[09:55] <rmg51> Morning
[10:27] <InHisName> Morning Randy, were's JonathanD ?
[10:27] <rmg51> sleeping?
[10:28] <InHisName> Doesn't he go out for early runs in neighborhood ?
[10:29] <rmg51> not before he say morning here
[10:30] <rmg51> no doubt he'll come up with some lame excuse :-D
[10:30] <InHisName> a lame leg ?
[10:31] <InHisName> couldn't walk from bed to computer, now that's a REALLY lame leg.
[10:34] <rmg51> breakfast time
[10:53] <InHisName> wake up for family, later
[10:57] <JonathanD> I slept in.
[10:57] <JonathanD> I'm on vacation.
[10:58] <JonathanD> Good morning :P
[11:07] <rmg51> JonathanD: your the one that is supposed to be the first to say morning in this channel ;-)
[11:09] <JonathanD> rmg51: someone else gets that job this week :P
[11:13] <rmg51> I guess that's me :P
[11:17] <JonathanD> rmg51: and sometimes I do run first. Depends on when I get up :p
[11:28] <rmg51> I'm "running" off to work :-/
[11:38] <InHisName> Randy runs ?
[12:04] <teddy-dbear> morning
[12:08] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all!
[12:09] <SamuraiAlba> Not a radeon 6670 in lappy... 6770.  But the BIOS initializes the Intel HD 3000 first >.<
[12:13] <mikedep333> ahh, yes, the nvidia "optimus switchable graphics"
[12:13] <mikedep333> on windows, people can't get their graphics driver directly from nvidia.com
[12:14] <SamuraiAlba> This is AMD/ATI, tho
[12:14] <mikedep333> they are once again at the mercy of dell/toshiba/acer/etc for graphics driver updates
[12:14] <mikedep333> oh
[12:14] <mikedep333> my bad
[12:14] <SamuraiAlba> If I install the latest Catalyst drivers myself, when I reboot, Ubuntu says "no screens found"
[12:14] <SamuraiAlba> and I'm at a command prompt
[12:14]  * SamuraiAlba sighs
[12:15] <SamuraiAlba> I CAN install the closed driver via the little card icon when I first install, and that runs fine, but I need the latest for AMD APP SDK :P
[12:15] <mikedep333> SamuraiAlba, I noticed this in the windows release notes
[12:15] <mikedep333> http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst118ReleaseNotes.aspx
[12:15] <mikedep333> The following notebooks are not compatible with this release:...
[12:16] <mikedep333> Switchable Graphics enabled notebooks using Intel® chipsets.
[12:16] <SamuraiAlba> DOH!
[12:16] <SamuraiAlba> ok.  Reinstalling Ubuntu via WUBI, again
[12:17] <mikedep333> http://www2.ati.com/relnotes/Catalyst_11.8_Linux_Installer.pdf
[12:17] <SamuraiAlba> I get so frustrated trying to fix X....
[12:17] <mikedep333> those are the linux release notes
[12:17] <mikedep333> SamuraiAlba, what catalyst driver are you using?
[12:17] <mikedep333> the one bundled with natty?
[12:17] <mikedep333> because that's from march or april or whatever
[12:17] <mikedep333> SamuraiAlba, also
[12:18] <mikedep333> have you tried unloading intel's competing kernel module(s)?
[12:18] <SamuraiAlba> bundled, initially
[12:18] <SamuraiAlba> and havent tried that
[12:18] <mikedep333> I know it accesses linux's shared ones
[12:18] <mikedep333> eg, dri
[12:18] <mikedep333> also
[12:18] <SamuraiAlba> just gonna stick with bundled
[12:18] <mikedep333> google is your friend :)
[12:18] <SamuraiAlba> and then try to get the app SDK symlinks done LOL
[12:19] <SamuraiAlba> then.. Pyrit_OpenCL
[12:19] <mikedep333> SamuraiAlba, I would definitely using the august release (catalyst 11.8)
[12:19] <mikedep333> *definitely suggest using
[12:19] <SamuraiAlba> my google fu is weak.  Muay Thai on the other hand? :)
[12:19] <mikedep333> http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.com/
[12:20] <mikedep333> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTI3MQ
[12:20] <mikedep333> http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1&nord=1#sclient=psy&hl=en&nord=1&site=webhp&source=hp&q=amd%20intel%20switchable%20graphics%20linux&pbx=1&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&fp=6e03ab0a8e706d4b&ion=1&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.&fp=6e03ab0a8e706d4b&biw=1264&bih=581&ion=1
[12:20] <SamuraiAlba> :) thankies
[12:21] <mikedep333> np
[12:21]  * SamuraiAlba cracks open his Velanzano Jersey Devil Forte' just to get ready
[12:21] <mikedep333> Samurai must learn google fu to defeat their opponents!
