| Daskreech | Riddell: Nice. Not a bug but an actual e-mails? | 00:10 |
|---|---|---|
| Riddell | yes | 00:10 |
| valorie | sign him up! obviously we need Turks on the team | 00:13 |
| * Daskreech hugs valorie | 00:22 | |
| Daskreech | Riddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279897 | 00:22 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 279897 in kcm_clock "Wrong flag listed in Timezone tab for Kigali Africa/Rwanda " [Minor,Unconfirmed] | 00:22 |
| yofel | ok, even with the pyqt updates the printer applet still crashes. At least oxygen-gtk works again | 00:44 |
| JontheEchidna | asynchronous image loader in QML: http://i.imgur.com/0GuGy.png (My first thing in QML) | 00:55 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Can't the activators fix go in for 4.7.1? | 00:58 |
| yofel | ScottK: that's cherry picked from 4.7.1 | 01:04 |
| ScottK | Ah. OK. | 01:04 |
| ScottK | Any idea when that comes out? | 01:05 |
| yofel | tagging was sep. 1st | 01:05 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 01:10 |
| JontheEchidna | ulmlogger: I am completely on the QML bandwagon | 01:14 |
| JontheEchidna | I would like a flying bus plz | 01:14 |
| JontheEchidna | ulmlogger: I can asychronously grab an image across the network and fade it in for 500ms in 43 lines of QML <3 | 02:08 |
| valorie | {{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}} to Daskreech | 02:20 |
| === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech | ||
| bambee | morning | 08:06 |
| ulmlogger | JontheEchidna: 43? dude, you need to learn how to write readable qml :P | 08:18 |
| Quintasan | Morning | 08:46 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: You shittin me with this? QML Magic | 08:47 |
| Quintasan | wtf | 08:49 |
| Quintasan | yofel: The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 08:50 |
| Quintasan | libakonadi-dev : Depends: libboost-dev but it is not going to be installed | 08:50 |
| Quintasan | workspace | 08:50 |
| Quintasan | wtf | 08:50 |
| Quintasan | >oneiric | 08:51 |
| Quintasan | FFFFFFFFUUUUUU- | 08:51 |
| * Quintasan gets system lockups when copying data to usb thumb | 09:11 | |
| Quintasan | this is preposterous | 09:11 |
| Quintasan | http://paste.kde.org/112111 | 09:11 |
| Quintasan | ollololololo | 09:11 |
| nigelb | Quintasan: sounds like fun :p | 09:18 |
| bambee | interesting: http://lamarque-lvs.blogspot.com/2011/08/wireless-sharing-with-plasma-nm-09-part.html | 10:09 |
| bambee | ulmlogger: ping? | 10:43 |
| * bambee takes his magic stick and pokes ulmlogger | 10:45 | |
| KRF | ulmlogger: is that kubuntu-active PPA supposed to work on exopc? | 11:16 |
| ulmlogger | KRF: haven't tried it, but yes | 11:25 |
| KRF | cool | 11:25 |
| KRF | will try in a minute, meego (even the latest version) is making me totally crazy | 11:25 |
| JontheEchidna | ulmlogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/670858/ | 12:17 |
| JontheEchidna | I had also included main.qml in my count, adding another 12 :P | 12:18 |
| KRF | ulmlogger: oki, kubuntu-active PPA doesnt really work for me | 12:28 |
| KRF | or i dont start it properly | 12:29 |
| === bcooksley is now known as bcooksley-away | ||
| KRF | well, it *basically* seems to work but crashes oftenly. loads of missing QML modules warnings. at least it's something ;). looks promising | 12:34 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Did you solve your akonadi-dev problem? | 14:02 |
| bambee | Can one of the kubuntu devs/motu could upload touchegg into archives, please? | 14:24 |
| mfraz74 | any ideas why epiphany, evince and the gnome & humanity icon themes are installed by default? | 14:43 |
| mfraz74 | ah Firefox looks all KDE again:) | 14:45 |
| === tazz_ is now known as tazz | ||
| ScottK | Sigh. | 15:12 |
| ScottK | k3b needs libqtwebkit-dev added to build-depends, but then once I did that I ran smack into a wall of 'needs ported for libav0.7' errors. | 15:13 |
| === ulmlogger is now known as transitlogger | ||
| shadeslayer | ZOMG | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: PING | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: HP Touchpad for 99 USD | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | thats like ... elcheapo | 15:42 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Can you look at kalzium and figure out why it FTBFS in the rebuild test? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20110816/+build/2697477/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.kalzium_4%3A4.7.0-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 15:42 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: i can try | 15:42 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Thanks. | 15:42 |
| shadeslayer | lol wat : make[4]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libQtOpenGL.so', needed by `lib/libcompoundviewer.so.4.7.0'. Stop. | 15:43 |
| * shadeslayer is really tempted to buy a touchpad | 15:44 | |
| jussi | shadeslayer: where is this supercheap tablet | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: http://h41112.www4.hp.com/promo/webos/us/en/shopping-touchpad.html | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: only problem being .... how do i get it delivered to me -.- | 15:45 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: didn't you get a meego? | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: no | 15:46 |
| nigelb | oh. | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | i didn't attend the app up event | 15:46 |
