[03:19] <jamesbv> Hey, I'm kinda new here and I'm having problems with Unity.
[03:19] <holstein> jamesbv: hello
[03:22] <holstein> Guest34568: oh... i see you are having network problems too :/
[03:24] <magicjamesv> Hello!
[03:24] <philipballew> holstein, congrats!!!
[03:24] <holstein> philipballew: :)
[03:25] <philipballew> magicjamesv, how goes it?
[03:25] <philipballew> did they teach you the secret handshake holstein :)
[03:25] <magicjamesv> It's pretty good, but my Unity panel and launcher are gone!
[03:26] <holstein> philipballew: lol
[03:26] <philipballew> what did you do when it went away?
[03:26] <magicjamesv> I think it was after I was messing with the settings in the CompizConfig
[03:27] <magicjamesv> but I reset those to their defaults...
[03:27] <philipballew> can you you a terminal
[03:27] <magicjamesv> yeah
[03:27] <holstein> magicjamesv: you can try making a new user temporarily, and logging in
[03:27] <magicjamesv> and I can use it in Ubuntu Classic
[03:27] <holstein> that'll help you narrow down the issue a bit
[03:28] <magicjamesv> I'll try that...
[03:28] <philipballew> "unity -reset" or something like that resets unity to its default settings
[03:29] <philipballew> how did the meeting go holstein
[03:29] <magicjamesv> yeah, I've tried unity -reset
[03:30] <holstein> philipballew: well... someone wasnt there, so darcy casselman and i just did our thing
[03:30] <philipballew> i figured.but you gotta get your bases covered
[03:30] <holstein> now... im legit :)
[03:30] <philipballew> To legit to quit!
[03:30] <holstein> :)
[03:31] <philipballew> i was gonna ask holstein is ubuntu studio gonna switch to xfce soon?
[03:31] <holstein> this cycle
[03:32] <holstein> hoping to be stable for 12.04 (lts)
[03:32] <magicjamesv> Woah! It works for the new user!
[03:32] <philipballew> how is the testing going?
[03:32] <philipballew> magicjamesv, thats good to hear
[03:32] <holstein> magicjamesv: interesting... so, there should be somthing in your /home directory you can trash, and it'll respawn
[03:32] <magicjamesv> ok, is dig around...
[03:32] <holstein> i would carefully move out unity named directories, and save them just in case
[03:33] <magicjamesv> *I'll
[03:33] <magicjamesv> ok
[03:33] <philipballew> ill took to. i have unity goin now
[03:33] <bioterror> holstein, you take xubuntu and you install some graphics, sound and video editing software. you have new studio with xfce4 ;)
[03:33] <holstein> magicjamesv: in dont have a test case running to help poke around right now :/
[03:33] <holstein> but, hopefully its obvious
[03:33] <holstein> bioterror: dont think thats not on the table ;)
[03:34] <holstein> its been really great watching the xubuntu team too
[03:34] <holstein> those folks work hard, and have a great product because of it
[03:34] <philipballew> holstein, what if magicjamesv just pastbins the output of ls -a
[03:34] <holstein> philipballew: sure.. if you know what to look for...
[03:35] <philipballew> i have a .compez
[03:35] <holstein> magicjamesv: it could be that... one of the compiz ones
[03:35] <holstein> if you said you were messing around in there anyways...
[03:37] <magicjamesv> ok, I'll be right back
[03:39] <magicjamesv> ok, I'm back
[03:39] <philipballew> and?
[03:41] <magicjamesv> well, I moved the contents of the .compiz/session folder to a folder on my desktop, but it didn't make any difference. I tried resetting unity but it did the same thing
[03:42] <holstein> magicjamesv: its gotta be one of those UI related directories... or at least thats what i would expect
[03:42] <magicjamesv> ok, I'll keep poking around...
[03:43] <philipballew> id assume to. if unity -reset did not work id think its a compez setting. also you may just not have all the right settings
[03:43] <philipballew> oh ..
[03:44] <philipballew>  id assume to. if unity -reset did not work id think its a compez setting. also you may just not have all the right settings  magicjamesv
[03:45] <philipballew> like you might have something not clicked like it should
[03:45] <magicjamesv> hhmm.....
[03:45] <magicjamesv> oh hey daraeman!
[03:46]  * daraeman_ wonders who this is
[03:47] <philipballew> magicjamesv, some people might not like it when you talk to them like that
[03:47] <holstein> apparently...
[03:48] <magicjamesv> sorry
[03:51] <magicjamesv> WooHoo!
[03:51] <magicjamesv> Guess what!
[03:51] <holstein> magicjamesv: what was it?
