[00:06] Hi, where do I put an app to start automatically when I login, please? [00:11] Wakey, wakey, hands off snakey! Anybody there? [00:15] marge_simpson: menu | Preferences | Desktop Session Settings [00:17] If it's not there, try http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Autostart [00:18] marge_simpson: The Lubuntu FAQs can be found at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ and should provide you with the info you need [00:22] Thanks folks (had to answer Nature's call there...) BFN [00:24] marge_simpson: read the topic next time, much easier :D [00:30] why is it, i can find a samba connection in pyneighborhood,and connect to it, but i can't see it in "network paces" on PCmanFM [00:33] phillw: any ideas? [00:34] KM0201: pyneighboorhood was dropped as it did not work. [00:34] pcmanfm can quite happily handle samba [00:34] phillw: well, strangely, it works fine, but pcman can't even see it [00:34] thus my problem [00:35] wait, i think i figured out the problem [00:35] yeah, i ddi. [00:35] KM0201: have you got the up to date version of pcmanfm & I'd also hazard a guess at two systems wanting access to one system is not going to happy? [00:35] weird, but ok [00:36] naa, i got it. === Hellow is now known as collinp [01:19] I'm trying to track down the name of the Lubuntu package that lets you configure the network proxy ( like http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-configure-ubuntu-desktop-to-use-your-proxy-server.html ) [01:20] Give me a sec [01:20] I ran into ubuntu-system-service but that's a seemingly back-end python package [01:20] Found the libproxy0 lib [01:21] I ran into gnome-control-center, but that installs regular ubuntu stuff and the Unity desktop too [01:21] Even with --no-install-recommends ? [01:21] oh, let me try that [01:26] I'll try it, but it seems like a lot of extra packages: http://pastebin.com/7P4wEJvz [01:28] 2.5M, not a whole lot actually [01:29] Some things, no matter how small, you wouldn't want to install [01:33] I went a long way, I'll just open a bug I think [01:33] Didn't help at all, removed it [01:34] purge? sudo apt-get autoremove --purge too? [01:35] nice, I'll remember that one [01:35] Yeah... I do that one too much... [01:35] and it removed a bunch of stuff too [01:58] what is the name of the Lubuntu installer? won't accept a bug report without a package name [01:58] found "debian-installer" in one place, not sure that's it [01:58] ubiquity [01:59] Thanks! [01:59] !info ubiquity [01:59] ubiquity (source: ubiquity): Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.10 (natty), package size 4025 kB, installed size 15068 kB [01:59] Yep, spelling and all! [02:05] Is there a way to open a bug report without the boatloads of info? It's a logical bug during installation, not related to hardware whatsoever. [02:05] plus, it was from a different machine [02:07] launchpad.net doesn't let you just type in a new bug I don't think [02:07] http://bugs.launchpad.net [02:09] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug [02:09] Making me do all the work... ;) [02:09] D'oh, so sorry!!! [02:12] stupid question -- does it matter I'm filing against ubuntu / ubiquity instead of lubuntu / ubiquity? [02:13] Shouldn't really, but I'm no bug expert [02:13] #ubuntu-bugs may help if I can't (I donm't really mind) [09:17] hi. In Lubuntu live, I have no Ifree remaining. How do I fixit? [09:19] hi [09:33] hi? [09:44] * Unudidntu will be back later [12:37] hi [12:41] hi [12:43] Question: I'm installing xubuntu along with Ubuntu + Windows, how do I make it so that xubuntu doesn't install a boot loader, where I could just do a update-grub on Ubuntu ? [12:44] it says Device for boot loader installation: ? [12:49] might be better in #xubuntu...? [12:50] i might go there, but installation is the same anyway, lubuntu installation is based off of lubuntu anyway [12:51] lubuntu installation is base of xubuntu* === nu2uyu is now known as mitu === mitu is now known as inxagu [18:13] Ubuntu One on Lubuntu? How does one install it? The sources on ubuntugeek, ubuntuforum, etc. are sparse with details. Does anyone have good experiences? [18:13] bhm: just install it? [18:13] apt-get install? [18:14] i don't use ubuntu one, but it can't be that difficult. [18:14] I have used apt-get install ubuntuone-client but am missing the last step to link my folders to the cloud [18:14] i use dropbox, it works fine (granted, free account only has 2gigs of storage, instead of 5) [18:15] bhm: don't you have to do that via the web interface? [18:16] Dropbox not an option :-) Must be ubuntu one. Web is manual. Ubuntuone client from gnome synchronises for me on 10.04 LTS but I want to have access to the same files from lubuntu [18:16] Shouldn't PCMan have similar capability? [18:17] Try installing ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk PCmanFM won't have the right-click to check where the files are on the site [18:18] Unit193: ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk is the program, ubuntuone-client is the package. [18:18] install message confirms unit193's statement [18:18] So sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client and then run the program called ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk [18:18] !info ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk [18:18] ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk (source: ubuntuone-control-panel): Ubuntu One Control Panel. In component main, is extra. Version 1.0.0-0ubuntu1.1 (natty), package size 91 kB, installed