| nigelb | lolfail. | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | not really, the exoPC is quite crappy, and isn't a ARM tablet | 15:47 |
| nigelb | free tablet is good tablet. | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | uh, no | 15:47 |
| nigelb | justsaying y'know ;) | 15:47 |
| mfraz74 | yofel: does firefox look ok your end now? | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 15:47 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Might be missing build-dep then. | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: yeah, building it again right now | 15:50 |
| ScottK | great. | 15:50 |
| mfraz74 | is epiphany installed by default? | 15:51 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: try clicking the buy button there... | 15:52 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | "Out of stock" | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: btw it has libqtopengl-dev | 15:57 |
| ScottK | Weird. | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | /usr/lib/libQtOpenGL.so: No such file or directory ... great | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | !find libQtOpenGL.so | 16:00 |
| ubottu | File libQtOpenGL.so found in ia32-libs, libqt4-dbg, libqt4-opengl, libqt4-opengl-dev | 16:00 |
| shadeslayer | uh .... 0.o | 16:00 |
| shadeslayer | ah ... its probably matching a regex ... | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | right, so we have libqt4-opengl-dev: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtOpenGL.so .... | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | multiarch-- | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: no idea how to fix0r this .... i have 0 experience in multiarch | 16:02 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Ask slangasek for help. | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | alright | 16:03 |
| debfx | maybe it's another case of a cmake library that hardcodes the path of its dependency libs | 16:06 |
| debfx | we really ought to fix that | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: i don't think so, the pc file says : libdir=${prefix}/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu | 16:08 |
| shadeslayer | /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/QtOpenGL.pc i mean | 16:08 |
| mfraz74 | any idea why I have "window behavior" and "workspace behavior" in system settings when my language is set as english GB? | 16:09 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: most of the time cmake projects use find_package() which isn't pkg-config | 16:11 |
| debfx | libavogadro-dev contains a lot of invalid paths in /usr/lib/avogadro/1_0/AvogadroLibraryDeps.cmake | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: right, but libqt-opengl-dev does not have a .cmake file | 16:13 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: cmake stores the path of libraries that the lib links to | 16:14 |
| debfx | so cmake stores the information that avogadro has been linked to /usr/lib/libQtOpenGL.so | 16:15 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: something like : QT_QTOPENGL_LIBRARY_RELEASE:FILEPATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtOpenGL.so in CMakeCache.txt ? | 16:16 |
| debfx | no, that's just a local cache | 16:17 |
| debfx | look at /usr/lib/avogadro/1_0/AvogadroLibraryDeps.cmake | 16:18 |
| debfx | or /usr/share/qzeitgeist/cmake/QZeitgeistExport-noconfig.cmake | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 16:20 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: WHERE? | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: out of stock | 16:24 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | i pasted the link before | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: http://h41112.www4.hp.com/promo/webos/us/en/shopping-touchpad.html | 16:24 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Can we remove this shitty default OS from it? | 16:25 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: from what i've read on the wiki and talked to other people, it is possible | 16:25 |
| Quintasan | 300 polish zloty | 16:25 |
| Quintasan | I can really afford this | 16:26 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 16:26 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Bootie | 16:26 |
| Quintasan | Y U OUT OF STOCK WHEN I HAS MONEYZ? | 16:27 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: how do you plan to get it delivered? | 16:27 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Can't they send it to me? | 16:28 |
| shadeslayer | uh .. they won't ship it outside the US i think | 16:28 |
| Quintasan | pff | 16:28 |
| Quintasan | Ask ScottK or JontheEchidna? | 16:28 |
| Quintasan | I'm pretty sure they could buy it if you sent em monies | 16:28 |
| shadeslayer | you might want to checkout the Polish HP Site | 16:28 |
| shadeslayer | sure, but then shipping it to Poland/India will be as expensive as buying the tablet | 16:29 |
| Quintasan | >implying Polish HP won't charge me like 1500+ zł | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | have a look, who knows what prices they have | 16:29 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Shipping to Poland? like 20$ | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | wat | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | O_O | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: are you sure? | 16:29 |
| Quintasan | Even if it's like 100 Polish zloty for shipping I dont care | 16:30 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: They do not even offer TouchPad in Poland | 16:31 |
