[09:36] <keffie_jayx> hello all
[11:07] <trinikrono> goodmornings :D
[13:30] <czajkowski> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1186/detail/ release party has been added to the LD 
[15:35] <keffie_jayx> Daviey: ping
[15:38] <Daviey> keffie_jayx: hola
[15:39] <keffie_jayx> Daviey: I have som django code to include in LD. It involves random publichs to twitter, identica or facebook. Who could I talk to
[15:39] <keffie_jayx> status updates 
[15:40] <keffie_jayx> publishing random pulled eventos from next events
[15:40] <Daviey> keffie_jayx: mhall119, cjohnston and nigelb are all good chaps.
[15:40] <Daviey> keffie_jayx: I would have a demo site people can sniff it at, and get a branch ready :)
[15:40] <keffie_jayx> I send an email to the list asking what would be less intrussive 
[15:41] <keffie_jayx> Daviey: testing involves having accounts or pages on facebook twitter and identica
[15:41] <cjohnston> keffie_jayx: the best way to do it would be to propose a merge.. and if you have a demo site.. how similar is it to what is already on LD?
[15:41] <mhall119> Daviey: lies
[15:41] <cjohnston> and, just contact mhall119 
[15:41] <mhall119> :P
[15:42] <keffie_jayx> It really does not add that much in the interface
[15:42] <keffie_jayx> it is all done under the hood adding some variables in local_settings.py
[15:42] <Daviey> cjohnston: did you just repeat what i said? :)
[15:42] <keffie_jayx> and running some commands in cron
[15:43] <cjohnston> Daviey: you said ton contact me.. so I said my response.. which may have been yours :-P
[15:43] <Daviey> pah
[15:43] <keffie_jayx> ok
[15:43] <keffie_jayx> quick poll while you are all here
[15:43]  * Daviey poll vaults outta here.
[15:43] <keffie_jayx> does it make sense to have events published regurlarly to twitter identica facebook if so with what frequency?
[15:44] <keffie_jayx> every hour?
[15:44] <Daviey> keffie_jayx: duplicate announcements?
[15:44] <cjohnston> wait.. its going to those venues, not displaying stuff on our site from those venues... hmm..
[15:45] <cjohnston> i on that topic, I'd bring it up in the ML.. sorry.. I misread the idea.. i dunno
[15:45] <keffie_jayx> Is there a LocoDirectory Twitter account with annoucements?
[15:45] <keffie_jayx> Daviey: I am sorry I misunderstood
[15:45] <cjohnston> I think there kinda is, but its rarely used. mhall119 could speak to that
[15:46] <keffie_jayx> ahhh see, I was not aware of it, How did I miss it... :S
[15:46] <keffie_jayx> thanks guys I will speak to mhall119 then...
[15:47] <mhall119> there's a status.net account, I'm not sure about twitter
[15:49] <Daviey> keffie_jayx: a diff might help explain your idea ;)
[15:50] <Daviey> Geeks tend to grok proof of concept code better than explaing stuff :)
[15:50] <keffie_jayx> Daviey: got it :)
[15:52] <keffie_jayx> mhall119: wait, http://identi.ca/locodirectory
[15:53] <keffie_jayx> there is a hashtag that gets fed to the front page
[15:53] <mhall119> right, that's independent of any accounts
[15:53] <keffie_jayx> I am talking about LD posting to twitter
[15:53] <keffie_jayx> example Status Update
[15:53] <mhall119> keffie_jayx: correct
[15:53] <mhall119> which means we'll need a twitter account if we don't already have one
[15:54] <mhall119> !lococouncil do you guys have an official twitter account?
[15:54] <mhall119> !loco-council
[15:54] <mhall119> the heck....where's our bot?
[15:55] <keffie_jayx> This would go to identi.ca @LoCoDirectory Event: "Ubuntu Global Jam - Quito 2011" Sat Sep 3rd, register here: http://urltoeventiinLD...
[15:56] <keffie_jayx> now to test this I would need to set up accounts and pages in facebook... also register an app on behalf of the ubuntu community in twitter and facebook. identica does not require it
[15:56] <keffie_jayx> the code is no issue here
[15:57] <keffie_jayx> we would only need the accounts and fb page ready and test
[15:57] <keffie_jayx> Does that make sense?
[15:58] <mhall119> yup
[15:58] <mhall119> do you need a user account for twitter, as well as registering an app?
