| marge_simpson | Hi, where do I put an app to start automatically when I login, please? | 00:06 |
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| marge_simpson | Wakey, wakey, hands off snakey! Anybody there? | 00:11 |
| maxpolk | marge_simpson: menu | Preferences | Desktop Session Settings | 00:15 |
| maxpolk | If it's not there, try http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Autostart | 00:17 |
| Unit193 | marge_simpson: The Lubuntu FAQs can be found at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ and should provide you with the info you need | 00:18 |
| marge_simpson | Thanks folks (had to answer Nature's call there...) BFN | 00:22 |
| phillw | marge_simpson: read the topic next time, much easier :D | 00:24 |
| KM0201 | why is it, i can find a samba connection in pyneighborhood,and connect to it, but i can't see it in "network paces" on PCmanFM | 00:30 |
| KM0201 | phillw: any ideas? | 00:33 |
| phillw | KM0201: pyneighboorhood was dropped as it did not work. | 00:34 |
| phillw | pcmanfm can quite happily handle samba | 00:34 |
| KM0201 | phillw: well, strangely, it works fine, but pcman can't even see it | 00:34 |
| KM0201 | thus my problem | 00:34 |
| KM0201 | wait, i think i figured out the problem | 00:35 |
| KM0201 | yeah, i ddi. | 00:35 |
| phillw | KM0201: have you got the up to date version of pcmanfm & I'd also hazard a guess at two systems wanting access to one system is not going to happy? | 00:35 |
| KM0201 | weird, but ok | 00:35 |
| KM0201 | naa, i got it. | 00:36 |
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| maxpolk | I'm trying to track down the name of the Lubuntu package that lets you configure the network proxy ( like http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-configure-ubuntu-desktop-to-use-your-proxy-server.html ) | 01:19 |
| Unit193 | Give me a sec | 01:20 |
| maxpolk | I ran into ubuntu-system-service but that's a seemingly back-end python package | 01:20 |
| Unit193 | Found the libproxy0 lib | 01:20 |
| maxpolk | I ran into gnome-control-center, but that installs regular ubuntu stuff and the Unity desktop too | 01:21 |
| Unit193 | Even with --no-install-recommends ? | 01:21 |
| maxpolk | oh, let me try that | 01:21 |
| maxpolk | I'll try it, but it seems like a lot of extra packages: http://pastebin.com/7P4wEJvz | 01:26 |
| maxpolk | 2.5M, not a whole lot actually | 01:28 |
| Unit193 | Some things, no matter how small, you wouldn't want to install | 01:29 |
| maxpolk | I went a long way, I'll just open a bug I think | 01:33 |
| maxpolk | Didn't help at all, removed it | 01:33 |
| Unit193 | purge? sudo apt-get autoremove --purge too? | 01:34 |
| maxpolk | nice, I'll remember that one | 01:35 |
| Unit193 | Yeah... I do that one too much... | 01:35 |
| maxpolk | and it removed a bunch of stuff too | 01:35 |
| maxpolk | what is the name of the Lubuntu installer? won't accept a bug report without a package name | 01:58 |
| maxpolk | found "debian-installer" in one place, not sure that's it | 01:58 |
| Unit193 | ubiquity | 01:58 |
| maxpolk | Thanks! | 01:59 |
| Unit193 | !info ubiquity | 01:59 |
| ubot5 | ubiquity (source: ubiquity): Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.10 (natty), package size 4025 kB, installed size 15068 kB | 01:59 |
| Unit193 | Yep, spelling and all! | 01:59 |
| maxpolk | Is there a way to open a bug report without the boatloads of info? It's a logical bug during installation, not related to hardware whatsoever. | 02:05 |
| maxpolk | plus, it was from a different machine | 02:05 |
| maxpolk | launchpad.net doesn't let you just type in a new bug I don't think | 02:07 |
| Unit193 | http://bugs.launchpad.net | 02:07 |
| Unit193 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug | 02:09 |
| Unit193 | Making me do all the work... ;) | 02:09 |
| maxpolk | D'oh, so sorry!!! | 02:09 |
| maxpolk | stupid question -- does it matter I'm filing against ubuntu / ubiquity instead of lubuntu / ubiquity? | 02:12 |
