stefan_: aoh so you know who it belongs to
[08:04] <optimusP> can anybody suggest me DNS
[08:05] <betanick> optimusP: opendns?
[08:05] <fragolina> ciaso a tutti
[08:05] <stefan_> no, the lightning bolt hit the hole big house. Our router and phone was destroyed too.
[08:05] <betanick> stefan_: oh
[08:06] <optimusP> betanick, can you please tell me ip, i am not able to browse
[08:06] <Myrtti> optimusP: 8.8.8.8
[08:07] <betanick> optimusP: that's google
[08:07] <cjs> kapipi: I do believe that it's the application, not Ubuntu, doing the rendering.
[08:07] <betanick> optimusP: same with 8.8.4.4
[08:08] <betanick> optimusP: opendns = 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220
[08:08] <stefan_> betanick, nmap shows me things, which I do not know much about but the host seems to use microsoft whatever: Ex: scanme.nmap.org, microsoft.com/24, 192.168.0.1; 10.0.0-255.1-254
[08:09] <stefan_> Or this is due to my other PC with Vista trying to connect (without success :D)
[08:09] <betanick> stefan_: how are you running nmap?
[08:10] <stefan_> betanick, nmap ENTER
[08:10] <betanick> stefan_: try nmap -sP 192.168.0.*
[08:11] <betanick> stefan_: nmap ENTER should only display the help
[08:12] <stefan_> betanick, http://pastebin.com/zPkjUVCk
[08:12] <optimusP>  betanick lookup seems to be slow
[08:13] <betanick> stefan_: 192.168.0.100 is you and 192.168.0.1 is the router
[08:13] <betanick> stefan_: no other hosts
[08:13] <stefan_> ok
[08:14] <betanick> optimusP: are you using google or opendns?
[08:15] <betanick> stefan_: now run "nmap 192.168.0.1 --open" or "nmap 192.168.0.100 --open"
[08:19] <stefan_> betanick, http://pastebin.com/UAZ8xuQP
[08:22] <betanick> stefan_: goto www.whatismyip.com
[08:22] <betanick> stefan_: that will tell you your ip address
[08:23] <betanick> stefan_: iplookup.com i believe will tell you your provider
[08:23] <don-i> trying to setup vsftp. I can access it locally, but not externally
[08:23] <don-i> where should I be looking to solve the problem ?
[08:23] <betanick> don-i: firewall?
[08:24] <don-i> none...
[08:24] <betanick> don-i: port forwording?
[08:24] <don-i> i set it up...
[08:24] <betanick> don-i: port forwarding*
[08:24] <don-i> hm..
[08:24] <don-i> let me try from another machine
[08:25] <rhughes> Playing the game Machinarium from Humble indie bundle but save seems to loose games. ideas?
[08:25] <don-i> i just wanted to make sure that it does work locally, ive been testing with localhost only..
[08:25] <don-i> i did a scan of my network and port 21 is exposed
[08:25] <betanick> don-i: try using your network ip
[08:26] <LjL-Webchat> my computer misbehaves (spontaneously reboots), and that has resulted in serious corruption of my btrfs filesystem. fsck segfaults on it. what could i do?
[08:26] <stefan_> betanick, thanks, I think I know, who has a contract with this provider.
[08:26] <don-i> betanick, as in my internal ip ?
[08:26] <don-i> in that case, i can connect
[08:26] <stefan_> It is the owner of the house
[08:26] <betanick> don-i: like a 192 not 127
[08:26] <don-i> ya
[08:26] <makara> hi. Wifi not authenticating on 11.04 32bit. I see a lot of talk about WAP not working out the box. Where are we up to with this?
[08:26] <don-i> betanick,  i tried from another machine
[08:26] <don-i> and i was able to connect
[08:27] <betanick> don-i: can you access it form another computer?
[08:27] <betanick> from*
[08:27] <don-i> betanick, yup :)
[08:27] <don-i> i just rechecked as i was talking to you
[08:27] <betanick> don-i: sorry what's the problem then?
[08:27] <don-i> i want to access it from outside my network
[08:28] <don-i> not using internal ip
[08:28] <betanick> don-i: and you have port fowarding setup?
[08:28] <Polysics> 11.04 WTF
[08:28] <betanick> don-i: want me to nmap you?
[08:28] <Polysics> it is simply horrible
[08:29] <tensorpudding> !ot | Polysics
[08:29] <don-i> sure
[08:29] <betanick> don-i: oh you know what it could be too
[08:29] <makara> LjL-Webchat - sounds like hardware, not ubuntu
[08:29] <betanick> don-i: some ISPs don't allow certain ports.. you have to buy the server package
[08:30] <Polysics> is there a way to get back the old gnome notification chain?
[08:30] <LjL> makara: the spontaneous reboots are hardware, but i'm not trying to address those, i'm merely trying to fix the filesystem now
[08:30] <betanick> don-i: port 21? try another port
[08:30] <don-i> no that cant be...because i have a nas server, that supports ftp, and it works.
[08:30] <don-i> ive disabled it
[08:30] <don-i> but it works
[08:30] <betanick> don-i: oh ok
[08:30] <don-i> and why would isps block ftp ?! :S
[08:30] <tripelb> hello. I relly need help. My froyo android phone when connected, charges but does not connect. someone told me to do dmesg (3 days ago) and I'd like someone to tell me what the error code is and maybe help me. Thanks.
[08:31] <betanick> don-i: so they can make more $$
[08:31] <don-i> bastards
[08:31] <don-i> lol
[08:31] <betanick> don-i: so port 21?
[08:31] <betanick> stefan_: np good luck
[08:31] <tensorpudding> Polysics: which notifications are you talking about?
[08:31] <don-i> im wondering if...
[08:31] <Polysics> tensorpudding, i basically do not have a systray
[08:32] <don-i> are you familar with wds ?
[08:32] <makara> LjL - beyond me I'm afraid. Ubuntu checks filesystem occasionally when it loads. What happens when you turn on?
[08:32] <don-i> im not..i just learned about it today..lol...
[08:32] <Polysics> no skype or empathy icons, no guake button, nothing
[08:32] <Polysics> just a network, volume and mail (which i do not even use) icon
[08:32] <LjL-Webchat> makara: says something like "serious errors have been found, ignore, don't mount or fix manually?"
[08:32] <betanick> don-i: wds for wifi?
[08:32] <tensorpudding> Polysics: the old notification area is still there, it's just configured to hide most of the icons because the indicator area makes them superfluous
[08:33] <tensorpudding> Polysics: it can be configured
[08:33] <don-i> betanick, ya, i needed wifi in an area of my house, and i couldnt run a cable, so i bought 2 routers today and loaded dd-wrt and used them to create a wds..a bridge
[08:33] <Polysics> tensorpudding, i would leave it to the users to decide what is superflous imho
[08:33] <makara> boot from cd and run the gui diskutility, choose 'check filesystem' for your drive. maybe it will have more options
[08:33] <makara> LjL
[08:34] <tensorpudding> Polysics: that's never been the way that such things are done
[08:34] <don-i> betanick, it took some time to get it setup, but my desktops are hardwired into a router, that communicates wirelessly with another router connected to a modem. its an ugly setup but it works
[08:34] <Polysics> this would surely be a cause of problems with a new user. they put in a lot of work on unity, then someone starts skype and the icon isn't there
[08:34] <LjL-Webchat> makara: ok i will try
[08:34] <Polysics> i just found out how t oshow them, btw
[08:34] <tensorpudding> Polysics: install dconf-editor, and follow this guide: http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/ubuntu-11-04-fix-show-all-iconsindicators-in-unity-panels-notification-area/
[08:34] <Polysics> i found the same URL :-D
[08:35] <don-i> betanick, the router im connected too right now, is the station, and dhcp is set to repeat. When i port forward, i port forwarded from the router that acts as a wds ap
[08:35] <don-i> betanick, im wondering if i need to port forward both routers, or if i port forwarded the wrong one ?
[08:36] <tensorpudding> i thought skype was one of the ones in the whitelist; skype not having an icon there would be a bug
[08:36] <betanick> don-i: you need to forward the port on all
[08:36] <don-i> betanick, lets go give that  a try
[08:37] <raven> Xorg causes very high cpu load - how to find out why?
[08:38] <th0r> raven: what does top show?
[08:38] <raven> th0r, 99%
[08:39] <th0r> raven: top shows X running that high or is that the total? Are you using a proprietary video driver?
[08:39] <don-i> betanick, ive set both to fwd 21, but same thing
[08:39] <don-i> betanick, just for laughs, i also removed them, and tried again, and it refused the connection immediately
[08:39] <selite> Hello everyone
[08:39] <raven> th0r, X is running 99% load until i "reset" it with kill and relogin
[08:40] <selite> Can you please tell me where can I find open source projects to work on?
[08:40] <th0r> raven: when you kill X and log back in, does it settle down?
[08:40] <raven> th0r, yes then it is "normal"
[08:41] <th0r> raven: are you running unity? If so, have you tried switchng to gnome to see if that solves the problem?
[08:42] <raven> th0r, i am running 10.04 lts. perhaps this problem is since i installed xbmc and mythtv. its near that time
[08:43] <anli_> I am trying to open a csv file with 13703 records in libre office. It tells that the maximum number of rows has been exceeded...
[08:43] <anli_> Is 13703 even close to the maximum number or rows? :)
[08:43] <betanick> don-i: can i nmap you?
[08:44] <th0r> raven: I would try disabling or uninstalling them. If X works after logging back in, then something is hanging on bootup so it is probably a 'service'
[08:44] <don-i> betanick, ya go for it
[08:44] <betanick> don-i: nmap sees it
[08:45] <betanick> don-i: want me to try to connect?
[08:45] <selite> Gentleman, I would like to contribute can you please show the right direction.
[08:45] <don-i> betanick, sure
[08:45] <don-i> just see if it prompts a user name...i wasnt even getting that far :(
[08:45] <betanick> don-i: looks good to me
[08:45] <don-i> ...
[08:45] <don-i> it works ?
[08:45] <don-i> :/
[08:45] <raven> th0r, any way to find out the sevices "behind" Xorg?
[08:46] <rickardo11> :o, I just discoverd someone has planted udp.pl in a users homefolder on my ubuntu server… We have strong passwords and update server frequently…  how can it possible be done?
[08:46] <kill> Trololol.
[08:46] <Tommy> anyone here use steam in ubuntu?
[08:47] <tripelb> I've been asking the same question for 3 or four days. (I'm not happy about not getting anyone to help me. :( ) but I changed up where it was plugged in and I made progress. I took it out of the hub and directly into the computer and the error message changed. It added one about the USB hub being overloaded and to plug it into a high speed hub. I had identified in the past that the front USB port was the 2.0 and all the rest were 1.1 s
[08:47] <tripelb> o I put it in the front. --> now it works. SOLVED.
[08:48] <Tommy> kill: i hope you're not talkin about me >.<
[08:48] <th0r> raven: it would have to be something tied closely to video. You mention mythtv...I never tried it, but it would be a good suspect
[08:48] <raven> th0r, ok
[08:49] <ColKurtz_> hey
[08:49] <ColKurtz_> so
[08:49] <ColKurtz_> clicking the "workspace switcher" in the launch bar gives an overview of your desktops
[08:50] <ColKurtz_> how do I find out to do that with a command
[08:50] <ColKurtz_> so i can map a custom keyboard shortcut to it
[08:52] <xcopy> my ubuntu 11 updates didnt go so well - system boots into grub now :(
[08:52] <Pure> Hello, I have a question.
[08:52] <ashickur-noor> @Pure What?
[08:52] <Pure> If I run Ubuntu off a Live CD, can I install programs and such on an external drive?
[08:53] <ashickur-noor> @Pure
[08:53] <ashickur-noor> No
[08:53]  * don-i declares betanick vsftp master...kinda
[08:53] <Pure> So, I'm stuck with the defualts?
[08:54] <ashickur-noor> @Pure
[08:54] <ashickur-noor> If you boot it from any optical media you can not
[08:54] <ashickur-noor> But If you use USB KEY such as pendrive then it is possible
[08:54] <ColKurtz_> ^
[08:54] <ColKurtz_> i was gonna say
[08:54] <ikonia> Pure: it's not really a good usable solution though
[08:54] <Pure> But I can't run things from an external hard drive?
[08:54] <ColKurtz_> put into a pendrive with plenty of extra space and apt-get something
[08:54] <ColKurtz_> why?
[08:54] <ashickur-noor> @Pure Ya u Will
[08:54] <ashickur-noor> But you can save the those downloaded packages
[08:55] <ColKurtz_> do you need it to be portable?
[08:55] <ashickur-noor> @Pure u can run ubuntu from any media if it is bootable
[08:55] <ashickur-noor> and store if it is writtable
[08:55] <ColKurtz_> or are you testing it out?
[08:56] <ashickur-noor> if you need then you can customize it then use it as much as you want
[08:56] <Pure> It's so I can run it on a computer that's got too restricted settings.
[08:56] <Pure> How do I do that?
[08:56] <Pure> Can I just open the iso and write to it?
[08:57] <orchata> hi guys, I started using ubuntu pretty much a year ago now and since then been experimenting by installing differnt apps. Right now my ubuntu got really slow, especially with browsers. Is there any way to make it faster without reistalling?
[08:57] <tripelb> my computer is running hot. dmesg told me. is there any way I can get that told to me on my desktop?
[08:57] <ashickur-noor> @Pure
[08:57] <ashickur-noor> No
[08:57] <ashickur-noor> then you have to install is first in your hard drive
[08:57] <ashickur-noor> then install what you want
[08:57] <ashickur-noor> then use remastersys to backup
[08:57] <FloodBot1> ashickur-noor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:57] <ashickur-noor> it is a way to customize
[08:57] <Pure> I was joking, heh.
[08:58] <ashickur-noor> @Pure what are you talking about?
[08:58] <tripelb> orchata what's your brower? is it slow when only running the browser or only when several programs are unning at the same time?
[08:59] <Pure> Nothing.
[08:59] <Pure> But in short, my main computer does not have an internet connection.
[09:01] <Pure> Is it possible to download the packages manually and install the offline?
[09:01] <ashickur-noor> @Pure Then ask some one who use Ubuntu
[09:01] <ashickur-noor> @Pure Ya possible
[09:02] <orchata> tripelb: I am using chrome 13. Browser is pretty much always open, since I need to google something once in a while. The problem is that the startup time is also slow, over one minute.
[09:02] <ashickur-noor> @Pure Use keryx
[09:02] <IdleOne> !offline | pure
[09:02] <Pure> Oh, does Synaptic come with databases and such?
[09:02] <ashickur-noor> @ubottu aptoncd is no good for the as keryx
[09:03] <ashickur-noor> @Pure ya, but you need to update it after install Ubuntu'
[09:03] <ashickur-noor> so you need internet connection
[09:03] <Pure> ah, I see.
[09:04] <ashickur-noor> @Pure using keryx is best way for offline install
[09:04] <Pure> So, I can install Ubuntu on a VM and do the downloads I need and then make a live cd?
[09:04] <makara> hi. i sent my pc for repairs. They changed the desktop to 640 x 480 and now when I change back to 1920 x 1080 my settings are lost on reboot ??
[09:04] <ashickur-noor> @Pure ya
[09:04] <ashickur-noor> its easy though
[09:04] <Pure> Please, please say Ubuntu comes with sshd?
[09:05] <ashickur-noor> to make a iso you need to use remastersys
[09:05] <server1> when i try to call up the script infophp.php from my webserver ubuntu 11  apache2 it gave me the source code of the file  ... why it cant read php files?
[09:05] <aleph-2> is it possible to configure the mouse settings higher or lower than what the sliders allows for in the mouse section of the control center?
[09:06] <Pure> Does keryx require install on the internet pc?
[09:06] <ashickur-noor> @Pure Ubuntu has
[09:06] <ashickur-noor> @Pure No it is completly portable
[09:07] <makara> i save to /etc/X11/xorg.conf but still it loses settings. why?
[09:11] <selite> Hello I would like to contribute to open source. However, I do not have any original idea.
[09:11] <selite> Can anyone help me out?
[09:11] <ikonia> selite: this isn't really the place for that sort of discussion
[09:11] <ikonia> selite: this channel supports the Ubuntu Linux distribution.
[09:12] <selite> ikonia: Which place is good for that kind of discussion?
[09:12] <Pure> Alright, just crashed out.
[09:12] <Pure> Do I need to install keryx?
[09:12] <Fartificial> I have a problem.
[09:12] <ikonia> selite: if you look on freenode.net it will show you how to search for channels
[09:12] <Fartificial> $5 to whoever helps me fix!
[09:12] <ashickur-noor> @Pure No
[09:12] <ikonia> Fartificial: how about just ask the question and someone will help if they can
[09:12] <selite> ikonia: Thank you
[09:12] <mssever> Fartificial: Just describe your problem
[09:12] <ashickur-noor> keryx is tottaly portable
[09:13] <FauxFaux> http://faux.uwcs.co.uk/unity-systemtray-spotify.png Unity natty x64 is failing hard at system trays; banshee and davmail are supposed to be in the tray, but only Spotify (in wine) shows up, and in a stupid place?  systray-whitelist seems to be the only problem I can find, and I've set it to all, but it does nothing.  Another dual-head bug?
[09:13] <Pure> Do I have to run any programs on my internet sided pc?
[09:13] <Fartificial> Mysql isnt working - I get a mysql error - Cant connect to local MySQL server through socket var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[09:13] <Fartificial> Annoying me
[09:13] <Fartificial> Ive removed the mysql-server and mysql-client package and restart
[09:13] <Fartificial> But when I type mysql I still get the error, even though I removed the package.
[09:13] <somsip> Fartificial: did you reset root password when you reinstalled?
[09:14] <ikonia> Fartificial: the mysql problem, have you looked if mysql server is running ?
[09:14] <Fartificial> service mysql status still gives a process id (even though it changes, so I cant exactly kill it). Process is called post-start process xxxx
[09:14] <makara> ubuntu problem?
[09:14] <Fartificial> Did I reset root password? No.
[09:14] <ikonia> Fartificial: 1.) mysql server needs to be running 2.) there needs to be a socket file in place and have the correct permssions 3.) the mysql password (not system password) needs to be set so you can connec tto it
[09:15] <Fartificial> Whenever I install mysql server I get the same error
[09:15] <Fartificial> I want to get rid of all traces of mysql and start again
[09:15] <tripelb> orchata, that's time to login or time after login to desktop completely up or the sum of the two?  (I think mine is too.) glad you posted.
[09:15] <Fartificial> I dont know why its erroring, I installed LAMP yesterday on ubuntu fine.
[09:15] <ikonia> Fartificial: try to start mysql server, what happens
[09:15]  * Nephro ubuntu's gnome broke down, now it's ugly as hell, but it works SUPER FAST
[09:15] <Nephro> ;[
[09:15] <Fartificial> Its the same error.
[09:15] <Fartificial> But fine
[09:15] <Fartificial> Ill install it and run it
[09:15] <ikonia> Fartificial: no, that's a client error
[09:15] <orchata> tripelb: It is total time
[09:15] <ikonia> Fartificial: what happens when you try to start the server
[09:16] <mssever> Fartificial: go to Synaptic, search for mysql, and hit totally remove for everything. THen you can reinstall if that's what you want
[09:16] <tripelb> OK I'm going to time mine next time. thanks for answering me and good luck in getting help.
[09:16] <Fartificial> Installing now
[09:17] <Fartificial> Just installed mysql-server save error.
[09:17] <Fartificial> sudo service mysql start
[09:17] <Fartificial> mysql
[09:17] <Fartificial> Error
[09:17] <ikonia> Fartificial: ok - so that's why you can't connect, as the service is not running
[09:18] <Fartificial> So how do I run the service?
[09:18] <ikonia> Fartificial: you need to look at the error log (the syslog is a good start) to see why mysql is not starting
[09:19] <silkenphoenixx> Hey all
[09:20] <zicronsand> hi there
[09:20] <stephenh> hello, i'm experiencing a problem when trying to rotate syslog-ng
[09:20] <stephenh> http://pastie.org/458610/wrap
[09:20] <stephenh> i've seen a few people paste this, but don't see any fixes.. :\
[09:21] <ikonia> stephenh: have you looked if there is a bug filed ?
[09:21] <zicronsand> what is this syslog-ng??
[09:21] <zicronsand> some kind of log file is it
[09:22] <ikonia> zicronsand: it is the syslog for the system
[09:22] <ikonia> (system log)
[09:22] <zicronsand> oo
[09:22] <zicronsand> right
[09:22] <zicronsand> then what is the error
[09:22] <ikonia> zicronsand: what error ?
[09:22] <zicronsand> i mean the paster tells that
[09:22] <zicronsand> wait
[09:22] <ikonia> zicronsand: it's a process that rotates the log, the error is saying it can't rotate the log
[09:22] <zicronsand> http://pastie.org/458610/wrap
[09:23] <zicronsand> ok
[09:23] <zicronsand> would you be more specific
[09:23] <ikonia> in what way ?
[09:23] <rethus> hi there. does someone here runs hd5450 with dual monitor
[09:23] <zicronsand> you told it can't rotate the log
[09:23] <ikonia> that is exactly what's happening the logrotate application that is run by cron is failing to rotate the syslog
[09:24] <rethus> is it well suported on ubuntu ?
[09:24] <zicronsand> ok so the application is called logrotator
[09:24] <zicronsand> let me search for it
[09:24] <ikonia> zicronsand: the application is called logrotate
[09:24] <zicronsand> it  is new to me
[09:24] <zicronsand> ok
[09:24] <zicronsand> wait i can solve the rotation prob anyway
[09:25] <rethus> hi there. does someone here runs hd5450 with dual monitor?
[09:25] <zicronsand> if there is some programming things concerned with it
[09:25] <stephenh> ikonia: the closest i found was this:
[09:25] <stephenh> http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2010-11/msg29259.html
[09:25] <rethus> how good is ati dual monitor suported in linux?
[09:26] <stephenh> i'm currently installing syslong onto a test box to test this out ..
[09:26] <ikonia> stephenh: it's worth looking at bug  678402 on launchpad.net
[09:26] <rethus> for my old nvidia-card i have a nvida-settings tool
[09:26] <rethus> are something simlar for ati?
[09:26] <ikonia> stephenh: see what it's current status is
[09:26] <zicronsand> ikonia is there a bug
[09:26] <SMJ> I'm upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04. python2.7-minimal fails configuration. now what?
[09:26] <zicronsand> i guess so
[09:26] <ikonia> zicronsand: yes, I've just given the id
[09:27] <zicronsand> so do you like to fix it
[09:27] <stephenh> ikonia: great, thanks.  will do
[09:27] <zicronsand> i mean lets do the programming
[09:27] <ikonia> zicronsand: please stop being silly, how can you expect to fix something when you know nothing about it,
[09:27] <SMJ> 32-bit.
[09:27] <ikonia> zicronsand: if you want to fix it, read the bug report and set yourself up to fix it
[09:27] <zicronsand> mailto:lordsangram@gmail.com
[09:27] <ikonia> zicronsand: no
[09:27] <zicronsand> i am serious buddy
[09:27] <ikonia> zicronsand: please stop messing around.
[09:28] <zicronsand> i fix things for bluetooth module of android
[09:28] <zicronsand> is it worth is
[09:28] <xrfang> how do I remove a broken package?
[09:28] <zicronsand> i guess so
[09:28] <ikonia> zicronsand: then review the bug report and see if you can fix the problem
[09:28] <zicronsand> ikonia copy that
[09:29] <rethus> someone here use ATI 5450 with dual monitor - does this works well, and easy to setup)?
[09:29] <zicronsand> ikonia could i have your mail id or something
[09:29] <ikonia> zicronsand: no
[09:29] <zicronsand> mine is mailto:lordsangram@gmail.com
[09:29] <SMJ> I'm upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04. python2.7-minimal fails post-install configuration. what should I do now?
[09:29] <ikonia> zicronsand: please stop posting your email address
[09:29] <zicronsand> r u a girl?
[09:29] <betanick> lol
[09:29] <ikonia> zicronsand: that doesn't matter, please keep to the topic of this channel which is ubuntu support discussion
[09:29] <zicronsand> afraid of anything
[09:30]  * herkupus smells a troll
[09:30] <rysiek|pl> mmm troll
[09:30] <betanick> +o oj
[09:30] <betanick> oh*
[09:30] <rysiek|pl> heere it goes
[09:31] <themill> xrfang: do try to ask a sensible question with enough detail that people have a chance of answering it. Referring to your pastebin and where you got this package would be smart.
[09:31] <gusterhack> hello
[09:31] <xrfang> themill, sorry but I am preparing the screenshot
[09:31] <xrfang> I will upload and post the link
[09:32] <xrfang> the command and output is here: http://ubuntuone.com/p/1BCd/
[09:32] <zicronsand> i was kicked out i guess
[09:32] <zicronsand> no prob
[09:32] <zicronsand> so who actually started the thread for the rotator application
[09:33] <SMJ> I'm upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 (32-bit). python2.7-minimal fails post-install configuration. what should I do now?
[09:33] <zicronsand> logrotate
[09:33] <xrfang> the situation is in rev2874 of the program, I made some mistake in debconf script. then I think I have fixed the problem, but when try to install new version, it does not allow me, because it try to execute prerm script of the previous version
[09:33] <zicronsand> smj,did you follow the normal procedure
[09:33] <SMJ> zicronsand: tell me the normal procedure
[09:33] <zicronsand> you could mannually install the packages
[09:33] <zicronsand> lol
[09:33] <xrfang> btw, the package I am installing is a homemade package, not a ubuntu one
[09:34] <betanick> +o +b +quiet
[09:34] <ikonia> betanick: don't need a running commentary please.
[09:34] <betanick> +sorry
[09:35] <ikonia> no problem
[09:35] <SMJ> ok, where should I go looking for an answer?
[09:35] <gusterhack> :quit
[09:39] <ecolitan> will ubuntu 12.04 be an LTS ?
[09:39] <auronandace> yes
[09:39] <ecolitan> ty
[09:39] <auronandace> np
[09:43] <makara> hi. i sent my pc for repairs. They changed the desktop to 640 x 480 and now when I change back to 1920 x 1080 my settings are lost on reboot ??
[09:43] <makara> i save to /etc/X11/xorg.conf but still it loses settings. why?
[09:45] <milos-silni>  #bumblebee
[09:45] <_vaibhav_> how device driver is loaded with respect to its vendor and product id? I guess there has to be entry somewhere, can you please guide me?
[09:45] <pyarun> hey guys i need help with dir permessions..i need to 2 give 3 users rwx access to one dir so i have set the setgid attribute for dir and put all the three users in a  group. now when user a is creating file in dir group permissions are not set
[09:46] <pyarun> so user b and c are not able to access file created by user a
[09:46] <pyarun> how to give complete access to all three user
[09:49] <remoteCTRL> hi guys!
[09:49] <remoteCTRL> i would like to print a libre office document to a pdf file, how do i do that?
[09:49] <remoteCTRL> with open office that used to work...
[09:50] <betanick> remoteCTRL: save??
[09:51] <dddbmt> Hi guys. I've just installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my HP Pavilion dv3. But I'm having trouble getting the multi touch working on the touchpad. I've had it working before, but can't remember how - could anyone help me?
[09:52] <remoteCTRL> betanick: i see all types of files in the save dialog, loke odt, xml, doc, rtf, but pdf is unfortunately not amongst them...?
[09:53] <remoteCTRL> betanick: geeeez, he who can read has an advantage, there is even a very own menu item in the "ffile" menu "convert to pdf", thanks tho :D
[09:53] <makara> no one here
[09:54] <ikonia> makara: 1400 are here
[09:55] <Howie> morning all
[09:55] <makara> no comment
[09:56] <makara> remoteCTRL there's an icon on the toolbar EXPORT TO PDF
[09:57] <betanick> makara: he figured it out
[09:57] <remoteCTRL> makara: yeah thanks i found it meanwhile:) in earlier times that worked per prpint to pdf, document viewer for example still can do that, dunno why libre office changed that... but anyways as log as it is there...
[10:00] <Howie> AlanBell hi
[10:01] <rethus> someone here use ATI 5450 with dual monitor - does this works well, and easy to setup)?
[10:03] <henry_> I want to set up a multi-boot pc, I want the linux partitions to share a big "stuff" partition and have their individual partitions for booting
[10:03] <henry_> how do I pull this off?
[10:04] <makara> just installed natty-proposed updates to kernel and still can't connect by wifi
[10:04] <makara> is there some other 3rd party network manager I can install to 11.04 to get wifi working?
[10:05] <henry_> do you have wifi enabled?
[10:05] <henry_> right click on the symbol
[10:05] <makara> indeed I do
[10:05] <henry_> alright, I remember disabling it myself a while back without noticing it and spent hours trying to troubleshoot it <.<
[10:05] <cillo564> can other linux distro users use ubuntu one music store?
[10:06] <ikonia> cillo564: I believe it's locked to ubuntu
[10:06] <makara> henry_ when you install just select the advanced option to create your own partitions
[10:06] <mssever> henry_:  just create your "stuff" partition, then add it to each distro's /etc/fstab
[10:07] <cillo564> ikonia: im using debian that could be great if i can use it
[10:07] <henry_> thanls
[10:07] <henry_> ks*
[10:07] <ikonia> cillo564: I don't think you can
[10:08] <makara> does anyone actually use wifi on 11.04?
[10:08] <ikonia> makara: many people
[10:09] <makara> i'm so jealous
[10:09] <Omie__> Hi ! I wish to make installer of my software like ubuntu installer. thing will be installed on Ubuntu server. any hints to start with ?
[10:09] <ikonia> Omie__: do you mean you want to build a deb package for your software ?
[10:10] <SubNormal> can some one tell me why I get "No valid connections found!" when I try to get connection information, I can get on the internet but I can't access webmin from remote location (on the same network)
[10:10] <Omie__> ikonia: no, I've got a huge installer script which takes care of installing all things. I just want to make nice UI for it
[10:10] <ikonia> SubNormal: probably routing
[10:10] <mssever> Omie__: A .deb package, or a live CD installer?
[10:10] <ikonia> Omie__: then that's not something we deal with here, this channel is for ubuntu support
[10:10] <SubNormal> ikonia: do you know how I can fix that?
[10:10] <Omie__> i meant the way ubuntu os gets installed. that slideshow and all
[10:11] <prc33> hi, I've been having temperamental system freezes due to Xorg. I'm running 11.04 (xubuntu) with the AMD Catalyst drives. I've extracted the relevant syslog (http://paste.ubuntu.com/669083/). Can I report this as a bug? The reporting bugs page seems to heavily discourage reporting of X problems...
[10:11] <mssever> Omie__: You can google .deb packaging howto to find some info
[10:11] <Omie__> ikonia: okay, any idea where should I look for ?
[10:11] <ikonia> SubNormal: look at the routing table
[10:11] <ikonia> Omie__: google
[10:11] <mssever> Omie__: I think it's called Ubiquity. Google it
[10:11] <Omie__> ikonia: I did a little bit but thought to ask here first. Ubuntu's installer's name is ubqt something ?
[10:12] <Omie__> mssever: oh thats ! I only had heard, didnt know name spelled like that. Thanks :)
[10:12] <ikonia> Omie__: see what mssever said
[10:12] <Omie__> ikonia: yeap. will check. Thanks man ! cya !
[10:13] <mssever> Omie__: np
[10:13] <makara> so what makes them so special? why do the bugs in launchpad only apply to me when they're about a bug in the kernel? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/753174
[10:13] <SubNormal> ikonia allright I looked at the routing table, I could not find any thing that could help me :-/
[10:13] <ikonia> SubNormal: is your webmin machine on the internet or a local netowkr
[10:14] <ikonia> network
[10:14] <SubNormal> ikonia it's on the internet, but I was trying to set it up as a gateway when this started
[10:15] <ikonia> SubNormal: is this machine hosted on your network or a remote location
[10:15] <SubNormal> ikonia ah sorry, it's hosted on my localnetwork
[10:15] <ikonia> SubNormal: ok, what is it's internal IP address
[10:17] <SubNormal> 192.168.111.199
[10:18] <makara> and why do i feel like I'm being made to think I'm the only one with this problem?
[10:18] <makara> what can you sincerely suggest I do next?
[10:19] <ikonia> SubNormal: and what is your machines IP
[10:19] <ga_sk8er> i have an issue with my floppy drive
[10:19] <mssever> makara: I didn't catch the beginning of your problem, but if it's too difficult to get a solution here, try askubuntu..com
[10:20] <mssever> ga_sk8er: Do people still use floppy drives? :)
[10:20] <ikonia> I'm yet to see a question be asked makara
[10:20] <achu> hi
[10:20] <ga_sk8er> my bios finds the drive & ubuntu finds the drive but when i insert a disc & click the drive i get "unable to mount location"
[10:21] <ga_sk8er> msserver i actually need it to load a raid driver so i can load windows
[10:21] <achu> any body know how to password protect a file in ubuntu?
[10:22] <pyarun> hi, i ahve a dir where group(a,b,c) has rws permession, when a creates a file in dir permission that comes are rw------- , i want this file to be accessable to user b and c as well
[10:22] <ga_sk8er> id like to know why ubuntu is finding the drive but not reading the discs
[10:22] <makara> mssever, thanks I'll try them. Let me repeat here once more if you could take a look please
[10:22] <achu> ANYBODY PLZ HELP
[10:22] <SubNormal> ikonia i'm behind clearos gateway atm, and now i'm trying to put that gateway to rest and use ubuntu server 11.04 to take it's place
[10:22] <mssever> pyarun: You need to set your umask. Google it
[10:22] <makara> hi. i sent my pc for repairs. They changed the desktop to 640 x 480 and now when I change back to 1920 x 1080 my settings are lost on reboot ??
[10:22] <makara> i save to /etc/X11/xorg.conf but still it loses settings. why?
[10:23] <pyarun> mssever: but umask will change it system wide, can that be done on per dir basis
[10:23] <mssever> makara: How does this affect wifi? Or am I confusing you sith someone else?
[10:23] <SubNormal> ikonia my clearos IP is 192.168.111.1 and I belive this machine IP address is 192.168.111.199
[10:23] <makara> mssever, they are two unrelated questions
[10:24] <achu> COZ_ HERE?
[10:24] <mssever> pyarun: Not as far as I know, in stock linux, but there are Linux ACL (access control list) programs available, or so I've heard
[10:24] <makara> achu, what is your question?
[10:24] <ga_sk8er> over 100 ppl in here...anyone got an answer?
[10:24] <ikonia> SubNormal: what are you running on 192.168.111.1 and 192.168.111.199 what OS's
[10:24] <makara> ga_sk8er: be more specific please
[10:24] <iceroot> pyarun: have a look at setfacl
[10:24] <ikonia> ga_sk8er: why are you trying to load a raid driver in Ubuntu ?
[10:24] <mssever> ga_sk8er: I've got a feeling that no one here has any experience with floppy drives. I haven't used one in years, so I don't know how to help
[10:25] <ga_sk8er> my floppy drive shows up but when i put a disc in i get " unable to mount location"
[10:25] <ikonia> ga_sk8er: what file system is on the floppy
[10:25] <mssever> makara: I don't know much about X issues, but I suspect that a wrong driver is being loaded somehow
[10:25] <ga_sk8er> ikonia i need it to work so i can load a raid driver to my windows
[10:25] <ikonia> ga_sk8er: I need you to answer my questions
[10:26] <ikonia> ga_sk8er: what file system is on the floppy
[10:26] <ga_sk8er> the disk has been formated before if thats what ur asking
[10:26] <SubNormal> ikonia: 192.168.111.1 is my "old" gateway running clearos wich is still distributing my IP's, and 192.168.111.199 is this machine, ubuntu server 11.04 (with ubuntu desktop GUI)
[10:26] <achu> can i password protect a file in ubuntu?
[10:26] <mssever> achu: If somebody knew, they'd probably have answered
[10:27] <ikonia> SubNormal: ok - so from 192.168.111.199 can you ping 192.168.111.1
[10:27] <mssever> achu: What kind of file?
[10:27] <ikonia> ga_sk8er: what file system is on the floppy disk
[10:27] <ga_sk8er> the floppy? fat 32 i suppose. i formatted it with windows before
[10:27] <mssever> ga_sk8er: fat32? ntfs? something else?
[10:28] <ikonia> ga_sk8er: ok - so try to mount it manually
[10:28] <makara> mssever, the driver should be fine because I can switch the resolution, but the config file is not saving properly
[10:28] <ikonia> ga_sk8er: what do you want to do with the floppy in ubuntu ?
[10:28] <ga_sk8er> ikonia idk how
[10:28] <makara> mssever, maybe about the wifi question then
[10:28] <ga_sk8er> ikonia i want to be able to put a file to it
[10:28] <SubNormal> ikonia: yes I can, i'm running my 192.168.111.199 internet connection trough 192.168.111.1
[10:28] <mssever> makara: Have you tried backing up and deleting Xorg.conf?
[10:28] <auronandace> !mount | ga_sk8er
[10:29] <mssever> makara: These days, many configurations don't require an Xorg.conf
[10:29] <ikonia> SubNormal: ok - so how are you trying to access the webmin service
[10:29] <ga_sk8er> ubottu i know what mount is i just dont know how to do it manuallly. im sure liek everything else its a terminal command
[10:29] <mssever> makara: Can you repeat your wifi question?
[10:29] <ga_sk8er> lol
[10:29] <auronandace> !webmin | ikonia
[10:29] <ikonia> auronandace: I know what webmin is, please don't push factoids ay me if you're not following the conversation
[10:30] <achu> can i password protect a file in ubuntu?
[10:30] <achu> can i password protect a file in ubuntu?
[10:30] <achu> can i password protect a file in ubuntu?
[10:30] <achu> can i password protect a file in ubuntu?
[10:30] <achu> can i password protect a file in ubuntu?
[10:30] <FloodBot1> achu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:30] <auronandace> ikonia: sorry
[10:31] <ga_sk8er> so how do i manually mount the floppy
[10:31] <mssever> ga_sk8er: sudo mount -t auto /dev/whatever /mnt
[10:31] <ikonia> ga_sk8er: do you know what it's device file is
[10:31] <mssever> ga_sk8er: see man mount
[10:31] <ga_sk8er> ikonia no i dont
[10:31] <SubNormal> ikonia: from another local computer wich is 192.168.111.198 trough 192.168.111.1 to 192.168.111.199
[10:31] <ikonia> ga_sk8er: look in the syslog
[10:31] <ga_sk8er> ive had linux on here less than a week
[10:31] <mssever> !mount | ga_sk8er
[10:31] <ikonia> SubNormal: well that's never going to work unless you've set up 192.168.111.1 as an internal router
[10:32] <ga_sk8er> ubottu i told u i know what mount is just not how to manually do it
[10:32] <ikonia> SubNormal: 192.168.111.198 can see 192.168.111.199 without going through 192.168.111.1 as it's on the same network
[10:32] <mssever> ga_sk8er: did you follow ubottu's link?
[10:32] <SubNormal> ikonia: well that has worked for 3 weeks now, until last night when I was trying to setup my ubuntu as the gateway
[10:32] <mssever> ga_sk8er: or the command I gave you?
[10:33] <ikonia> SubNormal: that is bad networking setup
[10:33] <ikonia> SubNormal: they are on the same network and should not be going through a gateway
[10:33] <ga_sk8er> ur command said "or whatever"
[10:34] <ga_sk8er> i need to know the whatever part
[10:34] <ga_sk8er> i did click the link too
[10:34] <mssever> ga_sk8er: use the path yo your floppy drive. I don't know it. You'll have to look it up on your machine
[10:34] <mssever> ga_sk8er: but if I had to guess, I'd guess /dev/fd0
[10:35] <SubNormal> ikonia: sorry but am I missunderstanding something here, gateway=router? I thought that gateway was to control the local network and distributing IP addresses
[10:35] <ikonia> SubNormal: geting an IP Address does not mean it has to route through that device
[10:35] <makara> mssever: i have pc with a d-link wifi device. it can detect wifis in the area, but stalls on authentication. i get the same log output as this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/753174
[10:35] <ga_sk8er> i typed in sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0
[10:36] <ga_sk8er> still get same message "unable to mount location
[10:36] <ikonia> if you are using 192.168.111.198 you should be able to get to 192.168.111.199 without the need for any routing
[10:36] <mssever> ga_sk8er: you missed the last part--the mount point. I really suggest you read man mount, so you'll have some idea what you're doing
[10:36] <Myrtti> ga_sk8er: if that is your whole command, then it can't work as you've not defined a mount location, ie a place where you want the mount to be
[10:36] <makara> mssever: I installed the natty-proposed kernel updates ...38-11 and still it gives the same error
[10:37] <ga_sk8er> myrtti...huh????
[10:38] <mssever> makara: I don't have a browser open at the moment to look at the bug, but I don't have any special knowledge of working around kernel bugs. Sorry
[10:38] <Myrtti> ga_sk8er: /media/fd0 or something like that
[10:38] <mssever> ga_sk8er: sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /mnt
[10:38] <makara> mssever, I've heard about other problem with WAP, but when I use WEP or no authentication it still gives issues. i think its a broader issue than just the wifi because my GSM modem also gives trouble, as double the ethernet after every 3rd boot or so
[10:39] <Jaco> hi all .. why the wireshark can't display mine tp link wireless card?
[10:39] <ga_sk8er> mount point mnt does not exist
[10:39] <mssever> makara: I'm sorry. I don't really know anything about those kinds of problems. My wireless works perfectly, so I've never had to troubleshoot it.
[10:39] <ikonia> ga_sk8er: make the mount point
[10:39] <mssever> ga_sk8er: did you leave off the /?
[10:40] <makara> mssever: are you just a friendly, or do you work for Canonical?
[10:40] <ga_sk8er> im likei n a linux diaper here...walk me through the stages of this stuff
[10:40] <mssever> makara: I don't work for Canonical, and neither do most people here
[10:40] <mssever> makara: This is just a community support channel
[10:40] <mssever> makara: nothing official
[10:40] <makara> is askubuntu.com official?
[10:41] <mssever> ga_sk8er: Start by typing the command with everything
[10:41] <mssever> makara: No. To get official support, you have to purchase a support contract from Canonical
[10:42] <ga_sk8er> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /floppy -t vfat
[10:42] <makara> so what do you get out of being here? how do you know what most other people here are about?
[10:42] <Myrtti> mssever, makara: this is as official as the free community support, mentioned and linked by the official websites can be
[10:43] <mssever> makara: I just like helping. As do most other people
[10:43] <ga_sk8er> that command?
[10:43] <ga_sk8er> that command?
[10:43] <ga_sk8er> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /floppy -t vfat
[10:43] <Myrtti> makara: paying back the help I've been given in the past. Anyway, deeper motivations can and should be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:43] <mssever> ga_sk8er: what about that command?
[10:43] <ga_sk8er> is that the one u mena?
[10:43] <ga_sk8er> *mean
[10:44] <mssever> ga_sk8er: sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /mnt
[10:44] <mssever> ga_sk8er: this is the third time I've given this command
[10:46] <ga_sk8er> i get a weird message
[10:46] <mssever> ga_sk8er: What is it?
[10:46] <ga_sk8er> mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
[10:46] <herkupus> ga_sk8er: what type of floppy drive do you have?
[10:46] <auronandace> ga_sk8er: have you plugged the floppy in?
[10:46] <mssever> ga_sk8er: Have a look at the /dev directory and see if you've got anything that looks like it might be related to your floppy drive
[10:46] <wh1zz0> Sup guys
[10:47] <ga_sk8er> yes...its internal & the pc recognizes it
[10:47] <mssever> ga_sk8er: before you can do anything else, you need to know what your machine is calling your floppy drive
[10:47] <wh1zz0> Anyone successfully made the fireburn cursor work on natty?
[10:47] <herkupus> .oO(ls /sys/block)
[10:48] <mssever> ga_sk8er: it'll be under /dev, but if it isn't /dev/fd0, then you'll just have to hunt
[10:48] <ga_sk8er> if disk is in i dont get that message about not valid block device
[10:48] <mssever> ga_sk8er: then try the mount command with the disk inserted
[10:48] <wh1zz0> make*
[10:48] <glebihan> ga_sk8er, are you trying to mount the floppy drive without any disk in it ?
[10:49] <mssever> ga_sk8er: You can't mount a floppy that isn't inserted into the drive, so there's no point in trying
[10:49] <lachie> hi
[10:49] <ga_sk8er> i went into disk utility
[10:50] <ga_sk8er> its /dev/fd0
[10:50] <ga_sk8er> kinda weird though
[10:50] <herkupus> ga_sk8er: i don't whats weird about mount not working if there is no floppy inserted
[10:50] <ga_sk8er> i put a disc in & it shows at bottom of disk utility no media detected
[10:51] <herkupus> ga_sk8er: i don't see whats weird about mount not working if there is no floppy inserted
[10:51] <ga_sk8er> i did put a disc in...its not detected
[10:51] <ga_sk8er> there is a disc in it
[10:51] <mssever> ga_sk8er: Floppy drives can't detect media that isn't mounted
[10:51] <mssever> ga_sk8er: Insert the disk, then try to mount it
[10:51] <steph_> hi, I need help with Ubuntu Minimal install 11.04
[10:51] <ga_sk8er> now i know its dev/fd0
[10:52] <herkupus> ga_sk8er: floppy drives cannot report disc insertion (hardware limitation). you have to mount it to see if a disc is inserted or not.
[10:52] <steph_> I just went through the setup, rebooted and now I have 'grub_xputs' not found
[10:52] <steph_> what do I do now?
[10:52] <mssever> ga_sk8er: no, it's not dev/fd0. It's /dev/fd0
[10:52] <steph_> its a minimal cd...
[10:52] <ga_sk8er> sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /mnt
[10:52] <NEWy> hello, does anyone knows how to fix the following error with ubuntu and kvm: vnet0: received packet with own address as source address ?
[10:52] <ga_sk8er> thats 4th time ive ran that command with a disk in the drive
[10:53] <steph_> hope someone can help me
[10:53] <ga_sk8er> it still dont find it
[10:53] <NEWy> ifconfigs says that the vnet0 and vnet1 has different macs
[10:53] <mssever> ga_sk8er: what happens when you run the command with the disk in the drive
[10:53] <steph_> my computer won't boot
[10:53] <auronandace> ga_sk8er: have you looked under /mnt? does it show you whats on your floppy?
