InHisNameMorning Randy, were's JonathanD ?10:27
InHisNameDoesn't he go out for early runs in neighborhood ?10:28
rmg51not before he say morning here10:29
rmg51no doubt he'll come up with some lame excuse :-D10:30
InHisNamea lame leg ?10:30
InHisNamecouldn't walk from bed to computer, now that's a REALLY lame leg.10:31
rmg51breakfast time10:34
InHisNamewake up for family, later10:53
JonathanDI slept in.10:57
JonathanDI'm on vacation.10:57
JonathanDGood morning :P10:58
rmg51JonathanD: your the one that is supposed to be the first to say morning in this channel ;-)11:07
JonathanDrmg51: someone else gets that job this week :P11:09
rmg51I guess that's me :P11:13
JonathanDrmg51: and sometimes I do run first. Depends on when I get up :p11:17
rmg51I'm "running" off to work :-/11:28
InHisNameRandy runs ?11:38
SamuraiAlbaGood bacon to all!12:08
SamuraiAlbaNot a radeon 6670 in lappy... 6770.  But the BIOS initializes the Intel HD 3000 first >.<12:09
mikedep333ahh, yes, the nvidia "optimus switchable graphics"12:13
mikedep333on windows, people can't get their graphics driver directly from nvidia.com12:13
SamuraiAlbaThis is AMD/ATI, tho12:14
mikedep333they are once again at the mercy of dell/toshiba/acer/etc for graphics driver updates12:14
mikedep333my bad12:14
SamuraiAlbaIf I install the latest Catalyst drivers myself, when I reboot, Ubuntu says "no screens found"12:14
SamuraiAlbaand I'm at a command prompt12:14
* SamuraiAlba sighs12:14
SamuraiAlbaI CAN install the closed driver via the little card icon when I first install, and that runs fine, but I need the latest for AMD APP SDK :P12:15
mikedep333SamuraiAlba, I noticed this in the windows release notes12:15
mikedep333The following notebooks are not compatible with this release:...12:15
mikedep333Switchable Graphics enabled notebooks using IntelĀ® chipsets.12:16
SamuraiAlbaok.  Reinstalling Ubuntu via WUBI, again12:16
SamuraiAlbaI get so frustrated trying to fix X....12:17
mikedep333those are the linux release notes12:17
mikedep333SamuraiAlba, what catalyst driver are you using?12:17
mikedep333the one bundled with natty?12:17
mikedep333because that's from march or april or whatever12:17
mikedep333SamuraiAlba, also12:17
mikedep333have you tried unloading intel's competing kernel module(s)?12:18
SamuraiAlbabundled, initially12:18
SamuraiAlbaand havent tried that12:18
mikedep333I know it accesses linux's shared ones12:18
mikedep333eg, dri12:18
SamuraiAlbajust gonna stick with bundled12:18
mikedep333google is your friend :)12:18
SamuraiAlbaand then try to get the app SDK symlinks done LOL12:18
SamuraiAlbathen.. Pyrit_OpenCL12:19
mikedep333SamuraiAlba, I would definitely using the august release (catalyst 11.8)12:19
mikedep333*definitely suggest using12:19
SamuraiAlbamy google fu is weak.  Muay Thai on the other hand? :)12:19
SamuraiAlba:) thankies12:20
* SamuraiAlba cracks open his Velanzano Jersey Devil Forte' just to get ready12:21
mikedep333Samurai must learn google fu to defeat their opponents!12:21
SamuraiAlbaI prefer exerting about 11k newtons of force with a knee to the sternum...12:21
* SamuraiAlba giggles12:21
SamuraiAlbaactually, not really, but I can joke :)12:22
* SamuraiAlba has to do more khan academy courses before college...12:22
mikedep333I don't think Samurai are THAT powerful12:22
mikedep333ahh, yes, the khan academy12:22
SamuraiAlbaMuay Thai Chaiya...12:22
mikedep333by the time I heard of the Khan academy, I was in college12:23
mikedep333I graduated in december12:23
SamuraiAlbagratz!  What was your major :)12:23
mikedep333Information Sciences & Technology12:23
SamuraiAlbaI'm going network maagement/cyber security at Cumberland County College12:23
mikedep333yeah, I had multiple internships in network administration12:24
mikedep333I went to La Salle College High School where I had my 1st one12:24
SamuraiAlbaInternsip, indentured servitude... same thing LOL12:24
mikedep333SamuraiAlba, not when it's FUN!12:24
mikedep333just as I enjoy fixing people's computers12:24
mikedep333I find it fun.12:25
SamuraiAlbaFun is cursing the devil besotted end user and changing their pasword to die-die-die...12:25
mikedep333or as a network admin12:25
SamuraiAlbaI need more space!12:25
mikedep333setting it so they have to change their password EVERY SINGLE DAY12:25
