[02:54] <peperina> hi
[02:54] <peperina> anybody out there?
[02:54] <lighta> hi peperina yeah ?
[02:55] <peperina> hey there, i'm having some trouble here
[02:55] <peperina> and i needed some help
[02:55] <peperina> i just installed xubuntu 11.04
[02:56] <lighta> and ?
[02:56] <peperina> and when i try to install any program at ubuntu software center
[02:56] <peperina> nothing happens
[02:56] <peperina> the install button goes back to normal and nothing happens =S
[02:56] <lighta> hmm, did you install it from bios ?
[02:56] <peperina> any thoughts?
[02:56] <lighta> as wubi ?
[02:56] <lighta> as usb ?
[02:57] <lighta> tell me more about your installation
[02:57] <peperina> I installed it from cd (i already have installed ubuntu also)
[02:58] <peperina> i installed it along with ubunu, intoanother partition
[02:58] <lighta> ah ok so it's a good install my first guess was that it wasn't a permanent version so it would be normal if you couldn't install any software
[02:58] <lighta> hmm so
[02:58] <lighta> and I guess you're a sudouser ?
[02:59] <peperina> i think so.. being sincere, 3 days ago I was using windows, and I said "I need linux", and here I am
[02:59] <peperina> I'm getting involved with this yet
[03:00] <peperina> but i think i'm a sudo user, (I used commands reccomended in forums starting with sudo and they worked)
[03:11] <peperina> I just solved it, using sudo software-center
[03:11] <peperina> thanks anyway!
[03:15] <bazhang> does xubuntu use gksudo/gksu? or something else
[13:36] <xrdodrx> bazhang: xubuntu uses gksu
[13:43] <bazhang> xrdodrx, thanks
[13:43] <knome> afaik gksudo is as good as gksu
[13:47] <xrdodrx> w/ 1
[14:22] <Sysi> iirc in ubuntu they're just alias to each other
[14:22] <Sysi> !graphicalsudo
[14:22] <Sysi> hrm, what was it
[14:23] <Sysi> !gksu
[14:23] <Inglar> это русски?
[14:24] <Sysi> !ru
[14:45] <Numn> anybody know if its possible too only show the icons instead of the text on the menu if you understand what i mean
[14:45] <TheSheep> you could probably modify a gtk theme like that
[14:48] <Numn> so i cant do that.. if i dont do that you told me=
[14:49] <TheSheep> there may be other ways, but there is no option like that anywhere in the settings
[14:50] <TheSheep> Numn: wait, I assume you are talking about the applications menu
[14:50] <TheSheep> Numn: if you mean the toolbars, then of course there is an option for that
[14:50] <TheSheep> Numn: in the settings->appearance menu
[14:51] <TheSheep> the 'toolbar style' option under 'settings' tab in 'appearance'
[14:54] <Numn> oh ok.. i didnt notice it.. but i use xubuntu right now.. i liked it before i didnt it was possible i think i change back then :D
[14:54] <Numn> i dont use xubuntu right now*
[14:55] <TheSheep> this option was always there
[14:56] <Numn> ok i maybe be in the wrong place.. but lubuntu have the feature and i like xubuntu... i need xubuntu that way cus my computer kinda small to fit that much windows.. if you understand what i mean?
[14:59] <Sysi> if you want taskbar to show only buttons, right-click  → preferences → uncheck "show button title" (on 11.04, with older ones you replace window buttons with iconbox-plugin)
[15:02] <knome> huh
[15:02] <knome> some bug in irssi
[15:02] <knome> /redraw fixed
[15:02] <Sysi> Ctrl L helps usually with screen
[15:03] <Numn> only icons not any text.. but ok.. i should be ready to replace the lubuntu with xubuntu.. :)
[15:43] <s1m0ne> In Ubuntu (GNOME) I could use the middle mouse button for scrolling in Firefox. In Xubuntu (XFCE) i cannot. Is there a way?
[15:44] <s1m0ne> I already tried to change some Firefox settings, but nothing works. Seems to be an XFCE thing
[15:44] <charlie-tca> activate it in firefox preferences?
[15:44] <s1m0ne> Settings are the same now as in my Firefox under GNOME
[15:45] <s1m0ne> oh
[15:45] <charlie-tca> Firefox -> Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced, general, Use smooth scrolling
[15:45] <s1m0ne> there was  one setting (general.autoScroll) I missed that
[15:46] <s1m0ne> thx
[15:46] <s1m0ne> Firefox -> Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced, general, Use auto-scrolling is the right one
[15:47] <Sysi> I wish I could do that smooth scroll with mouse/touchpad (like on mac)
[15:47] <charlie-tca> I don't know what that is. I don't seem to have a mac
[15:48] <Sysi> like that firefox scroll, but happening when you scroll
[15:48] <TheSheep> Sysi: I have a mac and I don't even know what you mean
[15:48] <TheSheep> Sysi: scroll happening when you scroll?
[15:48] <TheSheep> Sysi: that's unnatural!