[10:54] <ga_sk8er> the floppy drive lights up for a second or 2 like its working but terminal does nothing
[10:54] <mssever> ga_sk8er: if there's no error message, then it worked
[10:54] <padi999> I have xubuntu on /dev/sda1 (bootable) and want it as an exact copy on sdb1 (another ssd drive). Is dd the safest option here? Since it's not just data but an OS that gets "mirrored"
[10:54] <mssever> ga_sk8er: look at /mnt and you'll see your floppy's contents
[10:54] <ga_sk8er> how do i look at /mnt?
[10:55] <herkupus> ls /mnt
[10:55] <wildbat> steph_, try reinstall !grub
[10:55] <mssever> padi999: sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1
[10:55] <steph_> wildbat: how?
[10:55] <padi999> mssever: I know how to invoke dd, the question was different :) but thanks
[10:55] <wildbat> !grub| steph_
[10:55] <mssever> padi999:  Sorry, I didn't read your question thoroughly
[10:55] <ga_sk8er> i put that in terminal & i get nothing
[10:56] <padi999> mssever: I know ^^ it's ok
[10:56] <steph_> so I've got the minimal CD
[10:56] <mssever> padi999: I've used dd successfuly for this exact thing several times
[10:56] <steph_> what do I do?
[10:56] <auronandace> ga_sk8er: is there anything on the floppy?
[10:56] <padi999> mssever: perfect, then I'll do it too.
[10:56] <ga_sk8er> how do i read whats on the floppy?
[10:56] <ga_sk8er> i know this floppy has files on it cause it has my mobo bios upgrade i did a while back
[10:57] <mssever> ga_sk8er: type mount by itself and make sure your floppy shows up in the list
[10:57] <auronandace> ga_sk8er: if nothing is on the floppy and you've looked at its mountpoint then you are not going to find anything (because nothing is there)
[10:57] <padi999> ga_sk8er: floppies are odd. cat /proc/scsi/scsi shows the floppy but the OS does not automount it. Normally manual mounting works however without problems
[10:58] <ga_sk8er> i still got that its not a valid block
[10:58] <steph_> what is rescue mode on the minimal Cd?
[10:58] <padi999> ga_sk8er: instead of /dev/sdc (or however it is called) try finding the primary partition on it /dev/sdc4 usually
[10:58] <wildbat> steph_ Mini; CD do have a shell for you :>  just boot it, drop to shell , mount your drive and install grub
[10:58] <mssever> ga_sk8er: But you said earlier that the mount command worked without error message. Which is it? How can we help you if you give conflicting information?
[10:59] <wildbat> steph_, try it you will see :>
[10:59] <padi999> (that's how it was when I "digitalized" all old floppies, however :)
[10:59] <steph_> wildbat: I was following instructions from a website to install LXDE, I really don't know much about this stuff
[10:59] <ga_sk8er> i guess i didnt have disc in all the way. now its going
[10:59] <ga_sk8er> but not showing floppy
[10:59] <mssever> padi999: Ah, someone who knows something about floppies! Thanks
[11:00] <mssever> ga_sk8er: What does "going, but not showing floppy" mean?
[11:00] <wildbat> steph_: then URL have about 4 method of doing it from a CD.
[11:00] <steph_> wildbat: I don't know how to get to shell from LiveCd
[11:00] <ga_sk8er> it only shows my hard drive
[11:00] <steph_> well I wanted to try minimal
[11:00] <mssever> ga_sk8er: what only shows your hard drive?
[11:00] <ga_sk8er> i meant the command is going now but not showing the floppy
[11:00] <steph_> but now I can't get passed grub
[11:01] <ga_sk8er> mount
[11:01]  * steph_ blush
[11:01] <mssever> ga_sk8er: The command can't be "going."
[11:01] <wildbat> steph_, boot the CD rescue mode
[11:01] <mssever> ga_sk8er: please be specific
[11:01] <ga_sk8er> i did that command like u asked & only drive it shows is hard drive...no floppy listed
[11:01] <ga_sk8er> mount
[11:01] <padi999> mssever: haha, yeah, it's so refreshing finding the old OLD games on the discs (and then trying them with dosbox) ^^  I had IOMEGA ZIPS for which you need the parallel port (module ppa). Most computers nowadays don't even have it ^^
[11:01] <herkupus> ga_sk8er: grep -w fd0 /proc/mounts
[11:01] <wildbat> steph_, it give you root shell
[11:02] <mssever> padi999: I remember the horors of working with Zip disks back in the day
[11:02] <ga_sk8er> not doing anything
[11:02] <padi999> mssever: sure. Still a horror: Let them drop 20cm and they are gone ^^
[11:03] <mssever> ga_sk8er: Try this command: sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt || echo "failed"
[11:03] <padi999> the most amazing thing are the disk/filesizes from back then ^^
[11:04] <ga_sk8er> sudo mount /dev/fd0 .mnt || echo "failed"
[11:04] <ga_sk8er> mount: mount point .mnt does not exist
[11:04] <ga_sk8er> failed
[11:04] <mssever> ga_sk8er: You made a typo
[11:04] <ikonia> ga_sk8er: READ what people are giving you
[11:04] <steph_> wildbat: a) how do I get root shell, b) how do I reinstall grub from there?
[11:05] <ga_sk8er> sorry
[11:06] <aguitel> is there anyway to install ubuntu in ipad2 ?
[11:06] <ikonia> aguitel: no
[11:06] <aguitel> ikonia, do you work with ipad 2?
[11:06] <ikonia> aguitel: yes
[11:07] <aguitel> ikonia, how to connect to pc this device ?
[11:07] <wildbat> steph_: boot the CD 's rescue mode.
[11:07] <ikonia> aguitel: in what respecty
[11:07] <ikonia> respect
[11:07] <aguitel> what means?
[11:07] <ikonia> aguitel: what do you mean
[11:08] <ga_sk8er> i typed it just liek u did
[11:08] <aguitel> ikonia, to transfers files
[11:08] <ga_sk8er> i copied & pasted that time
[11:08] <ikonia> aguitel: ipad support is not really available in linux
[11:08] <mssever> ga_sk8er: and what was the result?
[11:08] <ga_sk8er> terminal didnt tell any results
[11:09] <mssever> ga_sk8er: how about "mount"?
[11:09] <aguitel> ikonia, but in windows can i transfer files via usb ?
[11:09] <ikonia> aguitel: you've not using windows
[11:09] <ikonia> aguitel: you're using Linux
[11:10] <aguitel> ikonia, i have win+linux
[11:10] <ikonia> aguitel: then use windows
[11:10] <mssever> aguitel: It means that you can transfer via USB from Windows, but not from Linux
[11:10] <ga_sk8er> sorry. dint mean to leave the room
[11:10] <revilodraw> hey y'all, i've used ubuntu since 2006 and am currently using the newest distro with all updates installed and no proprietary drivers on my toshiba laptop. of the 5 or 6 laptops i have installed ubuntu on, none have ever worked flawlessly with suspend/hibernate. is there a reason for this? they have always gone down for suspend or hibernate properly, but sometimes don't wake up, which is annoying. should i just get over it
[11:11] <mssever> ga_sk8er: how about "mount"?
[11:11] <ani> hi,I was trying to get a certificate by doing this command..
[11:11] <aguitel> mssever, my question is :is ipad2 have usb port ?
[11:11] <ani> "keytool -genkey -keyalg rsa -alias myKeyName"
[11:11] <ikonia> revilodraw: suspend has a lot of issues, mostly to do with video card properitary drivers
[11:11] <ikonia> aguitel: not on linux, no
[11:11] <ga_sk8er> still only lists hard drive
[11:11] <mssever> aguitel: Dunno. I was just explaining what ikonia was telling you
[11:11] <ga_sk8er> i may just have to buy usb external floppy drive
[11:12] <revilodraw> ikonia: thank you, but i'm not using any proprietary drivers :s
[11:12] <ani> and for this ask for password of keystore
[11:12] <ikonia> revilodraw: the open ones can cause the same issues, especially ati
[11:12] <ani> I need to know the password of keystore
[11:12] <SubNormal> ikonia: did you see my PM?
[11:12] <revilodraw> ikonia: lol damn, ok
[11:12] <mssever> ga_sk8er: I don't think you're telling me everything. If the mount command succeded, you'd see in in "mount." If it failed, you would have seen "failed." There are no other possibilities.
[11:12] <ikonia> SubNormal: noipe
[11:13] <ani> can anybody help me?
[11:13] <SubNormal> ikonia: or cant you recive PM's?
[11:13] <ikonia> SubNormal: just didn't get it, post it in the channel
[11:14] <mssever> ani: If you don't know the password, ask the person who set the password.
[11:14] <SubNormal> ikonia: ok np's
[11:14] <ani> it's default with ubuntu
[11:14] <SubNormal> ikonia: this is my setup http://i54.tinypic.com/vskt4y.jpg
[11:14] <ani> I have checked Synaptic package manager
[11:14] <mssever> ani: have you tried your regular user password?
[11:14] <ga_sk8er> i see it when i go into "computer" but it dont show up in the mount...i dont understand this at all
[11:15] <ani> JKS keystore was already there
[11:15] <ani> in system
[11:15] <ikonia> SubNormal: that's fine, it doesn't change what I said
[11:15] <ani> yes,I have tried
[11:15] <SubNormal> ikonia: that it's a bad setup?
[11:15] <dddbmt> I've just installed Ubuntu 11.04 and did "apt-get install chromium-browser". But no matter what I do I can't get Chromium to be my default browser.
[11:15] <ani> and also tried with keystore default password that is "changeit"
[11:16] <ani> but get no result
[11:16] <dddbmt> I've tried in the settings for chrome, and tried the "Do you want to make chromium default" alert that pops up.
[11:16] <aguitel> ikonia, mssever ,i need some advice, what is best to buy ,ipod 2 or Samsung - Galaxy Tab 10.1 ?
[11:16] <ikonia> SubNormal: no, but you said you where sending traffic through 111.1 between 111.199 and 111.198
[11:16] <ikonia> aguitel: that's not what this channel is for
[11:16] <ikonia> aguitel: this channel is for ubuntu support
[11:16] <mssever> ga_sk8er: If mounting succeeded, then you'll find the files in /mnt, If there are no files there, it's because the disk is blank. If mmounting didn't succeed, then you would've gotten the message "failed."
[11:16] <glebihan> dddbmt, try using "gnome-default-applications-properties"
[11:17] <anli_> This is an off topic question, a friend of mine has got a directory of images fubared, all images has been brighter than before
[11:17] <anli_> Any ideas?
[11:17] <mav> hi
[11:17] <ikonia> aguitel: please don't ask offtopic questions
[11:17] <gamer1990> or from the command line with     sudo update-alternatives –config x-www-browser
[11:17] <ikonia> aguitel: sorry, that was for anli_
[11:17] <ikonia> anli_: please don't ask offtopic questions
[11:17] <anli_> ok
[11:18] <anli_> The #images_has_been_brighter channel is so lonely, but ok, I will respect that
[11:18] <aguitel> ikonia, ok
[11:18] <ikonia> aguitel: sorry about that
[11:18] <anli_> I try in #windows instead, maybe they like off-topic questions
[11:18] <mav> I am new here and in ubuntu. I need to know can I boot Ubuntu 11.04 from usb 3.0 hard drive?
[11:18] <ga_sk8er> msserver when it pops up "unable to mount location" it says below that "no media in the drive"
[11:19] <ga_sk8er> but i have a disc in so i know theres media in the drive
[11:19] <mssever> ga_sk8er: We're working from the command line. Remember? Switching interfaces all the time is only confusing
[11:19] <glebihan> ga_sk8er, did you try with different disks ?
[11:19] <auronandace> ga_sk8er: you don't seem to want to listen to what people have already explained to you several times
[11:19] <ga_sk8er> yes i have 2 different discs here
[11:19] <devish> hi,i have few questions regarding ubuntu
[11:20] <NEWy> hello, does anyone knows how to fix the following error with ubuntu and kvm: vnet0: received packet with own address as source address ?
[11:20] <SubNormal> ikonia: when I looked at the picture, I noticed that 111.198 does not go trough 111.1 to get to 111.199 it goes trough the switch, my bad
[11:20] <devish> first, what is the latest eclipse package it has in the repo
[11:20] <ga_sk8er> im doing everything im getting told to do
[11:20] <ikonia> SubNormal: thats fine, then you should ahve no problem accessing the webmin service
[11:20] <mav> I am new here and in ubuntu. I need to know can I boot Ubuntu 11.04 from usb 3.0 hard drive?
[11:20] <ikonia> SubNormal: if you can't access it there is a problem witht he service
[11:21] <SubNormal> ikonia: but i'm still not able to connect to my webmin
[11:21] <mssever> devish: You can search synaptic and find that info
[11:21] <glebihan> devish,
[11:21] <glebihan> devish, 3.5.2-8
[11:21] <ikonia> SubNormal: then there is a problem with the webmin service setup
[11:21] <mssever> ga_sk8er: Actually, you aren't. I've had to repeat things many times, and correct many things
[11:22] <dr-willis> mav you should be able to.
[11:22] <mssever> ga_sk8er: And now the info you've given can't possibly be all correct, so you must be leaving something out
[11:22] <SubNormal> ikonia: my ubuntu machine network went bad yesterday after I connected a cable from it to another pc to check if ubuntu was sharing its connection.
[11:22] <dddbmt> glebihan, how do I do that?
[11:22] <ga_sk8er> sorry im not too good at the terminal commands. thats why i dont care too much for linux. half the stuff u do in linux is a terminal command
[11:23] <ikonia> SubNormal: then review the networking setup on the ubuntu machine
[11:23] <SubNormal> ikonia: almost instantly as I connected the network cable the ubuntu internet stoped working
[11:23] <devish> secondly , i have dell bluetooth headset ,is it supported in ubuntu out of box, with services like audio chat etc.
[11:23] <mssever> mssever: Anyway, I have to go to class now, so I've gotta run.
[11:23] <glebihan> dddbmt, launch that command from terminal
[11:23] <auronandace> ga_sk8er: it might help if you highlight who you are talking to
[11:23] <auronandace> !who | ga_sk8er
[11:23] <mav> dr-willis: I tried  but I have problems. Some times when I restart my laptop it just accidentaly shut down.
[11:23] <ga_sk8er> ive tried 2 differnts discs & it wont read either of them. bios reads the drive. the drive shows up in computer. but when i type in "mount" it only lists my hard drive
[11:24] <herkupus> ga_sk8er: does  ls /sys/block  show fd0?
[11:24] <dr-willis> mav no idea on that. try the hd in a usb2 port perhaps.
[11:24] <dddbmt> glebihan, it worked perfectly - thank you for your time! :)
[11:24] <SubNormal> ikonia: is there any chance that you could guide me trough this?
[11:24] <glebihan> dddbmt, you're welcome
[11:24] <padi999> in /etc/fstab I have a device (ntfs) which should be mounted automatically IF it is connected. I have the "nofail" tag invoked BUT when the device is unplugged it still stops the boot-process. This is bad because I can only connect via ssh (no monitor) but the sshd is only started after that...
[11:25] <ga_sk8er> herkupus yes it does
[11:25] <ga_sk8er> thats a new command nobody else has told me
[11:25] <MuNk`> i got a odd bug , all the indicator icons in the top menu bar keep moving on there own to the right further and further off my screen...
[11:25] <MuNk`> any ideas?
[11:25] <padi999> /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_SAMSUNG_HD203DJKWDRJ1LZ204776-part1   /media/ntfs_hdd        ntfs    noatime,defaults,uid=1009,gid=1004,rw,nofail    0       0
[11:25] <herkupus> ga_sk8er: just wanted to make sure the kernel really knows the fd0 block device
[11:25] <mav> dr-willis: Okay thanks :) But do you maybe know can mount '/' and 'boot' partition on internal hard drive and other ubuntu partitions on external hard drive?
[11:25] <padi999> this is the invocation. It works for the mounting but nofail has no effect
[11:26] <devish>  i have dell bluetooth headset ,is it supported in ubuntu out of box, with services like audio chat etc.
[11:26] <dr-willis> padi999:  its possble that nofail option is not correct. ive never noticed such an option befor.
[11:26] <herkupus> ga_sk8er: are both floppy discs bios updates?
[11:27] <padi999> dr-willis: I might invoke the mount command as an init script rather than having it in fstab. Then at least sshd starts earlier. But that's kind of a hack ^^
[11:27] <dr-willis> mav you can put /home or whatever on external hds.. yes...
[11:27] <ga_sk8er> no. the other i got from my mom. i think its just some old clipart pics she has
[11:27] <glebihan> padi999, I think the nofail option is only used by fsck
[11:27] <dr-willis> padi999:  use /etc/rc.local ;)
[11:27] <padi999> glebihan: I see. So there is no way to say: "mount only if hdd is plugged"? :)
[11:28] <padi999> dr-willis: yeah ^^
[11:29] <ga_sk8er> herkupus 1 is my bios update & the other disk i  got from my mom. i think its some old clipart of hers
[11:29] <glebihan> padi999, check the "nobootwait" option
[11:29] <herkupus> ga_sk8er: can you try to make an image file of the floppy: sudo dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/tmp/floppy.img
[11:30] <glebihan> padi999, never used it but it looks like it could be the correct one
[11:30] <steph_> dammit
[11:30] <steph_> I just did a complete resintall of Ubuntu 11.04 minimal and I got the "grub_xputs" not found error again
[11:31] <steph_> AGAIN!!!
[11:31] <steph_> why?
[11:31] <imi> re
[11:32] <ga_sk8er> i guess my moms disk is blank
[11:32] <Hyperbyte> What's the recommended command-line tool for managing startup services in Ubuntu?
[11:32] <ikonia> Hyperbyte: update-rc.d
[11:32] <padi999> glebihan: thanks
[11:33] <Hyperbyte> ikonia, how do I list all current services and runlevels/start with taht?
[11:33] <ikonia> Hyperbyte: worth checking the man page on it before using it
[11:33] <herkupus> ga_sk8er: that does not answer my question
[11:33] <ga_sk8er> 0+0 records in
[11:33] <ga_sk8er> 0+0 records out
[11:33] <ga_sk8er> 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 1.99242 s, 0.0 kB/s
[11:34] <ga_sk8er> if thees nothing thee, theres nothing to copy
[11:34] <herkupus> ga_sk8er: even if the disc is blank, it should not read only 0 records
[11:34] <ani> where will I get valid KeyStore key entry containing a private key and corresponding public key certificate chain in my system?
[11:34] <Hyperbyte> ikonia, I don't see it on the manpage.  In fact, the manpage suggests it can't be done.  It states the tool is only for updating the services, doesn't say anything about listening them.
[11:35] <wildbat> steph_ why are you using miniCD thou while you umfamiliar with ubuntu .
[11:35] <ikonia> Hyperbyte: all services run at run level 2 now, ubuntu only uses run level 2
[11:35] <glebihan> ikonia, is update-rc.d still in use with upstart ?
[11:36] <ikonia> glebihan: I believe so
[11:36] <Hyperbyte> ikonia, okay.. so how can I get a list of all enabled/disabled services?
[11:36] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[11:37] <ikonia> Hyperbyte: I've not read it
[11:37] <mav> dr-willis: Sorry if I ask too much but I just want to be sure. I have internal hd with 2 partitions. One is recovery and other one is boot partition for XP. Now  I bought Transcend 750GB external hd.  so, can i split by GParted XP boot partition so and new one partition on internal hd use to mount '/' and '/boot' partiton and on Transcend hd mount other partitions(swaparea, /usr, /var, /temp, /home) without messing with RAID and LVM?
[11:37] <glebihan> ikonia, the man page only mentions System V scripts
[11:37] <ikonia> glebihan: really, could be wrong
[11:37] <ikonia> glebihan: as in I could be wrong
[11:37] <ga_sk8er> herkupus idk then
[11:38] <steph_> wildbat: familiar yes. expert no.
[11:38] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, try "service --status-all"
[11:39] <auronandace> ga_sk8er: you need to mount the disk before you dd an image from it
[11:39] <Hyperbyte> glebihan, awesome!  And then I can use update-rc.d to enable/disable, or should I use another tool for that?
[11:39] <steph_> wildbat: it shouldn't matter, an absolute novice should be able to load the minicd and get it to boot!!!
[11:39] <dr-willis> mav you can put / and /boot inernal  and mount / home to external.  i dint see the need for a dizen partions fir the otger plaves.
[11:39] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, I don't think update-rc.d can be used with upstart, but I'm not sure
[11:39] <ga_sk8er> i just tried fdrawcmd & i get " open floppy: permission denied"
[11:39] <Hyperbyte> glebihan, which program should I use for managing upstart jobs?
[11:39] <wildbat> steph_ , may be :)
[11:41] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, from what I've learned so far, I don't think there is any tool for it yet, you have to edit the scripts in /etc/init/ manually
[11:41] <Hyperbyte> Hmm, okay
[11:41] <steph_> wildbat: my conclusion is that the MiniCD X64 is broken
[11:41] <mav> dr-willis: I just read it on ubuntu site like sugestion, i still learning :)))
[11:41] <wildbat> steph_,  i doubted it
[11:43] <steph_> well, I have followed the install to default...  I have simply pressed enter... and it will not boot
[11:43] <ga_sk8er> cant i change the floppy in fstasb?
[11:44] <glebihan> ga_sk8er, your floppy drive should not be in fstab
[11:44] <steph_> and, I even did it twice
[11:44] <Omie__> hey eveyone ! I installed ubiquity on my ubuntu desktop but it doesnt run
[11:44] <ga_sk8er> it is
[11:44] <Omie__> actually nothing happens, I get back to console
[11:44] <ga_sk8er> im also googling
[11:45] <mav> dr-willis: Thanks man :) I'm just going to try :)
[11:46] <Duolos> I can NOT, for the life of me, get the Java JDK installed!  Anyone know what I'm supposed to do other than extract the archive?  Java's installation notes are apparently outdated.
[11:46] <susundbe1g> Duolos: install one from the repository?
[11:47] <susundbe1g> Duolos: If you insist to have sun java, see: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-jre-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html
[11:47] <Duolos> susundbe1g: I'm using it to develop software for Android, so Sun Java is a better option.
[11:47] <susundbe1g> i agree
[11:48] <ga_sk8er> i found a link online that says in fstasb im supposed to add in vfat but i cant tell if i replace "type" with it or if its another one of the "options"
[11:49] <tangqifa> hai
[11:49] <Ekushey> ga_sk8er: what link is it? your question is not clean
[11:49] <ga_sk8er> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3687.html
[11:49] <Duolos> susundbe1g: Ah, that's what I was missing.  Didn't realize ubuntu removed sun Java from it's own repos.
[11:50] <ga_sk8er> they need pictures on this stuff
[11:50] <Ekushey> ga_sk8er: checking, wait
[11:50] <susundbe1g> Duolos: Happy coding!
[11:50] <Duolos> susundbe1g: Thank you, sir!
[11:51] <Ekushey> ga_sk8er: yes I'm there, what seems to be the problem?
[11:51] <ga_sk8er> do i add in "vfat" as a type or an option
[11:51] <neglected> hai guise
[11:51] <glebihan> ga_sk8er, one more, your floppy *should not* be in fstab
[11:51] <neglected> have you ever tried crossover games?
[11:52] <bazhang> neglected, thats not on topic here
[11:52] <bazhang> neglected, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat please
[11:52] <Ekushey> ga_sk8er: yeah using vfat should be fine
[11:53] <neglected> crossover games it's an ubuntu application
[11:53] <ga_sk8er> but is it a "type" or an "option
[11:53] <Ekushey> ga_sk8er: type
[11:53] <bazhang> neglected, which repo is it in
[11:53] <ga_sk8er> they need pictures in these help sites when they tell ppl how to do things
[11:53] <ga_sk8er> thanks
[11:53] <ga_sk8er> so i erase auto?
[11:54] <Ekushey> ga_sk8er: you can leave the line as it is...
[11:54] <ga_sk8er> its not working as it is
[11:54] <neglected> i found in ubuntu software center
[11:55] <MuNk`> ummm is it possible to move the icons/indicator-icons ?
[11:55] <Ekushey> ga_sk8er: did you try mouting the floppy using mount command?
[11:56] <bazhang> neglected, its essentially wine, but trial period only. may as well stick with wine
[11:56] <ga_sk8er> yes i believe thats what msserver had me do
[11:56] <bazhang> neglected, some trouble installing it? or just wish to chat about it
[11:56] <Ekushey> ms server?
[11:57] <ga_sk8er> another user in here
[11:57] <neglected> no trouble man, chill
[11:57] <Ekushey> user on your ubuntu machine?
[11:57] <Tim55> bazhang hey man. i need help
[11:58] <bazhang> Tim55, ask the channel please, give as many details as possible; if someone knows they will answer
[11:58] <Tim55> how to cook an egg?
[11:58] <damo22> O_o
[11:58] <Sp4rKy> ...
[11:58] <Pici> Tim55: This is Ubuntu support, not Cooking support, try #ubuntu-offtopic or #help
[11:58] <usr13_> I have 10.04 and most everything works nicely but something amiss with recordmydesktop and it may not be a problem with recordmydesktop itself, but here's what it does.  When I make a video and then play it, the video is way ahead of the audio.  The video runs 3 or 4 times faster, audio is normal but video is way fast.  Video finishes and playback ends and the audio is cut off in mid-sentence only 1/3 or 1/4th of the way through.  Any ideas?
[11:59] <auronandace> Ekushey: he means another nick in this room
[11:59] <Feldegast> Tim55 get really mad and sit on it?
[11:59] <profiterole> Just buy an egg roll!
[11:59] <Tim55> bazhang i need to assign " paste text " to crtl+v keys
[11:59] <Tim55> how ?
[11:59] <ga_sk8er> eku...no a chatter in the chatroom
[11:59] <Ekushey> auronandace: oh
[11:59] <MuNk`> Anyone know how to edit com.canonical.Unity.Panel ? cause my icons keep moving off my screen
[11:59] <ChessTeach> I am having trouble using mailutils, I installed it, and am able to send emails without errors, but nothing shows up on the other end.
[11:59] <Ekushey> ga_sk8er: ok, did the mount command work when you tried it?
[12:00] <ga_sk8er> no
[12:00] <usr13_> ChessTeach: What method are you using to send emails?
[12:00] <ChessTeach> mail chessteach@gmail.com
[12:01] <ChessTeach> i fill out the fields and click ctrl d
[12:01] <usr13_> ChessTeach: So you are using gmail's pop server?
[12:01] <ChessTeach> i didn't configure the smtp server
[12:01] <ChessTeach> i am not sure how
[12:01] <usr13_> ChessTeach: Or are you using the standard web-based interface gmail.google.com ?
[12:02] <ChessTeach> no console
[12:02] <Ekushey> ga_sk8er: aftre inserting a floppy disk the following command should work: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[12:02] <damo22> no, comma, console
[12:02] <damo22> :P
[12:03] <usr13_> ChessTeach: Are you using a mail client?  Or are you using gmail's web-based mail, (the standard/normal method)?
[12:03] <ChessTeach> i want to use mailutils, and command line program, i have my own domain name which I would like all emails to go out through as well as a host for the domain name
[12:04] <usr13_> ChessTeach: Are you using gmail to send these emails?  Or not?
[12:04] <ChessTeach> not
[12:04] <Pici> ChessTeach: Have you setup postfix?
[12:04] <ChessTeach> no, like i said i am not sure what i need to set up
[12:06] <ga_sk8er> sorry my irc client booted me
[12:06] <ga_sk8er> what was that command?
[12:07] <ChessTeach> so i need to set up postfix in order for this to work?
[12:07] <Pici> ChessTeach: I'd start by looking here: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html
[12:08] <Feldegast> aftre inserting a floppy disk the following command should work: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[12:08] <ga_sk8er> someone gave me the terminal command i need but then xchat closed out on me
[12:08] <Feldegast> ga_sk8er that's for you
[12:08] <ChessTeach> Pici: thanks
[12:09] <ga_sk8er> gotta be root
[12:10] <Feldegast> ga_sk8er so make it.... sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[12:10] <mil3y> :'(
[12:10] <mil3y> help
[12:10] <ga_sk8er> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[12:10] <ga_sk8er> mount: mount point /mnt/floppy does not exist
[12:10] <dormeur[a]> ?
[12:10] <damo22> sudo mkdir -p /mnt/floppy
[12:10] <usr13_> Here's MY problem: recordmydesktop is making videos that run WAY too fast.  The video runs way ahead of the audio.  I'm thinking it may not be recordmydesktop's fault.  I also notice that when I dump some text with middle mouse button, it sometimes prints the text 3 or 4 times if I don't get off the button really fast, (in other words, just punch it really fast). Any ideas?
[12:10] <damo22> then run the first command
[12:10]  * dormeur[a] музяка долбит
[12:10] <mil3y> ga_sk8er, pm ?
[12:11] <vlt> !ru | dormeur[a]
[12:11] <ga_sk8er> mil3y what u asking
[12:11] <mil3y> pm ??
[12:11] <mil3y> need help
[12:11] <Pici> !ask
[12:11] <auronandace> mil3y: what do you need help with?
[12:11] <mil3y> bro need help, im trying to install ubuntu from win 7 - using wubi installer,, after installation - when i try 2 start - its giving error "no root file system is defined" in ubuntu 11.04..
[12:11] <mil3y> dunno what to do ??
[12:11] <mil3y> ..
[12:11] <mil3y> ..
[12:11] <mil3y> ..
[12:11] <FloodBot1> mil3y: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:11] <usr13_> This may even be a hardware problem of some sort.  But everything else seems ok, so not sure.
[12:11] <ga_sk8er> what does pm mean...are u asking me the tiem of day here?
[12:12] <mil3y> :P
[12:12] <dormeur[a]> rm -rf /
[12:12] <auronandace> ga_sk8er: pm means private message
[12:12] <dormeur[a]> ;)
[12:12] <ga_sk8er> oh
[12:12] <ga_sk8er> ok
[12:12] <usr13_> I would just like to figure out how to make recordmydesktop slow down the video.  (It runs super fast.)
[12:12] <ga_sk8er> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[12:12] <ga_sk8er> mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[12:12] <mil3y> auronandace, thats the issue
[12:13] <auronandace> mil3y: i don't use wubi and never recomend it
[12:13] <mil3y> then how to install ubuntu from win
[12:13] <damo22> ga_sk8er: check that the tab on the floppy isnt set to read only... that special sliding thingy on the actual floppy disk
[12:13] <auronandace> mil3y: can't you use a livecd or usb?
[12:14] <mil3y> but it will overtake win boot loader
[12:14] <auronandace> mil3y: another option is to install it in virtualbox
[12:14] <mil3y> no virtual box
[12:14] <mil3y> i can but i don't want
[12:14] <mil3y> already im running 3 os virtually
[12:14] <ga_sk8er> i still get the same message
[12:15] <damo22> ga_sk8er: you need to unmount and remount
[12:15] <mil3y> auronandace, pls help witn win installer
[12:15] <mil3y> with*
[12:15] <auronandace> mil3y: no, i don't use wubi
[12:15] <mil3y> ohh then who can help here
[12:15] <ga_sk8er> my bad...now i dont get a message in terminal but when i click to read the disck it says unable to mount location
[12:15] <mil3y> i don't find any solution in ubuntu forums too
[12:15] <mil3y> :'(
[12:15] <popey> usr13_: thats been a problem for some time
[12:16] <damo22> ga_sk8er: what are you trying to do? read an important file on a floppy?
[12:16] <popey> usr13_: I use this method now http://lwn.net/Articles/452233/ - recordmydesktop is broken
[12:16] <zamba> the nouveau-driver is the linux kernel's attempt at a nvidia driver?
[12:16] <RunRoad> Hola
[12:16] <ga_sk8er> damo22 i want to copy an important file to a floppy. has to be floppy for the mobo to read it
[12:16] <auronandace> !noveau
[12:17] <mil3y> auronandace, say something mate
[12:17] <auronandace> !nouveau | zamba
[12:17] <damo22> ga_sk8er: do you need the disk to be readable by dos/windows?
[12:17] <ga_sk8er> no not really
[12:17] <ga_sk8er> oh yes
[12:17] <ga_sk8er> my mistake
[12:17] <auronandace> mil3y: why don't you want to install it normally?
[12:17] <damo22> ga_sk8er: you need to install mtools
[12:18] <mil3y> because it will over take windows boot loader
[12:18] <ga_sk8er> im copying a raid driver over so i can load windows. without it windows dont see the hard drive
[12:18] <lewis93> I have a linux driver for my WLAN card. Could someone run me through how to install it?
[12:18] <mil3y> and i want win boot loader
[12:18] <ga_sk8er> damo how do i do the
[12:18] <damo22> ga_sk8er: sudo apt-get install mtools
[12:18] <auronandace> mil3y: grub can boot into windows too you know?
[12:18] <ga_sk8er> E: Invalid operation mtools
[12:19] <mil3y> yes but it will flash ubuntu boot loader initial
[12:19] <ga_sk8er> oh nevermind i made mistake
[12:19] <lewis93> I have googled methods but they are all too complicated and I get stuck.
[12:19] <lewis93> It is a driver for my realtek wlan card.
[12:19] <auronandace> mil3y: you can change which one gets booted by default
[12:19] <ga_sk8er> ok i got it
[12:19] <damo22> ga_sk8er: you need to unmount the disk
[12:19] <lewis93> I have the file, I just don't know how to get it going.
[12:20] <damo22> ga_sk8er: sudo umount /mnt/floppy
[12:20] <lewis93> It isn't like Windows where you just double click things and it installs.
[12:20] <mil3y> auronandace, check ur pm
[12:21] <ga_sk8er> u sure its not /mnt/dev/fd0
[12:21] <sattu94> lewis93: what is the file name ?
[12:21] <ga_sk8er> ddy@eddy-desktop:~$ sudo umount .mnt.floppy
[12:21] <ga_sk8er> umount: .mnt.floppy: not found
[12:21] <ikonia> ga_sk8er: if you don't listen to what people say - you will be removed fro mthe channel;
[12:22] <ikonia> ga_sk8er: you have been told enough times to pay attention, stop wasting peopels times and start READING what is given to you
[12:22] <ga_sk8er> i asked cause i got the error message i just posted. sorry
[12:22] <alexleon_> :( i need help i installed ubuntu 64 bit on my Satellite L755-S5258 and my wi fi doesnt work :(
[12:22] <ikonia> ga_sk8er: you typed it wrong - again - .mnt = no, /mnt = yes
[12:22] <lewis93> sattu94, rtl8192e_linux_2.6.0015.1013.2010.tar.gz
[12:23] <damo22> ga_sk8er: sudo umount /mnt/floppy
[12:23] <ga_sk8er> sudo umount /mnt/floppy
[12:23] <ga_sk8er> umount: /mnt/floppy: not mounted
[12:23] <damo22> good
[12:23] <damo22> ga_sk8er: lets double check the mtools configuration
[12:24] <alexleon_> installed ubuntu 64 bit on my Satellite L755-S5258 and my wi fi doesnt work -.-
[12:24] <sattu94> lewis93: it's a .tar.gz, so it's probably a precompiled binary. u will have to untar(extract) it.
[12:24] <damo22> ga_sk8er: cat /etc/mtools.conf and tell me the line that relates to a:
[12:24] <lewis93> sattu94, done
[12:25] <lewis93> now what?
[12:25] <sattu94> lewis93: good, so whats in the untarred folder ?
[12:25] <ga_sk8er> # # Linux floppy drives
[12:25] <ga_sk8er> drive a: file="/dev/fd0" exclusive
[12:26] <damo22> ga_sk8er: excellent.. now do this: mformat a:
[12:26] <lewis93> sattu94, four folders; firmware, HAL, realtek and rtllib. Then Makefile, readme.txt, release_note, runwpa, wpa1.conf and wpa_supplicant-0.6.9.tar.gz
[12:26] <sattu94> read readme.txt and see if you can figure out how to get it done ?
[12:26] <alexleon_> installed ubuntu 64 bit on my Satellite L755-S5258 and my wi fi doesnt work
[12:26] <hub> Hi
[12:27] <ga_sk8er> mformat: Can't open /dev/fd0: Permission denied
[12:27] <Tim55> how to paste text in the terminal using the keys ctrl + v ?
[12:27] <damo22> ga_sk8er: okay, try sudo mformat a:
[12:27] <sattu94> lewis93: if it says something like build instructions etc. u might have to build the driver from source.
[12:27] <Pici> Tim55: use ctrl-shift-v
[12:27] <hub> Java doesn't work for Firefox, I've installed sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib , any idea please ?
[12:27] <OerHeks> Tim55, paste with middle mouse wheel
[12:27] <lewis93> sattu94, how do I do that?
[12:27] <Tim55> pici i want it to be ctrl + v
[12:27] <sattu94> lewis93: later, just read.
[12:28] <Pici> Tim55: ctrl-v is reserved.
[12:28] <sattu94> lewis93: see what it says,
[12:28] <Tim55> for what
[12:28] <ga_sk8er> plain_io: Input/output error
[12:28] <ga_sk8er> mformat: Error reading from '/dev/fd0', wrong parameters?
[12:28] <Tim55> nobody gave me a choice i want it to be changed
[12:28] <effervescence> Does anyone have arista transcoder?
[12:28] <damo22> ga_sk8er: is it chugging the disk and making noise when you do it?
[12:28] <alexleon_> installed ubuntu 64 bit on my Satellite L755-S5258 and my wi fi doesnt work and additional drivers says no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[12:28] <lewis93> sattu94, it says to change to super user with "sudo su" and then enter "make" then "make install". When I do that, the terminal says: "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[12:28] <ga_sk8er> yes it is
[12:28] <Pici> Tim55: ctrl+KEY are all reserved for your terminal to use.
[12:29] <damo22> ga_sk8er: sounds like a faulty disk
[12:29] <ga_sk8er> 2 faulty discs?
[12:29] <Tim55> pici i'm not stopping it from using it. i want to use it too
[12:29] <ChessTeach> let me ask you guys something, I am setting up exim4 and it wants the 'mail name', this is the name of my computer right, not nessisarily the name of the domain name?
[12:29] <sattu94> lewis93: just a sec. i'll try getiing that file myself.
[12:29] <damo22> ga_sk8er: got another one to try?
[12:29] <ga_sk8er> let me look
[12:29] <sattu94> lewis93: also when u run make u need to be in the untarred folder.
[12:30] <hub> Hi, I've got a problem with JAVA and FIREFOX, any idea, please ?
[12:30] <Pici> Tim55: I don't know what to tell you, thats just the way things work.
[12:30] <auronandace> hub: not really, based on the information you provided
[12:30] <hub> auronandace, : I did sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib
[12:31] <tekk> how the hell am i meant to pull a SAS connector out.... its so stiff
[12:31] <ga_sk8er> i knowi  got some more in the mini warehouses whenever i can get over to them
[12:31] <hub> auronandace, : and if I do java -version, I've got version java version "1.6.0_20"
[12:31] <ga_sk8er> none here
[12:31] <damo22> ga_sk8er: what happened to the first one
[12:32] <ga_sk8er> disk?
[12:32] <sattu94> lewis93: right so cd /path/to/driver/folder/
[12:32] <hub> auronandace : and I did the sym link from /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/libjava.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins , but itstill doesn't wrok :s
[12:32] <damo22> ga_sk8er: try putting in the first one and doing sudo mformat a:
[12:32] <ga_sk8er> i tried every command to both discs
[12:32] <lewis93> sattu94, Downloads or in the actual extracted folder?
[12:32] <auronandace> hub: i don't think you should simlink it
[12:32] <ga_sk8er> got same reaction to both discs
[12:32] <sattu94> lewis93: in the actual extracted folder.
[12:33] <damo22> oh wait there might be a switch to apply to mformat
[12:33] <hub> auronandace : I've seen many info on google, but I'm lost now :s
[12:33] <lewis93> sattu94, done
[12:34] <auronandace> hub: i don't really use java, but i think you just need to install the plugin
[12:34] <hub> auronandace : someone told me to install icedtea-plugin icedtead-netx, but I dont't find it :s
[12:34] <auronandace> hub: maybe there is a mozilla java plugin in the repos
[12:35] <ga_sk8er> damo22. thanks for the help anyways
[12:35] <damo22> ga_sk8er: okay, is this a 3 1/2" HD disk?
[12:35] <auronandace> !find icedtea | hub
[12:35] <Pici> hub: What release of Ubuntu are you using?
[12:35] <alexleon_> i think the reason that my wifi doesnt work is cause my fn key conbination doesnt work :/ does anyone know how to fix it?
[12:36] <alexleon_> ?
[12:36] <hub> Pici : 10.10
[12:36] <sattu94> lewis93: now do ls
[12:36] <sattu94> lewis93: do you see all the files and folders ?
[12:36] <ga_sk8er> no damo...3 1/2 floppy
[12:37] <sattu94> lewis93: the ones that u mentioned earlier ?
[12:37] <baha> I want to access another ubuntu laptop on the same network from my laptop, how can I do it?
[12:37] <damo22> ga_sk8er: sudo mformat a: -f 1440
[12:37] <alexleon_> is there any expert here? -.-
[12:37] <lewis93> sattu94, yes
[12:37] <Pici> hub: The package name on 10.10 should be icedtea6-plugin
[12:37] <ga_sk8er> i need to load a raid driver to floppy disk so i can make windows find it when im loading windows to the hard drive
[12:37] <sattu94> lewis93: good now follow instructions from the readme file.
[12:38] <lewis93> sattu94, it is working! Thank you so much for your help and for your patience with me. :)
[12:38] <damo22> ga_sk8er: see above command
[12:38] <ga_sk8er> plain_io: Input/output error
[12:38] <ga_sk8er> mformat: Error reading from '/dev/fd0', wrong parameters?
[12:38] <ga_sk8er> i tried the command & got those results
[12:38] <sattu94> lewis93: so did u run make ?
[12:38] <alexleon_> i  hate u all imtry by myself
[12:39] <sattu94> alexleon_: hat happeed ?
[12:39] <damo22> ga_sk8er: ls /dev/fd* and tell me in pvt message the whole output
[12:39] <sattu94> alexleon_: so try doing ifconfig in a terminal.
[12:39] <alexleon_> sattu94 my fncombinationkeys dont work nd i have been ignored so long
[12:40] <hub> Pici, auronandace, ubottu : thank you, it works ! great !
[12:40] <Pici> hub: you're welcome
[12:40] <auronandace> hub: no worries :)
[12:40] <alexleon_> sattu94 i did
[12:40] <sattu94> alexleon_: yea, IRC can be slow sometimes, also you have 11.04 right ?
[12:40] <baha> when networking two ubuntu laptop should I use "windows network"? what else should I do?
[12:41] <hub> bye all
[12:41] <alexleon_> sattu94 yes ijust installed ubuntu
[12:41] <sattu94> alexleon_: so is there any interface listed as wlan0~ ? in ifconfig output ?
[12:41] <ga_sk8er> damo22 i messaged u the results
[12:42] <alexleon_> can i paste all the text here?
[12:42] <damo22> ga_sk8er: i have an idea
[12:42] <ga_sk8er> ok
[12:42] <sattu94> alexleon_: no. do pastebin, or the likes
[12:42] <sattu94> alexleon_: paste.ubuntu.com
[12:43] <damo22> ga_sk8er: be careful to copy this exactly ..... sudo fdformat /dev/fd0H1440; sudo mformat a:
[12:44] <alexleon_> sattu94 http://pastebin.com/mNQufjGp
[12:45] <ga_sk8er> sudo fdformat /dev/fd0H1440; sudo mformat a:
[12:45] <ga_sk8er> /dev/fd0H1440: No such file or directory
[12:45] <ga_sk8er> plain_io: Input/output error
[12:45] <ga_sk8er> mformat: Error reading from '/dev/fd0', wrong parameters
[12:45] <alexleon_> maybe my laptop isnot compatible with ubuntu :(
[12:45] <sattu94> alexleon_: try searching for additional drivers via the dash..
[12:46] <damo22> ga_sk8er: my bad its a u not a H....  sudo fdformat /dev/fd0u1440; sudo mformat a:
[12:46] <sattu94> alexleon_: you will find an application. called Additional Drivers. Run it to check if you need any.
[12:46] <alexleon_> sattu94 i didnt and it saystheres no aditionaldrivers
[12:46] <ga_sk8er> formatting disc
[12:47] <damo22> YAY
[12:47] <ga_sk8er> lol
[12:47] <damo22> ga_sk8er: it might still fail... if the disc is faulty
[12:47] <alexleon_> no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[12:47] <baha> how can I know my ip on the local network?
[12:47] <baha> ?
[12:48] <ga_sk8er> Double-sided, 80 tracks, 18 sec/track. Total capacity 1440 kB.
[12:48] <ga_sk8er> Formatting ... done
[12:48] <ga_sk8er> Verifying ... Read: : Input/output error
[12:48] <ga_sk8er> Problem reading cylinder 0, expected 18432, read -1
[12:48] <ga_sk8er> plain_io: Input/output error
[12:48] <ga_sk8er> mformat: Error reading from '/dev/fd0', wrong parameters?
[12:48] <FloodBot1> ga_sk8er: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:48] <ga_sk8er> sorry
[12:48] <compdoc> baha, ifconfig is one way
[12:48]  * wh1zz0 wants to have a feel of ubuntu 11.10
[12:48] <wh1zz0> :)
[12:48] <damo22> ga_sk8er: then you need to try the other disc
[12:48] <ga_sk8er> ill try the 2nd disc now
[12:48] <[THC]AcidRain> does sun-java6-jdk come installed by default in ubuntu 11? i cant seem to find the package name
[12:49] <baha> compdoc, it gives me the interfaces but does it give my ip?
[12:50] <ga_sk8er> damo private message
[12:50] <ga_sk8er> same as other disc
[12:50] <alexleon_> maybe i should try installing ubuntu 32 bit
[12:50] <damo22> ga_sk8er: okay it might be mtools.conf needs to be set to /dev/fd0u1440 instead of /dev/fd0
[12:51] <ga_sk8er> how do i  do that
[12:51] <compdoc> baha, it does on every system Ive used it on. are you using wireless?