[03:51] <philipballew> let me guess
[03:51] <philipballew> you fixed it :)
[03:52] <magicjamesv> "Ubuntu Unity Plugin" was unchecked in Compiz!
[03:52] <philipballew> ...
[03:52] <holstein> thats good to know... i didnt even know about that checkbox...
[03:52] <philipballew> its all good :)
[03:52] <magicjamesv> but I learned a lot along the way!
[03:53]  * philipballew hopes he had fun to
[03:54] <philipballew> magicjamesv, how goes it?
[03:54] <magicjamesv> It's working perfect now
[03:55] <philipballew> NICE!!! is there anything you'd like to do with it?
[03:55] <magicjamesv> With Unity?
[03:56] <philipballew> yeah?
[03:56] <philipballew> if you want something to mess with try this https://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/howto-get-the-compiz-desktop-cube-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-and-unity/
[03:56] <philipballew> or ubuntu in general
[03:57]  * philipballew expects him to break unity soon if he follows the guide
[03:59] <urlin2u> the cube is easy, just be ready for the desktop to go hogwild while seting it up.
[03:59] <urlin2u> ;-)
[03:59] <magicjamesv> Yeah, I have no desire to use that cube thing
[04:00] <philipballew> your missin out!
[04:00] <philipballew> well maybe not...
[04:01] <magicjamesv> Isn't it just a workspace switcher?
[04:01] <X-Hunter> hey guys
[04:01] <philipballew> basically. the unity workspace switcher is pretty nice
[04:01] <anon> ei
[04:02] <X-Hunter> i have a few questions about terminals
[04:02] <philipballew> 11.10 has unity and its much better to magicjamesv
[04:02] <philipballew> X-Hunter, go for it
[04:02] <magicjamesv> yeah, I haven't ever used more than on workspace so far though...
[04:02] <X-Hunter> terminals vs shells? whats the diff?
[04:03] <X-Hunter> what does "sudo" at the beginning of a line mean?
[04:03] <CrOnOs2000> i must say i did not like unity maybe when is more mature chaged from lucid today
[04:04] <philipballew> sudo gives you root status
[04:04] <CrOnOs2000> sudo is run the next comand as super user (root)
 : sudo reffers to administrator privilages
[04:04] <X-Hunter> but cant u just put in su for superuser?
[04:04] <CrOnOs2000> yes su root
[04:05] <X-Hunter> so by putting in su, i dont need any sudos until i have a new terminal window?
[04:05] <CrOnOs2000> you can use sudo -i for a root terminal
[04:06] <philipballew> magicjamesv, it helps if like you have mutiple apps open. not as much on a unity ui
[04:06] <CrOnOs2000> until you use exit or close the terminal will remain as root use
[04:06] <CrOnOs2000> user*
[04:06] <X-Hunter> thx, i dont feel like a (huge) noob anymore!!!!!!!
[04:06] <stlsaint> X-Hunter: understand that when you invoke a root terminal you will not be prompted to verify any modifications you do!
[04:06] <X-Hunter> ok
[04:06] <X-Hunter> good to know
[04:06] <stlsaint> X-Hunter: a root terminal has fatal consequences to a system
 : try "man sudo" for more information
[04:07] <X-Hunter> cool, cool
[04:07] <magicjamesv> philipballew, yeah, I'm not much of a multitasker yet. Also, my machine can't support more that a few programs running at the same time
[04:08] <X-Hunter> is a gui or a terminal better for file management
[04:08] <philipballew> magicjamesv, how much ram you got?
[04:08] <magicjamesv> X-Hunter, I'm a noob too!!
[04:08] <stlsaint> X-Hunter: this is up to you
[04:09] <magicjamesv> philipballew 2 gigs
[04:09] <stlsaint> X-Hunter: there is no "better" for file management
[04:09] <X-Hunter> heh heh go fig
[04:09] <X-Hunter> g2g thx 4 all of ur help!!!!!
[04:10] <magicjamesv> this is pretty cool. I think I'll be using A LOT more often now
[04:11] <philipballew> magicjamesv, its the quickest way to get help usually
[04:11] <magicjamesv> yeah, are there usually people on here?
[04:12] <philipballew> most always. sometimes it gets slow at like 4 in the morning. but other then that people are always on
[04:12] <philipballew> feel free to stay. even help
[04:13] <philipballew> Join the community!
[04:13] <magicjamesv> ok, is it usually the same group of people?
[04:14] <philipballew> usually. you'll get to know the regulars on here.
[04:14] <magicjamesv> fun stuff
[04:14] <philipballew> is ubuntu running well overall as a whole?
[04:16] <magicjamesv> yeah, but it's still missing all that Adobe software...
[04:16] <philipballew> cs5 and stuff?
