| hallowed | hey, | 03:51 |
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| hallowed | what is the easiest way to do the equivalent of 'remote desktop' with ubuntu? | 03:52 |
| hallowed | via ssh...then how would one go about forwarding the gui? | 03:52 |
| fabricator4 | For a terminal session ssh | 03:52 |
| hallowed | the whole gui | 03:53 |
| hallowed | i remember it was X..something | 03:53 |
| fabricator4 | there's a remote desktop available... Never used it. | 03:53 |
| hallowed | hmmm | 03:53 |
| hallowed | remmina? | 03:54 |
| fabricator4 | Under system -> preferences there's settings for "remote desktop" | 03:54 |
| hallowed | ok | 03:54 |
| hallowed | do you know what protocol it uses | 03:55 |
| head_victim | VNC from memory | 03:55 |
| hallowed | ok, i was going to ssh then forward gui | 03:55 |
| fabricator4 | Looks like an old tute: http://www.howtoforge.com/configure-remote-access-to-your-ubuntu-desktop | 03:55 |
| hallowed | be more secure wouldn't it... | 03:56 |
| hallowed | righto, sounds simple enough | 03:56 |
| hallowed | work from windows/mac? | 03:56 |
| fabricator4 | Don't know, but there's tutes on that too... | 03:57 |
| hallowed | k | 03:58 |
| head_victim | !vnc | 03:59 |
| lubotu2 | VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX | 03:59 |
| head_victim | That should do it ;) | 03:59 |
| fabricator4 | :-) | 03:59 |
| hallowed | sounds nice | 04:00 |
| fabricator4 | System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications -> Remote Desktop | 04:00 |
| head_victim | Yeah there's always HEAPS of documentation floating around. It's just a matter of finding the right set to follow. | 04:01 |
| hallowed | so !VNC come with ubuntu or is a package i need to download? | 04:01 |
| head_victim | It's all in the link. Most of it should already be there or easily installed with apt-get (or the software centre) | 04:01 |
| hallowed | ok | 04:02 |
| hallowed | how many og you guys installed gnome on natty? | 04:02 |
| hallowed | much better! | 04:03 |
| head_victim | I don't have natty installed anywhere. I have 10.04 on this pc and 11.10 on virtualbox installs | 04:03 |
| hallowed | oh..... | 04:03 |
| fabricator4 | No, tried Debian for a while though. Same problems as Unity, but looks pretty. | 04:03 |
| head_victim | Yeah as many people that complain about Unity I've heard the same number complain about gnome-shell. The beauty of linux, you can choose what you like. | 04:04 |
| hallowed | Unity is too clumsy | 04:04 |
| hallowed | Yeah | 04:04 |
| fabricator4 | Let's just forget about 25 years OO GUI development and go with a dock... | 04:04 |
| head_victim | I want a little more config in Unity, but I'm thinking 12.04 will be the one I really test out. | 04:04 |
| hallowed | whens 12.04 due? | 04:05 |
| head_victim | Worst case scenario, I move to LXDE | 04:05 |
| fabricator4 | 12.04 :-) | 04:05 |
| head_victim | hallowed: April 2012 :) | 04:05 |
| hallowed | isn't it still6 month releases | 04:05 |
| fabricator4 | 11.10 in October, then 12.04 in April | 04:06 |
| hallowed | k | 04:06 |
| fabricator4 | Lxde is a bit minimal. I like though... | 04:06 |
| hallowed | what is lxde? | 04:07 |
| hallowed | debian based? | 04:07 |
| head_victim | !lxde | 04:07 |
| head_victim | Awww it doesn't have that | 04:07 |
| fabricator4 | :-) hahah | 04:07 |
| head_victim | !lubuntu | 04:07 |
| lubotu2 | lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. | 04:07 |
| head_victim | It's another desktop environment, like gnome or kde. | 04:07 |
| fabricator4 | Tried Kde, null pointer crashes here... | 04:08 |
| hallowed | ya | 04:08 |
| fabricator4 | <head_victim> you work shifts? | 04:09 |
| hallowed | so are guys part of the ubuntu australia mob or just into ubuntu? | 04:10 |
| head_victim | Indeed I do. | 04:10 |
| head_victim | hallowed: both :) | 04:10 |
| fabricator4 | both | 04:10 |
| hallowed | ahha | 04:10 |
| hallowed | i checked out some screenshots of lxde | 04:12 |
| hallowed | looks nice | 04:12 |
| hallowed | very clean | 04:13 |
| head_victim | I found it for when I needed some P4s to work snapp | 04:13 |
| head_victim | snappy* | 04:13 |
| fabricator4 | It is. Xubuntu (Xde) isn't bad either | 04:13 |
| hallowed | for lubuntu where its version is 11.04 | 04:14 |
| head_victim | I found very little performance difference between gnome and xfce | 04:14 |
| hallowed | does that mean its built on ubuntu 11.04? just new GUI | 04:14 |
| fabricator4 | hallowed: correct | 04:14 |
