| jamesbv | Hey, I'm kinda new here and I'm having problems with Unity. | 03:19 |
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| holstein | jamesbv: hello | 03:19 |
| holstein | Guest34568: oh... i see you are having network problems too :/ | 03:22 |
| === Guest34568 is now known as magicjamesv | ||
| magicjamesv | Hello! | 03:24 |
| philipballew | holstein, congrats!!! | 03:24 |
| holstein | philipballew: :) | 03:24 |
| philipballew | magicjamesv, how goes it? | 03:25 |
| philipballew | did they teach you the secret handshake holstein :) | 03:25 |
| magicjamesv | It's pretty good, but my Unity panel and launcher are gone! | 03:25 |
| holstein | philipballew: lol | 03:26 |
| philipballew | what did you do when it went away? | 03:26 |
| magicjamesv | I think it was after I was messing with the settings in the CompizConfig | 03:26 |
| magicjamesv | but I reset those to their defaults... | 03:27 |
| philipballew | can you you a terminal | 03:27 |
| magicjamesv | yeah | 03:27 |
| holstein | magicjamesv: you can try making a new user temporarily, and logging in | 03:27 |
| magicjamesv | and I can use it in Ubuntu Classic | 03:27 |
| holstein | that'll help you narrow down the issue a bit | 03:27 |
| magicjamesv | I'll try that... | 03:28 |
| philipballew | "unity -reset" or something like that resets unity to its default settings | 03:28 |
| philipballew | how did the meeting go holstein | 03:29 |
| magicjamesv | yeah, I've tried unity -reset | 03:29 |
| holstein | philipballew: well... someone wasnt there, so darcy casselman and i just did our thing | 03:30 |
| philipballew | i figured.but you gotta get your bases covered | 03:30 |
| holstein | now... im legit :) | 03:30 |
| philipballew | To legit to quit! | 03:30 |
| holstein | :) | 03:30 |
| philipballew | i was gonna ask holstein is ubuntu studio gonna switch to xfce soon? | 03:31 |
| holstein | this cycle | 03:31 |
| holstein | hoping to be stable for 12.04 (lts) | 03:32 |
| magicjamesv | Woah! It works for the new user! | 03:32 |
| philipballew | how is the testing going? | 03:32 |
| philipballew | magicjamesv, thats good to hear | 03:32 |
| holstein | magicjamesv: interesting... so, there should be somthing in your /home directory you can trash, and it'll respawn | 03:32 |
| magicjamesv | ok, is dig around... | 03:32 |
| holstein | i would carefully move out unity named directories, and save them just in case | 03:32 |
| magicjamesv | *I'll | 03:33 |
| magicjamesv | ok | 03:33 |
| philipballew | ill took to. i have unity goin now | 03:33 |
| bioterror | holstein, you take xubuntu and you install some graphics, sound and video editing software. you have new studio with xfce4 ;) | 03:33 |
| holstein | magicjamesv: in dont have a test case running to help poke around right now :/ | 03:33 |
| holstein | but, hopefully its obvious | 03:33 |
| holstein | bioterror: dont think thats not on the table ;) | 03:33 |
| holstein | its been really great watching the xubuntu team too | 03:34 |
| holstein | those folks work hard, and have a great product because of it | 03:34 |
| philipballew | holstein, what if magicjamesv just pastbins the output of ls -a | 03:34 |
| holstein | philipballew: sure.. if you know what to look for... | 03:34 |
| philipballew | i have a .compez | 03:35 |
| holstein | magicjamesv: it could be that... one of the compiz ones | 03:35 |
| holstein | if you said you were messing around in there anyways... | 03:35 |
| magicjamesv | ok, I'll be right back | 03:37 |
| magicjamesv | ok, I'm back | 03:39 |
| philipballew | and? | 03:39 |
| magicjamesv | well, I moved the contents of the .compiz/session folder to a folder on my desktop, but it didn't make any difference. I tried resetting unity but it did the same thing | 03:41 |
| holstein | magicjamesv: its gotta be one of those UI related directories... or at least thats what i would expect | 03:42 |
| magicjamesv | ok, I'll keep poking around... | 03:42 |
| philipballew | id assume to. if unity -reset did not work id think its a compez setting. also you may just not have all the right settings | 03:43 |
| philipballew | oh .. | 03:43 |
| philipballew | id assume to. if unity -reset did not work id think its a compez setting. also you may just not have all the right settings magicjamesv | 03:44 |
| philipballew | like you might have something not clicked like it should | 03:45 |
| magicjamesv | hhmm..... | 03:45 |
| magicjamesv | oh hey daraeman! | 03:45 |
| * daraeman_ wonders who this is | 03:46 | |
| philipballew | magicjamesv, some people might not like it when you talk to them like that | 03:47 |
| holstein | apparently... | 03:47 |
| magicjamesv | sorry | 03:48 |
| magicjamesv | WooHoo! | 03:51 |
