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| lokman | bjr | 01:17 |
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| sven_oostenbrink | How can I see what display driver is currently used by Xorg? | 02:54 |
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| Guest35948 | hola | 03:00 |
| Guest35948 | hola | 03:00 |
| Guest35948 | hey | 03:04 |
| Terbaddo_ | Why does smooth tasks crash, when I close an active launcher ? | 03:08 |
| viper1833 | how do I install and configure screensavers on kubuntu 11.04 | 03:09 |
| Guest35948 | I cannot delete a file on my PC | 03:14 |
| Guest35948 | can anyone help me? | 03:14 |
| Terbaddo_ | @ Guest35948 rm -rf file ? | 03:16 |
| Terbaddo_ | * rm -f file | 03:16 |
| Guest35948 | is a movie file, I downloaded that with Jdownloader, I copy that to another folder | 03:19 |
| Guest35948 | and I want to delete it, but | 03:19 |
| Guest35948 | it says that doesn't not exist | 03:19 |
| Terbaddo_ | Why does smooth tasks crash, when I close an active launcher ? | 03:29 |
| LINKSWORD2 | Hello, all. | 04:59 |
| jschall_ | ok, so i have a high res laptop screen and a low res projector and i'd like to clone the laptop screen to the projector by scaling it down to the resolution of the projector. Failing that, I'm fine with having the laptop screen resolution drop to the projector resolution, but it needs to be easy to switch (my mother needs to be able to do it). | 05:27 |
| kuuhmu | hi i want to help . i use x chat to chat in irc but it can't login any sever it shown "nick name is ready in use 'nick' try other nickname" wen i try it not happen. | 05:56 |
| Unit193 | kuuhmu: Just what it says, the nick is registered by another person | 05:58 |
| jmichaelx | i just installed lirc, in order to configure some buttons on my pc remote. however, installing lirc caused my working remote to quit working. i purged lirc, but remote still does not work... any suggestions? | 06:00 |
| Unit193 | Check battery? | 06:01 |
| jmichaelx | Unit193: it isn't the battery... | 06:01 |
| jmichaelx | this has to do with lirc | 06:01 |
| Unit193 | You may have better luck in #lirc (18 nicks in there) | 06:04 |
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| jmichaelx | ok, i figured it out. installing freaking lirc added several modules (one of which i need) to a blacklist. purging lirc (naturally) did NOT purge all the lirc config files. i commented out the blacklist, modprobed the module, and remote is working again. | 06:17 |
| jmichaelx | sort of ridiculous, but oh well.... | 06:19 |
| krise | hello | 07:24 |
| krise | i need some help | 07:24 |
| krise | i get the error code when tryng to install-uninstall programs | 07:24 |
| krise | You have failed to provide correct authentication. | 07:25 |
| krise | Please check any passwords or account settings. | 07:25 |
| krise | Need help please | 07:25 |
| krise | it happend after i tryed to install wine | 07:25 |
| krise | please | 07:28 |
| krise | someone must be here smarter than me | 07:28 |
| Mamarok | krise: just be patient, as soon as somebody knows you will get an answer | 07:30 |
| krise | thank u | 07:30 |
| well_laid_lawn | what was the question ;P | 07:33 |
| krise | i get the error code when tryng to install-uninstall programs | 07:34 |
| krise | the error says | 07:34 |
| krise | You have failed to provide correct authentication. | 07:34 |
| krise | Please check any passwords or account settings | 07:34 |
| krise | it worked finebefore, i just tryed to install wine and after that it happend | 07:35 |
| krise | wine did not install correctly eader | 07:35 |
| krise | so im tryng to remove it | 07:36 |
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| krise | if anyone thinks i can get help help here say heypaaa | 07:57 |
| rww | krise: you might want to try /join #ubuntu and see if they can help | 07:58 |
| LINKSWORD2 | .... Grr. Amarok still crashes, even after running the debug command through the Konsole terminal. | 08:23 |
| LINKSWORD2 | Ahoy there! Anybody in here that can help? lol | 08:27 |
| dkd | I'm inviting all for Alchemy logical game the beta testing, unlock the elements one by one, and when you will unlock all , add an unique element http://alchemy.h19.ru/ | 08:29 |
| well_laid_lawn | I think there is a #amarok channel | 08:30 |
| well_laid_lawn | LINKSWORD2: ^^ | 08:30 |
| LINKSWORD2 | There is? | 08:30 |
| well_laid_lawn | 122 ppl there | 08:30 |
| LINKSWORD2 | Interesting... | 08:31 |
| LINKSWORD2 | I'm not getting any results... | 08:33 |
| krise | rww hard to get help there, im running kde | 08:37 |
| well_laid_lawn | it's irc LINKSWORD2 you have to be patient... | 08:37 |
| LINKSWORD2 | It's the middle of the night, man. | 08:38 |
| LINKSWORD2 | During the day, I'd probably get a pretty fast response. | 08:39 |
| LINKSWORD2 | But at night, the people that are actually still awake probably aren't on top of the world. | 08:39 |
| krise | ok kubuntu lovers | 08:39 |
| LINKSWORD2 | And the rest of them are idle accounts while their owners are asleep. :P | 08:39 |
| krise | back here to get some help | 08:39 |
| * LINKSWORD2 cracks knuckles.* | 08:40 | |
| LINKSWORD2 | Let's have some fun.... | 08:40 |
| LINKSWORD2 | krise, whatchya got, mate? | 08:40 |
| krise | Here is my problem-when im tryng to install-uninstall programs i get ERROR message-You have failed to provide correct authentication. | 08:40 |
| krise | Please check any passwords or account settings. | 08:40 |
| well_laid_lawn | LINKSWORD2: did the debug command give a clue ? | 08:40 |
| krise | kubuntu 11.04 kde | 08:40 |
| krise | linksword2 can u help me? | 08:41 |
| LINKSWORD2 | krise, attempt to run your install or uninstall through the Konsole terminal. | 08:41 |
| well_laid_lawn | krise: it is a permission issue do you have admin rights? | 08:41 |
