[00:20] <jakemp> I am trying to run the wayland compositor, but I get this error: failed to load module: /lib/wayland/x11-backend.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:20] <jakemp> using libwayland from the repos
[01:38] <i_is_broke>  thinking about updating to 11.10 is it close to being stable? and what should i look for as issues running an amd quad core with 4 gig of ram and nvidia gt 240 vid.
[01:38] <urlin2u> i_is_broke, still in deve;opment don't as a main OS.
[01:40] <urlin2u> here is the release schedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[01:42] <i_is_broke> urlin2u, thank you,  and i know that its still in development. thats why i asked. and yes this is my main os.
[01:42] <i_is_broke> hows it do with vm?
[01:43] <len> i_is_broke, As we've been discussing, if you use KDE, one of your processors with get pinned at 100% usage when system is otherwise idle.  So, yes, there are  some issues you probably don't want to deal with.
[01:43] <urlin2u> not sure really, I use vbox, unity may or may not run in a virtual.
[01:43] <IdleOne> i_is_broke: thing is that it can be rock solid right now and in an hour be broken beyond repair
[01:44] <i_is_broke> haha, IdleOne i know i have had it happen before. so thanks. ill just hold off. i dont need one of my processors pegged like that.
[01:44] <len> Of course, if you get it in a "rock solid" state, you can always hold off on updates until the beta release
[01:45] <urlin2u> or clone it and let it update
[01:45] <i_is_broke> i might split the hard drive and run a seperate install on it.
[01:45] <i_is_broke> i can always include my home folder.
[01:45] <len> I have a notebook that is running without issues right now, and prob won't update til beta because it would get screwed up by some of the recent changes
[01:46] <i_is_broke> i dont even want to ask how it plays with ati. i know im not switching the laptop yet.
[01:47] <len> I was wondering about that.  Have several ati machines, but didn't attempt because I didn't want to deal with the normal fglrx issues
[01:48] <i_is_broke> i wished ati would get their crap together i do like there cards.
[01:49] <len> Main reason I switched was because I was having some issues with kwin, and heard that their was a major code cleanup of kwin in kde 4.7.  It seems to be true, 'cause I'm not having any kwin issues now.
[01:50] <i_is_broke> but ok, guys and galls. thanks for the 411.
[01:51] <len> oops, I mean "there" :(  My fingers made an idiot of me in irc
[01:51] <len> um, make :)
[01:53] <len> So, do a ton of people usually jump into ubuntu+1 at beta?
[01:54] <IdleOne> the combined weight must add up to a ton
[01:55] <len> So either a lot of really skinny people, or just a couple mobidly obese users
[01:56] <billybigrigger> hey all
[01:59] <len> billybigrigger, You have ubuntu on a notebook in your cab with you?
[01:59] <billybigrigger> my cab?
[02:00] <len> You a truck driver?
[02:00] <billybigrigger> na bud, i'm not a trucker, by bigrigger i'm referring to oil field rigs...
[02:00] <len> Ah, OK.
[02:00] <billybigrigger> but i have had my ubuntu laptop mounted in my pickup :P
[02:01] <len> What kind of mount?
[02:01] <IdleOne> shotgun mount
[02:01] <len> Kind of like the cops have in their cars?
[02:02] <billybigrigger> yeah exactly
[02:02] <billybigrigger> but now we have  a bunch of stupid driving laws that ban them, along with cell phones, and eating etc etc etc
[02:04] <billybigrigger> anyone aware of a more HDTV friendly ubuntu flavor?
[02:04] <billybigrigger> plane jane ubuntu doesn't gel well with an hdtv
[02:04] <len> One the otherhand, I see all kind of people doing all kinds of shit in their car that would surely run you over without even noticing if you crossed their path, because from looking at them you can tell they damn sure aren't watching the road.
[02:04] <IdleOne> mythbuntu  maybe
[02:05] <billybigrigger> ill give it a go, i don't really need a media center, but if it is more user friendly than this it might be worth it
[02:05] <billybigrigger> is there an A3 for myth yet?
