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peperinahi02:54
peperinaanybody out there?02:54
lightahi peperina yeah ?02:54
peperinahey there, i'm having some trouble here02:55
peperinaand i needed some help02:55
peperinai just installed xubuntu 11.0402:55
lightaand ?02:56
peperinaand when i try to install any program at ubuntu software center02:56
peperinanothing happens02:56
peperinathe install button goes back to normal and nothing happens =S02:56
lightahmm, did you install it from bios ?02:56
peperinaany thoughts?02:56
lightaas wubi ?02:56
lightaas usb ?02:56
lightatell me more about your installation02:57
peperinaI installed it from cd (i already have installed ubuntu also)02:57
peperinai installed it along with ubunu, intoanother partition02:58
lightaah ok so it's a good install my first guess was that it wasn't a permanent version so it would be normal if you couldn't install any software02:58
lightahmm so02:58
lightaand I guess you're a sudouser ?02:58
peperinai think so.. being sincere, 3 days ago I was using windows, and I said "I need linux", and here I am02:59
peperinaI'm getting involved with this yet02:59
peperinabut i think i'm a sudo user, (I used commands reccomended in forums starting with sudo and they worked)03:00
peperinaI just solved it, using sudo software-center03:11
peperinathanks anyway!03:11
bazhangdoes xubuntu use gksudo/gksu? or something else03:15
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xrdodrxbazhang: xubuntu uses gksu13:36
bazhangxrdodrx, thanks13:43
knomeafaik gksudo is as good as gksu13:43
xrdodrxw/ 113:47
Sysiiirc in ubuntu they're just alias to each other14:22
Sysi!graphicalsudo14:22
Sysihrm, what was it14:22
Sysi!gksu14:23
ubottuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)14:23
Inglarэто русски?14:23
Sysi!ru14:24
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.14:24
Numnanybody know if its possible too only show the icons instead of the text on the menu if you understand what i mean14:45
TheSheepyou could probably modify a gtk theme like that14:45
Numnso i cant do that.. if i dont do that you told me=14:48
TheSheepthere may be other ways, but there is no option like that anywhere in the settings14:49
TheSheepNumn: wait, I assume you are talking about the applications menu14:50
TheSheepNumn: if you mean the toolbars, then of course there is an option for that14:50
TheSheepNumn: in the settings->appearance menu14:50
TheSheepthe 'toolbar style' option under 'settings' tab in 'appearance'14:51
Numnoh ok.. i didnt notice it.. but i use xubuntu right now.. i liked it before i didnt it was possible i think i change back then :D14:54
Numni dont use xubuntu right now*14:54
TheSheepthis option was always there14:55
Numnok i maybe be in the wrong place.. but lubuntu have the feature and i like xubuntu... i need xubuntu that way cus my computer kinda small to fit that much windows.. if you understand what i mean?14:56
Sysiif you want taskbar to show only buttons, right-click  → preferences → uncheck "show button title" (on 11.04, with older ones you replace window buttons with iconbox-plugin)14:59
knomehuh15:02
knomesome bug in irssi15:02
knome/redraw fixed15:02
SysiCtrl L helps usually with screen15:02
Numnonly icons not any text.. but ok.. i should be ready to replace the lubuntu with xubuntu.. :)15:03
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s1m0neIn Ubuntu (GNOME) I could use the middle mouse button for scrolling in Firefox. In Xubuntu (XFCE) i cannot. Is there a way?15:43
s1m0neI already tried to change some Firefox settings, but nothing works. Seems to be an XFCE thing15:44
charlie-tcaactivate it in firefox preferences?15:44
s1m0neSettings are the same now as in my Firefox under GNOME15:44
s1m0neoh15:45
charlie-tcaFirefox -> Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced, general, Use smooth scrolling15:45
s1m0nethere was  one setting (general.autoScroll) I missed that15:45
s1m0nethx15:46
s1m0neFirefox -> Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced, general, Use auto-scrolling is the right one15:46
SysiI wish I could do that smooth scroll with mouse/touchpad (like on mac)15:47
charlie-tcaI don't know what that is. I don't seem to have a mac15:47
Sysilike that firefox scroll, but happening when you scroll15:48
TheSheepSysi: I have a mac and I don't even know what you mean15:48
TheSheepSysi: scroll happening when you scroll?15:48
TheSheepSysi: that's unnatural!15:48
Sysismooth scroll, not per-line scroll15:48