[12:51] <MuNk`> Is it possible to limit the size of status text in the unity panel/bar, as it keeps pushing my icons off screen
[12:51] <damo22> ga_sk8er: gksudo gedit /etc/mtools.conf
[12:51] <baha> compdoc, yes I'm using wireless
[12:51] <sattu94> alexleon_: try to manually search for drivers. You might find them.
[12:52] <sattu94> alexleon_: on the internet that is.
[12:52] <ga_sk8er> ok
[12:52] <compdoc> baha, sorry, I dont use wireless, so Im not sure. Have you opened the network manager?
[12:52] <damo22> ga_sk8er: then change the line you told me before about a: to /dev/fd0u1440 instead of /dev/fd0
[12:52] <alexleon_> sattu94 with update manager? ye it found manny  nd i installed all
[12:53] <damo22> ga_sk8er: then save and quit
[12:53] <aar> Hi, is there any linux command specifically designed to count the number of files in a directory? (Something that doesn't involve a pipe?)
[12:53] <ga_sk8er> ok
[12:53] <alexleon_> sattu94 oh ill check it out
[12:53] <sattu94> alexleon_: no, not update manager,
[12:53] <storrgie> Please help me! http://askubuntu.com/questions/57612/dell-m6600-amd-firepro-m8900-graphics-driver-and-power-issues
[12:53] <ga_sk8er> so i just added "u1440" to the end of that line
[12:53] <damo22> ga_sk8er: now try to format the disc again .   yes
[12:53] <sattu94> alexleon_: you will have to manually check/search the internet.
[12:53] <chille> hey guys! i have some trouble with my webcam in skype. /dev/video0 is used, and if skype opens the device the video works, but no sound. if i let pulseaudio open the device i get sound but no video. is there any way to make it possible to open the device by two different applications?
[12:53] <fosburg> how do I access my Ubuntu One folders from another computer
[12:54] <alexleon_> sattu94 im on it
[12:54] <baha> compdoc, what I couldn't figure out in thing from the manager
[12:54] <sattu94> alexleon_: try this site.
[12:54] <sattu94> http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showcat.php/cat/529
[12:55] <sattu94> alexleon_: it has the hardware compatibility list for laptops in the toshiba section.
[12:55] <ga_sk8er> same problem as before...do i gotta repost again?
[12:56] <damo22> ga_sk8er: need a new floppy disk then
[12:56] <ga_sk8er> ok thanks 4 the help anyways
[12:56] <damo22> ga_sk8er: it would be easier to format on a windows box and then use mcopy to copy the files on
[12:57] <ga_sk8er> if i had a usb floppy drive i could use someone elses to send the file over i need to put to the disc. i h ave the file on my thumb drive
[12:58] <damo22> ga_sk8er: sudo mcopy /path/to/myfile a:
[12:58] <ga_sk8er> usb floppy drive...windows is easier than linux lol
[12:58] <alexleon_> sattu94 mine is not there:( its like anyone has tried to install ubuntu on this laptop yet o.O
[12:59] <fosburg> what do I do to access UbuntuOne from another computer?
[12:59] <damo22> ga_sk8er: maybe the disk is formatted and just threw an error
[12:59] <ikonia> fosburg: I thought it was only for Ubuntu machines to connect to
[12:59] <sattu94> fosburg: you can go to one.ubuntu.com to view your files..and download them.
[13:00] <fosburg> I don't know--it says any computer
[13:00] <ga_sk8er> maybe
[13:00] <damo22> ga_sk8er: do you know the path to your file
[13:00] <ga_sk8er> u mean to the floppy?
[13:00] <fosburg> ok on the one.ubuntu.com--thanks
[13:00] <ga_sk8er> dev/ fd0
[13:00] <damo22> ga_sk8er: no the file you want to put on the flopp
[13:00] <damo22> where is it
[13:01] <ga_sk8er> oh not the path wrote out but iknow the folder its in & that its only file in the folder
[13:02] <ga_sk8er> dell gives its files weird names thats just letters & numbers jumbled together
[13:02] <damo22> ga_sk8er: copy the file to your desktop and tell me its name
[13:04] <ga_sk8er> R126083.EXE
[13:04] <mata> how to join another chanel
[13:04] <Myrtti> mata: /join #channel
[13:04] <damo22> ga_sk8er: thats no good you need to extract that out first
[13:05] <ga_sk8er> why?
[13:05] <ga_sk8er> i need it for windows
[13:05] <damo22> ga_sk8er: it is an installer for the floppy
[13:05] <ga_sk8er> its not for the floppy
[13:06] <damo22> ga_sk8er: it creates the floppy with the files you need for the sata drivers
[13:06] <damo22> ga_sk8er: but it runs on windows
[13:06] <ga_sk8er> its a raid driver for the hard drive. it has to go to the floppy. i load windows from the cd. press a button to load a raid installer then i have to have a floppy in with the raid on it which is why i need to get my floppy working so i can put the file to it
[13:07] <damo22> ga_sk8er: I know, but its not the file you need to put on the floppy, you have to INSTALL that exe first to a floppy
[13:07] <tXt> ne
[13:08] <damo22> ga_sk8er: believe me i have done this many times
[13:08] <ga_sk8er> but if i dont got a working floppy i cant do that....see what my problem is?
[13:08] <alexleon_> do i need any driver to get a hdmi cable working with video nd sound?
[13:08] <tXt> quit
[13:08] <JoeR1> I am astonished that someone still has, and uses, a floppy drive
[13:08] <damo22> ga_sk8er: okay try this: sudo mdir a:
[13:09] <damo22> JoeR1: windows still requires it, for some sata raid installs
[13:09] <ga_sk8er> Cannot initialize 'A:'
[13:10] <^Alita> hi to all. i'm in trouble with samba: i've added an user with smbpasswd, after a restart of the daemon it works, but after a pc restart it loses the user and i've to readd the user. how can i fix it?
[13:10] <damo22> ga_sk8er: you cant do much until you get a working floppy disk
[13:10] <ga_sk8er> ok
[13:10] <ga_sk8er> thanks for ur help though
[13:10] <ga_sk8er> greatly appreciated
[13:11] <JoeR1> alexleon_, When I did it I didn't need any extra  drivers but I had to work with configuring option in alsamixer I think
[13:11] <damo22> ga_sk8er: one thing you should try is to uncompress the exe file using zip
[13:11] <ga_sk8er> damo...no zip drive
[13:11] <damo22> ga_sk8er: no... dude, zip command
[13:11] <ga_sk8er> oh
[13:12] <alexleon_> joe R1 i ll try thx
[13:12] <damo22> ga_sk8er: cd `
[13:12] <damo22> ga_sk8er: cd ~
[13:12] <ga_sk8er> i can run my thumb drive in windows to open the program
[13:12] <EEMPHASISS> Hi, I want to run an automatic script on user login to do one command, but not have the user run a terminal & sudo.  I recall doing this with SCO-UNIX: something like setting a super user bit on the command file.  (Also the user will not be allowed to edit this.)
[13:13] <ga_sk8er> my main issue is floppy not working
[13:13] <coz_> ga_sk8er,   out of curiosity,, do you need the floppy?
[13:14] <damo22> ga_sk8er: cd ~/Desktop; zip x R126083.EXE
[13:14] <ga_sk8er> yes. it says to insert disk in drive A:
[13:14] <coz_> ga_sk8er,  ah ok
[13:14] <froes> i guys... i have been trying to install VLC with no luck. any ideas what can it be?   http://pastebin.com/hgeiA0Zr
[13:15] <^Alita> i'm in trouble with samba: i've added an user with smbpasswd, after a restart of the daemon it works, but after a pc restart it loses the user and i've to readd the user. how can i fix it?
[13:15] <ikonia> froes: do you have any external repos or PPA's enabled ?
[13:15] <damo22> coz_ he needs to install a sata raid driver for a native windows install
[13:15] <ga_sk8er> i need better floppy to solve my problem so im gonna go for now
[13:15] <ga_sk8er> thanx anyways remo
[13:15] <coz_> damo22,   ah ok that expains it ,, thanks,, I can butt out now :)
[13:15] <ga_sk8er> *damo
[13:15] <ga_sk8er> sorry. i went all night without sleep to try to fix this
[13:16] <damo22> ga_sk8er: which version of windows?
[13:16] <ga_sk8er> xp. its the version this pc is made for
[13:17] <damo22> yeah the only way to get the driver into the install is to slip stream it in or use a floppy
[13:17] <froes> ikonia, let me check
[13:17] <ga_sk8er> i dont like vista anyways & a disc of windows 7 is too expensive
[13:17] <mtrd`> Hello, i can't receive files with pidgin, i read it's a port configuration issue, don't know which to open ?
[13:17] <damo22> ga_sk8er: why do you need windows again?
[13:17] <ga_sk8er> mtrd. u might have a firewall turned on
[13:18] <damo22> ga_sk8er: can't you install linux onto it instead?
[13:18] <ga_sk8er> damo. alot of programs i do are windows only
[13:18] <ga_sk8er> i plan on doing a dual boot
[13:18] <mtrd`> ga_sk8er, no way, running xubuntu and i've never did that
[13:18] <BubonicPestilenc> Hey guys, help me find song please :) I remember that name of singer may include "elvis"; music video was: people dancing inside yellow rooms in big shelve; release date 2000-2005
[13:18] <damo22> ga_sk8er: you can install a virtual machine running xp
[13:18] <bazhang> !ot | BubonicPestilenc
[13:19] <ga_sk8er> but i want to install my programs. games & things that save to the pc
[13:19] <damo22> ga_sk8er: boot into linux, then start the virtual machine... okay games wont work too well in virtualbox
[13:19] <froes> ikonia, it has Canonical partners and Independant selected on other software tab
[13:19] <ga_sk8er> in linux my webcam dont work but it does in windows
[13:20] <damo22> ga_sk8er: but you can attach the usb cam to the virtual machine
[13:20] <EEMPHASISS> Anyone got a solution for running a script as super-user, but not sudo'ing?  (e.g. some special permission on the file?)
[13:20] <froes> ikonia, do i need to have anything selected?
[13:20] <ga_sk8er> its a 400 GB hardr drive . its big enoguh for both windows & linux
[13:21] <ga_sk8er> i need windows for my illegal stuff i do lol
[13:21] <damo22> ga_sk8er: i didnt hear that
[13:21] <Pici> froes: Can you pastebin the output of apt-cache policy vlc-nox
[13:21] <ga_sk8er> *yells into a bullhorn* lol
[13:22] <ga_sk8er> soem of the online games mess up alot on linux like java-based & adobe flash-based games
[13:22] <ga_sk8er> FARMVILLE lol
[13:22] <froes> Pici, http://pastebin.com/VCAGy61M
[13:23] <damo22> ga_sk8er: you should see vmware running windows xp, its smooth as
[13:23] <JoeR1> ga_sk8er, I agree, on average Linux sucks for gaming
[13:23] <ga_sk8er> i do games
[13:24] <ga_sk8er> i got some of the violent games for the pc...halo, halflife, doom, grand theft auto
[13:24] <ga_sk8er> i also do alot of online gaming
[13:24] <ga_sk8er> soi need my winders
[13:24] <Bry8Star> Hi , where can i download a LiveCD version of Ubuntu 11.04 via a torrent ?
[13:24] <JoeR1> ga_sk8er, Give me CIV or give me death
[13:24] <xangua> Bry8Star: ubuntu.com
[13:24] <bazhang> !torrents | Bry8Star
[13:25] <ga_sk8er> JoeRI whats CIV?
[13:25] <EEMPHASISS> ga_sk8er, damo22: use both VirtualBox & VMWare server on my Ubuntu laptop to run 2 or 3 XP's: development, test, connections - even Carmageddon
[13:25] <damo22> EEMPHASISS: yep i know its cool as
[13:25] <Bry8Star> thanks , bazhang
[13:25] <ga_sk8er> ive never fooled with virtualbox. neverh ad to. my hard drive has always been enough for me.
[13:26] <JoeR1> ga_sk8er, Civilization, possibly the greatest game series of all time
[13:26] <ga_sk8er> ok i know the game just never played it
[13:26] <damo22> EEMPHASISS: and you can attach a fake floppy image to the vm if you need to , so who cares about floppy drives and disks
[13:26] <damo22> :D
[13:26] <ga_sk8er> JoeR1 theres kinda a game like it on facebook
[13:26] <EEMPHASISS> Anyone know about super-user bit for lusers running a system command (i.e. on login)?
[13:26] <ga_sk8er> damo22 right now i care about them lol
[13:27] <JoeR1> ga_sk8er, blasphemer!!!! There is CIV and everything else
[13:27] <bazhang> !ot | JoeR1 ga_sk8er
[13:28] <JoeR1> pull the stick out bazhang
[13:28] <bazhang> JoeR1, pardon?
[13:28] <ga_sk8er> who shoved it in? lol kidding
[13:28] <Pici> froes: hmm... How about apt-cache policy libavcodec52
[13:28] <JoeR1> heaven forbid I be more clear on that statement without facing retribution but I'm sure you can figure it out
[13:28] <bazhang> ga_sk8er, did you have an actual support question?
[13:29] <Bry8Star> bazhang , is this link is ok ? : http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[13:29] <bazhang> Bry8Star, should be
[13:29] <Pici> JoeR1: This channel is already busy enough without all the random discussion, feel free to take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:29] <ga_sk8er> yes i was asking about a support question for about 3 or 4 hours & finally got a little bit of help from damo22
[13:30] <Bry8Star> that was from this page : http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/natty/desktopdownload/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt
[13:30] <damo22> a little?
[13:30] <damo22> :P
[13:30] <ga_sk8er> lol damo22...i got alot of help from u...better?
[13:30] <MuNk`> Is it possible to add/remove cron jobs one at a time instead of having to remove jobs nad reload all jobs each time you want to change one?
[13:30] <bazhang> Bry8Star, it works great here
[13:30] <TheEvilPhoenix> MuNk`:  yeah, by erasing the cron jobs  one-by-one.
[13:30] <TheEvilPhoenix> i think
[13:31] <bahax> I have an ssh connection to a laptop how can I copy files to my laptop?
[13:31] <Bry8Star> ... thanks
[13:31] <iceroot> bahax: scp
[13:31] <BluesKaj> BBL
[13:31] <iceroot> bahax: scp localfile user@laptop:/path/to/store/
[13:32] <ga_sk8er> its 9:30 so i think i might finally log off here lol
[13:32] <Pici> MuNk`: How are you adding/removing cron jobs now? It shouldn't be that much of a problem to add a new job.
[13:32] <osmosis_paul> Hi, one question, this is the correct way to connect to a remote terminal and use remote GUI's right? ssh -X user@domain.com ???
[13:32] <Duolos> I'm having a problem with Eclipse (#eclipse is barren) in ubuntu. For some reason, it seems to be missing fonts and displaying empty boxes in place of characters in most of my code. Any ideas?
[13:32] <ga_sk8er> THANKS A BILLION damo22
[13:32] <osmosis_paul> with i connect to one of my cluster amazon machine that is ubuntu works fine
[13:32] <damo22> np
[13:32] <osmosis_paul> but in another cluster server nope
[13:33] <MuNk`> pici, at the moment im basically clearling all jobs with -r and reloading in the changed file full of jobs
[13:33] <bahax> iceroot, this would copy from my laptop to the distant, right? I want the revers operation
[13:33] <iceroot> bahax: that will copy from your local machine to your laptop
[13:33] <Pici> MuNk`: Why not use crontab -e ?
[13:33] <iceroot> bahax: scp source target
[13:33] <MuNk`> because im using a script. kinda automation
[13:34] <iceroot> Duolos: using eclipse from the repos? or from the website?
[13:35] <bahax> iceroot, I'm inside a distant laptop using ssh in cli, I want to move a file from there to my machine (copy from distant to local using ssh)
[13:35] <Duolos> iceroot: The latest version from the website.  I suppose I could try the older, repoed version.
[13:36] <Pici> MuNk`: Well, if you don't mind running the script with root, you could put/remove files from /etc/cron.d/
[13:36] <jack> bahax: man scp
[13:36] <bahax> jack, you've got a point of view :)
[13:36] <jack> for sure
[13:36] <MuNk`> hmm
[13:36] <kyle_> Can i set a time for my ubuntu 11.04 to shutdown
[13:37] <escott> osmosis_paul, thats not using the remote gui, its using yours and just tunneling the drawing requests back, but it is "correct"
[13:38] <beli> MuNk`: copy/remove  a file for each job into the special folders daily, weekly or whatever you want it to be executed
[13:38] <escott> osmosis_paul, does it not work for things like "xclock" and does it give an error messages
[13:38] <jack> scp is what you want, promised
[13:39] <iceroot> Duolos: #eclipse, that version is not supported here
[13:39] <beli> kyle_:  man at
[13:39] <osmosis_paul> escott, actually yesterday when i try in my ubuntu machine of Amazon xclock i saw it in my computer
[13:39] <jack> escott, does you can speak proper english?
[13:40] <iceroot> bahax: scp file-on-the-machine-you-are-calling-scp user@remote-system:/path/to/copy/
[13:40] <Duolos> iceroot: yeah, I know it's not supported and #eclipse is barren.  Just thought I'd ask...assumed there'd be someone here using the new version.
[13:40] <osmosis_paul> escott, i think the problem is that i need to install some library x11, any idea?
[13:40] <kyle_> beli: like this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man8/shutdown.8.html
[13:40] <kyle_> beli: sudo shutdown -h 18:45 "Server is going down for maintenance"
[13:41] <beli> kyle_: ok you can specify a shutdown message and when it will go down and how often it will be repeated as a warning
[13:41] <kyle_> beli: but shutdown doesn't exist and is not on apt-get
[13:41] <Bry8Star> please also need a torrent of Ubuntu 11.04 i386 DVD disc Intel-AMD x86
[13:41] <bahax> iceroot, the problem is I want to do the following: scp file-on-the-machine-you-are-calling-scp user@localsystem:/path/to/copy/
[13:41] <bahax> iceroot, I want the file from the distant laptop to my laptop :(
[13:41] <escott> osmosis_paul, the machine you are sitting at must have an x server running on it. it "serves" screen space to the remote client (which is your ec2 cluster)
[13:42] <escott> osmosis_paul, so if you are running windows install mingx or some other windows xserver
[13:42] <froes> hi guys... i have been trying to install VLC with no luck. any ideas what can it be?   http://pastebin.com/hgeiA0Zr
[13:42] <froes> output of apt-cache policy    http://pastebin.com/VCAGy61M
[13:42] <osmosis_paul> escott, is ubuntu, do you know the name of that package???
[13:43] <escott> osmosis_paul, for *nix if you are in a gui you are running x
[13:43] <beli> kyle_: sudo apt-get install apt-file
[13:43] <d_atharva_> Hi...Where can I download Vm Ware ?
[13:43] <beli> kyle_: apt-file search shutdown
[13:43] <damo22> bahax: you need the external ip address of your "local" machine and port forward from your router to your "local" machine, then scp from the remote machine back to your "local" ?
[13:43] <osmosis_paul> escott, is a remote machine without gui]\
[13:43] <escott> d_atharva_, the vmware website
[13:43] <bazhang> d_atharva_, their website
[13:43] <Bry8Star> Hi , please also need a link of torrent file for downloading official Ubuntu 11.04 i386 DVD disc Intel-AMD x86
[13:43] <ikonia> Bry8Star: on ubuntu.com
[13:43] <osmosis_paul> escott, do you know the name of the package to install
[13:43] <xangua> Bry8Star: ubuntu.com
  : Can you please send me the link as I am unable to get it..
[13:44] <bazhang> d_atharva_, vmware.com
[13:44] <iceroot> bahax: i dont see the problem
[13:44] <iceroot> bahax: i told you what to do
[13:44] <escott> osmosis_paul, the point is client server get reversed pc --commands to ssh server--> ec2 --drawing commands to X server--> pc
[13:45] <damo22> iceroot: i think he wants to make incoming connection to his home pc from external
[13:45] <escott> osmosis_paul, so the local machine must be *nix running a gui, or windows + xming or apple + xwindows
[13:45] <osmosis_paul> escott, i know how works but i need install the X server in the remote machine
[13:45] <kyle_> beli: doing now
[13:45] <escott> osmosis_paul, you shouldn't the presense of the xclock binary should be sufficient
[13:45] <osmosis_paul> escott, local machine has gui of course
[13:47] <kyle_> beli: The cache directory is empty. You need to run 'apt-file update' first. << Have done..
[13:47] <Pici> kyle_: What release of Ubuntu are you running?
[13:48] <kyle_> pici: 11.04
[13:48] <Bry8Star> i'm not able to find a torrent in the ubuntu.com , of a 11.04 server dvd i386 x86 intel-amd ... can some1 give me a link please .. .thnaks
[13:49] <osmosis_paul> escott, then to can use remote GUI i need that my remote machine has a GUI installed?
[13:49] <Pici> kyle_: Then you should already have the shutdown command. It is part of upstart which is installed by default.
[13:49] <osmosis_paul> escott, because one of the ubuntu machine in my Amazon cluster i dont think that has GUI installed and transmit the xclock interface to my local machine
[13:50] <escott> osmosis_paul, no, no, no. and i dont think you are understanding how this works
[13:50] <kyle_> pici: i have done this now and it seems to be there. I'm sure that wasn't a moment ago
[13:50] <kyle_> pici: i'm losing it.
[13:51] <osmosis_paul> escott, no what? could you be in what i'm wrong please?
[13:51] <Pici> kyle_: heh, we all have those days ;)
[13:51] <osmosis_paul> escott, be a little more specific yi mean :-)
[13:51] <kyle_> pic: If you set a time how do you check it's status?
[13:52] <escott> osmosis_paul, to avoid remote/local client/server confusion. im going to call them "pc" and "ec2" you are sitting in front of "pc" and ssh -X username@ec2. you need to have a gui running on "pc" you do not need any kind of gui on "ec2"
[13:52] <kyle_> pici: If you set a time how do you check it's status?
[13:52] <damo22> kyle: "date" ?
[13:52] <osmosis_paul> escott, ok got it, already have that conf, continue please
[13:52] <Pici> kyle_: Thats a good question.
[13:53] <escott> osmosis_paul, if /usr/bin/xclock exists on ec2 then you can run /usr/bin/xclock and it should appear on the display of "pc"
[13:53] <Bry8Star> can someone please give me a link ... i'm not able to find a torrent file from the ubuntu.com website , i'm looking for this 11.04 server DVD disc i386 x86 intel-amd iso torrent ... can some1 give me a link please .. .thanks  ... found other torrents though (server CD , livecd/desktop CD, etc)
[13:53] <kyle_> pici: really or are you just playing wih me.?
[13:53] <Pici> kyle_: Really, I don't know the answer and it is a good question.
[13:53] <escott> !torrent | Bry8Star maybe this will have a link. otherwise it is under alternate download methods
[13:54] <damo22> kyle_: what do you mean by set a time
[13:54] <Pici> !torrents | Bry8Star escott
[13:54] <osmosis_paul> escott, with ec2 happend, show me the xclock in my "pc" but with the other machine in the other cluster "tilaa" that is ubuntu as well, tell me "Error: Can't open display: "
[13:54] <Pici> Bry8Star: iirc there is no server DVD though.
[13:54] <kyle_> s
[13:55] <Bry8Star> i also think there is no torrent for the server DVD disc
[13:55] <escott> osmosis_paul, ok sounds like $DISPLAY is not set. in your ssh username@ec2 window type "echo $DISPLAY" it should say ":10"
[13:55] <kyle_> damo22: using shutdown to scedule a shutdown
[13:55] <Bry8Star> so i will have to use IDM or FDM to download the ISO image , i guess ?
[13:55] <kyle_> How do you check it's running etc..
[13:56] <osmosis_paul> escott, yes in ec2 give me this "localhost:10.0
[13:56] <osmosis_paul> " and in the tilaa machine empty
[13:57] <escott> osmosis_paul, "grep X11 /etc/ssh/sshd_config" on the ec2 machine
[13:58] <escott> osmosis_paul, an empty $DISPLAY on tilaa is wrong wrong wrong. are you running a gui on tilaa
[13:58] <osmosis_paul> i already check sshd_config the parameter looks acept x11
[13:58] <osmosis_paul> escott, i dont think so, is a cluster machine should only has terminal
[13:59] <escott> osmosis_paul, you need to be running a gui on the machine you are sitting in front of.
[13:59] <osmosis_paul> yes
[13:59] <osmosis_paul> escott, i understand that, tilaa is not my pc is another cluster server
[14:00] <osmosis_paul> escott, when i said cluster server i mean external server
[14:00] <osmosis_paul> escott, without any kind of gui
[14:00] <osmosis_paul> escott, ec2 give me this
[14:00] <escott> osmosis_paul, are you bouncing through multiple ssh sessions to get to ec2? (pc --> tilaa -> ec2)
 osmosis_paul, you need to be running a gui on the machine you are sitting in fr
[14:01] <osmosis_paul> escott, ec2 is just an example that machine that works
[14:01] <osmosis_paul> escott, i need make it work in tilaa now
[14:01] <escott> osmosis_paul, you can't ssh -X from a console only system and expect it to work. there is nowhere to draw the picture on tilaa
[14:02] <osmosis_paul> escott, PC->Tilaa, pc always has gui
[14:02] <escott> osmosis_paul, whatever machine is physically connected to the display must be running Xorg
[14:02] <osmosis_paul> escott, it is correct do this then???
[14:02] <osmosis_paul> sudo aptitude install xorg
[14:02] <osmosis_paul> [3:53:54 PM CEST] booster_apetenko: sudo aptitude install gdm
[14:02] <osmosis_paul> [3:54:26 PM CEST] booster_apetenko: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:03] <escott> osmosis_paul, it should be
[14:03] <osmosis_paul> escott, ok thanks
[14:03] <bahax> iceroot, when I made what you're suggesting it tried to connect to my local machine (witch has no server installed), but I have a connection in the first place, I'll try the graphical way
[14:05] <Bry8Star> ... found torrent of DVD disc Ubuntu 11.04 x86 i386 Intel-AMD , here : http://mirror.eftel.com/ubuntu-dvd/11.04/release/
[14:06] <escott> Bry8Star, be sure to check md5sums of what you get out of that
[14:07] <Bry8Star> ... thanks escott  , i sure do that
[14:07] <escott> Bry8Star, really you should be checking sha1sums
[14:07] <osmosis_paul> escott, nahh that's wierd man, still does not working, even after install xorg
[14:07] <escott> osmosis_paul, did you startx?
[14:08] <escott> osmosis_paul, the windows you run ssh -X out of should be an xterm or gnome-terminal, and you should be able to drag it around. if you can't its not going to work
[14:08] <bahax> iceroot, when I made what you're suggesting it tried to connect to my local machine (witch has no se
[14:08] <osmosis_paul> escott, the only machine that i'm touching is the no gui machine(remote)
[14:08] <osmosis_paul> escott, my pc is ok
[14:08] <davix> why can't i access this package? http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/libmysqlclient15off and how can I get a download link for it if I cant access it?
[14:09] <Bry8Star> ... escott , in ubuntu.com website which page is showing the MD5 / sha1 hashes ?
[14:11] <escott> osmosis_paul, i dont know how i can say this any differently, so sorry this is condescending but -- put your hands on your monitor, follow the cable out the back of the monitor to a computer (if you hit a wall you picked the wrong cable), you have to be running X on THAT machine
[14:11] <aurora> hi
[14:11] <escott> !md5sums | Bry8Star
[14:12] <bahax> iceroot, I installed openssh-server on the local computer and went to the distant, then used scp and it worked as you said, thanks
[14:12] <escott> Bry8Star, md5 can be collided at will so really you want to be using sha1
[14:12] <iceroot> bahax: great
[14:13] <osmosis_paul> escott, thanks for your help, the comunication i thinks is not going very well, so dont want waste more your time and my time. Just only for try to tell you by last time. My PC is an ubuntu with Gnome that is connecting to Tilaa, that is a machine without GUI
[14:14] <xaojan> when i using gedit to edit sth,it will print "sys:1: Warning: g_object_ref: assertion `object->ref_count > 0' failed" in the command,what's going?THX
[14:14] <osmosis_paul> escott, and i want that this Tilaa machine send me a remote GUI to be visible in my PC that already has a Gnome :-)
[14:14] <Bry8Star> ... THANKS again , escott .. then i will definitely check SHA1 , and MD5 , both
[14:14] <escott> osmosis_paul, so if you don't have a DISPLAY on tilaa thats a problem. if you dont have X11Forwarding = yes in sshd_config on tilaa thats a problem
[14:15] <MaK10> hey every1
[14:15] <escott> osmosis_paul, you shouldn't need to touch anything else on tilaa
[14:16] <osmosis_paul> escott, X11Forwarding in tilaa is "yes" but echo DISPLAY dont show me nothing
[14:16] <MaK10> hey has any got crossover games running CSS?
[14:16] <iceroot> !appdb | MaK10
[14:17] <Cat-Meow> I'm having issues connecting to web pages that end with .aspx or .asp
[14:17] <escott> osmosis_paul, is xauth installed on tilaa `which xauth` should say /usr/bin/xauth
[14:17] <Cat-Meow> can someone help?
[14:17] <osmosis_paul> yes
[14:18] <osmosis_paul> escott, it is installed
[14:18] <escott> osmosis_paul, and was it installed when you started your ssh session?
[14:18] <cire_> where can i find the sound driver information for my computer my sound is not working
[14:18] <compdoc> Cat-Meow, have an example url?
[14:18] <osmosis_paul> escott, i dont know
[14:18] <Cat-Meow> https://access.pensacolastate.edu/student.asp
[14:18] <escott> osmosis_paul, then start a new ssh -X session
[14:18] <osmosis_paul> escott, but i already close the terminal an open again of hat machine
[14:19] <osmosis_paul> escott, now!!!
[14:20] <cire_> help pls.
[14:20] <escott> osmosis_paul, xauth will be included with xbase-clients which you can install instead of xorg-server
[14:20] <osmosis_paul> escott, good to know for the next time
[14:21] <osmosis_paul> escott, thanks for your time
[14:21] <Cat-Meow> cire_, here you go http://help.com/
[14:22] <ikonia> Cat-Meow: why did you give someone that link - that's nothing to do with his problem
[14:22] <m_fulder> hello
[14:23] <m_fulder> I asked this some months ago, saved the links for the future but then my HDD died so I need the same help once again :P .. on a new 64bit ubuntu installation I can't run binary files.. there's some library I need to install and then it works just fine. Anyone know what the name of theos libraries are? (A)
[14:23] <escott> osmosis_paul, no problem just try and be more clear about what system is what next time. you kept saying tilaa and i thought that was your pc
[14:23] <Cat-Meow> ikonia, he asked for help
[14:23] <Cat-Meow> it was a joke, sheesh
[14:23] <ikonia> Cat-Meow: that link is nothing to do with his issue, please don't issue bad advice to people
[14:23] <Cat-Meow> it was just a link....
[14:23] <Cat-Meow> 9_9
[14:24] <Gasseus> can anyone recommend a good php ide?
[14:24] <osmosis_paul> escott, ;-)
[14:24] <cire_> need some help i am new to xubuntu having problem with the sound i tried the alsa but did not work
[14:24] <compdoc> Cat-Meow, what happens when you open https://access.pensacolastate.edu/student.asp?
[14:24] <Cat-Meow> compdoc, it tells me "Could not connect to remote server"
[14:25] <Cat-Meow> cire_, do you dual boot with windows?
[14:25] <cire_> yeah
[14:25] <escott> m_fulder, ia32-libs
[14:25] <xrfang> a quesiton about shell script: db_input medium foo/like_debian || true
[14:25] <xrfang>   in this debian config script what's the meaning of "|| true"?
[14:26] <Cat-Meow> cire_, reboot into windows, check and see if your sound works there. Make sure when you restart, that you are not muted in windows
[14:26] <m_fulder> escott thanks trying it on :)
[14:26] <cire_> it works in windows
[14:26] <cire_> but does not in xubuntu
[14:26] <Cat-Meow> cire_, I have the same issue, when I mute in windows and reboot to ubuntu sound won't work
[14:27] <m_fulder> works great and I have saved the library name once again thank you escott :D
[14:28] <escott> m_fulder, in 11.10 it will switch to multiarch (you just install libc6:i386)
[14:28] <axisys> ok now that I installed linux disk encryption in ubuntu .. how would someone verify it remotely.. my IT needs to verify it for audit purpose.. I could record the login as one option.. is there any other way?
[14:28] <m_fulder> ah will remember that to
[14:28] <escott> axisys, what kind of disk encryption
[14:28] <Cat-Meow> cire_, are you having the issue in just Xubuntu, or is it the same with Ubuntu, Kubuntu, or other desktop environments?
[14:29] <axisys> escott: the default with LVM .. used the option from alternate cd during install
[14:29] <cire_> ubuntu 11.04 the sound does not work also
[14:29] <cire_> ubuntu and xubuntu
[14:30] <Cat-Meow> cire_, hmm, not sure now. :(
[14:30] <Cat-Meow> anyone figure out issue with .asp?
[14:30] <cire_> any way thanks Cat meow
[14:31] <axisys> escott: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/10/how-to-install-ubuntu-11-04-on-an-encrypted-lvm-file-system/
[14:31] <Cat-Meow> cire_, you're welcome, sorry I couldn't help further
[14:31] <compdoc> Cat-Meow, that site opens fine for me
[14:31] <axisys> escott: I picked the use entire disk and setup encrypted lvm
[14:31] <compdoc> you think you have some add-on or setting that might stop it?
[14:32] <Cat-Meow> I tired it in firefox, opera, and chrome
[14:32] <compdoc> you have a firewall on the lan thats preventing opening https sites?
[14:33] <Cat-Meow> don't think so, I can get to those sites in windows and on android devices
[14:33] <compdoc> can other computers on the lan open the site?
[14:33] <Cat-Meow> yes
[14:33] <ikonia> Cat-Meow: that url works fine for me
[14:33] <escott> axisys, im not sure what one would look at to verify dm-crypt. but i imagine it shows up in `mount` if it were me I would install virtual box, and then install ubuntu on that and use disk encryption and then forward the ssh into the vm system, and laugh when they fail to realize the real system isnt encrypted
[14:33] <compdoc> do you use iptables on that machine?
[14:34] <dddbmt_> Anyone know of a mysql program that accept SSH connections? I tried "Mysql administrator" - but it seems like it doesnt support SSH connections.
[14:34] <Cat-Meow> it works when I use my ubuntu 10.10 disc, just not with 11.04 installed
[14:34] <dddbmt_> mysql client*
[14:34] <arshinator> hi i have just installed ubuntu and when i am trying to see any video in the browser on youtube i am not able to do so
[14:34] <axisys> escott: hehe..
[14:34] <dualcore> i was downloading a torrent in transmission and it said Tracker gave a warning: "Your torrent client ip is (my ip)"
[14:34] <arshinator> is shockwave player already not preinstalled?
[14:34] <dualcore> Does this mean I was downloading it from myself? and does that mean my computer could be hosting torrents without my knowledge?
[14:35] <somsip> arshinator: no - you have to install flash-plugin or similar
[14:35] <arshinator> how to do it?
[14:35] <axisys> escott: mount does not show it.. during boot it asks encrypted passphrase
[14:35] <arshinator> can u pls guide me somsip
[14:35] <Cat-Meow> I think it has to be an issue with 11.04...every other thing I use works
[14:35] <axisys> escott: and then the login prompt for my password
[14:36] <arshinator> somsip:cn u pls guide me hw to d that
[14:36] <axisys> escott: mount shows only if I chose encrypted home dir
[14:36] <arshinator> i am new on ubuntu
[14:36] <escott> axisys, "verify remotely" that a system you installed is encrypted.... thats very possibly the stupidest thing i've ever heard. are they going to come over and verify that the password isn't taped to the bottom of the machine?
[14:36] <somsip> arshinator: whatversion of ubuntu
[14:36] <arshinator> the latest
[14:36] <axisys> escott: tell me about it..
[14:36] <arshinator> i guess 11.04
[14:36] <axisys> escott: they rather me run windows with guardiaedge full disk encryption
[14:37] <escott> axisys, you could boot a liveusb and then someone could ssh into the liveusb system and see the disk is encrypted
[14:37] <somsip> arshinator: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/03/install-adobe-flash-player-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[14:37] <axisys> escott: uh huh.. awesome idea
[14:37] <axisys> escott: thanks .. let me do that
[14:37] <somsip> arshinator: not personally tested, but looksa good tutorial
[14:38] <arshinator> somsip:thanks i guess this would solve the problem
[14:38] <escott> axisys, i hate auditors
[14:38] <axisys> escott: stupid question.. but anyway they can tell that they log'd in into the live cd env?
[14:39] <somsip> arshinator: cool
[14:39] <axisys> escott: yep
[14:39] <Cat-Meow> I guess my issue is unfixable
[14:40] <escott> axisys, a trained baboon could probably identify the difference between a livecd and an installed system. not sure an auditor could
[14:40] <axisys> rotflmao
[14:41] <axisys> escott: coolest comment of the day
[14:41]  * axisys can't stop laughing.. sorry
[14:41] <Cat-Meow> ??? axisys?
[14:41] <escott> axisys, but seriously there are things you could tell the auditor to look for, but hes not going to understand it. people who know what they are doing leave auditing because its so pointless. so just tell him its the install disk and this is the drive and you can see it cant be opened
[14:42] <herrgabriel> when I click on links in evolution or empathy, the content of the link is being loaded into Geany instead of being opened with firefox. halp plox?
[14:43] <axisys> escott: yep.. I guess if he can't fig it out.. he should not audit in the first place and find someone who can . before they deny me from running ubuntu on corporate laptop
[14:43] <axisys> Cat-Meow: being silly... i thought escott's comment was too funny about trained baboon.. specially when picturing one. :-)
[14:44] <escott> axisys, if he starts asking questions just show that `mount` sets root on a loopback on top of a device which is really a usb device
[14:45] <axisys> escott: yep.. good point
[14:45] <axisys> escott: thanks a lot!
[14:45] <Cat-Meow> no one else has any ideas as to why I cannot connect to .asp sites?
[14:45] <escott> axisys, its always better to have answers to their questions than make them think. they can only do that once a day
[14:45] <axisys> escott: yep
[14:46] <axisys> escott: :-)
[14:46] <h00k> [1;3D
[14:46] <h00k> apologies. That wasn't directed at anyone ;)
[14:46] <escott> Cat-Meow, what do you mean cannot connect?
[14:47] <Cat-Meow> it won't let me load the pages, keeps saying "cannot connect to remote server"
[14:47] <brontosaurusrex> silly one: how would i disable capslock on remote machine (via nx) ? running ubuntu karmic btw
[14:48] <escott> Cat-Meow, this sounds like it would be specific to one server or that your entire internet connection is down. not that "all asp pages don't work but everything else does"
[14:48] <brontosaurusrex> now i have a toggled state, local machine are CAPS, while remote is normal and vice versa
[14:49] <Cat-Meow> escott, other people can get to those sites, I can get to them in everything BUT Ubuntu 11.04, and it's only those sites ending with .asp or .aspx that I have issues with
[14:49] <escott> brontosaurusrex, copy your .Xmodmap over to the remote machine?
[14:49] <OerHeks> Cat-Meow, do you use IPtables yourself, like you asked us before  ?
[14:49] <brontosaurusrex> escott: this is windows
[14:49] <Cat-Meow> IPtables?
[14:50] <arshinator> hi i am not able to install adobe flash through ubuntu software center
[14:50] <arshinator> can anyone help me
[14:50] <maximilian_> #freies-magazin
[14:50] <escott> brontosaurusrex, do you mean you had caps ON when you connected, but they started OFF on the other machine so when you hit capslock they switch to off/on instead of on/off
[14:50] <szal> brontosaurusrex: we neither support Karmic (EOL) nor Windows (different OS)
[14:50] <archman> arshinator: do you have "flashplugin-installer" installed?
[14:50] <arshinator> no
[14:50] <dualcore> how can i tell if my computer is hosting torrents somehow without my knowledge
[14:51] <archman> arshinator: install it
[14:51] <arshinator> how?
[14:51] <archman> arshinator: apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[14:51] <brontosaurusrex> escott: yes
[14:51] <brontosaurusrex> szal: ok ...
[14:52] <escott> brontosaurusrex, i would restart the connection with caps_lock off. i didnt realize that could happen
[14:53] <escott> Cat-Meow, what happens if you take the url and plug it into wget?
[14:53] <brontosaurusrex> escott: that didnt help
[14:53] <arshinator> archman:thanks...just one more question why am i not able to play mp3 files
[14:54] <escott> Cat-Meow, wget -o google.html http://www.google.com/index.html vs wget -o asp.html http://something/that/ends/in.asp
[14:54] <Cat-Meow> escott, please forgive me for being dumb, I never heard of wget, googling now though
[14:54] <archman> arshinator: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[14:54] <archman> arshinator: use ubuntu's wiki
[14:54] <escott> Cat-Meow, it will just download the page and save it to a file
[14:54] <xaojan> SOS...korean characters display overlapping in chromium...how to fix it?
[14:54] <escott> arshinator, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:54] <needhelp1> im having issues connecting to my other pc on the same router via smb via shared folder. i think i know the issue, the two computers have the same hostname, so i changed one of them, but its still not showing in shared network folder, both pcs are ubuntu, im trying smb://192.168.1.101/home/user/Desktop/test    its not working
[14:55] <archman> arshinator: in short, you need ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:55] <Herakles_> I want to suggest to put the Keybindig for turning the X-Server off back to "Alt"+"Crtl"+"Backspace"
[14:55] <arshinator> thanks
[14:56] <kernix> hi all
[14:56] <archman> o/
[14:56] <escott> Herakles_, you can add nozap=false to your Xorg.conf
[14:56] <Cat-Meow> escott, where does it save it to?
[14:57] <escott> Cat-Meow, type pwd in the terminal and it will say
[14:57] <axisys> Cat-Meow: by deafult same place where you are running it from
[14:57] <needhelp1> im having issues connecting to my other pc on the same router via smb via shared folder. i think i know the issue, the two computers have the same hostname, so i changed one of them, but its still not showing in shared network folder, both pcs are ubuntu, im trying smb://192.168.1.101/home/user/Desktop/test    its not working
[14:57] <axisys> Cat-Meow: what escott said
[14:57] <archman> needhelp1: you just said that a min ago, we saw it
[14:57] <susundbe1g> needhelp1: network connection works fine between them?
[14:58] <susundbe1g> needhelp1: that is you can ping the other machine?
[14:58] <needhelp1> susundbe1g: yeah, ping works, and interenet works
[14:58] <escott> Herakles_, enable zapping like you wanted
[14:58] <Cat-Meow> it's an html file that says "--2011-08-18 09:57:56--  https://access.pensacolastate.edu/student.asp Resolving access.pensacolastate.edu... 150.176.79.129 Connecting to access.pensacolastate.edu|150.176.79.129|:443... failed: Connection refused. "
[14:58] <fonrithirong> hi, how do you give highest priority to a program you're running?
[14:58] <susundbe1g> needhelp1: ping to the other machine works? it might be that internet connection is fine but router is blocking the connection between the machines
[14:59] <jAyenGreen_> I did an apt-get purge apache2, and apt-get install apache2, which had no errors, but the /etc/apache2 directory doesn't exist
[14:59] <susundbe1g> fonrithirong: see manpage of nice
[14:59] <escott> Cat-Meow, can you please try an asp page that is not https
[14:59] <needhelp1> susundbe1g: the shared folder works on other pcs, like i have a windows box that can see and access the shared ubuntu folder
[14:59] <fonrithirong> susundbe1g, thanks!
[14:59] <Cat-Meow> ok, lemme find one
[14:59] <needhelp1> susundbe1g: is there anything wrong with my smb command?
[14:59] <escott> Cat-Meow, perhaps www.w3schools.com/asp/default.asp
[15:00] <needhelp1> smb://192.168.1.101/user/home/Desktop/test    the path is correct
[15:00] <duckxx> so im running ubuntu via virtual box and im getting this proxy error when trying to download stuff via the terminal. But going to sites are fine... Drush dl doesnt work and neither does wget, but pinging site do work! What  could be wrong? screenshot: http://prntscr.com/2orjq
[15:01] <susundbe1g> needhelp1:have you tried console commands?
[15:01] <needhelp1> susundbe1g: console commands? im using these commands in terminal
[15:01] <susundbe1g> needhelp1: i mean 'smbclient' -- the 'smb://192.168.1.101/user/home/Desktop/test' looks like path
[15:02] <needhelp1> susundbe1g: never used it, let me try
[15:02] <escott> duckxx, i think the host proxies network activity for the guest. im not sure how it all works, but evidently thats not working.
[15:02] <susundbe1g> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-8.html
[15:02] <Cat-Meow> I got to w3schools just fine
[15:02] <susundbe1g> needhelp1: check that page
[15:02] <escott> Cat-Meow, so the problem is specific to access.pensacolastate.edu
[15:03] <Cat-Meow> how come it works in everything else except ubuntu 11.04?
[15:03] <Cat-Meow> https://myaccessaccount.dcf.state.fl.us/Login.aspx this site doesn't work in it, either
[15:04] <axisys> Cat-Meow: telnet access.pensacolastate.edu 443
[15:04] <Cat-Meow> ?
[15:04] <axisys> Cat-Meow: what do you get when you run that in terminal ?
[15:04] <Cat-Meow> lemme try, hold on
[15:05] <Cat-Meow> Trying 150.176.79.129...
[15:05] <Cat-Meow> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[15:05] <axisys> Cat-Meow: yep.. you have a network issue.. might be fw..
[15:05] <axisys> Cat-Meow: ufw status
[15:05] <axisys> Cat-Meow: what do you get when you run that on terminal?
[15:05] <escott> Cat-Meow, unclear, maybe an incompatibility between your SSL library and theirs? you could try telnet 150.176.79.129 443
[15:05] <axisys> sudo ufw status <-- this one
[15:06] <Cat-Meow> Status: inactive
[15:06] <axisys> Cat-Meow: so so ubuntu internal fw is not an issue
[15:07] <Cat-Meow> so all 3 of my browsers have an issue with these sites?
[15:07] <axisys> Cat-Meow: what do you get when run the telnet command that escott suggested?
