| crashsystems1 | The street is blocked off? So no meetup in mountain view then? | 01:04 |
|---|---|---|
| pleia2 | crashsystems1: according to the mailing list they are rescheduling it due to the street fair (which I assume is what caused the street closure?) | 01:08 |
| pleia2 | and nothing in the loco directory for tonight | 01:08 |
| crashsystems1 | :/ | 01:08 |
| akk | I assumed it wasn't on since I hadn't seen any followup. It's certainly hard to get around, or park, during those street fairs. | 01:08 |
| regularjo | When I reconnect, I didn't see the entry "regularjo has jointed etc" Am I here | 03:08 |
| akk | It doesn't show that to you, just to everyone else. | 03:10 |
| regularjo | ok | 03:12 |
| pleia2 | updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Picnix20 - other stuff we need? I went through the notes from last year | 04:04 |
| * pleia2 heads out to dinner for real now | 04:04 | |
| philipballew | DarkwingDuck, how goes it :) | 04:13 |
| DarkwingDuck | philipballew: it goes | 04:20 |
| philipballew | no worries. :) | 04:21 |
| DarkwingDuck | Working with my server ATM | 04:21 |
| DarkwingDuck | trying to get a local oneiric repository. | 04:21 |
| philipballew | how hard is that? ive never done that | 04:21 |
| DarkwingDuck | Dunno. My server is being a PITA | 04:22 |
| * DarkwingDuck sighs | 04:22 | |
| philipballew | how so is it? | 04:22 |
| DarkwingDuck | Maverick will work. Natty and Oneiric will not load at all. | 04:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | It gets to GRUB then, Blank | 04:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | on oneiric | 04:23 |
| rww | So how do I get myself added to this Ubuntu California planet thing? | 04:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | On Natty it errors out with noaveu (sp?) | 04:23 |
| philipballew | DarkwingDuck, even recovery mode? | 04:23 |
| philipballew | odd | 04:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yup | 04:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | Lets see how Oneiric handles recovery | 04:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | GARRRG | 04:25 |
| rww | I take it that means "badly" | 04:25 |
| rww | or "zombies interrupted the experiment" | 04:25 |
| rww | or "I got distracted and started reading the 'sounder' archive and now I am unable to form sentences" | 04:26 |
| grantbow | lol | 04:26 |
| DarkwingDuck | No, it failed the first time, worked going into recovery the second time. | 04:26 |
| DarkwingDuck | running dpkg | 04:27 |
| * DarkwingDuck wonders | 04:29 | |
| DarkwingDuck | curses | 04:30 |
| DarkwingDuck | Okay, this is effing wierd. | 04:32 |
| DarkwingDuck | *Weird | 04:32 |
| philipballew | would a different version of grub be to blame? | 04:33 |
| DarkwingDuck | Get this... | 04:33 |
| DarkwingDuck | I let it boot it wont load. | 04:33 |
| DarkwingDuck | If I boot into recovery, then tell it to resume normal booting it works. | 04:33 |
| philipballew | ive seen that problem before | 04:34 |
| philipballew | i booted into resume normal boot then updated my machine then it was fine | 04:35 |
| philipballew | bkerensa, i liked your answer on http://askubuntu.com/questions/56963/what-are-the-ethics-of-having-a-company-sponsor-a-loco-team-event | 05:01 |
| bkerensa | yeah? | 05:01 |
| bkerensa | philipballew: Well its how I feel | 05:02 |
| DarkwingDuck | Got an error now... | 05:04 |
| philipballew | what error DarkwingDuck | 05:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | /lib/udev/input_id errors. | 05:08 |
| philipballew | seems odd myself | 05:09 |
| philipballew | this is ubuntu server? | 05:09 |
| philipballew | i think you said that before | 05:10 |
| philipballew | bkerensa, and it seems like a good thought out answer. really respectful to | 05:12 |
| DarkwingDuck | yup | 05:14 |
| philipballew | did the server channel help at all? | 05:15 |
| DarkwingDuck | Not at this hour. | 05:17 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'm hitting the sack then i'll work on it tomorrow. | 05:17 |
| philipballew | good luck! | 05:17 |
| DarkwingDuck | Apparently someone is going to send me a Droid DX2 to se if I can hack the bootloader. | 05:18 |
| philipballew | wow. what are you gonnna do when you hack it? | 05:18 |
