[00:01] <Snowhog> jmichaelx: Well, a yakuake session and a konsole session are different. What you need to do is look at the configuration file for yakute since you upgrade to determine if the settings have changed.
[00:02] <Terbaddo_> How to create an user with no password, in kubuntu ?
[00:02] <jmichaelx> Snowhog: at this point, i am not sure how i would have anything to compare my current files with
[00:02] <James147> Terbaddo_: you shouldnt... a better approch is to create a user and let kdm log them in without a password
[00:02] <Snowhog> Terbaddo_: Not possible. A password has to be created, but you can set that new user up for automatic login via KDM.
[00:03] <James147> Snowhog: you sure it not possible?
[00:03] <Terbaddo_> I know that it's not possible, but I think KDM can log an user without pw
[00:03] <Snowhog> James147: Not 100% sure, but I think it is the case.
[00:04] <James147> Snowhog: well passwd wont let you :)
[00:04] <Terbaddo_> (it's not a sudoer :D )
[00:04] <Snowhog> James147: Concider the vulnerabilty of ones OS if it was possible!
[00:05]  * James147 wonders how the live cd works
[00:06] <Terbaddo_> So, how to allow KDM to log my user without needing to enter the password ?
[00:06] <James147> Snowhog: though it isnt stright forward if it is possible :D
[00:06] <Snowhog> James147: The LiveCD is already running 'by default' as root. But because it's from a CD/DVD, no changes can be written, so can't be retained.
[00:07] <James147> Snowhog: ^^ hmm the arch disk lets you log in without a password as root :p
[00:07] <Snowhog> James147: At least, that's how I understand it.
[00:08] <Snowhog> James147: Arch isn't Ubuntu/Kubuntu - their philosphy on Root isn't that of Canonical.
[00:09] <James147> Snowhog: yeah, but they share the same unix style login, so if its possible on arch it should be possible on kubuntu (is what i was getting at)
[00:09] <James147> ^^ not that I am suggesting it a good idea :) I am just curious now
[00:13] <Snowhog> James147: On Kubuntu (heck, all the Canonical *buntus) the root account is disabled by default - one has to activate it after an OS installation. One would then be able to configure the Login to 'auto login' the Root user.
[00:14] <James147> Snowhog: dosnt really matter...was using it as an example of a passwordless login (on command line)
[00:16] <Snowhog> James147: Because I understand the risk enherent in running 'as root' or logging in 'as root', and I don't care that in *buntu Canonical has chosen to 'protect the user from themselves' - I can gain the permissions 'when needed' and I'm more than comfortable with that.
[00:19] <James147> Snowhog: seems it is possible.. (to ahve a user with out a password) but involves editing the configs for PAM :)
[00:26] <Snowhog> James147: That is the power of Linux - that the user *can*, given the knowledge, can tweek it to their liking. :)
[00:26] <James147> Snowhog: yup :)
[00:26] <James147> Snowhog: though its still a stupid thing to do on a desktop computer
[00:51] <bhakta> hello?
[00:53] <bhakta> is this a technical help chat?
[00:54] <well_laid_lawn> it surely is - for kubuntu
[00:56] <bhakta> great thank you.
[00:57] <bhakta> i could use a bit of assistance...
[01:59] <U236Willy> ignore #kubuntu JOINS QUITS PARTS
[01:59] <U236Willy> crap
[01:59] <U236Willy> better... sorry
[02:01] <rww> hehe
[02:16] <kamil> xxxxxxxxx
[02:38] <Drakmor> Hey, I've been fiddling around with dual monitors, andI'm having some issues.... it displays fine, but kubuntu's system settings say the monitor is 2994x1080, so my fullscreen apps run at the wrong resolution because the screen is actually 1920x1080.
[02:39] <Drakmor> The screen looks fine though, so I'm pretty sure its running at the right resolution.
[02:39] <Drakmor> Any idea how to get kubuntu to detect the correct res?
[03:17] <valorie> !resolution
[03:18] <valorie> ah, he left
[04:19] <bhakta> hi, I entered a new thread on LinuxQuestions yesterday morning, and no reply yet. I am just a day from moving out of the country, so I am anxious to fix my fat32 partition problem. Can anyone help with this?
[04:22] <bhakta> In a nutshell, I can not access my fat32 partition at all. In another machine, I had it set up nice.
[04:25] <bhakta> oh, the thread with my detailed query is at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4448590#post4448590
[05:08] <U236Willy> I'm not sure of all the 'ins and outs' but what I do know is... kubuntu tends to be way more finicky and secure when it comes to drives. Ubuntu (GDM/unity) with nautilus has a better working arrangement with swappable drives.
[05:09] <U236Willy> i have to actually mount my ipod in dolphin in order for amarok to see it.
[05:09] <U236Willy> in banshee and ubuntu... it loads without any extra prodding.
[05:09] <U236Willy> ... that's all i know.
[06:54] <ssfdre38> hey how can i resize my bottom bar to match my screen width
[07:09] <valorie> ssfdre38: isn't it automatically the right width?
[07:09] <valorie> you might want to do a screenshot of what you have?
