=== yofel_ is now known as yofel [00:00] OK guys that seemed to install, let me reboot and see how it goes BRB and thanks again [00:02] gl [00:09] Ian_Corne, jtaylor: thanks [00:09] your workaround saved the day [00:09] :) [00:15] can someone explain multiarch to me in layman terms please? [00:17] also, are the missing scroll arrows in Terminals "by design" or is my metacity borked? [00:17] it installs arch dependent files into subfolders of e.g /usr/lib so that packages from multiple architectures can be installed at the same time [00:18] and dpkg/apt gains the ability to handle dependencies that cross architectures [00:19] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec [00:19] my scroll arrows come and go in gnome-terminal, wonder if there's a bug about it... [00:19] isn't that just the new scroll arrows? [00:26] jtaylor: thanks [00:32] another broken thing I have is dash is bright orange and really ugly here :( [00:34] alex-mayorga: Oh youch - it is here as well; it was a nice Cyan yesterday [00:35] I'm fairly sure that shade of Orange is illegal in most countries [04:45] any major breakages in the last couple of days? i haven't updated since thurs.... [04:50] just had a kernel upgrade to 3.0.0.9 [04:51] not sure I want to reboot yet. [04:51] i didn't get one yet, 64bit? [04:51] yup [04:51] i couldnt see much for showstoppers on the forums, i'm glad you piped up [04:52] i'm sync'd up to the canadian mirror, probably not ready for me yet, thank god :P [04:52] I'm also using the canadian mirror [04:52] oh [04:52] 64bit server here [04:52] :O [04:52] hmmmm [04:53] oh, i guess i put my laptop back to the main repo [04:53] still odd that mine is being held back, but no complaints here, i have a working laptop for the moment :P === head_victim is now known as Guest97921 === Guest97921 is now known as head_victim [07:09] How do I add foo=bar to the command line in grub2? [07:10] It used to be a matter of editing menu.lst, but now there is a file which is read by a compiler which is then read by yet another compiler, etc. [07:25] fasta: try adding it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub [08:32] If I install oneiric minimal now, and apt-get ubuntu-desktop, will I get the same build as a regular oneiric install? [08:32] yes [08:32] will it work? [08:33] because last time I tried, I got a bunch of errors, and was told it was broken or something [08:33] work as in install yes.. [08:33] this is alpha stuff... :) [08:33] true, but that's my question, is this alpha stuff now working or not? [08:33] so its hard ti tell [08:34] will anything have changed from thursday? [08:34] depends.. [08:34] alpha could break at any time [08:34] pfft, i'll try it and come back here with yay or nay [08:34] or get fixed at any time [08:35] ive had very few issues with this alpha [08:35] well in the words of arnold [08:35] i'll be back === Chipaca` is now known as Chipaca [09:55] 'Delete' key isn't deleting selected items in 11.10 on latest updated - bug or feature? [09:56] feature, Nautilus the file manager has shifted to Ctrl+Delete to delete stuff [09:57] or bug, I don't like it but it's intentional [09:57] a feature that's a bug, is that called a beature? [09:59] thanks jbicha [09:59] Is Delete being used for anything else? [10:00] no, apparently people accidently pressed the delete key [10:01] Peculiar but alright. I hope the reviews will take this kindly. [10:01] Thanks for answering :) [11:03] anyway to use indicator-applet-complete in gnome-panel for fallback session ? [12:35] gna I finally figured out my opera flash plugin problem ... [12:35] I forgot to update my apparmor profile ._. [12:37] after I started using multiarch for Skype dependencies aptitude started marking non-existing conflicts, what can I do about that [12:37] anyone know how to get flash support? When I try to install flashplugin-nonfree, aptitude tells me that nspluginwrapper is required, but is a virtual package [12:42] dsdale do you have multiarch enabled'? [12:42] jtaylor: don't know. how do I enable it? [12:43] also: why do I need to enable it? There is a 64-bit flash player available [12:43] not in the official repos [12:43] echo foreign-architecture i386 | sudo tee /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch; sudo apt-get update [12:44] thanks [12:47] hm weird I gave opera ptrace capability but it still won't work ._. [12:47] stupid opera, what does it need ptrace for anyway ... [12:52] Hiyas all === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [16:10] What kernels are supported with jockey? [16:11] Since... I get again a pathetic excuse that it doesn't work. [16:24] fasta: All of them here are supported with jockey [16:24] Even the 3.0.0-9-generic [16:25] If I could only do good with the GUI for Users and Groups :( [16:25] charlie-tca: but it doesn't work. [16:25] Why? It does work for me [16:27] charlie-tca: I can paste the log, but I don't know why. If I knew, I wouldn't be asking. [16:29] charlie-tca: http://paste.debian.net/127016/ [16:30] Latest dist-upgrade broke audio (again) on sandy bridge laptop, Aspire 3830TG, Conexant ID 506c. [16:31] fasta: that's not a virtual machine install, is it? [16:31] charlie-tca: no [16:32] charlie-tca: if I run the binary from ATI, it crashes when I want to make a disto specific package. [16:32] I don't know then. Hopefully someone else does. It looks like it can't find the drivers in the repositories. [16:32] charlie-tca: it is just one miserable pile of failure. [16:33] charlie-tca: do you know how to solve my other mtrr problem? [16:33] no, sorry [16:33] All I can do is verify jockey should be working, I guess. [16:34] What does that mean? [16:34] You asked above what kernels are supported by jockey. I can tell you "all of them so far" [16:58] Hello all! [17:00] Have a weird issue where Unity 2d works fine but regular Unity gives me a black screen sometimes unless I move my mouse around and I get these big black bars over my top panel, unity panel, and the top panel of say opened programs... any ideas what's wrong? === mrslv_ is now known as mrslv [17:15] Vanillalite: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/819144 [17:15] Ubuntu bug 819144 in unity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[fglrx] everything is black and blinks when using unity" [High,Confirmed] [17:15] I also have the problem and know no solution [17:16] Thanks for the bug link tho! [17:17] At least I know it isn't just me and can follow the bug track to see what I can do to help and the status of being fixed! [17:25] after I activated multiarch for i386 aptitude started marking a non-existing conflict. Between qt4-gui and qt4-qui:i386 [17:25] for instance synaptic have no problem with this [17:40] flashplugin-installer doesn't seem to want to install for me in +1... It seems a dependency on nspluginviewer which no longer exists ? [17:40] Log a bug then. [17:40] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash [17:41] to get 64 bit flash [17:42] high-rez, 64 bit OS ? [17:42] BluesKaj: Yep. About to try Ian_Corne's suggestion :) [17:42] high-rez, yup, go for it ..it should work [17:56] any showstoppers with oneiric? /me is thinking about updating his production machine already. [17:57] blueyed, a production machine ...too risky for that [17:57] are there any serious, well known and unresolved issues with oneiric now ? I thought I'd have another attempt at upgrading my laptop. [17:58] jo-erlend_: just what I am thinking about. [17:58] BluesKaj: thanks for holding me back. [17:58] the last time I tried, I couldn't get X up at all. [17:59] Well, wifi and audio on modern sandybridge laptops has been challenging, but was mostly solved last month, but yesterday I lost audio again. Not critical, but annoying. [17:59] I was always using alpha/beta during the last years, but am just enjoying a fresh install (since 2004) [18:00] I could dd-copy/backup the partition to the ubiquity-based instance on the same machine, and would have an image to go back to. [18:13] blueyed, dd-copy/backup sounds like an idea , but is it worth the trouble [18:28] BluesKaj: not really. I will just wait and get to know the current kinks and hope for them to be fixed in the next release.. :) [18:31] blueyed, right , I meant in it's present state [18:43] Sweet, that did it. Thanks guys. [18:43] Will 64bit flash be integrated into 11.10 at some point or will it still be a PPA ? [18:44] It should be in there now. [18:45] Like I said earlier, if you can't install due to a broken dependency, then you should log a bug. [18:46] yeah, it's... [18:46] ndiskwrapper, I think? [18:46] nspluginwrapper? [18:46] or viewer? [18:46] I don't remember :) Lemme check. [18:46] it's viewer causing the error [18:46] nspluginwrapper won't install because of nspluginviewer [18:47] nope, yep, it's viewer. [18:47] use the PPA for now and file a bug [18:48] No PPA for me! [18:48] I'm trying to keep this as stock as I can [18:48] no flash for you! [18:48] * IdleOne sees h00k with redeye [18:48] NEXT [18:49] no sound in lxde? [18:49] unity isn't working for me atm [18:50] IdleOne: yeah, I can make it! [18:56] high-rez: the 64-bit Flash won't be in Ubuntu until it hits a final release [18:56] Ahh ok [18:56] Adobe has a bad tendency to not support beta software, their last 64-bit plugin didn't get security updates for instance [18:57] that was alpha i think :) [19:18] the last 2 flash releases have been 64-bit side-by-side with the 32-bit [19:19] but it doesn't matter as ubuntu is now multiarch and you can use the 32-bit flash without nspluginwrapper gumming up the works [19:24] but i need nspluginwrapper [19:24] how am i supposed to patch the bugs without it? [19:26] ali1234: did you enable the 32-bit repositories? [19:26] hmm is multiarch actually upto installing a 32bit chromium or firefox and all libraries on a 64bit system yet? [19:27] jbicha_: you don't understand, i need nspluginwrapper to load patched libraries just for flash, to