| DarkwingDuck | custom kernels, ROMs and ASOP Android | 05:19 |
| DarkwingDuck | Prolly overclock it | 05:19 |
| philipballew | nice! | 05:19 |
| philipballew | i need to buy an android sometime | 05:19 |
| DarkwingDuck | Getting a Charge next week. | 05:19 |
| philipballew | for? | 05:20 |
| DarkwingDuck | 10 bucks | 05:20 |
| DarkwingDuck | Droid Charge | 05:21 |
| philipballew | why? | 05:21 |
| DarkwingDuck | Because I know a guy who works for Samsung | 05:24 |
| aaditya | Wiki is not allowing me to login. :'( | 06:41 |
| pleia2 | :( | 06:41 |
| pleia2 | getting an error, or just slow? | 06:41 |
| aaditya | slow enough to timeout. | 06:41 |
| aaditya | Ohey, it went through after about 50 seconds of waiting. | 06:42 |
| pleia2 | yeah, it does that sometimes | 06:42 |
| rww | pleia2: oh, hey, you're still awake. How do I add myself to Planet Ubuntu California? | 06:42 |
| pleia2 | rww: jtatum put the config in bzr, lemme see... | 06:44 |
| pleia2 | ok, so you can grab https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-california-website/ubuntu-california-website/planet-configuration and do an MP with your change, or just tell me your rss feed and name and I'll pop it in :) | 06:45 |
| rww | I haven't done an MP in a while, I'll go do that to make sure I still remember how. | 06:45 |
| pleia2 | it's easy, and just assign it to lyz as reviewer or whatever | 06:46 |
| pleia2 | (I forget the exact term) | 06:46 |
| pleia2 | now I just need to figure out where to do the pull | 06:46 |
| pleia2 | there we go | 06:50 |
| rww | okay, I think I did that right | 06:52 |
| pleia2 | slow lp | 06:54 |
| * pleia2 frowns at launchpad | 07:02 | |
| philipballew | why pleia2? | 07:03 |
| pleia2 | I fail at bzr | 07:03 |
| pleia2 | or it's just being slow | 07:03 |
| philipballew | maybe your internet is slow? bzr has always confused me. seems like an odd system. launchpad as a whole is kinda odd | 07:04 |
| pleia2 | nah, it's just taking time for changes to show up in the web interface | 07:04 |
| pleia2 | in general bzr is not all that odd for a revision control system | 07:05 |
| philipballew | did ubuntu design it or was is used before? | 07:05 |
| * philipballew only used it with launchpad himself | 07:05 | |
| pleia2 | canonical built launchpad | 07:06 |
| philipballew | Its true. for a while it was even closed source | 07:06 |
| pleia2 | rww: ran venus manually, your blog shows up in the list now :) | 07:17 |
| pleia2 | the europeans are waking up, sleepiestime now | 07:18 |
| rww | pleia2: thanks :) | 07:22 |
| rww | pleia2: alrighty, I queued a post up for the Planets. If planet.ubuntu and planet.ubuntu-california catch on fire on Sunday, you know who to blame :) | 07:28 |
| seidos | morn | 14:07 |
| bkerensa | morn | 14:47 |
| jledbetter | good morning seidos | 14:52 |
| bsmartt` | goodmorning everyone! First timer here, I've recently begun learning how to join the bugsquad, and I am also interested in getting involved in the CA loco. I see there is a picnic in sunnyvale August 18th which I look forward to attending. Can someone tell me a little more about getting involved? | 16:33 |
| pleia2 | welcome bsmartt` | 16:38 |
| bsmartt` | thanks pleia2 :-) | 16:38 |
| pleia2 | the picnic in sunnyvale is august 27th | 16:38 |
| pleia2 | are you subscribed to our mailing list? | 16:38 |
| bsmartt` | Ok, so the meeting in the motd is something different? | 16:38 |
| akk | Most planning happens here on the channel, and a little on the mailing list. | 16:39 |
| pleia2 | hanging out here and being on the mailing list are your best ways to stay informed so you can help with projects and events as they come along | 16:39 |
| pleia2 | bsmartt`: where? | 16:39 |
| akk | bsmartt`: Meetings happen here on the channel. | 16:40 |
| pleia2 | (if we have the date wrong somewhere we should fix it, the 18th was yesterday) | 16:40 |
| bsmartt` | the message of the day? maybe thats not the right thing to call it. it's in the channel title | 16:40 |
| bsmartt` | Topic is "Welcome to the Ubuntu California Local Community (LoCo) Team! | Webpage: http://ubuntu-california.org (has links to mailing list, forum, and more!) | Next Meeting: Sunday, August 28th, 7:00pm PDT | 16:41 |
| akk | In the topic it says Sun Aug 28 | 16:41 |