[07:10] <ssfdre38> nope its staying at 1024 and not going to 1366
[07:10] <valorie> weird
[07:11] <valorie> I think I might just ditch it and make a new one
[07:11] <valorie> I've had to do that a couple of times in the last few years with messed up toolbars
[07:11] <rww> click the cashew on the right side of the bottom bar, drag the relevant arrow to the edge of the screen?
[07:11] <ssfdre38> its the default one
[07:11] <rww> or am I misunderstanding?
[07:11] <ssfdre38> http://images.ssfdre38.com/?v=FgrQ7.png
[07:12] <ssfdre38> that is what is going on
[07:13] <ssfdre38> i am doing a dual screen just so you know if that is what your wondering
[07:17] <ssfdre38> do you see what i mean?
[07:19] <valorie> yes, did you try what rww suggested?
[07:20] <ssfdre38> yup doesnt want to drag
[07:24] <valorie> well then, I would delete it, and do another
[07:24] <valorie> they are rather easy to create
[07:28] <avihay> question... how do I get plasmate from kde's git?
[07:28] <ssfdre38> yea i just didnt want to do that
[07:29] <ssfdre38> hey look IPv6
[07:29] <valorie> avihay: you want to build from source?
[07:30] <avihay> not really, but I think it can't be helped
[07:30] <valorie> http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[07:30] <avihay> didn't find a package in the officiall repositories
[07:31] <valorie> for an application it isn't very difficult
[07:31] <valorie> I'm not very technical, and I build a few for testing
[07:31] <ssfdre38> ohh do you know why when i get new log-in themes it doesnt want to install to the control panel
[07:33] <valorie> hmmm, you might want to look at this, avihay: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/diego_casella/1
[07:33] <valorie> it's a GSoC project this summer
[07:33] <valorie> pencils down is just this week
[07:34] <valorie> ah, and it doesn't look like that proposal was accepted
[07:34] <avihay> I've gotten the svn version, it only contained a readme sayiong we moved to git
[07:34] <valorie> although s/he could have done it for Season of KDE
[07:38] <valorie> http://community.kde.org/Plasma/PlasMate is the most up-to-date thing I see, besides the GSoC proposal
[07:38] <avihay> valorie: thanks, I followed a set of link, and one search to get to here: https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/plasmate/repository
[07:38] <valorie> between my link and yours, you should have enough to go on
[07:38] <valorie> good luck!
[07:39] <valorie> Playground is not official, but not unofficial either
[07:40] <ssfdre38> its that gray line
[07:40] <avihay> need to mess around with my theme... have color issues :->
[07:40]  * valorie just loves oxygen
[07:40] <valorie> bog standard
[07:41] <avihay> it wastes too much taskbar space to my likeing
[07:43] <avihay> humm, maybe I can just get the color settings from it...
[07:53] <kobus_> anybody who can explain how the networkmanager in kde 4.6 works?
[07:55] <kobus_> James 147: are you online?
[07:57] <jorrik> how would i go about making ALT+Q the way to close an application across KDE? is it possible using the input actions configurator?
[08:01] <avihay> jorrik: umm, should be, try system settings->shortcuts and gestures->global keyboard shortcuts, selekt kde component kwin, look at the 4th item in the action list
[08:05] <kobus_> is there anybody that uses Kubuntu 11.04?
[08:05] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Linux 2.6.38-11-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.7.00 (4.7.0), CPU: AMD Turion X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-74 at 550 MHz (4389 bogomips), HD: 239/363GB, RAM: 3605/3708MB, 200 proc's, 11.44h up
[08:06] <valorie> hmmm, that didn't say, sorry
[08:06] <valorie> but yes
[08:06] <avihay> kobus_: yes
[08:06] <valorie> I've been very happy with it
[08:08] <IdleOne> valorie: try /sys -p Distro
[08:08] <IdleOne> depends on which version of sysinfo script you're using
[08:08] <valorie> right, I think that depends on the client
[08:08] <venkata> yes @kobus i am using kubuntu 11.04
[08:09] <valorie> I used /sysinfo in Konversation
[08:09] <IdleOne> ah, nm.
[08:09] <valorie> it doesn't know /sys
[08:10] <kobus_> i don't understand the networkmanager app in 11.04. i go to the manager and add my wireless network, but i can't see how i can connect to it
[08:10] <venkata> is it showing ur conn in the available connections list
[08:11] <venkata> in tray networking icon
[08:11] <kobus_> on the left it shows the interfaces and on the right connections with an edit box "Enter network name and press <enter>"
[08:11] <avihay> ok, the networkmanager has two "faces" the qt config dialog, and tha plasma applet.
[08:12] <avihay> umm, do you see the wireless interface?
[08:12] <kobus_> i'm talking about the plasma applet
[08:12] <kobus_> yes, the "WLAN interface" is shown on the left
[08:13] <kobus_> what is the purpose of the edit box under connections?
[08:14] <kobus_> i've added my connection in the "Manage Connections" dialog, but it isn't listed on the right under connections. i though it would...
