| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| alex-mayorga | OK guys that seemed to install, let me reboot and see how it goes BRB and thanks again | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Ian_Corne | gl | 00:02 |
| alex-mayorga | Ian_Corne, jtaylor: thanks | 00:09 |
| alex-mayorga | your workaround saved the day | 00:09 |
| Ian_Corne | :) | 00:09 |
| alex-mayorga | can someone explain multiarch to me in layman terms please? | 00:15 |
| alex-mayorga | also, are the missing scroll arrows in Terminals "by design" or is my metacity borked? | 00:17 |
| jtaylor | it installs arch dependent files into subfolders of e.g /usr/lib so that packages from multiple architectures can be installed at the same time | 00:17 |
| jtaylor | and dpkg/apt gains the ability to handle dependencies that cross architectures | 00:18 |
| jtaylor | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec | 00:19 |
| jbicha | my scroll arrows come and go in gnome-terminal, wonder if there's a bug about it... | 00:19 |
| Ian_Corne | isn't that just the new scroll arrows? | 00:19 |
| alex-mayorga | jtaylor: thanks | 00:26 |
| alex-mayorga | another broken thing I have is dash is bright orange and really ugly here :( | 00:32 |
| penguin42 | alex-mayorga: Oh youch - it is here as well; it was a nice Cyan yesterday | 00:34 |
| penguin42 | I'm fairly sure that shade of Orange is illegal in most countries | 00:35 |
| billybigrigger_ | any major breakages in the last couple of days? i haven't updated since thurs.... | 04:45 |
| IdleOne | just had a kernel upgrade to 3.0.0.9 | 04:50 |
| IdleOne | not sure I want to reboot yet. | 04:51 |
| billybigrigger_ | i didn't get one yet, 64bit? | 04:51 |
| IdleOne | yup | 04:51 |
| billybigrigger_ | i couldnt see much for showstoppers on the forums, i'm glad you piped up | 04:51 |
| billybigrigger_ | i'm sync'd up to the canadian mirror, probably not ready for me yet, thank god :P | 04:52 |
| IdleOne | I'm also using the canadian mirror | 04:52 |
| billybigrigger_ | oh | 04:52 |
| IdleOne | 64bit server here | 04:52 |
| billybigrigger_ | :O | 04:52 |
| billybigrigger_ | hmmmm | 04:52 |
| billybigrigger_ | oh, i guess i put my laptop back to the main repo | 04:53 |
| billybigrigger_ | still odd that mine is being held back, but no complaints here, i have a working laptop for the moment :P | 04:53 |
| === head_victim is now known as Guest97921 | ||
| === Guest97921 is now known as head_victim | ||
| fasta | How do I add foo=bar to the command line in grub2? | 07:09 |
| fasta | It used to be a matter of editing menu.lst, but now there is a file which is read by a compiler which is then read by yet another compiler, etc. | 07:10 |
| geser | fasta: try adding it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub | 07:25 |
| dabukalam | If I install oneiric minimal now, and apt-get ubuntu-desktop, will I get the same build as a regular oneiric install? | 08:32 |
| dr-willis | yes | 08:32 |
| dabukalam | will it work? | 08:32 |
| dabukalam | because last time I tried, I got a bunch of errors, and was told it was broken or something | 08:33 |
| dr-willis | work as in install yes.. | 08:33 |
| dr-willis | this is alpha stuff... :) | 08:33 |
| dabukalam | true, but that's my question, is this alpha stuff now working or not? | 08:33 |
| dr-willis | so its hard ti tell | 08:33 |
| dabukalam | will anything have changed from thursday? | 08:34 |
| dr-willis | depends.. | 08:34 |
| dr-willis | alpha could break at any time | 08:34 |
| dabukalam | pfft, i'll try it and come back here with yay or nay | 08:34 |
| dr-willis | or get fixed at any time | 08:34 |
| dr-willis | ive had very few issues with this alpha | 08:35 |
| dabukalam | well in the words of arnold | 08:35 |
