| === seidos_ is now known as seidos | ||
| rww | Woot. Looks like my mom's 10.10 -> 11.04 upgrade went fine :) | 03:50 |
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| sn9 | awesome | 03:51 |
| regularjo | May I ask about the following instruction for installing my new samsung printer smart panel. The instructions are as follows: Smart Panel Application Install Guide] | 09:00 |
| regularjo | 1. When the Administrator Login window appears, type in root in the Login field | 09:00 |
| regularjo | and enter the system password. | 09:00 |
| regularjo | 2. Download and extract the Smart Panel. | 09:00 |
| regularjo | [root@localhost root]#tar xzf [Downloaded File Name(XXXX.tar.gz)] | 09:00 |
| regularjo | 3. The Smart Panel will be extracted as ''cdroot'' folder in current path. | 09:00 |
| regularjo | 4. Execute installation program. | 09:00 |
| regularjo | [root@localhost root]#./cdroot/Linux/smartpanel/install.sh | 09:01 |
| regularjo | 5. Smart Panel will be installed automatically and success message will be displayed in terminal. | 09:01 |
| regularjo | 6. Smart Panel will be launced automatically after installation. | 09:01 |
| regularjo | so from the desktop to type control x alt x f2 to get the the virtual terminal. Do I really type "root" next? | 09:02 |
| aaditya | no regularjo, don't type root. | 09:03 |
| aaditya | Why would you want to get to a virtual terminal? | 09:03 |
| aaditya | If you want a terminal, just hit Ctrl+Alt+T. | 09:03 |
| regularjo | Instead of "root" do I type in my user name which is regularjo? (I'll get to ctr-alt-t in a minute) | 09:06 |
| aaditya | Why are you typing any of these? | 09:07 |
| aaditya | I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish, regularjo. | 09:07 |
| regularjo | I have just posted the instructions above which are the instructions for installing the smart panel for my new printer. | 09:07 |
| aaditya | You don't need a virtual terminal to follow these instructions, if I understand correctly. | 09:09 |
| aaditya | Please try starting a console by going to Applications > Accessories > Terminal | 09:09 |
| aaditya | and if you need root access in that terminal, type `sudo su` | 09:10 |
| regularjo | ok | 09:10 |
| regularjo | the result is this: root@Ubuntu:/home/regularjo# | 09:11 |
| regularjo | Am I now ready for step 2? | 09:11 |
| regularjo | I can't seem to select and copy test from this page. can that be done? | 09:15 |
| aaditya | type `cd /tmp` to switch to the temporary directory before you proceed. | 09:16 |
| regularjo | you mean in terminal? | 09:17 |
| regularjo | it type it and the response was: bash: cd: tmp: No such file or directory | 09:21 |
| regularjo | I want to go to step 2 which says: Download and extract the smart panel [root@localhost root]#tar xzf [Downloaded File Name(XXXX.tar.gz)] So..... I copied in "[root@localhost root]#tar xzf [Downloaded File Name(XXXX.tar.gz)] brackets xxxs and everything but I get the following response bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' | 09:24 |
| regularjo | I assume I don't type the brackets. do I change root@localhost to regularjo@ubuntu becaause those are my user and computer names? | 09:26 |
| regularjo | aaditya, would you chat with me a little longer about making entries in console? | 10:16 |
| regularjo | aaditya, will you chat a little more about entering strings in console? | 10:41 |
| === jah is now known as bsmartt` | ||
| regularjo | could anyone chat with me about typing commands or text in terminal? I want to install the smart panel for my printer but I don't understand the installation guide. | 15:38 |
| akk | I don't know what the smart panel is, but I'm happy to help with general questions on typing commands. | 15:40 |
| akk | Is the installation guide online? | 15:40 |
| regularjo | Yes. It is at: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads/SCX-4623F/XAA. I want to install the smart panel driver for Linux | 15:43 |
| akk | ah, the instructions are in the tarball (.tar.gz) you downloaded? | 15:45 |
