[00:02] * yofel does one last attempt in rebuilding kde-runtime [00:06] yofel, I want to help but am a bit stuck with low bandwidth and low battery now, which I can fix in a few minutes hopefully [00:07] ah, well, we have kded4 stuck with 100% CPU in oneiric after login, and trying to start it after killing it gives: [00:07] kded4: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/ntrack/modules/ntrack-libnl3.so: undefined symbol: ntrack_list_insert_sorted [00:07] ok [00:08] I have kubuntu installed on this system so it should be fairly easy to reproduce [00:28] d'oh, I had dbus not want to start... [00:30] yofel: so, where are you at with debugging this, and where can I help? [00:32] about what I said, kded4 is stuck with 100% CPU at login. Attaching gdb to it yields http://paste.kde.org/111499. Trying to restart it so I can debug it fails with the mentioned symbol error [00:32] and 'nm -DC /usr/lib/ntrack/modules/ntrack-libnl3.so' gives U ntrack_list_insert_sorted [00:32] for that symbol [00:35] ah [00:36] well, the fact that the symbol is undefined there may be normal, given that this is a module to ntrack, the symbol would be in /usr/lib/libntrack.so.0 [00:37] checking your paste now [00:38] hey guys :P I have just run mkfs.ext4 instead of fsck.ext :P now, on reiserfs when I did this (no it's not that common), I ran a reiser tool --rebuild-tree, with ext4 I have no idea what's best.. someone has an advice? [00:39] btw mkfs should ask me if I really want to do that... [00:44] * yofel is off to bed, good night === bcooksley is now known as bcooksley-away [01:37] cyphermox: If your dbus won't start in KDE, make sure you have the latest qt4-x11 and qdbus is installed. [01:38] dantti: My first advice is if you're on ReiserFS, get off of it. It's unmaintained for a really long time. [01:38] ScottK: I wish I was on it... last time I did that it restored everything very easily... [01:39] I'm not saying the design is bad, but bit rotting file systems are not a good thing. [01:39] reiserfs something --rebuild-tree :P [01:39] but now I'm on ext4.. [01:40] there is the TestDisk tool I'm looking at.. [01:40] but the problem is that I can't dd my file system (2TB), I have a small 250gb which could receive the files.. [01:48] Dunno about that then. [01:50] ... I changed the ext superblock.. let's hope I won't loose more stuff :P [03:55] weeeeee thsi is fun [03:56] name in lower caps! [03:57] shocking [03:57] okay, running dist-upgrade on oneiric alpha 1 takes me places. It will go to the login but once I start a profile. It tells me "Could not start D-Bus. Can you call qdbus?" [03:57] damn netbook === darkwingduck is now known as Darkwingduck [03:57] darkwingduck: dist-upgrading should fix it === Darkwingduck is now known as DarkwingDuck [03:57] or just manually install qdbus [03:57] JontheEchidna: it happened when I dist-upgraded [03:57] :s [03:58] I dunno what to tell you then. That should be the fix and it has worked for people. :( [03:59] Yeah, trust my lappy to be the only one out there. LOL [03:59] JontheEchidna: You going to be in Orlando in Oct? [03:59] nah, got skool then [04:00] dang [04:00] I can only ever make it to the ones in may because of that [04:00] ahhhh [04:00] I'll try to make it in may [04:00] I don't want to have to do the remote thing again. [04:00] it's not so bad remoting on the non-overseas ones [04:01] Yeah, for me it started at midnight [04:01] That was one LOOOOOOONG week [04:02] hmmm, dist-upgraded again... [04:02] I find that I don't get jetlagged, if I just don't sleep on the first day until it's bedtime locally [04:02] There was 41 packages that it didn't upgrade the first time. [04:02] * DarkwingDuck ponders [04:02] prolly needed to refresh the sources list again or something [04:02] Who knwos. [04:02] It's my laptop so, it's bound to have stange issues [04:10] this lappy upgraded to KDE 4.7 with no problem [04:10] but my little netbook - plasma has to be started by hand [04:10] every time [04:10] very strange === bcooksley-away is now known as bcooksley [04:10] yay back [04:11] and it works now [04:11] my netbook is so on it's last legs... [04:11] And I'm not looking forward to lugging this thinkpad around UDS [04:35] ScottK: you still up by any off chance? [04:40] I have an interesting issue [04:40] With my server. [04:41] It wont get past GRUB, black screen then my moniter goes to sleep. However, if I boot into recovery then resume normal boot then it works. [04:48] DarkwingDuck: have you done a repair of grub or grub2? [04:48] * valorie had grub problems once too [06:04] Good morning === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [06:47] ScottK: https://code.launchpad.net/~quintasan/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace/+merge/72141 [06:48] That should do the trick [06:48] I removed my previous branch and added everthing in one commit [08:08] ulmlogger: it made plasma-desktop start [08:44] bulldog98_: then you are using it wrong :P [08:45] >>> grep Hidden * [08:45] krunner.desktop:Hidden=true [08:45] plasma-desktop.desktop:Hidden=true [08:45] plasma-netbook.desktop:Hidden=true [08:45] plasma-tablet.desktop:Hidden=false [08:45] of course if your .kde overrides this there wont be much goodness coming out of it [08:55] morning [09:35] bambee: type "ericm" [09:35] * Quintasan wants to test highlight [09:35] ericm [09:35] ? [09:35] doesnt work [09:35] ffs [09:51] https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2Dsb0_7CNrM/TXjR7Uw3deI/AAAAAAAAAB4/H1_5yc-J0ZI/s400/somemuppetcallskubuntu.jpg [09:52] I can't stop laughing at this === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter [11:34] Any ideas why plasma-widget-quickaccess is now in Universe? [11:36] reference bug 805960 [11:36] Launchpad bug 805960 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "quickaccess widget not found" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805960 [11:42] mfraz74: we don't install it anymore by default [11:43] debfx: but there is a big red/white x icon where it used to be [11:44] mfraz74: yes, ulmlogger was just too lazy to upload the fix [11:45] what is the progress on digikam2? [11:48] it looks like 90% of the kubuntu developers have discovered their love for tablets and thus spend their time on getting plasma active to work on kubuntu [11:48] mfraz74: fails to build for me, and _Groo_ still hasn't published what he has [11:48] which obviously leave not much time for anything else [11:49] yep [11:51] yay, I have a fix for the "kded4 eats your cpu" issue [11:51] * yofel hugs debfx [11:53] any idea why Firefox doesn't have the kde look? [11:54] ah, then I'm not the only one at least that oxygen-gtk doesn't work for anymore since like yesterday [11:55] thought it might be something like that [11:55] another thing, amarok keeps asking me to install the same extra packages [11:57] Quintasan, morning :-) [12:01] kde-workspace has a bad way to detect if gtk2-engines-oxygen is installed that breaks for multiarched packages [12:02] I'm working on a fix for that [12:04] rbelem: You call that morning? I'm up since 7 in the morning :D [12:05] debfx: You're serious?! [12:05] What's the cause? ntrack? [12:05] yes [12:05] Quintasan, :-D [12:05] bug #750554 [12:05] Ehh, curses [12:06] Launchpad bug 750554 in ntrack (Ubuntu) "0.14: nl modules are not linked with libntrack even if they use symbols from it" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/750554 [12:06] Quintasan, i almost did not sleep [12:06] Quintasan, my son got a flu [12:06] Oh :< [12:06] Quintasan, but he is ok now :-) [12:07] rbelem: Did you try curing him with Kubuntu Active? ;) [12:07] 9 out of 10 patients have recovered after playing with Kubuntu Active [12:07] :D === ximion2 is now known as ximion [12:08] Quintasan, :-D i put an ubuntu tshirt on him and he started to feel better [12:08] rbelem: About plasma magic, I think ScottK approved FFe's and we should have them uploaded soon [12:08] Quintasan, probably the kubuntu active will heal him completely [12:08] Quintasan, awesome! [12:08] * rbelem hugs Quintasan [12:09] ScottK: Who is the most appropriate person to upload? [12:09] * Quintasan need to get a long labcoat [12:10] * rbelem starts to dance waltz with Quintasan [12:10] :-D [12:10] You'd better stop, I'm not sure when we get it uploaded :P [12:11] kk :-D [12:11] s-l-c and plasma-mobile have to be uploaded, right? [12:11] Quintasan, yup [12:11] also ulmlogger is supposed to fix some patch in workspace so we can upload it with my KWin GLES branch [12:12] awesome [12:12] then i will test that on aRRRRRRRM === ximion_ is now known as ximion [12:14] Do you have enough rum to handle ARM? [12:15] Quintasan, not currently, but i will run for a rum :-D [12:17] Quintasan, brrrrin' me some rum [12:18] >implying I have enough money to buy rum for myself [12:18] Quintasan, :-D [12:18] Quintasan, i just installed the filters pkg [12:19] What's that? [12:19] Quintasan, it has the pirate filter [12:20] Quintasan: !me since I need to do the New review. I think it's fine, however. [12:20] Quintasan: I'm still waiting for some convincing or a separate binary approach for -runtime as it's scaring