SamuraiAlba*deltes users files*12:25
SamuraiAlbahands shaking12:25
SamuraiAlbawaiting for sugar to get back up12:25
mikedep333ist.psu.edu redid their website12:26
mikedep333http://www.psu.edu/ did not12:26
mikedep333although they may have made the characters larger or something12:26
mikedep333ie, it is now optimized for 1024px wide screens rather than 800px wide screens12:26
mikedep333well I gotta leave the #touchpad #touchdroid & #webos-internals channels12:29
mikedep333they're just madness12:29
mikedep333#touchdroid was supposed to be a developers only channel for porting android to the touchpad12:30
mikedep333instead everyone chats about everything in there now12:30
SamuraiAlbaI was thinking of getting an HP for $149 (32gb)12:33
SamuraiAlbadecide the 1k laptop is better LOL12:33
mikedep333SamuraiAlba, why not get a $850 laptop & a $150 touchpad?12:43
mikedep333If all my orders go through, I will have either a $150 + tax touchpad or a $100 + tax & shipping touchpad to sell12:44
mikedep333for what I paid12:44
SamuraiAlbaCore i7 2.0Ghz (up to 2.93), 6 GB ram, Intel HD 3000 & Radeon 6770 graphics, 750 gb HD, 2 USB 3, 2 USB 2, HDMI, gig E, VGA, beats audio, 15.?" screen, Blu ray, fingerprint scanner, 974.99 with a 50 rebate on top12:45
SamuraiAlbaDiscover Black Card... *sigh*  blew over 3500 on it in a week12:46
SamuraiAlbathey botched my financial aid, and I had to pay up front and get a check later.12:46
mikedep333I don't advise people spend money they don't have on luxuries.12:46
mikedep333I pay off my CC in full every month.12:46
SamuraiAlbawell, wasnt gonna wait till Jan for college.  Wanna get it done12:47
mikedep333anyway, I gotta get to work12:48
SamuraiAlbaI like my class list, except for western civ and sociology being required... :(12:49
SamuraiAlbahave fun :)12:49
SamuraiAlbaGood bacon to all!15:22
InHisNameNo bacon in a potato, sammy16:13
InHisNameWhen something evil yawns - it REALLY is boring16:28
waltmanNO *wonder* this channel was so quiet!16:41
waltmanhttp://blog.ubuntu-women.org/2011/08/new-2011-2012-ubuntu-women-leadership-team-announced/ # not sure if I should be offering pleia2 my contratulations or sympathy :)16:42
pleia2thanks, it's all good16:42
pleia2I was joking the other day - I was the only incumbent running so I am either power hungry or like a really horrible job (same goes for ubuntu california actually)16:43
pleia2because, you know, ubuntu women leadership is a stepping stone for president of the world!16:43
waltmanor princess of Alderan :)16:46
jedijfcongrats pleia2, i guess tiaras are out ofthe question?16:47
pleia2I'll take one16:48
waltmanpink, of course.16:48
jedijfsweet, you should definitely get one this upcoming halloween season; that's when I got my crown last year16:48
pleia2actually, one of the other UW leaders got me this after the UDS in Orlando I couldn't attend last year: https://picasaweb.google.com/114018915395046539523/7131103#562902537164089288216:49
pleia2(not the android, the hat, the android is just being silly)16:49
pleia2((maybe I was being silly))16:49
jedijfthis year i am adding a robe, maybe kadafi's will be on ebay16:53
pleia2make sure to take note of the return address16:57
waltmanI had brunch with a friend yesterday, and he said that one reason he doesn't trust google/g+ is that every time he gets a facebook notification, it ends up in his gmail spam folder.17:09
MutantTurkeywaltman: I mean I don't trust G+ but that's not why...17:09
MutantTurkeythats probably because he marked it as spam accidentally.17:10
MutantTurkeyand who the heck ever reads the facebook notification emails anyways?17:10
waltmanAnyone else have that happen? It seems unlikely that Google would be keep doing it intentionally.17:10
waltmanumm, I do.17:10
MutantTurkeywaltman: don't you just check facebook?17:10
waltmanI find it easier to check the folder in mutt than go to facebook.17:10
waltmanI mean, I check both, of course, depending on what I happen to be doing.17:11
MutantTurkeywhat seems to be te likely situtation is that he marked it as spam and then enver un marked it.17:11
MutantTurkeyof course. I have never used the emails personally.17:11
waltmanHe said he's had like 50 messages from facebook end up marked as spam.17:11