[02:05] <len> I have two mythbuntu boxes hooked to hdtvs
[02:06] <billybigrigger> how is myth for everyday use? ie browsing, irc, email etc etc
[02:06] <billybigrigger> i know it's a great media center, but i need something suited for everyday use
[02:06] <IdleOne> billybigrigger: never tried it myself but I assume it does everything Ubuntu does + all the media stuff
[02:06] <billybigrigger> IdleOne, i would assume so too
[02:06] <len> Well, if you close the mythfrontend, its pretty much ubuntu with xfce desktop
[02:07] <billybigrigger> yeah so it will be the same thing i'm staring at right now
[02:07] <len> You're using xfce?
[02:07] <billybigrigger> tiny ass icons, with a tiny ass titlebar and will have the same overscan problems associated with an hdtv
[02:07] <billybigrigger> gnome
[02:07] <len> You can always install another de on mythbuntu if you like
[02:08] <billybigrigger> it's not the problem of any de
[02:08] <len> are you using ati?
[02:08] <billybigrigger> nvidia on this desktop, ati on my laptop
[02:08] <len> you need to change the overscan setting if you are
[02:08] <billybigrigger> my monitor shit the bed, so i'm stuck using my 52" hdtv as a monitor, and it's effin hell
[02:10] <billybigrigger> i have played with overscan in nvidia settings
[02:10] <len> both my myth boxes us integrated ati, and both needed to be adjusted to fit the hdtv
[02:10] <billybigrigger> ubuntu needs to create some sort of configuration for hdtvs, that makes the left launcher, and title bars easier to read with hdtv
[02:10] <len> There as a default 15% under or overscan  (don't remember) that needed to be set to zero.
[02:11] <billybigrigger> updates are done, lets see if anything is borked today :) brb need a restart
[02:11] <len> This was purely an ati fglrx driver issue
[02:12] <len> I had a mtyh box hooked up once too and seem to remember having to mess around with the nvidia driver too, but that was with a standard tv
[02:18] <billybigrigger> wow, .10 is a mess right now haha
[02:18] <billybigrigger> now i remember why 10.10 was my last time playing with alpha's :)
[02:18] <billybigrigger> or maybe it was 10.04
[02:21] <billybigrigger> anyone here testing the compiz pre-release?
[02:36] <billybigrigger> how do i add an http link to the left launcher?
[03:50] <kyubutsu> IdleOne: qdbus is under control after install of qt4-dev-tools
[03:51] <kyubutsu> the new thing of the hour is kded4
[03:51] <kyubutsu> o.0
[03:55] <kyubutsu> hm, muon is coming up with new dbus and akonadi updates...
[03:55]  * kyubutsu braces for impact
[03:56] <JontheEchidna> the akonadi one is a no-change rebuild, so no worries there
[03:57]  * kyubutsu hits 'apply changes'
[03:57] <kyubutsu> 0.o
[03:58] <billybigrigger> where is mozilla's plugin directory?
[03:58] <billybigrigger> ie for libflashplayer.so
[03:59] <billybigrigger> it's in /usr/lib right? not the one in my home dir?
[03:59] <JontheEchidna> I think it's at /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[03:59] <kyubutsu> conversely, you could grep for it
[04:00] <kyubutsu> you might be surprised to find more than one libflashplayer.so too
[04:01] <JontheEchidna> running locate libflashplayer.so is also an option
[04:02] <micahg> billybigrigger: either can be used actually, the one in the home dir will override the system one
[04:03] <urlin2u> billybigrigger, in addons
[04:04]  * micahg wonders why kubuntu has so much trouble with flashplugin-installer
[04:13] <kyubutsu_kde> log out failed with blank screen
[04:13] <kyubutsu_kde> kded4 still at 50%
[04:20] <kyubutsu_kde> akonadi agent launcher did not crash this time, cool
[04:31] <len> You don't need qt4-dev-tools anymore, btw. qdbus was split off into its own package and libqt4-dbus was given its a dep on it. Makes sense, since you shouldn't need to install dev packages for normal operation.
[04:56] <kyubutsu_kde> no dbus crash after removing qt4-dev-tools. but akonadi agent did it again
[04:57] <kyubutsu_kde> it's a minor bug, compared to what kded4 is doing
[05:00] <kyubutsu_kde> also, lost desktop effects. apparently "opengl crashed kwin (...) most likely due to driver bug."
[05:01] <kyubutsu_kde> am using gallium though
[05:01] <kyubutsu_kde> :(
[09:44] <Peddy> hello all, my qt apps don't match the gnome 3 theme, is this a known problem?
