[07:06] <oSoMoN> good morning
[08:26] <czajkowski> Aloha
[08:59] <andyrock> DBO, present?
[09:06] <davidcalle> Hi andyrock!
[09:06] <andyrock> hey davidcalle
[09:06] <davidcalle> andyrock, how are you?
[09:07] <andyrock> davidcalle, not so good... i'm a little ill
[09:07] <andyrock> what about you?
[09:07] <davidcalle> I'm fine, at work.
[09:08] <andyrock> davidcalle, you're lucky since you have a job :)
[09:08] <davidcalle> andyrock, indeed. I'm even enjoying it from time to time ;)
[09:09] <andyrock> davidcalle, ;)
[10:15] <andyrock> JohnLea, around?
[10:15] <JohnLea> andyrock; yes, hi
[10:16] <andyrock> JohnLea, about https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/764751
[10:16] <andyrock> can you read the last two comments?
[10:16] <andyrock> please :)
[10:17] <JohnLea> yes, it should be marked as fixed, thx ;-)
[10:17] <JohnLea> well, as soon as the other bug is fixed ;-)
[10:17] <JohnLea> marking as a dupe
[10:18] <andyrock> JohnLea, thx :)
[10:19] <andyrock> there is a merge proposal btw :)
[10:23] <cdbs> DBO: Hi, since I'm moving to Canada today, I might not be able to get online before around, say, Tuesday. So, could you ensure that https://code.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar/unity/software-center-integration-for-o/+merge/71905 gets merged atleast before UIF? Thanks!
[10:23] <cdbs> s/gets merged/gets reviewed/
[11:23] <mardy> Can please someone running unity-2d try this out:
[11:23] <mardy> from a terminal, as a user, run /usr/sbin/synaptic
[11:24] <mardy> on the dialog which will appear, click OK
[11:24] <mardy> then check the application title, is it OK, or is it empty?
[11:45] <andyrock> njpatel, the window buttons don't respect theme (also using radiance or ambiance)
[11:45] <andyrock> it's a bug? or it's by design?
[11:48] <njpatel> andyrock, local unity or system one?
[11:48] <njpatel> Cimi__, made some changes there
[11:48] <andyrock> njpatel, both system one and local one...
[11:49] <njpatel> andyrock, not sure then? could you have a peek at the code? it's meant to look in the theme to see if there is a unity folder, otherwise fallback
[11:49] <njpatel> maybe it's not finding the folder
[11:50] <andyrock> njpatel, ok... so it's a bug. Let me try
[11:50] <njpatel> thanks dude
[11:50] <andyrock> njpatel, thx btw
[12:05] <andyrock> njpatel, done :)
[12:05] <andyrock> just a question
[12:05] <andyrock> const char* var = g_getenv("GTK_DATA_PREFIX");
[12:05] <andyrock>      if (!var)
[12:05] <andyrock> -      var = "/usr";
[12:05] <andyrock> +      var = "/usr/share/themes";
[12:05] <andyrock>  
[12:05] <andyrock>      glib::String filename(g_build_filename(var, _theme_name, subpath.str().c_str(), NULL));
[12:05] <andyrock>  
[12:06] <andyrock> or i have to add share/themes to g_build_filename?
[12:09] <njpatel> andyrock, i think what you did is  finee
[12:11] <andyrock> njpatel, reading here http://www.lanedo.com/~carlos/gtk3-doc/GtkCssProvider.html
[12:12] <andyrock> maybe is better adding it to g_build_filename
[12:12] <andyrock> *it is
[12:12] <njpatel> yes, your right :)
[12:47] <Cimi__> my connection sucks today
[12:50] <Cimi__> njpatel: feel free to merge andyrock patch
[12:50] <Cimi__> njpatel: was my fault
[12:51] <mpt> Cimi, yo
[12:51] <mpt> I have a couple of questions about the theme, one simple and one not-so-simple
[12:52] <Cimi> mpt: all is simple for me
[12:52] <Cimi> yo
[12:52] <mpt> heh
[12:53] <Cimi> mpt: ok, shoot<1
[12:53] <Cimi> !
[12:54] <mpt> Cimi, first: There seems to be a small regression in the Oneiric theme, where radio menus (ComboBox, OptionMenu) have only an arrow pointing down, rather than a pair pointing up and down
[12:55] <Cimi> mpt: totally agree, could you please file a bug against gtk? gtk+ does the same too
[12:55] <Cimi> mpt: I could workaround in the engine, maybe next week
[12:55] <mpt> great
[12:55] <Cimi> (well, I need to see)
[12:56] <Cimi> (was on my list to things to remind you :D)
[12:56] <mpt> Cimi, "gtk+3.0" package?