| pleia2 | ah, the picnic is on the 27th, our next meeting here is on the 28th | 16:41 |
| pleia2 | picnic details: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Picnix20 | 16:41 |
| bsmartt` | great, I'll see you guys there! | 16:42 |
| pleia2 | cool :) | 16:42 |
| pleia2 | the wiki page has a list of things we still need, if you're able to add to that list or think of other things you can bring please do | 16:42 |
| bsmartt` | I'll try to bring something, I'll see if I can find orange table cloths :-) | 16:43 |
| pleia2 | last time we just got them at a dollar store | 16:43 |
| pleia2 | they only lasted for a couple events though, we end up taping them down so they don't blow away and they don't often survive the tape removal process :) | 16:43 |
| bsmartt` | cool I need to stop by dollar tree anyway, I'll see if I can find some there. | 16:44 |
| akk | They looked very festive, though -- the Ubuntu table was by far the best-looking table there. :) | 16:47 |
| bsmartt` | great, I RSVPed for picnix. I'll confirm in here when I get the orange tablecloths so you can scratch it off your list. | 16:58 |
| pleia2 | bsmartt`: is there any way you could get to the picnic a little early, say 10:30? tablecloths are a prerequisite for setting up the whole table so the tablecloth person has to be there first :) | 17:01 |
| bsmartt` | I plan to be there at 10:00am to help in whatever way possible setting up. As well as cleanup. | 17:01 |
| pleia2 | great! | 17:02 |
| bsmartt` | :) | 17:02 |
| * pleia2 has to drag her fiance and a visiting friend out of bed that morning, 10:30AM is hard | 17:02 | |
| pleia2 | we managed to do it last year though | 17:03 |
| bsmartt` | Why, I would imagine everyone is enthusiastic about waking up early on saturday to help set up a linux picnic. ;) </sarcasm> | 17:07 |
| rww | I wish I could go this year. It was fun last time I went :) | 17:41 |
| grantbow | bsmartt: thanks for showing up early. We know we need some help registering people during the initial rush. | 17:42 |
| akk | Me too -- it's a great event, and I wish I didn't have to be out of town. | 17:43 |
| jtatum | pleia2: might want to make sure the one in bzr matches the one on the server before merging rww's changes :) | 17:50 |
| pleia2 | jtatum: I did the MP on the server, everything is the same | 17:50 |
| jtatum | ok good deal | 17:51 |
| nhaines | Morning, jono! | 18:30 |
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| yantrashilpi | morning all. | 18:46 |
| grantbow | morning | 18:50 |
| yantrashilpi | how's it going grantbow? | 19:09 |
| === akk_ is now known as akk | ||
| rww | ugh, Windows is annoying me again. Maybe I should get rid of it and use lab computers for coursework | 21:46 |
| pleia2 | +1 | 21:46 |
| philipballew | what do you gotta do on windows? rww | 21:52 |
| rww | philipballew: I haven't started yet, so iono, but I got a strong impression that they expected people to be using Windows (except for the UNIX class I'm taking, obviously) | 21:58 |
| rww | (well, they call it UNIX. I'm betting money it's Linux :) | 21:59 |
| jyo | Might be some ancient Sun server. | 22:02 |
| sn9 | watch it be HP-UX | 22:27 |
| philipballew | a friend here bought a hp-ux laptop the other day for 10 bucks. its in this really nice rugid case sn9 | 22:30 |
| sn9 | linux it | 22:30 |
| philipballew | any distro recommendations? | 22:31 |
| rww | "really nice rugged case" here means "it's so heavy I can't pick it up so it can't be dropped" | 22:31 |
| rww | philipballew: Debian | 22:31 |
| sn9 | gentoo and debian are the only ones with installers afaik | 22:31 |
| philipballew | debian is somewhat more stable then gentoo usually | 22:32 |
| rww | (you want either the hppa or ia64 ports, depending on what processor's in it) | 22:34 |
| rww | (and if it's hppa, that port didn't make squeeze) | 22:35 |
| sn9 | :( | 22:35 |
| sn9 | gentoo is the only hppa distro now? :( | 22:35 |
| philipballew | rww, his plan is to get x running and take it to class with him. figures the reaction will be worth it in his opinion. hp-ux seems like it was a good system | 22:35 |
| philipballew | sn9, everything seems to be coming down to just a few these days. :( | 22:36 |
| akk | I didn't know there ever were laptops with HP-UX. | 22:37 |