| head_victim | hallowed: it's all Ubuntu, just different GUIs | 04:14 |
| head_victim | With varying feature sets. | 04:14 |
| hallowed | but i can get gnome individually but it looks like lubunut only comes as lubuntu! lol | 04:15 |
| head_victim | I actually spent 30 mins last night at work discussing translation with a guy at work. He couldn't understand how you could just go and fix something when you find it broken and everyone would have it fixed. | 04:15 |
| hallowed | can i get the lxde package and just install? | 04:15 |
| fabricator4 | Hallowed: Yes | 04:15 |
| hallowed | nice | 04:16 |
| hallowed | looks like kde to me - hopefully it does run snappy! | 04:16 |
| head_victim | hallowed: just type "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" into a terminal and you can then log into it when you next go to log into your computer | 04:16 |
| hallowed | I might come to this channel more often! | 04:17 |
| hallowed | good for learning | 04:17 |
| head_victim | We're here to help | 04:17 |
| fabricator4 | http://sourceforge.net/projects/lxde/files/ | 04:17 |
| head_victim | And if we're not here, just try the mailing list | 04:17 |
| hallowed | natty comes with IRC client ya? | 04:18 |
| fabricator4 | Yes, but I prefer Xchat | 04:18 |
| head_victim | Yep, I personally use Xchat | 04:18 |
| hallowed | i read ages ago that xchat on windoes i think was unsecure... :: | 04:19 |
| fabricator4 | Windows in unsecure :-) | 04:19 |
| hallowed | :) | 04:19 |
| hallowed | righto then | 04:19 |
| fabricator4 | People use adminstrative logins all the time. | 04:19 |
| fabricator4 | I believe Windows 7 addresses that. | 04:20 |
| hallowed | oh no :0 | 04:20 |
| hallowed | all that *right clicking 'run as admin'* | 04:20 |
| fabricator4 | That's it :-) | 04:20 |
| fabricator4 | Took 'em 30 years to learn that. | 04:21 |
| hallowed | winows was around b4 unix tho ya? | 04:21 |
| hallowed | *windows | 04:21 |
| fabricator4 | No, But DOS was | 04:22 |
| fabricator4 | Those were the days... | 04:22 |
| hallowed | u saying unix was around b4 dos? | 04:22 |
| fabricator4 | Actually, AT&T had things happening with a portable system in the 70's | 04:23 |
| fabricator4 | Heard of Kernigan and Ritchie? | 04:23 |
| hallowed | no | 04:24 |
| fabricator4 | The Linus Torvolds of the 60/70s | 04:24 |
| hallowed | ahha | 04:24 |
| fabricator4 | You can trace the origins of *nix all the way back to K & R | 04:25 |
| hallowed | :o | 04:25 |
| hallowed | where did dos originate then? | 04:25 |
| fabricator4 | Digital Research, sometime around 1970 | 04:26 |
| fabricator4 | William Gates used to work for DResearch | 04:26 |
| fabricator4 | When IBM wanted a CP/M type OS for their PC, up he popped. The rest, as they say, is history. | 04:27 |
| fabricator4 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Kernighan | 04:27 |
| hallowed | how long u used linux/unix? | 04:28 |
| fabricator4 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie | 04:28 |
| fabricator4 | First used it in the early 90's | 04:28 |
| hallowed | long time... | 04:28 |
| fabricator4 | Didn't use it at home until Ubuntu 8 something or other. | 04:29 |
| hallowed | yeah thats what i first installed i think | 04:29 |
| hallowed | but when i installed it it was old already! | 04:29 |
| hallowed | one of the free discs canonical used to post out | 04:30 |
| fabricator4 | In the early 90's *nix only supported SCSI drive systems, so not suitable for home PCs | 04:30 |
| hallowed | do you pronounce scsi as SCUZZI? | 04:30 |
| fabricator4 | Yep | 04:31 |
| hallowed | ah ha | 04:31 |
| fabricator4 | Stands for.... ? | 04:31 |
| hallowed | nope -.- | 04:31 |
| fabricator4 | Small Computer Systems Interface | 04:31 |
| fabricator4 | !scsi | 04:31 |
| hallowed | nevder had a box with scuzzi | 04:31 |
| hallowed | what is that exclamation mar mean? | 04:32 |
| hallowed | everyone on here uses them? | 04:32 |
| fabricator4 | Trying to get the info bot to give a definition | 04:32 |
| fabricator4 | !SCSI | 04:32 |
| hallowed | oh cool | 04:32 |
| hallowed | does it work for anything? | 04:33 |
| fabricator4 | !ubuntu | 04:33 |
| lubotu2 | Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com | 04:33 |
| hallowed | OMG | 04:33 |
| hallowed | !PC | 04:33 |
| hallowed | not work | 04:33 |
| fabricator4 | !SSH | 04:33 |
| lubotu2 | SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon) | 04:33 |
| hallowed | does it pull definitions out of database? | 04:33 |
