[00:25] <jmarsden> bhm: Trying again: Is your fresh VM install completed yet?
[00:25] <bhm> :-) its running its lubuntu updates...
[00:26] <jmarsden> OK... did you try the ubuntuone stuff yet, or are you waiting for all the updates to happen first?
[00:26] <bhm> I'm waiting
[00:27] <jmarsden> OK.
[00:36] <bhm> The latest update was quite a lengthy one. Have someone at Lubuntu thought of uploading an iso that includes the updates?
[00:37] <bhm> (It is the linux header 2.6.xxx update that takes alot of time)
[00:38] <jmarsden> bhm: We are rather short handed... I am in the process of trying to create a 10.04.3 ISO image for those using the LTS... 11.10 will be out soon enough if you need the latest stuff...  "someone at Lubuntu"... who did you have in mind for that job? :)
[00:38] <bhm> Someone handy :-)
[00:38] <jmarsden> If you can do it, go for it :)
[00:39] <bhm> :-)
[00:39] <bhm> Well I'm up for it. I think the work which have been done so far is amazing
[00:39] <bhm> that being said, I'm a thorough user, not a programmer though.
[00:41] <bhm> if you have any links to guides for make iso's I'll be reading them in the morning...
[00:42] <jmarsden> Well, if updates take you that long, I dread to think how long it would take you to download all the packages to create a local package repository for the Lubuntu ISO build script to work from...
[00:42] <jmarsden> I wrote the script that builds the Lubuntu 11.04 ISO ... but the script *is* the documentation :)
[00:43] <bhm> :-) Well... if my i7-920 server wasn't doing homework this weekend it would be the one doing the work....
[00:43] <jmarsden> It's more bandwidth than CPU you'd want to grab the repo, but OK.  Let me find a pointer to the git repo for the script...
[00:44] <bhm> thanks
[00:52] <jmarsden> bhm: OK, I can't find where the git repo for the tools are right now, but here is a copy of the build script: http://crosswire.org/~jmarsden/lubuntu-build.sh
[00:55] <bhm> U1 works now. Step 1: Fresh iso download >>> Step 2: Update using update manager >>> Step 3: install ubuntuone client.
[00:55] <bhm> result from cmdline is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/671382/
[00:55] <jmarsden> OK, good... well, I don't know what was wrong with the earlier VM you had, but at least it works now :)
[00:57] <bhm> Yes... And one does always sleeps better upon success :-)
[00:58] <jmarsden> bhm: Sounds like a good time for you to go to bed, then :)
[00:58] <bhm> Well 2AM...?
[00:59] <jmarsden> You seem to keep about the same hours my daughter does when on vacation :)
[01:00] <bhm> hihi... Well research work is best in the hours when no phone rings, no email pops up and other distractions are at a minimum
[01:13] <bhm> jmarsden: I've just been reading through your script and find it both very structured and apparently easy to read. I'll have a thorough look at its dependencies tomorrow and get back to your later. ok?
[01:14] <jmarsden> Sure... I'm not around on IRC as much on Sundays, but usually log the channel even when away from the keyboard.
[01:15] <bhm> ok thanks - nite!
[01:15] <jmarsden> Goodnight.
[01:36] <FollowerOfMendax> !topic
[03:11] <Bookman> Hey folks, I'm trying to edit my grub menu.lst to fix a eeepc screen brightness bug and I don't seem to be able to find /boot/grub/menu.lst.  Has this all changed?
[03:12] <Unit193> We are now using grub2
[03:12] <Unit193> !grub2
[03:13] <Bookman> Ah, beyond my experience!
[03:15] <Bookman> So now my previous bug fix for eeepc is no longer valid....
[03:16] <Unit193> Take a look at /etc/default/grub
[03:19] <Bookman> Unit193, thanks....looking now.
[03:20] <Bookman> Unit193, thanks, worked wonderfully!
[03:20] <Unit193> Bookman: You are welcome! Glad I could help!
[03:20] <Unit193> Don't forget to update grub though
[03:21] <Bookman> Unit193, oh shoot....
[03:21] <Unit193> sudo update-grub
[03:23] <Bookman> Unit193, done and thanks yet again for the reminder.  Lubuntu kicks on this little machine!
[03:24] <Unit193> Aye, that it does. What's the hardware like?
[03:24] <Bookman> specs?