[08:16] <venkata> edit box is for setting preferences or properties for the connection like dhcp or static ip address etc., including credentials
[08:17] <kobus_> venkata: i don't understand, is there a doc somewhere explaining?
[08:17] <venkata> have u configured the connection.. in managed connections... if d connection is a default connection then , it wont show in list of conns
[08:18] <kobus_> i've added the connection, i've tried specifying "Connect automatically" as well, but it doesn't show
[08:19] <venkata> can u click on show more button on plasma widget
[08:21] <kobus_> yes, then it show the neighbours wifi network. My router is set to not "show" the network name. but i've been using it like this with Kubuntu 10.04
[08:21] <venkata> network manager applet is seems not responding to changes some times... logout and login again may solve the issue..
[08:22] <venkata> or change to another plasmoid for networks
[08:23] <kobus_> i did restart. why does Kubuntu ship with a broken network manager...
[08:23] <kobus_> which plasmoid do you recommend
[08:26] <kobus_> i get the impression nobody in the kubuntu community uses a standard setup. it seems a lot of the standard components are broken. is that impression correct?
[08:27] <Shirakawasuna> networkmanager plasmoid works fine for me
[08:28] <Shirakawasuna> have you clicked 'show more', kobus_?
[08:28] <valorie> I use pretty much standard everything
[08:28] <valorie> well, I do use FF more than Rekonq
[08:29] <Shirakawasuna> chromium ftw
[08:29] <Shirakawasuna> particularly when netflix starts working with it... eventually
[08:29] <valorie> I keep trying it, but FF keeps pulling me back
[08:29] <kobus_> if i click on shpw more, the connections pane gets a horizontal scroll bar
[08:30] <kobus_> this is a screenshot of what i see if i open the applet: http://imagebin.org/168938
[08:31] <valorie> If you "manage collections" and click the scan button, does it pick anything up?
[08:32] <valorie> normally I would just click the WLAN interface, but with only "hidden network" showing, not sure what you would connect to
[08:32] <valorie> unless you have set up that hidden network yourself
[08:33] <kobus_> no, because i don't "broadcast" the network name. but i do the same on 10.04. i set up a connection with the correct network details. i've done this in kubuntu 10.04, an android phone and an ipad.
[08:33] <kobus_> i create a connection, but the connection doesn't show
[08:36] <kobus_> this is where i created the connection, i tried doing it twice to see if it would make a difference: http://imagebin.org/168942
[08:37] <kobus_> shouldn't these connection show on the right hand of the applet?
[08:40] <kobus_> most of the time i just see the edit box, but sometimes (not often) i get the "hidden network" and sometimes the neighbour's network
[08:42] <kobus_> any user documentation on the network mananger? i will try to search again
[08:49] <valorie> http://userbase.kde.org/NetworkManagement
[08:52] <kobus_> valorie: thanks
[08:52] <valorie> hope it helps
[08:52] <valorie> if not, try WicD
[08:53] <valorie> that's my fallback if knm is acting up with my system
[08:53] <valorie> haven't had to use it often, but it was a lifesaver at one point
[08:54] <kobus_> valorie: ok, is it in the repos?
[08:55] <valorie> yes
[10:11] <rhkfin> Is anyone able to see NEF (=Nikon RAW, x-nikon-nef) images in Gwenview?
[10:21] <OerHeks> rhkfin, rawstudio can handle x-nikon-nef, if i remember correct.
[10:25] <rhkfin> OerHeks: I'm not talking about RAW processing but browsing. Dolphin knows how to load the (low-res) preview of NEF, Gwenview just shows an error.
[10:26] <OerHeks> Gwenview is just a simple image vieuwer, i think
[10:29] <rhkfin> OerHeks: yes and no - but I can't see why that should limit it from viewing RAW images
[10:33] <OerHeks> rhkfin, ah found it, install kipi plugins
[10:33] <fachher> Hello everybody
[10:33] <fachher> I've got some problems with Ubuntu 11.04 hope someone can help me
[10:34] <fachher> I lost my connection to the wlan router after a couple of minutes
[10:34] <OerHeks> fachher welcome in Kubuntu support
[10:35] <fachher> Hello OerHeks
[10:38] <OerHeks> fachher what WLan device do you use ? i'm no Wifi wizzkid but i can try.
[10:38] <fachher> Atheros
[10:38] <fachher> I do not have any Problems with 10.04
[10:39] <fachher> But with 11.04 If got problems with my wlan
[10:40] <OerHeks> could it be the infrastructure, are there more WLans in your neighborhood om the same 'channel' ?
[10:40] <fachher> I have read many threats on the internet. But do not found something for me
[10:41] <fachher> I found some hints but it doesn't help me
[10:43] <fachher> Okay I think I am going to reinstall Ubuntu 10.04
[10:46] <OerHeks> IPv6 is supported by default in Ubuntu and can sometimes cause problems.
[10:46] <OerHeks> oh
[11:17] <adilson> alguém sabe como configurar o USB para iniciar mais rápido?