| krise | yes i have | 08:41 |
| LINKSWORD2 | Then please copy the return text and put it into pastbin | 08:41 |
| LINKSWORD2 | !pastebin | 08:41 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 08:42 |
| krise | no im tryng to install via kpackage kit | 08:42 |
| well_laid_lawn | you need to check them, like the error said | 08:42 |
| well_laid_lawn | *the admin rights | 08:42 |
| LINKSWORD2 | well_laid_lawn: I'll run the terminal again and get the readout, the same as I told krise to do. | 08:42 |
| LINKSWORD2 | I'll be back in a minute or two with the results. | 08:42 |
| krise | well_laid_lawn in terminal when i runn update command it works | 08:42 |
| well_laid_lawn | I was going to suggest that as a test | 08:43 |
| LINKSWORD2 | :p | 08:43 |
| krise | so masterbrains :) how can we fix this problem | 08:44 |
| well_laid_lawn | krise: you'll need to check how kde sees your rights then | 08:44 |
| krise | well_laid_lawn how can i doo that | 08:44 |
| krise | im newbe, ba patient :) | 08:44 |
| well_laid_lawn | I don't have a kde box here atm - it'll be in the menu under system settings or something | 08:45 |
| well_laid_lawn | normally as users and groups | 08:46 |
| LINKSWORD2 | well_laid_lawn: Seems that the debug sequence hasn't come up with any conclusive results.... | 08:48 |
| LINKSWORD2 | However, even after a couple minutes, it's apparently still running command in groups. | 08:49 |
| well_laid_lawn | try this for a clue - http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=83663&start=10 | 08:50 |
| krise | well_laid_lawn i dont know what to look there ? | 08:51 |
| well_laid_lawn | I googled amarok crash and there was a few results.. | 08:51 |
| krise | behind root username is a lock | 08:51 |
| well_laid_lawn | I'd try another player until it's fixed LINKSWORD2 | 08:51 |
| well_laid_lawn | krise: there is no root user in kubuntu | 08:52 |
| well_laid_lawn | !root | 08:52 |
| ubottu | Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo | 08:52 |
| krise | well_laid_lawn ok i find it, i have admin privileges | 08:54 |
| geekosopher | it seems ubottu is inspired by hollywood movies | 08:55 |
| LINKSWORD2 | lol | 08:55 |
| well_laid_lawn | krise: check in kpackagekit then - try an update | 08:55 |
| krise | well_laid_lawn same problem with same error message | 08:56 |
| krise | when tryng to update in kpackage | 08:57 |
| well_laid_lawn | krise: dunno what to say except stick to the commandline | 08:57 |
| krise | cant even put my password in | 08:57 |
| well_laid_lawn | you can still search in kapckagekit? | 08:57 |
| krise | well_laid_lawn yes i can | 08:58 |
| well_laid_lawn | so it never even asks for a password? | 08:58 |
| krise | nope, soon as i hit aplly it runs something and than gives me error | 08:58 |
| well_laid_lawn | it should ask for a password at startup or sometime | 08:59 |
| krise | yes it did before | 08:59 |
| LINKSWORD2 | Sounds like a problem with the KDE Wallet Manager. | 08:59 |
| LINKSWORD2 | Go into the system control panel and check it. | 09:00 |
| krise | after unsucsessful wine installation its messed up | 09:00 |
| LINKSWORD2 | *Shoots WINE.* | 09:00 |
| * well_laid_lawn had wine once | 09:01 | |
| LINKSWORD2 | lol | 09:01 |
| krise | lol | 09:04 |
| krise | i dont know what to check there | 09:04 |
| krise | everywhere is always allow | 09:05 |
| LINKSWORD2 | I'm signing off. I've gotta hit the pillow. | 09:05 |
| krise | how can u sleep well when your brother needs help | 09:07 |
| krise | anybody wants google + invite ? | 09:09 |
| krise | shit | 09:10 |
| krise | is there any brave ones who like to help me out? | 09:32 |
| Quintasan | krise: Just ask your question, if someone knows they might help | 09:35 |
| krise | ok | 09:35 |
| krise | running kubuntu 11.04 | 09:36 |
| krise | when im tryng to install-uninstall programs via kpackage it gives me a error | 09:37 |
| krise | You have failed to provide correct authentication. | 09:37 |
| krise | Please check any passwords or account settings. | 09:37 |
| krise | it comes up right before i can put in my password | 09:37 |
| krise | update command works in terminal | 09:38 |
| well_laid_lawn | does kpackagekit have a group you need to be in or something like that? | 09:38 |
| krise | no i dont think so | 09:39 |
| Quintasan | Urgh, KPackageKit | 09:41 |
| Quintasan | krise: Did you try Muon? | 09:41 |
| bigbrovar | well_laid_lawn: packagekit uses policykit for authentication, by default every user who is in the admin group is alliowed to run a process that relies on policykit. if you are using the user created while installing the laptop. then that user is automatically added as a member of the admin group. if that user was manually created you need to specifically add the user to the admin group | 09:41 |
| krise | Quintasan whats that | 09:41 |
| Quintasan | krise: The default package manager in Oneiric | 09:41 |
| Quintasan | sudo apt-get install muon | 09:42 |
| krise | bigbrovar this problem started this morning, before i had no problems | 09:42 |
| bigbrovar | Quintasan: kpackagekit actually whats well for me no problems, if he is having authentication problems then its mostly a policykit issue which might also affect muon since that too is based on policykit | 09:42 |
| Quintasan | Well, technically that's right | 09:42 |
| Quintasan | But sometimes KPackageKit expresses wildly unpreditctable behavior | 09:43 |
| krise | ill try muon | 09:45 |
| well_laid_lawn | bigbrovar: it was krise with the permission problem :) | 09:46 |
| bigbrovar | is anyone running kde/pim 4.7 on kubuntu 11.04? I find that sometimes akonadi just refuses to sync my mails. like the imap idle stops working and I have to manually initiate the fetch main command. this usually happens when I have a disconnection. The only way to get it back to syncing would be to restart akonadi (or in some cases restart) anyone experience this before | 09:46 |