| Unit193 | Shouldn't really, but I'm no bug expert | 02:13 |
| Unit193 | #ubuntu-bugs may help if I can't (I donm't really mind) | 02:13 |
| Unudidntu | hi. In Lubuntu live, I have no Ifree remaining. How do I fixit? | 09:17 |
| leszek | hi | 09:19 |
| Unudidntu | hi? | 09:33 |
| * Unudidntu will be back later | 09:44 | |
| pcman | hi | 12:37 |
| sagaci | hi | 12:41 |
| newbie2011 | Question: I'm installing xubuntu along with Ubuntu + Windows, how do I make it so that xubuntu doesn't install a boot loader, where I could just do a update-grub on Ubuntu ? | 12:43 |
| newbie2011 | it says Device for boot loader installation: ? | 12:44 |
| sagaci | might be better in #xubuntu...? | 12:49 |
| newbie2011 | i might go there, but installation is the same anyway, lubuntu installation is based off of lubuntu anyway | 12:50 |
| newbie2011 | lubuntu installation is base of xubuntu* | 12:51 |
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| === mitu is now known as inxagu | ||
| bhm | Ubuntu One on Lubuntu? How does one install it? The sources on ubuntugeek, ubuntuforum, etc. are sparse with details. Does anyone have good experiences? | 18:13 |
| KM0201 | bhm: just install it? | 18:13 |
| KM0201 | apt-get install? | 18:13 |
| KM0201 | i don't use ubuntu one, but it can't be that difficult. | 18:14 |
| bhm | I have used apt-get install ubuntuone-client but am missing the last step to link my folders to the cloud | 18:14 |
| KM0201 | i use dropbox, it works fine (granted, free account only has 2gigs of storage, instead of 5) | 18:14 |
| KM0201 | bhm: don't you have to do that via the web interface? | 18:15 |
| bhm | Dropbox not an option :-) Must be ubuntu one. Web is manual. Ubuntuone client from gnome synchronises for me on 10.04 LTS but I want to have access to the same files from lubuntu | 18:16 |
| bhm | Shouldn't PCMan have similar capability? | 18:16 |
| Unit193 | Try installing ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk PCmanFM won't have the right-click to check where the files are on the site | 18:17 |
| jmarsden | Unit193: ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk is the program, ubuntuone-client is the package. | 18:18 |
| bhm | install message confirms unit193's statement | 18:18 |
| jmarsden | So sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client and then run the program called ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk | 18:18 |
| Unit193 | !info ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk | 18:18 |
| ubot5 | ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk (source: ubuntuone-control-panel): Ubuntu One Control Panel. In component main, is extra. Version 1.0.0-0ubuntu1.1 (natty), package size 91 kB, installed size 440 kB | 18:18 |
| Unit193 | That's a package | 18:19 |
| jmarsden | Interesting... I just installed ubuntuone-client and it provided the binary ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk ... :) | 18:19 |
| jmarsden | That's in a Oneiric alpha, maybe the packaging changed recently? | 18:19 |
| Unit193 | Version 1.0.0-0ubuntu1.1 (natty) | 18:20 |
| bhm | $ ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk result: importerror: no module named controlpanel.gtk | 18:20 |
| Unit193 | jmarsden: So you just installed ubuntuone-client and had everything you needed? | 18:24 |
| Unit193 | Not in depends/recommends I would assume | 18:25 |
| jmarsden | Seems like it... I don't think I had previously installed anything ubuntuone related... will check a little further... | 18:25 |
| jmarsden | Maybe the new installer setup includes some of the ubuntuone stuff by default in Oneiric? | 18:25 |
| bhm | sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client gives me the whole package and puts ubuntu one in the start menu under preferences. But it does not respond when activated. | 18:26 |
| Unit193 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/671166/ I can check later today about UbuntuOne in Oneiric | 18:26 |