[11:25] <Guest56190> ok
[11:51] <krise> Hello
[11:51] <krise> i need help
[11:52] <krise> can anybody help me to install need for speed reloaded
[11:52] <krise> i have a iso file
[11:52] <krise> kubuntu 11.04
[11:53] <krise> what programs do i need and what i have to doo
[12:25] <James147> krise: ^^ you need wine to run windows programs
[12:25] <James147> !wine | krise
[12:26] <krise> James147 i installed wine, but when im tryng to run it does not doo anything
[12:26] <krise> it wont start
[12:27] <James147> !winedb | krise
[12:27] <bazhang> !appdb | krise
[12:27] <James147> bazhang:  :)
[12:27] <bazhang> krise, /join #winehq for help with that
[12:27] <bazhang> James147, hey
[12:28] <James147> krise:  ^^ look for the application on there to see if it will run and follow any instructions they have... not all programs work well under wine
[12:34] <krise> im newbe , i dont understan what i have to doo
[12:35] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org    <------ krise
[12:35] <bazhang> krise, check that
[12:35] <krise> ok, got that
[12:35] <bazhang> krise, then ---->   /join #winehq
[12:35] <krise> did that
[12:35] <bazhang> ask there
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:28] <rethus> how can i configure my new graphic-card with kubuntu?
[13:28] <mfraz74> rethus: what graphic card is it?
[13:28] <rethus> ati 5450
[13:29] <mfraz74> what do you want to configure?
[13:29] <rethus> before i had a nvidia.... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg doesn't work... only sleep 1 second, and show cli again
[13:29] <rethus> now i have manualy edit xorg.conf and set it to vesa
[13:30] <rethus> now i need to use ati-driver
[13:30] <rethus> mfraz74: any idea
[13:33] <rethus> how can i install the ati-drivers
[13:34] <James147> !ati | rethus
[13:49] <rethus> have now installed the catalyst from ati-page and reboot now
[13:49] <rethus> will see, if comes up again :)
[13:51] <rethus> James147: no, have now show Kubuntu 11.04 load.screen... shows root-login shortly and now shows Some Starting-messages... last is "Checking Battery state" and freezed
[13:51] <rethus> any idea
[13:58] <rethus> can anybody help me?
[13:59] <dragast> umm hello?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> rethus, is catalyst the actual driver or is it a control gui ?
[13:59] <rethus> i don't know... how can i check
[13:59] <rethus> i download the ati catalyst driver and install it... reboot and system is crashed now
[14:00] <dragast> I just installed Kubuntu, (yes I was a windows user), but I have a problem with the wifi
[14:00] <rethus> if i start up (savemode)and have a look in xorg.conf i see flgrx
[14:00] <anthony_> Hi.  I can't seem to get a microphone working when i'm using KDE.  (works fine in gnome)--  I think something with pulse audio.
[14:01] <anthony_> (trying to use a mic in skype)
[14:01] <BluesKaj> rethus, I think fglrx is the driver
[14:02] <BluesKaj> anthony_, fyi , i haven't had much luck with pulseaudio on kde
[14:02] <rethus> BluesKaj: what for driver.. which break the system!?
[14:02] <dragast> so, can I get some assistance here?
[14:02] <anthony_> BluesKaj:  I think i need to change to another audio program?  how do i do that?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> dragast, which wifi chip ?
[14:03] <anthony_> (just defaults to pulse audio)
[14:03] <rethus> anthony_: install pavucontroll and set the audio-channelsettings
[14:03] <anthony_> rethus: thanks. i'll try that, now.
[14:04] <dragast> umm I have a usb stick TP-Link TL-WN821N
[14:05] <James147> dragast: you havent said what problem you are having... we cannot help without that info
[14:06] <BluesKaj> rethus, did you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after installing the driver ?
[14:06] <rethus> no
[14:07] <dragast_> Well the problem is that I have a wi-fi connection going here, but it seems to go veeery slow after just a few secs and then it becomes totally unusable
[14:08] <James147> dragast_: sounds more like a hardware issue to me ^^ are you located far from the source (behind walls or anything?)
[14:08] <dragast_> P.S I have configured my Wi-Fi usb to my exact same settings as in Windows (where I have blazingly fast speed) but something seems to be amiss
[14:08] <James147> hmm
[14:08] <BluesKaj> then you should , rethus
[14:10] <dragast_> there should not be a problem with the range, since as I mentioned it before the thing works just fine in Windows
[14:10] <James147> dragast_: yeah :)
[14:11] <James147> not sure sorry, though I dont have any experince with usb wireless cards
[14:12] <James147> !wifi | dragast_
[14:12] <James147> ^^ you could try reading through taht though i dont know how much help itb will be
[14:12]  * BluesKaj despises knetworkmanager ... dragast_ , i have a usb wifi adapter , not the same as your , but wicd-kde is the only networkmanager app that makes it work
[14:13] <nfrs> how do you disable pulseaudio? I don't want to remove the packages, as there are packages that depend on it. just to disable it, so that all my apps use alsa
[14:13] <James147> BluesKaj: knetwrok manager is depracated ... later version of kubntu use the network widget instead
[14:15] <BluesKaj> nfrs, I purged pulseaudio without any ill effects ..alsa does the job just fine...pulseaudio is just a soundserver running on top of alsa
[14:15] <nfrs> BluesKaj: yes, yes. now how do I disable it without removing the packages?