[12:56] <Cimi> mpt: well, I think it could be gtkthemingengine too
[12:56] <Cimi> mpt: it's in gtk+3, master too
[12:57] <Cimi> mpt: explain the rationale why they should point both up and down
[12:57] <mpt> sure thing
[12:57] <mpt> Cimi, the possibly-not-so-simple one: One thing that always bugged me about the Light themes is that they don't distinguish between palette windows and other windows
[12:58] <mpt> In Windows, Mac, and (I think) even Clearlooks, palette windows have a smaller title bar (and therefore smaller close+minimize buttons) than other windows
[12:58] <mpt> That way you can tell, just by looking, that they're going to float on top of the other windows
[12:58] <Cimi> mpt: palette windows?
[12:58] <Cimi> mpt: utility?
[12:59] <Cimi> mpt: (gimp's toolbox)
[12:59] <mpt> yeah
[13:00] <Cimi> mpt: bug in compiz, plus something I should do in light-themes
[13:00] <mpt> and Gimp's "Tool Options" window, "Layers" window, etc
[13:01] <mpt> Cimi, so should I report one bug affecting both of those two?
[13:01] <Cimi> mpt: indeed, compiz didn't support them
[13:01] <Cimi> mpt: with the work done for dialog windows
[13:01] <Cimi> mpt: I guess support was added
[13:01] <Cimi> mpt: but you know, it was removed
[13:01] <Cimi> mpt: now if compiz passes the tests, it'll be reuploaded
[13:02] <mpt> Cimi, so you actually have code+artwork for that already?
[13:02] <Cimi> mpt: if that will happen, I need to draw the different state for the utility windows
[13:02] <mpt> ah
[13:02] <Cimi> mpt: code should be on the way, ask smspillazz
[13:02] <Cimi> mpt: light-themes not
[13:02] <Cimi> mpt: and I don't have visual assets for them
[13:03] <Cimi> mpt: what I could do is make them squared
[13:03] <kenvandine> cdbs, ping
[13:03] <Cimi> mpt: and maybe reduce the size, but preserving the size of the buttons as I don't have different assets
[13:05] <cdbs> kenvandine: Poingo
[13:05] <kenvandine> hey cdbs
[13:05] <kenvandine> the "avatars not loading" problem
[13:05] <cdbs> Hi ken
[13:05] <kenvandine> is that just displaying the nobody icon?
[13:05] <cdbs> :)
[13:05] <kenvandine> or is it not loading the stream?
[13:05] <cdbs> yes
[13:06] <cdbs> Its loading the stream
[13:06] <cdbs> but displaying the generic nobody icon
[13:06] <kenvandine> do you have notifications turned off?
[13:06] <cdbs> except for a very small number of people in my stream
[13:06]  * cdbs checks
[13:07] <cdbs> kenvandine: no
[13:07] <cdbs> I just turned them on though
[13:07] <Cimi> mpt: roger?
[13:07] <kenvandine> cdbs, ok... that is why
[13:07] <kenvandine> they get cached when it notifies
[13:07] <kenvandine> but
[13:07] <kenvandine> that will change
[13:07] <mpt> Cimi, what would it take to get the assets?
[13:07] <kenvandine> njpatel is going to fix it so they load async in the stream
[13:07] <cdbs> kenvandine: I mean, it was turned off, but I just turned them on
[13:07] <cdbs> okie, nice to know
[13:08] <kenvandine> cdbs, i assumed so
[13:08] <mpt> Cimi, I got the impression from Otto that you had drawn the full-size ones
[13:08] <kenvandine> i took a stab at it, but made scrolling dirt slow
[13:08] <Cimi> mpt: I mean, if otto wants something different, I need him to draw special buttons
[13:08] <kenvandine> so njpatel is going to work his magic and make it not suck
[13:08] <cdbs> thanks kenvandine , gwibber is awesome already :)
[13:08] <kenvandine> cdbs, :)
[13:08] <kenvandine> right njpatel? :-D
[13:08] <Cimi> mpt: if he wants the same buttons, I have full control over the rest
[13:10] <mpt> Cimi, well, they need to be the same but smaller. :-) Does that require new artwork?