[03:25] <sagaci> ya
[03:27] <Bookman> http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/asus-eee-pc-1005peb/4507-3121_7-33970187.html
[03:29] <Bookman> upon bootup 114 MB of 991 MB used
[03:29] <Bookman> Very peppy
[03:33] <Unit193> LXDE/Lubuntu is fast
[03:42] <Bookman> I can see that
[03:42] <Bookman> Just had to fix a bug with the brightness.  Everything else worked 'out of the box'.  Even wireless and Flash
[03:42] <Unit193> s/fast/faster than others/
[07:56] <bignono1> hello ,am using 11.04 , after an update i lost my connection icon and now cant connect via a 3g usb huawei modem ,it is a lapy
[07:57] <bignono1> i tried the menu but could not find the connection manager , i also dont know the command to connect
[07:58] <jmarsden> bignono1: phillw may be able to help with that, he uses a 3G wireless gadget... but I don't think he is around right now.
[07:59] <bignono1> i wait for him and any other good guy to help me
[08:00] <sagaci> bignono1, have you tried running nm-applet?
[08:01] <bignono1> i tried but those dashes drove me crazy
[08:01] <bignono1> nm--applet or nm__applet or nm _ _applet?
[08:03] <jmarsden> bignono1: Just one -    so the command is    nm-applet
[08:03] <bignono1> nm-applet --sm-disable?
[08:03] <bignono1> no sm-disable?
[08:04] <jmarsden> I'm not sure... try it either way -- does it run?
[08:04] <bignono1> no
[08:05] <sagaci> what errors are you getting from the terminal
[08:05] <bignono1> command not found
[08:05] <bignono1> gcconftool will not work?
[08:06] <bignono1> this is lbuntu not a gnome wright?
[08:06] <sagaci> yeah, ubuntu and lubuntu use nm-applet
[08:07] <bignono1> but gconftool is only for gnome?
[08:08] <bignono1> man , every time i update i keep my bteaths
[08:08] <sagaci> gconftoll is in lubuntu
[08:09] <sagaci> gconftool*
[08:09] <bignono1> ok
[08:09] <bignono1> no other tricks to connect via terminal?
[08:09] <jmarsden> bignono1: It looks a little old, but see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Huawei
[08:11] <sagaci> bignono1, is it just the nm-applet missing from the top right, have you got sound, clock, etc?
[08:12] <bignono1> yah the other icons are there only the connection is missing
[08:13] <sagaci> so you don't have nm-applet installed, by the sounds of it
[08:13] <bignono1> i try adding it from the taskbas /add applet but no luck all connection related stuffs are gone
[08:14] <bignono1> it was there though before the damn updatr
[08:14] <bignono1> *update
[08:17] <sagaci> trying checking synaptic package manager to see if networkmanager and networkmanager-gnome are installed
[08:18] <bignono1> manager will work offline?
[08:18] <jmarsden> yes, it will run and let you work with what is already installed... it just can't go out and get new packages.
[08:30] <bignono1> thanks for the help guys
[08:30] <jmarsden> You're welcome.
[09:23] <Fudge> mm phillw ? how goes accessibility?
[11:24] <resc_user_1864> hi,
[11:24] <resc_user_1864> who made the last update for lubuntu_
[11:25] <resc_user_1864> ?
[11:25] <resc_user_1864> I have major mess up now
[11:25] <resc_user_1864> no booting,
[11:57] <pointedarrow> hi
[11:59] <pointedarrow> how do I do a fsck on a majorly trubled lubuntu
[11:59] <pointedarrow> I could get  nasty with the guy who launched the latest lubuntu update
[12:11] <pointedarrow> who made the latest updated for lubuntu_
[12:11] <pointedarrow> ?
[12:12] <pointedarrow> i could kill them
[12:14] <pointedarrow> how to launc a fsck filechek_
[12:16] <KM0201> pointedarrow: whats wrong? my systems are up to date, and im' having no issues at all
[12:17] <pointedarrow> something is up with mine
[12:17] <KM0201> well, google "something is up with lubuntu".. i mean, that'll probably return a bajillion answers
[12:17] <KM0201> did you come here for a solution, or just to gripe?
[12:18] <pointedarrow> I boot up to this message on a black screen; Bash like line editing supported, something with grub, and press tab for commands
[12:18] <KM0201> that sounds like a grub problem
[12:18] <pointedarrow> I have tried reinstalling grub from rescatux live cd
[12:18] <pointedarrow> but no change
[12:19] <KM0201> did you try reinstalling grub from a lubuntu live cd/usb?
[12:19] <pointedarrow> no, I couldn t figure out how it worked
[12:19] <pointedarrow> sorry
[12:20] <pointedarrow> I thought rescatux was a good work around
[12:20] <pointedarrow> it was kernel update of some sort I think, it popped up this morning
[12:21] <KM0201> i don't really see how a kernel update, could cause a grub error, but its possible i guess
[12:21] <pointedarrow> it might be something else?
