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keffie_jayx | hello all | 09:36 |
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trinikrono | goodmornings :D | 11:07 |
czajkowski | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1186/detail/ release party has been added to the LD | 13:30 |
keffie_jayx | Daviey: ping | 15:35 |
Daviey | keffie_jayx: hola | 15:38 |
keffie_jayx | Daviey: I have som django code to include in LD. It involves random publichs to twitter, identica or facebook. Who could I talk to | 15:39 |
keffie_jayx | status updates | 15:39 |
keffie_jayx | publishing random pulled eventos from next events | 15:40 |
Daviey | keffie_jayx: mhall119, cjohnston and nigelb are all good chaps. | 15:40 |
Daviey | keffie_jayx: I would have a demo site people can sniff it at, and get a branch ready :) | 15:40 |
keffie_jayx | I send an email to the list asking what would be less intrussive | 15:40 |
keffie_jayx | Daviey: testing involves having accounts or pages on facebook twitter and identica | 15:41 |
cjohnston | keffie_jayx: the best way to do it would be to propose a merge.. and if you have a demo site.. how similar is it to what is already on LD? | 15:41 |
mhall119 | Daviey: lies | 15:41 |
cjohnston | and, just contact mhall119 | 15:41 |
mhall119 | :P | 15:41 |
keffie_jayx | It really does not add that much in the interface | 15:42 |
keffie_jayx | it is all done under the hood adding some variables in local_settings.py | 15:42 |
Daviey | cjohnston: did you just repeat what i said? :) | 15:42 |
keffie_jayx | and running some commands in cron | 15:42 |
cjohnston | Daviey: you said ton contact me.. so I said my response.. which may have been yours :-P | 15:43 |
Daviey | pah | 15:43 |
keffie_jayx | ok | 15:43 |
keffie_jayx | quick poll while you are all here | 15:43 |
* Daviey poll vaults outta here. | 15:43 | |
keffie_jayx | does it make sense to have events published regurlarly to twitter identica facebook if so with what frequency? | 15:43 |
keffie_jayx | every hour? | 15:44 |
Daviey | keffie_jayx: duplicate announcements? | 15:44 |
cjohnston | wait.. its going to those venues, not displaying stuff on our site from those venues... hmm.. | 15:44 |
cjohnston | i on that topic, I'd bring it up in the ML.. sorry.. I misread the idea.. i dunno | 15:45 |
keffie_jayx | Is there a LocoDirectory Twitter account with annoucements? | 15:45 |
keffie_jayx | Daviey: I am sorry I misunderstood | 15:45 |
cjohnston | I think there kinda is, but its rarely used. mhall119 could speak to that | 15:45 |
keffie_jayx | ahhh see, I was not aware of it, How did I miss it... :S | 15:46 |
keffie_jayx | thanks guys I will speak to mhall119 then... | 15:46 |
mhall119 | there's a status.net account, I'm not sure about twitter | 15:47 |
Daviey | keffie_jayx: a diff might help explain your idea ;) | 15:49 |
Daviey | Geeks tend to grok proof of concept code better than explaing stuff :) | 15:50 |
keffie_jayx | Daviey: got it :) | 15:50 |
keffie_jayx | mhall119: wait, http://identi.ca/locodirectory | 15:52 |
keffie_jayx | there is a hashtag that gets fed to the front page | 15:53 |
mhall119 | right, that's independent of any accounts | 15:53 |
keffie_jayx | I am talking about LD posting to twitter | 15:53 |
keffie_jayx | example Status Update | 15:53 |
mhall119 | keffie_jayx: correct | 15:53 |
mhall119 | which means we'll need a twitter account if we don't already have one | 15:53 |
mhall119 | !lococouncil do you guys have an official twitter account? | 15:54 |
mhall119 | !loco-council | 15:54 |
mhall119 | the heck....where's our bot? | 15:54 |