[13:11] <Cimi> mpt: yes
[13:11] <mpt> I guess it does for the symbols inside them
[13:11] <mpt> otherwise they'd blur
[13:11] <mpt> ok, I'll go back to Otto
[13:11] <mpt> Cimi, would it be useful to report a bug to track it in the meantime?
[13:12] <Cimi> mpt: no, I already opened a bugreport in my brain and I assigned it to myself. It is faster than launchpad and I receive instant notifications
[13:12] <mpt> brilliant
[13:12] <Cimi> :)
[13:13] <mpt> I'll just tap you on the head whenever I need to see the status
[13:13] <Cimi> lol
[13:13] <Cimi> ;)
[13:14] <mpt> Cimi, reported bug 829425 about the menu arrows
[13:14] <Cimi> mpt: ops
[13:15] <Cimi> mpt: gnome bugzilla :)
[13:15] <mpt> oh
[13:15] <Cimi> mpt: it's affecting upstream gtk
[13:15] <mpt> ok
[13:15] <Cimi> (look at adwaita)
[13:15] <Cimi> sorry for the misunderstood
[13:24] <mpt> Cimi, I reported it upstream and linked it
[13:24] <Cimi> mpt: I'll be out for a couple of hours, just tell otto to give me the new buttons for both Ambiance and Radiance in dropbox, and I'll play with them in the evening
[13:24] <Cimi> mpt: awesome
[13:25] <mpt> ok, thanks muchly Cimi
[13:25] <Cimi> mpt: and you've seen they were all simple questions :)
[13:25] <mpt> so they were
[13:36] <njpatel> cdbs, kenvandine, yes, definitely :)
[13:41]  * kenvandine hugs njpatel
[13:44] <cdbs> njpatel is a magician :)
[13:45]  * cdbs also hugs njpatel 
[13:45] <njpatel> cdbs, I reviewed your branch, hopefully what I said makes sense  :)
[13:46]  * cdbs checks
[13:48] <cdbs> njpatel: thanks a lot for the review! /me looks at the unity::blahblah source code
[13:48] <njpatel> haha
[14:05] <Morta> hello
[14:06] <Morta> anyone?
[14:09] <Omega> hi
[14:35] <andyrock> njpatel, i want use nautilus 3 dbus inteface to run the confirmation dialog when "Empty trash" is activated from launcher
[14:35] <njpatel> nice
[14:35] <njpatel> andyrock, I was just peeking at your branch :)
[14:36] <andyrock> now i've used glib::DBusProx
[14:36] <andyrock> *Proxy
[14:36] <njpatel> yeah, excellent :)
[14:36] <andyrock> but i don't know if it's fine having proxy as a private member
[14:36] <andyrock> or i have to create a new proxy every time
[14:37] <njpatel> andyrock, new proxy everytime? when?
[14:37] <andyrock> everytime "empty trash" is activated
[14:38] <janimo> marn
[14:39] <njpatel> andyrock, oh
[14:39] <njpatel> andyrock, private member variable
[14:39] <njpatel> andyrock, it's async so it wouldn't work great as a local variable
[14:40] <andyrock> ok i have to add some stuff to make sure that proxy is connected when Call method is called :)
[14:40] <njpatel> andyrock, does nautilus do dbus activation?
[14:41] <njpatel> andyrock, if so, it should be fine to just call it, activation will take care of the rest
[14:42] <andyrock> njpatel, i have to check if a file service for natuilus exists in /usr/share/dbus-1/services right?
[14:43] <njpatel> andyrock, right
[14:43] <andyrock> [D-BUS Service]
[14:43] <andyrock> Name=org.gnome.Nautilus
[14:43] <andyrock> Exec=/usr/bin/nautilus --no-default-window
[14:43] <njpatel> andyrock, yep
[14:43] <njpatel> so you're safe
[14:44] <andyrock> ok... so the newer TrashLauncherIcon.cpp is cleaner than the last one :)
[14:44] <andyrock> i love outsourcing :)
[14:46] <andyrock> njpatel, can i use lambda c++0x function too?
[14:47] <njpatel> heh
[14:47] <njpatel> andyrock, yep
[14:47] <njpatel> as long as it's not crazy like what gord likes to do ;)
[14:47] <andyrock> cool :)
[14:47] <gord> if its not a lambda, its a bug
[14:48] <gord> lambda aspect programming is the way for the future
[14:48] <andyrock> lamda + async stuff lol :)
[14:56] <DBO> andyrock, merged your branch
[14:56] <DBO> its AWESOME
[14:56] <DBO> you rock dude
[14:56] <DBO> many kudos
[14:56] <DBO> love, and respect
[14:56] <andyrock> DBO, if i rock you are superman :)
[14:57] <DBO> jcastro, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk/revision/1399
[14:58] <jcastro> whoa, DBO, you did a review?