| regularjo | I haven't download anything yet. I couldn't understand step 1 which is: 1. When the Administrator Login window appears, type in root in the Login field | 15:46 |
| regularjo | and enter the system password. | 15:46 |
| akk | oh, dear ... ubuntu systems don't generally have a root password | 15:47 |
| akk | so you're right not to understand that :) | 15:47 |
| regularjo | when I open terminal on my machine, i see: regularjo@Ubuntu:~$ | 15:48 |
| akk | Wait, how do you see the instructions without downloading anything? that url has a page of links -- which one is the instructions you're reading? | 15:48 |
| akk | I'm trying to figure out whether this Administrator Login window they're talking about is just logging in to the system in a shell, or a window in their app. | 15:49 |
| akk | If they just want you to have a root shell, that's easy. But I can't tell that from just that single line. | 15:50 |
| regularjo | It really isn't a link, it you click on the "link" it just expands to show you the steps | 15:50 |
| akk | ah, I see | 15:50 |
| akk | Okay, yes, they just want you to get a root shell, and they expressed it very unclearly. | 15:52 |
| regularjo | Do you have any thinking on Step 1 so i can get to the point of attempting step 2, or can I skip the root business altogether? | 15:52 |
| akk | You can skip step 1 | 15:53 |
| akk | then when you get to step 4 (execute the installation program), put sudo in front of it | 15:53 |
| akk | sudo ./cdroot/Linux/smartpanel/install.sh | 15:53 |
| akk | it'll ask for a password -- it just wants your normal login password | 15:54 |
| regularjo | But now I'm stuck on step 2 which is: 2. Download and extract the Smart Panel. | 15:54 |
| regularjo | [root@localhost root]#tar xzf [Downloaded File Name(XXXX.tar.gz)] | 15:54 |
| akk | That's the little icon over at the right under "File" in the browser | 15:54 |
| akk | you can right-click on it and "save link as" (or similar, depending on which browser you use) | 15:54 |
| akk | then you'll have the .tar .gz file and you can run that tar command they give. | 15:55 |
| regularjo | I'm sorry. I'm lost on step 2. From my machine, terminal mode, after regularjo@Ubuntu:~$ would I type:[root@localhost root]#tar xzf [Downloaded File Name(XXXX.tar.gz)] | 15:57 |
| akk | No, that root@localhost thing is what they think your prompt is. Just type tar xzf filename.tar.gz | 15:57 |
| akk | after you've downloaded the file | 15:57 |
| akk | of corse filename.tar.gz is whatever the real downloaded filename was | 15:58 |
| regularjo | How do I know what the "real download filename is? can I just create a name? | 16:00 |
| akk | Have you downloaded the file yet? Maybe you should start with that. | 16:01 |
| akk | That's really step 2, and extracting the tar is step 2.5. | 16:01 |
| akk | When you download a file, the browser asks you where to save it | 16:01 |
| akk | and what the filename will be | 16:01 |
| akk | so make a note of that, because that's the filename you need to give to the tar command. | 16:02 |
| regularjo | Can we go back to step 2 about downloading the file. what do I enter to do that? | 16:02 |
| akk | do it in your browser | 16:03 |
| akk | This is the first time you've downloaded a file from the web? | 16:03 |
| akk | I mentioned earlier: you can right-click on it and "save link as" (or similar, depending on which browser you use) | 16:03 |
| akk | it will ask you where to save | 16:03 |
| regularjo | Oh, the little file icon on the right. O.K. it will be a minute or 2 | 16:04 |
| regularjo | O.k. I downloaded it to my Download director and its name is Smartpanel_1.10.tar.gz. So I opened terminal a typed Smartpane_1.10.tar.gz but the response is:tar (child): Smartpanel_1.10.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory | 16:11 |
| regularjo | tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now | 16:11 |
| regularjo | tar: Child returned status 2 | 16:11 |
| regularjo | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now | 16:11 |
| regularjo | I mean I typed Smartpanel_1.10.tar.gz and got the above error message | 16:12 |