| magicjamesv | Guess what! | 03:51 |
| holstein | magicjamesv: what was it? | 03:51 |
| philipballew | let me guess | 03:51 |
| philipballew | you fixed it :) | 03:51 |
| magicjamesv | "Ubuntu Unity Plugin" was unchecked in Compiz! | 03:52 |
| philipballew | ... | 03:52 |
| holstein | thats good to know... i didnt even know about that checkbox... | 03:52 |
| philipballew | its all good :) | 03:52 |
| magicjamesv | but I learned a lot along the way! | 03:52 |
| * philipballew hopes he had fun to | 03:53 | |
| philipballew | magicjamesv, how goes it? | 03:54 |
| magicjamesv | It's working perfect now | 03:54 |
| philipballew | NICE!!! is there anything you'd like to do with it? | 03:55 |
| magicjamesv | With Unity? | 03:55 |
| philipballew | yeah? | 03:56 |
| philipballew | if you want something to mess with try this https://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/howto-get-the-compiz-desktop-cube-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-and-unity/ | 03:56 |
| philipballew | or ubuntu in general | 03:56 |
| * philipballew expects him to break unity soon if he follows the guide | 03:57 | |
| urlin2u | the cube is easy, just be ready for the desktop to go hogwild while seting it up. | 03:59 |
| urlin2u | ;-) | 03:59 |
| magicjamesv | Yeah, I have no desire to use that cube thing | 03:59 |
| philipballew | your missin out! | 04:00 |
| philipballew | well maybe not... | 04:00 |
| magicjamesv | Isn't it just a workspace switcher? | 04:01 |
| X-Hunter | hey guys | 04:01 |
| philipballew | basically. the unity workspace switcher is pretty nice | 04:01 |
| anon | ei | 04:01 |
| X-Hunter | i have a few questions about terminals | 04:02 |
| philipballew | 11.10 has unity and its much better to magicjamesv | 04:02 |
| philipballew | X-Hunter, go for it | 04:02 |
| magicjamesv | yeah, I haven't ever used more than on workspace so far though... | 04:02 |
| X-Hunter | terminals vs shells? whats the diff? | 04:02 |
| X-Hunter | what does "sudo" at the beginning of a line mean? | 04:03 |
| CrOnOs2000 | i must say i did not like unity maybe when is more mature chaged from lucid today | 04:03 |
| philipballew | sudo gives you root status | 04:04 |
| CrOnOs2000 | sudo is run the next comand as super user (root) | 04:04 |
| Singham | <X-Hunter> : sudo reffers to administrator privilages | 04:04 |
| X-Hunter | but cant u just put in su for superuser? | 04:04 |
| CrOnOs2000 | yes su root | 04:04 |
| X-Hunter | so by putting in su, i dont need any sudos until i have a new terminal window? | 04:05 |
| CrOnOs2000 | you can use sudo -i for a root terminal | 04:05 |
| philipballew | magicjamesv, it helps if like you have mutiple apps open. not as much on a unity ui | 04:06 |
| CrOnOs2000 | until you use exit or close the terminal will remain as root use | 04:06 |
| CrOnOs2000 | user* | 04:06 |
| X-Hunter | thx, i dont feel like a (huge) noob anymore!!!!!!! | 04:06 |
| stlsaint | X-Hunter: understand that when you invoke a root terminal you will not be prompted to verify any modifications you do! | 04:06 |
| X-Hunter | ok | 04:06 |
| X-Hunter | good to know | 04:06 |
| stlsaint | X-Hunter: a root terminal has fatal consequences to a system | 04:06 |
| Singham | <X-Hunter> : try "man sudo" for more information | 04:07 |
| X-Hunter | cool, cool | 04:07 |
| magicjamesv | philipballew, yeah, I'm not much of a multitasker yet. Also, my machine can't support more that a few programs running at the same time | 04:07 |
| X-Hunter | is a gui or a terminal better for file management | 04:08 |
| philipballew | magicjamesv, how much ram you got? | 04:08 |
| magicjamesv | X-Hunter, I'm a noob too!! | 04:08 |
| stlsaint | X-Hunter: this is up to you | 04:08 |
| magicjamesv | philipballew 2 gigs | 04:09 |
| stlsaint | X-Hunter: there is no "better" for file management | 04:09 |
| X-Hunter | heh heh go fig | 04:09 |
| X-Hunter | g2g thx 4 all of ur help!!!!! | 04:09 |
| magicjamesv | this is pretty cool. I think I'll be using A LOT more often now | 04:10 |
| philipballew | magicjamesv, its the quickest way to get help usually | 04:11 |
| magicjamesv | yeah, are there usually people on here? | 04:11 |
| philipballew | most always. sometimes it gets slow at like 4 in the morning. but other then that people are always on | 04:12 |
| philipballew | feel free to stay. even help | 04:12 |
| philipballew | Join the community! | 04:13 |
| magicjamesv | ok, is it usually the same group of people? | 04:13 |
| philipballew | usually. you'll get to know the regulars on here. | 04:14 |
| magicjamesv | fun stuff | 04:14 |
| philipballew | is ubuntu running well overall as a whole? | 04:14 |
| magicjamesv | yeah, but it's still missing all that Adobe software... | 04:16 |