[12:21] <SamuraiAlba> I prefer exerting about 11k newtons of force with a knee to the sternum...
[12:21]  * SamuraiAlba giggles
[12:21] <mikedep333> lol
[12:22] <SamuraiAlba> actually, not really, but I can joke :)
[12:22]  * SamuraiAlba has to do more khan academy courses before college...
[12:22] <mikedep333> I don't think Samurai are THAT powerful
[12:22] <mikedep333> ahh, yes, the khan academy
[12:22] <SamuraiAlba> Muay Thai Chaiya...
[12:22] <SamuraiAlba> ;)
[12:23] <mikedep333> by the time I heard of the Khan academy, I was in college
[12:23] <mikedep333> I graduated in december
[12:23] <SamuraiAlba> gratz!  What was your major :)
[12:23] <SamuraiAlba> ?
[12:23] <mikedep333> Information Sciences & Technology
[12:23] <SamuraiAlba> I'm going network maagement/cyber security at Cumberland County College
[12:23] <mikedep333> http://ist.psu.edu/
[12:24] <SamuraiAlba> *management
[12:24] <mikedep333> yeah, I had multiple internships in network administration
[12:24] <mikedep333> I went to La Salle College High School where I had my 1st one
[12:24] <SamuraiAlba> Internsip, indentured servitude... same thing LOL
[12:24] <SamuraiAlba> *Internship
[12:24] <mikedep333> SamuraiAlba, not when it's FUN!
[12:24] <mikedep333> just as I enjoy fixing people's computers
[12:25] <mikedep333> I find it fun.
[12:25] <SamuraiAlba> Fun is cursing the devil besotted end user and changing their pasword to die-die-die...
[12:25] <mikedep333> lol
[12:25] <mikedep333> or as a network admin
[12:25] <SamuraiAlba> I need more space!
[12:25] <mikedep333> setting it so they have to change their password EVERY SINGLE DAY
[12:25] <SamuraiAlba> *deltes users files*
[12:25] <SamuraiAlba> *Deletes
[12:25] <SamuraiAlba> hands shaking
[12:25] <SamuraiAlba> waiting for sugar to get back up
[12:25] <mikedep333> woah
[12:26] <mikedep333> ist.psu.edu redid their website
[12:26] <mikedep333> http://www.psu.edu/ did not
[12:26] <mikedep333> although they may have made the characters larger or something
[12:26] <mikedep333> ie, it is now optimized for 1024px wide screens rather than 800px wide screens
[12:29] <mikedep333> well I gotta leave the #touchpad #touchdroid & #webos-internals channels
[12:29] <mikedep333> they're just madness
[12:30] <mikedep333> #touchdroid was supposed to be a developers only channel for porting android to the touchpad
[12:30] <mikedep333> instead everyone chats about everything in there now
[12:32] <SamuraiAlba> aye
[12:33] <SamuraiAlba> I was thinking of getting an HP for $149 (32gb)
[12:33] <SamuraiAlba> decide the 1k laptop is better LOL
[12:33] <SamuraiAlba> *decided
[12:43] <mikedep333> SamuraiAlba, why not get a $850 laptop & a $150 touchpad?