[15:59] <keffie_jayx> yes
[16:00] <keffie_jayx> it would be better if we register the one we are going to use
[16:01] <keffie_jayx> we would need and email linking to the account
[16:02] <keffie_jayx> if you want, we can test this on some bogus account with some bogus email
[16:02] <keffie_jayx> but it'll double the work imho
[16:02] <keffie_jayx> well 
[16:02] <keffie_jayx> gotta head out
[16:03] <keffie_jayx> let me know what you think... I mean to work on this tonight
[16:22] <czajkowski> mhall119: nope 
[16:22] <czajkowski> we don't and I for one don't want one, if the others do fine. but there is nothing we need to use a council twitter ac for imo
[16:22] <czajkowski> we all use locoteams tag which was a better idea 
[16:26] <mhall119> czajkowski: okay, I just wanted to check, since we will need one for keffie_jayx's code
[16:26] <czajkowski> mhall119: you can ask the others, 
[16:26] <czajkowski> I feel we have enough in the blog tbh 
[16:27] <czajkowski> and we have loco contacts lists
[16:27] <czajkowski> having yet another place to post to is no a good idea 
[16:28] <mhall119> czajkowski: keffie_jayx's code will automatically publish news about events from LD, no human intervention needed
[16:28] <czajkowski> I guess not up to me 
[16:28] <czajkowski> ask loco contacts what they want :)
[16:48] <keffie_jayx> czajkowski: I feel it would be beneficial for the LoCo Directory to spread the word on events automagicaly on social networks
[16:49] <czajkowski> keffie_jayx: we already do though. 
[16:49] <czajkowski> and each team has their own accounts
[16:49] <keffie_jayx> czajkowski: manually?
[16:49] <czajkowski> I do feel you are duplicating things and then people are missing stuff 
[16:49] <czajkowski> keffie_jayx: most locos have their own accounts 
[16:50] <keffie_jayx> That does not necesarily mean they spread the word 
[16:51] <keffie_jayx> and besides before the LD came about, people promoted their events and had registration separate
[16:51] <czajkowski> keffie_jayx: I know many people follow the @ubuntuie either by following or doing a search 
[16:52] <czajkowski> we post to identi.ca and twitter jut for the sake of identi;ca but few are  on there
[16:52] <keffie_jayx> czajkowski: and @ubuntuie is probably one of the best examples of a locoteam with regards spreading the word
[16:52] <keffie_jayx> czajkowski: but this is not always the case
[16:53] <czajkowski> keffie_jayx: nothing stopping you doing what you want for the LD, as mhall119 said create a LD dev ac 
[16:53] <keffie_jayx> also consider the idea of having all streams reminding the world how cool we are and how big we are
[16:53] <czajkowski> and od it that way 
[16:53] <czajkowski> *do 
[16:54] <keffie_jayx> czajkowski: right, thanks
[16:54] <czajkowski> keffie_jayx: you don't need my permission to do stuff
[16:54] <czajkowski> I'm just saying I don't want to have to monitor or check another account
[16:54] <czajkowski> and the #locoteams tags work well
[16:54] <czajkowski> dont want the LD being spammed either 
[16:55] <czajkowski> if 14 or more people start to add events on one day, the LD will be messy looking 
[16:56] <keffie_jayx> czajkowski: but we I work, I kinda wan't to make sure what I mean to do makes sense
[16:56] <keffie_jayx> codingwise, I need to be on the same pages as most devs here
[16:57] <keffie_jayx> czajkowski: it won't spam if you don't follow the account...
[16:57] <keffie_jayx> czajkowski: it won't replace the #locoteams hashtag. It is a completelly different task
[16:58] <czajkowski> keffie_jayx: so what is the point of creating another ac if you have to follow it ?
[16:58] <keffie_jayx> czajkowski: because it needs to work the way twitter works
[16:58] <czajkowski> I dont know what you're trying to do if not get people to follow yet another @ubuntu ac when teams already use their own 
[16:59] <czajkowski> I mean I dont need to know what a team outside of my country is doing I can look at the LD site and see 
[16:59] <czajkowski> I dont want my twitter ac full of events I wont be attending either 
[17:00] <keffie_jayx> czajkowski: that is a bit closed minded I think... but that's just me
[17:00] <czajkowski> it's not 
[17:00] <czajkowski> it's being realistic 
[17:00] <czajkowski> I'm not gonna follow something that tweets events that I wont be going to 
[17:00] <czajkowski> it makes no sense 
[17:01] <czajkowski> sorry 
[17:02] <keffie_jayx> but me as a member of the community would like to learn about events in other parts of the world. and reshare them, maybe even learn from them and start our own
[17:02] <keffie_jayx> ripple effect a bit...
[17:02] <keffie_jayx> drive traffic to events in LD
[17:02] <czajkowski> I guess we have different views 
[17:02] <czajkowski> sorry 
[17:03] <keffie_jayx> yes
[17:03] <czajkowski> I just dont want my twitter stream full of stuff I cannot attend
[17:03] <czajkowski> I can just click on the LD and on events
[17:03] <czajkowski> and see global events
[17:03] <czajkowski> or I can follow an idividual teams ac 
[17:03] <keffie_jayx> maybe we need someone to check this for us...
[17:03] <keffie_jayx> mhall119: what do you think...
[17:03] <keffie_jayx> czajkowski: or List them... not follow them
[17:03] <keffie_jayx> but that depens on how you use twitter
[17:04] <czajkowski> exactly
[17:12] <mhall119> czajkowski: if you follow the ubuntu-ie twitter account, and someone tweets with @ubuntu-ie, does it show in your stream?