charlie-tcamine already scrolls15:48
charlie-tcaoh, that15:49
charlie-tcayes, that would be nice15:49
TheSheepSysi: your mouse sends clicks when you scroll15:49
Sysiit doesn't happen with regular mouse on mac propably, mice don't support it15:49
TheSheepSysi: so how would you get a smooth position?15:49
charlie-tcayou don't. You might end up on a half line instead of the line itself15:50
SysiTheSheep: it's the same with touchpad?15:50
TheSheepSysi: yes if you listen to the system events as you should15:50
TheSheepSysi: no if you write your own touchpad driver15:50
Sysinow that sounds like fun15:51
TheSheepdoesn't it?15:51
TheSheepmac's drivers probably do it differently15:52
Sysiit or something quite similar could work with some obscure settings..15:54
charlie-tcaSysi: if you do find a way, let me know too, huh?15:54
Sysican do15:54
Sysieven then it would propably be sensible only with touchpad, and you'd need different settings for every touchpad15:55
SysiI'n need to check if it work with trackball on mac15:55
TheSheepor you could invent fractional clicks <1.25 wink>15:59
SysiI think xorg doesn't support smaller than one line scroll distance16:00
TheSheepyou can tell it how much to scroll per click16:02
TheSheepand that may be fractional16:02
TheSheepbut then it gets slower16:02
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X-Hunterhello18:29
charlie-tca!hi | X-Hunter18:30
ubottuX-Hunter: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!18:30
X-Huntersup18:30
X-Hunterso anyway, if i power off while a live cd is loading, are there any consequences?18:31
charlie-tcanope18:31
X-Huntercool18:31
X-Huntercuz my cd was taking forever to boot18:31
charlie-tcaAlthough if the live cd started installing, it would be bad18:31
X-Huntero yea18:31
X-Hunterbut i only run demos18:32
X-Hunteri mostly work in windows18:32
X-Hunterlimited hdd space18:32
charlie-tcaThen it hurts nothing. The live session leaves the hard drive alone18:32
X-Hunterthx, just needed that question answered18:32
Sysi"presses the power button"18:33
charlie-tcayup18:33
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ChristopherNGHey guys!19:05
pteaguewhat desktop search is being used in natty for xubuntu?19:18
charlie-tcacatfish19:19
charlie-tcalisted under accessories in the menu19:19
pteaguewhat's the default backend that it uses to search? i'm asking because i had something eating up all my memory & shoving stuff into swap... i killed it earlier & then my system just locked up... wondering if it started up again & killed everything19:22
Sysiyou can set it to use few different ones19:23
pteaguei've not set it to use anything... hmm... went through the list of 'suggests' for catfish & none of them show up as being installed... weird... i may just have to generate a list of everything installed & look through that then19:25
pteaguefound it... tumbler19:38
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Sysitumbler draws thumbnails of images in thunar19:45
X-Hunterxubuntu rules!!!19:50
pteagueyeah, but why would tumbler eat 4gb of ram?19:52
TheSheepbecause it uses 3rd party programs and plugins, and not all of them behave as they should19:52
TheSheepin particular, some of the uglier video codecs can suddenly eat a lot of ram19:53
Sysior you have gazillion pics :p19:53
TheSheepSysi: well, gazillion of pics doesn't require a ot of ram when you make one thumbnail at a time19:53
Sysiwell that19:53
TheSheepalso, I hate tumbler with a passion, it made thunar almost as unresponsive as nautilus19:54
pteagueis there a way to get rid of tumbler then?19:54
TheSheepsure, together with thunar and most of xubuntu19:55
pteague*sigh* ok, then is there something i can use like thunar that doesn't insist on displaying the contents of every file?19:56
SysiTheSheep: it's tumbler that causes the lad when you delete files?19:57
Sysis/lad/lag19:57
Sysibecause that really sucks19:57
TheSheepno idea, did you report it?19:59
pteagueok, that seems much better... there's an option in thunar so you can turn off thumbnails... seems to not load tumbler20:00
pteaguetime to reboot for new kernel...20:02
jrmyback20:16
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Numnsomebody that know how i can change the toolbar in xubuntu to icon only  instad of text and icon?21:41
Numnok nvm :P found it21:43
BSODLOLI just dropped in to say "Oh HI!" but now I'm off to bed so... GOODBYE! <322:41
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