[10:00] <jbicha> Peddy: yes, all the work done to make qt & gtk play nice together needs to be ported to gtk3
[10:01] <Peddy> jbicha, thanks for the info. I'm loving it so far, I got the Adwaita theme from yesterday working (there is a bug report too)
[10:02] <jbicha> Peddy: yes, and I finally figured out what caused that bug
[10:08] <Peddy> jbicha, are you a wizard? I just downgraded for the time being
[10:11] <Peddy> tell me the secret of the bug
[10:11] <bullgard4_> [GNOME 3] How can Idelete permanently all games? After the recent automatic upgrade all games re-appered.
[10:15] <urlin2u> bullgard4, in synaptic
[10:16] <urlin2u> purge them
[10:16] <bullgard4_> urlin2u: I did purge them in Synaptic.
[10:16] <ebischoff> Message starting this morning on KDE login: xmessage -geometry 500x100 Could not start D-Bus. Can you call qdbus?
[10:16] <ebischoff> and there is no qdbus executable
[10:17] <urlin2u> bullgard4, probably being in development is just don't care. ;-)
[10:17] <ebischoff> did it move to some other package? apt-cache search does not help
[10:17] <bullgard4_> urlin2u: (*smile*)
[10:19] <ebischoff> natty manpage says that qdbus is Provided by: libqt4-dbus_4.7.2-0ubuntu5_i386
[10:20] <ebischoff> # dpkg -L libqt4-dbus | grep qdbus => no result on oneiric
[10:20] <ebischoff> $ dpkg -L libqt4-dbus | grep qdbus
[10:20] <ebischoff> /usr/share/man/man1/qdbus.1.gz
[10:20] <ebischoff> /usr/bin/qdbus
[10:20] <ebischoff> => on natty
[10:20] <ebischoff> ok, who broke this ? ;-)
[10:30] <drussell> anyone here use xchat?
[10:31] <drussell> I could do with someone confirming https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/827657
[10:35] <urlin2u> works on mine
[10:35] <urlin2u> drussell, you have preferred applications set
[10:35] <drussell> urlin2u: hmm I do indeed
[10:37] <drussell> urlin2u: x-www-browser                  manual   /usr/bin/firefox
[10:38] <urlin2u> I'm not in oneiric now but isn't it a drop down choice.
[10:39] <drussell> urlin2u: system settings > system info > web browser is set to firefox
[10:40] <drussell> urlin2u: the previous output is from the update-alternatives command
[10:40] <urlin2u> strange
[10:41] <drussell> urlin2u: if you could try it in oneiric when you next get a chance I'd much appreciate it
[10:41] <drussell> urlin2u: it certainly worked in maverick/natty
[10:42] <urlin2u> can you copy link and pastein browser?
[10:42] <drussell> urlin2u: yup that works fine
[10:42] <ebischoff> all : no one seen the problem with disappeared /usr/bin/qdbus ?
[10:42] <urlin2u> \let me look haold on
[10:43] <jtaylor> qdbus was moved to a different package I think
[10:43] <drussell> ebischoff: ~$ ll /usr/bin/qdbus
[10:43] <drussell> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 60K 2011-08-17 23:11 /usr/bin/qdbus*
[10:43] <jtaylor> I recall something about it from a recent changelog
[10:43] <ebischoff> drussel : on oneiric, and with all recent updates ?
[10:44] <ebischoff> jtaylor : yes, that's probably the explanation. Any idea about which package ?
[10:44]  * jtaylor updating his index
[10:44] <drussell> $ apt-file search /usr/bin/qdbus
[10:44] <drussell> libqt4-dbus: /usr/bin/qdbus
[10:45] <ebischoff> [12:20] <ebischoff> # dpkg -L libqt4-dbus | grep qdbus => no result on oneiric
[10:45] <ebischoff> [
[10:46] <jtaylor> qt4-x11 (4:4.7.3-4ubuntu6) oneiric; urgency=low
[10:46] <jtaylor>   * Break qdbus out into a separate 'qdbus' package and make it a dependency
[10:46] <jtaylor>     of libqt4-dbus, because some things will use this at runtime.
[10:46] <drussell> yeah sorry updated indexes and how it's qdbus: /usr/bin/qdbus
[10:46] <jtaylor> dpkg -L qdbus | grep bin/qdbus
[10:46] <drussell> as jtaylor said
[10:49] <drussell> wb urlin2u
[10:50] <jtaylor> anyone here using opera and ahs problems with flash?