| Quintasan | in UK | 16:32 |
| Quintasan | 350 pounds for 16GB | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | lul | 16:32 |
| Quintasan | 1600 polish zloty | 16:32 |
| Quintasan | sup | 16:32 |
| Quintasan | Why the hell it is so cheap over there in US? | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | they're shutting down the Tablet/Mobile department i think | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | and they want to get rid of the stock | 16:34 |
| Quintasan | The price between UK and US is 4 times different | 16:35 |
| mfraz74 | is there going to be a newer version of Choqok for 11.10 as I'm getting errors when updating friends? | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: debfx well ... build can be fixed by adding /x86_64-linux-gnu/ to library paths | 16:39 |
| shadeslayer | but for some reason, i now have /usr/bin/kalzium in debian/tmp/usr/local/bin/kalzium | 16:42 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: ping | 16:46 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, ping | 17:11 |
| Quintasan | pongo | 17:11 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: ^ | 17:11 |
| === transitlogger is now known as apachelogger | ||
| rbelem | Quintasan, how's kdelibs and runtime active are going? | 17:12 |
| Quintasan | runtime? ask shadeslayer | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | well then | 17:12 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, do i have to do something? | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | will look at runtime in like another day | 17:12 |
| Quintasan | ScottK and apachelogger were not comfortable with uploading them like that | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | I got me a beer | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | I am home | 17:12 |
| Quintasan | libs? I have no idea | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | and I am tired | 17:12 |
| Quintasan | ask ScottK | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | what needs doing? | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | i feel like kicking the shit out of IPC | 17:12 |
| Quintasan | I think only he can upload stuff now | 17:12 |
| rbelem | ScottK, ping | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | broken shitz i tell you | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: oh btw about the loading a KCM dialog | 17:13 |
| rbelem | shadeslayer, is it broken? | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: everyone can upload, but it needs to meet feature freeze criteria :P | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i'm using KSettings::Dialog and then calling addModule | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | rbelem: IPC? yes | 17:13 |
| rbelem | shadeslayer, ah ok | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | DBus queries are timing out | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | ah i think glib has gone kaput | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: depend on what you do that sounds rather fugly | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: its like ...4 lines of code :P | 17:16 |
| shadeslayer | bbiab | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: Quintasan: what is the status of active? | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: libs need upload | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | workspace needs changes | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | s-l-c needs new libs | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | and plasma-mobile is onhold for s-l-c | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | why does workspace need changes? | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | wait | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | not workspace | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | runtime | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | plus | 17:20 |
| apachelogger | I thought you did runtime? | 17:21 |
| Quintasan | you were supposed to fix some sort of kcm patch in workspace apachelogger | 17:21 |
| Quintasan | Let me tell you | 17:21 |
| Quintasan | I did | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | that is on my todo | 17:21 |
| Quintasan | LIBS and KWin GLES, review of s-l-c, touchegg and plasma-mobile | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | actually let me put it on the status.ubuntu thing just to be sure :P | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/112357/ | 17:21 |
| Quintasan | I'm merging kwin-gles workspace branch | 17:22 |
| * apachelogger finds tray apps with configs funny | 17:23 | |
| apachelogger | sheytan: can haz graphics? | 17:24 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: will do finishing now | 17:25 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Libs is fine, I think. It's -runtime I'm officially scared of at the moment. | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | did anyone give kubuntu low fat a try? | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: Libs adds two new interfaces, also not the best of patches | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | well, not the best of patches because of the new interfaces :P | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | other than that they are fine ^^ | 17:29 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: You should ask laserjock. | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | is never is the around when I am | 17:30 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Since the new interfaces are in separate binaries and we moved the headers around into a separate -dev, I think libs is OK. | 17:30 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: and workspace? | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | ok | 17:31 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Workspace is fine too. | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: out of interst: why not move the headers and libs into one package? | 17:31 |