| krise | yes that was me | 09:46 |
| bigbrovar | well_laid_lawn: oppss sorry :p | 09:46 |
| well_laid_lawn | np :) | 09:46 |
| krise | bigbrovar can u give me advice? | 09:47 |
| bigbrovar | krise: try muon and see if that works, if it doesn't then its most likely a policykit issue. if it does then its a packagekit problem | 09:48 |
| krise | is muon ok for kde? | 09:48 |
| osinclair | krise: there is a ppa for muon, search for that | 09:49 |
| osinclair | I am on version 1.2 or something and it is good, install also muon-installer for a nice gui | 09:50 |
| bigbrovar | krise: yep and it would be the default package manager for Kubuntu 11.10 | 09:50 |
| krise | same problem with muon | 09:50 |
| krise | can not install anyting | 09:51 |
| bigbrovar | krise: then its a policykit issue (not that I know how to solve it) what is the error again? can u post a screenshot? | 09:51 |
| krise | i installed muon via terminal | 09:51 |
| krise | one sec | 09:51 |
| krise | This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided | 09:52 |
| bigbrovar | krise: have u tried rebooting? | 09:53 |
| krise | dont remember | 09:53 |
| krise | ill be back | 09:53 |
| krise | sorry guys- restart fixed everything | 09:58 |
| krise | thanks for muon do | 09:58 |
| krise | but | 09:59 |
| krise | how can i get my laptop mousepad right click work? | 10:00 |
| krise | HP Probook 4520 | 10:00 |
| bigbrovar | krise: yep problem some problems with policykit process failing. its funny how many problems can be solved by restart. | 10:00 |
| krise | yep | 10:00 |
| bigbrovar | krise: u are in luck I use a probook 4420 and solved the clickpad issue with this post http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2011/05/24/better-clickpad-support-for-ubuntu-11-04/ | 10:01 |
| bigbrovar | following that would allow you to right click and also get multitouch working. although click to drag support is still missing. I am suppose to update the post on how to get the LED working for enabling and disabling the clickpad | 10:02 |
| krise | goood | 10:03 |
| krise | ill try that | 10:03 |
| * bigbrovar I actually came here to seek consel on why sometimes kmail2 push email stops working in kdepim 4.7 .. doesn't happen all the time but I have observed that when I experience a break in connection. push email stops working and I would have to manually check my emails does anyone experience this? | 10:05 | |
| bigbrovar | I actually came here to seek consel on why sometimes kmail2 push email stops working in kdepim 4.7 .. doesn't happen all the time but I have observed that when I experience a break in connection. push email stops working and I would have to manually check my emails does anyone experience this? | 10:05 |
| szal | !repeat | bigbrovar | 10:06 |
| ubottu | bigbrovar: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait. | 10:06 |
| krise | sh: dpkg-source: not found | 10:06 |
| krise | Unpack command 'dpkg-source -x xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1.3.99+git20110116.0e27ce3a-0ubuntu12.1.dsc' failed. | 10:06 |
| krise | Check if the 'dpkg-dev' package is installed. | 10:06 |
| krise | E: Child process failed | 10:06 |
| krise | i think im in trouble | 10:07 |
| szal | krise: is it installed? | 10:07 |
| krise | what? | 10:07 |
| bigbrovar | krise: I have never had that issue before. what version of Kubuntu are u running? | 10:07 |
| krise | 11.04 | 10:08 |
| szal | krise: read your output again.. | 10:08 |
| krise | with latest update | 10:08 |
| krise | im not werry good in english, i might not understand everything | 10:08 |
| bigbrovar | krise: I have not had the error before nor has anyone who posted feedbacks to the post. you have to read the instructions very carefully and follow it to the T, make sure you cross check the commands | 10:08 |
| krise | can i let u in to my comp so u can doo it? | 10:09 |
| krise | ill trust u | 10:09 |
| szal | krise: if you can chat here you can also read what messages you get -> [12:06:38] <krise> Check if the 'dpkg-dev' package is installed. | 10:10 |
| bigbrovar | krise: err nope, am sure you can do this. just follow the instruction | 10:10 |
| krise | ok, will sow long it takes | 10:10 |
| krise | see | 10:11 |
| bigbrovar | krise: first of try running this sudo apt-get update | 10:11 |
| osinclair | bigrovar: you say click-drag does not work, for me it does "oob", a very light/fast click, hold down and drag | 10:11 |
| osinclair | bigrovar: sort of difficult to explain but works.. | 10:12 |
| krise | bigbrovar update done | 10:12 |
| osinclair | make that a "double-tap" and hold down on the second | 10:12 |
| bigbrovar | osinclair: yeah that one works, but not the holding the left click button and draging :) | 10:13 |
| bigbrovar | krise: ok lets do this together | 10:13 |
| krise | ok | 10:13 |
| osinclair | bigrovar: yes I know.. hate the clickpad and long for good old separate buttons mysefl | 10:14 |
| krise | im ready | 10:14 |
| bigbrovar | have u ran sudo apt-get update and has the process completed? | 10:14 |
| krise | yes | 10:14 |
| osinclair | that does not go ape if you put two fingers down at the same time... | 10:14 |
| bigbrovar | osinclair: same here, it was synatpic lame attempt at copying the apple trackpad | 10:14 |
| bigbrovar | krise: ok next u need to create a directory in ur desktop named build you can do that with this command | 10:15 |
| osinclair | let me not interrupt, help krise through this | 10:15 |
| bigbrovar | mkdir $HOME/Desktop/build | 10:15 |
| krise | that means folder named build ? | 10:16 |
| bigbrovar | yep | 10:16 |
| krise | done | 10:16 |
| bigbrovar | just copy and past the command :) | 10:16 |