[10:50] <urlin2u> desktop has gone south on me in oneiric, must have been last update lol
[10:50] <drussell> urlin2u: lol oh dear
[10:50] <drussell> urlin2u: when did you last update?
[10:50] <urlin2u> oh well no biggie
[10:51] <jtaylor> as long as a shells working, who needs a desktop ;)
[10:51] <urlin2u> today I think maybe yesterday for sure, I have compiz running the cube so I have tweaked it a bit
[10:51] <drussell> urlin2u: my desktop is fully updated oneiric currently and it's all mostly working (apart from the bugs I've filed ;o)
[10:51] <ebischoff> # dpkg -l qdbus
[10:51] <ebischoff> Aucun paquet ne correspond à qdbus.
[10:51] <ebischoff> root@mac:/home/eric# apt-get install qdbus
[10:51] <ebischoff> Reading package lists... Done
[10:51] <ebischoff> Building dependency tree
[10:51] <ebischoff> Reading state information... Done
[10:51] <ebischoff> E: Unable to locate package qdbus
[10:52] <drussell> ebischoff: try an apt-get update first?
[10:52] <ebischoff> yes i did
[10:52] <drussell> ebischoff: hmm I can't explain that then :o/
[10:52] <urlin2u> drussell, I just installed it a update,still a bit buggy on my computer, after years of messing with OS's I just use one that works most of the time.
[10:53] <ebischoff> an explanation could be something wrong in the sources.list :-(
[10:53] <jtaylor> ebischoff: which version is your libqt4-dbus?
[10:53] <ebischoff> ii  libqt4-dbus               4:4.7.3-4ubuntu5          Qt 4 D-Bus module
[10:53] <drussell> urlin2u: yeah I know what you mean, I don't usually update this early...
[10:53] <urlin2u> ebischoff, look in synaptic to see if its even there.
[10:53] <jtaylor> 4:4.7.3-4ubuntu6 is the newest
[10:53] <jtaylor> with the qdbus split
[10:53] <dabukalam> I'm trying to install ubuntu-desktop on a minimal oneiric, and I'm getting an error (ubuntu-desktop has unmet dependencies: Depends: gnome-session but it is not going to be installed Depends: unity but it is not going to be installed Depends: unity-2d but it is not going to be installed E:Broken Packages)
[10:54] <ebischoff> oh oh, that looks like the German repositories (which i use) are out of date
[10:54] <jtaylor> ebischoff: maybe your mirror is behind
[10:54] <ebischoff> so i only have to wait for their resync
[10:54] <jtaylor> ebischoff: de.archive is broken recently
[10:54] <ebischoff> yup
[10:54] <urlin2u> drussell, I install from the beginning usually, but since natty to many bugs while desktops are changing.
[10:54] <ebischoff> okay, everything is explained. thank you everyone
[10:54] <ebischoff> (any good archive to advice me ?)
[10:55] <jtaylor> change mirror :)
[10:55] <ebischoff> yes, to which one ?
[10:55] <jtaylor> synaptic has a tool to find the best
uh, i don't know synaptic</coward>
[10:56] <drussell> ebischoff: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-select-fastest-mirror-in-ubuntu.html
[10:56] <drussell> ebischoff: slightly outdated but principles are the same
[10:57] <jtaylor> synaptic -> repositories -> other -> select best mirror
[10:59] <ebischoff> ouch, synaptic depends on one zillion GNOME dependancies... won't install them just for that test. But thanks everyone nevertheless. As said before, a simple solution is to wait. Another is to test repositories at random too ;-).
[11:02] <ebischoff> Found a repository with qdbus in it
[11:02] <drussell> strange, I kind of expected there to be an apt- which had that functionality
[11:02] <drussell> yum has yum-fastestmirror
[11:03] <drussell> but there doesn't appear to be a similar thing for apt
"yum" and "fast" in the same sentence ?</troll>
[11:04] <ebischoff> also, what i needed was the most up to date repository, not the fastest
[11:05] <ebischoff> so it might be i would not have gotten the correct answer
[11:05] <ebischoff> ok, it worked, i'm logged in, thanks everyone !