[15:07] <needhelp1> susundbe1g: Desktop$ smbclient --ip-address=192.168.1.101 --directory=/user/home/Desktop/test
[15:07] <needhelp1> susundbe1g: not working
[15:07] <needhelp1> susundbe1g: looks like im using the command wrong
[15:07] <Cat-Meow> same thing as before
[15:08] <escott> axisys, he will get the same result. you beat me to the punch. thats access.pensacolastate.edu
[15:08] <escott> Cat-Meow, it seems to be on their side of the connection. they are blocking your connection
[15:08] <wangyoang> what is this
[15:08] <escott> Cat-Meow, some other things to try (a) can you ping access.pensacolastate.edu? (b) can you traceroute access....
[15:08] <needhelp1> susundbe1g: how do i take down the smb client and restart it?
[15:09] <Cat-Meow> brb, pinging
[15:09] <wangyoang_> this is good
[15:09] <Cat-Meow> PING access.pensacolastate.edu (150.176.79.129) 56(84) bytes of data.
[15:09] <Cat-Meow> From 192.168.1.3 icmp_seq=1 Destination Port Unreachable
[15:09] <Cat-Meow> From 192.168.1.3 icmp_seq=2 Destination Port Unreachable
[15:09] <Cat-Meow> From 192.168.1.3 icmp_seq=3 Destination Port Unreachable
[15:09] <debsan> needhelp1, sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[15:09] <FloodBot1> Cat-Meow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:10] <needhelp1> debsan: does   smbd stop work
[15:10] <needhelp1> smbd restart/start
[15:10] <Guest53083> Is there any channel for discussing about usb in linux
[15:10] <escott> Cat-Meow, and can you telnet to another port (they don't appear to be running a server on port 80 though)
[15:10] <Cat-Meow> not sure
[15:10] <needhelp1> Guest53083: #linux  .. though i would suggest changing your nick
[15:11] <needhelp1> Guest53083: /nick newnickhere
[15:11] <Cat-Meow> apologies, I'm not exactly a computer expect, so some of this stuff I'm not familiar with
[15:12] <intmed> vishnu@vishnu-git-server:~/src$ git clone git://eagain.net/gitosis
[15:12] <axisys> you said you can connect to the site from another computer near you?
[15:12] <intmed> Cloning into gitosis...
[15:12] <intmed> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[15:12] <axisys> Cat-Meow: ^
[15:12] <escott> Cat-Meow, seems like there is something wrong with your network setup. check your router https://192.168.1.1 if that doesn't work try http://192.168.1.1
[15:13] <compdoc> Cat-Meow, try powering off your router
[15:13] <needhelp1> debsan: sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found
[15:14] <san_1989> Is there any channel that handling usb device driver programming in linux?
[15:15] <deven1> Front audio jacks are not detected by ubuntu 11.04 ? help!
[15:16] <san_1989>  Is there any channel that handling usb device driver programming in linux?
[15:16] <Cat-Meow> axisys, I can connect to the sites on this same laptop, just not when using 11.04
[15:17] <axisys> Cat-Meow: oh ok.. so you have multiple OS in this?
[15:17] <compdoc> Cat-Meow, and when did you last use 10.10 on it?
[15:17] <Cat-Meow> I have windows xp, and a boot disc for 10.10
[15:17] <axisys> Cat-Meow: that means like escott and compdoc suggesting.. not probably getting an IP
[15:17] <axisys> from the router
[15:18] <Cat-Meow> why would the router do that with just 11.04 though?
[15:18] <Cat-Meow> and how can I fix it
[15:18] <axisys> Cat-Meow: what do you get from ifconfig ?
[15:18] <intmed> i can't clone gisosis ? why ?
[15:18] <somsip> intmed: gitosis?
[15:19] <intmed> yes
[15:19] <somsip> intmed: not really an ubuntu issue, but what exactly is the problem?
[15:19] <Cat-Meow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/669316/
[15:19] <intmed> vishnu@vishnu-git-server:~/src$ git clone git://eagain.net/gitosis.git
[15:19] <intmed> Cloning into gitosis...
[15:19] <intmed> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[15:20] <compdoc> wlan0 and wlan1?
[15:20] <axisys> Cat-Meow: hmm two ips
[15:20] <axisys> Cat-Meow: netstat -nr ?
[15:20] <compdoc> two wireless adaptors?
[15:20] <Jacruth> hi guys, is there any way to install Windows 7 AFTER installing Ubuntu?
[15:20] <somsip>  intmed: fails here too. Have you tried the https link if there is one?
[15:21] <escott> Cat-Meow, !paste us `route`
[15:21] <escott> !grub | Jacruth just reinstall grub after
[15:21] <Cat-Meow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/669319/
[15:22] <axisys> Cat-Meow: yikes!
[15:22] <Jacruth> escott, will not Windows 7 erase my whole hard disk?
[15:22] <K4k> Does anyone know if .bash_logout runs before or after your session is closed? IE, would the "whoami" command still work for detecting if you have any other sessions still open in other consoles?
[15:22] <axisys> you need to remove one those route
[15:22] <axisys> Cat-Meow: ^
[15:22] <axisys> Cat-Meow: can you paste your interfaces config file
[15:22] <Cat-Meow> how can I get to that?
[15:23] <axisys> Cat-Meow: paste the cat /etc/network/interfaces
[15:23] <escott> Cat-Meow, i think your /etc/hosts is screwed up. route should resolve names unless you say route -n
[15:25] <Cat-Meow> auto lo
[15:25] <Cat-Meow> iface lo inet loopback
[15:25] <escott> Jacruth, can't say what windows will or will not do, but i think you can ask windows to install to a particular partition. but it does insist on blowing away the mbr
[15:25] <axisys> escott: i think that was netstat -nr output
[15:25] <escott> axisys, he sent this http://paste.ubuntu.com/669319/
[15:26] <escott> axisys, ok nevermind i see
[15:26] <axisys> escott: :-)
[15:26] <axisys> Cat-Meow: so wlan1 needs to be down
[15:26] <axisys> Cat-Meow: compdoc asked you  .. if you have two wireless adapters
[15:26] <intmed> somsip: here is the repo http://eagain.net/gitweb/?p=gitosis.git;a=summary
[15:26] <Cat-Meow> no, just the one
[15:27] <axisys> Cat-Meow: so how did you get wlan0 and wlan1 ?
[15:27] <Cat-Meow> I have no idea
[15:27] <axisys> wlan1 needs to be down for you to go out..
[15:27] <axisys> or essentially one of them
[15:27] <Cat-Meow> I see on my network thing it lists my ralink device, but I see something else as well
[15:28] <axisys> Cat-Meow: can you please traceroute to that host and post the output here
[15:28] <Cat-Meow> to the site host from earlier?
[15:28] <axisys> Cat-Meow: also please paste the output of route as escott suggested
[15:28] <axisys> Cat-Meow: yes
[15:28] <Firefishe> I'm using ubuntu/kubuntu 11.04.  I just installed.  I'm using the nvidia-current proprietary driver (or so I thought).  When I bring up the additional drivers dialog, the display says that the driver is activated but not in use.
[15:29] <axisys> Cat-Meow: s/post the output/paste the output/
[15:29] <compdoc> sometmes firewire ports are seen as networks, I think.
[15:29] <escott> axisys, it will be the same as netstat -nr just with * and default and link-local and all that jazz
[15:29] <Cat-Meow> hold on, apparently traceroute wasn't installed
[15:30] <escott> Cat-Meow, its not by default
[15:30] <Cat-Meow> oh
[15:30] <Cat-Meow> I thought it was 9_6
[15:31] <axisys> Cat-Meow: tracepath
[15:31] <Cat-Meow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/669328/
[15:32] <axisys> Cat-Meow: that's it?
[15:32] <Cat-Meow> yes
[15:32] <somsip> intmed: maybe it's dead. It's 2-3 months since I installed it. There seems to be no new repo for it. Maybe just down for a while. Possibly try later/tomorrow
[15:32] <axisys> can you paste the tracepath www.yahoo.com ?
[15:32] <axisys> escott: true
[15:32] <intmed> somsip: ok, will try tomorrow
[15:33] <somsip> Inteus: hang on - it;s on apt-get :-)
[15:33] <somsip> intmed: it's available thorugh apt-get
[15:34] <escott> Cat-Meow, also paste your /etc/hosts
[15:34] <Cat-Meow> ok, hold on
[15:34] <Kingsy> can I get a history of things I had in my clipboard with ubuntu ?
[15:34] <Kingsy> gnome
[15:36] <escott> Kingsy, you can install a clipboard daemon there are a number of them.
[15:36] <Tank852> hi all
[15:37] <besure> hello
[15:37] <Tank852> im running ubuntu 10.04, just started using ubuntu
[15:37] <Cat-Meow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/669332/
[15:38] <Tank852> playing with the themes, etc. is there a easy way to customize the OS?
[15:38] <MasterMark> hi too all
[15:38] <sulisagus> halo
[15:38] <MasterMark> someone has problem with temperature + laptop + ati?
[15:39] <axisys> Cat-Meow: tracepath www.yahoo.com
[15:39] <ramvi> I'm unable to port forward with IPTABLES. Been troubleshooting for hours; what am I doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/NnTNXj4g
[15:39] <escott> MasterMark, try powertop it may help reduce power usage a bit
[15:39] <axisys> escott: that is an awesome tool.. i use it a lot
[15:39] <kingofswords>  hi i play assassin creed in wine but have set to low resolution ....as a result the game doesnt fill the screen, how do i change this?
[15:40] <sulisagus> can i install ubuntu on a macbook?
[15:40] <RA_drc> sulisagus: yes
[15:40] <MasterMark> powertop from teminal?
[15:40] <RA_drc> kingofswords: have you tried a higher resolution?
[15:40] <Kingsy> escott: ah ok, so nothing out of the box then
[15:41] <kingofswords> my graphics card wont handle it
[15:41] <escott> Kingsy, well xclipboard may be part of the base install, but there are so many versions and some have guis and some dont that you should check the different ones out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipboard_manager#X_Window_System
[15:42] <Cat-Meow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/669340/
[15:43] <duckxx> so im running ubuntu via virtual box and im getting this proxy error when trying to download stuff via the terminal. But going to sites are fine... svn doesnt work and neither does wget, but pinging sites do work! What  could be wrong? screenshot: http://prntscr.com/2orjq
[15:44] <axisys> Cat-Meow: it does not look right
[15:44] <livingdaylight> anyone play with the weather screenlet? Seems set to Korea by default and don't see how to change it. In properties there is a zip code dialog, but enterming my postcode returns an error
[15:44] <escott> duckxx, what are the proxy settings in firefox? and does that correspond with the HTTP_PROXY environment variable
[15:44] <axisys> Cat-Meow: you should be departing from wlan0 or wlan1 ..
[15:44] <MasterMark> i've installed powertop
[15:44] <Cat-Meow> how to I turn one of them off?
[15:44] <axisys> Cat-Meow: it shows you departed from 173.23.17.0
[15:44] <escott> axisys, does he need to clear the old routing table? does it remember?
[15:44] <sulisagus> RA_drc: mine is macbook white 7.1. But, on ubuntu community documentation site, the page doesn't exist yet for this particular macbook.
[15:45] <escott> axisys, that is after taking down wlan1?
[15:45] <duckxx> escott where is the http proxy setting sin ubuntu ?
[15:45] <theborger> hey guys having a problem with a fresh install of Ubuntu, apt-get is not working. do i need to change something?
[15:45] <afsdkj> "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system."
[15:46] <escott> duckxx, first echo $HTTP_PROXY in a terminal. wget should be respecting that variable. then go into firefox preferences and see if it is using a proxy
[15:46] <axisys> escott: no .. they both can be up..
[15:46] <axisys> Cat-Meow: you sure you are tracepathing from same host?
[15:46] <Cat-Meow> yea
[15:46] <afsdkj> i want to start firefox, i get the message ""Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.", i try "sudo killall firefox" and i get "firefox: no process found"
[15:46] <Cat-Meow> I need to go now, thank you for the help you've given me so far. Sorry I'm so dumb. :C
[15:47] <axisys> tarcepath should dept from your network.. you departed from 172.* network
[15:47] <axisys> your network based on your ifconfig is 192.*
[15:47] <escott> afsdkj, firefox-bin
[15:48] <afsdkj> escott: aaah, life can be so easy ... thanks
[15:48] <bioiq> hi u all guys!
[15:48] <bioiq> question:
[15:48] <axisys> hmm.. looks like Cat-Meow left
[15:48] <axisys> or dropped off the network
[15:48] <bioiq> i'm running ubuntu lucid 10.04...
[15:49] <theborger> anyone?
[15:49] <escott> axisys, and he will get to repeat everything from scratch when he comes back because he wont remember
[15:49] <MasterMark> nothing change with powertop I have 60°C on coretemp
[15:49] <MasterMark> is too much for idle state
[15:49] <axisys> escott: :-)
[15:49] <w30> afsdkj, there is a file called lock in /home/afsdkj/.mozilla/firefox/abunchofnumbers/lock. remove that
[15:49] <MasterMark> on windows I have 47°C
[15:50] <bioiq> i've got problems with xchat... in specific a bug don't let me save the settings and when i restart it i loose many settings...
[15:50] <escott> MasterMark, its probably all from the ati card. linux doesn't switch to intel graphics as well. you can try vga_switcheroo
[15:50] <axisys> escott: he departed from two different networks.. on the two different tracepath .. not possible
[15:50] <axisys> not posible based on his ifconfig
[15:50] <nekronuke> hey guys, i may have a possible fix
[15:50] <escott> axisys, you got me.... thats why i was wondering if there might be some caching of routes
[15:50] <bioiq> is there a simple way to update the version to 2.8.8 (mine is 2.8.6)
[15:51] <theborger> hey guys having a problem with a fresh install of Ubuntu, apt-get is not working. do i need to change something?
[15:51] <xangua> bioiq: tried the xchat ppa¿
[15:51] <livingdaylight> how does one run a bin file?
[15:51] <bioiq> someone told me to upgrade to natty
[15:51] <livingdaylight> like worldofgoo.bin64
[15:52] <xangua> theborger: what exactly does not work¿ can you give us an output¿
[15:52] <escott> livingdaylight, chmod +x filename; ./filename
[15:52] <livingdaylight> escott, thank you
[15:52] <nekronuke> escott i might have a fix for my previous issue
[15:52] <theborger> xangua: just says connection timed out
[15:52] <escott> nekronuke, can't say i remember what it was
[15:52] <theborger> xangua: i am doing this from the command line. ubuntu 10 server
[15:53] <nekronuke> wouldn't boot past bios for shit
[15:53] <escott> nekronuke, the geom error?
[15:53] <xangua> theborger: then cahnge it and use the main servers
[15:53] <nekronuke> after installing ubuntu it'd give me a geom error with the USB in, nothing at all without the USB in
[15:53] <MasterMark> so I can't have linux on my laptop
[15:53] <nekronuke> installing it to my HDD through the USB
[15:53] <MasterMark> because it can't menage well the ati card
[15:53] <theborger> xangua, how do i change it?
[15:53] <xangua> theborger: on software centre-edit-sources
[15:54] <livingdaylight> please, what is the short way to get to home/user? .~/ is almost right?
[15:54] <escott> MasterMark, if you can run it with the built-in graphics (assuming this is an i-series) that would be better
[15:54] <escott> livingdaylight, "cd" or "cd ~" or "cd $HOME"
[15:54] <h00k> nekronuke: Please keep the language family friendly :)
[15:54] <HSarena> Hello, i have a problem, I install wine but it doesn't working.. how can I use it??
[15:54] <livingdaylight> escott, if I have a long path then ?
[15:55] <w30> livingdaylight, just type cd in a terminal
[15:55] <theborger> xangua: huh?
[15:55] <nekronuke> sorry h00k
[15:55] <theborger> xangua: change source-list?
[15:55] <escott> livingdaylight, "long path"??
[15:55] <livingdaylight> w30, I want the short cut
[15:55] <ikonia> !wine | HSarena
[15:55] <bioiq> i don't like too much ppa's
[15:55] <xangua> theborger: no, change the server
[15:55] <livingdaylight> escott, I've seen a ~./ followed by rest of path. It circumvents having to do home/username
[15:56] <MasterMark> no it's a core 2 duo, so I only have the integrated driver
[15:56] <escott> livingdaylight, you mean ~/ not ~./
[15:56] <livingdaylight> escott, something like that
[15:56] <theborger> xangua: ok where? and what do i cahnge it to, i am on the cmd line no interface
[15:56] <MasterMark> i repeat 60°C and 74°C only for opening chromium is too much
[15:56] <escott> livingdaylight, ~ expands to $HOME which expands to /home/whatever
[15:56] <livingdaylight> I thought there was a dot somewhere in that combination
[15:56] <HSarena> ikonia: i can't running some windows software with wine
[15:56] <ikonia> HSarena: yes, I gave you a link to read to explain it to you
[15:56] <ikonia> !wine > HSarena
[15:57] <ikonia> !appdb > HSarena
[15:57] <bar> Can anyone make sense of this? I think I need to fsck my drive. hmm http://pastebin.com/kpqsrWQk
[15:57] <MasterMark> or my worries are exagerate?
[15:57] <bioiq> ok... if i have to upgrade to natty... is there a simple way to save all my system?
[15:57] <ikonia> HSarena: check the pm's the bot "ubottu" has just sent you
[15:57] <w30> livingdaylight, type cd /$HOME/where you want to go in home
[15:57] <escott> livingdaylight, . expands to the current working directory whatever that is. ~./ doesn't expand cause its wrong
[15:57] <bioiq> what about dd?
[15:57] <ikonia> bahart: that looks like hardware issues, not fle system
[15:57] <jpgnizak> MasterMark, have you tried restarting?
[15:58] <jpgnizak> And installing ATI driver?
[15:58] <MasterMark> yeah @hpgnizak now I have 58°C and the pc is in idle state
[15:58] <MasterMark> yes I have the lastes catalyst 11.7
[15:58] <escott> MasterMark, assuming no process is running 100% in top its almost certainly your ati card
[15:58] <theborger> xangua: ok where? and what do i cahnge it to, i am on the cmd line no interface
[15:59] <ikonia> bar: that looks like a hardware error, rather than a file system error
[15:59] <bar> ikonia: very interesting, thank you. what's the give away?
[15:59] <bar> ikonia: eg. what makes you say that (so I can try to recognize this next time)
[15:59] <ikonia> bar: the IO errors
[15:59] <xangua> theborger: i supose your apt line says something ike us.archive.ubuntu.com¿ or the country you are
[15:59] <ikonia> bar: that's referencning a device, not a file system
[16:00] <MasterMark> I tell you escott top give me no process with 100% cpu
[16:00] <fatih1993> hi, how can i find library names for gcc command ? I am using Ubuntu 11.04. I need iostream, math.h, stdlib.h libraries.
[16:00] <bar> ikonia: I/O error, dev sda, sector 51036287 - right?
[16:00] <ikonia> fatih1993: they are headers, not libraries
[16:00] <ikonia> bar: yes
[16:00] <bar> ikonia: that couldn't be because that sectors bad or anything? (I really have no idea)
[16:00] <theborger> xangua: where is this line at? in apt/sources.list?
[16:00] <ikonia> bar: possibly, but that's hardware, don't fix sectors on the file system
[16:00] <bar> ikonia: well, I've fixed this problem by simply a reboot, but it randomly breaks and filesystem goes read only
[16:00] <xangua> theborger: archive.ubuntu.com would be the main repository
[16:00] <MasterMark> powertop says 36% fglrx
[16:00] <ikonia> bar: then you've not fixed it
[16:01] <bar> ikonia: hm, are you implying that hardware, meaning, the drive might be dying?
[16:01] <escott> MasterMark, then your ati card is the source of the heat. if you are using catalyst drivers complain to ati
[16:01] <ikonia> bar: it's probably going read only due to the fact there is a hardware problem
[16:01] <bar> ikonia: yeah
[16:01] <escott> MasterMark, you could also disable compiz it might lower temps a bit
[16:01] <ikonia> bar: possibly, yes
[16:01] <escott> !classic | MasterMark
[16:01] <bar> ikonia: hmm, any tips for narrowing this down?
[16:01] <bar> ikonia: eg. I can run badblocks, maybe
[16:01] <ikonia> bar: in what respect ?
[16:01] <MasterMark> So it's not a kernel o bios problem
[16:01] <MasterMark> I have wish that ati makes good drivers?
[16:02] <bar> ikonia: Any tips on troubleshooting this further to narrow it down? It's happened a few times now over the past few weeks. Filesystem goes read only/drive goes down completely, I usually shut down, turn it back on, it works.
[16:02] <usr13_> where is the applications blacklist
[16:02] <kingofswords> how do i update xorg?
[16:02] <ikonia> bar: it's a hardware error on your disk......
[16:02] <rhino> how can I create a background job to convert all .wav files in a directory and its sub directories to .mp3 and delete the .wav files once they have been converted?
[16:03] <Kyle__> kingofswords: It's updated with everything else, if you're talking about official releases.
[16:03] <ikonia> bar: if you get that sort of IO error, the file system will go read only, so I'm not surprised by that
[16:03] <MasterMark> I'm trying to load gnome classic...but I thinks is catalyst driver the problem
[16:03] <usr13_> so that the update-manager will ignore packages that I want to leave a lone...?
[16:03] <fatih1993> ikonia: how can i reach them?
[16:03] <ikonia> fatih1993: what software are you trying to build ?
[16:03] <ikonia> usr13_: that's called pinning
[16:03] <ikonia> !pinning | usr13_
[16:03] <escott> rhino, something like find -iname *.wav -exec lame
[16:03] <kingofswords> Kyle__, thx
[16:04] <Kyle__> kingofswords: If you're talking about installing the latest greatest from their SVN repo, it's a different story.
[16:04] <Kyle__> kingofswords: And a very scary one.
[16:04] <kingofswords> ah ok..i have 1.7 and read there was a 1.8
[16:04] <bar> ikonia: me neither :) Hm, let me try again, if I were you, what would you do? replace the drive? swap out cables? replace motherboard?
[16:04] <rhino> escott:  I'm new to linux, so how do I actually create the job to run in the background?
[16:04] <ikonia> bar: replace the drive
[16:04] <bar> ikonia: (I'm just trying to figure out what's causing this, or what needs to be fixed
[16:04] <bar> ikonia: gotcha, thanks
[16:05]  * bar should do this sooner rather than later
[16:05] <f3bruary> Can one make a backup of an application that was installed with dpkg ?
[16:05] <bar> ikonia: this is a seagate drive. I probably replace them about every year. this is on a system that is on 24/7 and is under my bed. The drives die a ton... could the heat / 24x7 be causing that? it's super annoying
[16:05] <ikonia> totally
[16:05] <theborger> xangua: still not working
[16:05] <xangua> mmmm :SE
[16:05] <xangua> :S
[16:06] <Kyle__> kingofswords: An X build is not a trivial configure and build, and getting it to integrate with ubuntu properly is a very difficult exercise.  Best to stay with the package maintainers, or use a distro that's more geared to self-compiled code, like archlinux or crux.
[16:06] <bar> ikonia: gah, maybe I could run it without the side panel on or something
[16:06] <theborger> i just get connection error unable to connect to us.archive. etc
[16:06] <ikonia> bar: buy disks that are made for 24x7 use
[16:06] <theborger> xangua:  i just get connection error unable to connect to us.archive. etc
[16:06] <usr13_> My specific problem is that I've installed FF5 on my 10.04 system and the update-manager is now trying to upgrade FF3
[16:06] <usr13_> I want it to quit it!  :)
[16:06] <fatih1993> ikonia: i am trying the examples which are on my C book
[16:06] <kdL2>  remizz
[16:06] <bar> ikonia: interesting, I never thought about that. How would you know that?
[16:07] <w30> bar, boxes close to the floor collect a lot of lint, check that.
[16:07] <ikonia> bar: look on vedors sites, there are disks made for 24x7 operation
[16:07] <Kyle__> bar: The heat could cause that, but um, vibration is more likely.  Does your bed rest at all on it?  Do anything that might cause it to be shaken frequently?
[16:07] <fatih1993> ikonia: i mean, i dont build a software myself.
[16:07] <bar> ikonia: I had no idea, thanks!
[16:07] <bar> w30: I air it out frequently, it's not too bad
[16:07] <escott> rhino, its just a single command. find /path/to/start/in -iname "*.wav" -exec lame -lameopts {} \;  and when its done verify all your mp3s are ok and find /path/to/start/in -iname "*.wav" -exec rm {}\;
[16:07] <usr13_> Ok, I've got it.  Thanks.
[16:07] <theborger> Anyone help me with apt-get not working? i just get connection error
[16:08] <Kyle__> ikonia: Disks made for 24x7 use are nice, but under proper conditions, a cheap drive can last ages as long as it's never spun down.  At least that was the school of thinking back when.
[16:08] <rhino> escott:  will that continually run in the background to convert any new files uploaded/added to the machine
[16:08] <rhino> ?
[16:09] <jpgnizak> MasterMark, I had your problem until I allowed restricted drivers.
[16:09] <jpgnizak> and that fixed it
[16:09] <Olleh> rhino: look into cron jobs, this is the thing that will run a script every X amount of time.
[16:10] <Olleh> and then just point it to a script like this: http://pastebin.com/0DJpXyJk
[16:10] <escott> rhino, not continually, it will run until it completes. if you plan to keep dumping wavs into the folder make it into a script and add it to cron
[16:11] <G00053> when i dual boot from fedora to ubuntu i have to fix permissions everytime i switch back and forth , how do i do it automagically ?
[16:11] <Kyle__> G00053: learn the magic that is /etc/rc.local
[16:11] <Tim55> HEY !
[16:11] <escott> Kyle__, the problem is that modern drives do spin down and retract heads so...
[16:11] <Kyle__> G00053: It's a place for you to put your own scripts, that run after the system scripts.
[16:11] <mintie> how do i use my external hdd to install ubuntu on my other laptop? i have the iso file ready
[16:12] <Kyle__> escott: I have the very bad tendency to disable all the spin down and power saving features on my drives.
[16:12] <HSarena> i wanna install last version of kernel and install Gnome 3, How?????
[16:12] <escott> Kyle__, mother earth hates you :)
[16:12] <G00053> Kyle__: thanks!
[16:12] <sulisagus> mintie: why not just use a flash disk?
[16:12] <escott> !11.10 | HSarena
[16:12] <Kyle__> escott: But since they university I work for pays the power bill, and my systems use way less power than all the lights in their UNUSED student center, I don't feel bad.
[16:12] <xangua> HSarena: upgrade to 11.10 when it's ready ;)
[16:12] <mintie> sulisagus, I have none with me at the moment, nor any CDs, and am quite desperate to get this one up and running
[16:13] <w30> G00053, I changed my user to a common number in both systems one uses 500 and the other uses 1000 so they fight
[16:13] <theborger> anyone?
[16:13] <theborger> sudo apt-get update just fails
[16:13] <HSarena> i have natty, it is'n 11.10????
[16:13]  * Kyle__ is still sad they didn't go with leporous lemur.
[16:13] <mintie> natty is 11.04
[16:13] <Pici> theborger: Can you pastebin the errors that you are getting?
[16:14] <compdoc> theborger, have you tried sudo apt-get upgrade first?
[16:14] <HSarena> so how can i upgrade to 11.10
[16:14] <Tjibba> i broke my grubloader by installing BURG something went wrong. My grubloader is not working anymore... :(
[16:14] <wh1zz0> Hi guys.. I'm testing 11.10 I didn't install via CD, I did an upgrade using update manager. I get this error when I try to reload packages and dependencies.. How can I rectify this?
[16:14] <Tjibba> just seeing this http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/376220359.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1313684961&Signature=wmpcLaARq%2FldV5L8FvlPRydwk1o%3D
[16:14] <wh1zz0> Could not download all repository indexes
[16:14] <Pici> !11.10 | wh1zz0
[16:14] <Kyle__> HSarena: you can try running do-release-upgrade as root
[16:14] <Tjibba> http://twitpic.com/67zphj
[16:14] <mintie> can anyone help me make it so that I can use my external hdd to install ubuntu on my other laptop?
[16:15] <Pici> HSarena: 11.10 is not supported at this time and you are very likely to run into issues. If you want to test it, please join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic there.
[16:15] <theborger> Pici: its on a box, and i have no way to get files from it cause ssh is not working
[16:15] <theborger> compdoc, yes i have
[16:15] <Kyle__> mintie: You can use startup disk creator
[16:16] <Pici> theborger: Can you get any network connection on it?
[16:16] <escott> external hdd is a little tricky not all bioses support it usb hdd as a straight install. you can try to install to it and setup grub on the external, or you can treat it as a usb and use usb-creator-gtk
[16:16] <Kyle__> mintie: IN the administration menu, look for it.  YOu'll need a drive you can wipe, and an ISO of the 'buntu you want to install.  It tells you how.
[16:16] <theborger> pici, yes i can ping out fine, but i cant even remote in
[16:16] <theborger> Pici: as i said it tries to resolve the host, but just gets connection timed out
[16:16] <mintie> Kyle__, I am in that now but the disc isn't showing up?
[16:16] <Nece228> hi
[16:17] <HSarena> ok, so how can i upgrade my kernel????
[16:17] <Nece228> does unity support desktop icons by default?
[16:17] <Pici> theborger: Can you ping us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[16:17] <escott> HSarena, do you have a reason for upgrading your kernel?
[16:17] <theborger> Pici yes
[16:18] <TBotNik> All: Have a thread at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11164182 and need to figure out the SAMBA part ASAP.  Can any one help?
[16:18] <Nece228> if i put files on desktop folder will the files show up on my desktop
[16:19] <Nece228> or unity like gnome shell doesnt support desktop icons?
[16:19] <Pici> theborger: Does w3m us.archive.ubuntu.com  give you a page with "Index of /" etc?  (press Q to quit it)
[16:19] <TBotNik> All: Got some hot jobs to print and can't get the network printer working.
[16:19] <HSarena> escott: in kernel .34 .35 i haven't any problem with my mouse but now in kernel .38 i can't move my mouse sometimes
[16:19] <escott> Nece228, gnome-shell does support Desktop icons, and so does Unity iirc. perhaps your nautilus is not running
[16:19] <Nece228> escott: gnome shell doesnt by default
[16:20] <nekronuke> Running puppy works!
[16:20] <w30> TBotNik, #samba irc helped me tremendously
[16:20] <theborger> Pici no does not load
[16:20] <escott> Nece228, it does on mine, but you can install gnome-tweak-tool and enable it
[16:20] <Pici> theborger: Are you behind a proxy?
[16:20] <Nece228> escott: how about unity
[16:20] <Nece228> does it support desktop icons by default
[16:20] <Nece228> because im gonna install ubuntu today
[16:21] <TBotNik> w30: Thanks will reask there
[16:21] <escott> Nece228, i think it does draw ~/Desktop contents. if its not its probably because nautilus crashed/closed
[16:21] <Nece228> ok
[16:21] <Nece228> so everyone here users windows as their main os
[16:21] <escott> HSarena, there is a ubuntu kernel team which packages kernels, but a new kernel can break any out of tree drivers
[16:22] <Kamikaze> hey all, i have a question, how many MBs should be "swag space" partition during the installation? mine is 20MB, is this less ?
[16:22] <hugenumber> ubuntu is my main os
[16:22] <Nece228> but you dont know if i can place icons on my desktop
[16:22] <sulisagus> nece228, nope. Just use it for games
[16:22] <w30> Nece228, I dual boot ubuntu and fedora, I never heard of windows. What's that?
[16:22] <escott> Kamikaze, obsessed with swap... during the install there isn't anywhere to swap to (usually) so it might be 0
[16:22] <Pici> Nece228: Not everyone here uses Unity.
[16:23] <HSarena> escott: so how can i use kernel .34 or .35 instead of .38
[16:23] <Nece228> Pici: 1600 users and nobody uses unity
[16:23] <escott> HSarena, if you didn't remove them they would be listed in your boot menu
[16:23] <Kamikaze> escott, thanks
[16:24] <hugenumber> no unity here
[16:24] <Nece228> w30: then why your using it right now
[16:24] <nekronuke> whats the linux version of 'my computer'? im booting via puppy
[16:24] <TBotNik> Repeating: All: Have a thread at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11164182 and need to figure out the SAMBA part ASAP.  Got some hot jobs to print and can't get the network printer working. Can any one help? Only works locally on the machine it is attached to.
[16:24] <Pici> nekronuke: We do not support Puppy Linux here. Please use their support channel.
[16:24] <iridium> bam!
[16:25] <HSarena> escott: i remove them:(
[16:25] <escott> nekronuke, there isn't on
[16:25] <nekronuke> Pici, what is the channel?
[16:25] <noneabove1182> hey guys has anyone encountered a problem with running ubuntu in virtual box and none of the games loading ?
[16:25] <escott> !alis | nekronuke
[16:25] <escott> !puppy | nekronuke
[16:25] <TBotNik> w30: Not getting a response there, so reposted here!
[16:26] <Pici> nekronuke: Its #puppylinux
[16:26] <nekronuke> thank you
[16:26] <Kamikaze> escott, and my last question, my player Banshee sometimes gets stuck, its just freeze, is that mean im doing something wrong or its common thing?
[16:26] <erika32533usa> hi all i am having java problem
[16:26] <hugenumber> noneabove: on what os
[16:26] <escott> Kamikaze, no idea, ask the channel
[16:27] <TBotNik> ? No one knows SAMBA?
[16:27] <erika32533usa> i just upgraded from ubuntu 9.04
[16:27] <Kamikaze> escott, never happened with u ever ?
[16:27] <escott> Kamikaze, never used it
[16:27] <erika32533usa> now i cant play yahoo spades
[16:28] <fatih1993> fatih@ubuntu:~/Masaüstü$ gcc ilk.c -o run
[16:28] <fatih1993> ilk.c:1:43: fatal error: iostream: No such file or directory compilation terminated.
[16:28] <HSarena> escott: is there any way to use kernel .34 or any way to solve my mouse problem
[16:28] <Kamikaze> escott, oh i see... so could you suggest me whichever you use ??
[16:28] <fatih1993> What should i do?
[16:28] <erika32533usa> this turning about to headache
[16:28] <escott> Kamikaze, don't listen to music on my computer please ask the channel
[16:28] <w30> Nece228, MS Windows or windows?
[16:28] <Kamikaze> escott, ok thanks :)
[16:29] <llutz> TBotNik: why don't you use IPP for printing, no need for samba. just point the machines to http://hostwithyourprinter:631/printername
[16:29] <Nece228> w30: both
[16:29] <erika32533usa> i guess java an flash r mot user friendly
[16:29] <hugenumber> flash is cool with me
[16:29] <Dulak> HSarena: 2.6.34 never got packaged for ubuntu from what I can tell, the closest is .32
[16:29] <erika32533usa> java horrible
[16:29] <w30> Nece228, I can't afford MS products
[16:29] <escott> HSarena, the ubuntu kernel team has debs you could install of vanilla kernels for basically all kernels. you could also see if the problem is synclient related if this is a touchpad
[16:30] <TBotNik> w30: All 125 of those logged in must be in sleep mode on #samba!
[16:30] <fatih1993> gcc ilk.c -o run
[16:30] <fatih1993> ilk.c:1:43: fatal error: iostream: No such file or directory
[16:30] <Nece228> w30: thats why pirate bay exists :)
[16:30] <w30> TBotNik, *shrugs*
[16:30] <erika32533usa> i hate going back to old version of ubuntu
[16:30] <HSarena> escott, yes i have touchpad, is any way??
[16:31] <hugenumber> i cant go past 10.10...prefer 10.04
[16:31] <w30> Nece228, I don't pirate
[16:31] <iridium> *boum*
[16:31] <HSarena> Dulak, what about .37???
[16:31] <Nece228> w30: my first pc was with preinstalled windows
[16:31] <Dulak> HSarena: nope, .32, .35, .38
[16:31] <TBotNik> llutz: Does Windows do IPP?  Hot print on this network is coming from guest logged in via wifi on Win laptop.
[16:31] <escott> HSarena, there is a tool called "synclient" that can adjust timing related issues with a touchpad. it could be the kernel is seeing your fingers touch the pad, but that synclient thinks the touch is too soft and is ignoring it
[16:31] <Tim55> HELP ME!!
[16:31] <llutz> TBotNik: it does
[16:32] <Dulak> HSarena: the ones missing you'd have to use a vanilla kernel to get, which means you'd be missing a ton of ubuntu/debian kernel patches.
[16:32] <TBotNik> llutz: Where is HOWTO?
[16:32] <cannonball> Running 11.04 with Gnome Classic.  If I drag a window to the top of the screen, it goes full size.  If I'm very careful, I can drag it straight up and not move to the left or the right and it will usually not go full size.
[16:32] <erika32533usa> ubuntu screwed up java
[16:32] <cannonball> I've not been able to find a way to stop it in any config.  Is there an easy way or place to look?
[16:32] <escott> !help | Tim55
[16:33] <escott> TBotNik, windows clients can print to ipp, but i dont think windows serves ipp
[16:33] <markskilbeck> Hi, all. Is there a script that is run on startup in which I can run xmodmap? Is .bashrc correct, or is that loaded only when bash is run?
[16:34] <llutz> TBotNik:setup a  network-printer pointing to -> http://hostwithyourprinter:631/printername   make sure cups runs and accepts remote access
[16:34] <markskilbeck> Like some ~/.startup file.
[16:34] <Dulak> erika32533usa: if you mean openjdk that was debian, they don't like the license on the sun version.
[16:34] <escott> markskilbeck, maybe its named wrong should just be .Xmodmap and gnome should load it
[16:34] <w30> Nece228, you need MS Windows for some things; I just don't do those things.
[16:34] <llutz> TBotNik: err,  http://hostwithyourprinter:631/printers/printername      it is
[16:35] <erika32533usa> it wont work in 10.10 or 11.04
[16:35] <llutz> TBotNik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[16:36] <Dulak> markskilbeck: .bashrc is technically for non-interactive logins, .bash_profile is for interactive logins, though ubuntu runs them both on an interactive login for some reason
[16:36] <HSarena> So how to fix it???? :-?
[16:36] <OerHeks> erika32533usa, did you restart ALL your browsers after install Java ?
[16:36] <markskilbeck> Dulak: so .bash_profile is run on login?
[16:36] <erika32533usa> ya
[16:36] <erika32533usa> see i tried playing yahoo spades
[16:36] <escott> markskilbeck, thats not the appropriate place. its for terminal logins not X sessions
[16:37] <erika32533usa> i can get in lobby
[16:37] <Dulak> markskilbeck: .bashrc and .bash_profile both get run on login, but technically for an interactive login, (where you are using the shell, not running a script) .bash_profile is the proper place.
[16:37] <erika32533usa> when i goto sit a new window pops up in just grey
[16:37] <Amelie> un français qui traine dans le coin pour un coup de main à une débutante sous ubuntu?
[16:38] <Dulak> markskilbeck: you can use .bashrc, or set your terminal to use a login shell and use .bash_profile
[16:38] <escott> markskilbeck, what is the name and path to your xmodmap file
[16:38] <Myrtti> erika32533usa: so have you installed Sun Java, or are you going with the default Java?
[16:38] <erika32533usa> how yu do that
[16:38] <markskilbeck> escott: it's produced by xkeycaps, and is at ~/.xmodmap-mark-laptop
[16:38] <markskilbeck> Can I just rename that to .Xmodmap?
[16:38] <escott> markskilbeck, yes just rename it
[16:39] <Myrtti> erika32533usa: or how did you upgrade? which version are you using now that doesn't work and you want to fix?
[16:39] <erika32533usa> i have ice tea plugin
[16:39] <Myrtti> erika32533usa: well that may not work as expected
[16:39] <markskilbeck> escott: OK. Lemme see if works.
[16:40] <erika32533usa> where do i find another plugin?
[16:40] <erika32533usa> i have open jdk
[16:41] <HSarena> escott: i use use synclient but don't know what i have to do!!!
[16:41] <TBotNik> llutz escott: I can't link/find the printer from the Win box using the HOWTO.  Any other ideas?
[16:41] <llutz> TBotNik: make sure cups runs and accepts remote access
[16:41] <escott> HSarena, i dont know synclient that well either. its just an alternative. im not convinced your problem is really the kernel
[16:42] <Myrtti> erika32533usa: which version of Ubuntu are you running tho?
[16:42] <rypervenche> Amelie: Je peux t'aider peut-être.
[16:42] <Myrtti> !fr | Amelie
[16:43] <TBotNik> llutz: How can I tell that, think CUPS is going south, see errors I'm getting, in that thread I wrote.
[16:43] <llutz> TBotNik: sudo lsof -i :631
[16:44] <llutz> TBotNik:check   /var/log/cups/* for errors  if it doesn't run
[16:45] <HSarena> escott, i think i have to install xf86-input-synaptics because i use this on Sabayon Linux, but i can't install it. please told me how to install this package???
[16:46] <llutz> !info xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[16:46] <llutz> HSarena: ^
[16:46] <escott> HSarena, s/xf86/xserver-xorg/
[16:48] <TBotNik> llutz: No offence but this is not working and will probably take longer to fix that fixing SAMBA, which has to be fixed for the file sharing anyway.  Do you agree?
[16:49] <llutz> TBotNik: no idea about samba, but i guess you'll have to fix cups in both cases first
[16:50] <Jacruth> guys, I'm trying to repair my grub and I'm doing "grub> find /boot/grub/stage1" and it returns that the file is not found, what file should I look for?
[16:51] <TBotNik> llutz: The Win laptop already had this printer define, before we had to reload the OS, but now SAMBA is broken, so laptop can not see the printer.
[16:51] <TBotNik> defined, sorry
[16:51] <escott> Jacruth, what version of grub are you using
[16:51] <DeadmanIncJS> is there a good link for learning how to install Win7 on an Ubuntu machine (dual boot)
[16:52] <escott> !grub | DeadmanIncJS
[16:52] <llutz> TBotNik: sudo lsof -i :631          any output?   the "cups: connection refused" errors in your forum-post says cups doesn't run at all
[16:52] <DeadmanIncJS> oh lord
[16:52] <DeadmanIncJS> k
[16:52] <TBotNik> llutz: just says listening
[16:53] <Jacruth> escott, I think I'm using grub2 (I'm using a livecd for UBuntu 10.10)
[16:53] <llutz> TBotNik: netstat -4tlpen |grep :631                 says what?
[16:53] <DeadmanIncJS> im on 11.04
[16:53] <DeadmanIncJS> so i should have G2, right?
[16:54] <escott> Jacruth, dpkg -l "*grub*"
[16:54] <TBotNik> llutz: The Win "Add Printer" comes up to Browse, enter the http://server/printers/Deskjet-6500 and always errors.
[16:54] <escott> Jacruth, i think its 1.99
[16:54] <Jacruth> escott, GNU Grub 0.97
[16:54] <TBotNik> netstat -4tlpen |grep :631
[16:54] <TBotNik> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:631           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      0          22193       3147/cupsd
[16:55] <escott> Jacruth, ubuntu has used grub 2 since 9.10 apparently
[16:55] <Jacruth> that Is what "apt-get install grub" did
[16:55] <llutz> TBotNik: your cups won't accept requests from LAN, thus you get the rror
[16:55] <Jacruth> they should change the repositories then
[16:56] <TBotNik> llutz: explain, already changed the ufw settings
[16:56] <hugenumber> i thought it was 9.4
[16:56] <hugenumber> 9.04
[16:56] <escott> Jacruth, you want to install grub-pc not grub
[16:56] <newb> Anyone know a good english to german dictionary on ubuntu offline
[16:56] <newb> ?
[16:56] <TBotNik> llutz: My config file is in that thread.  Need URL again?
[16:57] <medfly> how do I find the encryption key? I encrypted my home partition on install.
[16:57] <llutz> TBotNik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP                the part "cupsd.conf"
[16:57] <TBotNik> llutz: Oops that is SAMBA config, not cups.
[16:57] <llutz> TBotNik: add a line "Listen 192.168.1.2:631"   replace with your local IP
[16:57] <escott> medfly, ~/.Private has instructions
[16:57] <Kyle__> Where is the proper place to put frame-buffer settings in ubuntu server?
[16:57] <DeadmanIncJS> im not looking to restore GRUB2.  i don't see in the instructions on either page to dual boot
[16:58] <TBotNik> llutz: That is the one I'm on.  Following it solves nothing.
[16:58] <llutz> TBotNik: restart cups
[16:58] <TBotNik> K looking at it
[16:58] <llutz> TBotNik: your cups just listens on localhost, see your netstat output
[16:58] <escott> DeadmanIncJS, just install windows, and then restore grub
[16:58] <medfly> ugh
[16:58] <Jacruth> Grub installation has failed, GRUB couldn't install /dev/sda
[16:58] <Jacruth> escott ^
[16:59] <escott> Jacruth, i think you are using the wrong version of grub, and you should uninstall grub and work with grub-pc
[16:59] <Jacruth> I'm using grub-pc right now, escott
[16:59] <Jacruth> well, I'm trying to isntall it
[17:00] <medfly> escott: are you sure?
[17:00] <escott> Jacruth, because you should be using grub-setup
[17:00] <newb> Anyone know a good english to german dictionary on ubuntu offline?
[17:00] <Firefishe> I just installed 11.04.  I'm using the proprietary nvidia-current package, but my Additional Drivers dialog says it's activated but not in use.
[17:00] <TBotNik> llutz: something like:Listen localhost:631
[17:00] <TBotNik> Listen 192.168.3.2:631
[17:00] <TBotNik> Listen 192.168.3.10:631
[17:00] <medfly> escott: I can't see much useful stuff there
[17:01] <Jacruth> I'm following this tips escott : http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-grub-2-on-ubuntu-9.04
[17:01] <escott> medfly, the ecryptfs mounting instructions will be visible in the home folder when the ecryptfs overlay is not mounted. they are hidden when it is mounted
[17:01] <medfly> escott: it is mounted. I just wanna know the encryption key.
[17:01] <llutz> TBotNik:  "Listen 192.168.1.2:631"   replace with the local IP of the machine cups runs on
[17:02] <TBotNik> llutz: 1st is lh, 2nd eth0, 3rd laptop
[17:02] <escott> Jacruth, are you in fact upgrading? or are you trying to restore. if the latter then follow !grub
[17:02] <Jacruth> !grub
[17:02] <llutz> TBotNik: remove 3rd
[17:02] <llutz> TBotNik: sudo service cups restart               when done
[17:02] <TBotNik> llutz: Dhcp3-server is running on eth0
[17:03] <llutz> TBotNik: What is the local-ip of the machine running cups / having the printer attached?