| krise | done | 10:17 |
| bigbrovar | now u would need to move into that folder u just created with this command | 10:17 |
| bigbrovar | cd $HOME/Desktop/build | 10:17 |
| krise | done | 10:18 |
| bigbrovar | next you need to download the package that would be compiled for the right click to work do that with this command | 10:18 |
| bigbrovar | wget http://david.hardeman.nu/synaptics-suse-patches.tar.bz2 | 10:19 |
| krise | done | 10:19 |
| krise | now i doo this next command yes | 10:20 |
| krise | apt-get source xserver-xorg-input-synaptics | 10:20 |
| krise | say yes, i hit enter | 10:20 |
| bigbrovar | krise: now in other to download the source for the synatic driver and u do that with this | 10:21 |
| bigbrovar | apt-get source xserver-xorg-input-synaptics | 10:21 |
| krise | done | 10:21 |
| bigbrovar | ok the next series of command should add the patch we downloaded earler to the synaptic package and then we can build it just follow the command one after the other | 10:23 |
| bigbrovar | cd xserver-xorg-input-synaptics* | 10:23 |
| krise | ok | 10:23 |
| bigbrovar | done? | 10:23 |
| krise | nope | 10:24 |
| krise | rise@krise-HP-ProBook-4520s:~/Desktop/build$ cd xserver-xorg-input-synaptics* | 10:24 |
| krise | bash: cd: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1.3.99+git20110116.0e27ce3a-0ubuntu12.1.diff.gz: Not a directory | 10:24 |
| krise | is that ok? | 10:24 |
| bigbrovar | nope that is not ok | 10:24 |
| bigbrovar | what is the output of this command pwd | 10:24 |
| bigbrovar | pwd | 10:24 |
| bigbrovar | and also this one ls | 10:24 |
| bigbrovar | ls | 10:25 |
| krise | dont understand | 10:25 |
| bigbrovar | post me the output of this command what is displayed when u run this command | 10:25 |
| bigbrovar | pwd | 10:25 |
| krise | i just entered firs command | 10:25 |
| krise | cd xserver-xorg-input-synaptics* | 10:26 |
| krise | and than it says | 10:26 |
| krise | bash: cd: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1.3.99+git20110116.0e27ce3a-0ubuntu12.1.diff.gz: Not a directory | 10:26 |
| krise | should i continue with other commands? | 10:27 |
| krise | sd debian | 10:27 |
| krise | cd | 10:27 |
| bigbrovar | naa | 10:27 |
| bigbrovar | do this cd xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-1.3.99+git20110116.0e27ce3a | 10:27 |
| bigbrovar | cd xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-1.3.99+git20110116.0e27ce3a | 10:28 |
| bigbrovar | and after do this | 10:28 |
| bigbrovar | pwd | 10:28 |
| bigbrovar | and post me the output of the last command (i.e the pwd command) | 10:28 |
| krise | bash: cd: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-1.3.99+git20110116.0e27ce3a: No such file or directory | 10:28 |
| bigbrovar | what is the output of the pwd command | 10:29 |
| bigbrovar | run pwd | 10:29 |
| bigbrovar | and post me the output of that | 10:29 |
| krise | krise@krise-HP-ProBook-4520s:~/Desktop/build$ cd xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-1.3.99+git20110116.0e27ce3a | 10:29 |
| krise | bash: cd: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-1.3.99+git20110116.0e27ce3a: No such file or directory | 10:29 |
| krise | krise@krise-HP-ProBook-4520s:~/Desktop/build$ pwd | 10:29 |
| krise | /home/krise/Desktop/build | 10:29 |
| krise | krise@krise-HP-ProBook-4520s:~/Desktop/build$ | 10:29 |
| FloodBotK1 | krise: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. | 10:29 |
| bigbrovar | ok | 10:29 |
| krise | ok | 10:29 |
| bigbrovar | krise: do u know how to use pastebin? | 10:29 |
| krise | yes | 10:29 |
| bigbrovar | ok next output should be posted there ok? | 10:30 |
| krise | ok | 10:30 |
| bigbrovar | anyway can u pastebin the output of this command ls | 10:30 |
| bigbrovar | ls | 10:30 |
| bigbrovar | pastebin the output of that | 10:30 |
| krise | http://paste.ubuntu.com/669954/ | 10:31 |
| bigbrovar | ok do this tar xzvf xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1.3.99+git20110116.0e27ce3a.orig.tar.gz | 10:32 |
| bigbrovar | tar xzvf xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1.3.99+git20110116.0e27ce3a.orig.tar.gz | 10:32 |
| krise | done | 10:32 |
| bigbrovar | tell me what happens when u do that | 10:32 |
| bigbrovar | then run this cd xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-1.3.99+git20110116.0e27ce3a | 10:33 |
| krise | http://paste.ubuntu.com/669957/ | 10:33 |
| bigbrovar | good run this | 10:33 |
| bigbrovar | cd xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-1.3.99+git20110116.0e27ce3a | 10:33 |
| bigbrovar | done? | 10:34 |
| bigbrovar | krise: done? | 10:34 |
| krise | http://paste.ubuntu.com/669961/ | 10:34 |
| krise | done | 10:35 |
| bigbrovar | krise: can u run an ls again and pastebin the output? | 10:35 |
| krise | ok, hold on | 10:36 |
| krise | http://paste.ubuntu.com/669966/ | 10:36 |
| krise | same thing | 10:36 |
| bigbrovar | krise: weird. ok lets do this again take it from the start ok? | 10:40 |
| krise | ok | 10:40 |
| krise | nice and easy | 10:40 |
| bigbrovar | I need u to delete everything inside the build folder | 10:40 |
| bigbrovar | let me know when u have done that | 10:41 |
| krise | done | 10:42 |
| bigbrovar | just to be sure post me an ls | 10:43 |
| bigbrovar | pastebin the output of ls | 10:43 |
| bigbrovar | ls | 10:43 |
| krise | it give me nothing | 10:44 |
| bigbrovar | ok | 10:44 |
| bigbrovar | now run this wget http://david.hardeman.nu/synaptics-suse-patches.tar.bz2 | 10:45 |
| bigbrovar | after every command I give u run an ls command and pastebin the output of that ls command | 10:45 |
| bigbrovar | that way I follow the progress of which command carefully | 10:45 |
| krise | ok | 10:45 |
| osinclair | bigrovar: what changes after applying the patch(es) compared to "normal" 11.04 | 10:46 |