[11:07] <ebischoff> (the only problem left i have with oneiric is that when i run mac os in virtualbox, the sound from itunes is a bit scratchy.... as you can see it's really no showstopper - lol)
[11:11] <drussell> ebischoff: ;o)
[11:12] <dabukalam> Pippi_Longstock: actually it's alpha
[11:12] <dabukalam> I'm trying to install ubuntu-desktop on a minimal oneiric, and I'm getting an error (ubuntu-desktop has unmet dependencies: Depends: gnome-session but it is not going to be installed Depends: unity but it is not going to be installed Depends: unity-2d but it is not going to be installed E:Broken Packages)
[11:15] <ebischoff> ok, thanks again everyone, and keep up with the good work. goodbye
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[11:19] <drussell> hulo
[11:30] <BluesKaj> this kded4 issue is slowing my pc down terribly ...it's not sota but this is becoming very annoying ...even webpages loading are affected now
[11:31] <yofel> downgrade libntrack0 and ntrack-module-libnl-0
[11:31] <yofel> bug 826969
[11:45] <BluesKaj> ok yofel , how to downgrade , just remove , and is there a fallback version ?
[11:45] <BluesKaj> or ?
[11:46] <yofel> well, 011-1ubuntu2 was the last one, if you don't have that fetching 011-1ubuntu1.1 from natty-updates will work
[13:12] <BluesKaj> yofel, I got busy with other stuff , any "how to's " downgrade ntrack ? Looks like trying to remove it will take most of the kubuntu desktop with it.
[13:16] <yofel> I would fetch the natty debs from p.u.c and dpkg -i them
[13:16] <drussell> BluesKaj: you could force a version by using sudo apt-get install ntrack=versionnumber
[13:16] <drussell> BluesKaj: if it's still in the repos
[13:32] <BluesKaj> yofel , p.u.c ?
[13:34] <yofel> BluesKaj: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libntrack0 http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/ntrack-module-libnl-0
[13:34] <yofel> or wait a bit, fix was uploaded
[13:35] <BluesKaj> ok yofel thanks , I'll wait
[14:50] <coz_> hey guys
[15:04] <charlie-tca> No mouse or keyboard today when booting Xubuntu Oneiric after running updates. Any ideas how to make it work again?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> ok ntrack bug updated/ upgraded and fixed ...poor old pc was geting hot ... cpu load back to normal now
[16:11] <mikebeecham> hey guys...is it worth upgrading to 11.10 yet?
[16:13] <charlie-tca> Depends on what that means. It is always worth testing to report as many of the bugs as possible early enough to get them fixed before release.
[16:13] <escott> mikebeecham, depends on if you have a good reason to upgrade. it seems reasonably stable, but there are plenty of bugs
[16:13] <charlie-tca> It is not worth upgrading if you need a stable system
[16:14] <charlie-tca> took me an hour today to get things to work again after the updates
[16:16] <Pici> I didn't even bother to update today, too many packages that would have been left hanging.
[16:16] <mikebeecham> well I dont NEED a stable system, but I guess it depends on the kind of things that are likely to go wrong
[16:16] <charlie-tca> I managed to ssh in, run updates again, run clean, run some other crap, then reboot and get it to work again
[16:17] <charlie-tca> Mine started all the way to lightdm, then I had no mouse or keyboard
[16:17] <charlie-tca> several reports the last two days of X not starting
[16:17] <Pici> I also have rebooted in... 2 weeks, and I'm afraid to.
[16:17] <escott> mikebeecham, be prepared to check in here often i guess
[16:17] <Pici> er, haven't.