[17:13]  * mhall119 isn't a big twitter user
[17:13] <czajkowski> yes
[17:14] <mhall119> ok, so if we have a team's twitter account name, we can just put it in tweets about that team's events
[17:15] <mhall119> so you don't have to follow @LoCoDirectory
[17:16] <czajkowski> that'd be good 
[17:16] <czajkowski> would mean a person wouldn't get tweets about a b c d e f g h events which have nothing to do with them 
[17:17] <mhall119> unless they wanted to
[17:17] <mhall119> so, best of both
[17:17] <czajkowski> indeed
[17:17] <czajkowski> though I really cannot see any reason why you would tbh 
[17:18] <mhall119> some people get obsessed with Ubuntu
[17:18] <mhall119> end up in ever IRC channel that matched #ubuntu*
[17:18]  * mhall119 looks at nigelb 
[17:19] <czajkowski> yeah... 
[17:19] <czajkowski> no comment so 
[17:19] <mhall119> besides, we can't post anything to twitter without an account, so it's got to be done
[17:19] <nigelb> hey, my ubuntu channels are few.
[17:19] <mhall119> for large values of "few"
[17:19] <nigelb> I have huge numbers of others
[17:19] <keffie_jayx> share buttons on the events page is another way of spreading the word
[17:20] <nigelb> keffie_jayx: I like tha :)
[17:20] <nigelb> *that
[17:20] <keffie_jayx> but we would need design, and decide which share plugins available in django we can use
[17:20] <czajkowski> ideally if you create an event
[17:20] <czajkowski> then click tweet this 
[17:21] <czajkowski> or post to FB or twitter would be a nicer way of getting the word out
[17:21] <czajkowski> or ideally the bug I logged ages ago 
[17:21] <czajkowski> post to mailing list :) 
[17:21] <mhall119> czajkowski: only if I can put LEP #.... in the ML subject
[17:21] <mhall119> ;)
[17:22] <keffie_jayx> you bug report was tag as a wont fix at some point?
[17:22] <keffie_jayx> ok
[17:22] <nigelb> JFDI is our motto. We don't stop anyone going with JFDI for a lot of things. :)
[17:22] <mhall119> you know what I'd love?  If we would stop getting MemoryErrors on cranberry >:(
[17:23] <keffie_jayx> mhall119: what version of django is LD currently using?
[17:23]  * keffie_jayx is kinda living on the edge :S
[17:23] <mhall119> 1.1.2 I believe
[17:24] <nigelb> mhall119: me too.
[17:24] <mhall119> keffie_jayx: there's a requirements.txt that'll setup the correct virtualenv for development and testing
[17:24] <mhall119> or you can use the Makefile
[17:24] <nigelb> mhall119: could you also re-review the % problem branch?
[17:24] <mhall119> nigelb: did you fix it?
[17:25] <nigelb> mhall119: yeah, i resubmitted it.
[17:25] <keffie_jayx> .. ok I'm off to code czajkowski mhall119 nigelb cjohnston Daviey thanks
[17:25] <mhall119> nigelb: the % problem really, really needs test cases
[17:25] <mhall119> np keffie_jayx, thanks for being a part ofit
[17:25] <mhall119> again, I should so
[17:25] <mhall119> say
[17:26] <czajkowski> which bug was tagged as wont fix ?
[17:26] <nigelb> mhall119: hhm,okay.
[17:27] <czajkowski> mhall119: ??
[17:29] <mhall119> czajkowski: I don't know which bug
[17:29]  * mhall119 is cleaning up summit bugs atm
[17:29]  * nigelb hugs mhall119 
[17:29] <czajkowski> mhall119: the one about mail teams when an event is created?
[17:31] <mhall119> czajkowski: I see bug 538177, which was marked as wishlist
[17:31] <mhall119> and bug 806262, which was undecided, but I just marked as wishlist
[17:33] <mhall119> I don't see any bug about sending emails that's "Won't Fix"
[17:38] <czajkowski> aye 
[19:32] <czajkowski> mhall119: if I wanted to create 2 maybe 3 at a push static pages on the LD under the loco council or somewhere clearer how would I do it ?
[19:35] <mhall119> czajkowski: right now, either add it to our bzr tree, or attack the text you want to a bug for us to add it, I haven't added the functionality yet to wiki-like content management
[19:36] <mhall119> s/attack/attach/
[19:36] <mhall119> though  either would work I suppose
[19:36] <czajkowski> nods 
[19:36] <czajkowski> ok when it's ready I'll poke you
[19:36] <czajkowski> want to remove making it easy to add content to it 
[19:36] <czajkowski> I dont want it filling up like the wiki pages
[19:36] <czajkowski> trawling through oodles of pages that are so out of date 
[20:52] <mhall119> czajkowski: the ability to add content will be restricted to LD devs and LC members
[20:52] <mhall119> that was the intent anyway
[20:52] <mhall119> for the first round
[20:52] <czajkowski> nods 
[20:52] <czajkowski> Makes sense tbh 
[20:52] <czajkowski> otherwise it'll get crowded with duff
[20:52] <mhall119> there was a suggesetion to allow teams to add pages under their areas, but that would be a second phase