[06:10] <sakhi> Morning
[06:23] <superfly> morning sakhi
[14:24]  * nlsthzn waves
[14:32] <tumbleweed> thoughts? http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/1169/detail/
[14:40] <marcog> also https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=144639592290501
[14:45] <nlsthzn> Capetown global jam spam :p
[15:18] <Kilos> afternoon all of ya
[15:18]  * Kilos waves
[15:20] <nlsthzn> Hey Uncle Kilos ... 
[15:20] <Kilos> leave the uncle nlsthzn  its too much to type
[15:21] <nlsthzn> Sure think Captain Kilos 
[15:21] <Kilos> hee hee hee you so cheeky
[15:21] <nlsthzn> Just because I am far ;) ...
[15:22] <Kilos> yeah
[15:22] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[15:22]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[15:22] <nlsthzn> Maaz, coke please
[15:22] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Go get it yourself!
[15:22] <nlsthzn> Maaz, diet coke please
[15:22] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Go get it yourself!
[15:22] <nlsthzn> :/
[15:23] <Kilos> lol you gotta learn to drink coffee nlsthzn 
[15:23]  * nlsthzn is on a LPI and Inkscape mission at the moment...
[15:23] <nlsthzn> I haven't found a coffee I like here
[15:24] <Kilos> the bots coffee is good it can be whatever you want
[15:24] <Kilos> or imagine
[15:26] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:26] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[15:26] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[15:30] <nlsthzn> I would rather have me a spot of tea
[15:30] <nlsthzn> pound for pound got more caffeine
[15:30] <Kilos> you can do ,that as well nlsthzn , i drink tea by the beermug full
[15:31] <nlsthzn> I do :p
[15:31] <nlsthzn> maybe too much...
[15:31] <Kilos> lol
[16:19] <pascal`> Hi
[16:20] <pascal`> Anyone had any experience getting OpenVPN working nicely?
[16:20] <Kilos> hi pascal` 
[16:21] <pascal`> Hi Kilos
[16:22] <pascal`> I'm struggling to access my machine over OpenVPN.
[16:22] <tumbleweed> yes, it works nicely
[16:22] <pascal`> I'm connected to the VPN, and I can resolve hostnames, but that's about it.
[16:23] <pascal`> I can't ping, ssh or connect to Samba shares
[16:23] <tumbleweed> are you sure you are connected? What's in your system log? What routes do you have?
[16:24] <pascal`> tumbleweed, I'm pretty sure I'm connected.
[16:24] <pascal`> I'll pastebin some stuff now
[16:28] <pascal`> tumbleweed, syslog: http://pastebin.com/AdiF76YH
[16:28] <pascal`> ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/AS76JR1P
[16:28] <pascal`> route: http://pastebin.com/LiDPL3tb
[16:29] <pascal`> I should probably also not that the VPN server is an instance of ClearOS.
[16:30] <pascal`> I installed the network manager plugin, exported the keys and config files from ClearOS and imported them using network manager.
[16:30] <tumbleweed> that looks reasonable, you have a route and theere was traffic on the interface
[16:30] <pascal`> To connect, I just click the icon in the title bar and choose VPN > My_VPN. It seems to connect fine, and does automatically update the routes to those in pastebin.
[16:31] <pascal`> tumbleweed, yes, that's why I'm pretty sure it's connect. Well, that and the fact that I can resolve hostnames on the remote LAN.
[16:32] <pascal`> ping and traceroute time out though ;'(
[16:32] <tumbleweed> do they get to the first hop?
[16:33] <tumbleweed> can you ping/traceroute to the dns server that you are using over the VPN?