[16:17] <charlie-tca> I can go a day or two, sometimes a week before I reboot and fight with it again
[16:22] <BluesKaj> for those who use kde, the kded4 the ntrack bug "fix is in the mix" /repositories
[16:24] <BluesKaj> I update/upgrade/dist-upgrade everyday... I have a life but it's a bit slow lately :)
[16:24] <Ian_Corne> i want my weather back in the time and date thingy
[16:29] <dsathe> i want my wireless broadband recogonised again
[16:29] <dsathe> or i will have no choice but to bid adeau to ubuntu
[16:29] <dsathe> :(
[16:29] <BluesKaj> dsathe,  which chip /module
[16:30] <dsathe> tata photon plus
[16:30] <dsathe> id 1446
[16:30] <dsathe> hauwei
[16:31] <BluesKaj> dsathe, sorry never heard of it ...new to me , but if NM doesn't work for you maybe wicd will
[16:31] <dsathe> hmm
[16:32] <dsathe> lemme try that
[16:32] <dsathe> wvdial dint recogonise it though
[16:32] <dsathe> :(
[16:33] <BluesKaj> wvdial is new to me as well ...I don't get around much
[16:34] <dsathe> KK
[16:34] <dsathe>  arch is seeming tempting now
[16:35] <dsathe> 2-3 packages i rely on may not work on arch so hesitant to switch
[16:35]  * BluesKaj shrugs  , well, whatever
[16:36] <dsathe> ill try a fresh install over the weekend, of oneric
[16:36] <dsathe> then letsee
[16:36] <dsathe> :)
[16:36] <dsathe> love the universe repo too much
[16:36] <dsathe> n ppa's ocourse :)
[16:37] <BluesKaj> dsathe, this is alpha phase 3 afterall ..gotta expect bugs , even tho they're annoying
[16:37] <dsathe> thats the fun
[16:37] <dsathe> :P
[16:37] <dsathe> oh arch has plenty more
[16:37] <dsathe> rooling rel
[16:38] <dsathe> need my datd card back n i am set ;)
[16:38] <BluesKaj> arch , not my cuppa tea ... I don't like hair shirts
[16:38] <dsathe> aha
[16:38] <dsathe> :D
[18:04] <tab1293> anyone know where i can find the realtek drivers for the RTL8188CE chipset for kernel 3.0?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> tab1293, http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8188CE
[18:13] <dupondje> Window manager warning: Failed to load theme "Adwaita": Line 119 character 50: Did not understand color component "custom(wm_title_highlight,gtk:base" in color specification
[18:13] <dupondje> mmmm ...
[18:13] <tab1293> BluesKaj: im pretty sure i tried to compile that driver and it didnt work on 3.0
[18:15] <BluesKaj> tab1293, yeah , I was afraid that it wouldn't run ..pretty old kernel ...dunno if there anu upgrades
[18:15] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-themes-standard/+bug/828543
[18:16] <tab1293> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46797 i compiled that driver in the comments that says it was patched but my wireless still seems to be very iffy
[18:41] <rohdef> has libXss somehow been removed from ia32-libs version 20090808ubuntu15?
[18:45] <rohdef> I can see it has, what do I do when Skype refuses to start with the message: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXss.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:45] <rohdef> and when I force it to look at the x86_64 path it says: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXss.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:51] <escott> rohdef, ia32-libs is on its way out in favor of multiarch
[18:51] <rohdef> ok, what do I need to install to fix this?
[18:52] <rohdef> binutils-multiarch?
[18:52] <rohdef> no says in the description that I won't need it
[18:52] <escott> rohdef, the package you want is libxss1:i386
[18:53] <escott> rohdef, nevermind sorry thats the 64bit one
[18:53] <rohdef> ah ok
[18:54] <escott> rohdef, multiarch should allow you to install the libxss1 386 version. check the multiarch wiki page
[18:55] <rohdef> I'll try because downgrading ia32 is only a very temporary solution
[18:55] <BluesKaj> well now , looks like there's a problem with flash on chromium , latest is enabled etc but the,  /var/lib/flashplugin-installer/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so , segfaults ...anyone else seeing this happen ?
[19:00] <rohdef> the wikis I found so far doesn't tell anything about how I actually use it
[19:00] <rohdef> a lot of rationale and explaining how it's (all sounds quite good, but not what I need)
[19:01] <rohdef> ah found something
[19:07] <rohdef> ok apart from I can't see how I see the difference between 32bit and 64bit packages in aptitude it looks really neat compared to the ia32 solution
[19:17] <osrcrocks> hello everybody ... can one discuss issues with updates in this channel?
[19:18] <rww> osrcrocks: updates to Ubuntu oneiric?
[19:18] <osrcrocks> regarding Oneiric, yes
[19:18] <rww> osrcrocks: yes
[19:18] <osrcrocks> thanks .... after updates today,  lightdm and/or gnome-session has problems
[19:19] <osrcrocks> it's not related to the glib2  issue ... I downgraded glib2 just in case .... still cannot get to the lightdm login
[19:21] <osrcrocks> I can use recovery mode and do a "startx" ... but that is not ideal
[19:21] <osrcrocks> could it be related to the recent libpam upgrades?