| dabukalam | i'll be back | 08:35 |
| === Chipaca` is now known as Chipaca | ||
| Vadi | 'Delete' key isn't deleting selected items in 11.10 on latest updated - bug or feature? | 09:55 |
| jbicha | feature, Nautilus the file manager has shifted to Ctrl+Delete to delete stuff | 09:56 |
| jbicha | or bug, I don't like it but it's intentional | 09:57 |
| Chipaca | a feature that's a bug, is that called a beature? | 09:57 |
| Vadi | thanks jbicha | 09:59 |
| Vadi | Is Delete being used for anything else? | 09:59 |
| jbicha | no, apparently people accidently pressed the delete key | 10:00 |
| Vadi | Peculiar but alright. I hope the reviews will take this kindly. | 10:01 |
| Vadi | Thanks for answering :) | 10:01 |
| zniavre | anyway to use indicator-applet-complete in gnome-panel for fallback session ? | 11:03 |
| jtaylor | gna I finally figured out my opera flash plugin problem ... | 12:35 |
| jtaylor | I forgot to update my apparmor profile ._. | 12:35 |
| rohdef | after I started using multiarch for Skype dependencies aptitude started marking non-existing conflicts, what can I do about that | 12:37 |
| dsdale | anyone know how to get flash support? When I try to install flashplugin-nonfree, aptitude tells me that nspluginwrapper is required, but is a virtual package | 12:37 |
| jtaylor | dsdale do you have multiarch enabled'? | 12:42 |
| dsdale | jtaylor: don't know. how do I enable it? | 12:42 |
| dsdale | also: why do I need to enable it? There is a 64-bit flash player available | 12:43 |
| jtaylor | not in the official repos | 12:43 |
| jtaylor | echo foreign-architecture i386 | sudo tee /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch; sudo apt-get update | 12:43 |
| dsdale | thanks | 12:44 |
| jtaylor | hm weird I gave opera ptrace capability but it still won't work ._. | 12:47 |
| jtaylor | stupid opera, what does it need ptrace for anyway ... | 12:47 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:52 |
| === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh | ||
| fasta | What kernels are supported with jockey? | 16:10 |
| fasta | Since... I get again a pathetic excuse that it doesn't work. | 16:11 |
| charlie-tca | fasta: All of them here are supported with jockey | 16:24 |
| charlie-tca | Even the 3.0.0-9-generic | 16:24 |
| charlie-tca | If I could only do good with the GUI for Users and Groups :( | 16:25 |
| fasta | charlie-tca: but it doesn't work. | 16:25 |
| charlie-tca | Why? It does work for me | 16:25 |
| fasta | charlie-tca: I can paste the log, but I don't know why. If I knew, I wouldn't be asking. | 16:27 |
| fasta | charlie-tca: http://paste.debian.net/127016/ | 16:29 |
| kjeldahl | Latest dist-upgrade broke audio (again) on sandy bridge laptop, Aspire 3830TG, Conexant ID 506c. | 16:30 |
| charlie-tca | fasta: that's not a virtual machine install, is it? | 16:31 |
| fasta | charlie-tca: no | 16:31 |
| fasta | charlie-tca: if I run the binary from ATI, it crashes when I want to make a disto specific package. | 16:32 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know then. Hopefully someone else does. It looks like it can't find the drivers in the repositories. | 16:32 |
| fasta | charlie-tca: it is just one miserable pile of failure. | 16:32 |
| fasta | charlie-tca: do you know how to solve my other mtrr problem? | 16:33 |
| charlie-tca | no, sorry | 16:33 |
| charlie-tca | All I can do is verify jockey should be working, I guess. | 16:33 |
| fasta | What does that mean? | 16:34 |
| charlie-tca | You asked above what kernels are supported by jockey. I can tell you "all of them so far" | 16:34 |
| Vanillalite | Hello all! | 16:58 |