MutantTurkeybecause google has a smart filter. if you tag one, then they all get tagged.17:11
MutantTurkeyall your 'friend' needs to do is "mark as not spam"17:12
MutantTurkeyeither way. don't trust google.17:12
MutantTurkeyThat being said, I use every single one of their services.17:13
jedijfyesterday i said i don't like tablet format, today i buy one on woot . i know the feeling17:14
waltmanThat's what I told him to do. It seems unlikely that after marking 50 as "not spam", it would keep doing it. So I'm guessing he's doing something wrong.17:14
MutantTurkeymost likely17:14
jedijfwaltman: un friend him; not worthy17:14
MutantTurkeyjedijf: yeah. I am convinced against tablets and touch screens at home. on the go they are great.17:14
jedijfunless that was his ice cream car17:14
MutantTurkeyI just don't like that everyone is pushing it.17:14
MutantTurkeyI am itching to try out ubuntu though, but I cant seem to make a usb drive of it17:15
jedijfMutantTurkey: waht?!17:15
jedijfMutantTurkey: livecd should still have usb creator built in; even an arch user can do it17:15
MutantTurkeyI don't have a cd drive...17:16
jedijfusb to ide/sata cable17:16
jedijfcome to sfd and i'll give you one17:16
MutantTurkeyI am getting increasingly pissy at ubuntu. they are practically not even in the FOSS ecosystem except to rape it for its goods.17:17
jedijfplus, i think pacs owes you a usb drive17:17
MutantTurkeyex. they make unity. then they don't publish it for everyone on other distros.17:17
jedijfMutantTurkey: be careful what you ask for17:17
MutantTurkeyyou just might get it17:17
jedijflet them refine it, before they give it to others; getting enough grief from their own people17:17
MutantTurkeyI know17:18
MutantTurkeyI don't even want to talk about gnome3... what a disaster.17:18
jedijffor me, it's a push, unity and gnome3; i have gnome3 on my arch box17:18
MutantTurkeyeach new release of every DE is reduced and reduced option.17:18
MutantTurkeyjedijf: I can't seem to get gnome3 to do what I want.17:18
MutantTurkeythere are literally no options.17:18
jedijfi don't really /use/ it, but it's there; mostly ssh into the box anyway17:19
MutantTurkeyI am working on Xfce mostly these days, just because it's as gnome2.6 asI can get it.17:19
MutantTurkeyalso they are making ubuntu steadily harder for the power user.17:19
jedijfthat's the best thing about these changes; people are finally trying/adopting alternate wm/de's17:19
MutantTurkeyI know.17:20
MutantTurkeyhopefully my one project takes off17:20
pleia2facebook emails don't go to my gmail spam box, maybe said friend accidentally marked one as spam once and it goes along with it now?17:20
MutantTurkeyI have been working for some time on TDE17:20
MutantTurkeyIt's a awesome desktop.17:20
MutantTurkeywith our next release we are hoping to jump our user count17:20
pleia2g+ sends too much email by default though, it's pretty obnoxious17:21
MutantTurkeypleia2: yes, I had to disable all my G+ emails. and buzz as well (though buzz basically failed)17:21
pleia2the app is noisy too "alert every time someone replies to a huddle" .. uh no, a huddle is like a chat room17:21
waltmanI'm just going to stick with windowmaker until this whole gnome/unity mess shakes itself out :)17:29
MutantTurkeywaltman: windowmaker indeed.17:52
MutantTurkeyactually jwm I used and loved for a long time. People underestimate it.17:53
MutantTurkeyit provides a robust configuration method, and a nice panel17:53
MutantTurkeyisn't it great when your boss tells you that there is a meeting at 2PM sharp, then doesn't show up. and apparently told us to meet in the wrong room where a much more serious meeting was taking place.18:04
waltmanMaybe he showed up at the *right* room.18:09
waltman...and is wondering where all you slackers are.18:09
MutantTurkeywaltman:there is only one conference room.18:13
MutantTurkeyand it was reserved by some big head doodz18:13
waltmanHow could he tell you the wrong room if there's only *one* room?18:17
MutantTurkeywaltman: because he wasnt there!18:18
MutantTurkeyand his office was empty18:18
waltmanDid you check the men's room? :)18:18
MutantTurkeyOH BOY.18:23
MutantTurkeyacually just got a call18:23
MutantTurkeyoff I go!18:23

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