| apachelogger | I do not think the split there gives much gain | 17:31 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: We could, but then end users have them installed for no point. | 17:31 |
| * ScottK would prefer the less of this stuff gets installed the better. | 17:32 | |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Can I merge and upload workspace right away? | 17:32 |
| * Quintasan doesn't want to wait for apachelogger | 17:32 | |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Yes. | 17:32 |
| Quintasan | or let me rephrase that | 17:32 |
| Quintasan | I want to have it off my mid | 17:33 |
| Quintasan | mind* | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: the enduser = tablet/mobile of which both are not particularly end user ready systems | 17:34 |
| ScottK | True. | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: why would you not upload right away? | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | my changes are actually not even in workspace | 17:34 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I'm OK either way. I like the way it is better, but the main thing is to keep the headers out of kdelibs5-dev. | 17:34 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: I see. | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | (since the kdm kcm uses polkit nowadays) | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: agreed | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: upload libs too while you are at it :P | 17:35 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: can one button work as: if playing a file then one click will bring you to the home screen and double will bring the dvd menu? | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | KRF: qml dep tracing is not exactly easy business ^^ | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | thoguh we could actually do it as there are only two paths in which a qml import could be placed (qt4 or kde4) | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: that is UX fail right there | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | the double clicking behavior to go to dvd menu is neither obvious nor understandible since it goes to home on one click | 17:37 |
| * Quintasan upload workspace | 17:38 | |
| apachelogger | Quintasan, ScottK: so what is the plan for runtime? | 17:38 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I think the plan was Quintasan would use his vast experise in double builds to make a different runtime package will all the new crap in it. | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | sounds like a plan | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | oh great | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | me tablet is broken | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | I shall communicate my appreciation of the qdbus breakage :P | 17:39 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: I thought I'd delegate that to shadeslayer so someone apart from me has the knowledge how to do this | 17:40 |
| * sheytan is cutting images for apachelogger | 17:40 | |
| ScottK | Quintasan: What do you consider the odds of success for this plan? | 17:40 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Just install qt-dev-tools or wherever we stashed it (whatever I said on kubuntu-devel). | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: no time till monday | 17:41 |
| ScottK | armel builds of Qt take approximately forever these days. | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | mentor delegated some last minute stuff | 17:41 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: You are apparently after exams | 17:41 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: that implies that I know how to go on wifi nowadays | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | tablets with eth port are rather rare | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | DBus decided to crap out at the last minute as well | 17:42 |
| * apachelogger installs the not broken version | 17:42 | |
| apachelogger | KRF: ping | 17:42 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Can this wait until monday? | 17:42 |
| * Quintasan is not entirely able to do this today either | 17:43 | |
| * apachelogger points out that he wanted this done yesterday | 17:43 | |
| apachelogger | also | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | delegating stuff to shadeslayer never works out | 17:43 |
| shadeslayer | true ^^ | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | oh this is gonna be fun | 17:44 |
| Quintasan | Well, some people in my house are superior forces. | 17:44 |
| apachelogger | entering wifi password with broken plasma keyboard -.- | 17:44 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Probably that would be pushing it. | 17:44 |
| KRF | apachelogger: pongie | 17:44 |
| * KRF currently cooking | 17:44 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: dude | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: use kvbd | 17:44 |