| Vanillalite | Have a weird issue where Unity 2d works fine but regular Unity gives me a black screen sometimes unless I move my mouse around and I get these big black bars over my top panel, unity panel, and the top panel of say opened programs... any ideas what's wrong? | 17:00 |
| === mrslv_ is now known as mrslv | ||
| jtaylor | Vanillalite: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/819144 | 17:15 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 819144 in unity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[fglrx] everything is black and blinks when using unity" [High,Confirmed] | 17:15 |
| jtaylor | I also have the problem and know no solution | 17:15 |
| Vanillalite | Thanks for the bug link tho! | 17:16 |
| Vanillalite | At least I know it isn't just me and can follow the bug track to see what I can do to help and the status of being fixed! | 17:17 |
| rohdef | after I activated multiarch for i386 aptitude started marking a non-existing conflict. Between qt4-gui and qt4-qui:i386 | 17:25 |
| rohdef | for instance synaptic have no problem with this | 17:25 |
| high-rez | flashplugin-installer doesn't seem to want to install for me in +1... It seems a dependency on nspluginviewer which no longer exists ? | 17:40 |
| Pici | Log a bug then. | 17:40 |
| Ian_Corne | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash | 17:40 |
| Ian_Corne | to get 64 bit flash | 17:41 |
| BluesKaj | high-rez, 64 bit OS ? | 17:42 |
| high-rez | BluesKaj: Yep. About to try Ian_Corne's suggestion :) | 17:42 |
| BluesKaj | high-rez, yup, go for it ..it should work | 17:42 |
| blueyed | any showstoppers with oneiric? /me is thinking about updating his production machine already. | 17:56 |
| BluesKaj | blueyed, a production machine ...too risky for that | 17:57 |
| jo-erlend_ | are there any serious, well known and unresolved issues with oneiric now ? I thought I'd have another attempt at upgrading my laptop. | 17:57 |
| blueyed | jo-erlend_: just what I am thinking about. | 17:58 |
| blueyed | BluesKaj: thanks for holding me back. | 17:58 |
| jo-erlend_ | the last time I tried, I couldn't get X up at all. | 17:58 |
| kjeldahl` | Well, wifi and audio on modern sandybridge laptops has been challenging, but was mostly solved last month, but yesterday I lost audio again. Not critical, but annoying. | 17:59 |
| blueyed | I was always using alpha/beta during the last years, but am just enjoying a fresh install (since 2004) | 17:59 |
| blueyed | I could dd-copy/backup the partition to the ubiquity-based instance on the same machine, and would have an image to go back to. | 18:00 |
| BluesKaj | blueyed, dd-copy/backup sounds like an idea , but is it worth the trouble | 18:13 |
| blueyed | BluesKaj: not really. I will just wait and get to know the current kinks and hope for them to be fixed in the next release.. :) | 18:28 |
| BluesKaj | blueyed, right , I meant in it's present state | 18:31 |
| high-rez | Sweet, that did it. Thanks guys. | 18:43 |
| high-rez | Will 64bit flash be integrated into 11.10 at some point or will it still be a PPA ? | 18:43 |
| Pici | It should be in there now. | 18:44 |
| Pici | Like I said earlier, if you can't install due to a broken dependency, then you should log a bug. | 18:45 |
| h00k | yeah, it's... | 18:46 |
| h00k | ndiskwrapper, I think? | 18:46 |
| Pici | nspluginwrapper? | 18:46 |
| Pici | or viewer? | 18:46 |
| h00k | I don't remember :) Lemme check. | 18:46 |
| IdleOne | it's viewer causing the error | 18:46 |
| high-rez | nspluginwrapper won't install because of nspluginviewer | 18:46 |
| h00k | nope, yep, it's viewer. | 18:47 |
| IdleOne | use the PPA for now and file a bug | 18:47 |
| h00k | No PPA for me! | 18:48 |
| h00k | I'm trying to keep this as stock as I can | 18:48 |
| IdleOne | no flash for you! | 18:48 |
| * IdleOne sees h00k with redeye | 18:48 | |
| urlin2u | NEXT | 18:48 |