[15:48] <Sysi> smooth scroll, not per-line scroll
[15:48] <charlie-tca> mine already scrolls
[15:49] <charlie-tca> oh, that
[15:49] <charlie-tca> yes, that would be nice
[15:49] <TheSheep> Sysi: your mouse sends clicks when you scroll
[15:49] <Sysi> it doesn't happen with regular mouse on mac propably, mice don't support it
[15:49] <TheSheep> Sysi: so how would you get a smooth position?
[15:50] <charlie-tca> you don't. You might end up on a half line instead of the line itself
[15:50] <Sysi> TheSheep: it's the same with touchpad?
[15:50] <TheSheep> Sysi: yes if you listen to the system events as you should
[15:50] <TheSheep> Sysi: no if you write your own touchpad driver
[15:51] <Sysi> now that sounds like fun
[15:51] <TheSheep> doesn't it?
[15:52] <TheSheep> mac's drivers probably do it differently
[15:54] <Sysi> it or something quite similar could work with some obscure settings..
[15:54] <charlie-tca> Sysi: if you do find a way, let me know too, huh?
[15:54] <Sysi> can do
[15:55] <Sysi> even then it would propably be sensible only with touchpad, and you'd need different settings for every touchpad
[15:55] <Sysi> I'n need to check if it work with trackball on mac
[15:59] <TheSheep> or you could invent fractional clicks <1.25 wink>
[16:00] <Sysi> I think xorg doesn't support smaller than one line scroll distance
[16:02] <TheSheep> you can tell it how much to scroll per click
[16:02] <TheSheep> and that may be fractional
[16:02] <TheSheep> but then it gets slower
[18:29] <X-Hunter> hello
[18:30] <charlie-tca> !hi | X-Hunter
[18:30] <X-Hunter> sup
[18:31] <X-Hunter> so anyway, if i power off while a live cd is loading, are there any consequences?
[18:31] <charlie-tca> nope
[18:31] <X-Hunter> cool
[18:31] <X-Hunter> cuz my cd was taking forever to boot
[18:31] <charlie-tca> Although if the live cd started installing, it would be bad
[18:31] <X-Hunter> o yea
[18:32] <X-Hunter> but i only run demos
[18:32] <X-Hunter> i mostly work in windows
[18:32] <X-Hunter> limited hdd space
[18:32] <charlie-tca> Then it hurts nothing. The live session leaves the hard drive alone
[18:32] <X-Hunter> thx, just needed that question answered
[18:33] <Sysi> "presses the power button"
[18:33] <charlie-tca> yup
[19:05] <ChristopherNG> Hey guys!
[19:18] <pteague> what desktop search is being used in natty for xubuntu?
[19:19] <charlie-tca> catfish
[19:19] <charlie-tca> listed under accessories in the menu
[19:22] <pteague> what's the default backend that it uses to search? i'm asking because i had something eating up all my memory & shoving stuff into swap... i killed it earlier & then my system just locked up... wondering if it started up again & killed everything
[19:23] <Sysi> you can set it to use few different ones
[19:25] <pteague> i've not set it to use anything... hmm... went through the list of 'suggests' for catfish & none of them show up as being installed... weird... i may just have to generate a list of everything installed & look through that then
[19:38] <pteague> found it... tumbler
[19:45] <Sysi> tumbler draws thumbnails of images in thunar
[19:50] <X-Hunter> xubuntu rules!!!
[19:52] <pteague> yeah, but why would tumbler eat 4gb of ram?
[19:52] <TheSheep> because it uses 3rd party programs and plugins, and not all of them behave as they should
[19:53] <TheSheep> in particular, some of the uglier video codecs can suddenly eat a lot of ram
[19:53] <Sysi> or you have gazillion pics :p
[19:53] <TheSheep> Sysi: well, gazillion of pics doesn't require a ot of ram when you make one thumbnail at a time
[19:53] <Sysi> well that
[19:54] <TheSheep> also, I hate tumbler with a passion, it made thunar almost as unresponsive as nautilus
[19:54] <pteague> is there a way to get rid of tumbler then?
[19:55] <TheSheep> sure, together with thunar and most of xubuntu
[19:56] <pteague> *sigh* ok, then is there something i can use like thunar that doesn't insist on displaying the contents of every file?
[19:57] <Sysi> TheSheep: it's tumbler that causes the lad when you delete files?
[19:57] <Sysi> s/lad/lag
[19:57] <Sysi> because that really sucks
[19:59] <TheSheep> no idea, did you report it?
[20:00] <pteague> ok, that seems much better... there's an option in thunar so you can turn off thumbnails... seems to not load tumbler
[20:02] <pteague> time to reboot for new kernel...
[20:16] <jrmy> back
[21:41] <Numn> somebody that know how i can change the toolbar in xubuntu to icon only  instad of text and icon?
[21:43] <Numn> ok nvm :P found it
[22:41] <BSODLOL> I just dropped in to say "Oh HI!" but now I'm off to bed so... GOODBYE! <3