[14:15] <BluesKaj> nfrs, what packages?
[14:16] <nfrs> BluesKaj: the pulseaudio-related packages
[14:18] <BluesKaj> nfrs, be assured you don't need "pulseaudio related packages" for your audio system to work properly.
[14:18] <nfrs> *sigh*
[14:19] <nfrs> [17:13:12] <nfrs> ... I don't want to remove the packages, as there are packages that depend on it.  ...
[14:19] <linux-beginner-h> how can I move my mails from kmail to kmail2? I tried different ways... but no one has done the job
[14:19] <BluesKaj> yup, sigh if you want but if you think you need them then someone has misinformed you
[14:19] <linux-beginner-h> => import messages... crashed (out of memory)
[14:20] <linux-beginner-h> => KMail Maildir resources... loaded all my mails... but was unable to move this messages to the Local Folders Resource...
[14:20] <nfrs> BluesKaj: do you know about package dependencies. imagine this: I have a package that specifies pulseaudio as its dependency. removing pulseaudio and not removing that package is impossible without breaking the package repository
[14:21] <nfrs> s/repository/database/
[14:21] <BluesKaj> nfrs, you mean skype ?
[14:21] <nfrs> BluesKaj: no, other program
[14:22] <BluesKaj> what other program ?
[14:24] <dragast> I don't know what happened but I had to restart Linux, because it became unresponsive
[14:27] <nfrs> BluesKaj: mumble
[14:27] <dragast> So I am back, at least for now
[14:28] <BluesKaj> nfrs, if you just remove pulseaudio all the config files are still left behind, including the required libpulse files
[14:30] <dragast> oh hell maybe Kubuntu wasn't for me, I am open for suggestions on a different Linux distro
[14:51] <thangavel> problem in repairing the pendrive's ms dos filesystem..while trying dosfsck..i got as "Both FATs appear to be corrupt. Giving up."
[14:52] <thangavel> join #ubuntu
[14:57] <thangavel> problem in repairing the pendrive's ms dos filesystem..while trying dosfsck..i got as "Both FATs appear to be corrupt. Giving up." how to recover it now??
[15:00] <rethus1> how can i activate 3d on ati 5450?
[15:00] <rethus1> i have the natty-default driver (not the catalyst binary)
[15:02] <BluesKaj> rethus1, are desktop effects enabled ?
[15:06] <rethus1> was before...
[15:06] <rethus1> but also minecraft (java 3d game) crash on startup
[15:09] <rethus1> now i try to install catalyst with additional Drivers
[15:09] <rethus1> maybe this works... before i installed a downloaded, that crash my system
[15:09] <BluesKaj> system setting>desktop effects>adavanced , enable direct rendering
[15:11] <rethus1> like i told before. it was aktivated
[15:11] <rethus1> didn't work... for now
[15:11] <rethus1> now catalyst seems to installed... i try to reboot now
[15:24] <rethus1> k now, i have installed catalyst, and it works... but my widescreen has now a "not aspect ratio" view
[15:24] <rethus1> how can i set it to right wiev
[15:26] <rethus1> i have set it to 1920x1080 (right resolution) but its streched
[15:28] <rethus1> have found it, works now
[15:33] <rethus1> 3d works now
[15:33] <rethus1> additional drivers has installed catalyst 8 instead 11
[15:43] <Duolos> Could someone suggest a good telnet client for accessing BBSes?
[15:44] <thangavel> #ubuntu
[15:54] <nfrs> hi
[15:54] <nfrs> I've got not sound with microphone. using just alsa
[15:57] <BluesKaj> did you check alsamixer settings , nfrs ?
[15:57] <nfrs> fixed with alsamixer
[15:57] <nfrs> :)
[15:57] <nfrs> for some reason it thought the channel was digital
[16:15] <thangavel> join ubuntu
[16:16] <Duolos> I'm having a problem with my sound in Kubuntu.  I can only control volume using alsamixer in the konsole.  My physical volume controls do nothing.  As well as trying to use Kmix to adjust.
[16:16] <thangavel> #ubuntu
[16:16]  * Duolos throws a golden calf at thangavel.
[16:17] <thangavel> ??
[16:18] <Duolos> Why the trolling?
[16:19] <mfraz74> Duolos: have you tried pulseaudio volume control?
[16:19] <Duolos> mfraz74: Yeah... no effect.
[16:20] <mfraz74> Duolos: which version of kubuntu?
[16:20] <Duolos> 11.04
[16:20] <mfraz74> have you tried system settings?
[16:21] <Duolos> The on-screen display shows when using my physical controls, but it doesn't actually change the volume at all.
[16:21] <mfraz74> ah, perhaps you need to change the master control
[16:21] <Duolos> mfraz74: Yeah, for a while my controls worked, but I couldn't get the volume above a whisper (at max).  Then I launched alsamixer and could boost the volume, but lost control lol
[16:23] <BluesKaj> Duolos, alsamixer didn't cause the loss of volume ctrl ..there's some other problem if your keyboard volume ctrls don't work
[16:24] <Duolos> BluesKaj: I don't know why alsamixer would cause the loss of control.  I just know that my controls worked right up until I ran alsamixer the first time.