| apachelogger | KRF: fancy fixing plasma-tablet's default wallpaper | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | or something like that | 17:44 |
| apachelogger | KRF: nuno and I concluded that the green thing looks like a swamp | 17:44 |
| Quintasan | make[2]: warning: jobserver unavailable: using -j1. Add `+' to parent make rule. | 17:44 |
| Quintasan | dh_auto_build | 17:44 |
| Quintasan | cd obj-x86_64-linux-gnu | 17:44 |
| Quintasan | make -j1 | 17:44 |
| apachelogger | + it actually is brand polution | 17:44 |
| Quintasan | oneiric pbuilder are borken | 17:44 |
| Quintasan | /topic | 17:44 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: ping | 17:46 |
| apachelogger | is it just me or is oneiric stuff constantly broken? | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: btw i'm not entirely sure i understand what i have to do | 17:46 |
| Quintasan | Almost exactly the same thing I did with workspace | 17:46 |
| KRF | apachelogger: mh, not particularly interested, sorry :P | 17:46 |
| Quintasan | double build everything to install a few files | 17:46 |
| apachelogger | KRF: meh :P | 17:47 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Care to explain the details? | 17:47 |
| apachelogger | no motivation to make broken UX less broken | 17:47 |
| KRF | apachelogger: just use the same as for plasma-desktop? | 17:47 |
| ScottK | Beta freeze coming up. | 17:47 |
| apachelogger | KRF: yeah | 17:47 |
| apachelogger | though I find it crappy for tablet anyway | 17:47 |
| apachelogger | just that I'd rather have crap and not a crap swamp | 17:47 |
| KRF | +1 | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | KRF, Quintasan: what is the ppa with active stuff? | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: can you poke some canonical people so we get a flipping arm ppa? :. | 17:49 |
| apachelogger | :/ | 17:49 |
| Quintasan | ppa:kubuntu-active/ppa | 17:49 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: arm boxen should have working ice creaming again. | 17:49 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: http://www.sendspace.com/file/fa84w1 | 17:49 |
| * Quintasan testbuilds workspace and uploads | 17:50 | |
| apachelogger | ScottK: that does not help with distribution and access though :S | 17:50 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: can haz screenshot so I know where this is supposed to go? | 17:50 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, pong | 17:51 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: sure | 17:51 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: True, but we can give other kubuntu-dev access. Dunno if they all have it currently. | 17:51 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: ^ there you read | 17:51 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Can you modify workspace packaging? | 17:51 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: still in terms of testing ppa would be better IMHO | 17:52 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: What are you talking about? | 17:52 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, yup :-) what should i do? | 17:52 |
| ScottK | Agreed, but there's not much I can do about Canonical and PPAs. | 17:52 |
| Quintasan | I got ARM box access right after getting into kubuntu-dev | 17:52 |
| Quintasan | I used it once or twice | 17:52 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5852/dragonplayer3uimockup.jpg | 17:52 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: You need to do a double build of workspace to install some files | 17:53 |
| Quintasan | ScottK could explain in detail as I forgot | 17:53 |
| rbelem | oki | 17:53 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: examples of double building are kde-workspace and quassel | 17:53 |
| Quintasan | most magic happens in debian/rules | 17:53 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: You'll need to provide more help than that. | 17:53 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: there is buttons I do not unstand in that picture | 17:54 |
| rbelem | :-D | 17:54 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: I would appreciate it as I'm currently forced to move $stuff around the house | 17:54 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: like? | 17:54 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: About double-building? | 17:54 |
| ScottK | And about how to achieve the desired differences between the two builds. | 17:54 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: I do not think so but I'll be happy to answer any of rbelem's questions (should he have any) | 17:54 |
| ScottK | OK | 17:55 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, which branch should i get? | 17:55 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Oh you mean about the patching? I have a few ways in mind but I was wondering what would be the best approach | 17:55 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: do you have kubuntu-dev-tools from bzr? | 17:56 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, yup | 17:56 |
| Quintasan | kbzr branch kde-runtime | 17:56 |
| Quintasan | I merged most of the stuff and ScottK is scared of the activitymanager patch(right?) | 17:56 |
| ScottK | Yep. | 17:57 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: About patching | 17:57 |
| ScottK | Want to build a separate -active binary with that patch. | 17:57 |
| Quintasan | I thought of doing it like that | 17:57 |