| krise | http://paste.ubuntu.com/669974/ | 10:46 |
| bigbrovar | execellent | 10:47 |
| bigbrovar | next apt-get source xserver-xorg-input-synaptics | 10:47 |
| krise | http://paste.ubuntu.com/669975/ | 10:49 |
| krise | there was some problem | 10:49 |
| bigbrovar | what was the problem | 10:49 |
| krise | after command http://paste.ubuntu.com/669978/ | 10:50 |
| bigbrovar | sudo apt-get install dpkg-dev | 10:51 |
| bigbrovar | run that | 10:51 |
| krise | http://paste.ubuntu.com/669979/ | 10:52 |
| bigbrovar | sudo apt-get install dpkg-dev | 10:52 |
| bigbrovar | u ran http://paste.ubuntu.com/669978/sudo | 10:53 |
| krise | installing | 10:53 |
| bigbrovar | ok | 10:53 |
| krise | i need to restart to complete update | 10:54 |
| bigbrovar | it said that? | 10:54 |
| krise | yes | 10:54 |
| bigbrovar | am not sure that is necessary | 10:54 |
| krise | ok | 10:54 |
| krise | lets try to continue | 10:54 |
| bigbrovar | just delete the files in the build folder again and lets start again | 10:55 |
| bigbrovar | I dont want to leave room for errors :) | 10:55 |
| krise | done | 10:55 |
| krise | me eader | 10:55 |
| bigbrovar | wget http://david.hardeman.nu/synaptics-suse-patches.tar.bz2 | 10:55 |
| krise | hope u can make it work | 10:55 |
| krise | dont know how to thank u than | 10:56 |
| bigbrovar | let me know when that works | 10:56 |
| krise | done | 10:56 |
| bigbrovar | apt-get source xserver-xorg-input-synaptics | 10:56 |
| bigbrovar | let me know if there is any error this time or if it ran fine | 10:57 |
| krise | looks ok | 10:57 |
| krise | want paste? | 10:57 |
| bigbrovar | sure | 10:58 |
| krise | http://paste.ubuntu.com/669990/ | 10:58 |
| bigbrovar | ok | 10:59 |
| bigbrovar | lets hope the worst is behind us | 10:59 |
| krise | i hope so | 10:59 |
| bigbrovar | cd xserver-xorg-input-synaptics* | 11:00 |
| bigbrovar | run that | 11:00 |
| krise | http://paste.ubuntu.com/669992/ | 11:00 |
| bigbrovar | fantastic | 11:00 |
| bigbrovar | now | 11:01 |
| bigbrovar | cd debian | 11:01 |
| bigbrovar | after that cd patches | 11:01 |
| bigbrovar | when done pastbin the output of | 11:01 |
| bigbrovar | pwd | 11:01 |
| bigbrovar | so I know the 2 commands ran well ' | 11:02 |
| krise | http://paste.ubuntu.com/669993/ | 11:02 |
| krise | damn im starting to belive i can get it work | 11:02 |
| bigbrovar | great | 11:02 |
| bigbrovar | now run this | 11:02 |
| bigbrovar | just copy and paste the command | 11:02 |
| bigbrovar | tar xfvj ../../../synaptics-suse-patches.tar.bz2 | 11:03 |
| krise | done | 11:03 |
| krise | http://paste.ubuntu.com/669998/ | 11:04 |
| bigbrovar | ls -1 2*.patch >> series | 11:05 |
| bigbrovar | run that | 11:05 |
| krise | done | 11:05 |
| bigbrovar | now do this | 11:05 |
| bigbrovar | cd ../.. | 11:05 |
| krise | done | 11:06 |
| bigbrovar | now run this | 11:07 |
| bigbrovar | sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg-input-synaptics | 11:07 |
| krise | installing, why cant this stuff work out of box? | 11:08 |
| krise | done | 11:08 |
| bigbrovar | krise: well the clickpad driver was not released for linux so the linux people have to reverse engineer the process | 11:09 |
| bigbrovar | anyway back to biz | 11:09 |
| krise | ok | 11:09 |
| bigbrovar | dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot | 11:10 |
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| krise | done | 11:10 |
| bigbrovar | sudo dpkg -i ../xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1*.deb | 11:11 |
| bigbrovar | sudo dpkg -i ../xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-dev* | 11:11 |
| krise | done | 11:11 |
| bigbrovar | guess u are good to go | 11:12 |
| bigbrovar | quite tip | 11:12 |
| bigbrovar | make sure u dont upgrade the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package | 11:13 |
| bigbrovar | pacakgekit would ask u to upgrade that package just ignore it | 11:13 |
| bigbrovar | upgrading means u have to go through the same process all over again | 11:13 |
| krise | ok i have to make a note and keep my eye on it | 11:14 |
| bigbrovar | now say a lil prayer and reboot | 11:14 |
| krise | huhh | 11:14 |
| bigbrovar | yeah and if u have aptitude u can always do an aptitude hold xserver-xorg-input-synaptic | 11:14 |
| krise | bigbrovar i dont know how to thank u | 11:17 |
| krise | u spent a lot of time | 11:17 |
| krise | it works | 11:18 |
| krise | its time to go to beach now | 11:18 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas | 11:18 |
| bigbrovar | krise: u welcome . glad it worked | 11:18 |
| benonsoftware | BluesKaj: Hello | 11:19 |
| bigbrovar | krise: I knew u could do it :) | 11:19 |
| BluesKaj | hi benonsoftware, bigbrovar | 11:19 |
| krise | i really prichiate | 11:19 |
| krise | nex time i need help how to install tar.gz files | 11:20 |
| krise | but not today | 11:20 |
| krise | time to grab a beer and start weekend | 11:20 |
| krise | thanks again | 11:21 |
| krise | c ya | 11:21 |
| xiaobao | are there any softwares which could be used in Kubuntu with vedio chat function | 12:05 |
| === s is now known as Guest11270 | ||
| ionite | On some occasions I get stuck @ my login in screen till I click or hit enter. Only then my desktop will show up. Why is it so/ | 13:25 |
| ionite | why do my firefox becomes so laggy when i'm typing web addresses? there's always like a 2 second delay. how can i solve this? | 13:33 |
| szal | ionite: observation here: don't start programs by click until the desktop has fully loaded; starting programs earlier may result in increased CPU usage | 13:34 |
| ionite | szal: didnt start any programs becz i'm stuck @ the splash screen. now my bigger problem is strange lag & weird character appearing even w/o typing. | 13:36 |
| ionite | szal: do u know why is firefox so laggy? how can i increase my diskcache? | 13:44 |