[16:24] <Duolos> Perhaps I somehow changed devices that are being used for output?
[16:25] <darthanubis> why does the apply button not highlight when I tell muon to purge an application?
[16:25] <BluesKaj> Duolos, did you have pulseaudio installed
[16:25] <Duolos> I didn't specifically install it so unless it came in Kubuntu (which it used to), then no.
[16:25] <Duolos> Actually, yes, it's installed.
[16:25] <si-mon> I have to say Ive gone from gnome to KDE for my main desk top and LXDE for a more minimal one
[16:26] <BluesKaj> Duolos, look ib system settings multimedia phonon device list
[16:26] <BluesKaj> in
[16:26] <Duolos> BluesKaj: Just did.  There are two devices listed.  Internal and HDMI
[16:28] <BluesKaj> internal probly the one you want unless you're feeding a tv/audio amp thru hdmi
[16:29] <Duolos> BluesKaj: I'm not.  Internal is selected AND working.  I just can't adjust the volume at all unless I use alsamixer.  Even the volume control in the notification area has no effect.
[16:32] <BluesKaj> Duolos, what audio chip again ?
[16:33] <Duolos> hmm.. it's a Realtek.  I'll try to find the model
[16:33] <Duolos> Wow. I'm smart.
[16:33] <James147> Duolos: try the widget veromix
[16:33] <Duolos> Realtek is my network.
[16:34] <Duolos> Audio is a Radeon HD 4200 (RS880)
[16:34] <James147> Duolos: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=116676
[16:34] <BluesKaj> Radeon is your graphics card
[16:35] <Duolos> BluesKaj: lspci listed it as my audio device :-/
[16:35] <Duolos> Well, audio AND video device.
[16:35] <James147> Duolos: Probally because hdmi can also do audio
[16:36] <mfraz74> could that be why kmix can't control the volume, it is set for HDMI?
[16:36] <BluesKaj> Duolos, well it probly has  the hdmi audio out , but your primary soundcard is the intrernal one
[16:36] <Duolos> Ah... there's another audio device listed: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[16:37] <BluesKaj> Duolos, which card is listred in alsamixer?
[16:37] <Duolos> mfraz74: No, I have the internal chosen for audio in Phonon
[16:37] <James147> Duolos: try the veromix widget ^^
[16:38] <mfraz74> Duolos: but the mixer might be different
[16:38] <Duolos> BluesKaj: Ahhhhh.  Alsamixer lists the chip as the Realtek ALC270
[16:39] <Duolos> James147: I would use a widget except that I want to use my laptop's physical controls for it.  I don't want to have to click all over the place to adjust the volume, ya know?
[16:39] <linux-beginner-h> is there a wiki... how to import kmail maildir to kmail2?
[16:40] <mfraz74> what does your laptop's controls look like?
[16:40] <James147> Duolos: um, wigets can have keyboard shorcuts
[16:40] <Duolos> mfraz74: they're just additional keys at the top of my keyboard.
[16:40] <BluesKaj> Duolos, yes Intel uses the realtek chip
[16:40] <James147> Duolos: so are mine..
[16:41] <James147> Duolos: kmix just works off keyboard shorcuts exactly like the widget
[16:41] <Duolos> James147: Right... and kmix doesn't work lol
[16:41] <Duolos> I mean, I'm sure kmix works, but something got wonky here
[16:41] <James147> Duolos: TRY it... it dosnt take long
[16:42] <James147> Duolos: it is designed to work with pulseaudio unlike kmix
[16:43] <BluesKaj> Duolos, got pulseaudio ?
[16:43] <Duolos> BluesKaj: Yes.
[16:45] <BluesKaj> ok , try James147 's suggestion , if that doesn't work remove pulseaudio
[16:45] <Duolos> Oh, good grief.  I think I found it.
[16:46] <Duolos> Kmix switched to the HDMI device.
[16:46] <Duolos> I'm sorry for wasting your time, guys
[16:46] <BluesKaj> Duolos, how many ctrls show in alsamixer ?
[16:47] <Duolos> 7 under playback
[16:47] <BluesKaj> ok, good
[16:48] <mfraz74> Duolos: didn't i ask that question?
[16:48] <Duolos> mfraz74: I missed it, sorry.
[16:48] <Duolos> mfraz74: That's why I always add the user's name when addressing them :P
[16:49] <Duolos> Highlighting is awesome.
[16:49] <mfraz74> Duolos: I thought i did
[16:49] <Duolos> But yes, you did.  I see it now.
[16:49] <Duolos> uhm... and that's why I double-checked it? ;)
[16:50] <BluesKaj> mfraz74, it helps if you use the persons nick when asking or answering , so it highlights in his client chat text
[16:51] <BluesKaj> oops . I'll have to remind him again
[16:51] <Duolos> Anyway, thanks for you help, everyone.  You lead me in the right direction and all is right with the world again... well, kinda.