| Quintasan | add the patch to debian/patches but not to debian/patches/series | 17:57 |
| Quintasan | do the normal build | 17:57 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: http://i.imgur.com/E8K1q.jpg | 17:57 |
| Quintasan | in rules append the patch name to series and do the second build | 17:57 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, nice :-) | 17:58 |
| Quintasan | It's a dirty approach but I see no point in overriding everything to add single patch | 17:58 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i will do that | 17:58 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: that's what tooltips are for | 17:58 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: I want ScottK's thoughts on that approach | 17:58 |
| sheytan | first button: dvd menu, next 'go home', fullscreen, settings | 17:58 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, should i do that for all kbutun-active patches? | 17:59 |
| sheytan | the speaker icon is for mute on click | 17:59 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: that is rubbish TBH | 17:59 |
| sheytan | next to it is volume slider | 17:59 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, or just one of them? | 17:59 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Sounds reasonable. | 17:59 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, kbzr does not exists in kubuntu-dev-tools | 18:00 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: It's a single patch that worrries ScottK (I think) but IMO doing a second build with our usual patches + active patches is the best approach | 18:00 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: bzr branch lp:kubuntu-dev-tools | 18:00 |
| ScottK | Depends on what the patches touch. | 18:00 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: sudo ruby setup.rb | 18:00 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, oki | 18:00 |
| rbelem | ScottK, mostly experimental stuff | 18:01 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: then you can use kbzr branch kde-runtime | 18:01 |
| Quintasan | normal command would be | 18:01 |
| ScottK | Right. It's the places where it touches non-experimental stuff I get scared. | 18:01 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: if you once hit a button you will learn what it's for. Other case, all icons would need to be done with text like "THIS BUTTON IS FOR SETTINGS". | 18:01 |
| rbelem | ScottK, oki :-) | 18:01 |
| Quintasan | bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime | 18:02 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: ^ kbzr is a nice wrapper around bzr :P | 18:02 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: How many active patches does runtime has? | 18:02 |
| Quintasan | have* | 18:02 |
| * rbelem looks | 18:03 | |
| rbelem | Quintasan, six pathces | 18:03 |
| Quintasan | Hmm | 18:03 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: I just asked my mother what the UI does, she only got the settings button and the volume slider right | 18:04 |
| apachelogger | that is not good ui design | 18:04 |
| Quintasan | Then you'll have to append those six patch names to debian/patches/series in rules before second build | 18:04 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: ^ | 18:04 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: well, ask Nuno for new buttons. I'm not feeling good in icons | 18:05 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, oki | 18:05 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Or wait. Don't do anything for now | 18:06 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: opening a file can look like the recently played thing. In setting user can set a path to all his movies. Like amarok does for music, what ya think? | 18:06 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, hum? | 18:06 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: There is a one patch that is problematic or the changes introduced by the whole set of active patches is problematic? | 18:07 |
| yofel | re | 18:07 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: It was a lot of changes in the activitymanager that got me scared. I will confess I got a bit overwhelmed at that point. | 18:07 |
| Quintasan | So the whole set is problematic | 18:08 |
| Quintasan | I see | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: dragon does not maintain a collection | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: general thought: why crank all the stuff in the controls panel? | 18:08 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: it can? | 18:08 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: what do you mean crank? | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | have everything in there | 18:09 |
| apachelogger | a window has four edges, only one of them has a visual item, and within that visual item is all the stuff you need, or might actually not need | 18:09 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: the controller bg is for it | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | plus currently it does not cover the list I sent you some time ago | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | subtitle selection | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | audio channel selection | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | aspect ratio selection | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | ... | 18:10 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: working on it | 18:10 |