| fabricator4 | Must do | 04:34 |
| hallowed | !TCP | 04:34 |
| hallowed | still not work | 04:34 |
| fabricator4 | !TCPIP | 04:34 |
| fabricator4 | Too basic. | 04:34 |
| hallowed | ah | 04:34 |
| fabricator4 | !TCP/IP | 04:35 |
| fabricator4 | Nope | 04:35 |
| hallowed | you heard of airstream | 04:35 |
| hallowed | pretty cool | 04:35 |
| fabricator4 | No | 04:35 |
| hallowed | huge wifi network | 04:35 |
| hallowed | covers like a state | 04:35 |
| hallowed | they link towns with directionals and stuff | 04:36 |
| hallowed | pretty neat | 04:36 |
| fabricator4 | Cool | 04:36 |
| hallowed | all users can go on the mini network | 04:36 |
| hallowed | free of course once your on there | 04:36 |
| fabricator4 | Speed? | 04:37 |
| hallowed | i think its just fast wifi | 04:37 |
| hallowed | depends where you weer i guess | 04:37 |
| fabricator4 | Expensive to set up, cheap to run | 04:37 |
| hallowed | yeah hey | 04:37 |
| hallowed | always thought of making something similar | 04:38 |
| hallowed | even just a really long point to point | 04:38 |
| hallowed | free phone calls! | 04:38 |
| fabricator4 | this it? http://www.air-stream.org.au/ | 04:38 |
| hallowed | looks like it - i think there is spin offs in WA etc cos i remember seeing a map of coverage way out of perth | 04:40 |
| hallowed | which state you in? | 04:40 |
| fabricator4 | Qld | 04:40 |
| hallowed | wow | 04:40 |
| hallowed | tropical | 04:40 |
| hallowed | in wa here | 04:40 |
| fabricator4 | Raining and blowing a gale | 04:40 |
| hallowed | ahh no | 04:40 |
| hallowed | that cyclone way back must have been crazy | 04:41 |
| fabricator4 | That was up north | 04:41 |
| fabricator4 | I'm near Brisbane | 04:41 |
| hallowed | ahah | 04:41 |
| hallowed | oh well | 04:42 |
| hallowed | i will come on here some time in the future | 04:42 |
| fabricator4 | Now worries, someone is always here (usually) | 04:42 |
| hallowed | cya | 04:42 |
| fabricator4 | bye | 04:42 |
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| hallowed | hey folks | 08:46 |
| hallowed | i am chasing a benchmark/stress test program for ubuntu | 08:46 |
| hallowed | just overclocking an old mobo | 08:46 |
| hallowed | and got the 1386 ubuntu disc ready... | 08:47 |
| hallowed | *i386 | 08:47 |
| hallowed | i have never benchmarked using ubuntu - any ideas | 08:48 |
| fabricator4 | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/stress.1.html | 08:48 |
| fabricator4 | Might be an old reference. I haven't done it either. | 08:48 |
| head_victim | phronix have a bench test suite for linux from memory | 08:49 |
| head_victim | Depends on what you want to test | 08:49 |
| fabricator4 | Most of my old machines, I try NOT to stress them too much :-) | 08:49 |
| hallowed | cheers | 08:51 |
| hallowed | the program "stress" sounds nice - just got the package | 08:51 |
| fabricator4 | Hey that's not a bad program for testing. Might have a look myself. CPU torture anyone? | 08:52 |
| hallowed | we will see how hot it gets... :) | 08:52 |
| head_victim | If it's just cpu I use burnP6 | 08:52 |
| fabricator4 | You can target different areas, CPU, Memory mallocs, io sync | 08:52 |
| hallowed | yeah looks good | 08:53 |
| hallowed | but how keep a check on temp & CPU usage? | 08:54 |
| hallowed | or does it show that aswell? | 08:54 |
| hallowed | in windows everst dows the trick | 08:54 |
| hallowed | *everest | 08:54 |
| fabricator4 | No idea. You might need to display temp separately. | 08:54 |
| hallowed | any apps built into ubuntu? system properties perhaps... | 08:55 |
| fabricator4 | Not that I know of. I use Gkrellm for system monitoring | 08:56 |
| head_victim | lm-sensors | 08:57 |
| head_victim | !sensors | 08:57 |
| lubotu2 | To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions. | 08:57 |
| hallowed | thanks | 08:59 |
| head_victim | No worries, I'm just sitting here trying to work out how I can make google send me reminders about birthdays. Apparently it's not as easy as I thought. | 09:00 |
| hallowed | :) | 09:00 |
| hallowed | someone needs to call it a day...! | 09:01 |
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| Tonjevic | Yo | 20:25 |
| Tonjevic | I was just wondering what this team does | 20:25 |
| Tonjevic | hrm, well, having read some of your website, I guess I've answered my own question! | 20:33 |
| Tonjevic | apologies for popping into the channel at such an early hour :) | 20:33 |
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