[19:22] <osrcrocks> any suggestions?
[19:24] <h00k> bah, when is art goong to drop for oneiric :(
[19:25] <h00k> *going
[19:28] <osrcrocks> specifically, boot stalls after "checking for battery ... OK"
[19:28] <rww> h00k: right before UI freeze! :D
[19:28] <rohdef> but damn it's messy when doing manual searches for everything. But ok all manual library work tends to become messy
[19:28] <h00k> rww: I know, I know...bah!
[19:29] <h00k> I'd just like to know what the wallpaper pack will be.
[19:29] <h00k> You know, the important things.
[19:29] <rww> pictures of ocelots that are asleep
[19:29] <rww> 11.1 ocelots
[19:29]  * h00k gives rww an additional zero
[19:30]  * rww gives h00k an additional zero
[19:31] <h00k> /nick h000k
[19:31] <BluesKaj> tried a purge then reinstall flashplugin-installer due to segfault with , /var/lib/flashplugin-installer/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so", the reultant > nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so"
[19:32] <IAmNotThatGuy> osrcrocks, ctrl + alt + F1 and typing sudo restart lightdm in the terminal?
[19:32] <osrcrocks> IAmNotThatGuy: I will try it again, thanks
[19:34] <BluesKaj> nspluginwrapper update is still bieng held back , but it's obviously needed
[20:16] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[20:16] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: thanks for the lightdm tip yesterday, but I still don't have a working login system :(
[20:17] <charlie-tca> sorry
[20:17] <charlie-tca> Took me an hour to get logged in today
[20:18] <charlie-tca> shouldn't have restarted after updating, I guess
[20:21] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: : startx
[20:21] <BUGabundo> protip
[20:21] <BUGabundo> free of charge
[20:21] <BUGabundo> oh wait
[20:21] <BUGabundo> its Friday
[20:21] <charlie-tca> Have to get to a tty to use it
[20:21] <BUGabundo> I better NOT do upgrades
[20:22] <charlie-tca> System was hanging long before that point, when it did go to lightdm, it was no keyboard or mouse time
[20:22] <BUGabundo> humm uogrades seem safe
[20:22] <charlie-tca> heh
[20:22] <charlie-tca> aint restarting again today
[20:22] <BUGabundo> LOL
[20:32] <h00k> So, the Skype is failing for me: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXss.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:32] <h00k> I thought that was maybe part of ia32-libs, but that's installed
[20:32] <h00k> I'm running 64bit.
[20:42] <rww> h00k: scroll up to rohdef's conversation earlier about it
[20:44] <BluesKaj> anyone else have flash segfaults ?
[20:46] <BUGabundo> no
[20:46] <BUGabundo> but I have with CIFS
[20:46] <BUGabundo> reported yesterdat
[20:49] <GTRsdk> has a package replaced xulrunner-dev?
[20:49] <h00k> rww: Yeah, I see that, but I didn't see a solution, but I can reread later when I get more of a chance to pay attention to it.
[20:58] <jtaylor> h00k: you need to install a bunch of i386 libs
[20:58] <jtaylor> libqtgui4:i386 libqt4-dbus:i386 libxss1:i386 on my system
[20:58] <GTRsdk> h00k: amd64 and oneiric?
[21:05] <len> Is anyone else having the KDE Printer applet crash on startup?
[21:08] <h00k> GTRsdk: yep
[22:07] <Machtin> BluesKaj: anything new on the kdeinit?
[22:45] <gr8Q> I need to update my wine git tree How to update it?
[22:46] <Ian_Corne> git update
[22:46] <Ian_Corne> i think
[22:47] <gr8Q> git: 'update' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
[22:47] <Ian_Corne> git pull
[22:48] <gr8Q> it said already up to date ?
[22:48] <Ian_Corne> it's git pull :)
[22:48] <Ian_Corne> err
[22:48] <Ian_Corne> gah, i'm bad at git sec :p
[22:49] <gr8Q> this is my version wine-1.3.14-3-g2da0a9c and want to go higher version
[23:08] <BUGabundo> in the mist of the night, I leave no trail. only one waits me, my beloved feather pillow
[23:14] <Ian_Corne> goodnight bullgard4