[14:58] <jcastro> nice!
[14:58] <jcastro> (heh, just kidding)
[14:58] <DBO> shutup bitch
[14:58] <jcastro> ok so what does this do? the description is confusing
[14:58] <jcastro> something about DND
[14:59] <jcastro> what's like, an example?
[16:12] <Andy80> hi all
[16:12] <Andy80> Kaleo: hi :) you have any news about this https://code.launchpad.net/~andreagrandi/unity-2d/trash-nautilus-setting/+merge/70583 ? I've some spare time to try to fix it, if I only could get some feedback about my last comments ;)
[16:58] <ephan>  00
[16:58] <ephan> oops, nvm
[17:03] <Kaleo> Andy80: I'm on it :)
[17:04] <Andy80> Kaleo: good :)
[17:06] <andyrock> om26er, around?
[17:07] <om26er> andyrock, yes i am here and the regression is fixed thx
[17:08] <om26er> andyrock, your branch did awesome things ;)
[17:08] <om26er> andyrock, that firefox bug is fixed btw
[17:08] <andyrock> well seb128 released unity 4.8.2ubuntu3 (and ubuntu 4 right now)
[17:08] <andyrock> so why the bug is "fix-commited"? :)
[17:08] <andyrock> sorry if i'm wrong
[17:09] <jcastro> I think it "releases" when it's published
[17:09] <jcastro> iirc it's automatic
[17:09] <andyrock> jcastro, but it's aleady published :)
[17:09] <Kaleo> Andy80: replied!
[17:09] <jcastro> andyrock: oh, I haven't gotten it yet
[17:10] <om26er> andyrock, back
[17:10] <andyrock> om26er, well seb128 released unity 4.8.2ubuntu3 (and ubuntu 4 right now)
[17:10] <andyrock> so why the bug is "fix-commited"? :)
[17:10] <andyrock> sorry if i'm wrong
[17:10] <om26er> andyrock, fix committed only for unity upstream
[17:11] <om26er> because new tarball was not released
[17:11] <om26er> andyrock, seb pulled from trunk till I think commit# 1400 and uploaded it
[17:12] <om26er> andyrock, though I have a bug for you :p
[17:12] <om26er> drag and drop issue
[17:13] <andyrock> drag and drop + scale mode right?
[17:13] <andyrock> om26er, ^^^
[17:13] <om26er> andyrock, yes problem specific to two or more than two windows
[17:14] <andyrock> well this bug is present also without my patch right?
[17:15] <om26er> andyrock, maybe I never use dnd ;)
[17:15] <andyrock> om26er, can you open (eventually) a new bug and assign it to me?
[17:16] <om26er> andyrock, sure, I will do that.
[17:16] <andyrock> om26er, i will work on it as soon as possible (i'm working on cairo stuff right know)
[17:16] <andyrock> *know->now
[17:16] <om26er> andyrock, the fade to show the menubar?
[17:16] <om26er> *applications menu
[17:17] <andyrock> right, but there are some problem with the current implementation
[17:17] <om26er> :/
[17:18] <om26er> andyrock, the change will be cool though
[17:18] <andyrock> om26er, indeed... but before I assign it to me i want to study it a little more
[17:19] <om26er>  andyrock is hard at work ;)
[21:21] <sethish> In unity-2d why does Empathy flash its icon and the messaging menu?  And how do I get it to stop constantly covering my other work by activating the unity-2d icon panel?
[21:22] <sethish> I really like Unity-2d otherwise, but I stopped using it because I can't figure out how to make it stop.
[21:30] <jbicha> you could stop using Empathy...lol
[21:31] <jbicha> I believe that behavior is by design, I don't use Empathy so I don't know if there's a way to change it
[21:41] <sethish> I turned off all of empathy's notify features
[23:39] <Andy80> I don't know if this is the right place where to discuss this, but.... is there any dedicated team in Ubuntu that work to make it more accessible to "special people"? I mean.. blind people, or someone who can have any problem using a keyboard ecc....?
[23:39] <nhaines> Andy80: that's the Ubuntu Accessiblity Team.
[23:40] <Andy80> nhaines: oh, thank you!
[23:40] <Andy80> :)
[23:40] <Andy80> I'll google to search more info
[23:40] <nhaines> Andy80: you're welcome.  :)