[04:16] <magicjamesv> CS5.5 and stuff!
[04:17] <CrOnOs2000> lol why i use dreamweaver on wine
[04:17] <philipballew> CrOnOs2000, i hear that runs well
[04:17] <magicjamesv> Adobe needs to get their stuff together and release CS6 on Linux
[04:17] <CrOnOs2000> it does im installing edge now from adobe
[04:18] <magicjamesv> yeah, maybe dreamweaver and Illustrator, but not Advanced film production/visual effects programs like After effects and Premiere Pro
[04:18] <bodhizazen> CrOnOs2000, I am old school, if you are going to do web pages, learn html and css and use vim =)
[04:19] <philipballew> magicjamesv, its like linux has a small market they say but if they ran cs5 more people who just need a comp for adobe stuff would use ubuntu
[04:19] <philipballew> vi is nice with html. its a good way to learn ot bod
[04:19] <philipballew> bodhizazen, ^
[04:19] <CrOnOs2000> well i only make personal and family web so i see no point on be and expert on that :D
[04:20] <bodhizazen> no way, vim + zenburn FTW
[04:20] <magicjamesv> As soon as I can (smoothly) run After Effects on Ubuntu, I'll completely drop Windows
[04:21] <CrOnOs2000> well you can always use a VM and run your programs
[04:21] <bodhizazen> What is After Effects ?
[04:21] <CrOnOs2000> vmware is exelent
[04:21] <bodhizazen> sounds like a medical procedure gone bad
[04:22] <CrOnOs2000> lol
[04:22] <bodhizazen> vmware - eww ...
[04:22] <magicjamesv> I haven't tried VM yet, doesn't it really slow things down though?
[04:22] <bodhizazen> KVM + spice
[04:23] <anon> magicjamesv: adobe wont make those products available for *nix anytime soon
[04:23] <anon> market share bs
[04:23] <philipballew> magicjamesv, it really depends on your system
[04:23] <bodhizazen> magicjamesv, not at all =)
[04:23] <CrOnOs2000> not realy on my p4 intel windows run almost the same
[04:23] <bodhizazen> depends on if you have the hardware (KVM)
[04:23] <anon> later
[04:24] <magicjamesv> bodhizazen, After Effects is Adobe's advanced Visual Effects/Compositing/Motion Graphics program
[04:25] <philipballew> bodhizazen, you run kvm?
[04:26] <bodhizazen> yes philipballew
[04:26] <philipballew> nice!
[04:26] <bodhizazen> spice is very nice, you will enjoy it once it migrates from Fedora into Ubuntu
[04:27] <philipballew> magicjamesv, if you wanna run adobe products id look into wine or crossover
[04:27] <bodhizazen> The spice server gives very nice resolution, up to 1920x1200, combined with a VNC server + speed + copy paste from guest to host
[04:28] <bodhizazen> I connect to the spice server and can copy-past over the VNC client
[04:28] <bodhizazen> fast enough to play music
[04:28] <bodhizazen> But the version in the ubuntu ppa is err a first step in the right direction
[04:29] <bodhizazen> Currently I am connecting to 4 spice clients - oneric, fedora, scientific, and backtrack
[04:31]  * bodhizazen is a VM addict
[04:31] <magicjamesv> I'll try AE CS4 with Wine tomorrow, goodbye!
[04:54] <stlsaint> bodhizazen: arent we all?! Sup man
[22:30] <Pauliax> Cronos2000 i solved my problem but sill thank you
[22:30] <philipballew> he appears to be gone Pauliax
[22:30] <philipballew> :(
[22:32] <Pauliax> then thants for you all :)
[22:32] <Pauliax> sorry for my english
[22:32] <philipballew> its all good Pauliax :)
[23:24] <Pauliax> why chood you use #ubuntu main channel? maybe they call you dick?
[23:27] <Pauliax> still at leats on this channel people helped me, on other called me dick o_0
[23:30] <Unit193> !language
[23:30] <ubot2> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[23:31] <Pauliax> sorry? just a citate
[23:34] <Pauliax> #ubuntu wortless channel, dont waste your ther
[23:38] <Pauliax> i really dont understant if they say its oficial, and when you go there they call you d**k, and got banned, and there in #ubuntu-beginers you got support!
[23:46] <pleia2> Pauliax: here is really not the place to insult other channels
[23:46] <geirha> Pauliax: The guy who called you that were also banned. You were banned since you cursed after you were warned about not cursing.
[23:46] <pleia2> if you have a problem with #ubuntu you should report it to the IRC Council: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil
[23:50] <Pauliax> thank you! this channel is mutvh better
[23:54] <Pauliax> oh realy sorry, for my language!