[16:34] <pascal`> tumbleweed, let me see
[16:34] <tumbleweed> because it sounds like you chave connectivity to it
[16:34] <pascal`> I'm not sure if this is normal: Next Hop: 192.168.1.0
[16:35] <tumbleweed> no, I think it is
[16:35] <tumbleweed> although I have never played with network-manager's openvpn plugin, only ever used it outside nm
[16:35] <tumbleweed> (the nm plugin sounds great, if it's handling the DNS resolver issue for you)
[16:35] <pascal`> tumbleweed, I can ping and traceroute the DNS server (192.168.1.253)
[16:36] <tumbleweed> um, that isn't on the other side of your vpn
[16:36] <tumbleweed> that's local
[16:36] <tumbleweed> oh ignore me
[16:36] <pascal`> tumbleweed, no, that server is on the other side of the VPN
[16:36] <pascal`> tumbleweed, my local network is 192.168.ZERO.*
[16:36] <tumbleweed> I missed the screaming obvious
[16:37] <tumbleweed> your local network is 192.168.0.0 and so is the remote
[16:37] <tumbleweed> don't do that
[16:37] <pascal`> tumbleweed, tracerouting to another machine on the "other side" of the VPN hangs like this: http://pastebin.com/VYp8rxQC
[16:37] <pascal`> tumbleweed, no, local is 192.168.0 and remote is 192.168.1
[16:38] <tumbleweed> what's wrong with me today?
[16:38] <tumbleweed> should I just shut up? :)
[16:38] <pascal`> tumbleweed, no please, I need some help, I'm stumped :)
[16:38] <tumbleweed> I was only seeing the 10.X and assuming that was all there was to the one side
[16:38]  * tumbleweed re-reads it all
[16:39] <tumbleweed> (I was joking, but clearly, I'm not paying enough attention)
[16:39] <pascal`> (I know :))
[16:40] <tumbleweed> you can ping 10.8.0.13 ?
[16:40] <pascal`> tumbleweed, no
[16:41] <tumbleweed> how about 10.8.0.1?
[16:41] <pascal`> tumbleweed, yes
[16:42] <tumbleweed> how about making the route for 192.168.1.0 be via 10.8.0.1 rather than 10.8.0.13?
[16:42] <tumbleweed> does that help?
[16:43] <pascal`> tumbleweed, do you know the command for that off the top of your head? Because otherwise I'm going to have to look it up.
[16:43] <tumbleweed> route del 192.168.1.0
[16:43] <tumbleweed> route add -net 192.168.1.0/24 gw 10.8.0.13
[16:44] <tumbleweed> err route might not be able to do cidr I can't remember
[16:44] <pascal`> I don't know what that means
[16:44]  * pascal` hangs head in shame
[16:45] <pascal`> SIOCDELRT: No such process
[16:45] <pascal`> o_O
[16:45] <pascal`> That happens when I try and do the route del
[16:46] <Kilos> hehe got an invite to gmail
[16:46] <pascal`> (=
[16:46] <Kilos> afrodeity playing again
[16:46] <Tonberry>  aiai
[16:46] <Kilos> hiya Tonberry 
[16:47] <tumbleweed> pascal`: try route del -net 192.168.1.0/24
[16:47] <tumbleweed> CIDR means /24 rather than "netmask 255.255.255.0"
[16:47] <pascal`> oic
[16:47] <tumbleweed> well it means other things too...
[16:48] <pascal`> route: netmask 000000ff doesn't make sense with host route
[16:48] <pascal`> oh wait
[16:48] <nlsthzn> lol @ gmail invite... who wants a G+ invite :p
[16:48] <pascal`> left out the -net
[16:50] <pascal`> tumbleweed, no luck, even with the new route :(
[16:51] <tumbleweed> pascal`: I need to go home (and am beyond trying to debug this over IRC). I suggest sshing into the server and tcpdumpin gto see what's going on
[16:53] <pascal`> tumbleweed, cool, thanks
[17:26] <Barco> Hi Guys, can anyone assist with Internet setup on Edubuntu, I've setup the gateway but am running an LTSP setup  - ifconfig output here http://pastebin.com/abPbqLXu  
[17:27] <Barco> #ubuntu -j
[17:27] <Barco> #ubuntu /j
[18:20] <Kilos> night all. sleep warm