keffie_jayx | This would go to identi.ca @LoCoDirectory Event: "Ubuntu Global Jam - Quito 2011" Sat Sep 3rd, register here: http://urltoeventiinLD... | 15:55 |
keffie_jayx | now to test this I would need to set up accounts and pages in facebook... also register an app on behalf of the ubuntu community in twitter and facebook. identica does not require it | 15:56 |
keffie_jayx | the code is no issue here | 15:56 |
keffie_jayx | we would only need the accounts and fb page ready and test | 15:57 |
keffie_jayx | Does that make sense? | 15:57 |
mhall119 | yup | 15:58 |
mhall119 | do you need a user account for twitter, as well as registering an app? | 15:58 |
keffie_jayx | yes | 15:59 |
keffie_jayx | it would be better if we register the one we are going to use | 16:00 |
keffie_jayx | we would need and email linking to the account | 16:01 |
keffie_jayx | if you want, we can test this on some bogus account with some bogus email | 16:02 |
keffie_jayx | but it'll double the work imho | 16:02 |
keffie_jayx | well | 16:02 |
keffie_jayx | gotta head out | 16:02 |
keffie_jayx | let me know what you think... I mean to work on this tonight | 16:03 |
czajkowski | mhall119: nope | 16:22 |
czajkowski | we don't and I for one don't want one, if the others do fine. but there is nothing we need to use a council twitter ac for imo | 16:22 |
czajkowski | we all use locoteams tag which was a better idea | 16:22 |
mhall119 | czajkowski: okay, I just wanted to check, since we will need one for keffie_jayx's code | 16:26 |
czajkowski | mhall119: you can ask the others, | 16:26 |
czajkowski | I feel we have enough in the blog tbh | 16:26 |
czajkowski | and we have loco contacts lists | 16:27 |
czajkowski | having yet another place to post to is no a good idea | 16:27 |
mhall119 | czajkowski: keffie_jayx's code will automatically publish news about events from LD, no human intervention needed | 16:28 |
czajkowski | I guess not up to me | 16:28 |
czajkowski | ask loco contacts what they want :) | 16:28 |
keffie_jayx | czajkowski: I feel it would be beneficial for the LoCo Directory to spread the word on events automagicaly on social networks | 16:48 |
czajkowski | keffie_jayx: we already do though. | 16:49 |
czajkowski | and each team has their own accounts | 16:49 |
keffie_jayx | czajkowski: manually? | 16:49 |
czajkowski | I do feel you are duplicating things and then people are missing stuff | 16:49 |
czajkowski | keffie_jayx: most locos have their own accounts | 16:49 |
keffie_jayx | That does not necesarily mean they spread the word | 16:50 |
keffie_jayx | and besides before the LD came about, people promoted their events and had registration separate | 16:51 |
czajkowski | keffie_jayx: I know many people follow the @ubuntuie either by following or doing a search | 16:51 |
czajkowski | we post to identi.ca and twitter jut for the sake of identi;ca but few are on there | 16:52 |
keffie_jayx | czajkowski: and @ubuntuie is probably one of the best examples of a locoteam with regards spreading the word | 16:52 |
keffie_jayx | czajkowski: but this is not always the case | 16:52 |
czajkowski | keffie_jayx: nothing stopping you doing what you want for the LD, as mhall119 said create a LD dev ac | 16:53 |
keffie_jayx | also consider the idea of having all streams reminding the world how cool we are and how big we are | 16:53 |
czajkowski | and od it that way | 16:53 |
czajkowski | *do | 16:53 |
keffie_jayx | czajkowski: right, thanks | 16:54 |
czajkowski | keffie_jayx: you don't need my permission to do stuff | 16:54 |
czajkowski | I'm just saying I don't want to have to monitor or check another account | 16:54 |
czajkowski | and the #locoteams tags work well | 16:54 |
czajkowski | dont want the LD being spammed either | 16:54 |