| bhm | alrighty... what does paste.ubuntu.com/671166/ mean? | 18:31 |
| jmarsden | bhm: It is a list of all the ubuntuone stuff Unit193 has installed. | 18:31 |
| bhm | ok and that one works? | 18:32 |
| jmarsden | I don't know if it works for him... some package names have changed in Oneiric, I don't have an Lubuntu Natty VM I can test this on right now... | 18:32 |
| * jmarsden makes mental note to keep more VMs around :) | 18:33 | |
| Unit193 | Sadly, that's not on Lubuntu though (Not at the Lubuntu one, and it doesn't have U1 installed anyway) | 18:33 |
| Unit193 | How many VMs do you have? | 18:33 |
| jmarsden | Right now, 15. I don't run them all at once, obviously :) | 18:34 |
| bhm | i've got a VM running in virtualbox. How may I help? | 18:34 |
| jmarsden | well, if it is running Lubuntu 11.04 Natty as a gust OS, you could install the packages listed by Unit193 in that pastebin page and see if they work... | 18:35 |
| bhm | apt-get the whole list? | 18:35 |
| jmarsden | I'd apt-get ubuntuone-client and then check to see if the others are already installed , and install any of the rest that are not present. | 18:36 |
| Unit193 | I didn't need to even do that, they were recommends | 18:36 |
| jmarsden | OK... then... we ned to find out why bhm is seeing that importerror: no module named controlpanel.gtk | 18:37 |
| bhm | so climbing the learning curve quickly: how would you check what is installed? synaptic list? | 18:37 |
| jmarsden | bhm: dpkg -l |grep ^ii | grep ubuntuone would be one way.... | 18:37 |
| Unit193 | dpkg -l |grep words here (Me personally) | 18:37 |
| bhm | one moment... | 18:38 |
| bhm | all packages are there, plus some... (ran dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep ubuntuone | 18:41 |
| jmarsden | And you still see that import error if you run the ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk program? | 18:42 |
| bhm | jep: Traceback: File "/usr/bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk", line 29 in <module> from ubuntuone.controlpanel.gtk import TRANSLATION_DOMAIN ..... ImportError | 18:44 |
| jmarsden | Ah, that's a different error from the one you posted last time! | 18:44 |
| jmarsden | Can you pastebin the whole traceback for us to read please? | 18:45 |
| bhm | sorry, but they are the same. I must have been too sparse in my previous message. How do I pastebin and where should I put it? | 18:45 |
| bhm | :-) | 18:45 |
| Unit193 | I would think you could use pastebinit | 18:46 |
| Unit193 | But I'm going to let jmarsden take over since he's a dev :P | 18:46 |
| jmarsden | Right, you can manually browse to http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste in the text with the mouse, or you can use pastebinit | 18:47 |
| bhm | ok. and the traceback? just the text from the cmdline or something more informative? | 18:48 |
| bhm | http://paste.ubuntu.com | 18:48 |
| jmarsden | Yes, all the text that showed up in the command window from the command you typed to the prompt after it displayed the traceback | 18:49 |
| jmarsden | You'll need to tell us the URL it pastebins to... | 18:49 |
| bhm | coming up. VM not that fast :-) | 18:49 |
| jmarsden | If you want to automate it, something like ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk 2>&1 |pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com | 18:49 |
| Unit193 | paste.ubuntu.com is currently default anyway | 18:50 |
| bhm | paste.ubuntu.com/671185/ | 18:50 |
| jmarsden | bhm: OK. By the way, if you used the whole URL including the http: the link would be clickable and so easier for us to use :) | 18:51 |
| bhm | my apologies.... | 18:52 |
| jmarsden | Looks like a bug or there is a python module you are missing... let me try to find where that module is on my system... | 18:52 |
| jmarsden | I *think* that's a bug.. want to try editing one line of the Python code to see if I can fix it? | 18:54 |