[17:03] <escott> medfly, this is the main documentation page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[17:03] <TBotNik> 192.168.3.2 which is dhcp3-server
[17:04] <llutz> TBotNik: so remove 3rd "Listen" statement
[17:04] <escott> medfly, i think you need this ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase /home/username/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[17:04] <repozitor> helloo all!
[17:05] <hugenumber> HI
[17:05] <Jacruth> escott, my Ubuntu is on /dev/sda1, then should I do "grub-install /dev/sda1/ ?
[17:06] <repozitor> i have an problem about ubuntu upgrade
[17:06] <TBotNik> llutz: Still only get: netstat -4tlpen |grep :631
[17:06] <TBotNik> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:631           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      0          604692      5145/cupsd
[17:06] <llutz> TBotNik: sudo service cups restart               when done
[17:06] <repozitor> ?
[17:06] <escott> Jacruth, no you would make sure /boot is mounted and then grub-install /dev/sda (no partition number)
[17:06] <TBotNik> llutz: Did that process ID is only change
[17:06] <llutz> TBotNik:check   /var/log/cups/* for errors
[17:06] <glebihan> repozitor, please be a little more precise
[17:07] <eliotn> ??
[17:07] <Firefishe> brb
[17:07] <Tech_Support> what's the problem with the upgrade?
[17:07] <Tech_Support> let me guess
[17:07] <repozitor> ok, my problem is that when i upgrade it, my gcc compiler does not work properly
[17:08] <szal> Tech_Support: don't guess..
[17:08] <jarnos> I have no swap after installing Natty. I did 2GB swap partition manually in installation. I did choose encrypted home folder.
[17:08] <szal> repozitor: define 'does not work properly'
[17:08] <Tech_Support> well it's too late for guessing now
[17:08] <jarnos> How to fix swap?
[17:08] <Tech_Support> you needs ta be more the specific if you want to get a problem solved
[17:08] <TBotNik> llutz: Get "Unable to bind socket for address" for both the localhost and the 192.168.3.2 addresses
[17:08] <Tech_Support> make it so we understand the problem
[17:09] <repozitor> ok, when i enter below command "gcc main.c" compiler say to me no input file
[17:09] <hugenumber> i dont understand tech_support...jk
[17:09] <llutz> TBotNik: sudo service cups stop &&  sudo service cups start
[17:09] <glebihan> jarnos, what does "swapon -s" say ?
[17:09] <escott> jarnos, use blkid to identify the uuid of your swap partition and then add UUID=??? none            swap    sw              0       0 to your fstab
[17:09] <Tech_Support> lol
[17:09] <escott> jarnos, you may also need to run mkswap on the partition
[17:10] <TBotNik> llutz: K, did that, still no change.
[17:10] <repozitor> szal: ?
[17:10] <jarnos> glebihan, only headlines
[17:10] <Pici> repozitor: What are the errors that you are getting that lead you to believe that it is not working properly?
[17:11] <hugenumber> Whats the difference between Ubuntu and Ubuntu Server?
[17:11] <Jacruth> fixed, escott
[17:11] <Jacruth> I have used "boot-repair" and it did all fast and automatically
[17:11] <edbian> hugenumber: Ubuntu server does not have a gui installed by default.  That is the biggest difference
[17:11] <repozitor> tnx for any giudance, it fixed
[17:11] <repozitor> bye
[17:11] <repozitor> ;)
[17:11] <llutz> TBotNik: pastebin your cupsd.conf and the output of "/sbin/ifconfig" please
[17:11] <cfedde> hugenumber: mosty wheather it starts the gui.  what edbian said.
[17:11] <llutz> !paste | TBotNik
[17:11] <TBotNik> llutz: Dang if I could get WebMin working it fixes SAMBA straight out and "always" runs right the first time.
[17:11] <hugenumber> lame
[17:11] <hugenumber> Thanks
[17:11] <Jacruth> In fact, I think I love boot-repair :3
[17:11] <cfedde> hugenumber: why is that lame?
[17:11] <llutz> !webmin
[17:12] <hugenumber> I was expecting more
[17:12] <cfedde> um...ok.
[17:12] <mac_> hi 2 mins back i installed virtualbox in ubuntu 11.04 when i start the virtual os it shows me an error like this "Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)
[17:12] <mac_> The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing
[17:12] <mac_> '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'
[17:12] <mac_> as root. Users of Ubuntu, Fedora or Mandriva should install the DKMS package first. This package keeps track of Linux kernel changes and recompiles the vboxdrv kernel module if necessary."
[17:12] <FloodBot1> mac_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:12] <glebihan> jarnos, do you know the device name of the partition you formatted for swap ?
[17:12] <sveinse> I'm building a package and I have a special need to append a build number to the version number given in debian/changelog. I remember I saw somewhere that is is possible, but I can't find it. Anyone with knowledge of this?
[17:12] <DeadmanIncJS> escott... you serious?  just install windows w/o partitioning?
[17:13] <newb> how do i add a german dictionary to gnmoe dictionary
[17:13] <hugenumber> well i run servers on my ubuntu and always wondered if ubuntu server could possible benefit more
[17:13] <escott> DeadmanIncJS, you will have to have some free space to install windows to
[17:13] <DeadmanIncJS> i've got a 750gb hard drive that only has Ubuntu on it right now
[17:13] <DeadmanIncJS> i was going to split it 50/50
[17:13] <Pici> sveinse: #ubuntu-packaging would be a better place to ask (or if theres no answer there, #ubuntu-motu).
[17:14] <DeadmanIncJS> or at least 500gb for Linux and the rest Windoze
[17:14] <Tech_Support> windoze lol
[17:14] <jarnos> glebihan, it was on /dev/sda7 during installation, but now it is /dev/sdb1, since I added a hard disk.
[17:14] <mac_> hi 2 mins back i installed virtualbox in ubuntu 11.04 when i start the virtual os it shows me an error like this "Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)"
[17:14] <mac_> what should i do
[17:14] <escott> DeadmanIncJS, the only recommendation I would make would be that some bioses don't like to boot from late in the disk or from extended partitions so I usually make sure I have a /boot at the front of the disk, then windows then ubuntu
[17:15] <glebihan> jarnos, ok did you try "sudo swapon /dev/sdb1" ?
[17:15] <escott> DeadmanIncJS, whether or not that is necessary i cant say
[17:15] <cfedde> hugenumber: you could just say that the server edition costs 2x more.  In the way microsoft does.
[17:16] <praxgen> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/08/brave-compiz-prerelease-testers-wanted/  do this mean compiz will be available on gdm3?
[17:16] <escott> jarnos, it should be using uuid as those wont change
[17:16] <hugenumber> @cfedde but are they any major benefits getting ubuntu Server
[17:17] <cfedde> hugenumber: if you're deploying in a server farm then using it means fewer post install customization steps.
[17:17] <jarnos> glebihan, sorry, I meant /dev/sdb7.  Yes I did; it gave: "swapon: /dev/sdb7: read swap header failed: Invalid argument". Please see also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/709363/comments/10
[17:17] <Pici> jarnos: Are you running Oneiric?
[17:17] <escott> jarnos, mkswap first
[17:18] <TBotNik> llutz: PB at: http://pastebin.com/mxBRJVsx
[17:18] <jarnos> Pici, good point, wrong url, wait..
[17:18] <llutz> TBotNik: 192.168.3.12  is your local-ip you have to add, not .3.2
[17:20] <jarnos> Pici, glebihan , I meant this link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/818648/comments/59
[17:20] <TBotNik> llutz: Then dhcp3-server is not starting right, the address is static and is 192.168.3.2
[17:20] <llutz> TBotNik: nonsense, you local-ip is 3.12   reading your ifconfig-output.
[17:20] <hugenumber> @cfedde yes so i would not benefit...yet haha
[17:20] <llutz> TBotNik: you cannot make cups listen on a non-assigned adress
[17:21] <TBotNik> llutz: Restarting dhcp3-server, it's blown
[17:21] <llutz> TBotNik: and how should the cups-listen-statement affect dhcpd3?
[17:22] <jarnos> Pici, I have similar problem in another PC where I have both Natty and Oneiric. In Natty the swap is unavailable, but in Oneiric it is there; encrypted in both.
[17:23] <selvakumaran> how can i recover my ubuntu machine in the boot loader after installing the OpenSuse
[17:24] <edbian> selvakumaran: boot suse, run sudo update-grub
[17:24] <elocina> join #wiki
[17:24] <TBotNik> llutz: The cups in on eth0 and that is dhcp server for the entire network.  eth0 is not dchp client it is server, so has to get it's command from /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf, which sets it to 192.168.3.2, on nothing work, probably why SAMBA was crashing, did not have the static IP assigned in the dhcpd.conf file.
[17:24] <selvakumaran> edbian, i guess it won't run
[17:25] <edbian> selvakumaran: you guess?
[17:25] <TBotNik> llutz: Restart set it right now retesting.
[17:25] <edbian> selvakumaran: what do you mean it won't guess?
[17:25] <selvakumaran> edbian, Nope, i tried
[17:25] <llutz> TBotNik: still nonsense or your pasted the wrong ifconfig
[17:25] <edbian> selvakumaran: mhmm, are you sure ubuntu is still there?
[17:25] <selvakumaran> yes,.
[17:25] <Danielmedvec> `help
[17:25] <TBotNik> llutz: No somehow lost it's dhcp server settings, do not know why, but it did.
[17:25] <Pici> !ask | Danielmedvec
[17:26] <selvakumaran> edbian, let me try it again. Thanks again
[17:26] <edbian> selvakumaran: sure
[17:26] <selvakumaran> edbian, http://opensuse.swerdna.org/susebootubuntu.html
[17:26] <selvakumaran> i found this pretty Gud
[17:26] <edbian> gud
[17:26] <edbian> hehe
[17:26] <llutz> TBotNik: whatever: you have to add a correct Listen-statement to cupsd.conf and that has to contain the IP from "/sbin/ifconfig". then cups has to be restarted
[17:26] <selvakumaran> But i m not sure hw it will wrks
[17:27] <TBotNik> llutz: Now getting:  netstat -4tlpen |grep :631
[17:27] <TBotNik> tcp        0      0 192.168.3.2:631         0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      0          779233      5869/cupsd
[17:27] <TBotNik> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:631           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      0          779232      5869/cupsd
[17:27] <selvakumaran> edbian, Pls give your comment on this
[17:27] <edbian> selvakumaran: that looks good.  This isn't opensuse support though.  This is ubuntu so I can't comment.
[17:27] <xJ0hn> Hei? I need help (:
[17:27] <sinistrad> I have a SATA RAID set up as a storage drive. My main SATA drive (non-RAID) has my current install on it. I'm wanting to re-install ubuntu on my main drive. Are there any problems re-establishing a RAID like this?
[17:27] <glebihan> jarnos, did you run mkswap on the partition as escott suggested ?
[17:27] <selvakumaran> edbian, ok., i can understand. but i want to be Ubuntu user so oly asked.
[17:28] <llutz> TBotNik: no add  http://192.168.3.2:631/printers/printername     to your windows-machine
[17:28] <xJ0hn> Anyone can help me to fix my resolution on bt5?
[17:28] <xJ0hn> 800x600 is max.
[17:28] <edbian> selvakumaran: Well you need to use suse to solve a problem that suse caused.  I suggest you ask in #opensuse
[17:28] <fosburg> I went to; one.ubuntu.com  to open folders from another computer (by email). reviewing photos was very time consuming.  Is there away to review as fast as you can by going to the cloud?
[17:28] <auronandace> !backtrack | xJ0hn
[17:28] <zteam> Hi
[17:29] <zteam> anybody here can help me fix my Nvidia-driver issue?
[17:29] <selvakumaran> edbian, i m moving because i could n't configure Aptana Studio in ubuntu. once i can able to work with those package then i'll be here.
[17:29] <fpeixoto> anyone ever see a situation where going into vi mode from less makes the file look different?
[17:29] <sinistrad> !raid
[17:29] <selvakumaran> edbian, Also Komodo EDIT
[17:29] <zteam> Sometimes then I turn on dualview my pc-monitor just go black
[17:29] <mikesoft> Hi
[17:30] <Kingsy_> anyone in here know about raid with ubuntu?
[17:30] <hylian> silverlight websites won't register as having the plugins installed even though moonlight is installed from the moonlight novell website, so it's the latest.
[17:31] <Herakles_> hel!               How do i install grub on a Dual-Boot....
[17:31] <zteam> Can anybody please help me?
[17:31] <Herakles_> help!
[17:31] <TBotNik> llutz:  Butt still can not access the printer.  Giving up gonna flash stick the files for now. this just is not working, gotta have WebMin nothing else works!
[17:31] <Unknown_Monkey> hey does anyone in here use conky
[17:31] <hylian> zteam, what's the prob bob. :)
[17:31] <sinistrad> Kingsy, I have installed a raid as a storage device. I'll have a few links sent to you.
[17:31] <TBotNik> Bye all
[17:32] <sinistrad> !raid | Kingsy
[17:32] <jarnos> glebihan, no, not yet. "sudo blkid -p /dev/sdb7" says nothing. It seems like the device does not have UUID, as hinted in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes#Boot.2C_installation_and_post-install
[17:32] <zteam> hylian, sometimes then I turn on dualview on my system the main monitor just go black
[17:32] <sinistrad> Kingsy, I'm actually here for advice on my RAID as well.
[17:33] <glebihan> jarnos, you should run mkswap on the device mentioned in your fstab, ie /dev/mapper/cryptswap1
[17:33] <Unknown_Monkey> Hey does anyone know how to setup dual monitors in ubuntu
[17:33] <Kingsy_> sinistrad: ah, well I hvae my raid drive working, it is found under /dev/mapper/ however on the raid controller screen just after boot it says that the dive status is "rebuild"
[17:33] <zteam> hylian, I have tried upgrading the driver, deleted Xorg.conf and reinstalled the driver, but it won't work
[17:33] <hylian> zteam, dual view, never heard of that. but your monitor going black sounds like this dual view is causing your system to go outside the range of your monitor's screen resolution.
[17:33] <fpeixoto> équit
[17:34] <Kingsy_> sinistrad: in windows that meant a program would run in windows and sync the raid drives together again, but none of the ubuntu docs mention that
[17:34] <zteam> hylian, maybe, but I can still see the mouse-pointer
[17:34] <linux_noob> hi all, is there a way to make a hotkey to connect/disconnect autoeth0?
[17:35] <zteam> hylian, killing the X-server makes the screen works again
[17:35] <sinistrad> !mdadm
[17:35] <hylian> zteam, no if you can still see something, then your monitor is handling the screen resolution. hmmm. is this 2 monitors working as one?
[17:35] <Kingsy_> sinistrad: any experience with that?
[17:36] <sinistrad> Kingsy, I'm afraid not. mdadm is a tool to help admin your raid though. Hitting the man page on that might provide some help on how to complete the rebuild or take it out of rebuild status.
[17:37] <fosburg> going to my account, ubuntu One folders open fast and photos reviewed quickly.  when emailing link you cant see thumbnails or review quickly. can that be fixed?
[17:37] <Kingsy_> sinistrad: thanks man
[17:37] <zteam> hylian, I use the Twinview settings, and most of the time it works completly flawless, but sometimes it failes misserably
[17:38] <Kingsy_> sinistrad: are you sure its mdadm? I don't have that installed?
[17:38] <jarnos> glebihan, I'll be back soon.
[17:38] <sinistrad> Kingsy, Sure thing. I'm about to do a re-install, and I want to make sure my new install will see the raid intact.
[17:38] <sinistrad> Kingsy, Yes, google it up. You'll see =)
[17:38] <BunnyG> yaw dudes i put a ntfs drive in my ubuntu server. how can i make it mount with read and write shit erry boot?
[17:39] <hylian> zteam, so this is one monitor then using some special feature that acts like 2 monitors? I am trying to figure out exactly what the problem is, can you tell me the make and model of the monitor and graphics card that gives you this functionality?
[17:39] <somsip> BunnyG: like this, but without he wearing, eh? Add a line to /etc/fstab like this /dev/sdd1 /media/STORAGE ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 0
[17:39] <Kingsy_> sinistrad: how can that be the tool if I don't have it installed? or can you have the raid working without the admin tool to maintain it?
[17:39] <sprash> Hi!
[17:40] <sprash> is there an easy way to disable the home folder encryption
[17:40] <sprash> ?
[17:40] <sinistrad> Kingsy, It's in the repositories I believe.
[17:40] <Kingsy_> sinistrad: ok
[17:40] <zteam> hylian, the graphics card is Nvidia 8800 GT and the name of the second monitor (which is actually a TV) is Sony Bravia KLD-4000W
[17:41] <sinistrad> Kingsy, " apt-cache search mdadm"
[17:41] <hylian> zteam, ahh, now i get it, give me a minute, i think i found a message board with a solution to this...
[17:41] <zteam> hylian, they are connected throught a DVI-HDMI monitor
[17:41] <Brendan1> hello, i need support
[17:41] <linux_noob> anyone? anyway to make a hotkey to connect/disconnect auto eth0 connection
[17:42] <Kingsy_> sinistrad: it would be nice to find a nice GUI tool to manage it
[17:42] <Brendan1> i need to run a jar file.
[17:42] <edbian> linux_noob: Make a script, set the hot-key to run the script.
[17:43] <sinistrad> Kingsy, Webmin might do it as a gui, but Webmin isn't in the repositories.
[17:43] <BunnyG> Thanks somsip :D
[17:43] <hylian> zteam, did you upgrade from one version of ubuntu to the other lately? perhaps 10.10 to 11.04?
[17:43] <Kingsy> sinistrad: np thanks
[17:44] <Brendan1> does anyone know how i can run a jar file?
[17:44] <iridium> java -jar file.jar
[17:44] <linux_noob> can you give instructions?
[17:44] <Brendan1> so in the terminal?
[17:44] <zteam> hylian, yes I did upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10, it worked flawlessy in 10.04
[17:45] <sinistrad> Kingsy, no problem. I would still ask around. I'm sure there are peeps in here that can help.
[17:45] <jarnos> glebihan, so I should run "mkswap /dev/mapper/cryptswap1"?
[17:45] <glebihan> jarnos, yes
[17:45] <Brendan1> Unable to access jarfile /home/brendan/downloads/occupo/partnerpc/class/occupo.jar
[17:45] <Kingsy> sinistrad: np thanks
[17:46] <jarnos> glebihan, it printed "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1: No such file or directory"
[17:46] <hylian> zteam. this seems to be a problem with you xorg.conf file. I am not certain how avid a user you are with linux, so i'll wait for your response on how comfortable you are to mess around with the internal workings of ubuntu.
[17:46] <Pici> !webmin | Kingsy sinistrad
[17:46] <linux_noob> how do you guys reply to someone and get it to alert them? if i right click on a user and select chat it opens a private box...
[17:46] <zteam> hylian, it also acting very strange if I open some movie with Totem, then I can't get the Totem window to my TV, this works flawlessy with VLC thougt
[17:46] <iridium> Brendan1, ls -l /home/brendan/downloads/occupo/partnerpc/class/
[17:46] <glebihan> jarnos, weird... maybe I misread the device name in your post ?
[17:46] <Brendan1> ok ill try that
[17:47] <kzman> hi
[17:47] <zteam> hylian, okey, I already removed my Xorg.conf before and the reinstalled the driver without success, but I be happy to try any solution for this
[17:47] <glebihan> jarnos, could you pastebin the full output of "sudo blkid" ?
[17:47] <zteam> hylian, :-)
[17:48] <Brendan1> ls: cannot access /home/brendan/downloads/occupo/partnerpc/class/: No such file or directory
[17:48] <sinistrad> Pici, Thanks. I use webmin for various tasks, but I don't depend heavily on it. I certainly won't allow it to manage my packages. It can make a mess of things. It does have its uses though. Thanks again Pici.
[17:48] <Pici> sinistrad: np
[17:49] <iridium> Brendan1, self explanatory itself
[17:49] <hylian> zteam, actually that's a huge part of the first solution. you need to remove the file, and then use an nvidia command to re-build it to your hardware specs, let me dig up the command...
[17:49] <kzman> are there a terminal server equivalent for ubuntu?
[17:49] <StaRetji> Folks, I need help, I have two usb 3g modems connected on remote machine. Once occupies ttyUSB0, ttyUSB1, ttyUSB2 and other modem occupies ttyUSB3, ttyUSB4, and ttyUSB5. Can someone help me out to determine which one is on 012 and which in on 345? It seems they swap ttyUSB after reboot which makes problems with .conf files. Any help would be highly appreciated. Thx ;)
[17:50] <jarnos> glebihan, oops, I did "sudo mkswap -c /dev/sdb7".
[17:50] <Brendan1> well i downloaded a zip file in firefox and i extracted it, which is in downloads folder
[17:50] <Brendan1> the folders do exist in the file browser
[17:50] <hylian> zteam, i believe the command is nvidia-xconfig. this should build the .conf file to what nvidia's twinview system requires.
[17:50] <Brendan1> and files
[17:50] <glebihan> jarnos, ok how did that go ?
[17:50] <Brendan1> ive set occupo.jar to executable too
[17:51] <jarnos> glebihan, it printed different UUID than what was commented out in /etc/fstab;
[17:51] <zteam> hylian, okey, that sounds great
[17:51] <iridium> Brendan1, linux is CaSe SeNsiTive, and downloads 99% of times is Downloads
[17:51] <Brendan1> ahh ok ill try it with case then
[17:51] <zteam> hylian, what did you search on to find this?
[17:51] <jarnos> glebihan, but I am not sure if this broke encrypted swap.
[17:52] <zteam> hylian, I have been searching my head off for this without finding it
[17:52] <glebihan> jarnos, btw maybe we should start with the beginning... do you want an encrypted swap or not ?
[17:52] <zteam> hylian, :-)
[17:52] <Kingsy> Pici: do you have any advice about rebuilding a raid mirror?
[17:52] <jarnos> glebihan, does hibernation work with encrypted swap?
[17:52] <Pici> Kingsy: I'm sorry, I don't.
[17:52] <JoyoS> Test
[17:53] <hylian> zteam i searched google with ubuntu twinview, which told me this was an nvidia situation, and then i searched the bug reports. here is the link to the bug report i got this info off of: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=66335
[17:53] <glebihan> jarnos, as far I know yes (not using an encrypted swap myself)
[17:53] <EightySix> Hey guys, Trying to set up my home webserver with dyndns.. can you tell me what text comes up? http://jumpingcrabs.dyndns.info
[17:53] <StaRetji> facbook login
[17:54] <oCean> Kingsy: maybe you could try in #ubuntu-server channel
[17:54] <Kingsy> ok
[17:54] <guhcampos> EightySix, same here: facebook login page. It really looks like you're trying to scam someone =)
[17:55] <iridium> fussnook
[17:55] <zteam> hylian, okey, nice :-)
[17:55] <gp5st> I installed gnome-randr-applet but i can' figure out how to add it to the panel (the obvious method doesn't work) ubunut 11.04
[17:55] <hugenumber> or thats eightysix 's proxy to get around the school network
[17:55] <jarnos> glebihan, if you choose encrypted swap in a partition, can you use the same partition as encrypted and unencrypted swap, if you install another distribution in same PC?
[17:57] <Firefishe> I just installed 11.04 and can't get unity to work correctly.
[17:57] <hylian> gp5st, i nkow of a way to add xrandr to it. no the command for the gnome version?
[17:57] <zteam> hylian, I have now deleted my Xorg.conf file and ran sudo nvidia-xconfig any more steps? :-)
[17:57] <glebihan> jarnos, I would think so, but am really not sure... maybe somebody else could confirm
[17:57] <hylian> gp5st, do you *know the command, my typo.
[17:58] <fosburg> from another location--can I see photo files as thumbnails?
[17:58] <jarnos> glebihan, if I have line "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0" in fstab, I wonder how it even knows about the swap partition.
[17:58] <hylian> zteam, not that i can tell, except that if you do have a problem again, the bug report noted that xorg.conf should never say "default monitor" because then twinview doesn't have your monito(s) sreen resolutions, which then causes x to crash on the second monitor
[17:58] <glebihan> fosburg, what do you mean by "from another location" ?
[17:59] <Brendan1> now there is no errors just when i enter to run jar it goes to next line lol
[17:59] <yourstruly> yes
[17:59] <gp5st> hylian: i know how to execute randr from the command line. i was hoping to use an applet
[17:59] <fosburg> I want to send family photos another location and have them select photos they want
[18:00] <hylian> gp5st, i figured as much, but i was wondering what the command is to run the gui randr program.
[18:00] <fosburg> would do this by email
[18:00] <glebihan> jarnos, apparently it does not know about it. that line was commented out right ?
[18:00] <gp5st> hylian: i didn't know there was a gui for it
[18:00] <sinistrad> If I reinstall ubuntu, will I have problems reconnecting to my existing RAID array?
[18:01] <hylian> gp5st, ohh, my bad. I thought you had installed a gui program for it. so you want to know what gui9 programs are available then?
[18:01] <glebihan> fosburg, I don't understand... where do you want to see the thumbnails ? using which protocol ?
[18:01] <Firefishe> Does anyone know why the Additional Drivers dialog list a card as 'activated but not in use?'
[18:01] <triplc> hi all
[18:01] <jarnos> glebihan, yes, the lines concerning the swap parition were commented out. But I guess it should use the same space for encrypted swap, as well.
[18:01] <gp5st> hylian: i installed an applet, which i guess in the strictest sense is a gui program.  Right clicking on the bar and adding an applet doesn't show the randr applet in the list of available ones
[18:02] <fosburg> on my grand daughters computer--she is working on a slide show
[18:02] <vikram> is it necessary to give symbolic link while compiling kernel .... i watched it in many tutorials .....
[18:03] <hylian> gp5st, i see. what is the name of the applet.
[18:03] <gp5st> as i said in the inital message: gnome-randr-applet
[18:03] <fosburg> I have 2 gigbytes of photos on ubumtu One
[18:03] <glebihan> jarnos, the physical space will be the same, not the device
[18:03] <triplc> how to get gvfs installed correctly? i unstall ubuntu 10.04 minimal, then "apt-get install nautilus gvfs-backends gvfs-fuse" but nautilus does not work correctly. run "ps -e | grep gvfs" show nothing. in nautilus, the "trash:///" "network:///" do not work
[18:04] <triplc> please give me a guide, link or something. i search Google but cannot have answer
[18:05] <zteam> hylian, okey, I just looked throught Xorg.conf and I can't see any "default monitor" however one of my monitors is named "monitor 0"
[18:05] <Jacruth2> ey guys, is there any way to deactive the encription of /home/user/ in Ubuntu?
[18:05] <[THC]AcidRain> im having problems connecting to a port.  would ubuntu possibly be blocking it for any odd reason at all?
[18:05] <fosburg> photos come up quickly when I go to the cloud  but when sent by email confirmation it is not shown as thumbnails
[18:05] <hylian> zteam, that is perfect, because then the card will know what screen resolution to use, and x won't crash on the second monitor.
[18:06] <zteam> hylian, and it doesn't seem to add my TV either
[18:06] <jarnos> glebihan, I'll try rebooting.
[18:06] <anonissimus> I am trying to create a 5TB volume but it only returns failed to add partition
[18:06] <vikram> is it necessary to give symbolic link while compiling kernel .... i watched it in many tutorials .....
[18:07] <wildbat> anonissimus: are you using MBR? what fs are you trying to use?
[18:07] <llutz> [THC]AcidRain: sudo iptables -L -nv               should tell
[18:07] <triplc> how to get gvfs installed correctly? i unstall ubuntu 10.04 minimal, then "apt-get install nautilus gvfs-backends gvfs-fuse" but nautilus does not work correctly. run "ps -e | grep gvfs" show nothing. in nautilus, the "trash:///" "network:///" do not work. i tried google but did not get answer. (repost)
[18:07] <hylian> zteam, hmm. you may have to use nvidia's control panel to add it. if not you will have to do it manually, unless this is now a non issue, i would see if things have improved first, and if not, then start to work on adding that second monitor.
[18:08] <[THC]AcidRain> hmmm nothing
[18:08] <anonissimus> wildbat: using the gui, trying to use ext4
[18:08] <Jordan_U> !details | anonissimus
[18:08] <zteam> hylian, will do, thank you *very much* for your help man :-D
[18:09] <hylian> zteam, glad to be of service. :)
[18:09] <hylian> gp5st, did you log out or reboot?
[18:09] <anonissimus> I tried to create an extended partition first but that did not solve it either
[18:09] <zteam> :-)
[18:10] <hylian> zteam, i have no nose :)
[18:10] <vikram> hiiii everyone ....... tell me ... , is it necessary to give symbolic link while compiling kernel .... i watched it in many tutorials .....
[18:10] <ska> What do I do if I need a more current version of Adobe-flash ?
[18:10] <ska> flashplugin-installer?
[18:10] <llutz> [THC]AcidRain: you are sure theres something listening on that port? what error do you get on connect?
[18:10] <hylian> ska, flashplugin-nonfree.
[18:11] <gp5st> hylian: why would I do that? it's an applet:-p
[18:11] <jarnos> glebihan, free shows swap total 0 still. I have "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0" in /etc/fstab.
[18:11] <ska> hylian: its already installed. Do I need to run it somehow?
[18:11] <gp5st> hylian: no, i havn't. i'll have to check it once i do
[18:11] <zteam> hylian, By the way, do you know if there is some way to use Clone-mode with Nvidia-driver like in Windows?
[18:12] <jarnos> glebihan, but now GParted knows the swap partition as swap.
[18:12] <Heath> So I have not been on my server in a while and I have 137 packages that need updated. Is there any chance that updating from such an out of date state may cause issues?
[18:12] <hylian> zteam, not off hand, could do some research. i am using a simple built in vid card with one monitor. I am not as nvidia knowledgeable as our gamer community is.
[18:12] <jarnos> glebihan, linux-swap to be precise.
[18:12] <glebihan> jarnos, then if you don't need an encrypted partition, you should swapon the corresponding device
[18:13] <vikram> is it necessary to give symbolic link while compiling kernel .... i watched it in many tutorials .....
[18:13] <zteam> hylian, okey just wondering
[18:13] <hylian> ska, it's designed to be automatically installed into any browser that can use gecko style plugins, i.e. firefox, chrome, epiphany, etc.
[18:13] <ska> hylian: For some reason, my flashplugin-nonfree package has only documentation.
[18:14] <glebihan> jarnos, otherwise follow the section about swap in that guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto to setup your encrypted swap
[18:14] <hylian> ska, did you install it via synaptic or apt-get?
[18:14] <zteam> hylian, Personally I think clone-mode is supierior if you just wanna watch some movies on the screen
[18:14] <ska> hylian: not sure. maybe aptitude
[18:14] <zteam> hylian, :-)
[18:15] <hylian> zteam, it probably would be. if i had a life and played vid games or watched more than one movie every thee months, i probably would like clone mode too.
[18:15] <anonissimus> Job: Create new partition on device ‘/dev/sda’
[18:15] <anonissimus> Failed to add partition ‘New Partition’ to device ‘/dev/sda’.
[18:15] <anonissimus> Create new partition on device ‘/dev/sda’: Error
[18:15] <anonissimus> Create a new partition (5.46 TiB, ext3) on ‘/dev/sda’: Error
[18:15] <anonissimus> Jordan_U: that is all I get
[18:15] <zteam> hylian, hehe :p
[18:16] <hylian> ska, then i would suggest going to terminal (control alt t) and then typing sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree. and then sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree. and keep an eye out for any error reports.
[18:16] <zteam> hylian, really hope nouveau will bring us clone-mode some day
[18:16] <hylian> ska also before the apt-get commands, sudo apt-get update
[18:16] <zteam> hylian, :-)
[18:16] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | anonissimus
[18:16] <wildbat> anonissimus: that's ehy i asked ~ you are useing MBR ~ MBR style partition table don't support partition> 2TiB
[18:16] <wildbat> s/ehy/why/
[18:17] <Jordan_U> anonissimus: What application are you using?
[18:17] <anonissimus> ah, what is the alternative and how do I change
[18:17] <anonissimus> kde partition manager
[18:17] <user82> can "lsmod" sort alphabetically?
[18:17] <hylian> zteam, yeah, i would probably by 6 monitors then, and set up a mini movie theatre,
[18:17] <escott> anonissimus, make sure you are using gpt
[18:17] <Jordan_U> user82: lsmod | sort
[18:17] <san_1989> iam going to build a device driver for usb-usb bridge cable in ubuntu...any suggestions?
[18:18] <user82> thx
[18:18] <Jordan_U> user82: You're welcome.
[18:18] <zteam> hylian, haha :-), have to restart my computer now, thanks again for all your help :-)
[18:18] <hylian> Jordan_U, your my hero dude. thanks for being so helpful.
[18:18] <Jordan_U> hylian: You're welcome.
[18:18] <hylian> ztema no prob bob :)
[18:19] <konsumer> Question: I'm on Ubuntu 11.04 and looking for new themes. Is there a safe place to look for them?
[18:19] <Jordan_U> anonissimus: Are there any partitions on the drive currently?
[18:19] <rww> !pm > san_1989
[18:19] <hylian> konsumer, there are some themes available in the ubuntu software center, i would start there.
[18:19] <anonissimus> Jordan_U: nope, newwly initiated raid
[18:20] <konsumer> Oh, nice
[18:20] <konsumer> didnt think to check there
[18:20] <brig> anyone know how to resize with gstreamer???
[18:20] <hylian> konsumer, but if that doesn't fill your fancy, then you're gonna have to ask someone else, because i'm not a huge themer. my ubuntu looks like i just installed it.
[18:20] <escott> anonissimus, /dev/sda would not be a raid device /dev/md would be a raid device
[18:21] <Jordan_U> anonissimus: Try using GParted, and start by creating a GUID Partition Table (GPT).
[18:21] <Kamikaze> hey guys, recently i have download "Me TV" program but disliked it, i uninstalled it, but icon left in my "Media Apps" as i click on it, it makes no action and no reaction because it has been removed, so how can i remove the icon from "Media Apps" ?
[18:21] <konsumer> Thanks for your help hylian
[18:21] <g00se> i've got Lucid running live. My intention is to try to eliminate a hardware (graphics) problem. I'm hoping there's some way, instead of freezing the display, on error, X can be taken down so i can inspect some error log. Is there a way?
[18:21] <konsumer> i was just looking for a dark theme
[18:21] <konsumer> found one :)
[18:21] <hylian> gp5st, sorry man, i cant find anything on that prog. if you alt-f2 and then type in gnome-randr-applet, what happens?
[18:21] <anonissimus> escott: I can assure you this raid array is showing itself as /dev/sda as there is no other 5.46TB available
[18:22] <escott> anonissimus, i guess its a hardware raid card then
[18:22] <Jordan_U> anonissimus: Is this a true hardware RAID device?
[18:22] <jarnos> glebihan, I wonder why my fstab has /dev/mapper/cryptoswap1 when the guide tells /dev/mapper/cryptoswap
[18:22] <gp5st> hylian: it can't find the program
[18:22] <Kamikaze> escott, sorry for bothering recently i have download "Me TV" program but disliked it, i uninstalled it, but icon left in my "Media Apps" as i click on it, it makes no action and no reaction because it has been removed, so how can i remove the icon from "Media Apps"
[18:22] <anonissimus> escott: it sure is
[18:23] <hylian> konsumer, no prob bob ;)
[18:23] <gp5st> apt-get install says i'm at the newest versuon
[18:23] <glebihan> jarnos, that's a choice, you could make it cryptoswap1 if you wanted to
[18:23] <hylian> gp5st, ok, let's go another route, maybe we can find another program to do a similar task? or do you need this to be available at all times on the app bar?
[18:24] <cr0wd> hallo zusammen
[18:24] <escott> Kamikaze, if apt installed the .desktop file then be sure to purge the application. if not you could remove it manually. if you added it with alacarte remove it there
[18:24] <cr0wd> i mean hi all :)
[18:24] <anonissimus> escott: Jordan_U it does not allow me to pick gpt
[18:24] <escott> anonissimus, is that how these cards work? you put a partition table on top of the raid device?
[18:24] <escott> anonissimus, install and use gdisk then
[18:25] <rob__> hello cr0wd
[18:25] <anonissimus> escott: ok recreated partition table, sorry for that
[18:26] <Jordan_U> anonissimus: GParted should allow you to select GPT.
[18:26] <hylian> gp5st, so when you right click the top bar, and choose add to panel, it just simply does not exist...
[18:27] <san_1989> iam going to build a device driver for usb-usb bridge cable in ubuntu...any suggestions?
[18:28] <gp5st> hylian: yeah
[18:28] <nickgaw> is there a way to download a preinstalled version of ubuntu for virtual box?
[18:29] <konsumer> question, if GTK2 default in Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[18:29] <konsumer> is*
[18:29] <konsumer> Desktop edition
[18:30] <escott> nickgaw, there are some amazon ec2 images
[18:30] <megakacktus> Ubuntu was better before Unity.
[18:30] <vikram> how can I switched off my ATI graphics card ...... to save lapi's power ?
[18:30] <rww> megakacktus: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. #ubuntu-offtopic is available for all your Unity-ranting needs.
[18:30] <escott> vikram, vga_switcheroo
[18:31] <rww> konsumer: yes
[18:31] <nickgaw> will those work with virtual box?
[18:31] <rww> nickgaw: there is no official Ubuntu virtualbox image. From a security point of view, you're better off rolling your own, since it only takes about 20 minutes.
[18:32] <vikram> escott : command not found
[18:32] <escott> nickgaw, no idea. at some level any image will work
[18:32] <escott> vikram, you have to install it
[18:32] <escott> vikram, and it may not work for you at all
[18:32] <ska> hylian: It says that its lilsted but it cant install it. For some reason. Maybe I need to activate unvierse again.
[18:33] <escott> nickgaw, why not just install it like normal? why do you want an image?
[18:33] <konsumer> rww, thanks :D
[18:33] <nickgaw> after the screen where it asks you for your account information and I hit forward is that when the installation on the hard drive starts or are there more dialogs to go threw I am using 11.04?
[18:33] <konsumer> i found this really cool site for themes based on gtk2
[18:33] <vikram> i have install it ... > it is showing me catalyst control centre .......
[18:33] <konsumer> looks like i need to learn how to install icons as well :D
[18:33] <konsumer> little by little, i will master this Linux Ubuntu :)
[18:33] <rww> nickgaw: there are a few more, but it pauses to set up the partitions first
[18:34] <hylian> ska, it could be in the universal repos... i know that when installing ubuntu, i don't have to mess with the repos to get it to install, so it should be in universe.
[18:34] <konsumer> i purchased 6 books on Linux and Debian yesterday
[18:34] <rww> nickgaw: oh, wait, account information. never mind, no more.
[18:34] <konsumer> i will be Open Source from now on :) Windows can go duck it :D
[18:34] <konsumer> suck*
[18:36] <vikram> escott : i cant found any option in catalyst control centre .......
[18:36] <vooze> kondores: welcome to the club :)
[18:36] <nickgaw> I am totally blind and am using orca but after the account screen no matter what I try no speech is spoken just key presses and the dialog about the keyboard has caused orca to stop speaking before it reads the entire dialog I have tried the 32 and 64 bit images with no luck.  Is this a known problem in the live installer and can I do an install threw ssh using my other debian linux system on the virtual box one?
[18:36] <escott> vikram, i doubt there is one
[18:37] <ska> hylian: http://pastebin.com/fkzmK1Ue
[18:37] <vikram> escott : any command line tool to control graphics card .....
[18:37] <hylian> gp5st, the only other option i can see would be to go into the system menu, under preferences and drag the monitors icon or the nvidia/ati icons frm there to your top nav bar, which then would atleast give you quick access to it. sorry man that's the best i can do. as a side note you might try removing and then re-installing the app.
[18:37] <escott> nickgaw, good reason. you should file a bug on that. you might try the alternate installer if you have a braille keyboard
[18:37] <gp5st> hylian: it's ok
[18:37] <hylian> ska that once again syas flashpluing-installer, it's flashplugin-nonfree.
[18:38] <ska> hylian: I think its similar
[18:38] <dimago> hello people
[18:38] <dimago> can anyone help me?
[18:38] <escott> vikram, no idea. the vga_switcheroo can switch some systems to integrated graphics and disable the ati
[18:39] <dimago> Im trying to use evolution with Exchange 2010 MAPI
[18:39] <hylian> ska, no, the flashplugin-nonfree is directly from adobe, the relest of deals. not that you couldn't use something else, i just have had the least amount of problems with the nonfree version.
[18:39] <dimago> anyone have this works?
[18:39] <nickgaw> I am using a normal computer keyboard how do I file a bug?
[18:39] <ska> aptitude show flashplugin-nonfree
[18:39] <ska> No current or candidate version found for flashplugin-nonfree
[18:39] <trism> hylian: flashplugin-nonfree is just a transitional package that installs flashplugin-installer
[18:40] <escott> nickgaw, create an account at https://launchpad.net/
[18:40] <hylian> trism, hmm, interesting. i have had better luck with the nonfree version, but i can sum that up as dumb luck too.
[18:40] <hylian> ska, trism, i will be right back, i was updating my system, need to reboot
[18:41] <user82> does a (kernel) "make rpm" work on ubuntu?
[18:41] <escott> nickgaw, if you cant get around the installer issues check with your local LUG (linux users group) and I'm sure someone will be willing to help/could create an image for you
[18:41] <dimago> anyone have evolution working with MAPI exchange 2010?
[18:42] <hylian> im back
[18:42] <ska> hylian: So i need to DL from Adobe? I think so.
[18:42] <nickgaw> Are there ways or directions to rebuild the ubuntu image so I could build one that automatically starts orca?
[18:42] <Kingsy> anyone in here use dmraid?
[18:43] <riot_> could anyon tell me how to enable an extern mic @ ubuntu? Please PM me if so
[18:44] <hylian> ska, maybe i know less about this than i thought. you could download it from adobe. i personally have never had a problem with installing the nonfree version.. sorry i wasn't more helpful.
[18:44] <oCean> nickgaw: actually, there is this download site with pre-built images, including ubuntu: http://virtualboxes.org/images/ubuntu/
[18:44] <quizme> i just ssh'ed into my box, but my home directory is encrypted.  how do i undo the encryption?
[18:44] <quizme> or just turn it off
[18:45] <usr13> riot_: May not need to. Just plug it in and run alsamixer and see that mic chanel(s) are turned up and not muted.
[18:45] <riot_> Does every channel has to be enabled?
[18:45] <usr13> no
[18:46] <vikram> escott : but switching it off will it increase my battery backup time ???
[18:46] <linux_noob> edbian, are you still here?
[18:46] <usr13> riot_: Only ones you need.
[18:46] <iridium> riot_, if its an usb mic, or external, try: alsamixer -c 1
[18:46] <edbian> linux_noob: yes
[18:46] <escott> nickgaw, well the good news is that if 11.04 works starting orca shouldn't be too difficult even by touch... login wait a few seconds, hit the windows key, type terminal enter, orca & enter
[18:46] <escott> vikram, i dont follow
[18:47] <riot_> alsamixer -c 1
[18:47] <riot_> eh
[18:47] <riot_> doesnt work
[18:47] <vikram> escott : but switching graphics card off will it increase my battery backup time ???
[18:47] <escott> nickgaw, you actually dont even need the terminal just alt-f2 then orca
[18:47] <riot_> somethin like wrong card number
[18:47] <escott> vikram, you mean battery life? it should
[18:47] <iridium> then with alsamixer you're ok
[18:47] <iridium> :)
[18:47] <linux_noob> edbian, damn, i dont know how to reply to you, but when i disconnect, the auto eth0 option when i click on the connections is not there anymore, i can only connect by hotkey...
[18:47] <riot_> Frontmic = extern Mic?
[18:48] <iridium> likely
[18:48] <Tygre> Hello everybody.  Anybody care to help a newbie out w/ a grub issue?
[18:48] <nickgaw> when creating an account there is a image verification and the audio version is hardly understandable is there another way to file a bug?
[18:48] <edbian> linux_noob: replying to me in here is working fine :)
[18:48] <riot_> still doesnt work
[18:48] <edbian> linux_noob: yes, is that an issue?
[18:49] <iridium> make sure that is unmutted, press M
[18:49] <Tygre> I've done a cursory forum search and haven't been able to find my issue resolved
[18:49] <Kingsy> since I have booted ubuntu my hd light has been on constantly.. is there a way of seeing what its doing?
[18:49] <Tygre> maybe my forum and/or google-fu is weak
[18:50] <linux_noob> edbian, so i just type your name with a comma!? :/   about the auto eth0 option, i dont think it would be too bad since ill just have to remember to use the hotkey to reconnect
[18:50] <jk-cheng> hei geng...
[18:50] <vikram> escott : whatever .... how it will effect ?
[18:50] <Firefishe> When I log into unity, the panel on the top is not available; also, there is no sidebar
[18:50] <jk-cheng> any1 here done ltsp b4???
[18:50] <riot_> god damn
[18:50] <riot_> i disabled my sound somehow
[18:50] <riot_> imma such a noob
[18:51] <escott> nickgaw, lovely.... have you dropped in on #ubuntu-accessibility?
[18:51] <linux_noob> firefishe, before you login there are options on the bottom of the screen, may have been changed
[18:51] <`blackmk4> is there a reason services won't start on boot with ubuntu 11.04, even after manually update-rc.d-ing them?
[18:51] <Firefishe> linux_noob: Before I log in?  You mean in kdm/gdm?
[18:51] <edbian> linux_noob: When you say my name at all in a message it highlights it for me (just like I'm doing for you).  This is very normal practice.  I don't think I could fix your problem.  Using ifdown / ifup is an alternative method that to using the gui.  You can't send commands to the network manager gui except clicking things
[18:51] <edbian> Firefishe: yes, click your name first to make thems how up
[18:52] <escott> vikram, IF you have intel graphics in your chip, then it would switch to intel from ati, but i dont even know if you have that. otherwise you are at the mercy of what options you see in catalyst control center
[18:52] <Firefishe> edbian: What options are we talking about?