czajkowski | if 14 or more people start to add events on one day, the LD will be messy looking | 16:55 |
keffie_jayx | czajkowski: but we I work, I kinda wan't to make sure what I mean to do makes sense | 16:56 |
keffie_jayx | codingwise, I need to be on the same pages as most devs here | 16:56 |
keffie_jayx | czajkowski: it won't spam if you don't follow the account... | 16:57 |
keffie_jayx | czajkowski: it won't replace the #locoteams hashtag. It is a completelly different task | 16:57 |
czajkowski | keffie_jayx: so what is the point of creating another ac if you have to follow it ? | 16:58 |
keffie_jayx | czajkowski: because it needs to work the way twitter works | 16:58 |
czajkowski | I dont know what you're trying to do if not get people to follow yet another @ubuntu ac when teams already use their own | 16:58 |
czajkowski | I mean I dont need to know what a team outside of my country is doing I can look at the LD site and see | 16:59 |
czajkowski | I dont want my twitter ac full of events I wont be attending either | 16:59 |
keffie_jayx | czajkowski: that is a bit closed minded I think... but that's just me | 17:00 |
czajkowski | it's not | 17:00 |
czajkowski | it's being realistic | 17:00 |
czajkowski | I'm not gonna follow something that tweets events that I wont be going to | 17:00 |
czajkowski | it makes no sense | 17:00 |
czajkowski | sorry | 17:01 |
keffie_jayx | but me as a member of the community would like to learn about events in other parts of the world. and reshare them, maybe even learn from them and start our own | 17:02 |
keffie_jayx | ripple effect a bit... | 17:02 |
keffie_jayx | drive traffic to events in LD | 17:02 |
czajkowski | I guess we have different views | 17:02 |
czajkowski | sorry | 17:02 |
keffie_jayx | yes | 17:03 |
czajkowski | I just dont want my twitter stream full of stuff I cannot attend | 17:03 |
czajkowski | I can just click on the LD and on events | 17:03 |
czajkowski | and see global events | 17:03 |
czajkowski | or I can follow an idividual teams ac | 17:03 |
keffie_jayx | maybe we need someone to check this for us... | 17:03 |
keffie_jayx | mhall119: what do you think... | 17:03 |
keffie_jayx | czajkowski: or List them... not follow them | 17:03 |
keffie_jayx | but that depens on how you use twitter | 17:03 |
czajkowski | exactly | 17:04 |
mhall119 | czajkowski: if you follow the ubuntu-ie twitter account, and someone tweets with @ubuntu-ie, does it show in your stream? | 17:12 |
* mhall119 isn't a big twitter user | 17:13 | |
czajkowski | yes | 17:13 |
mhall119 | ok, so if we have a team's twitter account name, we can just put it in tweets about that team's events | 17:14 |
mhall119 | so you don't have to follow @LoCoDirectory | 17:15 |
czajkowski | that'd be good | 17:16 |
czajkowski | would mean a person wouldn't get tweets about a b c d e f g h events which have nothing to do with them | 17:16 |
mhall119 | unless they wanted to | 17:17 |
mhall119 | so, best of both | 17:17 |
czajkowski | indeed | 17:17 |
czajkowski | though I really cannot see any reason why you would tbh | 17:17 |
mhall119 | some people get obsessed with Ubuntu | 17:18 |
mhall119 | end up in ever IRC channel that matched #ubuntu* | 17:18 |
* mhall119 looks at nigelb | 17:18 | |
czajkowski | yeah... | 17:19 |
czajkowski | no comment so | 17:19 |
mhall119 | besides, we can't post anything to twitter without an account, so it's got to be done | 17:19 |
nigelb | hey, my ubuntu channels are few. | 17:19 |
mhall119 | for large values of "few" | 17:19 |
nigelb | I have huge numbers of others | 17:19 |
keffie_jayx | share buttons on the events page is another way of spreading the word | 17:19 |