| bhm | :-) | 18:54 |
| jmarsden | What does locate ubuntuone.controlpanel output on your system? | 18:55 |
| bhm | /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.ubuntuone.controlpanel.gui.service | 18:57 |
| bhm | and | 18:57 |
| bhm | /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.ubuntuone.controlpanel.service | 18:57 |
| jmarsden | OK. So I think we can try editing one line of the file /usr/bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk | 18:59 |
| bhm | vim? | 18:59 |
| jmarsden | well, we could, but I think I can do a oneliner with sed or perl instead... give me a sec... | 18:59 |
| bhm | :-) | 18:59 |
| jmarsden | sudo perl -p -i.bak -e 's/ubuntuone.controlpanel.gtk/ubuntuone.controlpanel/' /usr/bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk | 19:02 |
| bhm | in progress... | 19:02 |
| bhm | cmdline happy | 19:04 |
| jmarsden | OK, now does running ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk work? | 19:04 |
| bhm | http://paste.ubuntu.com/671197/ | 19:06 |
| jmarsden | Hmmm. OK, you really do seem to have some chunk of Python module(s) missing. | 19:07 |
| jmarsden | sudo mv /usr/bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk.bak /usr/bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk | 19:08 |
| jmarsden | will undo my patch. | 19:08 |
| bhm | in progress | 19:08 |
| jmarsden | Then we need to try and find out exactly what file(s) you are missing and what packages they are in... | 19:08 |
| bhm | my update manager has just announced it wants to restart | 19:10 |
| bhm | may i suggest restart and then contrinue? | 19:10 |
| jmarsden | Go ahead, if you want to. Then when it comes back, try dpkg -l python-ubuntuone-control-panel and tell me what it says, please. | 19:10 |
| bhm | VM rebooting... | 19:11 |
| jmarsden | I suspect your machine either does not have, or cannot "see", the files from the package python-ubuntuone-control-panel | 19:14 |
| jmarsden | Did it come back up yet? | 19:14 |
| bhm | yep. got a new message. putting on pastebin... | 19:14 |
| bhm | http://paste.ubuntu.com/671208/ | 19:15 |
| jmarsden | Looks fine... hmmm. OK, let's try find /usr/lib -name ubuntuone-control-panel |xargs ls -ld | 19:16 |
| bhm | hmmm | 19:18 |
| bhm | no such file or dir | 19:18 |
| jmarsden | OK... so there is the issue. Teh package claims to be installed but the files it installs are missing! | 19:19 |
| bhm | xargs: ls-ld: no such file or dir | 19:19 |
| jmarsden | Oh... no space between ls and -ld ? | 19:19 |
| bhm | aaah.... | 19:19 |
| jmarsden | cut and paste the command from IRC into your VM to avoid that kind of issue... it is also usually faster than retyping stuff. | 19:20 |
| bhm | How do you do that from virtualbox? | 19:20 |
| bhm | find /usr/lib -name ubuntuone-control-panel |xargs ls -ld | 19:20 |
| jmarsden | Do you have the guest additions installed in the gust OS? | 19:20 |
| jmarsden | s/gust/guest/ | 19:20 |
| bhm | probably not. I just installed vbox and currently run lubuntu in that as a default install | 19:21 |
| bhm | anyway the files are /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ubuntuone-control-panel and /usr/lib/ubuntuone-control-panel | 19:22 |
| jmarsden | OK... so they are there. But apparently they are not being found by python... | 19:23 |
| jmarsden | What does python --version say? | 19:23 |
| bhm | python 2.7.1+ | 19:24 |
| jmarsden | OK, sounds normal... this is odd. and I'm being asked to to out for lunch with my family... I expect to be back in about 90 minutes, can we restart looking at this then? | 19:25 |
| bhm | :-) I'll grab some dinner in the meantime :-) | 19:25 |
| bhm | I'm in GMT timezone... | 19:25 |
| jmarsden | OK. See you later. I'm from the UK, but living in California. | 19:26 |
| bhm | Enjoy the lunch :-) | 19:26 |
| bhm | . | 21:25 |
| jmarsden | I'm back (and full)... | 21:31 |
| bhm | :-) | 21:32 |