| regularjo | No. I just didn't see the icon that you directed me to. I don't it many many times in windows. | 16:13 |
| akk | You're probably not in the directory where you downloaded Smartpanel_1.10.tar.gz. Where did you put it? | 16:13 |
| regularjo | That is, I have download many files from the web. | 16:14 |
| akk | It might be in your Downloads directory or somewhere like that. | 16:14 |
| akk | When you open a terminal, you're in your home directory -- you can type ls (that's an ell, not a one, it's short for list) to see what files you have there. | 16:14 |
| akk | You can use a normal file manager, whatever you're used to, to figure out where you downloaded that Smartpanel_1.10.tar.gz file. | 16:15 |
| regularjo | Ok. I am in terminal as follows: regularjo@Ubuntu:~/Downloads$ ls | 16:17 |
| regularjo | Smartpanel_1.10.tar.gz | 16:17 |
| akk | Okay, so now you can type the tar command. | 16:21 |
| akk | What was the tar command you typed before that gave the error? | 16:22 |
| regularjo | O.k. From regularjo@Ubuntu:~/Downloads$ I type: #tar xzf Smartpanel_1.10.tar.gz and I didn't get any messages, so that means It worked. Yes? | 16:23 |
| akk | You typed the # too? | 16:24 |
| regularjo | Yes | 16:25 |
| akk | Don't type #, that's a comment. | 16:25 |
| regularjo | ok. I'll try again | 16:25 |
| akk | Maybe add a v -- tar xzvf Smartpanel_1.10.tar.gz -- then you'll get lots of output | 16:25 |
| akk | (v for verbose, it shows all the files it's extracting) | 16:26 |
| regularjo | that is v space two dashes space tar xzvf ( why the v between the z and the f? | 16:27 |
| akk | argh, no | 16:28 |
| akk | type this command: | 16:28 |
| akk | tar xzvf Smartpanel_1.10.tar.gz | 16:28 |
| akk | it's exactly like the other command except I added a v | 16:29 |
| akk | that's why I said "add a v" and then, inside dashes, I gave the full new command | 16:29 |
| regularjo | o.k. | 16:29 |
| regularjo | I got tons of files estracting. What's next? | 16:31 |
| regularjo | Step3. in the guide say: The Smart Panel will be extracted as ''cdroot'' folder in current path. Where is CD root? Or is it in the Downloads directory? | 16:33 |
| akk | They give you a command to run. But remember I said before, you have to put sudo in front of it: | 16:33 |
| akk | sudo ./cdroot/Linux/smartpanel/install.sh | 16:34 |
| regularjo | I have a cdroot subdirectory in my download directory | 16:34 |
| akk | That means you'll be running as root, so you're trusting them not to do anything harmful to your system. | 16:34 |
| regularjo | I have a cdroot subdirectory in my download directory | 16:34 |
| akk | (samsung should be trustworthy, one would think) | 16:34 |
| regularjo | I type sudo ./cdroot/Linux/smartpanel/install.sh from three times: one from cdroot subdirectory, one from the Downloads directory and one from regularjo@Ubuntu, but each time it said: command not found | 16:41 |
| akk | Run it from the download directory, the one where ls shows a cdroot subdirectory. | 16:45 |
| regularjo | ok | 16:45 |
| akk | If it doesn't work from there, ls cdroot and see if it has a Linux subdirectory | 16:45 |
| akk | and if it does, ls cdroot/Linux and see if it has a smartpanel subdirectory | 16:45 |
| akk | and if it does, ls cdroot/Linux/smartpanel | 16:45 |
| akk | and see if there's an install.sh there | 16:45 |
| akk | (or do the same thing in your favorite file manager, but that's how to explore directories from the shell) | 16:46 |
| regularjo | O.k. it said it installed. and then I open applications and type "smart" and it showed that it was installed, but when I clicked on the icon it didn't open | 16:52 |
| regularjo | akk. thank you for all your patience. that was the first time I installed a program with terminal. I don't know why it didn't open, but I have some confidence now that I didn't have before we started working this morning. thank you again. | 16:59 |
| akk | Yay! Hope you get it running. | 17:00 |
| regularjo | akk, I saved our session because it is relevant to any program I want to download in terminal | 17:35 |
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