[16:55] <ares_> ciao
[17:00] <draik> How do I get my DNS to stay as Google's DNS?
[17:01] <Duolos> Is there any way to boost my volume beyond the "max?"
[17:01] <BluesKaj> draik, unless you use NM , add it in resolv,conf or your router settings
[17:02] <draik> I use NM
[17:02] <draik> BluesKaj: It re-writes it each time and sets it to just my 192.168.x.x
[17:04] <BluesKaj> what rewrites where ?
[17:05] <BluesKaj> the NM will rewrite it everytime
[17:06] <draik> How do I have NM keep Google DNS?
[17:07] <BluesKaj> unless you set your router dns server settings to  google dns (8.8.8.8) and (8.8.4.4) , without the brackets
[17:07] <draik> My router is using Google DNS
[17:08] <BluesKaj> draik, then that's all you need
[17:08] <draik> When I type anything into the address bar, it keeps going to my ISP for search results, even if I have everything set to Google.
[17:10] <BluesKaj> draik, you don't type the google dns into the addressbar , it's a setting in your router options page
[17:12] <BluesKaj> draik, type, route , in the terminal, that's you routers' IP , it should open a webpage that you can surf and set your router options
[17:20] <BluesKaj> draik, better yet use route -n , it gives the gateway IP, which is what you need to access the router settings
[17:42] <soee> is there any way to control cpu fan speed / some gui maybe?
[18:05] <ssfdre38> soee, why do you want to do that?
[18:09] <James147> soee: best place to set the cpu fan speed is in the bios...
[18:19] <cher> I have two problems with Kubuntu 11.04. The first problem is that when I do xwininfo to get the desktop window id, then recalc it to dec and then pass it to something like keuphoria.kss to run with --window-id, keuphoria.kss runs in foreground instead of background.
[18:20] <cher> The other is that when I have two windows, both with black background, one infront of the other, and I then reduce the front window's opacity from 100% to 70%, the background is dark grey instead of black.
[18:20] <cher> The graphics card is an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850, with the AMD driver.
[18:20] <cher> Any suggestions?
[18:44] <linux-beginner-h> which backend is better? xine or gstreamer?
[18:44] <bamcris> hi newbie here
[18:44] <bamcris> how do i view hardware info?
[18:45] <bamcris> im using natty unity
[18:45] <soee> i asked about fan speed because its to noisy, i had to slower it a bit, i did it using fancontrol
[18:51] <ssfdre38> well the KDE Desktop crashed and now i have a black border around everything how can i get that fixed
[19:27] <krise> Hello folks
[19:27] <krise> newbe need some help
[19:28] <krise> i have a tar.gz theme file, how do i install it
[19:28] <krise> kubuntu 11.04
[19:31] <draik> krise: You need to go into the System Settings for that. I don't recall if you can install a tarball or not, but you can untar it and proceed with the install.
[19:32] <krise> draik where do i have to extract the files
[19:38] <kyubutsu> krise: system settings>application appearance>colors
[19:39] <kyubutsu> then, import scheme
[19:40] <kyubutsu> or, system settings>workspace appereance>window decorations  to apply whole themes
[19:43] <kyubutsu> conversely, you may also try to drop the tar.gz file onto that settings window [window decorations] and it should auto install
[19:44] <krise> hm
[19:45] <krise> but do i heve to extract the tar.gz file first to somewhere?
[19:47] <krise> im confused
[19:48] <krise> i think that the import worked, i got it there
[19:48] <krise> but
[19:48] <krise> there is color themes
[19:48] <krise> i have a desktop theme
[19:48] <krise> nothing changed after i applyed my selection
[19:49] <krise> ok im good now
[19:49] <krise> got it
[19:49] <krise> done
[19:49] <krise> thank u guys
[20:22] <mehdi__> #mondorescue
[20:37] <ibrahim> hey
[21:04] <schijnndraeff> I had installed KDE on my system, decided I didn't like it, and uninstalled it.  Now DVD and audio playback aren't working.  I assume I uninstalled something I shouldn't have.  Can anyone help?
[21:07] <krise> hi
[21:07] <krise> how to i install .theme file
[21:07] <krise> i downladed mouse theme
[21:08] <krise> now i have a install file , i dont know how to install it
[21:38] <R49_> Hello there. I have an upgrade question, please. I run KDE 4.6.5 (kubuntu 11.04 natty) with kmail 1.13.6. Is there a simple way to just upgrade kmail to 1.13.7? The .7 fixes a gnarly bug in the GPG integration.
[21:40] <naftilos76> hi everyone, how can i downgrade from kde 4.7 to 4.6.5? Is there a wiki?
[21:40] <darren> have you tried running software update using kpakage?
[21:41] <R49_> @naftilos: Just an idea: remove the backports ppa from your sources list and do a ppa purge.
[21:42] <naftilos76> R49_: doing a ppa purge does not completely meet my understanding level! Can u pls be more specific?
[21:43] <R49_> @naftilos: There is a nice tool called called ppa-purge. You can install it with "sudo apt-get install ppa-purge".