size 440 kB [18:19] That's a package [18:19] Interesting... I just installed ubuntuone-client and it provided the binary ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk ... :) [18:19] That's in a Oneiric alpha, maybe the packaging changed recently? [18:20] Version 1.0.0-0ubuntu1.1 (natty) [18:20] $ ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk result: importerror: no module named controlpanel.gtk [18:24] jmarsden: So you just installed ubuntuone-client and had everything you needed? [18:25] Not in depends/recommends I would assume [18:25] Seems like it... I don't think I had previously installed anything ubuntuone related... will check a little further... [18:25] Maybe the new installer setup includes some of the ubuntuone stuff by default in Oneiric? [18:26] sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client gives me the whole package and puts ubuntu one in the start menu under preferences. But it does not respond when activated. [18:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/671166/ I can check later today about UbuntuOne in Oneiric [18:31] alrighty... what does paste.ubuntu.com/671166/ mean? [18:31] bhm: It is a list of all the ubuntuone stuff Unit193 has installed. [18:32] ok and that one works? [18:32] I don't know if it works for him... some package names have changed in Oneiric, I don't have an Lubuntu Natty VM I can test this on right now... [18:33] * jmarsden makes mental note to keep more VMs around :) [18:33] Sadly, that's not on Lubuntu though (Not at the Lubuntu one, and it doesn't have U1 installed anyway) [18:33] How many VMs do you have? [18:34] Right now, 15. I don't run them all at once, obviously :) [18:34] i've got a VM running in virtualbox. How may I help? [18:35] well, if it is running Lubuntu 11.04 Natty as a gust OS, you could install the packages listed by Unit193 in that pastebin page and see if they work... [18:35] apt-get the whole list? [18:36] I'd apt-get ubuntuone-client and then check to see if the others are already installed , and install any of the rest that are not present. [18:36] I didn't need to even do that, they were recommends [18:37] OK... then... we ned to find out why bhm is seeing that importerror: no module named controlpanel.gtk [18:37] so climbing the learning curve quickly: how would you check what is installed? synaptic list? [18:37] bhm: dpkg -l |grep ^ii | grep ubuntuone would be one way.... [18:37] dpkg -l |grep words here (Me personally) [18:38] one moment... [18:41] all packages are there, plus some... (ran dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep ubuntuone [18:42] And you still see that import error if you run the ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk program? [18:44] jep: Traceback: File "/usr/bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk", line 29 in from ubuntuone.controlpanel.gtk import TRANSLATION_DOMAIN ..... ImportError [18:44] Ah, that's a different error from the one you posted last time! [18:45] Can you pastebin the whole traceback for us to read please? [18:45] sorry, but they are the same. I must have been too sparse in my previous message. How do I pastebin and where should I put it? [18:45] :-) [18:46] I would think you could use pastebinit [18:46] But I'm going to let jmarsden take over since he's a dev :P [18:47] Right, you can manually browse to http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste in the text with the mouse, or you can use pastebinit [18:48] ok. and the traceback? just the text from the cmdline or something more informative? [18:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com [18:49] Yes, all the text that showed up in the command window from the command you typed to the prompt after it displayed the traceback [18:49] You'll need to tell us the URL it pastebins to... [18:49] coming up. VM not that fast :-) [18:49] If you want to automate it, something like ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk 2>&1 |pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com [18:50] paste.ubuntu.com is currently default anyway [18:50] paste.ubuntu.com/671185/ [18:51] bhm: OK. By the way, if you used the whole URL including the http: the link would be clickable and so easier for us to use :) [18:52] my apologies.... [18:52] Looks like a bug or there is a python module you are missing... let me try to find where that module is on my system... [18:54] I *think* that's a bug.. want to try editing one line of the Python code to see if I can fix it? [18:54] :-) [18:55] What does locate ubuntuone.controlpanel output on your system? [18:57] /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.ubuntuone.controlpanel.gui.service [18:57] and [18:57] /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.ubuntuone.controlpanel.service [18:59] OK. So I think we can try editing one line of the file /usr/bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk [18:59] vim? [18:59] well, we could, but I think I can do a oneliner with sed or perl instead... give me a sec... [18:59] :-) [19:02] sudo perl -p -i.bak -e 's/ubuntuone.controlpanel.gtk/ubuntuone.controlpanel/' /usr/bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk [19:02] in progress... [19:04] cmdline happy [19:04] OK, now does running ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk work? [19:06] http://paste.ubuntu.com/671197/ [19:07] Hmmm. OK, you really do seem to have some chunk of Python module(s) missing. [19:08] sudo mv /usr/bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk.bak /usr/bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk [19:08] will undo my patch. [19:08] in progress [19:08] Then we need to try and find out exactly what file(s) you are missing and what packages they are in... [19:10] my update manager has just announced it wants to restart [19:10] may i suggest restart and then contrinue? [19:10] Go ahead, if you want to. Then when it comes back, try dpkg -l python-ubuntuone-control-panel and tell me what it says, please. [19:11] VM rebooting... [19:14] I suspect your machine either does not have, or cannot "see", the files from the package python-ubuntuone-control-panel [19:14] Did it come back up yet? [19:14] yep. got a new message. putting on pastebin... [19:15] http://paste.ubuntu.com/671208/ [19:16] Looks fine... hmmm. OK, let's try find /usr/lib -name ubuntuone-control-panel |xargs ls -ld [19:18] hmmm [19:18] no such file or dir [19:19] OK... so there is the issue. Teh package claims to be installed but the files it installs are missing! [19:19] xargs: ls-ld: no such file or dir [19:19] Oh... no space between ls and -ld ? [19:19] aaah.... [19:20] cut and paste the command from IRC into your VM to avoid that kind of issue... it is also usually faster than retyping stuff. [19:20] How do you do that from virtualbox? [19:20] find /usr/lib -name ubuntuone-control-panel |xargs ls -ld [19:20] Do you have the guest additions installed in the gust OS? [19:20] s/gust/guest/ [19:21] probably not. I just installed vbox and currently run lubuntu in that as a default install [19:22] anyway the files are /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ubuntuone-control-panel and /usr/lib/ubuntuone-control-panel [19:23] OK... so they are there. But apparently they are not being found by python... [19:23] What does python --version say? [19:24] python 2.7.1+ [19:25] OK, sounds normal... this is odd. and I'm being asked to to out for lunch with my family... I expect to be back in about 90 minutes, can we restart looking at this then? [19:25] :-) I'll grab some dinner in the meantime :-) [19:25] I'm in GMT timezone... [19:26] OK. See you later. I'm from the UK, but living in California. [19:26] Enjoy the lunch :-) [21:25] . [21:31] I'm back (and full)... [21:32] :-) [21:32] bhm: I set up a VM running Lubuntu 11.04 and after sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client ubuntuone-control-panel [21:32] the thing "just works" for me. [21:33] testing [21:35] installation works smooth, but ubuntuone doesn't seem to respond. [21:35] I suggest to kill the VM and retry from a fresh iso. [21:35] If you run ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk from a shell do you still get the traceback? [21:35] stand by [21:36] "command not found" [21:36] wait! [21:36] made a type. [21:37] Traceback: "/usr/bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk", line 29 in module ... import TRANSLATION_DOMAIN [21:37] ImportError: No module named controlpanel.gtk [21:38] OK. If I could duplicate that issue here, I could troubleshoot it. But for me, it runs fine. [21:38] ok. I retry with a fresh 11.04 iso VM. [21:38] Was the lunch good? [21:39] Yes, thanks. Our daughter is home for a couple of weeks before heading back to University, so it's good to spend time with her... [21:39] :-0 [21:39] :-) [21:46] OK, I found a way to trace all module imports... if you want, you can try python -v /usr/bin/ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk 2>&1 |pastebinit [21:47] I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/671292 from Oneiric... [21:47] But maybe a fresh VM is simpler :) [21:48] install is running.... [21:48] whats the name of that password tool?.. i thought it was supposed to be installed by default, but its not... [21:48] (manages all the keyrings, etc..) [21:49] seahorse ? [21:49] no.. [21:49] i don't think so.. lemmm echeck [21:50] hmm, looking at the description, that might be it. [21:50] lemme look [21:50] yup, thats it [21:51] thanks [21:51] You're welcome. [21:51] jmarsden: i do have one more question, (little more along the lines of ubuntu server).. if you have a second [21:51] OK. [21:52] ok, i was messing w/ vbox, trying to figure out how to rebuild a software raid 1, after a drive was removed, that went well, so long as i manually removed it, before importing/syncing a new drive. [21:53] my question is, on a "live sytem".. lets assume a drive chokes... and you didn't have a chance to remove it from the RAID.. i tried removing a drive, and the server booted up, but it wouldn't let me modify the raid, because the old drive was "gone". [21:53] would i have to delete the old raid(md0) and create a new one? [21:54] On md0 if you lose a drive, you lose that array, RAID0 has no redundancy... so probably yes. I've only used RAID1 and RAID5 in Linux software RAID though. [21:54] well its a raid 1 setup [21:55] For RAID1, you should be able to put a new drive in, and add it to the existing array with mdadm [21:56] hmm, thats what i tried to do, but it wouldn't let me. [21:56] kept saying the raid was invalid, if i recall. [21:56] it showed md0, as "inactive" [21:56] It's been a while since I've done much with that, but you should pastebin what command you are trying and the exact error msg, and someone #ubuntu-server can probably help. [21:58] A RAID1 array with one failed drive should be fixable... does the idea in http://dougbunger.blogspot.com/2009/02/actinvating-inactive-raid-element.html help? [22:00] KM0201: Looks like stop, assemble, then add should work. [22:08] bhm: Is your fresh VM install completed yet?