| sheytan | i don't want that right on the ui | 18:10 |
| sheytan | it must be in settings dialog | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | that is fundamentally wrong | 18:11 |
| apachelogger | it is not a setting | 18:11 |
| apachelogger | it is a selection | 18:11 |
| sheytan | i will come out with it. Give me the chance | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | well, without a concept for those the UI seems utterly unusable to me :( | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | ScottK, Quintasan: about the branding, since plasma active is more of an effort than a product I am not sure kubuntu active would be a good name really | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | plus it is not really descriptive :P | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | markey: maybe you have a good idea for cool name? | 18:15 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: We already did this for mobile in similar circumstances. | 18:17 |
| ScottK | I think it's good as long as we stamp enough warnings on it. | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: I mean, it is a rather silly name | 18:18 |
| sheytan | apachelogger http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3034/dragonplayer3firstrun.jpg | 18:18 |
| sheytan | http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/33/dragonplayer3recent.jpg | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: why no icons? | 18:19 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: more elegant. Too many blink blink with icons i guess ;D | 18:19 |
| sheytan | or too much | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | looks like a website ^^ | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | haha | 18:19 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: send me them pictures | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | so we can test | 18:20 |
| sheytan | sure | 18:20 |
| * sheytan can haz demo? | 18:20 | |
| apachelogger | also I'll try to get you PPA buids of phonon so you can test yourself | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: do you haz phonon phonon-gst and phonon-vlc git imports? | 18:20 |
| Quintasan | I think we don't | 18:21 |
| Quintasan | yofel: ^^ | 18:21 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: http://i.imgur.com/8Lo9D.png | 18:21 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: You want it done like this? | 18:22 |
| ScottK | Yes | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: also I'll need the reflection thing from the recently viewed video snapshots | 18:22 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: http://www.sendspace.com/file/7q6p9w | 18:22 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Awesome | 18:22 |
| yofel | apachelogger: phonon-gst and phonon-vlc are imported on LP | 18:22 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Makes sense? | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | I do not think I can do that in qml right now | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | well | 18:22 |
| Quintasan | So rbelem | 18:22 |
| Quintasan | As you do have SIX patches | 18:22 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: forget the reflection | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | yofel: could be so kind as to get imports for the qml branches on those three repos too | 18:22 |
| Quintasan | Appending six names in rules is a stupid idea | 18:22 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: as you noticed, in recently view the 'play' buttons are a bit lower then on first run. Please make them go those few pixels down with a nice animation :) | 18:23 |
| yofel | apachelogger: until https://code.launchpad.net/~jelmer/launchpad/import-colocated-branches/+merge/72127 is merged we can't import anything but git master | 18:24 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Instead there is a neat variable for quilt named QUILT_SERIES which as you can guess tells quilt which series file to use. Now what I would do is to remove active patches from debian/series; cp debian/series debian/series-active ; append the active patches names to debian/series-active and tell quilt to use series-active on the other build with QUILT_SERIES="series-active" | 18:25 |
| sheytan | apachelogger: i'm afk for few minutes. PIng me with demo please :) | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: you do not see any animations there | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: thats merged, its waiting for deployment on Production Servers | 18:25 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: no, approved, but not merged | 18:25 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Too me? It does, if active-related change are that scary then it only makes sens to do a second build and provide normal and experimental libs | 18:26 |
| Quintasan | to* | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: there is a bit of a problem with the backgorund | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | eh | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: what if the window is bigger than the bg? what if it smaller? what if it has a different aspect ratio? | 18:30 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, awesome :-D | 18:31 |
| * rbelem was updating the patches | 18:33 | |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Let me know if you have some problems | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | yofel: it makes me smile | 18:44 |