| BluesKaj | ionite, check your system monitor.maybe some process is hogging resources | 13:44 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: how do i check and know which is hogging and which isn ot? | 13:45 |
| BluesKaj | ionite, , kmenu>apps>system>system monitor | 13:46 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: i know. but it doesn't shows anything hogging? but even text typing in my firefox suffers 2 seconds delay | 13:46 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: most of the time is 1 second delays but some occasions is 2 seconds delay | 13:47 |
| BluesKaj | ionite, try another browser to see if it lags | 13:48 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: what's ur recommendations? | 13:50 |
| BluesKaj | chromium-browser | 13:50 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: is it better than Firefox? | 13:51 |
| avihay | I've noticed that lag too, I think it's something to do with the newer firefox, wasn't that bad with FF 3.6. probably can't be fixed without programming or disableing some of the (awsome?)bar's features | 13:51 |
| BluesKaj | that's a matter of taste and opinion , but chromium is lighter but less configurable in some ways | 13:52 |
| avihay | ionite: depends on what you consider better | 13:52 |
| ionite | avihay: u face the same prob too? i used Firefox because i can access internet banking. | 13:52 |
| avihay | I don't agree with lighter, I'll give it faster | 13:53 |
| ionite | avihay: better meaning no lag and smooth web browsing. | 13:53 |
| ionite | avihay: i tried rekonq and i don't quite like it though it's quite fast. | 13:53 |
| ionite | avihay: now that i have firefox installed how do i install chrome? and how do i remove firefox? | 13:53 |
| * BluesKaj accesses internet banking with chromium , but this is Canada ...banks here are slighty more software progressive | 13:53 | |
| avihay | well, chrome is faster, and more secure then Firefox without the script-block plug-in, but it's a memory hog | 13:53 |
| avihay | and I recomend you use chromioum instead of chrome, both of you | 13:54 |
| ionite | avihay: chrome is a memory hog? but what's causing the lag in firefox? what's the difference? chrome and chromium? | 13:54 |
| avihay | heck, everyone should probably prefer chromium over chrome | 13:54 |
| BluesKaj | avihay, read my post above | 13:54 |
| * szal hasn't noticed any lag w/ FFox yet (6 running here) | 13:55 | |
| avihay | the difference between chrome and chromioum is in how much data is being sent to "big brother", and while "that's a matter of taste and opinion", I think it applies to most | 13:56 |
| avihay | szal: try using the bar to look for somth in your history, type three letters, and see if Firefox sorta hangs when you browse the result list | 13:57 |
| ionite | avihay: BluesKaj szal my problem is that the web address field doesnt display the text as fast as i type. there's a 1 second delay and when i type fast it's a lot of text delay. | 13:57 |
| avihay | that too | 13:59 |
| szal | avihay: no, it doesn't | 14:00 |
| avihay | it's tolerate-able for me since I rarely type in addresses, though the amount of tabs I have open is kinda absurd | 14:00 |
| BluesKaj | yes ionite we know , have you tried chromium yet | 14:00 |
| avihay | well, it could be a plugin that's slowing it down, I guess | 14:00 |
| BluesKaj | FF plugins slow you down ? how can that be ? :) | 14:01 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: installing now. | 14:02 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: i've got no FF plugins @ all. | 14:02 |
| ionite | should i upgrade to KDE 4.7? what would happen to software compatibility? | 14:03 |
| BluesKaj | avihay, I meant chromium-browser | 14:03 |
| ionite | if i were to upgrade to 4.7 would my current settings and files be disturbed? WINE HQ? any programs would suffer? | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | ionite, no idea about wine ...maybe others do | 14:05 |
| avihay | well, my kmixer settings got crazy after the upgrade, but the performance gain from upgrading was well worth it. | 14:06 |
| BluesKaj | just fix them in alsamixer , kmix is just a gui for it | 14:06 |
| avihay | well, actually, except from the master channel changing, the other issue was the vol up/down shortcut not working and that was cause some other program hijacked them and it took me a while to figure it out | 14:08 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: i'm using chrome now. it's lightnining fast | 14:11 |
| ionite | avihay: i'm using Chrome now. the difference is significant from FF. i guess it really depends on preference and systems? | 14:14 |
| BluesKaj | avihay, pulseaudio is default now , but I rid my setup of it as soon as i can ...IMO it's useless for integrated soundcards besides being buggy | 14:14 |
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| avihay | I actually wanted to use my phone/computer as a blutooth headset for my computer/phone, didn't have much luck though, and yes, so far, pulseaudio has been more of a curse then a blessing. I wanted per-ap volume control... but I find myself not really using it | 14:23 |
| aleksandr | р | 14:25 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: i just suffered a shortcircuit on my netbook due to power failure. now my netbook can't book!! | 14:26 |
| aleksandr | что сдесь | 14:26 |
| Pici | !ru | 14:26 |
| ubottu | Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. | 14:26 |
| BluesKaj | shortcircuit? how do you know ? | 14:27 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: i saw the entire net book power adapter unplug my accident before my eyes. | 14:27 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: *accident | 14:27 |