[12:21] <KM0201> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[12:22] <pointedarrow> I thought about an fsck check, but is it poosible from live cd?
[12:22] <KM0201> looks pretty straightforward to me.
[12:22] <KM0201> why would a filesystem check, fix a grub error?
[12:22] <KM0201> it sounds like your grub configuration got borked for some reason
[12:23] <KM0201> did you have grub on the MBR< or did you have it on its own partition?
[12:23] <pointedarrow> on the mbr
[12:24] <KM0201> it should be easy enough to rreinstall grub w/ boot-repair.
[12:24] <pointedarrow> is the boot/repair any different from rescatux?
[12:24] <KM0201> frankly, i thought rescatux was still using grub-legacy.
[12:24] <pointedarrow> sorry, I am in rescatux now, and keyboard layout is messed up
[12:24] <pointedarrow> hmm
[12:24] <KM0201> i don't have rescatux, so i know nothing about it..
[12:25] <pointedarrow> I shall have to burn grub repair, it might be better
[12:25] <KM0201> why are you making this more difficult than necessary?
[12:25] <KM0201> you're downloading/burning everything BUT what the link says to do.
[12:26] <KM0201> and frankly, if you can't use rescatux, i'm gonna put out a WAG, that you can't use grub rescue disk..
[12:26] <pointedarrow> trouble is I havent got access to a burner, before I boot up properly
[12:26] <pointedarrow> I had rescatux in my shelf, already burned
[12:26] <KM0201> i see... well, depending on what version it is, that might be why its not working.. like i said, grub-legacy.
[12:26] <pointedarrow> I shall have to get to a working computer
[12:27] <KM0201> is the machine dual booting?
[12:27] <pointedarrow> no, only lubuntu
[12:27] <pointedarrow> regular 320 GB harddisk
[12:27] <KM0201> and the rescatux, is the only live cd you have around?
[12:28] <pointedarrow> I have lubuntu, and puppy
[12:28] <pointedarrow> too
[12:28] <pointedarrow> lubuntu 11.04 or something like that
[12:28] <KM0201> man i feel like i'm just talking to see what I say... THEN BOOT THE LUBUNTU CD
[12:28] <KM0201> it's right there how to install and use boot-repair on that link i gave you
[12:29] <pointedarrow> hmm, sorry for being slow, but I couldnt find any repair functions threre
[12:29] <KM0201> ok..
[12:29] <pointedarrow> I shall boot lubuntu and look again
[12:29] <KM0201> you're not listening
[12:29] <KM0201> at all...
[12:29] <pointedarrow> thanks anyhow
[12:29] <KM0201> good luck w/ your problem
[12:30] <KM0201> part of support, is to be able to listen to people giving you support, if you actually click the link i gave you, install boot repair, and do what it says.
[12:50] <ubuntu_> hi again
[12:50] <sharparrow> runnig the boot repair from live CD I get some error messages
[12:51] <sharparrow> No valid source for grub-pc
[12:52] <sharparrow> I'm not shore what the messages mean
[12:54] <sharparrow> how do you enable repositories for Grub?
[12:55] <sharparrow> trouble is, this is live cd
[15:05] <silverarrow> is there a preferable way to download youtube videos in chromium?
[15:20] <silverarrow> does anyone download youtube videos?
[15:26] <sour> yeah, but using jdownloader for it, no chrome ext. or so
[15:26] <silverarrow> thanks
[15:27]  * silverarrow looking up in package manager
[15:29] <silverarrow> hmm, nothing in package manager
[15:29] <silverarrow> might it be called something else, spelling ?
[15:30] <sour> http://jdownloader.org/download/index
[15:31] <sour> there are install instructions too
[15:32] <silverarrow> there is something called mims, but I can't find it any where, even though the package is installed
[15:41] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, youtube-dl ?
[15:41] <IAmNotThatGuy> in terminal? thats what I use
[15:41] <silverarrow> thanks
[15:41] <IAmNotThatGuy> np =]
[15:41] <silverarrow> you use it in lubuntu?
[15:41] <silverarrow> then I shall go for it
[15:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, that package is for all *buntu versions. If you get some errors, then you have to update the youtube-dl
[15:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> Ping em if you need help
[15:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> me*
[15:45] <silverarrow> but where is it after download?
[15:45] <silverarrow> and install
[15:46] <silverarrow> I found it in package manager too
[15:46] <IAmNotThatGuy> in your present working directory (home by default)
[15:48] <silverarrow> hmm, it is no where
[15:50] <IAmNotThatGuy> Huh?