| jjesse-netbook | DarkwingDuck: you around? | 19:11 |
| afiestas | rbelem: screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeensh0t | 19:22 |
| jjesse-netbook | in oneric using the netbook edition (or whatever it is called these days) krunner doesnt seem to start for me until i call it | 19:43 |
| jjesse-netbook | is krunner no longer being used? | 19:43 |
| mfraz74 | what do you mean by call it? | 19:44 |
| * Quintasan looks at Tribe and wants that in Kubuntu | 19:46 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ping ping | 19:52 |
| jjesse-netbook | mfraz74: means i have to launch it through konsole before alt f2 works | 19:53 |
| jjesse-netbook | really miss it | 19:53 |
| mfraz74 | jjesse-netbook: oh | 19:54 |
| mfraz74 | jjesse-netbook: i disable the netbook plasma as soon as I install on a netbook | 19:54 |
| jjesse-netbook | ah i actually like it :) | 19:54 |
| mfraz74 | i might be using it on netbooks that are too slow, but it seems to take ages to display | 19:55 |
| mfraz74 | i meant workspace and not plasma | 19:55 |
| mfraz74 | any ideas why programs stay in the task manager after i have closed them down? | 20:02 |
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| DarkwingDuck | jjesse-netbook: You still there? | 20:36 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: poke | 20:36 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 20:37 |
| shadeslayer | nvm | 20:37 |
| * shadeslayer just discovered sender in Signals and Slots | 20:38 | |
| shadeslayer | shit just got interesting :> | 20:38 |
| afiestas | xd | 20:40 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse-netbook: ping me when you get back... have a couple things to chat at ya about. | 20:41 |
| ScottK | jjesse-netbook: Try just using the embedded runner in search and launch. | 20:41 |
| shadeslayer | aw | 20:41 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: i'll have to cast my sender() QObject into a KAction? | 20:41 |
| DarkwingDuck | ScottK: Quick server (oneiric) question for ya | 20:41 |
| shadeslayer | to get any info out of it | 20:41 |
| ScottK | Shoot | 20:41 |
| DarkwingDuck | ScottK: I'm getting blank screen after GRUB. However, if I boot into recovery then click resume normal boot. It works. | 20:42 |
| ScottK | You didn't do anything silly like remove plymouth did you? | 20:42 |
| DarkwingDuck | Nope. | 20:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | Ahhhh, splash. | 20:43 |
| mfraz74 | is that a duck splashing away? | 20:43 |
| ScottK | nosplash probably doesn't do what you think it does anymore. | 20:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | I was trying to figure out what was different between the two boot sequences were. | 20:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | Well no. I didn't change anything. | 20:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'll try reinstalling plymouth | 20:44 |
| DarkwingDuck | and see if that helps anything. | 20:44 |
| afiestas | shadeslayer: yes | 20:44 |
| afiestas | qobject_cast should do the trick | 20:44 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: hmm .. everything looks fine but none of my slots are activated when i trigger them | 20:45 |
| shadeslayer | No such slot KStatusNotifierItem::startSync(Qt::MouseButtons,Qt::KeyboardModifiers) | 20:45 |
| JontheEchidna | http://i.imgur.com/HBmwG.png | 20:47 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: https://gist.github.com/7af916895bdea2f9bc40 | 20:47 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: naice | 20:48 |
| bambee | shadeslayer: missing Q_OBJECT macro in the class definitioN? | 20:52 |
| bambee | "The Q_OBJECT macro must appear in the private section of a class definition that declares its own signals and slots[...]" | 20:52 |
| shadeslayer | ffffuuuuuuu | 20:52 |
| shadeslayer | how did that get removed | 20:52 |
| shadeslayer | bambee: the one last thing being my KSNI gets deleted after i trigger load the KCM module | 20:54 |
| shadeslayer | and then press cancel | 20:54 |
| bambee | KSNI? wtf? | 20:56 |
| JontheEchidna | doh: https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com//browse/QTBUG-9337 | 20:56 |
| shadeslayer | bambee: KStatusNotifierItem | 20:57 |
| shadeslayer | they deprecated KSystemTrayIcon | 20:57 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 21:02 |
| bambee | shadeslayer: ahhh... I see | 21:04 |
| shadeslayer | bambee: i just used KProcess | 21:05 |
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| rbelem | afiestas, no screenshots yet :'( | 21:11 |
| yofel | apachelogger: is there no way to check if there's something connected to a HDMI port? Because some updates set my default phonon device to my HDMI (displayport) device without anything being actually plugged in there. | 22:53 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: same thing happened to me | 22:54 |
| shadeslayer | and my flash has no sound :( | 22:54 |
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| sheytan | apachelogger: you will get fixed background soon, don't worry about aspect ratio nor resolution | 23:27 |
| JontheEchidna | In all of its shiny glory: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=muon.git&a=commit&h=244923c94f18ba0aa83b7eb56d225de2e93fdf66 | 23:42 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: I lifted your MouseCursor class btw. There really should be a common way for QML apps to do that in the future, imo | 23:45 |
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