| avihay | ionite: chrome is fast, I agree. as I believe in browser separation as a security measure, I use it too, but it has alot of shortcomings that prevents me from using it for serious browsing | 14:28 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: now it's stuck a black screen. with only this cursor blinking _ | 14:29 |
| BluesKaj | that's not real serious , ionite | 14:29 |
| avihay | erm, I mean using chromioum* | 14:29 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: and i can't do anything about it. | 14:29 |
| BluesKaj | avihay like ? | 14:29 |
| ionite | avihay: what do u mean serious browsing? now i've got a bigger problem. my ubuntu can't boot @ DOS mode | 14:29 |
| === hacked is now known as vinces | ||
| ionite | BluesKaj: what should i do? | 14:31 |
| ionite | i'm stuck @ a black screen with only a blinking cursor _ | 14:31 |
| BluesKaj | avihay, theonly thing bothersome about chromium is it's poor integration with kde/gtk fonts ...I use a large monitor and the fonts on the toolbars and bookmarks bar are un configurable | 14:31 |
| avihay | memory management, multiple tab management, and tab restore, and while there might be plugins to fix the latter two, I believe the first is more then enough not to pick it, though the Miku Hatsune skin is to die for!!! kyaaa, so cute! | 14:32 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: any idea how i can restore back my KDE from a power failer? | 14:33 |
| ionite | *failure | 14:33 |
| BluesKaj | leave the power off for at least 30 secs , the try to boot | 14:34 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: i'm trying now. what should i do if its still stuck at the blinking cursor _ black screen? | 14:36 |
| avihay | ionite: can you get to one of the ttys? | 14:39 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: i'm still stuck at the blinking cursor _ after 30 seconds | 14:40 |
| ionite | avihay: what do u mean TTYS? | 14:40 |
| ionite | Kubuntu can | 14:41 |
| avihay | I mean text interface thingy virtual text terminal, whatchamacallit | 14:41 |
| ionite | avihay: nothing i'm only at the black screen with this single _ | 14:41 |
| ionite | avihay: nothing else after a power failure. frustrating. | 14:42 |
| Terbaddo_ | Can anyone help me about Smooth Tasks ? | 14:42 |
| BluesKaj | ionite, ok reboot , hold down the shift key right after the bios screen appears , to see if you can get to the grub menu . | 14:42 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: I tried that too but it can't work. | 14:43 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: alright i realized now what's wrong. i got my mp3 player USB plugged in and my primary boot was by USB. lolx | 14:43 |
| BluesKaj | does your laptop have a cdrom drive ? | 14:44 |
| ionite | BluesKaj: scared the heart out of me. | 14:44 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 14:44 |
| avihay | anyone knows what TTY stands for? | 14:45 |
| Terbaddo_ | teletypewriter | 14:45 |
| avihay | Terbaddo_: thanks | 14:46 |
| avihay | though I feel a bit sorry that I asked | 14:46 |
| ionite | avihay: in my country TTYL means Talk To You Later in text messaging shortforms. | 14:46 |
| ionite | avihay: thanks for ur help. i'm sticking to chrome for now. the only problem with Open source is that u gotta trial and error to find out what's the best for u. | 14:47 |
| avihay | ionite: I think it's more of a language/social thing then country related | 14:47 |
| ionite | avihay: lolx. gtg . thanks for all ur help. gd night. time to sleep. | 14:48 |
| avihay | I didn't do anything :-< night | 14:48 |
| === ZandreBran is now known as ZandreBran_afk | ||
| noaXess | he | 16:05 |
| noaXess | upgraded a machine from 10.04, 10.10 to 11.04.. | 16:06 |
| noaXess | all is fine.. :) but.. sound level.. on each reboot it is back to 12%.. instead of that level i set it up while working on machine.. | 16:06 |
| noaXess | any hint?.. | 16:06 |
| alcom | who can help me ? | 16:10 |
| alcom | i have problem | 16:10 |
| alcom | with my kubuntu | 16:10 |
| alcom | my system can not detect usb flashdisk | 16:10 |
| alcom | how to repair it ? | 16:11 |
| fayaz | tried with another os? | 16:11 |
| alcom | at another os can detected | 16:12 |
| alcom | i use vandisk | 16:12 |
| alcom | can not detected | 16:12 |
| alcom | but i use toshiba flash disk can detected | 16:13 |
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| fayaz | alcom: so disk a is getting detected and disk b isn't? | 16:15 |
| alcom | when i connect to toshiba flashdisk my system can detected, but when i use vandisk my usb cannot detected, but when vandisk to connect to windows xp it is detected | 16:18 |
| alcom | what the name of visual c++ program for ubuntu ? | 16:24 |
| alcom | i need it | 16:24 |
| BluesKaj | alcom, vdk2 | 16:26 |
| noaXess | hey BluesKaj | 16:28 |
| BluesKaj | hi noaXess | 16:28 |
| noaXess | wasup?.. hot? | 16:28 |
| BluesKaj | not much atm | 16:29 |
| BluesKaj | !pm | alcom | 16:31 |
| ubottu | alcom: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. | 16:31 |
| alcom | ok thanks for your suggestion | 16:33 |
| noaXess | any idea.. about above problem? | 16:34 |
| noaXess | all is fine.. :) but.. sound level.. on each reboot it is back to 12%.. instead of that level i set it up while working on machine.. | 16:34 |
| noaXess | and other question.. have a system with two users.. one user can play audio cd's in amarok the other not.. the other don't see the audio cd as a local colleciton.. | 16:36 |
| noaXess | i added the other user to adm and admin groupp.. no change | 16:36 |
| mfraz74 | do they need to be added to the audio group? | 16:37 |
| noaXess | mfraz74: both are in the audio and cdrom group | 16:38 |
| alcom | i have installed vdk but it is not show yet on program menu, where is it ? | 16:42 |
