| airurando | morning | 10:10 |
|---|---|---|
| czajkowski | alolha | 10:18 |
| slashtom | good morning | 10:26 |
| slashtom | how long until your home cztab? | 10:26 |
| czajkowski | tomorrow morning | 10:27 |
| czajkowski | :) | 10:27 |
| slashtom | you're* | 10:27 |
| slashtom | good good | 10:27 |
| slashtom | so by tomorrow evening your desire for supermacs will have waned | 10:28 |
| czajkowski | indeed | 10:30 |
| czajkowski | followed by taytos | 10:30 |
| czajkowski | red lemonade | 10:30 |
| ebel | apparently tk red lemonade has some additative that makes it illegal to ship across EU borders. | 10:35 |
| czajkowski | aye | 10:35 |
| czajkowski | seemingly some shop in north london sells it | 10:35 |
| czajkowski | but you've to buy 15 bottles at a time | 10:35 |
| ebel | hahahaha | 10:35 |
| slashtom | red lemonade sounds quite vile | 10:40 |
| czajkowski | it's alien to english folks | 10:44 |
| czajkowski | they ask for lemonade | 10:45 |
| czajkowski | and you get white stuff | 10:45 |
| AlanBell | you can get expensive taytos in Waxy O'Connors | 10:46 |
| czajkowski | indeed | 10:46 |
| czajkowski | but I'd end up on the beer if I go in there :) | 10:46 |
| AlanBell | cheaper than the water | 10:47 |
| AlanBell | I got a round of drinks, one person asked for still water, it was £4.50 | 10:47 |
| AlanBell | presumably it had been gargled by Irish mermaids | 10:48 |
| ebel | "tap water" being the magic phrase | 10:50 |
| * slashtom hasn't quite gone native yet: no to red lemonade and i need to be drunk before going into supermacs | 10:52 | |
| AlanBell | my last full day here today, not had red lemonade yet, might get some to educate the offspring | 10:53 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski is bringing me a plane over tomorrow so I can get back to the UK | 10:54 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: you heading back and kids staying ? | 10:55 |
| AlanBell | no, we are all going back together | 10:55 |
| czajkowski | ahh I was gonna say give em red lemonade and cream soda | 10:56 |
| AlanBell | or at least that is the plan as I understand it :) | 10:56 |
| czajkowski | and have em bouncing off walls | 10:56 |
| dax_roc | Any one using tmux here ? | 11:09 |
| dax_roc | *tmux & irssi + nicklist.pl | 11:10 |
| czajkowski | never heard of it | 11:13 |
| ebel | tmux is like gnu screen. | 11:13 |
| dax_roc | No its more powerful | 11:13 |
| * ebel sometimes uses screen. tmux i have no idea about it | 11:14 | |
| ebel | dax_roc: can tmux 'screen' an already running process? | 11:14 |
| dax_roc | you can use screen inside a tmux window? | 11:14 |
| dax_roc | with tmux you can split a terminal vertical and horizontal, have multiple windows with multiple panes . Script it's startup to log you into all servers etc run cmds etc | 11:15 |
| dax_roc | really nice for monitoring servers etc | 11:16 |
| ebel | sounds like screen. | 11:16 |
| ebel | you can split windows with screen (maybe only one way) | 11:17 |
| dax_roc | ebel: yes if you can attach to it from the cli you can reattach in a tmux window | 11:17 |
| ebel | you can reattach a screen session from a different machine.... | 11:17 |
| dax_roc | screen has a lot of legacy code, there is a patch to do the spliting | 11:18 |
| dax_roc | ebel: oh yeah , thats no problem you can have it open on more than one | 11:18 |
| ebel | if i ssh into a server and forget to use screen, and i start a long running process, there's no easy way to put that process into a screen session. | 11:18 |
| ebel | is that possible with tmux? | 11:18 |
| ebel | I have sometimes started long processes on a server and then i want to go home (so close the ssh connection), but if i do that the long running process stops | 11:19 |
| ebel | twould be cool if you could 'screen' an existing process | 11:19 |
| dax_roc | ebel: not sure of that, but you could set a tmux session to auto launch on login. and ask you do you want to continue running the session on logout ? | 11:19 |
| ebel | nah, i know you can detach a screen session and log out, that's the point of screen. | 11:20 |
| ebel | I sometimes start screen with "ssh somehost -t screen -RD". i dislike having it start on log in. | 11:21 |
| dax_roc | I think you can fork a running process to the background anyway. Never used it tbh | 11:21 |
| ebel | but "screen an existing process" would be a killer feature. | 11:21 |
| ebel | you can background a process and then 'disown' it, but then it's hard to view the stdout (unless you start it piping) or it's hard to interact with the process. | 11:21 |
| dax_roc | if you can fork it, all you need to do is attach to the process in a screen / tmux session | 11:22 |
| dax_roc | ebel: i've used screen for years. I now moving to tmux tho :D ( 1 week testing ) | 11:23 |
| ebel | oh? cool. | 11:23 |
| ebel | (and technically i think all processes fork from the original shell, that's how they get a different process id/pid :P ) | 11:24 |
| dax_roc | ebel: simple test would be run top && and try attach it to a screen/tmux session I guess | 11:26 |
| dax_roc | ebel: take a look at retty | 11:32 |
| dax_roc | ebel: also neercs ? not sure on either, let me know if they work :D | 11:56 |
| airurando | evening | 20:10 |
| airurando | oh dear.... gruppy.com has a kids channel now. more reasons to spend! | 20:44 |
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