| Ian_Corne | no sound in lxde? | 18:49 |
| Ian_Corne | unity isn't working for me atm | 18:49 |
| h00k | IdleOne: yeah, I can make it! | 18:50 |
| jbicha | high-rez: the 64-bit Flash won't be in Ubuntu until it hits a final release | 18:56 |
| high-rez | Ahh ok | 18:56 |
| jbicha | Adobe has a bad tendency to not support beta software, their last 64-bit plugin didn't get security updates for instance | 18:56 |
| Ian_Corne | that was alpha i think :) | 18:57 |
| bjsnider | the last 2 flash releases have been 64-bit side-by-side with the 32-bit | 19:18 |
| bjsnider | but it doesn't matter as ubuntu is now multiarch and you can use the 32-bit flash without nspluginwrapper gumming up the works | 19:19 |
| ali1234 | but i need nspluginwrapper | 19:24 |
| ali1234 | how am i supposed to patch the bugs without it? | 19:24 |
| jbicha_ | ali1234: did you enable the 32-bit repositories? | 19:26 |
| penguin42 | hmm is multiarch actually upto installing a 32bit chromium or firefox and all libraries on a 64bit system yet? | 19:26 |
| ali1234 | jbicha_: you don't understand, i need nspluginwrapper to load patched libraries just for flash, to make it work properly | 19:27 |
| jtaylor | penguin42: it appears no, apt-get install firefox:i386 will ahve unmet dependencies | 19:29 |
| Ian_Corne | sound seems to be broken? | 19:30 |
| Ian_Corne | pulseaudo restart fixed it | 19:32 |
| h00k | flash is broken. | 19:34 |
| genii-around | Isn't flash *always* broken?? | 19:34 |
| h00k | Yep. | 19:34 |
| h00k | well, by definition ;) | 19:34 |
| penguin42 | Ian_Corne: Yeh I've had a few pa restarts needed in the last couple of days | 19:35 |
| penguin42 | jtaylor: It'll be nice when it is, but until then I guess we just still need nspluginwrapper | 19:35 |
| BluesKaj | h00k, if you have 64 bit then add this ppa , sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash | 19:36 |
| h00k | BluesKaj: yeah, I know ;) | 19:36 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 19:36 |
| h00k | BluesKaj: I'm not going to, I'm just going to wait for it to be fixed | 19:36 |
| h00k | BluesKaj: staying away from PPAs while I am testing things | 19:36 |
| BluesKaj | h00k, one could ask , will it ever be fixed ? :) | 19:37 |
| h00k | BluesKaj: mebbe | 19:37 |
| h00k | and yeah, I'm on 64bit. | 19:37 |
| BluesKaj | one can alaways delete ppas once the app is "official" | 19:39 |
| jbicha_ | well with Flash being closed source, it's unclear whether the bugs will get fixed | 19:46 |
| penguin42 | IMHO the current problem isn't a flash bug, it looks more like nsplugin* | 19:46 |
| farciarz84 | hi, I got error when dist-upgrade according flash plugin | 20:00 |
| farciarz84 | nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so | 20:01 |
| farciarz84 | dependencies problem, and some my langague translated infos | 20:01 |
| farciarz84 | would you like helping me with this? | 20:01 |
| farciarz84 | the flash is being download from this link http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_10.3.183.4.orig.tar.gz | 20:02 |
| farciarz84 | 64bit sandy bridge platform | 20:03 |
| ianm_ | did something change with the SDL package in Oneiric? http://bugs.launchpad.net/luz/+bug/830733 | 20:03 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 830733 in Luz "Cannot build Luz on Ubuntu Oneiric" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 20:03 |
| BluesKaj | farciarz84, you could try , sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash | 20:03 |
| farciarz84 | BluesKaj: which package should I install now? | 20:05 |
| BluesKaj | farciarz84, or you could choose one here https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash/+packages | 20:06 |
| BluesKaj | farciarz84, heh , yeah , that's the same site as you poated :) | 20:10 |