nigelb | keffie_jayx: I like tha :) | 17:20 |
nigelb | *that | 17:20 |
keffie_jayx | but we would need design, and decide which share plugins available in django we can use | 17:20 |
czajkowski | ideally if you create an event | 17:20 |
czajkowski | then click tweet this | 17:20 |
czajkowski | or post to FB or twitter would be a nicer way of getting the word out | 17:21 |
czajkowski | or ideally the bug I logged ages ago | 17:21 |
czajkowski | post to mailing list :) | 17:21 |
mhall119 | czajkowski: only if I can put LEP #.... in the ML subject | 17:21 |
mhall119 | ;) | 17:21 |
keffie_jayx | you bug report was tag as a wont fix at some point? | 17:22 |
keffie_jayx | ok | 17:22 |
nigelb | JFDI is our motto. We don't stop anyone going with JFDI for a lot of things. :) | 17:22 |
mhall119 | you know what I'd love? If we would stop getting MemoryErrors on cranberry >:( | 17:22 |
keffie_jayx | mhall119: what version of django is LD currently using? | 17:23 |
* keffie_jayx is kinda living on the edge :S | 17:23 | |
mhall119 | 1.1.2 I believe | 17:23 |
nigelb | mhall119: me too. | 17:24 |
mhall119 | keffie_jayx: there's a requirements.txt that'll setup the correct virtualenv for development and testing | 17:24 |
mhall119 | or you can use the Makefile | 17:24 |
nigelb | mhall119: could you also re-review the % problem branch? | 17:24 |
mhall119 | nigelb: did you fix it? | 17:24 |
nigelb | mhall119: yeah, i resubmitted it. | 17:25 |
keffie_jayx | .. ok I'm off to code czajkowski mhall119 nigelb cjohnston Daviey thanks | 17:25 |
mhall119 | nigelb: the % problem really, really needs test cases | 17:25 |
mhall119 | np keffie_jayx, thanks for being a part ofit | 17:25 |
mhall119 | again, I should so | 17:25 |
mhall119 | say | 17:25 |
czajkowski | which bug was tagged as wont fix ? | 17:26 |
nigelb | mhall119: hhm,okay. | 17:26 |
czajkowski | mhall119: ?? | 17:27 |
mhall119 | czajkowski: I don't know which bug | 17:29 |
* mhall119 is cleaning up summit bugs atm | 17:29 | |
* nigelb hugs mhall119 | 17:29 | |
czajkowski | mhall119: the one about mail teams when an event is created? | 17:29 |
mhall119 | czajkowski: I see bug 538177, which was marked as wishlist | 17:31 |
mhall119 | and bug 806262, which was undecided, but I just marked as wishlist | 17:31 |
mhall119 | I don't see any bug about sending emails that's "Won't Fix" | 17:33 |
czajkowski | aye | 17:38 |
czajkowski | mhall119: if I wanted to create 2 maybe 3 at a push static pages on the LD under the loco council or somewhere clearer how would I do it ? | 19:32 |
mhall119 | czajkowski: right now, either add it to our bzr tree, or attack the text you want to a bug for us to add it, I haven't added the functionality yet to wiki-like content management | 19:35 |
mhall119 | s/attack/attach/ | 19:36 |
mhall119 | though either would work I suppose | 19:36 |
czajkowski | nods | 19:36 |
czajkowski | ok when it's ready I'll poke you | 19:36 |
czajkowski | want to remove making it easy to add content to it | 19:36 |
czajkowski | I dont want it filling up like the wiki pages | 19:36 |
czajkowski | trawling through oodles of pages that are so out of date | 19:36 |
mhall119 | czajkowski: the ability to add content will be restricted to LD devs and LC members | 20:52 |
mhall119 | that was the intent anyway | 20:52 |
mhall119 | for the first round | 20:52 |
czajkowski | nods | 20:52 |
czajkowski | Makes sense tbh | 20:52 |
czajkowski | otherwise it'll get crowded with duff | 20:52 |
mhall119 | there was a suggesetion to allow teams to add pages under their areas, but that would be a second phase | 20:52 |
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