| sn9 | nor did i | 22:37 |
| philipballew | it was at the good will for 10 bucks. | 22:38 |
| rww | allegedly OpenBSD and NetBSD are ported to it too | 22:38 |
| philipballew | uname - whatever letter it is said hp-ux | 22:38 |
| rww | and NEXTSTEP, but... NEXTSTEP. | 22:38 |
| akk | that's pretty cool, philipballew | 22:38 |
| philipballew | there is a hp plant near me. i figure that is where it came from akgraner` | 22:39 |
| philipballew | akk | 22:39 |
| philipballew | stupid x-chat! | 22:39 |
| philipballew | whats nextstep rww | 22:40 |
| rww | philipballew: a closed-source operating system from the '90s | 22:40 |
| philipballew | i get the feeling it didnt last | 22:41 |
| nhaines | Well, there's still OS X. | 22:41 |
| philipballew | osx is darwin though nhaines | 22:42 |
| akk | It took some of its UI and other code from nextstep. | 22:43 |
| akk | Though the UI ended up looking very different. | 22:43 |
| philipballew | ahh, damn apple | 22:43 |
| akk | Next was Steve Jobs' company. | 22:43 |
| akk | He brought a lot of Next people along when Apple took him back. | 22:44 |
| philipballew | akk, do you see apple as being on the rise still or on the decline? | 22:44 |
| akk | That's what he was doing while he wasn't at Apple. | 22:44 |
| philipballew | they've stoped pushing the ipod as strongly and thats what got them out there. | 22:45 |
| philipballew | akk, he also did pixar | 22:45 |
| akk | Rising now, but I think it will plummet when Jobs' health forces him to retire. And then after that, I have no prediction on whether it will recover or not. | 22:45 |
| akk | d thinks it will, I'm less convinced. | 22:45 |
| philipballew | at the college i go to macs are like 40 percent of laptops | 22:46 |
| rww | at open source conventions, macs are like 60 percent of laptops | 22:53 |
| rww | i find it mildly amusing | 22:53 |
| philipballew | rww, wonder if they're duel booting? | 22:55 |
| philipballew | what do you run? | 22:55 |
| rww | which distro, you mean? | 22:56 |
| jyo | I'm in the old NexT plant right now. | 22:56 |
| rww | Debian, unless I get bored and put Ubuntu or Fedora or Arch or HaikuOS, or... | 22:56 |
| philipballew | nice! i have ubuntu now, but also debian. I ment laptop rww though | 23:00 |
| rww | oh. I have a Dell Mini 10v, it works for when I need something portable | 23:00 |
| rww | not a huge fan of laptops, they don't last long enough | 23:01 |
| philipballew | nice. im thinking i need to look onto a netbook. | 23:01 |
| * philipballew wonders if their designed to not last long | 23:01 | |
| akk | Agreed, rww, there are a huge number of macs at opensource confs. Though fewer than there used to be. | 23:01 |
| rww | I get the impression most mass-produced computers don't last long these days. It's a bit harder to build your own laptop than your own desktop, though ;) | 23:02 |
| akk | More people are actually using linux laptops now. | 23:02 |
| rww | netbook is cheaper than laptop => I don't care as much when it inevitably breaks | 23:02 |
| philipballew | zareason is nice | 23:02 |
| akk | netbooks are great but intel's silly prohibitions on resolution for atom-based machines makes them not useful to me. | 23:03 |
| rww | yeah, 1024x600 takes some getting used to | 23:03 |
| akk | Wish they'd drop that and let people build intel-based 1366x768 netbooks. | 23:03 |
| philipballew | what exactly does intel do thats bad? | 23:03 |
| akk | zareason somehow gets around this but no one else does (and I can't deal with the keyboard on the zareason one). | 23:04 |
| philipballew | i have a laptop with i5. it is okay. but the 15 inch screen is hard to take to class everyday | 23:06 |
| rww | yeah, the other reason for the netbook is that I can take it places easier | 23:06 |
| akk | 15" laptops are way too heavy for my taste -- they make me not want to carry it around very long. | 23:07 |
| philipballew | i this summer rode my bike 5 miles a day with in strapped to my bike | 23:07 |
| akk | I love my 11.1" but I don't think anybody makes that size any more. | 23:08 |
| philipballew | the ubuntu pre installed asus's might be cool | 23:08 |
| philipballew | but i usually go dell for laptops | 23:09 |
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