me. === bcooksley is now known as bcooksley-away [12:26] ScottK: ulmlogger did not convince you? [12:27] I think he convinced me we needed separate binaries although that may not have been his intent. [12:27] Curses. [12:27] That was about the time we noticed you were expert at coaxing double builds out of KDE packages. [12:27] Yeah, I just remembered that myself. [12:28] Unfortunately for him I'm a bit busy since we're moving stuff around the house [12:29] >aseigo: in Hong Konq [12:29] >Konq [12:29] Well played sir, well played. [12:29] * ScottK has been busy with NBS and fixing stuff. [12:29] KDE NBS is ~half what it was before yesterday. [12:30] (as an added bonus, kdelibs is gone finally) [12:30] NBS? [12:30] Not Built from Source [12:30] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html [12:30] All that stuff needs to be updated or removed before release. [12:31] Ah [12:31] I see [12:36] * Quintasan goes out to look for labcoats [12:36] bbl [12:49] ScottK: could you sponsor an ntrack upload: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Qs6J3znB === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [13:12] debfx: I can. [13:13] debfx: Does this same problem exist in natty? [13:14] ScottK: nope, it has only been broken since the last upload [13:15] OK. I have an intermittent process going to 100% CPU and staying there problem on natty that I want to blame on ntrack. [13:15] (on natty) [13:22] which process? [13:27] It varies. [13:27] It seems to only be ones that use the network though. [13:28] debfx: I'm a bit confused about ntrack only being broken since the last upload. The bug you're fixing in debian/changelog was filed well before the current package? [13:31] ScottK: the bug was filed against the upstream project [13:31] Ah. [13:31] debfx: OK. I just uploaded it. Thanks for fixing. [14:22] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [14:22] <_Groo_> guys when i get a dh_auto_build: error: unable to chdir to obj-x86_64-linux-gnu in debuild, what should i do? cant figure this one out [14:27] _Groo_: a) where's digikam b) does digikam build in oneiric for you c) can you give the full build log for your failure? [14:27] <_Groo_> anyone? [14:28] <_Groo_> yofel: a) i have been very busy this week, i have the package, if you want i can send you the debian.tar.gz b) didnt tested in oneiric but should work c) wheres does debuild puts the build log? [14:29] <_Groo_> yofel: more about a) since today is friday ill be able to upload to my ppa tonight.. i couldnt all week :( have come home very late and tired [14:29] _Groo_: a) I do need it rather fast though b) digikam builds in natty but NOT in oneiric for me c) nowhere unless you redirect stdout and stderr to a logfile yourself [14:30] <_Groo_> yofel: i know about feature freeze, ill be on tonight, what time is it over there? [14:30] <_Groo_> yofel: c) i recloned the git dir and it worked now.. something in old git poluted debui;d.. i need to find out what it was.. it happens ocasionally wiht git... [14:30] <_Groo_> yofel: still have the old git [14:31] well, feature freeze is already past, so a few hours don't matter, but I need a package for oneiric [14:33] <_Groo_> yofel: i asked the time to see if youll be on when im at home [14:33] <_Groo_> yofel: can i see the buildlog of the failed oneiric? [14:34] this is still a local build - http://paste.kde.org/111787 [14:34] <_Groo_> did you build kipi-plugins too? or just digikam2? [14:34] that's digikam as it's shipped in the tar [14:35] so with kipi [14:35] <_Groo_> the bin file might call itself digikam, but its really digikam2 :D [14:35] odd is that it already links with '-L/usr/lib -lgphoto2_port -L/usr/lib -lgphoto2 -lgphoto2_port -lm' so I have no idea what's wrong [14:36] well, the name doesn't really matter [14:37] <_Groo_> yofel: did you see this? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?set=custom&viewmonth=200902&viewday=&forum_name=gphoto-devel&style=nested&max_rows=75&submit=Change+View [14:37] <_Groo_> what gcc is oneiric? [14:37] <_Groo_> yofel: you used new kipi-plugins right? [14:38] <_Groo_> yofel: kipi-plugins2 2.0.0-2~padoka1 [14:38] _Groo_: no, I used the kipi plugins that are inside the digikam tarball since I couldn't find a kipi-plugins 2 tar [14:38] <_Groo_> yofel: hmm [14:38] <_Groo_> yofel: its in their site too [14:38] <_Groo_> yofel: sec [14:39] gphoto isn't part of kipi-plugins anyway [14:39] and it's not the kipi plugins that fail, it's digikam itself [14:39] kipi-plugins build fine [14:40] _Groo_: no it's not, http://sourceforge.net/projects/kipi/files/ only