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[08:53] <Howie> me again
[08:56] <Howie> i.said I'd be back and I came back
[08:57] <Howie> AlanBell ^^
[08:58] <Howie>  ahh here we go
[09:03] <Howie> Ill come back.later
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[16:30] <Pici> jpds: around? It looks like ubot4 quit the other day and hasn't been back since.
[16:45] <pleia2> yeah, the server exploded a bit (may actually need to find a new home for it, 512M box with a bit too much running on it)
[18:36] <Pici> pleia2: Do we have an eta for that server? Just wondering if I need to bother someone else to get another bot up.
[18:36] <pleia2> Pici: it's up right now and can be used for the next few weeks
[18:37] <pleia2> jpds can start the bot whenever
[18:37] <Pici> pleia2: I'll bother him then.
[18:37] <h00k> If it's not terribly intensive, I have a small dockstar with attached storage I'd loan to hosting if necessary ;)
[18:38] <h00k> it's got a good spot under my couch.
[18:38] <pleia2> supybot can be a bit hefty
[18:40] <h00k> It's one of these: http://goo.gl/b7UD3
[18:40] <h00k> I also have a spare dualcore laptop, 3gb ram.
[18:41] <Pici> That looks like a doorstop.
[18:41] <h00k> Pici: it's pretty sweet, currently boots Debian off a 1tb external I have on it.
[18:42] <h00k> s/on/attached to/
[18:43] <h00k> anyway, I'd set something up for hosting, get anyone who manages it access, if it's important.
[21:03] <m4v> supybot can use between ~50mb (our bot in u-es) to ~100mb (any lubotu) of ram. The extreme is ubottu which can use 200mb.
[21:12] <h00k> I should see what that deskstar has
[21:13] <m4v> we still have to figure out if the high ram usage is supybot's or our plugins' fault :(
[21:13] <marienz> debugging python memory usage is awkward (meliae should help but I haven't played with it yet)
[21:15] <m4v> yeah, I played with guppy but I couldn't figure out how to use it... I tried meliae but I got segfaults only :(
[21:22] <marienz> meliae should be a bit friendlier than heapy
[21:22] <marienz> I've used heapy but it's much more useful for a process you can sensibly freeze
[21:22] <marienz> you don't really want to use heapy on a running supybot, while meliae can do dumps you can process externally
[21:30] <m4v> I see, I'll have to look meliae again.
[22:54] <tsimpson> who want's useless info, well you'll get it anyway: ubottu using 194m (RES), which is nearly 10% of our available memory. all the supybot's together are using over 740MB, spread over 10 bots, so ~74MB per-bot
[22:55] <tsimpson> python/supybot is far from light-weight
[22:55] <pleia2> not useless, thanks tsimpson :)