| BluesKaj | err posted | 20:10 |
| farciarz84 | BluesKaj: thx for help, I've installed 11.X version and everything seems to work | 20:13 |
| BluesKaj | farciarz84, well, you were already halfway there :) | 20:14 |
| Ian_Corne | dbus is broken too it seems | 20:15 |
| Ian_Corne | anyone confirm? | 20:15 |
| Dr_Willis | not booted/upgrded my system in like 2 weeks... :) scary.. | 20:16 |
| bjsnider | ianm_, when you get "undefined reference to" errors in a build it's usually because of mismatched code, so old code vs. new code and whatnot | 20:17 |
| farciarz84 | when the rc will be lanunched? | 20:18 |
| Pici | !schedule | 20:18 |
| ubottu | A schedule of Oneiric Ocelot (11.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | 20:18 |
| ianm_ | bjsnider: seems like the build is missing SDL entirely, though I don't have an Oneiric box to test | 20:18 |
| bjsnider | there's going to be an sdl-dev package that takes care of that | 20:19 |
| ianm_ | could someone on Oneiric try: pkg-config sdl --cflags --libs | 20:19 |
| ianm_ | oh it's likely that the package name changed | 20:20 |
| ianm_ | it was libsdl1.2-dev previously | 20:20 |
| bjsnider | games should switch to pulse | 20:20 |
| ianm_ | using pulseaudio? | 20:21 |
| ianm_ | Luz uses SDL for graphics | 20:21 |
| bjsnider | i must have gotten it confused with audio | 20:22 |
| ianm_ | it does audio as well | 20:22 |
| farciarz84 | ok I'll keep my finger crossed for you. Thx for your hard work, 12.04 will be better then OSX and 11.10 then ms win ever. | 20:22 |
| bjsnider | well, they should switch to pulse | 20:23 |
| farciarz84 | I'm restarting my machine, hope everything will be fine after dist-upgrade | 20:23 |
| Ian_Corne | also my keybindings don't work in unity 2D | 20:26 |
| Ian_Corne | and the PA thing is plenty annoying | 20:30 |
| BluesKaj | there are all kinds of pulseaudio problems ...wish it was optional instead of default | 20:37 |
| farciarz84 | how to check wich intel driver gpu has been installed? | 20:39 |
| farciarz84 | which* | 20:39 |
| penguin42 | farciarz84: /var/log/Xorg.0.log shows the X startup | 20:41 |
| penguin42 | farciarz84: To my knowledge there is practially only one driver | 20:41 |
| Ian_Corne | well, there's vesa too | 20:42 |
| genii-around | farciarz84: sudo lshw -C video also shows a line starting with: configuration: which has what driver is loaded for that video card | 20:42 |
| BUGabundo | good evening darlings! | 20:42 |
| Ian_Corne | hello | 20:42 |
| BluesKaj | farciarz84, dpkg -l | grep intel | 20:42 |
| BluesKaj | farciarz84, or at or nvidia | 20:43 |
| BluesKaj | ati | 20:43 |
| BluesKaj | hey BUGabundo | 20:43 |
| farciarz84 | ok 2.2.15 they changed a lot and looks some major bugs were fixed | 20:45 |
| farciarz84 | I have some issue with recent distro system-settings. Messageing and VoiP Accounts are unable to add/remove from account list. The =/- buttons are not working. | 20:46 |
| farciarz84 | +/- * | 20:46 |
| farciarz84 | also the import button doesn't work correct | 20:47 |
| farciarz84 | Is is some common bug or not working only for me? | 20:48 |
| farciarz84 | I've sent the bug to your tracking system. | 20:49 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| h00k | okay, I gave in and grabed the ppa. | 23:01 |
| h00k | let' | 23:02 |
| h00k | s see how flash64 works. | 23:02 |
| penguin42 | Angry Birds in G+ works - what else is there to say? | 23:02 |
| h00k | hey, look at that. | 23:05 |
| IdleOne | penguin42: needs more levels | 23:09 |
| penguin42 | http://liliputing.com/2011/08/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-an-hp-touchpad.html | 23:12 |
| penguin42 | oops, sorry - wrong window | 23:17 |
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