shows 1.9.0 [14:40] <_Groo_> yofel: i know [14:41] <_Groo_> yofel: the problem is, and you can checlk google, wrong kipi makes strange compilation errors in digikam, sometimes in unrelated dependencies, like gphoto, you can find a bunch of those in google [14:41] <_Groo_> yofel: anyway [14:41] <_Groo_> yofel: its a very strange compile error indeed [14:41] <_Groo_> yofel: what version is gcc in oneiric? [14:42] <_Groo_> yofel: it might be a matter of chaning float* to float or vice-versa [14:42] gcc 4.6 with the restrictive linking setting we had during natty devel [14:42] <_Groo_> yofel: did you bugged the digikam guys? :D [14:42] DSO MAGIC [14:42] _Groo_: not yet [14:43] <_Groo_> yofel: i know this is stupid.. but.. dit you tried to recompile again? :D [14:43] _Groo_: do you know what a DSO error is? [14:43] i heard DSO and Magic in the same line [14:44] You did [14:44] you just broke something somewhere [14:44] and ffs ... kdeinit4 is consuming a entire core again -.- [14:44] Muahahah [14:44] bugged PC is bugged [14:44] shadeslayer: debfs fixed that, wait for the ntrack update [14:44] * shadeslayer spanks kdeinit4 for wasting CPU cycles [14:45] kudos for debfx [14:45] yofel: but ... i don't have ntrack installed [14:45] * Quintasan orders cookies for debfx [14:45] shadeslayer: you do have libntrack0 installed [14:45] or i think i don't [14:45] <_Groo_> yofel: OFC :P [14:45] ah [14:45] <_Groo_> yofel: im stupid but not that stupid [14:45] _Groo_: good, then don't ask me such questions, I've had that error since berlin :P [14:46] WE ALL LOVE DSO LINKING [14:46] * Quintasan hides [14:46] debfx++ [14:46] <_Groo_> yofel: and yet you didnt bugged the digikam guys XD [14:46] oh yes we do [14:46] <_Groo_> yofel: thats why ppl consider me "the most annoying packager ever" [14:46] <_Groo_> yofel: i bug the developers :D [14:47] _Groo_: I tried fixing this myself, but this is lacking any sense by now so I'll probably bug them if nobody here has an idea [14:48] <_Groo_> yofel: fixing myself without upstream with custom patches... dont forget to mention that to them.. they will love ya :P [14:48] <_Groo_> yofel: im kidding btw :D [14:49] <_Groo_> yofel: stupid question, did you tried in ppa? or just locally? [14:49] this is a local build, I have no packaging yet [14:49] <_Groo_> yofel: is gphoto exactly the same version an in ppa oneiric? [14:49] <_Groo_> yofel: i mean your local is pure oneiric from upstream? [14:50] ppa? this is the archive version [14:50] <_Groo_> yofel: i mean for environment building purposes [14:50] it's the version from the archive [15:01] <_Groo_> yofel: can i see your debian/rules? [15:01] _Groo_: I said there is no packaging. This is 'mkdir build, cd build, cmake .., make -j9' [15:01] <_Groo_> yofel: ah [15:01] <_Groo_> yofel: what are you passing to cmake? [15:02] nothing [15:02] <_Groo_> yofel: can you try -DKFACE_EXTERNAL_FINDOPENCV=ON -DQT_QTSCRIPT_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/libQtScript.so [15:03] <_Groo_> opencv is not obligatory [15:03] <_Groo_> but wont hurt [15:03] sure, although /usr/lib/libQtScript.so doesn't exist in oneiric (multiarch) [15:03] <_Groo_> yofel: oO [15:03] <_Groo_> yofel: is there an equivalent? [15:03] _Groo_: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtScript.so [15:03] as I said, multiarch [15:03] <_Groo_> yofel: try that one [15:04] I don't see what qtscript has to do with it though [15:04] <_Groo_> yofel: same.. but stranger bugs needs strange solutions :D [15:04] <_Groo_> yofel: should be fun to try ;) [15:05] CMake Warning: [15:05] Manually-specified variables were not used by the project: [15:05] KFACE_EXTERNAL_FINDOPENCV [15:05] <_Groo_> yofel: impossible im using it here [15:05] _Groo_: what version are you trying to build? [15:07] <_Groo_> yofel: 2.0.0 final [15:07] <_Groo_> we have GHOTO2CONFIG_EXECUTABLE */usr/bin/gphoto2-config GHOTO2PORTCONFIG_EXECUTABLE */usr/bin/gphoto2-port-config [15:07] <_Groo_> and you can always try WITH_Gphoto2=off to see if at leasts it compiles fine [15:08] <_Groo_> one step at a time [15:17] so when does debfx's fix get into the archives? [15:17] <_Groo_> yofel: did it work? [15:18] shadeslayer: ask the archive scripts https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntrack/014+bzr312-0ubuntu2 [15:18] @_@ [15:18] i'll just download the lib [15:19] <_Groo_> to get tomahawk into oneiric i need to separate the beast into several files (lib, dev, etc) and package jreen and the likes? [15:20] yes [15:20] <_Groo_> or i can just go by with one package? :D [15:20] <_Groo_> like in my ppa :D [15:20] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: argh [15:20] nope, that won't work [15:20] _Groo_: I'm working on tomahawk for oneiric [15:20] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: ok this weekend ill do it [15:20] ^^ :P [15:20] <_Groo_> yofel: ah ok.. be my guest [15:20] _Groo_,yofel: Cut it please, do we really have to get tomahawk into ARCHIVE? [15:20] <_Groo_> yofel: i rather prefer a oficial minion [15:20] any work for me btw? [15:20] Quintasan: ask ulmlogger [15:21] _Groo_: well, that did build as expected... [15:21] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: you are the muon developer arent you? [15:21] lolno [15:21] thats JontheEchidna [15:21] <_Groo_> i always confuse everyone in here :P [15:21] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: ah yeah ... like i said :P [15:22] <_Groo_> potatoes tomatoes [15:22] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: PING a BIG ONE [15:22] i'm just the guy who's very lazy and does nothing :P [15:22] _Groo_: I would appreciate it though if you want to do the copyright file for tomahawk if you really want to do something :PP [15:23] <_Groo_> yofel: whats missing? [15:23] _Groo_: uh... your packaging had no copyright file? [15:24] shadeslayer: see topic [15:24] well, thats there [15:24] <_Groo_> yofel: yeah i forgot [15:24] <_Groo_> yofel: they are doing a 0.2.2 this weekend, ill update it then [15:25] _Groo_: I'll try to fix the rest of the packaging then until then [15:25] <_Groo_> yofel: sure... did you decided how you gonna treat the third party libs? [15:26] Is anyone else seeing Amarok constantly asking to install packages? [15:26] not yet [15:27] ulmlogger: What yofel said, do we have to put tomahawk in archive? [15:28] no we do not have to [15:28] we could [15:29] certainly not much of gain right nwo [15:29] providing a PPA seems more important considering the age of the project [15:29] "* Dialogues within dialogues not ideal." [15:29] lul :P [15:30] ulmlogger: That's what I was going to suggest taking "I'm strongly opposed to putting that into archive" stance [15:32] yofel, _Groo_: Well, as you see, ulmlogger thinks we can put it into PPA for now and I was going to suggest the same [15:33] Noticed my netbook was running sluggishly this morning, turns out kded4 was using 100% of the CPU. [15:33] It's 0.2, nowhere near being feature-complete and stable [15:33] mfraz74: Oh this, should be fixed soon [15:33] kudos to debfx [15:33] Quintasan: Thanks, I was going to raise a bug report [15:34] <_Groo_> it already has a oficial ppa, my own [15:34] bug #750554 [15:34] Launchpad bug 750554 in ntrack "0.14: nl modules are not linked with libntrack even if they use symbols from it" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/750554 [15:34] mfraz74: ^ [15:34] <_Groo_> and this weekend im gonna upload the oneiric build [15:34] ulmlogger: Can you convince ScottK to upload kde-runtime? [15:37] if not then we could possibly make shadeslayer do the required changes [15:38] ScottK: Did you look at my merge request? [15:39] Quintasan: didnt you make a multibuild? [15:39] ulmlogger: multibuild of what? [15:39] _Groo_: your ppa != official ppa [15:39] Quintasan: runtime [15:40] one activitymanager with patches and one without [15:40] <_Groo_> ulmlogger: yes it is... look at gettomahawk.com [15:40] yeah [15:40] <_Groo_> ulmlogger: if you mean, to make a new oficial tomahawk ppa, sure... [15:40] whatever [15:40] ulmlogger: No I did not since I'm busy with moving furniture and tons of books around the house ATM [15:40] <_Groo_> ulmlogger: i dont mind :D [15:40] Quintasan: well, I also do not feel comfortable uploading runtime as it is [15:40] I mean, breakage if discovered is easily reverted [15:41] but that of course requires a considerable amount of testing [15:42] shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/111829 [15:42] <_Groo_> ulmlogger: why did you say my ppa is not oficial? do you know anything i dont? oO [15:42] shadeslayer: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime [15:42] shadeslayer: Now you have something to do :P [15:43] no, now i have too much stuff to do :P [15:43] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: lol [15:43] shadeslayer: Well, we are past feature freeze and we need it like NOW [15:43] right [15:44] shadeslayer: And I'm forced to go AFK by superior forces [15:44] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: tell him, show me the money! speed = $$$ [15:44] ffffffuuuuuuu ets [15:45] shadeslayer: If you are looking for examples of double building see