make it work properly [19:29] penguin42: it appears no, apt-get install firefox:i386 will ahve unmet dependencies [19:30] sound seems to be broken? [19:32] pulseaudo restart fixed it [19:34] flash is broken. [19:34] Isn't flash *always* broken?? [19:34] Yep. [19:34] well, by definition ;) [19:35] Ian_Corne: Yeh I've had a few pa restarts needed in the last couple of days [19:35] jtaylor: It'll be nice when it is, but until then I guess we just still need nspluginwrapper [19:36] h00k, if you have 64 bit then add this ppa , sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash [19:36] BluesKaj: yeah, I know ;) [19:36] ok [19:36] BluesKaj: I'm not going to, I'm just going to wait for it to be fixed [19:36] BluesKaj: staying away from PPAs while I am testing things [19:37] h00k, one could ask , will it ever be fixed ? :) [19:37] BluesKaj: mebbe [19:37] and yeah, I'm on 64bit. [19:39] one can alaways delete ppas once the app is "official" [19:46] well with Flash being closed source, it's unclear whether the bugs will get fixed [19:46] IMHO the current problem isn't a flash bug, it looks more like nsplugin* [20:00] hi, I got error when dist-upgrade according flash plugin [20:01] nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so [20:01] dependencies problem, and some my langague translated infos [20:01] would you like helping me with this? [20:02] the flash is being download from this link http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_10.3.183.4.orig.tar.gz [20:03] 64bit sandy bridge platform [20:03] did something change with the SDL package in Oneiric? http://bugs.launchpad.net/luz/+bug/830733 [20:03] Ubuntu bug 830733 in Luz "Cannot build Luz on Ubuntu Oneiric" [Undecided,Incomplete] [20:03] farciarz84, you could try , sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash [20:05] BluesKaj: which package should I install now? [20:06] farciarz84, or you could choose one here https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash/+packages [20:10] farciarz84, heh , yeah , that's the same site as you poated :) [20:10] err posted [20:13] BluesKaj: thx for help, I've installed 11.X version and everything seems to work [20:14] farciarz84, well, you were already halfway there :) [20:15] dbus is broken too it seems [20:15] anyone confirm? [20:16] not booted/upgrded my system in like 2 weeks... :) scary.. [20:17] ianm_, when you get "undefined reference to" errors in a build it's usually because of mismatched code, so old code vs. new code and whatnot [20:18] when the rc will be lanunched? [20:18] !schedule [20:18] A schedule of Oneiric Ocelot (11.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule [20:18] bjsnider: seems like the build is missing SDL entirely, though I don't have an Oneiric box to test [20:19] there's going to be an sdl-dev package that takes care of that [20:19] could someone on Oneiric try: pkg-config sdl --cflags --libs [20:20] oh it's likely that the package name changed [20:20] it was libsdl1.2-dev previously [20:20] games should switch to pulse [20:21] using pulseaudio? [20:21] Luz uses SDL for graphics [20:22] i must have gotten it confused with audio [20:22] it does audio as well [20:22] ok I'll keep my finger crossed for you. Thx for your hard work, 12.04 will be better then OSX and 11.10 then ms win ever. [20:23] well, they should switch to pulse [20:23] I'm restarting my machine, hope everything will be fine after dist-upgrade [20:26] also my keybindings don't work in unity 2D [20:30] and the PA thing is plenty annoying [20:37] there are all kinds of pulseaudio problems ...wish it was optional instead of default [20:39] how to check wich intel driver gpu has been installed? [20:39] which* [20:41] farciarz84: /var/log/Xorg.0.log shows the X startup [20:41] farciarz84: To my knowledge there is practially only one driver [20:42] well, there's vesa too [20:42] farciarz84: sudo lshw -C video also shows a line starting with: configuration: which has what driver is loaded for that video card [20:42] good evening darlings! [20:42] hello [20:42] farciarz84, dpkg -l | grep intel [20:43] farciarz84, or at or nvidia [20:43] ati [20:43] hey BUGabundo [20:45] ok 2.2.15 they changed a lot and looks some major bugs were fixed [20:46] I have some issue with recent distro system-settings. Messageing and VoiP Accounts are unable to add/remove from account list. The =/- buttons are not working. [20:46] +/- * [20:47] also the import button doesn't work correct [20:48] Is is some common bug or not working only for me? [20:49] I've sent the bug to your tracking system. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [23:01] okay, I gave in and grabed the ppa. [23:02] let' [23:02] s see how flash64 works. [23:02] Angry Birds in G+ works - what else is there to say? [23:05] hey, look at that. [23:09] penguin42: needs more levels [23:12] http://liliputing.com/2011/08/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-an-hp-touchpad.html [23:17] oops, sorry - wrong window