[18:52] <Whitesquall> л
[18:52] <Whitesquall> sorry
[18:52] <edbian> Firefishe: the 'session'
[18:53] <Tygre> Can anybody help me out w/ a grub problem?
[18:53] <wildbat> !anyone | Tygre
[18:53] <Kingsy> since I have booted ubuntu my hd light has been on constantly.. is there a way of seeing what its doing?
[18:53] <linux_noob> edbian, ah, thank you for all the help mate, really appreciate it, plus i learned a bit!
[18:53] <jk-cheng> all: should i use gui server or non-gui server for LTSP thin client???
[18:53] <Tygre> Thanks wildbat
[18:53] <Firefishe> edbian:  I use kdm (as I mainly use kde) for my login manager.  I have an arrow that allows me select the session.  I just select `ubuntu' and I get the unity desktop without the unity sidebar and topbar
[18:53] <`blackmk4> is there a reason services won't start on boot with ubuntu 11.04, even after manually update-rc.d-ing them?
[18:54] <hylian> !details
[18:55] <jk-cheng> blackmk4: did u check on log file to the services that done start??? can it be restart manually???
[18:55] <Firefishe> edbian: I have these session listings:  Ubuntu, Ubuntu (Safe Mode), Ubuntu Classic, Ubuntu Classic (Safe Mode).  Does that help?
[18:55] <edbian> Firefishe: I dont' know the problem (but yes that was the settings I was talking about)
[18:55] <edbian> linux_noob: sure :D
[18:56] <Benkinooby> here i am, whoop whoop! :)
[18:56] <vn> heya, just installed ubuntu and I misclicked at the package step, I didn,t install anything while i wanted to install LAMP, do I have to do something like apt-get install php5 apache2 mysql-server or theres a generic lamp package name?
[18:56] <Tygre> My question is this:  I dual-boot win7 and ubuntu 11.04.   They're housed on different drives and I use grub to pick which OS to boot into.  I also have 2 external usb hard drives (just backup & media storage).  Grub gives me an error (no such device) if these external drives are on when I boot the computer.  Is there a way I can make that stop (besides turning my drives off/on every time i want to switch OS's)?
[18:57] <rww> !lamp | vn
[18:57] <riot_> how to check if my mic works?
[18:57] <rww> vn: in short, you can do either. that page has the details. I personally do not recomment tasksel due to bad previous experiences.
[18:57] <komputes> riot_: open sound preferences, input tab
[18:57] <vn> rww: ok thanks
[18:57] <Benkinooby> riot_: do you knave skype installed?
[18:57] <komputes> riot_: theres a meter that shows
[18:57] <komputes> I am trying to find every wiki page which points to HardwareSupport, does anyone know how to get a list of pages that refer/link to HardwareSupport?
[18:58] <riot_> ye actually its all coz of skype
[18:58] <riot_> :D
[18:58] <riot_> so i check sound pref. first
[18:58] <rww> komputes: on help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com?
[18:58] <riot_> coz skype is still beta
[18:58] <komputes> rww: wiki.
[18:58] <Benkinooby> riot_: there is the "echo call" for checks like that in skype
[18:58] <jk-cheng> use google talk on Empathy... better the skype on linux
[18:59] <wildbat> Tygre: check boot squence ? may be you booted the wrong drive if they are on .?
[18:59] <Tygre> wildbat:  grub works fine when these 'extra' drives are not powered up
[19:00] <Tygre> they don't have any essential OS files on them
[19:00] <rww> komputes: one sec, I'm looking up the URL for bypassing redirects
[19:00] <riot_> restart brb
[19:00] <tdn> I am trying to enable connection sharing as described here: http://blogs.perl.org/users/smylers/2011/08/ssh-productivity-tips.html -- I have added "ControlMaster auto" and "ControlPath /tmp/ssh_mux_%h_%p_%r" to my .ssh/config, however, I do not see any file created in /tmp, nor do I notice any speedup in connections. I do not think this setting has any effect. If I check netstat -tn, I see that there is created a new tcp connection each time I ssh to th
[19:00] <tdn> How do I fix this?
[19:00] <Tygre> when they are on, i don't even get an option to choose an OS, just an error "no such device" followed by a long string of letters and numbers
[19:00] <komputes> rww: append ?edit or something
[19:01] <wildbat> Tygre: it is still possible to have grub install on the usb and you yet boot them in BIOS
[19:01] <m_fulder> hey
[19:01] <komputes> rww: can you find the pages that point to it from that page itself?
[19:01] <Tygre> wildbat: \I'll check real quick.
[19:01] <jk-cheng> Tygre: yup... that how live usb work...
[19:02] <m_fulder> I've just installed vsftpd on my new ubuntu comp. and when starting it up I get the message vsftpd start/running, process XXXX but then when I look in the process list on "htop" I can't see any process running at PID XXXX ? and while trying to connect to my FTP server with filezilla I get the error message: ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server ... so I guess vsftpd isn't started at all? any ideas how I can check/solve that?
[19:03] <jk-cheng> m_fulder: go to root then "ps ax | grep vsftpd"...
[19:04] <riot_> yea
[19:04] <riot_> it works
[19:04] <riot_> finally
[19:04] <riot_> but much too silent
[19:04] <Heath> So I have not been on my server in a while and I have 137 packages that need updated. Is there any chance that updating from such an out of date state may cause issues?
[19:04] <Kingsy> anyone in here had any problems with kworker keeping the hd light on constantly?
[19:05] <rww> komputes: I think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport?action=info&hitcounts=1 might show it, but the wiki is being slow and not showing it to me.
[19:05] <Hyperbyte> Heath, it shouldn't.
[19:05] <Tygre> Ok, I just looked, my external drives are nowhere in my boot sequence, any other ideas?
[19:05] <m_fulder> jk-cheng yeah then I can see it's running...http://pastebin.com/cp15LrYN
[19:05] <jk-cheng> Heath: if u hv development server then u can test on in first...
[19:06] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Tygre
[19:07] <m_fulder> jk-cheng but still I can't connect to my server with same error message in filezilla :S
[19:07] <jk-cheng> m_fulder: so it is running... then u need to look at your vsftpd configuration...
[19:07] <m_fulder> jk-cheng it's the default config I haven
[19:07] <m_fulder> 't changed anything *
[19:08] <Heath> Do you need to restart after an update?
[19:08] <Kingsy> according to iotop its read/writing to my hd constantly at 70 - 100MB/s wtf?
[19:09] <komputes> rww: yep, nothing for me yet
[19:10] <Jordan_U> Heath: Only if update-manager tells you that you need to, and even then everything will continue working f, the update just won't be complete (you won't be using the latest kernel with a security fix).
[19:10] <jk-cheng> m_fulder: u connect from same host or the vsftp in 1 host and filezilla on other???
[19:11] <tekk> hey guys i've got a Nvidia Geforce 210
[19:11] <m_fulder> jk-cheng I connect from different IPs and comps
[19:11] <tekk> trying to get audio to come out of HDMI
[19:11] <tekk> http://pastebin.com/eLyzTqMf
[19:11] <llutz> m_fulder: sudo netstat -tlpen| grep ":21"
[19:11] <jk-cheng> Heath: mostly u need to restart if there are update on kernel level... user level don't need restart
[19:11] <m_fulder> jk-cheng i.e. the FTP server is on another computer then the one Im connecting to it from *
[19:11] <tekk> i've now got aplay to work on plughw:0,3 but it has no volume... the channel in alsamixer is on high
[19:12] <m_fulder> llutz I don't get anything though I've opened both port 20 and 21 to my servercomp
[19:12] <m_fulder> and forwared it to my server comp*
[19:12] <jk-cheng> m_fulder: follow llutz command... check if the firewall on the server is blocking the connection....
[19:13] <llutz> m_fulder: sudo netstat -tlpen| grep ":21"   on the machine running vstftp  has to give something back if it runs
[19:13] <Benkinooby> riot_: use alsamixer in commandline to check all your volumes+
[19:13] <m_fulder> llutz: but it doesn't :P
[19:14] <llutz> m_fulder: "pgrep vsftpd"
[19:14] <escott> tekk,  have you used alsamixer to adjust volume there are often controls in it that dont appear in pulse
[19:14] <Benkinooby> riot_: you have to press f5 or f6 too see all input and output volumes
[19:14] <komputes> rww: proxy error
[19:14] <tekk> escott, yeah i have no pulseaudio at all i don't think
[19:14] <tekk> and i have 1 device in alsamixer, the SPDIF device (which is HDMI in this case i believe) and its unmuted but volume is 00 (as is normal for SPDIF right?)
[19:14] <Benkinooby> tekk: press f5 or f6 in alsmicer to see all volume controllers
[19:14] <m_fulder> llutz nothing: http://pastebin.com/zCYwKkcm
[19:15] <tekk> f5 for all yeah
[19:15] <llutz> m_fulder: your vsftpd doesn't run. check /var/log/vsftpd.log
[19:15] <tekk> and there is just one
[19:15] <axisys> escott: you still around?
[19:15] <tekk> no audio card in this system... only the graphics card
[19:15] <ska> Anyone running 10.04 have problems seeing flash on this page: http://www.absolutecharm.com/FullMoonInn_Launch.html
[19:15] <tekk> Card: HDA NVidia
[19:15] <escott> axisys, yes
[19:15] <ska> ?
[19:15] <tekk> SPDIF on 00
[19:15] <m_fulder> llutz don't have any vsftpd log inthere
[19:15] <ska> I tried updating my flash, but that didnt seem to work at all.
[19:16] <escott> tekk, i have no idea what is normal for spdif. ive never used it
[19:16] <axisys> escott: so I am kind a figuring out how to prove the "auditors" that my disk is encrypted
[19:16] <tekk> this is annoying me... bought this card purposely for this
[19:16] <m_fulder> I*
[19:16] <axisys> escott: I think a vnc access and then click the disk utiltity (smartmontool) works pretty good..
[19:16] <axisys> escott: except I do not see a vnserver by default.. any suggestion?
[19:16] <llutz> m_fulder: check /var/log/syslog  or messages or daemon.log   for any related stuff (sudo grep -ri vsftp /var/log/* )
[19:17] <axisys> escott: since mount does not show about the disk.. I am dealing with "auditors" here ;_0
[19:17] <escott> axisys, sounds decent. you want something that says ENCRYPTED in big fat bold letters. you might just make a static image in gimp and show them that
[19:17] <Kingsy> can someone offer some help? I have a weird issue of kworker hammering my hd constantly. apparently its a "kernel bug" umm I am unsure as of what to do when google gives me an answer like that
[19:17] <axisys> escott: lol
[19:18] <oCean> komputes: you were looking for backlinks in wiki.ubuntu.com? http://moinmo.in/BackLinks says it should do a textsearch when clicking pagetitle (which it does not for the wiki)
[19:18] <axisys> escott: but disk utility shows it is encrypted.. so that is fine.. but would be nice to show them over vnc.. what is a good one you recommend..?
[19:18] <escott> !vnc | axisys
[19:18] <axisys> escott: doh!
[19:18] <axisys> escott: thanks :-)
[19:18] <escott> axisys, ive never actually used any
[19:19] <ska> Can someone check this for me: http://www.absolutecharm.com/FullMoonInn_Launch.html   ? Thanks.
[19:19] <Kingsy> curious, is no-one answering because they don't know or because I am asking the wrong questions? cos this is a worrying problem to have with a FRESH installation of ubuntu
[19:19] <tekk> gonna try ubuntu instead of xbmclive
[19:19] <tekk> see if that helps
[19:19] <tekk> :(
[19:19] <m_fulder> llutz yeah in daemon.log I got these errors: http://pastebin.com/QUjC6SXL
[19:19] <riot_> Benkinooby: it worked, ty very much :)
[19:20] <escott> Kingsy, kworkers are generic kernel work dispatch threads. theoretically it could be a bug, but its more likely that some other application is just queuing up lots of work
[19:20] <Kingsy> escott: is there a way to find out specifically what is happening?
[19:21] <escott> Kingsy, you could use some tracing tools, or you could just kill running processes until it stops
[19:21] <BluesKaj> tekk, pulseaudio installed ?
[19:21] <wh1zz0> My question is this please. Why is 10.10 not available on the ubuntu.com? Does this mean that 10.4 is better than 10.10?
[19:21] <Firefishe> edbian: Well, it appears that compiz was fudging up my unity environment.  I enabled the unity workaround in compiz's settings dialog, and it seems to be working now, wobbly windows and all ;)
[19:21] <tekk> BluesKaj, no i don't think so
[19:21] <llutz> m_fulder: check config for typos
[19:21] <wh1zz0> Is 10.4 more stable than 10.10?
[19:22] <tekk> i've just updated the Nvidia drivers... gonna test again, but i dout it'll work
[19:22] <edbian> Firefishe: glad to hear it! :D
[19:22] <BluesKaj>  trek , checked your alsamixer settings?
[19:22] <Kingsy> escott: I have a idea of what it might be, does ubuntu rebuild fakeraid drives automatically? cos when I boot up my raid controller says the drive needs to be rebuilt so if ubuntu does that automatically then it could be that..
[19:22] <rww> wh1zz0: the general thought is that most people are going to use either 11.04 (the latest stable version) or 10.04 (the latest LTS), so there's no point in confusing people with more alternatives. If you want 10.10 ISOs, see http://releases.ubuntu.com/.
[19:23] <BluesKaj> er tekk  oops read my last post above
[19:23] <Kingsy> escott: I was going to try and get dmraid to do it, but looking at this kworker going CRAZY could it be its happening behind the scenes?
[19:23] <tekk> BluesKaj, yeah, checked alsamixer, recompiled latest alsa-drivers
[19:23] <tekk> i get no error... which is teh strange thing
[19:23] <Firefishe> edbian: I thought I'd repost for the sake of the community here:  It's important when in compiz's settings dialog, and activating the unity workaround feature, that you pay careful attention to what the pop up dialogs are asking.  There are some things that can't be on when using a unity/compiz combination.
[19:23] <tekk> it like... pretends to work, but no audio is coming out
[19:23] <wh1zz0> Hmm.. I see
[19:23] <wh1zz0> rww: Thanks
[19:23] <Firefishe> edbian: Which is why I couldn't see the panel.
[19:24] <edbian> Firefishe: I think that's the case even without unity but I might be wrong.
[19:24] <edbian> Firefishe: Can you be more specific?
[19:24] <escott> Kingsy, it should. mdadm will show status with mdadm --status. i imagine dmraid has something similar
[19:24] <BluesKaj> tekk, which audio player are you using?
[19:24] <tekk> aplay
[19:24] <tekk> aplay -D plughw:0,3 test.wav
[19:25] <tekk> http://pastebin.com/BSdBPru8
[19:25] <Kingsy> escott: well its fake raid, so wouldnt it be dmraid?
[19:25] <tekk> correct me if i'm wrong... but any geforce 210 card with hdmi should output audio from it right?
[19:25] <Kingsy> escott: oh ok
[19:25] <komputes> oCean: I searched linkto:HardwareSupport - now I'm all like "that's it?"
[19:25] <tekk> especially if i'm seeing it in alsamixer
[19:26] <oCean> komputes: I just tried that myself, that's apparently all :)
[19:26] <BluesKaj> tekk, speaker-test -c2 -Ddefault -t wav
[19:26] <komputes> oCean: thx
[19:26] <oCean> komputes: sure, np
[19:26] <tekk> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[19:26] <tekk> using default device right?
[19:26] <m_fulder> llutz I can't find anything .. here's my log: http://pastebin.com/tb4G7wat
[19:27] <tekk> trying wtih speaker-test -c2 -Dplughw:0,3 -t wav now
[19:27] <m_fulder> config *
[19:28] <llutz> m_fulder: paste: line 116    does it really have no # in front?
[19:28] <Firefishe> edbian:   I began in an Ubuntu Classic session, entered the CompizConfig Settings Manager, selected Ubuntu Unity Plugin, after which there were some pop-up dialog boxes asking me various questions about some currently active plugins that were interfering with unity.  I simply read them carefully, and selected the appropriate reponse, but I had to read and think about it carefully.
[19:28] <MathiasR> exit
[19:28] <Kingsy> does anyone in here use dmraid?
[19:28] <Firefishe> edbian: I hope that clarifies it a bit better.
[19:28] <m_fulder> llutz omg yeah -_-
[19:28] <Kingsy> I cant find an option to check to see if its running
[19:28] <BluesKaj> what soundcard is listed in the alsamixer upper left , tekk ?
[19:28] <edbian> Firefishe: I understand that.  What plugins cause a problem with unity?
[19:28] <tekk> HDA NVidia
[19:28] <llutz> m_fulder: fix and try again
[19:28] <Firefishe> edbian: Oh, then I logged out of the Ubuntu Classic session, and back under Ubuntu.
[19:28] <edbian> Firefishe: Do you remember?
[19:29] <Firefishe> edbian: Unfortunately, no.
[19:29] <Firefishe> edbian: wait...
[19:29] <edbian> Firefishe: waiting...
[19:29] <m_fulder> llutz thank you!! :D
[19:30] <llutz> m_fulder: does it work now?
[19:30] <m_fulder> llutz yeah :D
[19:30] <sponzor> hi. i m installing ubuntu and i got unable to install grub in dev sda. so i change it to /dev/md0 i got the same problem ( i put boot to raid 1) what should i do?
[19:30] <Firefishe> edbian:  I believe one plugin had to do with clicking on the left side of the pane--which has to do with the unity panel not being interfered with
[19:30] <BluesKaj> tekk, which chip is listed there
[19:30] <llutz> m_fulder: fine ;)
[19:30] <m_fulder> llutz sry for beeing stupid hehe :P
[19:30] <edbian> Firefishe: Ahh, yes I see
[19:30] <tekk> hang on
[19:30] <llutz> m_fulder: its always the simpelst thing
[19:31] <m_fulder> :)
[19:31] <escott> sponzor, install it to sda and sdb
[19:32] <escott> sponzor, you can't install to md0 because the bios doesnt understand md0, but you want two copies so put it on both
[19:32] <sponzor> i did that /dev/sda /dev/sdb the same error
[19:32] <djigit> Hi to all! Sorry for my English. I can not to write on the Russian chanel. I have a problem. When I start the live CD 11.04 or 10.04 I have no wired network connection. Connection is OK in windows. Previously, it worked in Ubuntu. What could happen?
[19:32] <escott> sponzor, what does your error look like
[19:32] <Firefishe> edbian:  One other thing I should ask:  Does unity have a specific window manager it uses?  Compiz isn't it's standard win manager, is it/
[19:32] <Firefishe> ?
[19:33] <sponzor> red screen and text install the grub boot loader on a hard disk unable to install grub in /dev/sda executing grub-install /dev/sda failed. this is a fatal error
[19:33] <escott> Firefishe, it is the wm, and it is relatively standard
[19:33] <Firefishe> edbian: I have the 3d and not the 2d version installed, so I suppose compiz is the win manager by default, eh?
[19:33] <tekk> BluesKaj: http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/6092/alsamixer.png
[19:33] <Firefishe> escott: which is the window manager for unity?  compiz?
[19:33] <rww> Firefishe: yes
[19:34] <Firefishe> rww:  thank you
[19:34] <escott> Firefishe, compiz is the wm, unity is the desktop environment
[19:34] <edbian> Firefishe: Compiz is not a window manager at all.  compiz uses gtk-window-decorator (which is a link to something usually)
[19:34] <Firefishe> rww:  nice to see you again, btw...been a while :)
[19:34] <edbian> Firefishe: and unity requires compiz
[19:34] <Firefishe> edbian: What does it normally link to?
[19:34] <johnboy> test
[19:34] <Firefishe> johnboy:  I see you just fine.
[19:35] <johnboy> herm...said my nic was in use
[19:35] <jarnos> glebihan, at least I could make unencrypted swap work and hibernate after http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5777643&postcount=7
[19:35] <edbian> Firefishe: I don't know?  I just looked at mine (Debian) and it isn't a link.  So I'm confused now...
[19:35] <johnboy> thanks!
[19:35] <sponzor> escott: any clue?
[19:35] <BluesKaj> tekk , Ithink you must be missing alsa-utils , you have no vol ctrls etc in alsamixer
[19:35] <llutz> edbian: "Compiz is one of the first compositing window managers for the X Window System that uses 3D graphics hardware ...."   would you please correct that wikipedia-article ;)
[19:35] <jarnos> glebihan, maybe I'll try encrypted swap later. Many thanks for support.
[19:35] <djigit> This could be due to the fact that I changed the mac-address?
[19:35] <tekk> BluesKaj, i have no sound device apart from hdmi....
[19:36] <johnboy> nifty irc client- am used to old days of napster and mirc (!get bla bla bla) =)
[19:36] <tekk> i have alsa-utils for sure
[19:36] <Firefishe> I see how unity works now, where you click on the Applications Button and you get an entire screen full of stuff.  Takes a little getting used to, but no more than when I switched from kde 3.5.x to 4.x.x (4.6.x at this juncture.)
[19:36] <tekk> SPDIF doesn't have controllable volume as its digital
[19:36] <escott> sponzor, you never said what error you got
[19:36] <pietr101> ey, can you resize ext4 partition without loosing data on it?
[19:36] <edbian> Firefishe: llutz is right.  compiz is a window manager  gtk-window-decorator is a window decorator that compiz uses (duh)
[19:37] <escott> pietr101, as long as it is unmounted it should be fairly safe
[19:37] <edbian> Sorry about the confusion!  I got the terms window manager and window decorator confused
[19:37] <Firefishe> hat's off to llutz :)
[19:37] <sponzor> escott: red screen and text install the grub boot loader on a hard disk unable to install grub in /dev/sda executing grub-install /dev/sda failed. this is a fatal error
[19:37] <anonissimus> is there a gui for disk mounting? the disks I connect do not show up in dolphin
[19:37] <ska> absolutecharm.com's scripts broke their own flash.. Idiots.. noscript is awesome.
[19:37] <escott> sponzor, can you !paste the terminal session where you tried this
[19:37] <johnboy> According to the ubuntu help resource guide, this would be a fine place for some instruction
[19:38] <BluesKaj> tekk , is hdmi the onlu output on that card ?
[19:38] <BluesKaj> only
[19:38] <tekk> hdmi and dvi
[19:38] <tekk> thats all
[19:38] <llutz> edbian: "What is Compiz ?" on compiz.org makes confusion perfect...
[19:38] <Firefishe> edbian: I'm glad that's solidified.  This stuff is confusing enough as it is.  Even more so when I decided to try to upgrade to 10.10 from a very rock solid stable 10.04 LTS yesterday.  Whacked out my networking completely, so I backed up and reinstalled from dvd....less issues.
[19:38] <sponzor> its a installing process for ubuntu (installing grub
[19:38] <zoomzoom> hey guys, I have a bytestring and I want to convert the next 4 characters into a 32 bit integer
[19:38] <tekk> but dvi cannot carry audio
[19:38] <zoomzoom> and then continue processing the rest of the bytestring
[19:38] <Firefishe> Can grub be used in place of grub2 (grub-pc)?
[19:39] <zoomzoom> (processing udp packets)
[19:39] <tekk> gonna try an 11.04 live cd quickly
[19:39] <sponzor> escott: its a installing process for ubuntu (installing grub
[19:40] <escott> Firefishe, yes but grub-pc generally works better
[19:40] <escott> sponzor, in that case let it fail, and boot to the livecd, chroot in and fix it up there
[19:40] <alejoxpi> Hi guys, anyone can helpme with one error i get from ubuntu 10.04 server, i get this error trying to mount a windows share folder : mount error: cifs filesystem not supported by the system
[19:40] <johnboy> Will toss out my lampp permission problem for any takers - one can see the issue here: http://www.jameshsnoddy.com/
[19:40] <sponzor> ok
[19:40] <djigit> Can any one to help me?
[19:41] <llutz> johnboy: ls -ld /var/www           or whatever your document-root is
[19:41] <Spitfire19> alejoxpi: hmm, haven't had that show up before 4 me.
[19:41] <johnboy> llulz tyvm! Let me try this
[19:42] <llutz> johnboy: it won't change anything, just give one line back
[19:42] <BluesKaj> tekk, somehow your actual soundcard has been disabled by the graphics card spdif ...dunno how but that seems to be the case
[19:42] <tekk> i don't have a soundcard...
[19:43] <Tim55> i need help
[19:43] <llutz> johnboy: ls -ld /var/www           or whatever your document-root is. Whats the output?  and pls don't pm me, i don't answer PMs
[19:43] <mina> hi
[19:43] <johnboy> oh ok
[19:43] <Spitfire19> alejoxpi: Example from /etc/fstab:
[19:43] <johnboy> sec
[19:43] <Spitfire19> # Backup Share for VM Portal on VM Backup Host
[19:44] <Spitfire19> //10.250.0.112/BackupPortal /home/eot-it/BackupPortal cifs username=eot-it,password=****** 0 0
[19:44] <BluesKaj> tekk, you probly have an integrated soundcard , they're usually built in by default on the mobo
[19:44] <tekk> i don't
[19:44] <tekk> believe me :)
[19:44] <BluesKaj> then you need one
[19:44] <Kingsy> ok this kworker thing is really starting to freak me out
[19:44] <martita> hi
[19:44] <tekk> you don't need one
[19:44] <alejoxpi> Spitfire19 you mean take a example from fstab?
[19:44] <tekk> i know people using the same setup with me... but different OS and they have audio through HDMI
[19:45] <Kingsy> what should I do, just leave my pc on for 48 hours and see if the kworker stops eventually?
[19:45] <escott> sponzor, i think for raid 1 what you want the boot process to look like is mbr on sda -> /boot on sda (outside of md array) and similar on sdb. that way it looks like a non-raid boot, but once the initrd is loaded the kernel can see the md array and mount root on it
[19:45] <Firefishe> Is there a setting for making the unity left side panel auto-hide?
[19:45] <BluesKaj> fine , this is as far as I go with this ...audio requires some kind of audio circuits , they don't appear by magic
[19:45] <Spitfire19> alejoxpi: no, that's an example from my fstab on a system I'm running.
[19:45] <venik212> I screwed up my UNITY-- now I cannot start it.  Gnome works fine, though.  I did it by playing with the Compiz settings, but undoing the changes did not restore Unity's function
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> Firefishe:  auto hide is the default i thought. Its handled by a CCSM plugin called 'unity' for those settings.
[19:46] <venik212> can anyone tell me how to restart unity?  I reinstalled almost everything I could think of..
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> venik212:  try a unity --reset  or unity --reset-icons yet?
[19:46] <Spitfire19> then again, its technically a samba share i'm mounting as cifs for me.
[19:46] <venik212> let me try that
[19:46] <tekk> BluesKaj.... the graphics card has HDMI and an audio processor
[19:46] <tekk> this is 2011
[19:46] <tekk> not 1996
[19:47] <tekk> i just changed my alsa probe mask
[19:47] <tekk> some new devices popping in
[19:47] <FloodBot1> tekk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> venik212:  tip: reinstalling a package will NOT NOT NOT.. (normally) touch the users settings.. if the settings are broke. you ned to reset them. Not follow the windows mindset of reinstalling packages./
[19:47] <johnboy> llutz drwxr-xr-x 4 sing sing 4096 2011-07-07 16:05 /opt/lampp/htdocs
[19:47] <wh1zz0> Firefishe: Exactly... The really got it right in 10.10 .. That left pane looks really bogus
[19:47] <wh1zz0> They8
[19:47] <Spitfire19> alejoxpi: I'm not a Linux guru, but this might apply in your situation. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[19:47] <wh1zz0> They*
[19:47] <alejoxpi> Spitfire19: can you put again the example plz
[19:47] <noob_> install error encountered. my first time installing 11.04.
[19:47] <Spitfire19> # Backup Share for VM Portal on VM Backup Host
[19:48] <Spitfire19> //10.250.0.112/BackupPortal /home/eot-it/BackupPortal cifs username=eot-it,password=****** 0 0
[19:48] <llutz> johnboy: ls -l /opt/lampp/htdocs/index*
[19:48] <johnboy> ok
[19:48] <ikonia> Spitfire19: why do you keep pasting that
[19:48] <Firefishe> Dr_Willis: Well, it does auto-hide when you move a window toward it, but when I maximize a window, a gaping vertical area of bad rendering is evident.  It's okay with a normal window--you move the window and touch it to the unity sidebar and the bar auto-hides.
[19:48] <Spitfire19> only twice i have
[19:48] <johnboy> -rw-r--r-- 1 sing sing 256 2009-02-05 16:04 /opt/lampp/htdocs/index.php
[19:49] <noob_> can someone help me with an 11.04 installation error?
[19:49] <sponzor> escott: ok. i m beck to the partition disks i m looking if i did someting wrong as i can see sdb is flaged as bootable and sda is not. i try to change that and i cant make it bootable?
[19:49] <Captainkrtek> noob_: sure I can
[19:49] <Captainkrtek> noob_: what is the error you're getting?
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> Firefishe:  you may want to check the forums and askubuntu.com - the 'panel stays over full screened apps' is a common bug ivbe seen mentioined in here. (or other issues with fullscreened apps) ive never seen a general 'fix' - I do not notice the issue in 11.10 at all. :)
[19:49] <escott> sponzor, shouldnt matter but you can flag it with fdisk
[19:50] <Firefishe> Dr_Willis: Gads!  Now my window decorations are gone.
[19:50] <llutz> johnboy: hmm, "should work". that's a XAMPP installation, not native ubuntu-packages?
[19:50] <Firefishe> Is 11.10 even out yet?
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> Firefishe:  compiz  crashed.
[19:50] <sponzor> escott. ok i will fix it with live cd than.
[19:50] <csdserver> hey guys, having trouble with a recent install using 10.04:  setting up auto eth0 as per usual, static IP, allows me access to the router, but will not resolve addresses in host form, but will resolve in IP form. Anyone seen this before?
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> Firefishe:  alpha testing it right now.
[19:50] <johnboy> this was from apachefriends,org
[19:50] <Firefishe> Dr_Willis: I"m tempted.  How do I get compiz back up?
[19:50] <johnboy> not ubuntu package
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> Firefishe:  run compiz --replace in a term. or alt-f2
[19:51] <noob_> thanks. Input/Output error. Can not mount /dev/loop0 (cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs.
[19:51] <llutz> !lamp| johnboy sry we can't support that. and honestly, i don't have any idea why it fails
[19:51] <aliz74> hello u all
[19:51] <johnboy> I will certainly uninstall and install the ubuntu package (did not know this existyed)
[19:52] <aliz74> hello?
[19:52] <Firefishe> Dr_Willis: Thank you, that's better.
[19:52] <BluesKaj> tekk , for your info i use a plain jane integrated audio and i pass Dolby Digital,  DTS and most any audio codec to my audio receiver for our home theater system. I also use a dvi out on my graphics card to hdmi on our tv.
[19:52] <escott> sponzor, did you use the alternate installer?
[19:52] <aliz74> can i hve a question
[19:52] <aliz74> ?
[19:52] <johnboy> let me install the ubuntu package
[19:52] <[THC]AcidRain> for ubuntu using tomcat. is there anything easier to get setup and working than solr? im finding it very difficult
[19:52] <noob_> captainkrtek
[19:53] <Firefishe> brb
[19:53] <aliz74> how can I share a internet connection on the other network users ?
[19:53] <ikonia> !ics | aliz74
[19:53] <anonissimus> sharkoon
[19:53] <johnboy> mysql is the only one I've used for a decade (windows though) but going thru the package mgr on ubuntu
[19:53] <johnboy> desperately wanting to rid myself of windows
[19:54] <rns> can I use easy_install to install microsoft fonts on ubuntu?
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> rns:  theres a tool in the repos that does it allready.. or just copy them to the .fonts dir
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> 'mstcorefonts' or some package like that
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> !fonts
[19:55] <Pici> rns: The package name (in 11.04) is ttf-mscorefonts-installer
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[19:55] <johnboy> many thanks again, all
[19:56] <csdserver> Argh!  whats up with my network?  stupid thing... guess it has to wait since i have to go now.
[19:56] <noob_> ubuntu 11.04 install failed.
[19:58] <Angstromboli> hey i have a question. what would happen if during the ubuntu installation i set /boot to the same partition as the windows boot loader?
[19:58] <escott> Angstromboli, you would have a broken windows boot thats what you would get
[19:58] <edbian> Angstromboli: it would erase the windows boot loader and replace it with grub
[19:58] <slavsan> hi, all
[19:58] <Angstromboli> ok
[19:59] <edbian> Angstromboli: and yes, windows would no longer boot :P
[19:59] <noob_> any help?
[19:59] <noob_> hello?
[19:59] <slavsan> Can somebody help me? I'm trying to get a cyrillic output from a command line dictionary named cbedic...
[20:00] <epsilon> is anyone using Ubuntu Privacy Remix? Any idea I can execute root commands? sudo is keep asking me for password and so does "sudo passwd root" too
[20:00] <noob_> there's no help here.
[20:00] <slavsan> so what is here?
[20:00] <alto_> looking for redmine help
[20:01] <bkerensa> slavsan: This is a support channel
[20:01] <slavsan> oh
[20:02] <oCean> alto_: maybe try #redmine channel? This is ubuntu support
[20:02] <slavsan> ok, thanks
[20:02] <slavsan> bye
[20:02] <alto_> shankyou
[20:05] <[THC]AcidRain> can anyone help me?
[20:05] <[THC]AcidRain> with solr...
[20:06] <sillykone> Anyone know about Magick++?  The program compiles, but breaks at the line "Image url_image(url);"
[20:06] <alejoxpi> I need help with this error, I have installed samba
[20:06] <alejoxpi> "root@fileserver:~# mount /media/temporal/
[20:06] <alejoxpi> mount error: cifs filesystem not supported by the system
[20:06] <alejoxpi> mount error(19): No such device
[20:06] <alejoxpi> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)"
[20:06] <FloodBot1> alejoxpi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:06] <alaing> hi does any one know a freenode irc channel for help with custo buld pcs that are running on windows?
[20:06] <sillykone> It gives the following error: magick/semaphore.c:525: LockSemaphoreInfo: Assertion `semaphore_info != (SemaphoreInfo *) ((void *)0)' failed.
[20:06] <sillykone> alaing: What is your question reguarding those?
[20:07] <oCean> !alis | alaing
[20:07] <alaing> my machine keeps randomly rebooting
[20:08] <sillykone> alaing: You mean when it's booted up the computer shuts down without your aproval and then boots up?
[20:08] <Pici> alaing: If you're running Windows then ##windows is the place to ask.
[20:09] <alaing> THanks people. sillykone  i'll carry on in #windows
[20:09] <sillykone> alaing: NP.
[20:09] <CoYoTe> oi
[20:09] <WasserDragoon> hi, where does ubuntu logs ssh connection errors?
[20:10] <WasserDragoon> auth.log?
[20:11] <Pici> WasserDragoon: yes.
[20:11] <hadi> please help me to vpn connection for linux arios
[20:11] <WasserDragoon> Pici: because there's no error message, but when i'm trying to access my server using my rsa key i'm getting this output: http://pastebin.com/RTp23ubP
[20:11] <escott> !vpn | hadi
[20:12] <WasserDragoon> client machine is fedora, server is ubuntu
[20:12] <escott> WasserDragoon, the key should not be ascii armored
[20:12] <fabiobik> hi guys. Its possible to connect SSH and when connection is done show an menu list with programs disponible to run?
[20:13] <chaospsychex> Does Ubuntu 10.10 meet the 'Host System Requirements' for LFS ?
[20:13] <WasserDragoon> escott: how to change this?
[20:13] <escott> WasserDragoon, i mean it should be and yours is evidently not
[20:13] <hadi> thanks
[20:13] <Pici> chaospsychex: LFS?
[20:13] <chaospsychex> Pici: Linux From Scratch
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> chaospsychex:  we dont knwo what those requirements are. :) I imagine its a yes...
[20:14] <Pici> chaospsychex: I think they would be a better judge of that.
[20:14] <escott> WasserDragoon, your .ss/id_rsa should begin -----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY----- Proc-Type: 4,ENCRYPTED DEK-Info: AES-128-CBC
[20:14] <hadi> please help me software for arios linux
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> hadi:  whats arios? and clarify the question...
[20:14] <chaospsychex> I guess I will find I when I start building it but it probably does
[20:15] <WasserDragoon> escott: it does
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> chaospsychex:  last i checked LFs had a live cd setup to give you a base system to start with.
[20:15] <WasserDragoon> -----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----\nProc-Type: 4,ENCRYPTED\nDEK-Info: AES-128-CBC,86...
[20:16] <hadi> please support me to download software for linux arios
[20:16] <Pici> hadi: This channel is only for Ubuntu support, we do not support Arios Linux here.
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> hadi:  never heard of arios..  if its a linux disrto.. check its homepage/channels.
[20:17] <WasserDragoon> escott: the key is fine. It authenticated me
[20:17] <urlin2u> hadi, http://arioslinux.org/
[20:17] <hadi> arios linux virtualization on the ubuntu linux
[20:17] <newbie> got an error message while installing 11.04. need help.
[20:17] <hadi> for all linux?
[20:18] <urlin2u> hadi, you can try virtualbox fairly esy platform.
[20:18] <urlin2u> easy*
[20:18] <hadi> persian support?
[20:18] <Xenophon> Arios looks like it's using Unity as well...
[20:18] <urlin2u> hadi, where?
[20:18] <Pici> !ir | hadi
[20:19] <newbie> (initrmfs) mount failure error.
[20:19] <hadi> ok
[20:19] <hadi> thanks
[20:19] <escott> WasserDragoon, sorry im just confused by the weird messages about not being able to read the id_rsa
[20:19] <urlin2u> newbie, do you see this  grub>
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> Xenophon:  hard to tell - it could be just using some themed dock/awn/docky...
[20:19] <newbie> urlin2u no.
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> yet another ubuntu variant i dont really see the need for.. but I dont use other languages either. :)
[20:20] <Xenophon> Dr_Willis: Yeah it a little, but it's looking like a new OS, hence that assumption.
[20:20] <Xenophon> Dr_Willis: Seems like it would be easier just to install Ubuntu with the language you need...
[20:21] <urlin2u> newbie, a little more info would help. ;-)
 this is my first install.
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> Xenophon:  the panel looks like awn to me in some screenshots. i see a reflextion/eyecandy that i dont think unity has,
[20:21] <urlin2u> newbie, did you boot a cd or pen drive to install, or install from windows?
[20:21] <Jon--_> Have: Ubuntu and XP installed using GRUB. Want to: Upgrade to windows 7. Can I somehow install Windows without a boot loader? I don't want to brick my boot loader or be unable to access ubuntu
[20:22] <WasserDragoon> ok i copied .ssh folder from /home/danny to /root on the server and did ssh root@server and it works using the root folder :-/
[20:22] <ikonia> Jon--: just re-apply grub post windows install
[20:22] <urlin2u> Jon--_, you wont the mbr is easy to fix 2 commands to get grub back in from a livr cd
[20:22] <escott> !grub | Jon-- just let windows eat the mbr and then restore it
[20:22] <Xenophon> Dr_Willis: I don't know awm at all, is it better than Docky in your opinion?
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> Jon--:  you should learn to repair grub.. windows  will trash it. n:) there are tools that make restoreing it easier.
 sorry. :) input/output error. can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs.
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> Xenophon:  most docks these days have so many features its more of a 'which has the most' I think awn has many more features then docky. :) but if thats good or bad depends on your needs.
[20:23] <Jon--> I can just backup my grub.cfg and replace it, then use fdisk to set up Win7 on my own
[20:23] <Jon--> I know that I can use tools, I want to learn myself
[20:23] <Jon--> Thanks for the tips
[20:23] <urlin2u> newbie, was this a install from windows which is called a Wubi?
[20:23] <escott> Jon--, you dont even need to backup the config. it shouldnt be affected. just the mbr
[20:23] <Xenophon> Dr_Willis: I'm still relatively new to using docks. Docky is the only one I know, so I may take a look.
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[20:23] <Jon--> escott, Mine is a little bit custom
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> Xenophon:  been using awn with unity when i do have to use unity. :)
[20:24] <MACscr_lappy> anyone tried running ubuntu in virtualbox on osx and allow the ubuntu guest to have direct access to its own disks?
[20:24] <Jon--> The only issue is I need a Ubuntu boot CD now. -_-
[20:24] <Jon--> Computer doesn't boot from USB
[20:24] <Xenophon> Unity.... Oooh, how do you cope Dr_Willis?
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> MACscr_lappy:  should be doable.. but last i checked the vbox docs. they reccomend NOT having vbox access the phycial hard drives directly.
[20:25] <Xenophon> Jon--: How old is the machine?
 didn't use wubi.
[20:25] <ServerSage> So I did something stupid, on my mac mini I accidentally installed grub on both /dev/sda and /dev/sda4.  Doh.  I know how to remove it from sda (using dd, first 466 blocks IIRC), but how does one remove grub from a  /dev/sda4 parition?
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> Xenophon:  with awn going. Idont even notice unity being there.. :) it replasces mosta ll the features i need.
[20:25] <MACscr_lappy> Dr_Willis: well i need some way for osx to be able to access the data on my ubuntu drives
[20:25] <urlin2u> newbie, how much memory does the computer have memory=ram
[20:25] <Jon--> Xenophon, Few years. Desktop
[20:25] <Xenophon> Dr_Willis: Nice.
[20:25] <escott> ServerSage, it uses some block chaining techniques that you probably dont want to mess with
[20:25] <Kamikaze> where do i have to start learning Ubuntu? I'm completely new one in Ubuntu's field, I know nothing about this, I would like to learn some basic skills/commands at the 0 point, what should i do ?
[20:26] <newbie> 3 gb.
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> MACscr_lappy:   its possible theres features for osx to mount ext2/3/4 - ive never tried.
[20:26] <urlin2u> newbie, so you got installed, no errors, and get this on reboot?
[20:26] <Xenophon> Jon--: You're desperate for Ubuntu?
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> MACscr_lappy:  or run linux in vbox and share the filesystems
[20:26] <MACscr_lappy> Dr_Willis: well one of my drives is xfs, so i know thats not going to happen
[20:26] <newbie> install failed.
[20:26] <Xenophon> Jon--: I've found older hardware doesn't sit well with the large full distros.
[20:26] <ServerSage> escii: So there is no way to do it?  Ug.  refit shows me both as boot options.  Very annoying.
[20:26] <MACscr_lappy> Dr_Willis: thats what im trying to do. But the disks already exist, hence why im trying the raw disk method
[20:27] <Xenophon> Jon--: I've found older hardware doesn't sit well with the large full distros.
[20:27] <urlin2u> newbie, so when did you get this error?
[20:27] <ServerSage> escott: So there is no way to do it?  Ug.  refit shows me both as boot options.  Very annoying.
[20:27] <newbie> when i booted the cd.
[20:27] <newbie> to install.
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> MACscr_lappy: check the vbox docs.. its possible. but not advised.
[20:27] <escott> ServerSage, reformat i would think
[20:27] <urlin2u> newbie, did you burn it as a image?
[20:27] <domedagen> Anyone got ProjectM running?
[20:27] <Jon--> Xenophon, It's not THAT old. Core2 duo, 4GB RAM, ATI Radeon 5850. Really old board and slow HD tho.
[20:27] <newbie> yes
[20:27] <JeanJochen> ALGUM BRASILEIRO AQUI ???!!!!
[20:27] <ServerSage> escott: Boy, that seems extreme.  Ug.  Oh well, thanks.
[20:28] <Xenophon> Jon--: Oh... & that doesn't boot to USB?
[20:28] <newbie> iso
[20:28] <escott> ServerSage, check in #grub but i would be careful its likely to ruin the fs if you remove it wrong
[20:28] <EgyParadox> !Portuguese
[20:28] <urlin2u> newbie, were you able to check the md5sum of the ISO?
[20:28] <Jon--> Xenophon, Really bad BIOS/motherboard.
[20:28] <domedagen> newbie: In what step did it fail?
[20:28] <ServerSage> escott: Would seem that reinstalling would do the same.  :)
[20:28] <Xenophon> Jon--: Yeah it would have to be... Have you googled it?
[20:28] <brontosaurusrex> Kamikaze: maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/index.html
[20:28] <Jon--> Would I be okay using, say, a 9.04 boot CD to fix my 11.04 GRUB?
[20:28] <Jon--> I'd assume so
[20:28] <Xenophon> Jon--: Maybe there is a bios update that would allow it.
[20:28] <Jordan_U> ServerSage: Removing boot code from the PBR can be done eith dd just like removing code from the mbr.
[20:28] <escott> Jon--, you can use the chroot method
[20:28] <newbie> when i booted the cd.
[20:29] <Jon--> escott, Which is?
[20:29] <newbie> cdburnerxp.
[20:29] <escott> Jon--, if you have to ask, burn yourself a 11.04 cd
[20:29] <newbie> md5sum?
[20:29] <Jon--> escott, I'd like to learn.
[20:29] <Kamikaze> brontosaurusrex, thanks )
[20:29] <escott> !md5sum | newbie
[20:29] <ServerSage> Jordan_U: So using the dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda4 bs=446 count=1?
[20:29] <hadi> این سایت هیچ کمکی نتونست به من بکنه
[20:30] <brontosaurusrex> Kamikaze: or cuter : http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[20:30] <hadi> من میخوام تو لینوکس وی بی ان رو اجرا کنم
[20:30] <Jordan_U> ServerSage: Yes.
[20:30] <coinmaster> hello everyone i have a serious problem with deinstalling some files by using apt Errors were encountered while processing:
[20:30] <coinmaster>  libglade2.0-cil
[20:30] <coinmaster>  libgtk2.0-cil
[20:30] <Kamikaze> brontosaurusrex, thanks im gonna read both of them )
[20:30] <coinmaster> anyone a idea how i can solve that ??
[20:30] <Jon--> escott, I am very good with Windows, a software developer who switched to Ubuntu about a year ago. I do a lot of things from the terminal. I don't want kid gloves. :P
[20:30] <newbie> the file size was different, too.
[20:30] <coinmaster> apt-get remove dnt work
[20:30] <ServerSage> Jordan_U: Thanks!
[20:30] <hadi> اما نمیدونم وی بی ان از کجا بیارم
[20:31] <domedagen> newbie: You have burnt to CD sucessfully and entered welcome screen on it. but when you choose test ubuntu nothing happens. Is that correct?
[20:31] <Xenophon> The last part of the last Arabic sentence looks like lol.