| jmarsden | bhm: I set up a VM running Lubuntu 11.04 and after sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client ubuntuone-control-panel | 21:32 |
| jmarsden | the thing "just works" for me. | 21:32 |
| bhm | testing | 21:33 |
| bhm | installation works smooth, but ubuntuone doesn't seem to respond. | 21:35 |
| bhm | I suggest to kill the VM and retry from a fresh iso. | 21:35 |
| jmarsden | If you run ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk from a shell do you still get the traceback? | 21:35 |
| bhm | stand by | 21:35 |
| bhm | "command not found" | 21:36 |
| bhm | wait! | 21:36 |
| bhm | made a type. | 21:36 |
| bhm | Traceback: "/usr/bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk", line 29 in module ... import TRANSLATION_DOMAIN | 21:37 |
| bhm | ImportError: No module named controlpanel.gtk | 21:37 |
| jmarsden | OK. If I could duplicate that issue here, I could troubleshoot it. But for me, it runs fine. | 21:38 |
| bhm | ok. I retry with a fresh 11.04 iso VM. | 21:38 |
| bhm | Was the lunch good? | 21:38 |
| jmarsden | Yes, thanks. Our daughter is home for a couple of weeks before heading back to University, so it's good to spend time with her... | 21:39 |
| bhm | :-0 | 21:39 |
| bhm | :-) | 21:39 |
| jmarsden | OK, I found a way to trace all module imports... if you want, you can try python -v /usr/bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk 2>&1 |pastebinit | 21:46 |
| jmarsden | I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/671292 from Oneiric... | 21:47 |
| jmarsden | But maybe a fresh VM is simpler :) | 21:47 |
| bhm | install is running.... | 21:48 |
| KM0201 | whats the name of that password tool?.. i thought it was supposed to be installed by default, but its not... | 21:48 |
| KM0201 | (manages all the keyrings, etc..) | 21:48 |
| jmarsden | seahorse ? | 21:49 |
| KM0201 | no.. | 21:49 |
| KM0201 | i don't think so.. lemmm echeck | 21:49 |
| KM0201 | hmm, looking at the description, that might be it. | 21:50 |
| KM0201 | lemme look | 21:50 |
| KM0201 | yup, thats it | 21:50 |
| KM0201 | thanks | 21:51 |
| jmarsden | You're welcome. | 21:51 |
| KM0201 | jmarsden: i do have one more question, (little more along the lines of ubuntu server).. if you have a second | 21:51 |
| jmarsden | OK. | 21:51 |
| KM0201 | ok, i was messing w/ vbox, trying to figure out how to rebuild a software raid 1, after a drive was removed, that went well, so long as i manually removed it, before importing/syncing a new drive. | 21:52 |
| KM0201 | my question is, on a "live sytem".. lets assume a drive chokes... and you didn't have a chance to remove it from the RAID.. i tried removing a drive, and the server booted up, but it wouldn't let me modify the raid, because the old drive was "gone". | 21:53 |
| KM0201 | would i have to delete the old raid(md0) and create a new one? | 21:53 |
| jmarsden | On md0 if you lose a drive, you lose that array, RAID0 has no redundancy... so probably yes. I've only used RAID1 and RAID5 in Linux software RAID though. | 21:54 |
| KM0201 | well its a raid 1 setup | 21:54 |
| jmarsden | For RAID1, you should be able to put a new drive in, and add it to the existing array with mdadm | 21:55 |
| KM0201 | hmm, thats what i tried to do, but it wouldn't let me. | 21:56 |
| KM0201 | kept saying the raid was invalid, if i recall. | 21:56 |
| KM0201 | it showed md0, as "inactive" | 21:56 |
| jmarsden | It's been a while since I've done much with that, but you should pastebin what command you are trying and the exact error msg, and someone #ubuntu-server can probably help. | 21:56 |
| jmarsden | A RAID1 array with one failed drive should be fixable... does the idea in http://dougbunger.blogspot.com/2009/02/actinvating-inactive-raid-element.html help? | 21:58 |
| jmarsden | KM0201: Looks like stop, assemble, then add should work. | 22:00 |
| jmarsden | bhm: Is your fresh VM install completed yet? | 22:08 |
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