| duckx0r | How can I get kate sessions to restore correctly? I have "load last used session" selected and every time it starts up a new session. This behavior is the same on two separate computers. | 16:44 |
| alcom | how to start vdk2 ? | 16:46 |
| BluesKaj | alcom, alt+f2 , type vdk2 | 17:07 |
| pakistanish | Merhaba | 17:20 |
| pakistanish | Hello | 17:20 |
| pakistanish | Bonjour | 17:20 |
| pakistanish | Hola | 17:20 |
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| LINKSWORD2 | Hey everybody. If I have Muon installed, can I remove KPackageKit, or set Muon up as the system's default package manager? | 17:58 |
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| FloodBotK1 | !netsplit | 18:38 |
| ubottu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 18:38 |
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| LINKSWORD2 | Some of you might know about my pre-existing problem with Amarok. Should I wait for an updated version? | 19:01 |
| LINKSWORD2 | Or perhaps reinstall my system and see if updating from there yields a stable result? | 19:01 |
| DarthFrog | Try booting from the LiveCD and see if it works there? If not, re-installing won't do anything. | 19:04 |
| LINKSWORD2 | DarthFrog: I don't have a CD burner. My LiveCD is from version 10.04. | 19:07 |
| James147 | LINKSWORD2: you can create a liveusb instead | 19:08 |
| rekcuFniarB | find ~/.kde -iname "*amarok*" -exec rm -rf {} \; | 19:08 |
| James147 | LINKSWORD2: also, testing a new user account might also help | 19:08 |
| LINKSWORD2 | rekcuFniarB: How would I find that? | 19:09 |
| James147 | rekcuFniarB: ^^ rm is not a good idea, mving the configs so that they can be restored is bettter | 19:09 |
| LINKSWORD2 | Wow. | 19:09 |
| James147 | LINKSWORD2: best thing to do is create a new user and see if it works for them, if it does then its a config problem in you home directory and renaming/deleting the right configs should solve it | 19:10 |
| LINKSWORD2 | OK, normally I'm a complete nerd and I'd be in step with you guys on that. | 19:10 |
| LINKSWORD2 | But I think this time, you lost me. | 19:10 |
| rekcuFniarB | LINKSWORD2: it's a command line | 19:10 |
| LINKSWORD2 | Also, James147 the system I'm running is old enough that I don't think it can boot to USB. | 19:11 |
| James147 | LINKSWORD2: how old? computer have been able to boot from usb for a long time :) | 19:11 |
| LINKSWORD2 | A Compaq from the stone age. It came out with WME on it. | 19:12 |
| James147 | (either way, the new user will be easier and rule out the user configs) | 19:12 |
| sergei | привет | 19:34 |
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| === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 | ||
| LINKSWORD2 | Hmm.... It looks like it's a config problem. | 19:52 |
| LINKSWORD2 | It's hard to tell for sure, however, because I can't access the music from the other account. | 19:53 |
| LINKSWORD2 | ... I don't mean to sound impatient, but I would figure I'd get some kind of response.... | 20:09 |
| OerHeks | 'sounds' normal, music from an other account that is not accessible | 20:10 |
| OerHeks | i see no question in you comments, LINKSWORD2 | 20:11 |
| LINKSWORD2 | OK, perhaps I should elaborate. | 20:12 |
| LINKSWORD2 | I'm having problems with Amarok crashing when I open an MP3 file from my directory "Music" folder. | 20:13 |
| LINKSWORD2 | I've purged, re-installed, cleared files, etc. | 20:13 |
| LINKSWORD2 | I've also created a "dummy" account to see if the problem is dependent on user config files. | 20:14 |
| LINKSWORD2 | However, I can't determine for sure, because I can't access my music from the dummy account. | 20:14 |
| LINKSWORD2 | I'm seriously considering copying my home directory and all sub-folders and files to an external drive, and starting over with a clean install of Kubuntu. | 20:16 |
| LINKSWORD2 | Unless I can resolve these config issues. And I suppose that's where I must ask, OerHeks, if you would help me? | 20:21 |
| OerHeks | ah, i gave you my solution, last time, to delete the amarok folder, wich was not the solution for you. | 20:23 |
| OerHeks | i have no idea how to fix that. | 20:23 |
| LINKSWORD2 | Would you advise copying the home directory to an external and starting with a fresh install? | 20:25 |
| oldos2er | Is everyone asleep? | 20:36 |
| OerHeks | it could solve this amarok issue, i 'm not sure what causes this error. since the delete i didn't have any errors. but if you want to play music from other accounts, i suggest put the music in a shared folder under /var/ ? | 20:37 |
| OerHeks | oldos2er, maybe, it is 22:37 over here .. | 20:38 |
| oldos2er | Ok. :) | 20:38 |
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| ayan1 | hi! | 20:50 |
| LINKSWORD2 | I suppose this means I'll be back in an hour or so. | 20:56 |
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| excognac | hi all. booted today for the third time as usually and received a notification about No touchpad found. this is an acer aspire 5750 laptop. Why could this problem occur? | 21:46 |
| excognac | And it actually doesn't work, an external mouse is connected for ages | 21:46 |
| excognac | before the touchpad functioned normally, even it was rarely used | 21:47 |
| well_laid_lawn | if you boot without the external mouse connected I bet it'll work | 22:00 |
| excognac | ok will try. the strange thing i always used the system like this, so why and how could this happen? | 22:05 |
| skreech_ | excognac: synaptics updated? | 22:14 |
| excognac | yes just had a sudo apt-get... | 22:14 |
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| mudassar | Hello people please help ==> Unable to negotiate a key exchange method | 22:27 |
| mudassar | any body ? | 22:31 |
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