| philipballew | cs5 and stuff? | 04:16 |
| magicjamesv | CS5.5 and stuff! | 04:16 |
| CrOnOs2000 | lol why i use dreamweaver on wine | 04:17 |
| philipballew | CrOnOs2000, i hear that runs well | 04:17 |
| magicjamesv | Adobe needs to get their stuff together and release CS6 on Linux | 04:17 |
| CrOnOs2000 | it does im installing edge now from adobe | 04:17 |
| magicjamesv | yeah, maybe dreamweaver and Illustrator, but not Advanced film production/visual effects programs like After effects and Premiere Pro | 04:18 |
| bodhizazen | CrOnOs2000, I am old school, if you are going to do web pages, learn html and css and use vim =) | 04:18 |
| philipballew | magicjamesv, its like linux has a small market they say but if they ran cs5 more people who just need a comp for adobe stuff would use ubuntu | 04:19 |
| philipballew | vi is nice with html. its a good way to learn ot bod | 04:19 |
| philipballew | bodhizazen, ^ | 04:19 |
| CrOnOs2000 | well i only make personal and family web so i see no point on be and expert on that :D | 04:19 |
| bodhizazen | no way, vim + zenburn FTW | 04:20 |
| magicjamesv | As soon as I can (smoothly) run After Effects on Ubuntu, I'll completely drop Windows | 04:20 |
| CrOnOs2000 | well you can always use a VM and run your programs | 04:21 |
| bodhizazen | What is After Effects ? | 04:21 |
| CrOnOs2000 | vmware is exelent | 04:21 |
| bodhizazen | sounds like a medical procedure gone bad | 04:21 |
| CrOnOs2000 | lol | 04:22 |
| bodhizazen | vmware - eww ... | 04:22 |
| magicjamesv | I haven't tried VM yet, doesn't it really slow things down though? | 04:22 |
| bodhizazen | KVM + spice | 04:22 |
| anon | magicjamesv: adobe wont make those products available for *nix anytime soon | 04:23 |
| anon | market share bs | 04:23 |
| philipballew | magicjamesv, it really depends on your system | 04:23 |
| bodhizazen | magicjamesv, not at all =) | 04:23 |
| CrOnOs2000 | not realy on my p4 intel windows run almost the same | 04:23 |
| bodhizazen | depends on if you have the hardware (KVM) | 04:23 |
| anon | later | 04:23 |
| magicjamesv | bodhizazen, After Effects is Adobe's advanced Visual Effects/Compositing/Motion Graphics program | 04:24 |
| philipballew | bodhizazen, you run kvm? | 04:25 |
| bodhizazen | yes philipballew | 04:26 |
| philipballew | nice! | 04:26 |
| bodhizazen | spice is very nice, you will enjoy it once it migrates from Fedora into Ubuntu | 04:26 |
| philipballew | magicjamesv, if you wanna run adobe products id look into wine or crossover | 04:27 |
| bodhizazen | The spice server gives very nice resolution, up to 1920x1200, combined with a VNC server + speed + copy paste from guest to host | 04:27 |
| bodhizazen | I connect to the spice server and can copy-past over the VNC client | 04:28 |
| bodhizazen | fast enough to play music | 04:28 |
| bodhizazen | But the version in the ubuntu ppa is err a first step in the right direction | 04:28 |
| bodhizazen | Currently I am connecting to 4 spice clients - oneric, fedora, scientific, and backtrack | 04:29 |
| * bodhizazen is a VM addict | 04:31 | |
| magicjamesv | I'll try AE CS4 with Wine tomorrow, goodbye! | 04:31 |
| stlsaint | bodhizazen: arent we all?! Sup man | 04:54 |
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| Pauliax | Cronos2000 i solved my problem but sill thank you | 22:30 |
| philipballew | he appears to be gone Pauliax | 22:30 |
| philipballew | :( | 22:30 |
| Pauliax | then thants for you all :) | 22:32 |
| Pauliax | sorry for my english | 22:32 |
| philipballew | its all good Pauliax :) | 22:32 |
| Pauliax | why chood you use #ubuntu main channel? maybe they call you dick? | 23:24 |
| Pauliax | still at leats on this channel people helped me, on other called me dick o_0 | 23:27 |
| Unit193 | !language | 23:30 |
| ubot2 | Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 23:30 |
| Pauliax | sorry? just a citate | 23:31 |
| Pauliax | #ubuntu wortless channel, dont waste your ther | 23:34 |
| Pauliax | i really dont understant if they say its oficial, and when you go there they call you d**k, and got banned, and there in #ubuntu-beginers you got support! | 23:38 |
| pleia2 | Pauliax: here is really not the place to insult other channels | 23:46 |
| geirha | Pauliax: The guy who called you that were also banned. You were banned since you cursed after you were warned about not cursing. | 23:46 |
| pleia2 | if you have a problem with #ubuntu you should report it to the IRC Council: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil | 23:46 |
| Pauliax | thank you! this channel is mutvh better | 23:50 |
| Pauliax | oh realy sorry, for my language! | 23:54 |
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