[20:31] <hadi> لطفا به صورت فارسی راهنمایی کنید
[20:31] <newbie> didn't get to welcome screen.
[20:31] <Tim55> al salam alaikum
[20:31] <escott> Jon--, this is for the wrong version of grub but explains the chroot http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[20:31] <hadi> farsi support to creat vpn for unlock site
[20:31] <guntbert> hadi: stop that please!
[20:31] <urlin2u> newbie, here is alink on md5sum, I suspect it may not be this but never hurts to check.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[20:32] <newbie> thanks
[20:32] <domedagen> newbie: Have you setup BIOS so that it boots from DVD player instead of HDD?
[20:32] <newbie> yes
[20:32] <Pici> hadi: #ubuntu-ir not #ubuntu
[20:32] <newbie> file size different, too.
[20:32] <urlin2u> newbie, there are others on line now better in this area, so I will let them help. ;-)
[20:32] <newbie> almost 100mb.
[20:32] <Jon--> escott, I'm assuming grub-install will fail to work from an earlier distro to a newer one installed?
[20:32] <hadi> ubuntuforums?
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> Jon--: if getting a new live cd for fixing grub. ch3ck out the ones that contain boot-repair -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:33] <Pici> hadi: type: /join #ubuntu-ir
[20:33] <Jordan_U> !ir | hadi
[20:33] <newbie> urlin2u thanks
[20:34] <escott> Jon--, with an install cd that old you likely have the wrong version of grub (namely 1.0 and not 1.99)
[20:34] <KittyGirl> How do i add music to my iPhone?
[20:34] <KittyGirl> I can synce it
[20:34] <domedagen> newbie: Sounds like something went wrong with the burning because I installed yesterday. What were you saying about file size?
[20:34] <KittyGirl> and delete music from it but when i unplug the music remains.
[20:34] <KittyGirl> Whys that?
[20:35] <tripelb> I learned to do dmesg (for some other reason) and I've noticed that I am getting high temps. Can I get something to inform me of that on my panel (similar to the system RAM usage monitor I have on my panel) - Big thanks for help!
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> !iphone | KittyGirl
[20:35] <KittyGirl> I'm using rhythmbox to sync it.
[20:35] <escott> Jon--, but in any case you probably want to use the most recent grub which is installed on your root partition
[20:35] <Bisu[Shield]> I have a folder filled with xml files.  How do i run xmllint --noout --schema schema.xsd [all xml files] >> output.txt
[20:35] <Jon--> escott, Ahh, that makes more sense now. Any install CD with GRUB2 will work, or I can use chroot and make /dev/sda5 (for example) my root, and then run the install-grub from there?
[20:35] <Bisu[Shield]> i want to validate all the files
[20:35] <escott> Jon--, yes
[20:35] <Jon--> escott, *waddles off to install Windows* Thanks.
  download link said 685mb. file/iso size finished downloading was 585mb.
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> Bisu[Shield]:  the * wildcard wont work?
[20:35] <KittyGirl> Dr_Willis: I've been to that page before.
[20:35] <KittyGirl> It doesn't help me.
[20:35] <Kamikaze> guys what's the "meta" key? where is that on the keyboard ?
[20:35] <Bisu[Shield]> hmmm
[20:35] <HSarena> Hi, How to use proxy for system, i wanna install package from PPA but it's filter in my country and indicates this error "404  Not Found"
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> KittyGirl:  no idea then. I wont buy anything from apple.
[20:36] <KittyGirl> It only tells me how to use rhythmbox.
[20:36] <KittyGirl> Dr_Willis: It's not my iPhone it's my sisters.
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> KittyGirl:  rythembox is how you do it from what ive seen in here.
[20:36] <KittyGirl> I put Ubuntu on her netbook.
[20:36] <KittyGirl> then a couple of weeks ago she got an iPhone.
[20:37] <Kamikaze> guys what's the "meta" key? where is that on the keyboard ?
[20:37] <tripelb> kittygirl have you done a google search?
[20:37] <KittyGirl> tripelb: Yes.
[20:37] <tripelb> and nothing, eh?
[20:37] <Dr_Willis> Kamikaze:  metakey is another name for the alt-key I belive.
[20:37] <KittyGirl> It didn't help.
[20:37] <Bisu[Shield]> wildcard wont work
[20:37] <KittyGirl> I can sync the iPhone perfectly fine.
[20:37] <Kamikaze> Dr_Willis, thanks
[20:37] <Dr_Willis> Bisu[Shield]:  xargs then perhaps. or use of 'find'
[20:37] <KittyGirl> but i just can't add or delete music.
[20:38] <Bisu[Shield]> mmmm explain that Dr_Willis
[20:38] <domedagen> newbie: Well that doesn't sound right.
[20:38] <KittyGirl> Pls help my mum is yelling at me thinking i broke the iPhone.
[20:38] <tripelb> kittygirl you might try ubuntuforums. I'd like to help someone get his music off the iphone.  Is how to copy music from it like a backup, is that on the webpage ubbotu linked to?
[20:38] <HSarena> How to use proxy to download and install package from PPA
[20:38] <bernhard2> cant seem to enable tls on exim4 anybody want to shed some light on my issues ?
[20:39] <tripelb> hi Dr_Willis
 version ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386 584mb.
[20:39] <newbie> *.iso
[20:40] <KittyGirl> Pls help i don't like being yelled at. :(
[20:40] <ikonia> KittyGirl: we don't do this on demand
[20:40] <ikonia> KittyGirl: have you read the link ubottu gave you
[20:40] <urlin2u> HSarena, is this the thunderbird 6 ppa and a work computer?
[20:40] <KittyGirl> ikonia: I did.
[20:40] <newbie> may be wrong version for my comp?
[20:40] <ikonia> KittyGirl: what did it say about settig up syncing music
[20:41] <KittyGirl> ikonia: In the Ubuntu 11.04 part it only mentions stuff about amarok.
[20:41] <KittyGirl> I'm using rhythmbox.
[20:41] <aamnah> kittygirl: try banshee instead of rhythmbox
[20:41] <ikonia> KittyGirl: ok  - so use the supported tool
[20:41] <ikonia> KittyGirl: or the recommended tool
[20:41] <KittyGirl> :(
[20:41] <newbie> domedagen ^^^
[20:41] <HSarena> urlin2u: i don't understand about work computer but it isn't thunderbird
[20:41] <domedagen_> newbie: Sorry about that.
[20:41] <KittyGirl> Idk if it's going to work.
[20:41] <newbie> np
[20:42] <KittyGirl> My sister took her iPhone off me.
[20:42] <urlin2u> HSarena, I thought you were someone else, sorry .
[20:42] <ikonia> KittyGirl: ok, then there is no point discussing it more
[20:42] <tripelb> <- is getting high temperatures. What can I do?  10.04 -- is there a panel warning device??
[20:42] <tripelb> Interesting re banshee, Note that Canonical modifies our code to take a 75% cut of our Amazon affiliate revenue
[20:42] <KittyGirl> ikonia: My mum is yelling at me thinking i broke the iPhone.
[20:43] <ikonia> KittyGirl: we can't help with that
[20:43] <KittyGirl> She doesn't understand linux.
[20:43] <KittyGirl> and what it can do.
[20:43] <Xenophon> Dr_Willis: Yeah I think I'll be sticking with Docky...
[20:43] <tripelb> can I use banshee with 10.04 ?
[20:43] <KittyGirl> ikonia: Pls can you atleast help me shut her up?
[20:43] <domedagen_> newbie: Try download again and see what happens. Only takes 12mins
 ?
[20:44] <KittyGirl> forget it.
[20:44] <ikonia> KittyGirl: please don't be silly - this channel is for ubuntu support, not your personal arguments
[20:44] <domedagen_> newbie: Ubuntu 64-bit download
[20:44] <newbie> 27 mins with my connection.
[20:44] <domedagen_> newbie: 27min ?!
[20:44] <KittyGirl> ikonia: I'm not being silly.
[20:44] <newbie> satellite
[20:44] <tripelb> kittygirl, try this one: it's your sister's fault for getting the iphone if she didnt have a mac. She could have easily gotten and android device that would have worked fine. It's not your fault that she asks you to do the impossible!
[20:45] <ikonia> tripelb: drop it
[20:45] <tripelb> k
[20:45] <coinmaster> when i run any apt-get command i get Errors were encountered while processing: libglade2.0-cil  libgtk2.0-cil apt-get remove is not working aswell
[20:45] <newbie> hughesnet satellite
[20:45] <KittyGirl> tripelb: Thanks i'll try mentioning that.
[20:45] <newbie> or 7 hours
[20:45] <KittyGirl> Sorry everyone i just got really disturbed.
[20:45] <coinmaster> does anyone have a solution ?
[20:46] <ribot> hey, how can i apt-get install libxslt?
[20:46] <anderson> hi can some one help me ?
[20:46] <domedagen_> newbie: 12 min was on wireless G network
[20:46] <newbie> hughesnet satellite for me
[20:47] <anderson> how can i install vncserver on ubuntu via command ?.
[20:47] <ribot> or sablotron?
[20:47] <rww> back in my day, ISOs took a day to download and we didn't complain :(
[20:47] <urlin2u> coinmaster, can you recreate this in the terminal and pastebin the whole text shown
[20:47] <Anwar> heya
[20:47] <DeadmanIncJS> lol "back in my day"
[20:48] <DeadmanIncJS> how "old" are you rww
[20:48] <anderson> ??
[20:48] <domedagen_> newbie: So you have a file that says ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso but it isnt as large as it should be
[20:48] <rww> DeadmanIncJS: only twenty-something
[20:48] <anderson> o one can help ?
[20:48] <coinmaster> (Reading database ... 111575 files and directories currently installed.)
[20:48] <coinmaster> Removing libglade2.0-cil ...
[20:48] <coinmaster> E: File does not exist: /usr/share/cli-common/packages.d/policy.2.8.glade-sharp.installcligac
[20:48] <coinmaster> dpkg: error processing libglade2.0-cil (--remove):
[20:48] <coinmaster>  subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[20:48] <coinmaster> Removing libgtk2.0-cil ...
[20:48] <FloodBot1> coinmaster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:48] <coinmaster> E: File does not exist: /usr/share/cli-common/packages.d/policy.2.6.gtk-dotnet.installcligac
[20:48] <coinmaster> dpkg: error processing libgtk2.0-cil (--remove):
[20:48] <Guest18235> Hi, can someone help me make a bootable DVD image with mkisofs?
[20:48] <hadi> unlock site????
[20:48] <guntbert> ikonia: may I pm you?
 *-i386.iso
[20:49] <rww> anderson: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC?action=show&redirect=VNCOverSSH#Accessing%20your%20PC%20over%20the%20Internet
[20:49] <ikonia> guntbert: sure thing
[20:49] <MohShami> hey guys, I recently switched from metacity to compiz because of some video playback issues, the thing is, if I drag a window to make part of it go outside the screen, it is shown in the adjacent workspace, any idea how to disable that behaviour? I've been searching for 2 days with no luck :(
[20:49] <Guest18235> Hi, can someone help me make a bootable DVD image with mkisofs?
[20:49] <urlin2u> coinmaster, a lot of dependencies for both of those mentioned, do you really need to remove them?
[20:49] <stealz_> My system randomly freezes when I start flash videos (might be on reload of a page, or after the 5th video I watch or whatever. Keys are not responding and mouse wont do anything either. Does anyone have a recommendation? Maybe one of the open source flash plugins?
[20:49] <domedagen_> anderson: What seems to be the problem?
[20:50] <gigaclon> I just downloaded 11.04 and the Minimize, Maximize and Close are on the wrong side
[20:50] <Guest18235> Hi, can someone help me make a bootable DVD image with mkisofs?.
[20:50] <MohShami> @stealz_ New hardare?
[20:50] <gigaclon> how can i fix
[20:50] <rww> !controls | gigaclon
[20:50] <tripelb> Please, my computer is getting HOT. a. what can I do? b. is there a panel deal I can get to show me when it is hot? (I found out with dmesg fixing something else)
[20:50] <coinmaster> urlin2u: well since i would like to install other packages i need to solve this problem to install them
[20:50] <urlin2u> stealz_, the firefox addon flash aid does wonders in fix flash.
[20:50] <rww> oh, they changed that factoid. hrm :|
[20:50] <rww> oh, good, new link still has the workaround
[20:50] <isoer> Hi, can someone help me make a bootable DVD image with mkisofs?.
[20:50] <hadi> please help me to unlock site ????????????/////
[20:50] <skulltip> why have a cloud vs just a server, can i code remotely, listen/watch media remotely? is the cloud more of a consumer device, or where can I ask these dumb questions?
[20:51] <stealz_> MohShami: I installed a new graphics card, not sure if it was before or after ubuntu install, but i am using updated proprietary drivers
[20:51] <urlin2u> coinmaster, are you getting errors on these other installs?
 *-i386.iso
[20:51] <h00k> hadi: This isn't an Ubuntu specific question
[20:51] <Pici> skulltip: Dumb questions in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[20:51] <venik212> I damaged my Unity, and tried UNITY --RESET and then unity --reset-icons, but that got stuck and would not finish.  Needless to say, unity still does not start...   what do I do?
[20:51] <isoer> Hi, can someone help me make a bootable DVD image with mkisofs?..
[20:51] <domedagen_> newbie: And you did follow the tutorial given in the download section on burning
[20:51] <stealz_> urlin2u, I already have that, it helped with some issues but system still freezes
[20:51] <Joe0006> guys he is not using ubuntu
[20:51] <rww> hadi: You've been pointed to #ubuntu-ir already. Your refusal to use #ubuntu-ir does not mean it's okay to grade #ubuntu with unintelligable English.
[20:51] <Joe0006> he is using something els
[20:51] <rww> s/grade/grace/
[20:51] <urlin2u> stealz_, what is your ram amount?
[20:51] <isoer> Hi, can someone help me make a bootable DVD image with mkisofs?.
[20:51] <MohShami> @stealz_: nvidia or AMD? I've had no problems with my intel or nvidia cards, it might be an AMD problem
[20:51] <stealz_> urlin2u, 8gb
[20:51] <coinmaster> urlin2u: i get the same error with concerning ibglade2.0-cil libgtk2.0-cil when i try to install other packages
 i used cdburnerxp.
[20:52] <stealz_> MohShami, nvidia
[20:52] <coinmaster> so i cant install new packages
[20:52] <stealz_> MohShami, and I have a intel CPU
[20:52] <newbie> to burn an iso image.
[20:52] <MohShami> stealz_: are you using compiz?
[20:52] <hadi> no help me ubuntu.ir
[20:52] <stealz_> MohShami, yes
[20:52] <urlin2u> stealz_, do you have the pae kernels?
[20:52] <rww> hadi: Again, that is not our problem.
[20:52] <stealz_> urlin2u, not sure? what does that mean?
[20:53] <MohShami> stealz_, do you have more than 4GB of ram and use 32bit ubuntu?
[20:53] <stealz_> MohShami, 8GB and 64bit ubuntu
[20:53] <MohShami> then no PAE
[20:53] <newbie> i'm using an intel dg41wv mobo.
[20:53] <MohShami> stealz, PAE is used to enable 32 bit system to use more than 4GB of memory
[20:54] <newbie> is that chip a 386?
[20:54] <venik212> can anyone help me start Unity (or has everyone trashed it and returned to gnome?)
[20:54] <urlin2u> stealz_, those kernels are for being able to use more than a set ram amount.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[20:54] <MohShami> stealz_, my desktop is running 64bit ubuntu with 4GB and an nvidia 210 card, no problems, but I'm not running compiz
 ^^^?
[20:55] <urlin2u> stealz_, may have been autodetected the ram amount, and installed hard to say from this end.
[20:55] <DeadmanIncJS> i got Win7 back on my newest laptop
[20:55] <ribot> is there some php-sablotron for apt-get install?
[20:55] <DeadmanIncJS> still would like dual boot, but hard to w/4 partitions already on it
[20:56] <stealz_> urlin2u, I run 64bit Ubuntu, so I shouldnt need PAE
[20:56] <urlin2u> DeadmanIncJS, 4 primaries is the limit.
[20:56] <Karen_m> is 11.04 forced to be unity?
[20:56] <domedagen_> newbie: I dont see how you could have completed download without downloading the entire file and I know for sure that the iso works
[20:56] <MohShami> stealz_, is your graphics card overheating?
[20:56] <DeadmanIncJS> i know :(
[20:56] <DeadmanIncJS> is there a way i can delete the rest of them
[20:56] <DeadmanIncJS> ?
[20:56] <domedagen_> newbie: So it has to be the burning process
[20:56] <DeadmanIncJS> i already have the recovery cd's
[20:56] <DeadmanIncJS> so i could care less
[20:56] <urlin2u> stealz_, if you open a terminal and run top do you how much ram s seen.
[20:56] <FloodBot1> DeadmanIncJS: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:57] <MohShami> stealz_, I used to get lockups when the fan on my old card stopped working
[20:57] <stealz_> MohShami, I highly doubt it, it has a fan on it and my computer casing is open. I never have those freezes under Windows
[20:57] <DeadmanIncJS> i wasn't lol
[20:57] <stealz_> MohShami, I had that on my old card, too
[20:57] <domedagen_> newbie: Are you complety sure you burnt as iso http://cdburnerxp.se/help/data/burn-iso and not just data?
[20:57] <stealz_> MohShami, , but I doubt thats the issue
 how do i test that?
[20:58] <MohShami> stealz_, try touching the heat sink
[20:58] <MohShami> of course do that right after you turn your PC off
[20:58] <HSarena> Hi, I wanna install package from PPA but it indicates an error " Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~gnurubntu/+archive/rubuntu: HTTP Error 404: Not Found "
[20:58] <newbie> yes. i specifically chose the burn iso option.
[20:58] <domedagen_> newbie: One way is to pop it in a Mac or Linux computer and see if it mounts properly
[20:58] <MohShami> HSarena, you won't be able to do so if it's not found, are you using a kernel PPA by any chance?
[20:59] <urlin2u> DeadmanIncJS, yes you can but you want to be careful as you probably have a boot partition and a recovery the boot partiotn likely has files needed that can be moved to the primary C partiton.
[20:59] <newbie> all i have are xp comps.
[20:59] <domedagen_> newbie: 1min left on dowload so that I can see excacly what it contains
[20:59] <newbie> ok
[20:59] <MohShami> Anybody know how I can force windows to appear on a single workspace?
[20:59] <stealz_> MohShami, it feels warm, but I doubt thats the reason, the system will run immediately after it crashes, it didnt do that when I used to have crashes due to overheat
[21:00] <Bisu[Shield]> why does this: for a in *.xml; do xmllint [options] $a >> output.txt; done not write to output.txt ???
[21:00] <DeadmanIncJS> anybody want to do it for me if i give remote access?  hehe
[21:00] <HSarena> MohShami: i think this address is filtered in my country
[21:00] <MACscr_lappy> what is the default file system for ubuntu 11.04?
[21:00] <MACscr_lappy> ext3?
[21:00] <hadi> linux vpn
[21:00] <urlin2u> DeadmanIncJS, do you have a live cd ubuntu?
 thanks
[21:00] <domedagen_> newbie: I dont have Windows :( but did you choose burn iso istead of data disc
[21:00] <MohShami> HSarena, that usually returns an access denied error
[21:00] <DeadmanIncJS> urlin2u yes
[21:00] <newbie> yes
[21:00] <Kingsy> can someone tell me what application rebuilds/updates raid1 in ubuntu by default?
[21:01] <HSarena> MohShami: ok Thank U
[21:01] <MohShami> HSarena :)
[21:01] <newbie> i'm trying to replace windows with ubuntu.
[21:01] <DeadmanIncJS> newbie let it use the whole hard drive
[21:01] <DeadmanIncJS> shouldn't have an issue
[21:02] <urlin2u> DeadmanIncJS, best thing is running a script to get a look at the setup, so you get a full look at it, for example the windows boot schema's, you up for that from the live cd.
[21:02] <newbie> i need to reformat my hdd?
[21:02] <Jordan_U> Bisu[Shield]: For one you're missing a semicolon and "done" : for a in *.xml; do xmllint "$a"; done >> output.txt
[21:02] <anderson> i have small ram and i need light browser can you please give me his name please
[21:03] <Jordan_U> Bisu[Shield]: It may also be that you really want stderr redirected rather than (or in addition to) stdout.
[21:03] <urlin2u> anders_office, lxde=lubuntu is one busybox, fluxbox, xfce
[21:03] <newbie> brb
[21:04] <Jordan_U> anderson: How much RAM do you have?
[21:04] <anderson> 128
[21:04] <absence> how does the mechanism that allows unprivileged users to mount disks in ubuntu work? and how do i configure it?
[21:04] <domedagen_> newbie: No, you can erase Windows as you install ubnut but you probably just want to resize windows as you install ubuntu for the first time.
[21:05] <propman> newbie: coming in late to this conversation but most issues with burning livecd/dvd's are they are burnt at too high of a speed.  If the md5 of the iso checks ok, then try burning a new copy at around 4X rather than full speed
[21:05] <domedagen_> Jordan_U: Doesnt swap solve that problmem?
[21:05] <anderson> so please ?
[21:05] <Jordan_U> anderson: I would try chromium and if that is too heavy then dillo (though dillo is very basic).
[21:05] <tripelb> Hello, my computer is running hot. I've been asking. Please notice me. GROVEL
[21:05] <anderson> dillo ?
[21:06] <anderson> i got this error
[21:06] <anderson>  is only available from another source E: Package dillo has no installation candidate
[21:06] <tripelb> I can smell the hot. it slows to cool. 10.04
[21:06] <Jordan_U> domedagen_: As far as allowing you to run programs that need lots of RAM without crashing, yes. As far as being able to use your computer at a reasonable speed rather than watching a slideshow, no.
[21:06] <Kingsy> can someone tell me what application rebuilds/updates raid1 in ubuntu by default?
[21:06] <tripelb> oh well I'm invisible now. I'll just turn it off.
[21:07] <Kingsy> I am sure its not dmraid cos that wasnt installed earlier
[21:07] <anderson> so what i do with this error " is only available from another source E: Package dillo has no installation candidate "
[21:07] <Jordan_U> !patience | tripelb
[21:08] <tripelb> I didnt jordan. It's been two days. I wait. I answer someone else. I wait.
[21:08] <tripelb> I can smell it.
[21:08] <domedagen_> anderson: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/applications/79980-extremely-lightweight-web-browser-anyone.html
[21:08] <rww> anderson: dillo is no longer in Ubuntu's repositories. It was removed during Karmic because it depends on libgtk1.2, which is a horribly out-of-date library. I do not recommend using it.
[21:08] <Guest78826> opera
[21:08] <anderson> and what i use
[21:08] <anderson> what is the lighter browser ?
[21:08] <rww> !browsers | anderson
[21:09] <Guest78826> opera
[21:09] <Tcash> Newbie
[21:09] <rww> anderson: from that list, Arora and Midori are notably light.
[21:09] <domedagen_> Tcash: He is AFK atm
[21:10] <anderson> i going to ses arora
[21:11] <stealz> urlin2u, how do I see my ram again? I had to boot to ubuntu
[21:11] <tripelb> Is there a time code on dmesg? How can I tell if it is HOT NOW?
[21:11] <urlin2u> stealz, top in the termnal
[21:11] <EgyParadox> anderson: lynx is the lightest
[21:12] <Slart> tripelb: I think the first numbers on each line is seconds since boot
[21:12] <pingveno> EgyParadox: Personally, I prefer reading the raw source code.
[21:12] <pingveno> There's nothing lighter than less.
[21:12] <stealz> urlin2u, it shows all 8GB
[21:13] <anderson> and what is the list gui ?
[21:13] <EgyParadox> its a matter of preference after all :)
[21:13] <domedagen_> Tcash& propman: "newbie [438eaf18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.142.175.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]" Lost for ever, noes!
[21:13] <anderson> i think icewm ?
[21:13] <urlin2u> stealz, cool personally not sure why your having problems, other than just running to many things at once, pure speculation though.
[21:13] <MACscr_lappy> so i switched out the mobo/cpu on my ubuntu system. I can ssh into it and i can see my mouse and a black background, but nothing else. Any recommendations? my video card is the same as it was before
[21:14] <rcross> Hi folks, I have ubuntu server install on a flash drive with EXT2 fs. A power outage caused an unclean shutdown and totally hosed up all my system files even after fsck and such. I'm going to reinstall it later and I was wondering what filesystem I should use (on a flash drive). EXT2 eats everything after an unclean shutdown, but EXT3's journaling will kill a flash drive quickly. Any other alternatives...?
[21:14] <domedagen_> FML
[21:14] <urlin2u> rcross, the journaling is a myth with most modern thumbs
[21:14] <stealz> urlin2u, Thats not it, I am pretty sure. It just comes out of nowhere when I run flash videos sometimes. The biggest issue is that I cannot do anything but hold the power button on my machine
[21:15] <rcross> even with constant writes to logs and such?
[21:15] <rcross> I mean flash drives are cheap, I can buy a new one when it fails, I just got a 16 gig for like $12
[21:15] <stealz> urlin2u,  I have a button combo bound to xkill, and I have ctrl+alt+backspace enabled, but both dont work in that case
[21:15] <urlin2u> rcross, there are ways to reduce that.
[21:16] <rcross> my linux nerd friend says that my flash drive will last "weeks" on EXT3, I kind of doubt that...
[21:16] <urlin2u> stealz are you familiar with the crtl-alt-prtsc  reisub  soft rebot?
[21:16] <urlin2u> reboot*
[21:17] <urlin2u> rcross, they are crazy
[21:17] <rcross> maybe I'll try EXT3 then, thanks
[21:17] <rcross> gonna take a week to get everything set back up the way I want it to again argh
[21:18] <urlin2u> rcross, you can slow down the read and writes look on the web.
[21:18] <cmrodican> Hi
[21:18] <rcross> don't want to risk copying config files over, a lot of stuff got corrupt
[21:18] <cmrodican> Had a really weird thing hap this mrng
[21:19] <stealz> urlin2u, no, thanks for the hint, gonna try that next time. I just found out my GPU is at 65° C, that might be to hot
[21:20] <cmrodican> I buy a belkin bt dngle anxd plugg it into optiplex w lucid
[21:21] <absence> how can i prevent gvfs-mount from allowing unprivileged users to mount specific disks?
[21:22] <guntbert> cmrodican: please use english :) (maybe slow down on the keyboard?)
[21:22] <cmrodican> Nd whrn I started confging my system crshd
[21:22] <cmrodican> N will not turn on
[21:22] <cmrodican> Ne1 knw why?
[21:22] <stealz> cmrodican, I think your keyboard is missing a few keys...
[21:23] <rcross> anyway thanks for all the help, I'll try EXT3
[21:23] <iridium> he's on LC_LOL
[21:23] <urlin2u> rcross, that temp is way to high.
[21:23] <silas1988> What are good ways to diagnose an increase in outgoing network traffic?
[21:23] <stealz> urlin2u, you mean me?
[21:24] <cmrodican> Sorry I'm on my phone if u want I will come bck later
[21:24] <urlin2u> stealz, yeah
[21:24] <stealz> urlin2u, I am actually not sure
[21:24] <jkdkdkdk> hi
[21:24] <urlin2u> stealz, 149 Fahrenheit
[21:24] <stealz> urlin2u, Its the temp it should have after some excessive use, I've been playing for a bit earlier today
 i'd rather switch completely to ubuntu.
[21:25] <stealz> urlin2u, after heavy useage my GPU can have 86°C which is still not a problem according to benchmarks
[21:25] <urlin2u> stealz, not an area of real knowledge for me seems high though
[21:25] <cmrodican> I apologize for use of annoying trping the touch screen keyboard stinks
 ok. i did burn it at 24x.
[21:25] <jkdkdkdk> recently firestarter ip connections kept coming up pointing to akamai technologies. Even when just conncecting to google search homepage in firefox.
[21:25] <stealz> urlin2u, me neither I just checked some comparison websites
[21:25] <Karen_m> is unity mandatory on 11.04 or is it optional?
[21:25] <com64> I cannot access my encrypted home folder in XFCE4. "Error stating file '/home/daniel/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected.". Bowever, I
[21:25] <com64> can access any folder under it
[21:25] <stealz> urlin2u, although under desktop usage it should be lower, the temperature is way below overheating
[21:26] <stealz> however my gpu is like an oven =)
[21:26] <com64> whoops, mashed the keyboard by mistake and pressed enter...
[21:26] <Jordan_U> !classic | Karen_m
[21:26] <jkdkdkdk> I looked up them in software centre and got this but it isnt ticked as on computer any ideas what it is http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-Akamai/
[21:26] <Karen_m> Jordan_U, neat, thanks
[21:26] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: You're welcome.
[21:27] <jkdkdkdk> in software centre it says  a perl module to interact with akamai
?
[21:27] <stealz> urlin2u, do you know if the free flash plugins are valuable alternatives, I am mainly watching streams and vids with flash, no editing or uploading whatsovever
[21:28] <urlin2u> stealz, not sure you mean the open source like gnash, some like some don't not sure myself, for youtube there is minitube no flash neded.
[21:29] <jkdkdkdk> ne ideas why i get dns akamitechnologies coming up in firestarter when just on firefox homepage?
[21:29] <stealz> urlin2u, thanks for your help, I will look into this and see if I get it fixed
[21:30] <urlin2u> stealz, sound like quad core as well you might check that the chip is being utilized, 8 gigs make me think of these tyoe of chips
[21:30] <sveinse> Does anyone know of a tool displaying .so dependency tree?
[21:30] <stealz> urlin2u, yes, all 4 cores are utilized
[21:30] <urlin2u> cool stealz
[21:32] <Obsidian1723> anyone know of a PPA for Lucide for Evolution 3.0.2?
[21:32] <jkdkdkdk> quite a few links too. ne ideas? libnet-akamai-perl what is it in software centre or tell me where i can find out
[21:32] <tripelb> slart. does dmesg restart at each boot. It looks like the most recent boot is in the middle of it -starting with: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icboYemh6ZM
[21:32] <tripelb> nooooooo
[21:33] <tekk> hey
[21:33] <tekk> who was here earlier helping me?
[21:33] <tripelb> slart. does dmesg restart at each boot. It looks like the most recent boot is in the middle of it -starting with:  17.354289] NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module  96.43.17  Thu Apr 15 05:28:41 PDT 2010  [[i'm sick boohoo and I "forget" that the control-C doesnt copy in terminal.]]
[21:33] <tekk> BluesKaj ?
[21:33] <tekk> i got it working :)
[21:34] <tekk> i had to change the bitmask as alsa was detecting it as a different device
[21:34] <BluesKaj> tekk, well i was trying to help :)
[21:34] <dv_ent> Hey guys, everytime I try to run tor it just displays the code, even after removing the hash marks as instructed. anyone know how to resolve this?
[21:34] <bronaugh> ok, got a weird issue. just installed Ubuntu on a Lenovo Thinkpad X120e. problem is, it boots directly to Windows.
[21:34] <tekk> and then i forced my system in asound.conf to default to plughw:0,8
[21:34] <bronaugh> no Grub menu, no nothing.
[21:34] <tekk> now its fully working :D
[21:34] <BluesKaj> tekk, good to hear ...modprobe did the trick ?
[21:34] <bronaugh> Ubuntu 11.04 fwiw
[21:34] <tekk> (6 hours later)
[21:34] <tekk> well i upgraded alsa first
[21:34] <tekk> as i'm on ubuntu 10.04 it had old alsa
[21:34] <bronaugh> and laptop has win7 preinstalled.
[21:35] <tekk> so removed all traces of alsa/pulse and recompiled from source... installed, now it works
[21:35] <tekk> along with tweaks to asound.conf and modprobe
[21:35] <jkdkdkdk> This package provides a perl module to interact with Akamai CCUAPI to handle multiple purge requests.   ne one even the faintest ideas what this is about
[21:35] <bronaugh> any ideas as to why, and how to fix it?
[21:35] <bronaugh> I tried booting the liveCD again, and installing grub to /dev/sda, but it made no difference.
[21:36] <home> quick question, this is my first time using xubuntu and was wondering how to install java
[21:36] <BluesKaj> tekk, asound.conf ? ...I thought it no longer existed
[21:36] <rww> !java | home
[21:36] <home> I heard it was like sudo apt-get java
[21:36] <tekk> well alsa-whatever.conf
[21:36] <tekk> the same file
[21:36] <tekk> in /etc/modprobe.d/
[21:36] <tekk> they just renamed in ubuntu 10.04 it seems
[21:37] <dv_ent> anybody know how to get TOR to run on ubuntu 11.04?
[21:37] <jkdkdkdk> or what a multiple purge request is at least?
[21:37] <jkdkdkdk> ????
[21:37] <rww> !tor | dv_ent: follow the instructions on torproject.org
[21:38] <tripelb> rcross, where did you get that price? ((I see it not in google shopping and that's before shipping is added))
[21:39] <tripelb> can I get a high temperature warning device on the panel????
[21:39] <Obsidian1723> anyone know of a PPA for Lucide for Evolution 3.0.2?
[21:39] <Obsidian1723> anyone know of a PPA for Lucid for Evolution 3.0.2?
[21:41] <home> when I try to use the sudo add-apt-repository it says needs repository argument
[21:42] <bronaugh> ok, so no one has any idea why Ubuntu 11.04 would fail to install grub when w7 is present?
[21:42] <urlin2u> home, post the whole command
[21:43] <home> all four lines?
[21:43] <urlin2u> bronaugh, to many partitions, no free space a gpt partition schema.
[21:44] <bronaugh> urlin2u: plenty of free space, doesn't seem to be too many partitions. gpt is a possibility.
[21:44] <bronaugh> urlin2u: so if gpt, what next?
[21:44] <urlin2u> home, th apt-get-repository command as you ran it.
[21:45] <urlin2u> bronaugh, not sure that is a geeks area.
[21:46] <home> After this operation 106MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue Y/n I hit Y and says abort.
[21:46] <urlin2u> home, open the terminal and tyoe history it will show.
[21:47] <stealz> urlin2u, I think the crashes where caused by youtube, not flash as is. And they occured when closing video tabs, not opening new ones. I switched to html5 and updated firefox and it seems to work now
[21:47] <stealz> urlin2u, needs further testing though
[21:47] <bronaugh> Flash, oh oh, ruiner of the Internet!
[21:48] <stealz> hehe
[21:48] <urlin2u> stealz, you using Firefox
[21:48] <stealz> I had some issues with it, yes
[21:48] <stealz> urlin2u, yes
[21:48] <tripelb> ubuntuforums FTW. there exists: sudo apt-get install hardware-monitor    <----   tjat
[21:48] <tripelb> ubuntuforums FTW. there exists: sudo apt-get install hardware-monitor    <----   thats for temperature they said.
[21:48] <urlin2u> stealz, do you have the addons adblock plus and noscript?
[21:48] <stealz> urlin2u, why? any known issues with it?
[21:48] <stealz> urlin2u, yes, I have adblock puls, but not noscript I think
[21:49] <tripelb> chrome FTW (I use 10.04)
[21:49] <stealz> urlin2u, just checked, no noscript installed in firefox
[21:49] <urlin2u> stealz, both block stuff and will cut down of malicious scripts...etc
[21:49] <urlin2u> on
[21:50] <stealz> urlin2u, gonna have a look on noscript, but since its youtube I doubt its malicious scripts in there
[21:50] <urlin2u> stealz, I use it to just be protected but it cuts down the use of the cpu..etc
[21:51]  * Obsidian1723 anyone know of a PPA for Lucid for Evolution 3.0.2?
[21:51] <stealz> urlin2u, k just on it
[21:51] <w30> urlin2u, what does one miss with noscript installed.
[21:51] <edbian> w30: scripts
[21:51] <newbie> how do i prep my computer to install ubuntu/
[21:51] <newbie> ?
[21:51] <edbian> w30: Some sites rely heavily on scripts (like facebook).  Some don't at all.
[21:52] <edbian> newbie: No prep necessary.  Just boot the liveCD
[21:52]  * Obsidian1723 wrote a script to configure Ubuntu.
[21:52] <mikaell> good evening, ive just installed ubuntu 11.04 on my netbook and i have trouble getting sound working, i previously had wubi installed and it worked like a charm, can anyone please help me?
[21:52] <urlin2u> stealz, you woulkd have to look at the web site cross scripting all kinds of stuff, most people use it, you nevefr want to assume any site is safe.
[21:52] <newbie> edbian i did that. got an error message when i booted from cd.
[21:52] <edbian> newbie: What was the error?
[21:53] <urlin2u> stealz, even using oinux.
[21:53] <urlin2u> linux
[21:53] <newbie> mounting error
[21:53] <edbian> newbie: That's a bit vague
[21:53] <stealz> urlin2u, thanks for the hin
[21:53] <stealz> t
[21:54]  * Obsidian1723 anyone know of a PPA for Lucid for Evolution 3.0.2?
[21:54] <newbie> edbian can not mount /dev/loop0 (cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[21:54] <urlin2u> stealz, np
[21:54] <home> how do I upgrade something using terminal, it says 142 not upgraded
[21:54] <home> nvm
[21:54] <com64> I cannot access my encrypted home folder in Thunar in XFCE4. I get this error: "Error stating file '/home/daniel/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected.". However, I can access, read, and write to my home folder in a terminal and can access, read, and write in any subfolder.
[21:55] <edbian> newbie: That sounds like a problem with the CD.  Make sure it's very clean and try again.  If it still doesn't work try burning another CD or making a liveUSB (which are more reliable)
[21:55] <newbie> maybe i burned it too fast
[21:55] <newbie> 24x
[21:56] <bel3atar_> 24x seems OK
[21:57] <StaRetji> folks, how can one see what device is connected to what ttyUSB
[21:57] <StaRetji> ?
[21:57] <bel3atar_> lsusb
 it's the iso for ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386, 584mb
[21:57] <edbian> newbie: Well there's your problem.  The iso should be greater than 584 mb, it's more like 699
[21:58] <StaRetji> lsusb
[21:58] <edbian> newbie: Burning slowly helps
[21:58] <StaRetji> bel3atar_: thx for reply. I fail to understand from output where is written ttyUSB?
[21:58] <sianhulo> people how i can restore the default my defaults ports?
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  clarify that a bit more...
try lshw
[21:59] <stealz> urlin2u: just fyi, youtube has noscript whitelisted by default
[21:59] <stealz> err
[21:59] <sianhulo> my ports of internet, i made an rror and now i can't acces to an aplication(cause it is configured to use another port)
[21:59] <stealz> the other way round
 md5 wrong, too.
[22:00] <maleknet> hi , i want to install ubuntu on a touch screen device for browsing web , so i need a on screen keyboard that can handle it
[22:00] <edbian> newbie: :)
[22:00]  * Obsidian1723 anyone know of a PPA for Lucid for Evolution 3.0.2?
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  and how dod you configure these ports? if you mean firewall rules. you can clearn them all out.
[22:00] <newbie> burn a new disc/
[22:00] <newbie> ?
[22:01] <com64> maleknet, GOK?
[22:01] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, no, it was from the aplication i can't acces
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  and what app is this?
[22:01] <urlin2u> stealz, I remove all white listing, it will want two things cleared though, for cookies,  use another addon called toolbar buttons to get the persession buttons in the tool bar.
[22:01] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, the web interface os xlink kai
[22:01] <urlin2u> I use stealz
[22:02] <sianhulo> since i changed it, i can't fix it cause i can't acces to it
[22:02] <maleknet> com64,  GOK not rais by click on a text field
 i burned it directly from ubuntu's homepage.
[22:02] <com64> maleknet, ah... I remember seeing something else earlier.
[22:02] <com64> hm.
[22:02] <edbian> newbie: Well it didn't download completely
[22:02] <DrGrov> Does kubuntu-backports work in 10.04? I would love to get a fresher version of KDE and not 4.4.5.
[22:02] <Mrokii> hello. Does somebody know of a problem that sometimes Bash-windows don't get keyboard-focues despite being the active window? I sometimes have the problem that the typing goes to another, inactive bash-window instead of the one that is selected. And I think I didn't have that problem before 11.04.
[22:03] <StaRetji> bel3atar_:  would it be this: bus info: usb@3:1.4 ?
[22:03] <Obsidian1723> edbian: one thing I recommend too, go with the LTS version... the mid-releases are far less buggy.
[22:03] <gerzel> is there a way to restart the sound daemon?
 should i retry from the same link? thanks for your help.
not sure
[22:03] <Obsidian1723> gerzel: yes. restart the alsa-server
[22:04] <edbian> newbie: Try a different link (just in case).  Check the md5 sums!
[22:04] <newbie> thanks
[22:05] <edbian> newbie: Oh, I see the website only has that giant orange button.  I can't really say were else to get a mirror
[22:05] <edbian> newbie: The button should work fine though
[22:05] <newbie> that's the one i used.
[22:05] <Obsidian1723> newbie: I can move an ISO into my dropbox if you want
[22:06] <newbie> i'm new. idk how to use dropbox. sorry.
[22:06] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, are you still there¿?
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> torrents may be faster newbie
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  im in and out all day...
[22:06] <Obsidian1723> You just download it by clicking a HTTP link, thats all
[22:06] <newbie> ok
[22:06] <Obsidian1723> true on the torrents
[22:07] <Obsidian1723> but if you torrent, ALWAYS check the md5 hash sum
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> if the iso is partial downloaded,or currupted you can 'fix' it by using th torrents also..
[22:07] <com64> maleknet, You're supposed to be able to use Florence on a tablet pc.
[22:07] <newbie> i'm using satellite internet. download speed sucks.
[22:07] <LinuxGuy2009> I have a network attached hard drive or NAS, it has a shared folder of many deb packages. I'd like to organize it a bit by putting them into a proper organized pool. How can I do that?
[22:07] <com64> according to its description, maleknet
[22:07]  * Obsidian1723 notes that gtkhash is good for that.
[22:08] <Obsidian1723> sudo apt-get install gtkhash
[22:08] <sianhulo> someone knows how to restore the dafault configurtion of the ports?
[22:08] <com64> and according to the reviews, Florence works with tablets...
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  you really should be more detailed in your questions like that,  you are asking how to reset teh SETTINGS for some program/app ive never heard of..  the fact its the port settings is not really critical.
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  if its configs are in a text file, ssh in, edit the files..
 how do i access dropbox here?
[22:10] <Shocker_> Hello
[22:10] <Shocker_> I have a question
[22:10] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, i dont know where the configuration file of the program is
[22:10] <Shocker_> I have a computer
[22:10] <Shocker_> that runs Windows XP
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  then perhaps a check of its homepage/docs would be a good idea.
[22:11] <Shocker_> And I would to know
[22:11] <Shocker_> Whether my wifi driver is compatible
[22:11] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, i checked it out, found nothing
[22:11] <Shocker_> It works great now
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> Shocker_:  we can handle more then 4 words per line. :)
[22:11] <maleknet> com64, thanks .i try to solve my problem with your advice
[22:11] <Shocker_> I just want to know
[22:11] <com64> maleknet, no prob.
[22:11] <Shocker_> If it will work
[22:11] <OerHeks> !enter | Shocker_
[22:11] <Shocker_> Sorry
[22:11] <Shocker_> On phone
[22:11] <FloodBot1> Shocker_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> Shocker_:  try asking the question all on one line now...  and give some mrre details. network on phone is a little 'vague'
[22:12] <ParkerR> Is it possible to have grep pull the EAN-13 barcode from this output http://pastebin.com/1MXGnfyJ and have it open a URL with the scheme http://www.upcdatabase.com/item/<barcode> ?
[22:12] <Shocker_> Okay then. To recap: Computer with XP, WIFI works fine. If I switch to Ubuntu, will it still work? And I meant I am chatting from my phone
[22:13] <ParkerR> Shocker_, yes it should
[22:13] <Shocker_> It will just transfer the driver over?
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> Shocker_:  linux has its own drivers.. it will depend on the exact wireless chipets as to how well it works
[22:13] <sianhulo> at least someone knows where is the TCP network information?
[22:13] <ParkerR> That is not how it works
[22:13] <ParkerR> Shocker_,
[22:14] <Shocker_> I have a Dell Latitude D520
[22:14] <bazhang> sianhulo, that is not really ubuntu specific
[22:14] <Shocker_> Is that internet card compatible?
[22:14] <th0r> Shocker_: that says nothing about what wifi card is inside
[22:14] <ParkerR> Thats the computer not the wifi chip
[22:14] <Shocker_> Okay
[22:14] <Nickem> Hello. I'm currently trying to get a PCMCIA Wireless card to work on Ubuntu 11.04. It worked for about 3-4 hours last night while I was trying to debug it, but it has returned to the default of appearing as "disconnected". It's a Linksys Wireless-G Notebook Adapter, model no. WPC54G and appears to have an Atheros AR5001 chipset. I am new to Ubuntu, and Linux for that matter, and this is the first installation I've tried to debug. E
[22:14] <Nickem> verything else on this laptop works perfectly.
[22:14] <sianhulo> bazhang, i supose the ubication of the file is different between distros
[22:14] <bazhang> Shocker_, easy on the enter key, it's impossible to read
[22:14] <home> Hi I accidentally installed the wrong java, I installed jre instead of jdk, how do I remove java jre
[22:15] <home> I'm unsure on the terminal command
[22:15] <bazhang> sianhulo, not really no
[22:15] <Shocker_> Well will MOST wifi cards work with Ubuntu?
[22:15] <hugenumber> Intel®
[22:15] <hugenumber>  PRO/Wireless 3945A/G (802.11a/g), Dell Wireless 1490 (802.11a/g), Dell Wireless 1390 (802.11g) for shocker
[22:15] <ParkerR> Shocker_, yes
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> intel wireless  is a good sign. :)
[22:15] <ParkerR> Yep
[22:15] <daan4711> Hi all, I think there is an ubuntu server down or something. When I do apt-get update, I will get a list full of errors like: W: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/natty-security/restricted/i18n/Translation-en  Cannot initiate the connection to ports.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.92.175). - connect (101: Network is unreachable)
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> may work out of the box/live cd even.
[22:16] <Shocker_> Okay then. If it doesn't work, then how can I get it to work?
[22:16] <daan4711> Is that true? Or is there something wrong in my settings?
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> Shocker_:  get a live cd and see if they work first perhaps...