kde-workspace (bzr) or quassel [15:46] * Quintasan is back to moving stuff [15:46] k === ximion1 is now known as ximion [16:12] Quintasan: I looked at the workspace one. Seems fine. === ximion is now known as ximion1 [16:22] yofel, ScottK: I spent a few hours last night tracking down why kded4 is running at 100% cpu but not really succeeding at making much sense of it; IIRC it's just trying to poll file descriptors and something answers EAGAIN [16:22] cyphermox: I just uploaded an ntrack fix for debfx that relateds. [16:23] You'd need to ask him if that's a complete solution though. [16:23] ok [16:24] aye, seems reasonable, I guess === ximion1 is now known as ximion === ximion is now known as ximion1 === ximion1 is now known as ximion [16:56] * bambee has nothing to do... :P [16:58] bambee: /topic xD [16:58] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: ping === ximion is now known as ximion1 === ximion2 is now known as ximion [17:12] rbelem: i'd like to discuss https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-filesharing [17:12] when you're free [17:13] shadeslayer, i think that we will postpone in favor of places view work [17:13] places view work? [17:13] bbiab [17:14] shadeslayer, kdelibs/kfile/kfileplacesview.cpp [17:15] shadeslayer, afiestas asked me to focus on this now. he thinks it has a higher priority [17:17] ah [17:17] * shadeslayer looks [17:23] rbelem: hey I'm not your boss or anything... [17:23] do as you please man xD [17:23] but yes, placesview is more important imho [17:23] afiestas, but you are my master [17:24] * rbelem waves at afiestas [17:24] :-D [17:24] agateau didn't want to be my master [17:25] afiestas, now you are :-D [17:26] * rbelem pokes afiestas [17:27] * rbelem pokes afiestas again [17:28] * rbelem pokes afiestas one more time [17:30] * bambee gives some help to rbelem and pokes afiestas again :P [17:31] * shadeslayer gives rbelem the fluffy poking stick [17:31] just keep it away from ulmlogger [17:31] thanks bambee, shadeslayer [17:31] it does funny things around him :P [17:32] you are so kind [17:32] :-D [17:34] ^_^ [17:38] rbelem: xD... [17:39] afiestas, i thought that you didn't want to be my master [17:39] :-D [17:48] rbelem: shut up and keep hacking on placesview [17:48] I want results by the end of the next week [17:48] and btw, you promess me a screenshot, where is it? [17:48] I want it NOW ! [17:48] rbelem: I can be a very very bad master :D [17:50] afiestas, yes sir! [17:50] afiestas, i could not send because my son got a flu yesterday [17:51] afiestas, today i will send it, sir :-D [17:52] lol [17:55] rbelem: that's not an excuse [17:55] sleep less, work harder, take drugs I don't care [17:55] but I want my screenshot today [17:56] bleh, is not even funny say those things [17:56] so I'm going to stop :p [17:56] hahahaha [17:56] :-D === slacker_1l is now known as slacker_nl [19:27] ScottK: would you grant a FFe for converting plasma-widget-message-indicator from cdbs to dh(1)? [19:27] debfx: Yes. [19:27] Just put the debdiff and a build log in the bug and it's no problem. [19:28] DarkwingDuck you around? manage-applications needs a complete re-write for muon i think [19:28] ok, thanks. I hope it's one of the last packages that use cdbs with pkg-kde-tools [19:28] DarkwingDuck i committed a copule of changes but more need to be done [19:45] ulmlogger: what do you think about an updated ninja pbuilder site? [19:52] bulldog98_: ulmlogger probably likes the idea === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [19:52] Quintasan: I’ll test my pbuilder config and then I may edit the site [20:04] ulmlogger: your settings look fine [20:08] is it possible to source an other pbuilderrc within an pbuilderrc? [20:08] Not really [20:09] Just copy paste the contents? [20:09] Quintasan: I would like to ship an pbuilderrc and just have the user to configure some simple things [20:13] bulldog98: Use comments inside the config then [20:13] Quintasan: still it would be cool if the dev wouldn’t have to change the file, if we invent better stuff === bcooksley-away is now known as bcooksley [21:02] ScottK: FFe waiting for your approval: bug #829768 [21:02] Launchpad bug 829768 in plasma-widget-message-indicator (Ubuntu) "FFe: convert from cdbs to dh(1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/829768 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:08] does anyone have any news on that printer applet crash btw.? [21:12] yofel: does it still crash? [21:12] I thought the python-qt4 and/or sip4 updates fixed those [21:12] I got a crash today at login, and someone else just said in +1 that it crashed [21:13] do you have the latest versions of those installed? [21:15] hm, not the latest upload of sip, let's see if it helps [21:18] maybe python-qt4 needs to be rebuilt with the latest sip4 [21:19] scott uploaded a pyqt build a while ago [21:23] crash, let's see if the pyqt rebuild helps once it arrives here [21:23] does this look sane? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace/revision/551 [21:23] I'm open to suggestions for a better check [21:27] hm, should work [21:29] a dpkg-query --is-package-installed switch would be nice ... [21:30] I didn't even know you could use dpkg-query for that, I would've used something crazy like 'dpkg -l gtk2-engines-oxygen | tail -n 1 | grep -q ^ii' [21:30] not even sure if that has a potential to break [21:31] yofel: +1 crash === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [21:31] * sheytan wonders where apachelogger is [21:31] sheytan: you're looking for ulmlogger [21:32] yofel: you where faster [21:32] :) [21:32] yofel yep :D [21:32] thanks [21:32] ulmlogger: ping ping pong [21:32] ah, looking at dpkg-query manpage my command would fail as soon as you hold the package -.- [21:37] oh great, the manpage says that Status is an internal field [21:52] Groo still here? [21:52] guess not [21:52] !seen _Groo_ [21:52] I have no seen command [21:52] ~seen _Groo_ [21:52] _Groo_ was last seen 2 hours, 57 minutes and 42 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Quit: Page closed) [22:07] ulmlogger: Google for safari top sites. i. want recently played in dragon3 that way. what ya think? [22:10] I do not think it makes sense [22:10] ulmlogger i only mean the layout of previews [22:11] you mean the curving? [22:11] yep [22:11] definitely not with live playbacks [22:11] :( [22:11] also I think it rather makes no sense because we have text next to it [22:11] tech. issue? [22:11] which puts off the enitre visual balance [22:12] The last vestiges of KDE3 were removed from the archive today. [22:12] atleast reflection for what weve got now? [22:12] no [22:12] because you can scroll [22:12] y [22:13] plus reflection with blur and transparency of multiple videos is unbarable of hardware right now [22:13] you'd kill a top notch system with that [22:13] damn [22:14] anyway [22:14] i redid the artwork mostly [22:14] please send === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [22:14] cant today. will finish it tomorrw then sent :) [22:15] plus im working on the whole UI still. [22:16] ok. talk to ya tomorrow. bye :) [22:17] Could someone update kde-l10n in main, please ? [22:18] Ubuntu is going Systemd ? [22:18] JontheEchidna: \o/ [22:18] JontheEchidna: Notify the Trinity? [22:18] they probably already provide the whole kde3 stack separately now [22:24] * bulldog98 got contour running on the ExoPc with Kubuntu [22:31] ulmlogger: have you uploaded the settings to archive? [22:35] I'm thinking of skipping Muon Suite's codename down to 'O' and go with Omniscient Ood [22:35] :O [22:36] Quintasan: btw, if a Russian says that Muon "is suitable thing", is that as the best compliment I could expect to get? :P [22:38] JontheEchidna: Did he say that in Russian? [22:38] yeah [22:39] or that's what the Google tells me [22:39] copypasta that [22:39] skreech_: systemd was postponed till after LTS at least, we'll know for UDS-Q [22:39] ulmlogger: still in Ulm? [22:39] * Quintasan wonders why we didn't backport the Activators fix [22:40] what activators fix? [22:40] годная вещь [22:40] http://www.santyago.pl/files/kde-workspace-4.7.0-launcher.patch [22:41] This [22:41] They should have named systemd InitKit [22:41] JontheEchidna: That's not really the best you could possibly get but it's quite near [22:41] :P [22:41] from a Russian anyway [22:42] what does that patch do? [22:42] yofel JontheEchidna http://santyago.pl/media/zoom/publish/2011/08/kde47-bugaktywator.png [22:42] See this [22:42] Quintasan: feel free to do so - it is annyoing if it fixes the issue I'm thinking of [22:43] try selecting that option on your installation [22:43] Quintasan: I'm using that since 4.6 [22:43] It does work? [22:43] in 4.6 sure, in 4.7... [22:43] * Quintasan backports [22:44] a) breaks horribly when switching activities b) if you close an app it doesn't necessarily create a launcher [22:44] I noticed b) [22:45] they are shown on login, and the launcher vanishes when you start an app, but it doesn't come back when you close it [22:49] fun, firefox 7 beta1 in oneiric [22:50] kde bug 262487 [22:50] KDE bug 262487 in widget-taskbar "launcher support in taskbar: launcher does not appear immediately" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262487 [22:51] Quintasan: 75a87c1f1d15b25b42f9a7ba8333bc7ab036e58e should fix b) if I understand the bug right [22:52] Hmm, the patch I got is a little bit longer [22:52] IT possibly unbreaks activities too [22:52] Let me test [22:53] ebfd002f5481c744a9078dd0baf591b3ad1ebf43 and b1ba1ec59b98971ab9bc8078cc5c31684335ce32 seem to be the activities fixes [22:54] e3851ca9dbc417139a9107a6f18fcacd7f0fec0d too [22:54] kde bug 264914 [22:54] KDE bug 264914 in widget-taskbar "Launcher appears when application is running after switching virtual desktops or activity" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264914 [22:57] Quintasan: yep, your patch has all 4 commits [22:57] * Quintasan thanks Korneliusz for putting that together [22:59] yofel: Was it workspace that can break NM in natty? [23:00] yes - rather than backporting take the natty packge and add the patch. Easier [23:00] Is this multiarch breakage? (local build) [23:00] make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libQtTest.so', needed by `installer/muon-installer'. Stop. [23:00] JontheEchidna: something has libQtTest hardcoded I guess [23:00] qzeitgeist was the last one I can think of [23:01] I do link against that [23:01] debfx: did you fix qzeitgeist? [23:01] if yes: how? [23:02] yofel: no, why would it need fixing? [23:03] JontheEchidna: you probably need to run make distclean so cmake picks up the new libQtTest path [23:03] debfx: the qt lib locations in the cmake config file? [23:03] or do they really have to be in there? [23:04] I don't think cmake hardcodes the qt lib path [23:05] debfx: /usr/share/qzeitgeist/cmake/QZeitgeistExport-noconfig.cmake has them hardcoded [23:05] oh right, forgot about that [23:06] so either we figure out how to remove that or qzeitgeist needs a rebuild at least [23:08] yofel: Turns out, I did add fix_launcher_not_appearing.diff but that doesnt work for some reason [23:08] hm... give me a few minutes and I'll try it [23:09] Screw it, I'm removing it and adding that one [23:09] Fixes more things at once === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [23:12] yofel: but they are moving to it? [23:13] Daskreech: systemd? I know there was some talk on it, but there's no intention to move until the next LTS is out, so nothing new for now [23:13] if they're moving [23:14] * Quintasan doesn't care as long as it boots [23:14] Quintasan: GNOME OS? :0 [23:14] * yofel would like for mountall to become unbroken at some point... [23:14] :-) [23:14] WTF [23:14] yofel: KDE-WORKSPACE BUILDS WITH -J12 IN NATTY PBUILDER [23:14] FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU- [23:14] BWAHAHAHA [23:15] dh_auto_build '--buildsystem=kde' --parallel [23:15] cd obj-x86_64-linux-gnu [23:15] make -j12 [23:15] :/ [23:17] How many -j's should I actually use? [23:18] * Quintasan heard it's 1,5x cores [23:18] or 2x cores [23:20] well, not really, usually there's no point in using more than cores+1 jobs [23:20] if you using icecc it only distributes CORES jobs to every system in the grid [23:20] *you're [23:22] * Quintasan has a one-core 64bit box next to him [23:22] I wonder if I should bother [23:23] probably not worth it, unless you're really rebuilding stuff a lot. [23:23] actually, then ccache would save more time [23:23] uhhh [23:24] yofel: http://paste.kde.org/112057 [23:24] WTF [23:26] hm, most of that is toochain stuff, but that added symbol and the taskmanager stuff at the bottom are odd... [23:26] *toolchain [23:26] or that's toolchain too... [23:28] * Quintasan installs and relogs [23:31] IT'S ALIVE [23:32] yofel: The activity switching is working too [23:32] uploading to backports [23:32] \o/ [23:33] 4.7.1 is supposed to fix it [23:33] We will get rejects then :P [23:33] it is, the commits are in the 4.7 branch [23:33] uploaded [23:33] * Quintasan goes to bed [23:33] Good night [23:34] Quintasan: did you put that into natty only? [23:34] For now, yes [23:34] k [23:34] oneyerick need that too? [23:34] well yes, although with 4.7.1 like 2 weeks away I'm not sure if it's worth it [23:34] Same here [23:35] If for some reason it won't fix that we will put it ASAP [23:35] :P [23:35] * Quintasan jots down to test it [23:35] uh, if it doesn't Dirk has broken scripts again ^^ [23:36] ulmlogger: IIRC you were to fix some kcm related patch, let me know when you are done [23:36] * Quintasan goes to bed for sure [23:36] Good night :P [23:36] gn [23:48] gn [23:56] weird e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/112063/