[15:51] <silverarrow> from terminal I get  no fmt_url_map or conn information found in video info
[15:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> ah
[15:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> Okay
[15:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> now, in terminal, type sudo youtube-dl --update
[15:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, and that will solve the issue
[15:54] <silverarrow> very clever guy
[15:54] <silverarrow> ...or not that guy
[15:54] <silverarrow> ;- )
[15:55] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, IAmNotThatGuy ;)
[15:55] <silverarrow> ooh, it is working
[15:56] <silverarrow> this is the coolests, simplest thing,
[15:56] <silverarrow> I hope I manage to  remember
[15:56] <silverarrow> I am so bad with terminal stuff
[15:57] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, Now, enjoy the day =] I will add this in my site for others to verify ;)
[15:57] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, terminal is the coolest B-)
[15:58] <silverarrow> thanks
[15:59] <silverarrow> :- )
[15:59] <silverarrow> you too
[15:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, its night here :P anyways thank you
[15:59] <silverarrow> it's evening here about six
[15:59] <silverarrow> I shall have to leave, see you another day :- )
[15:59] <silverarrow> have a good night
[19:18] <jvu13> Hi, ya'll: anyone feel competent enough to help me with wireless lubuntu problem?
[19:19] <KM0201> jvu13: sure.. whats up
[19:20] <jvu13> I just installed the current lubuntu version and wireless worked for the first day. Now, it sees my home network but does not connect anymore. It just keeps asking for the WPA password.
[19:20] <bioterror> did you update kernel?
[19:21] <jvu13> There was nothing to update (while the network was working)...
[19:21] <KM0201> and whats your wireless device?
[19:21] <jvu13> I think it is an rtlxxx ...
[19:22] <KM0201> jvu13: usb or internal
[19:22] <jvu13> internal
[19:22] <KM0201> jvu13: in a terminal   lspci | grep Wireless
[19:22] <jvu13> OK, I#m booting it up right now... it will be a minute or two...
[19:23] <KM0201> a minute or two?...lol
[19:26] <jvu13> OK. Upon booting, I was asked to give the keyring pasword for the wlan. I did and it connected! But only for about 30 seconds. Then it disconnected and asks now continuously for the password.
[19:26] <jvu13> lspci | grep Wireless produced nothing! Signal stength of the wlan is given in conky as 100%
[19:27] <KM0201> hmm
[19:27] <KM0201> jvu13: just type lspci  and hit enter, and find yoru wireless device in the list
[19:27] <KM0201> don't paste the whole list
[19:28] <silverarrow> is vp8 suported in the lubuntu vlc version?=
[19:28] <silverarrow> I do updates
[19:28] <jvu13> OK: it is Ralink corp RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g
[19:28] <silverarrow> for playing youtube videos
[19:29] <silverarrow> wireless issues?
[19:29] <jvu13> yep
[19:29] <silverarrow> most ralink should be supported I think
[19:29] <KM0201> most of them, that is strange
[19:30] <KM0201> wouldn't even know where to start on that one
[19:30] <jvu13> I can't paste anything from the laptop: no connection... I'm using another desktop model now
[19:30] <jvu13> Like I said: it connects for about 30 seconds. After that, it won't reconnect
[19:31] <silverarrow> hmm, other distros handle it fine?
[19:31] <jvu13> Kernel is 2.6.38-10-generic
[19:32] <jvu13> Other distros: Mint fluxbox 9 works fine. As does Ubuntu 10.04.
[19:33] <silverarrow> I would still try 11.04 then
[19:34] <jvu13> I think I'll install peppermint 2. I did that on a netbook 2 days ago and it works just fine.
[19:34] <silverarrow> latest is 2.6.38-11
[19:34] <silverarrow> though it really should work if it does in ubuntu
[19:35] <silverarrow> you have added restricted ? but I don't know if that should matter
[19:36] <jvu13> No, I only added some stuff like luefish and gftp and other uninteresting things
[19:36] <silverarrow> but nobody have any idea on vlc updates?
[19:37] <silverarrow> I am just a regular amateur, but search for lubuntu restricted in package manager
[19:37] <silverarrow> there are two packages there, check if they are installed
[19:38] <silverarrow> still, I think wireless drivers are in the live cd even
[19:39] <jvu13> Thanks for your time. I've got to go now. Will try Peppermint 2.
[19:40] <silverarrow> and there are "additional drivers" that need to be activated, under system tools
[20:56] <tony_> hey ppl schould i get lubuntu offical or low disk space i have 8 gb
[20:58] <ruffer> imho 8gb is pretty sufficient for any distro, with reasonable package selection approach
[21:00] <tony_> what lol
[21:00] <tony_> p
[21:00] <tony_> o