[21:44] <R49_> It "purges" all the files from one ppa. I assume you got the kde 4.7 packages from the backports-ppa.
[21:44] <naftilos76> that is correct
[21:44] <R49_> So you should be able to get rid of all kde 4.7 packages by using ppa-purge on the command line.
[21:44] <naftilos76> what would the command look like?
[21:45] <claydoh> R49_:  ppa-purge will remove the apt sources lines as well
[21:46] <naftilos76> i guess none has done this, right?
[21:46] <claydoh> naftilos76: sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[21:46] <R49_> @claydoh: but isn't that what he wants? He does not want to reinstall from that ppa the next morning, I hope ;).
[21:46] <claydoh> but - not well tested doing such a major downgrade
[21:46] <R49_> Yep. The intention is more for a "simpler" downgrade.
[21:47] <R49_> But I have no better idea...
[21:47] <claydoh> the ppa-purge will remove the lines added, i think it might complain if the lines are already missing
[21:48] <claydoh> I have used ppa-purge to downgrade from kmail2, and for various xorg testing driver ppa's, but not the whole desktop
[21:48] <claydoh> so a backup is a good idea
[21:49] <R49_> @nafti && claydoh: I once did a ppa-purge to downgrade from a KDE "point-point" release, e.g. 4.6.4 to 4.6.3. It "sort of" worked, I had to do some manual fixes later, but it wasn't too bad.
[21:49] <R49_> By the way, any takers for my kmail 1.13.6 -> 1.13.7 upgrade question :D ? Hehe!
[21:50] <claydoh> theroestically, it should be ok from 4.7 back to 4.6.x, but many packaging changes were made between the 2 versions it may be, um, a fun frocess
[21:50] <vbgunz> why do I have no capture devices in kmix? why is getting my mic working so hard? It's just not intuitive :(
[21:51] <claydoh> R49_: I dunno,  didn't know there was a new kdepim version out
[21:51] <R49_> @vbgunz: Do you have the capture devices visible e.g. in alsamixer on the command line? (F4 to show capture devices). If they are not present there, they are not at all.
[21:52] <R49_> @vbgunz: And you do open the "full" kmix, I assume, via the start->loudspeaker symbol, then "mixer", then switch to capture devices, correct?
[21:53] <vbgunz> I checked alsamixer and checked F4 for capture devices and the only thing I see that makes any sense is input source and I set that to Front Mic which it should be
[21:53] <vbgunz> R49_: from the system tray, kmix, capture devices. nothing
[21:55] <vbgunz> I can hear my mic right now, no problem, I can hear it through my speakers atm. I am trying to set up Mumble. mumble isn't recognizing anything.
[21:55] <R49_> Is the sound hardware fully supported by your system? I mean, did it ever work? Is it a new chip? Have others got it to work.
[21:55] <vbgunz> In audacity I can definitely record audio through the mic with no problem. just the mumble audio wizard cannot find the mic
[21:55] <R49_> Hey, this is cool, the nafti guy didn't even say "bye" :/
[21:58] <R49_> @vbgunz: Sorry, never used mumble audio...
[21:58] <sorush20> hi
[21:58] <sorush20> !repositories
[21:58] <R49_> @vbgunz: Did you use alsamixer a bit more to find out about your device, e.g.
[21:59] <vbgunz> the point is, setting up a mic on kubuntu is extremely unintuitive. if not for alsamixer, kmix and the phonon control module would help me in no way. in the end, I am still getting stuck trying to set up my mic for something that should just work right out of the box
[21:59] <R49_> @vbgunz: you press F2 and press "devices", do you see your input device?
[22:00] <vbgunz> I have no idea what that list even means. I have about 20 devices and it's just cryptic
[22:02] <R49_> @vbgunz it should show something like "4: [0 -0] digital audio capture"
[22:02] <vbgunz> yeah I see that
[22:04] <R49_> @vbgunz: Just an idea: In alsamixer, check out F6, how many soundcards do you have (more than 1)? On my computer, one of the listed soundcards has no capture device. Maybe your mumble system is configured to use that?
[22:04] <vbgunz> one sec
[22:05] <vbgunz> I have default, then HDA ATI SB, and HDA NVIDIA
[22:05] <R49_> the sec is over, harhar
[22:05] <vbgunz> haha
[22:06] <linux-beginner-h> how can I migrate the local akonadi mysql to my mysql server?
[22:07] <R49_> vbgunz: But I am running out of guesses
[22:07] <vbgunz> I just wish setting up a mic wasn't sooo complicated. it's something that should just frigging work whereever a mic is needed. I just get depressed when I run into this now. it used to be fun but lately, I would just love it more for things to just work
[22:07] <R49_> vbgunz: Tell me about it... I would just like kmail to work...
[22:07] <vbgunz> me too, thanks for your help, it's appreciated. but noone should need help for this
[22:07] <R49_> Anyway, sorry I couldn't be of more help.
[22:07] <R49_> Cheers and byebye
[23:19] <sead> hi all
[23:20] <sead> are some people that speak spanish here?
[23:20] <bazhang> !es
[23:21] <sead> gracias, perdon por la molestia