[22:16] <ParkerR> It should. I have an Intel Wifi link 5100 that works flawkessky
[22:16] <ParkerR> *flawlessly
[22:17] <sianhulo> bazhang, for example fedora's is n "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-device", ubuntu doesn't have /etc/sysconfig
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> Its sort of hard to go wrong with intel brand network cards. :)
[22:17] <home> how do I remove java-jre using terminal
[22:17] <ParkerR> Mhmm
[22:17] <Shocker_> I have a CD. I haven't used it yet. I didn't know that the CD let you test drivers
[22:17] <ParkerR> sudo apt-get remove sunjava-6 iirc
[22:17] <djigit> Help me please. Sorry for my English. All linux distributions does not work network. In Windows, everything is fine. Previously, in linux everything worked, but not now. The problem is in ubuntu 9.10, 10.04, 11.04, and Archlinux. lspci identifies the network card
[22:17] <hugenumber> the cd is best
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  the os network settings are differnt then a 'programs' settings..   You need to clarify exactly what settings you are trying to change.  If you have some firewall rules setup that are causing issues. the iptables command can flush them.
[22:18] <Gentoo64> djigit, what network card? realtek?
[22:18] <Shocker_> Also: Does Ubuntu run flash, and java, and all of that?
[22:18] <hugenumber> yes
[22:18] <eliotn> yes
[22:18] <Gentoo64> yes
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> Shocker_:  of course.
[22:18] <eliotn> lol
[22:18] <hugenumber> silly goose
[22:18] <daan4711> Can somebody tell me if http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-updates/multiverse/source/Sources is really down?
[22:18] <Nickem> The card seems to work, as the lights on it light up, but the network assistant(?)  what's on the top bar says that the card is 'disconnected' Is there any way to fix that?
[22:18] <StaRetji> Till now I struggle with udev rules, read half of Google lol. As I have two identical modems, the only difference is their IMEI number. I fail to find a way to distinguish between these two in order to write udev rules. If you have any idea or tip, it would be highly appreciated. Thx
[22:18] <eliotn> you just have to install the right plugins
[22:19] <Shocker_> Finally: The disk I have is Ubuntu 10.something. Will this automatically update to the newest version?
[22:19] <djigit> Gentoo64, yes
[22:19] <Gentoo64> if you want to upgrade it
[22:19] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, the change was made from the program not a firewall
[22:20] <Gentoo64> djigit, what one? 8168 / 8111?
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:   the program COULD change system settings..  or it may be its own settings. you havent really giuven us a lot of details to go on.
[22:20] <Shocker_> "<Gentoo64> if you want to upgrade it" is that to me?
[22:20] <Gentoo64> yes
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[22:20] <mikaell> hello i cannot get sound working, please help
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> :)
[22:20] <Gentoo64> Shocker_, your better off just installing a new one from disk
[22:20] <Gentoo64> if its c alean install
[22:20] <DBordello> How do I use the command line to connect to a wireless network?  iwconfig wlan0 essid MyEssid seems to set the essid, but iwconfig doesn't show it as connected.
[22:20] <Shocker_> Okay
[22:20] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, i told you i haven't found an config file nowhere
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> !10.04
[22:21] <sianhulo> because of that i think it changes some system file
[22:21] <Obsidian1723> its also the best one to use if you want stability.
[22:21] <hugenumber> 10.04 is best IMO
[22:21] <bronaugh> urlin2u: hey; so it was an MBR partition table with efi, which is apparently an unhappy combo. the solution is to install grub-pc.
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  changed what exactly? you mentioned 'ports' but that could be most anything. If it ran enabled some firewall rules to blockj ports.. then it is a firewall setting.
[22:22] <Obsidian1723> DBordello: Tried sudo ifconfig wlan0 up ?
[22:22] <Shocker_> Okay! Can I just download it to an XP computer and it will replace the current OS with Ubuntu?
[22:22] <Obsidian1723> Shocker_: yes
[22:22] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, the program uses 2 ports, 30000 and 34522
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> Shocker_:  download cd iso. burn to disk.. boot disk.. tell it to do what you want.
[22:22] <djigit> Gentoo64, RTL8168C/8111C
[22:22] <Obsidian1723> after you install it
[22:22] <bazhang> sianhulo, what program
[22:22] <Shocker_> Okay. So 11.04 is the one to download?
[22:22] <DBordello> Obsidian1723, yes.  Could network manager be conflicting?  (btw, when I use it, it works great)
[22:22] <Gentoo64> djigit, yep. i have the same onboard NIC. i disabled it and bought an intel nic because realtek sucks
[22:22] <lfaraone> Shocker_: yes.
[22:23] <Obsidian1723> DBordello: possibly, yes.
[22:23] <sianhulo> 34522 is used by the web interface(you use it by localhost:34522) but the user interface was changed to the 631 port
[22:23] <Shocker_> Okay. Thank you everybody
[22:23] <sianhulo> now it can't be launched
[22:23] <Gentoo64> djigit, realtek 8168 fails on linux even after reboot into windows
[22:23] <Obsidian1723> sianhulo: port 631 is for CUPS
[22:23] <sianhulo> bazhang, xlink kai
[22:23] <Gentoo64> theres fixes for it but dodgy ones
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  port 631 i think is normally used by CUPS :)
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> so that may block that other app.
[22:23] <Obsidian1723> http://localhost:631/
[22:23] <sianhulo> i didn't make the change
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  so it magically changed itself?
[22:24] <sianhulo> i think it was my cousin, but i dont have proof
[22:24] <sven_oostenbrink> I just installed (k)ubuntu on my dell e6400 laptop with BCM4312 wifi card, and have a wifi driver install problem.. Seems like I need the kernel module "wl", how can I get that module?
[22:24] <Obsidian1723> sianhulo:  /tail -f /var/log/auth.log
[22:24] <Obsidian1723> If he used sudo, its in there
[22:24] <djigit> Gentoo64, But earlier work
[22:25] <Gentoo64> djigit, yea. but i assume you dual boot with windows?
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  disable cups/stop cups. restart the other app .. and see if you can then connect
[22:25] <Gentoo64> djigit, dual booting with windows is the problem with that NIC
[22:25] <sianhulo> Obsidian1723, i have to launch the program to make use of the ports, but since th port is changed, it cant be launched and can't acces to the web ui
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  and i imagine what port an app uses would be a app setting file somewhere.. not a 'system setting'
[22:25] <th0r> sven_oostenbrink: I have a 4312 running using the b43 driver
[22:25] <Obsidian1723> sianhulo: which program exactly?
[22:25] <sven_oostenbrink> th0r: how, if I may ask? :)
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  that dident make sence..  you have to laucnh it once for it to even try to access the ports..
[22:26] <th0r> sven_oostenbrink: have you installed the firmware using b43-fwcutter?
[22:26] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, as it is just a binary, the command whereis isn't going to work
[22:26] <Nickem> Hello, is there any workaround to get the drivers for a Broadcom BCM4306 internal wifi card working? Supposedly the 'device is not ready' due to 'firmware missing'.
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  whereis is for the path..  theres ways to monitor binaries to see what files they access..
[22:26] <Obsidian1723> Nickem: try sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[22:26] <Obsidian1723> Nickem: also check lspci to see if the device is seen first.
[22:26] <Gentoo64> djigit, just buy an intel nic. the internet is flooded with problems with the realtek ones on linux
[22:26] <DoYouKnow> b43-firmware-installer works for me
[22:27] <DoYouKnow> sudo apt-get install b43-firmware-installer
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  if its being ran by a user, then it configs would be in the users home dir somewhere.
[22:27] <sven_oostenbrink> th0r: no idea how to do that.. I used KDE "jockey" for that, which installs propitary bcm driver, but  failed because of missing "wl" module
[22:27] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, i don't know how to explain you(i just know a little of english) but the program uses the port 34522, it was changed, i cant launch it
[22:28] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, it needs root permissons to be ran correctly
[22:28] <Obsidian1723> Nickem: ideally, yeah, use an intel nic
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  if its trying to use port 631 by default that would make sence.. since  #1 - thats cups using that port. and  #2 for a port below 1024 it would need tobe ran as root.
[22:28] <th0r> sven_oostenbrink: I run debian now so this is not quite ubuntu....I got the wl module running by downloading the source and compiling it. Don't know if ubuntu has one pre-compiled or not
[22:28] <sianhulo> if you run it as a normal user it will tell that there isn't etwork interface
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  so stop the cups service, try to run the app..
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  run it from terminal, look for error messages.
[22:29] <Nickem> Obsidian1723: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03); I'm pretty sure it's seen. However, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper returned the error of "E: Unable to locate package of ndiswrapper"
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  post bug reports to the apps homepage/forums/support area also.. this is basically getting beyond a ubuntu 'support' issue.
[22:29] <mikaell> hello i cannot get sound working, please help
[22:29] <Obsidian1723> Nickem: hang on , I'll look
[22:29] <sven_oostenbrink> th0r: but actually you are using the b43 module...  just apt-get install firmware-b43-cutter?
[22:30] <th0r> sven_oostenbrink: someone a few lines up suggested sudo apt-get install b43-firmware-installer
[22:30] <th0r> sven_oostenbrink: that would be ubuntu specific, so I can't vouch for it
[22:30] <Obsidian1723> Nickem: ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[22:30] <Obsidian1723> Sorry... that is the right name.
[22:31] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, http://pastebin.com/izutx65h
[22:31] <Obsidian1723> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 ndiswrapper-common
[22:31] <Obsidian1723> Nickem: try that
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  means totally Nothing to me...
[22:32] <djigit> Gentoo64, Thank you. I'll try to have different drivers, or do as you say
[22:32] <bazhang> Obsidian1723, no need for ndiswrapper with broadcom
[22:32] <Kingsy> how can I upgrade my kernel? I am using 2.6.38 and I am sure it has a bug in it
[22:32] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, but that's all the log it gives
[22:32] <ezrea> Hey just tried using the ubuntu 11.04 cd. boots most of the way then has a bunch of critical errors and restarts. help?
[22:32] <bazhang> ezrea, md5 the iso
[22:32] <bazhang> !md5 | ezrea
[22:32] <Nickem> obsidian1723: Thankyou. Also, the pcmcia card I have with the atheros chipset is seen using the sudo lshw -C network command in the terminal, but it is shown as 'disconnected' in the area where you choose the network. I have just installed the ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 successfully, but I haven't noticed a significant change in either card.
[22:33] <tekk> say i have an lvm2 formatted to ext2... if i add another drive to the lvm and extend it will i be able to resize the ext2 without screwing things up?
[22:33] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, how i kill cups procces?
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  its a service. you use the service command to stop it
[22:33] <Obsidian1723> Nickem: have you issued an up command?
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> sudo service servicename stop
[22:33] <bazhang> Nickem, with broadcom there is zero reason for nidswrapper
[22:33] <Obsidian1723> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up ?
[22:33] <Obsidian1723> No ? mark thop
[22:33] <Kingsy> is it easy to upgrade the kernel in ubuntu?
[22:34] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, i can't find any procces called cups or similar
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> service command has a status option . IM not on a linxu box to check the exact commands
[22:34] <StrangeCharm> whenever i try to hibernate or suspend, my computer's screen goes blank (but not off) and it stops responding, but doesn't actually suspend. how can i gather the information that would be needed to work out what's going wrong?
[22:34] <Hot2Trot> any mutt peoples on here?  I setup my gmail account with mutt and I was wondering if when I dete it deletes in gmail or archives... if it does really delete is there some way to make it just archive?
[22:34] <bazhang> Kingsy, its not supported, you could use a PPA but its not some magic fix
[22:34] <Nickem> Obsidian1723, I have just issued the up command, and I haven't noticed the difference.
[22:34] <Obsidian1723> sianhulo: ps aux |grep cups
[22:35] <Kingsy> bazhang: well, have you ever heard of or experienced the bug with kworker read/writing the hdd constantly?
[22:35] <Kingsy> I have heard/read its a kernel bug
[22:35] <Nickem> bazhang, I have both a broadcom internal wireless that does not work due to missing firmware, and a pcmcia card that has an atheros ar5100 chipset. Would ndiswrapper be useful for the atheros?
[22:35] <bazhang> Kingsy, no, whats the bug link
[22:36] <bazhang> Nickem, with the broadcom you need to follow the wifi guide to get the firmware, that is a much better solution as pcmcia cards are really the last worst option, especially with ndiswrapper
[22:37] <sianhulo> Obsidian1723, sorry for being a noob, but, how a determinate the serivece name of the aplication?
[22:37] <Jordan_U> Nickem: No, Atheros cards tend to have great native drivers.
[22:37] <sianhulo> or can i use the path that commands gave me?
[22:37] <Nickem> bazhang, the broadcom is a broadcom BCM4306 chipset. I have found how-tos for 4310 and up, but none for the 4306.
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  it might be cups, or cupsd,  I think the command 'service status' or similer shows all services.
[22:38] <Kingsy> bazhang: I think this is it --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/717919
[22:38] <ribot> &wc
[22:38] <Obsidian1723> sianhulo: yeah, that can be hard sometimes to figure out the name... cups means Common Unix Printing Service, thus cups
[22:38] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, thereis a cupsd, but isn't being excuted
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> sudo service cupsd status      will shows its stauts..
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> status.
[22:39] <Nickem> Jordan_U, Thanks for the response. However the atheros pcmcia is still seen as disconnected even with an up command.
[22:39] <Obsidian1723> sianhulo: ps aux |grep cups <-- will show it running and ps auxwf |grep cups will show any spawned processes
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  of course you are assuming that your other app is actually set to use port 631, it may be some other port.
[22:39] <ezrea> error: NO HUMAN READABLE MSC  is all I get to see before reboot
[22:39] <Kingsy> I heard that updating the kernel could fix this? yeah?
[22:39] <Obsidian1723> Nickem: what does dmesg and lspci show?
[22:39] <Obsidian1723> Can you pastebin it Nickem ?
[22:40] <sianhulo> cupsd: unrecognized service
[22:40] <Nickem> Obsidian1723, Yes, I'll do that now.
[22:40] <Obsidian1723> Thanks Nick
[22:40] <sianhulo> using "cups" it made the procces to run
[22:40] <sianhulo> (cups wasn't running)
[22:41] <Kingsy> anyone have any advice? isnt this like a pretty major problem?
[22:42] <Obsidian1723> Kingsy: what is the issue? sorry, I was working elsewhere
[22:42] <bazhang> Kingsy, sure, but better to follow up then install an unsupported kernel that may introduce a whole raft of other problems
[22:42]  * Obsidian1723 notes 3.0.3 was released at LinuxCon 2011
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> sianhulo:  so now if you connect to http://localhost:631 cups should work. check that it does.. then stop cups. sudo service cups stop, then refresh the page. verify cups is not running.. then try to run that other silly app. :)  and refresh the page again.
[22:43] <Obsidian1723> There's a YT video showing what a kernel release looks like.
[22:43] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, i think it was 631, ifi it isn't, iw probable was 639
[22:43] <Kingsy> Obsidian1723: I am getting a kworker process thats running at about 100MB/s io speed on my hdd, and has been doing so constantly for about 3 -4 hours afaik
[22:43] <Obsidian1723> 631 is cups
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> and 639 is samba isent it?
[22:43] <Kingsy> and from what I have found it it seems to be a bug in the kernel
[22:43] <Obsidian1723> 445 is samba
[22:44] <Kingsy> bazhang: what do you mean by follow up?
[22:44] <ezrea> I am going to re-download the UBUNUTU 11.04 cd and try again
[22:44] <Obsidian1723> http://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers
[22:44] <bazhang> Kingsy, keep track of the bug on launchpad, ie follow up with it
[22:44] <mikaell> hello i cannot get sound working, please help
[22:44] <Obsidian1723> Kingsy: kill the pid
[22:44] <Kingsy> bazhang: and just run my pc like this? its a little worrying to have my hdd running like that
[22:45] <Obsidian1723> but check Launchpad and the fora for details
[22:45] <Kingsy> Obsidian1723: its kworker.. if I unload that wont I crash my kernel?
[22:45] <Obsidian1723> Kingsy: do you have any previous kernels you could roll back to?
[22:45] <Nickem> Obsidian1723, here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/Th3NQp37    || Also, it seems that the first couple of lines from the dmesg were cut off due to the length of the response.
[22:45] <Obsidian1723> Nickem: looking now
[22:46] <Kingsy> Obsidian1723: no, this is a stock 11.04 ubuntu installation
[22:46] <Kingsy> Obsidian1723: about 2 days old
[22:46] <PythonSnake> Hey !
[22:47] <sent_inel> im sorry, whats ubuntu russia channel name?
[22:47] <bazhang> sent_inel, #ubuntu-ru
[22:48] <Obsidian1723> Kingsy: I hate to say it, but dont run the non-LTS releases unless you WANT to run betas for testing. those are geared towards the next LTS release and the non-LTSes pull from debian-unstable whereas LTS pulls from debian-testing
[22:48] <Obsidian1723> Nuke and pave, install LTS
[22:48] <sianhulo> the program uses 2 ports, 30000(it wasn't touched) and port 34522(for web ui) when you launch it, it inmediatly connect you to the web ui, since the port of the web ui was changed, it cant be launched(the program is xlink kai)
[22:48] <sent_inel> oh.. thank you!
[22:48] <Obsidian1723> Nickem: I see the bridge and the driver. which Ubuntu version is this?
[22:48] <Kingsy> Obsidian1723: the kernel is more stable on the LTS releases?
[22:48] <Obsidian1723> Kingsy: yes
[22:48] <Obsidian1723> In general the entire OS is more stable.
[22:49] <WiCkD1> hello.
[22:49] <Nickem> Obsidian1723, Ubuntu 11.04 - it's a fresh install, save what I've tried to do to get the wireless cards to work.
[22:49] <Obsidian1723> Its the samed reason you dont run Arch on a production system.
[22:49] <Obsidian1723> Nickem: same advice. Go LTS
[22:49] <felice> hello
[22:49] <sianhulo> another thing guys
[22:49] <Obsidian1723> and use the 32, NOT the 64 bit
[22:49] <Kingsy> Obsidian1723: lol, isnt it crazy to run 10.04... isnt that more than 1 year old now?
[22:49] <Obsidian1723> 64 bit is waked in some ways, like Flash support, thanks to ASdobe.
[22:49] <Obsidian1723> Adobe
[22:50] <Obsidian1723> Kingsy: yes, but it has longer support than the mid releases do
[22:50] <sianhulo> if it have a config file, it have to be in /home because i reinstalled my system and the system is still there(/home have it own partition)
[22:50] <Nickem> Is LTS Ubuntu 10.04?
[22:50] <Obsidian1723> LTS 2010-2013
[22:50] <Joe0006> so 10 .04
[22:50] <Obsidian1723> Yes
[22:50] <Joe0006> is 2020
[22:50] <Obsidian1723> 10.0.43
[22:50] <Obsidian1723> err
[22:50] <FloodBot1> Obsidian1723: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:50] <Joe0006> 11.04 is 2011 ?
[22:50] <Joe0006> so each year there is a new release ?
[22:50] <Obsidian1723> 10.04.3LTS
[22:51] <Obsidian1723> LTS releases every 2 years, 8.04, which was 2008 April )04), 2010 04 is Oct 2010, thus 10.04
[22:51] <Obsidian1723> 12.04 is the next LTS
[22:51] <Nickem> Alright, thanks for the help Obsidian1723. And so the next LTS release will be next year?
[22:51] <Obsidian1723> ever 6 months, maintenance/beta releases are done. the LTS releases get "point releases" .1 .2 .3 and .4
[22:51] <Obsidian1723> Shortly after .4, the next LTS comes out.
[22:52] <SpiderFred> hi what is coolest command line rss reader?
[22:52] <Kingsy> Obsidian1723: ok, so install 10.04 until april 2012 then it will be safe to upgrade to 12.04?
[22:52] <Obsidian1723> Linux cairo 2.6.32-33-generic #72-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 29 21:08:37 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux <-- my laptop
[22:52] <ciaus> hello all.
[22:52] <Joe0006> hi
[22:52] <Obsidian1723> Well, I neveru pgrade. I just unmount /home, reformat, and install fresh
[22:52] <rww> SpiderFred: newsbeuter
[22:53] <Obsidian1723> /home for me is on a separate parition
[22:53] <Joe0006> yeah same here but ubuntu needs alot of work after fresh install
[22:53] <Obsidian1723> upgrades, even LTS to LTS, are flakey
[22:53] <Obsidian1723> Joe0006: that's why I wrote my configuration script
[22:53] <ciaus> Q:  i just installed 10.4 on my new pc, I had to get the realtek nic drivers from realtek.com.  installed fine, but they arennt persistent.  What do I need to do to recompile the kernel?
[22:53] <Kingsy> Obsidian1723: if you do that don't you loose the application you have installed? or are ALL repo installs made to the home directory?
[22:53] <Obsidian1723> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntune/ <-- what I use on fresh installs
[22:53] <Kingsy> applications**
[22:54] <Obsidian1723> You can export a list of all installed apps
[22:54] <Joe0006> Kingsy you use ubuntu for hwat?
[22:54] <Joe0006> what?
[22:54] <Nickem> Have a nice day, Obsidian1723. Thanks for all of the help. I'll try to report back once I install 10.04 to confirm whether or not that fixed my problem. :)
[22:54] <Kingsy> Joe0006: home use
[22:54] <Obsidian1723> Nickem: cool
[22:54] <sianhulo> i've foun a file, but it  only saves the name of my contacts of xlink kai
[22:54] <Obsidian1723> Ill be gone. work is over... do check out the script
[22:55] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, i foun it!!! now i can fix it
[22:55] <Kingsy> hmm not sure I understand that logic, you reinstall all your applications.. I guess then? and the settings are retained from the home dir?
[22:55] <Obsidian1723> Kingsy: sudo dpkg -l >> Packages.txt will export all apps
[22:55] <sianhulo> Dr_Willis, Obsidian1723 bazhang thanksfor your help and sorry for the problems :)
[22:56] <Obsidian1723> Kingsy: sudo dpkg -l >> Packages.txt will export all apps || and this will install them sudo dpkg --set-selections << Installed-Software && dselect
[22:56] <sianhulo> and yeah, it works
[22:56] <ciaus> Q:  i just installed 10.4 on my new pc, I had to get the realtek nic drivers from realtek.com.  installed fine, but they arennt persistent.  What do I need to do to recompile the kernel?  Any one care to take a stab at this?
[22:56] <Obsidian1723> I recommend downloading my script.
[22:57] <Kingsy> Obsidian1723: hmm I might have to talk to you about this again if your around?
[22:57] <Obsidian1723> cia are you on 10.04.3?
[22:57] <Kingsy> I gotta run its late here, I think I am going to format this weekend then
[22:57] <ciaus> Obsidian1723: yes
[22:57] <ciaus> 32 bit
[22:57] <Obsidian1723> Kingsy: my email address is in the script available at the link. email me.
[22:57] <Obsidian1723> cia ok...
[22:57] <Kingsy> Obsidian1723: cool thanks
[22:57] <Obsidian1723> anytime Kingsy
[22:58] <Obsidian1723> ciaus: latest kernel from the repo I assume? all updates?
[22:58] <ciaus> yup, refreshly pulled down and burnt and installed
[22:59] <ezrea> looked closer at my error messeges, I am getting critical hardware errors to do with my processor. any ideas>
[22:59] <Kingsy> Obsidian1723: so I am guessing the LTS kernel wont have this kworker issue?
[23:00] <StrangeCharm> whenever i try to hibernate or suspend, my computer's screen goes blank (but not off) and it stops responding, but doesn't actually suspend. how can i gather the information that would be needed to work out what's going wrong?
[23:00] <ciaus> uncompressed download, then ran make, then ./autorun.sh
[23:00] <ciaus> but the drivers are not persistent across a system reboot
[23:00] <ezrea> 'would downloading the older version of UBUNTU work for me any better?
[23:01] <el_hadey> how are you guys
[23:01] <el_hadey> I would like to ask you a question in Android
[23:01] <el_hadey> Do anyone here anything about android or what/
[23:01] <ciaus> Obsidian1723: do I need to add your name in front of evey statement I make?
[23:02] <ezrea> el_hadley: this is a linux help room
[23:02] <Obsidian1723> ciaus: n
[23:02] <ciaus> kk
[23:02] <Obsidian1723> ciaus: no.
[23:02] <Pici> el_hadey: Please ask in #android not in #ubuntu
[23:02] <Obsidian1723> I wouldnt use less than 10.04LTS
[23:02] <el_hadey> I searched about android room but I didn't find any room has this nam
[23:02] <el_hadey> e
[23:02] <Obsidian1723> the older ones lack ANY support.
[23:02] <ezrea> anyway, I think I will try the LTS UBUNTU instead
[23:03] <Kingsy> Obsidian1723: before I go, would I be safe to assume that?
[23:03] <ciaus> Obsidian1723: It is 10.04 lts...
[23:03] <Obsidian1723> assume what again?
[23:03] <Zburatorul> where does Nautilus store bookmarks?
[23:03] <Obsidian1723> ok
[23:05] <Kingsy> Obsidian1723: that the LTS version of ubuntu wont contain this kworker usage bug we spoke about...
[23:05] <Obsidian1723> Kingsy: it may not. I run Ubuntu 10.04.3LTS on 4 machines, none have that issue.
[23:05] <ezrea> UBUNTU 11.04 is installing fine on my laptop, so I think maybe LTS might work better for my desktop. Also, I will be able to choose which drive to install it on correct? I have 2 hard drives.
[23:06] <Obsidian1723> yes
[23:06] <Kingsy> Obsidian1723: ok thanks.. well I gotta run
[23:06] <Kingsy> see you guys around. thanks for the help
[23:06] <Obsidian1723> same here. no problem. good luck with all of it.
[23:06] <ezrea> sweet, i know that was a dumb question. Just don't want to risk losing all my data in my win7 drive
[23:07] <Obsidian1723> ezrea: unlike Windows, Linux cn run from ANY drive.
[23:07] <Obsidian1723> It doesn't need a "C Drive"
[23:07] <Obsidian1723> Just be warned that if you re-install Windows, NTLDR will over-write Grub
[23:08] <Obsidian1723> easy fix though
[23:08] <ezrea> Yeah, I had Fedora installed on my secondary drive, but it is a bit of a hassle. UBUNTU looks much better
[23:08] <swig> ezrea, install Windows first if you can
[23:08] <Obsidian1723> Linux plays nice with Windows but Windows does not play nice with Linux. effing MSFT.
[23:08] <Obsidian1723> swig: exactly
[23:08] <Obsidian1723> and if you want to be extra anal, CloneZilla image that entire box
[23:08] <ciaus> Obsidian1723: LOL, Tell us how you REALLY feel.
[23:08] <gerzel> Oh, late thanks to whoever alerted me to restart alsa earlier.  Your advice worked.
[23:09] <swig> Obsidian1723, will update-grub find NTLDR on another drive?
[23:09] <Obsidian1723> ciaus: hehe I started computing back before Windows existed. I have sufferred
[23:09] <Obsidian1723> swig: grub replaces NTLDR
[23:09] <Obsidian1723> You cant (ideally) rin 2 bootloaders, nor would you need to.
[23:10] <zykotick9> swig, grub "should" be able to find windows installs on any drive attached to the machine
[23:10] <Obsidian1723> grub2 can do things (like boot to an ISO) that NTLDR can't.
[23:10] <Daghdha> Is there a graphical tool to set up NFS shares in Ubuntu?
[23:10] <swig> zykotick9, i am not sure.  Obsidian1723 might
[23:10] <Obsidian1723> Linux can read, but not write to, NTFS drives by default. For that, you need ntfs-3g
[23:10] <ezrea> I just switch in the BIOS which drive I wanna boot from. That is how I have been doing it. Less risk of screwing something up
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> grub2 can do so many things.. its almost its own os. :)
[23:10] <Obsidian1723> Daghdha: why do you want to use NFS?
[23:11] <linuxuz3r> Obsidian1723, is ntfs-3g stable?
[23:11] <swig> zykotick9, it can be configured manually but i don't know if update-grub will find Windows on a separate drive
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  given how simple nfs is to setup. :) never needed a gui.
[23:11] <Obsidian1723> I'd just use Samba, and there are some GREAT GUI tools for that, look at gadmin-samba
[23:11] <zykotick9> Obsidian1723, incorrect - you can write to NTFS on recent Ubuntu installs by default
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> linuxuz3r:  ntfs-3g homepage says it is. :) been around for a long time
[23:11] <Obsidian1723> ntfs-3g is stable, yes.
[23:11] <Daghdha> Dr_Willis: everthing benefits rom a gui
[23:11] <linuxuz3r> ok
[23:11] <zykotick9> swig, it will (it "should")
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  not really.
[23:12] <Obsidian1723> zykotick9: Ubuntu is Linux, but Linux is not Ubuntu. I am speaking about more than just one distro.
[23:12] <Obsidian1723> Ubuntu does a lot of non-standard things
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> make your own standard. :)
[23:12] <zykotick9> Obsidian1723, actually Ubuntu is GNU/Linux :P
[23:12] <Daghdha> cd Dog_Matix
[23:12] <Daghdha> oops :)
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> GnUbuntu.
[23:12] <Obsidian1723> STALLMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:12] <Obsidian1723> gadmin-tools are nice
[23:12] <Daghdha> (THat wouldn't have happened with a GUI)
[23:12] <Obsidian1723> sudo apt-cache gadmin*
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> !ebox
[23:13] <Obsidian1723> ubottu: Also, webmin
[23:13] <zykotick9> !webmin > Obsidian1723
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> Obsidian1723:  no... forget about webmin
[23:13] <Obsidian1723> tis ok hehe
[23:13] <ram0042> !ubottu
[23:13] <ezrea> burning of th LTS is almost done, hopping off, let all know how it goes
[23:14] <Haematoma> !polls
[23:14] <Haematoma> !polls Crain
[23:14] <Obsidian1723> zykotick9: so does webmin NOT work in the lTS?
[23:14] <zykotick9> Obsidian1723, webmin doesn't work anywhere!  the #debian factoid re:webmin is even better.
[23:15] <Obsidian1723> welp, time to remove that
[23:15] <Obsidian1723> so what replaces it?
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> theres alterasntives to webmin..
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> !ebox
[23:16] <Obsidian1723> ah Zentyal
[23:16] <Haematoma> !ebox
[23:16] <Pici> Haematoma: Stop that.
[23:16] <Haematoma> !stopwhat
[23:16] <Pici> Haematoma: /msg ubottu if you want to play, but theres no reason to continue to re-request factoids here right after they've been requested.
[23:16] <ciaus> !compile
[23:17] <ciaus> !compile kernel
[23:17] <Haematoma> !apt-get
[23:17] <bazhang> ciaus, /msg ubottu
[23:17] <imanc> hey - what would cause | to be displayed as ù ??
[23:17] <Haematoma> lol sorry Pici
[23:17] <zykotick9> Haematoma, ciaus use "/msg ubottu FOO"
[23:17] <imanc> I have set up a new ubuntu server and am seeing char issues
[23:17] <Haematoma> I can't help but feel mischievous today :)
[23:17] <Obsidian1723> Ill replace webmin, good to know. thanks.
[23:18] <bazhang> Haematoma, wrong channel for it. #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:18] <Haematoma> *end of offtopic convo*
[23:20] <ciaus> Obsidian1723: How do I recompile the kernel as it is now?
[23:21] <pragmaticenigma> ciaus: That is a little too advance for the scope of this chat root
[23:21] <pragmaticenigma> *room
[23:21] <ciaus> really?
[23:21] <ciaus> just the syntax?
[23:21] <sianhulo> people, when i try to run ANY .net aplication with mono, i get the following error http://pastebin.com/8gtKfXNx
[23:22] <pragmaticenigma> Why do you require a custom compiled kernel?
[23:22] <majorastro> is it worth it install ubuntu on a netbook
[23:22] <ciaus> need to recompile so the newly loaded drivers for the nic will be persistent after reboots
[23:23] <Goku283> yes
[23:23] <pragmaticenigma> What is the network device?
[23:23] <Goku283> Depends what you use the netbook for
[23:23] <majorastro> I have win 7 starter on my netbook now and its pretty snappy will ubuntu be snapier
[23:23] <ciaus> the onboard realtek nic 8111e
[23:24] <Daghdha> Can i run KDE network config items in ubuntu when i have GNome window manager?
[23:24] <Goku283> i dont see why not?
[23:24] <CheatEngine> I personally dislike gnome, however I suppose you could do that, Daghdha
[23:25] <Daghdha> "This package provides a System Settings panel to configure network file-sharing using NFS and Samba. This package is part of the KDE 4 networking module."
[23:25] <Daghdha> Ok, i'll install it then :P
[23:25] <com64> How do I remove my home folder encryption?
[23:25] <latagore> Hi, I want to install debian, but I'm not sure it supports ecryptfs like ubuntu.Does it?
[23:25] <pragmaticenigma> ciaus: that is an older card, that should be supported by the current kernel
[23:25] <chaospsychex> what's the command to move a folder from one directory to another?
[23:26] <com64> chaospsychex, mv -r
[23:26] <rww> latagore: ask #debian ;)
[23:26] <latagore> rww: Thanks
[23:26] <pragmaticenigma> chaospsychex: mv /folder /newfolderlocation
[23:26] <CheatEngine> anyone know of a good place to ask for arch linux install support?
[23:26] <com64> chaospsychex, mv -r folder newlocation/folder
[23:26] <CheatEngine> i believe #archlinux is +m
[23:26] <szal> CheatEngine: #archlinux
[23:27] <ciaus> pragmaticenigma: I promise you it isnt, not with my dlink 2640b router
[23:27] <pragmaticenigma> ciaus: your router has no effect on your system, they are independent
[23:27] <SHFFLE> Hello?
[23:27] <szal> CheatEngine: it may be at times, but normally the only requirement is that you have a registered nick
[23:27] <swig> latagore, ecryptfs is supported in Debian
[23:27] <CheatEngine> ahh okay szal, that may be why. i haven't registered this nick yet
[23:28] <SHFFLE> Hey, I've got an issue, or rather, a question about Ubuntu.
[23:28] <ciaus> pragmaticenigma: with default driver, I could not get a valid IP assigned via dhcp, at teh compstore where i bought it the default driver worked fine
[23:28] <SHFFLE> When installing, how lon should it be displaying the Ubuntu logo with the 5 dots?
[23:28] <chaospsychex> can someone help me? i want to extract an archive from the command line into a chosen folder
[23:28] <pragmaticenigma> ciaus: have you tried a difference cable?
[23:29] <ciaus> pragmaticenigma: am new to linux, not computing
[23:29] <somsip> SHFFLE: from live CD? Depends on your CD drive, but mine) that has subsequently died) took about 10 mins
[23:29] <swig> chaospsychex, what is the archive type, extension?
[23:29] <ciaus> pragmaticenigma: new cables, differnt router too
[23:29] <bambanx> hello
[23:29] <th0r> chaospsychex: what kind of archive?
[23:29] <chaospsychex> tar.bz2
[23:29] <pragmaticenigma> ciaus: same model router on both cases?
[23:29] <SHFFLE> somsip: Alright, suppose I'll just go wath a let's play or something in the meantime. Thanks!
[23:30] <chaospsychex> i want to extract it to a folder in the parent directory
[23:30] <ciaus> pragmaticenigma: even a differnt computer on same drops, and it worked but the ubuntu would not get a lease, nor take a static ip
[23:30] <SHFFLE> Watch*
[23:30] <ciaus> pragmaticenigma: nope tried tow differnt ones
[23:30] <ciaus> two
[23:30] <somsip> SHFFLE: yeah - don't rush it as long as it's whirring
[23:30] <dsnyders> HI all.  I have a network share open in Nautilus, and I have the option to unmount it.  However, the mount command does not show the share.  How do I cd to this folder?
[23:30] <chaospsychex> I am inside '/mnt/lfs/sources'
[23:31] <pragmaticenigma> ciaus: what all have you done with the network since installing ubuntu?
[23:31] <marcos_amaris> Amigos una pregunta
[23:31] <swig> chaospsychex, tar -xvjf -C /path/to/wherever
[23:31] <chaospsychex> I want to extract it to '/mnt/lfs/binutils-build/'
[23:31] <szal> !es | marcos_amaris
[23:31] <chaospsychex> -C ?
[23:31] <swig> chaospsychex, sorry, i meant tar -xvjf archive-file.tar.bz2 /path/to/wherever
[23:32] <chaospsychex> k
[23:32] <swig> chaospsychex, i can't type.  yeah -C
[23:32] <bambanx> a good wysiwyg editor for ubuntu guys?
[23:32] <Daghdha> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo  <- the part where it 'idents' after the LDAP authentication part.  Does it pertain to the security part or is it a geenral part? (This : /export       192.168.1.0/24(rw,fsid=0,insecure,no_subtree_check,async) )
[23:32] <ciaus> pragmaticenigma:  I have done due diligence to get the os up and running on the new desktop, the ONLY thing that has worked is to install drivers from realtek.com.
[23:33] <ciaus> pragmaticenigma: SO now i want to tkeep those drivers persistent between reboots
[23:33] <swig> chaospsychex, tar -xvjf archive-file.tar.bz2 -C /path/to/wherever
[23:33] <ciaus> pragmaticenigmA: tahs all
[23:33] <ciaus> thats
[23:33] <swig> chaospsychex, that is hard to type on a Droid Incredible ;)
[23:33] <chaospsychex> swig: whats the command to add a user to the 'sudoers' ?
[23:33] <Soci3ty> anyone hvaving ethernet problems
[23:34] <pragmaticenigma> ciaus: re-compiling the kernel isn't going to keep them persistant... you would be better to create a script that runs during boot to re-enable the driver
[23:34] <Soci3ty> on ubuntu 11.04
[23:34] <dsnyders> HI all!  How do you activate a mounted drive in nautilus?
[23:34] <Goku283> Sorry guys i would love to stay and participate and help further but im off now. Tks..
[23:34] <pragmaticenigma> ciaus: requires a lot less effort and is just as effective
[23:34] <ciaus> pragmaticenigma: im game...How?
[23:35] <chaospsychex> whats the command to add a user to the user-group 'sudoers' ?
[23:35] <zykotick9> ciaus, you mentioned you ran "make" did the instruction also mention "make install"?
[23:35] <pragmaticenigma> can you send me over the commands you use for enabling the nic (pastebin it or PM me please)
[23:35] <th0r> chaospsychex: use visudo to add the user to the sudoers file
[23:35] <ciaus> pragmaticenigma: Nope
[23:36] <pragmaticenigma> how are you enabling the device?
[23:36] <chaospsychex> th0r: my users is 'lfs' so 'visudo lfs' ?
[23:36] <ciaus> pragmaticenigma: Dont know the paste bin ....will pm
[23:36] <szal> !paste | ciaus
[23:36] <exutux> chaospsychex: just add your user to admin group
[23:36] <chaospsychex> command?
[23:36] <dsnyders> chaospsychex, visudo opens up the sudo file in vi.  ONce there, then you add your user.
[23:37] <exutux> chaospsychex: sudo adduser youruser admin
[23:37] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, see exutux's command above
[23:38] <exutux> dsnyders: don't need edit sudoers
[23:38] <Daghdha> is /export       192.168.1.0/24(rw,fsid=0,insecure,no_subtree_check,async)   required for nfs setup?
[23:38] <exutux> dsnyders: and visudo open file with nano
[23:39] <Soci3ty> its a wired network
[23:39] <com64> How do I remove encryption from my home folder? I'm having trouble with Thunar with it...
[23:39] <Soci3ty> theres no connectivity at all
[23:39] <Soci3ty> it worked on the older ubutnu
[23:39] <Soci3ty> 9.10
[23:39] <dsnyders> exutux, That may be, but 'visudo lfs' wasn't going to work.
[23:40] <Soci3ty> any ideas
[23:40] <exutux> dsnyders: I don't said that that "freaky command" going to work
[23:41] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Found it!  Hidden folder /home/dsnyders/.gvfs/
[23:43] <chaospsychex> root@Node1:/mnt/lfs/sources# tar -xvjf binutils-2.21.tar.bz2 ../binutils-build
[23:43] <chaospsychex> tar: ../binutils-build: Not found in archive
[23:43] <chaospsychex> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[23:43] <chaospsychex> ????
[23:44] <ezrea> Well, I think UBUNTU officially hates my desktop. Install cd for 11.04 and 10.04LTS both will not work. 11.04 cd worked on my laptop but gave me critical hardware errors on my desktop. 10.04 gave me no errors but wqould never finish loading, just restarted itself after the loaading screen went for a little while
[23:44] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, just create the directory you want, move the .bz2 into the folder then extract normally
[23:44] <bronaugh> ezrea: have you run memtest86+ on your machine? should make sure the hw is sound...
[23:45] <ezrea> where do I get that at?
[23:45] <Joe0006> wooot
[23:45] <bronaugh> http://www.memtest.org/
[23:45] <Joe0006> you still talking about 10.04
[23:45] <zykotick9> ezrea, memtest is on the LiveCD
[23:45] <cykros> okay, this issue is making me, a linux user over over 10 years, feel pretty stupid, but i can't seem to figure out how to make a new user i just added able to play audio.
[23:45] <Joe0006> 2 hours passed already
[23:45] <ezrea> simple enough
[23:45]  * ezrea facepalms
[23:45] <cykros> i'm sure it has to be a permissions issue.
[23:45] <cykros> sorry, heh, never had a multi-user desktop...i just had remote users at most.
[23:46] <bronaugh> zykotick9: yeah, it's not on my install CD -- didn't want to recommend something that wouldn't work.
[23:46] <zykotick9> bronaugh, what is the "install CD"?
[23:46] <cykros> anyway, i tried adding the user to the group plugdev, then audio (then making sure they WEREN'T in audio)...
[23:46] <ezrea> will it work in windows?
[23:46] <cykros> tried making the new user from cli and from the gnome tool
[23:46] <cykros> no avail yet.
[23:47] <cykros> the sound card works for my primary user though
[23:47] <bronaugh> zykotick9: uh, in this case, I believe it's the Ubuntu desktop ISO.
[23:47] <zykotick9> cykros, try adding the user to the "audio" group - in your terminal type "groups" to see what you are in, probably the new user should be in the same (except perhaps admin, if you want to prevent sudo)
[23:48] <zykotick9> bronaugh, memtest is an option on every Ubuntu LiveCD that I'm aware of
[23:48] <bronaugh> zykotick9: shrug. ok.
[23:48] <bronaugh> doesn't matter to me. that's an easier option anyways.-
[23:48] <cykros> yea, hrm. figured that would work, but i only wanted as many permissions as necessary for this user
[23:48] <cykros> oh well, i'll give that a shot i guess
[23:48] <vvictor> r isso ai vei
[23:49] <vvictor> tem brasileiro ai carai?
[23:49] <chaospsychex> ok say i have foo.tar.bz2 and i want to extract it into the folder foobar, what's the command to do this?
[23:49] <IdleOne> !br | vvictor
[23:49] <vvictor> oloco meu
[23:49] <vvictor> ubuntu é meu sistema
[23:49] <linuxuz3r> !br > vvictor
[23:49] <vvictor> botei visual kdr
[23:49] <linuxuz3r> !br > vvictor
[23:49] <linuxuz3r> woops
[23:49] <cykros> this is weird...there's nothing that looks like it has anything to do with audio with those groups...
[23:50] <th0r> chaospsychex: try 'man tar'
[23:50]  * mridox says hello all !
[23:50] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, perhaps -C but why don't you make your life easy and just move the file?
[23:50] <cykros> dialout, sambashare, lpadmin...
[23:50] <cykros> adm
[23:50] <cykros> actually, no, the new user is in adm
[23:51] <bl4ckcomb`> \o/ finished automatic dvd ripper
[23:51] <cykros> hrm. except this odd group, "dip"
[23:52] <ezrea> going to use memtest, bbl
[23:53] <cykros> yea, actually, the new user has more groups than my primary one. only ones missing are lpadmin, admin, and sambashare
[23:53] <cykros> ...i can't see how those groups should affect audio playing
[23:54] <helloC> hello
[23:54] <zykotick9> cykros, is the new user in the audio group?  and/or video?
[23:54] <cykros> the new user is in the video group. no users are in the audio group.
[23:54] <com64> How do I remove home folder encryption?
[23:54] <cykros> and the primary user can play audio
[23:55] <cykros> also, i tried adding the user to the audio group. no luck
[23:55] <Daghdha> ount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting localhost:/mnt/DownloadsNFS/
[23:55] <cykros> com64: my advice would be to copy the stuff out of the encrypted folder to another one,
[23:55] <cykros> and then probably remake the user.
[23:55] <cykros> idk, someone else may have a simpler alternative
[23:55] <com64> huh..
[23:56] <helloC> anyone has taken the Linux Profesional INstitute test?
[23:56] <chaospsychex> man tar  still hasn't helped me or answered my question
[23:56] <com64> well, the only reason I need to do this is because Thunar is being funny with it.
[23:56] <com64> Error stating file '/home/daniel/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected."
[23:56] <cykros> com64: cd ~; cp ./* /path/to/other/unencrypted/folder
[23:56] <com64> so I can't access it in thunar
[23:56] <cykros> hmm. idk, never used thunar
[23:56] <com64> I can access any subfolder though
[23:56] <com64> strange...
[23:56] <sosaited> How can I transfer files from a server in which I am logged in with ssh, to my client computer?
[23:56] <com64> scp
[23:57] <com64> scp file user@address
[23:57] <cykros> yea, scp, or sftp
[23:57] <com64> scp file user@address/path
[23:57] <com64> use it every day to transfer stuff to my linux handheld.
[23:57] <zykotick9> sosaited, if you use Gnome on the client (and want a GUI method) - Places / Connect to Server / select SSH / enter info
[23:58] <sosaited> zykotick9, Do I need an open port on my client?
[23:58] <zykotick9> sosaited, not if you can already ssh to the server
[23:58] <cykros> alright, trying admin privileges on my new user. this better not work, because i don't need another user able to sudo./
[23:59] <cykros> though, i guess i could change my sudo policy to require the root password instead of the user's
[23:59] <cykros> it's not that i don't trust my user, its that i don't want the account to be used for privilege escalation if compromised.
[23:59] <cykros> heh, the user happens to be my girlfriend of 1+ years, and meanwhile is computer illiterate
[23:59] <cykros> well, may as well be.