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| slangasek | tumbleweed: did you have further comments on whether bug #829709 should get a freeze exception? You haven't acked or nacked it, just commented on the sync-from-Debian question, and I'm not sure if that means you're evaluating it | 18:36 |
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| tumbleweed | slangasek: haven't evaluated it | 18:38 |
| slangasek | ok | 18:38 |
| tumbleweed | sync is probably ok from what I read, though | 18:38 |
| tumbleweed | err not sync :) | 18:38 |
| slangasek | right - and the sync route + "successfully transitioned to testing" isn't much use when it's not been uploaded to unstable yet | 18:39 |
| slangasek | since that takes us into beta freeze at least | 18:39 |
| tumbleweed | I how hoping delaying would make him upload to debian, but complaining about poor debian maintainership isn't really ubuntu-releases job. | 18:42 |
| tumbleweed | (delaying a day or two) | 18:42 |
| slangasek | for MOTU purposes, we obviously want to encourage people to make changes in Debian first, but this is a package actively maintained in Ubuntu whose upstream is the maintainer; I wouldn't like us to put up roadblocks to his Ubuntu maintenance | 18:45 |
| tumbleweed | yeah | 18:45 |
| slangasek | (syncing with Debian is still desirable - it just isn't kirkland's responsibility per se) | 18:46 |
| kirkland | tumbleweed: slangasek: I'll blog up a request for a more active Debian Maintainer, as an aside, so that Debian/Ubuntu might have in sync byobus | 18:47 |
| kirkland | (after talking to the current maintainer, of course) | 18:48 |
| tumbleweed | ubuntu upstream of debian doesn't tend to be very standardised (and I haven't seen any packages doing this well, yet) | 18:51 |
| tumbleweed | kirkland: I do see you've picked up a co-maintainer since the last upload, though | 18:54 |
| kirkland | tumbleweed: who's that? | 18:54 |
| tumbleweed | anarcat | 18:54 |
| kirkland | tumbleweed: as for standardizing ubuntu as an upstream of debian, I'd love to lead the charge on that -- I have over a dozen packages (byobu, powernap, dotdee, ssh-import-id, testdrive, bikeshed, errno, run-one, musica, pictor, bogosec) that I simultaneously upload to Ubuntu and PPAs for each supported Ubuntu release; I'd love to just upload to Debian at the same time, as users often ask why this stuff isn't in Debian too | 18:56 |
| tumbleweed | in the past, there was utnubu, it seems to have died, but could be resurrected. One can just use Debain as upstream (as we do for ubuntu-dev-tools) and a couple of other packages have ubuntu-dev-team as their maintainer http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=ubuntu-dev this could be grown into something more useful | 18:59 |
| tumbleweed | kirkland: FFe ACKed | 19:07 |
| ScottK | kirkland: It should be easy enough with some sponsored uploads to get DM upload rights in Debian for your packages so you can just upload there and sync. | 19:12 |
| kirkland | tumbleweed: in those cases, is the same code uploaded to both archives simultaneously? or to Ubuntu, then sync'd to Debian, or to Debian then sync'd to Ubuntu? | 19:12 |
| ScottK | Generally I upload to Debian and then ask for a sync, but if timing is tight for some reason I do dual uploads using syncpackage (that's why it was originally written). | 19:14 |
| kirkland | tumbleweed: thanks | 19:20 |
| cjwatson | for germinate I upload to Debian first and then sync | 19:34 |
| cjwatson | the tools for working in that direction are better than for doing it in the other | 19:35 |
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