[12:44] <mikedep333> If all my orders go through, I will have either a $150 + tax touchpad or a $100 + tax & shipping touchpad to sell
[12:44] <mikedep333> for what I paid
[12:45] <SamuraiAlba> Core i7 2.0Ghz (up to 2.93), 6 GB ram, Intel HD 3000 & Radeon 6770 graphics, 750 gb HD, 2 USB 3, 2 USB 2, HDMI, gig E, VGA, beats audio, 15.?" screen, Blu ray, fingerprint scanner, 974.99 with a 50 rebate on top
[12:45] <SamuraiAlba> :)
[12:46] <SamuraiAlba> Discover Black Card... *sigh*  blew over 3500 on it in a week
[12:46] <mikedep333> nice
[12:46] <mikedep333> lol
[12:46] <SamuraiAlba> they botched my financial aid, and I had to pay up front and get a check later.
[12:46] <mikedep333> I don't advise people spend money they don't have on luxuries.
[12:46] <mikedep333> I pay off my CC in full every month.
[12:47] <SamuraiAlba> well, wasnt gonna wait till Jan for college.  Wanna get it done
[12:48] <mikedep333> ok
[12:48] <mikedep333> anyway, I gotta get to work
[12:48] <mikedep333> ttyl
[12:49] <SamuraiAlba> I like my class list, except for western civ and sociology being required... :(
[12:49] <SamuraiAlba> have fun :)
[12:49] <mikedep333> thx
[12:49] <SamuraiAlba> yw
[15:22] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all!
[16:13] <InHisName> No bacon in a potato, sammy
[16:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> *yawns*
[16:28] <InHisName> When something evil yawns - it REALLY is boring
[16:41] <waltman> NO *wonder* this channel was so quiet!
[16:42] <waltman> http://blog.ubuntu-women.org/2011/08/new-2011-2012-ubuntu-women-leadership-team-announced/ # not sure if I should be offering pleia2 my contratulations or sympathy :)
[16:42] <pleia2> hehe
[16:42] <pleia2> thanks, it's all good
[16:43] <waltman> Yay!
[16:43] <pleia2> I was joking the other day - I was the only incumbent running so I am either power hungry or like a really horrible job (same goes for ubuntu california actually)
[16:43] <pleia2> because, you know, ubuntu women leadership is a stepping stone for president of the world!
[16:46] <waltman> or princess of Alderan :)
[16:47] <jedijf> congrats pleia2, i guess tiaras are out ofthe question?
[16:48] <pleia2> I'll take one
[16:48] <waltman> pink, of course.
[16:48] <jedijf> sweet, you should definitely get one this upcoming halloween season; that's when I got my crown last year
[16:49] <pleia2> actually, one of the other UW leaders got me this after the UDS in Orlando I couldn't attend last year: https://picasaweb.google.com/114018915395046539523/7131103#5629025371640892882
[16:49] <pleia2> (not the android, the hat, the android is just being silly)
[16:49] <pleia2> ((maybe I was being silly))
[16:53] <jedijf> this year i am adding a robe, maybe kadafi's will be on ebay
[16:57] <pleia2> make sure to take note of the return address
[17:07] <MutantTurkey> o/
[17:09] <waltman> I had brunch with a friend yesterday, and he said that one reason he doesn't trust google/g+ is that every time he gets a facebook notification, it ends up in his gmail spam folder.
[17:09] <MutantTurkey> waltman: I mean I don't trust G+ but that's not why...
[17:10] <MutantTurkey> thats probably because he marked it as spam accidentally.
[17:10] <MutantTurkey> and who the heck ever reads the facebook notification emails anyways?
[17:10] <waltman> Anyone else have that happen? It seems unlikely that Google would be keep doing it intentionally.
[17:10] <waltman> umm, I do.
[17:10] <MutantTurkey> really?
[17:10] <MutantTurkey> waltman: don't you just check facebook?
[17:10] <waltman> I find it easier to check the folder in mutt than go to facebook.
[17:11] <waltman> I mean, I check both, of course, depending on what I happen to be doing.
[17:11] <MutantTurkey> what seems to be te likely situtation is that he marked it as spam and then enver un marked it.
[17:11] <MutantTurkey> of course. I have never used the emails personally.
[17:11] <waltman> He said he's had like 50 messages from facebook end up marked as spam.
[17:11] <MutantTurkey> because google has a smart filter. if you tag one, then they all get tagged.
[17:12] <MutantTurkey> all your 'friend' needs to do is "mark as not spam"
[17:12] <MutantTurkey> either way. don't trust google.
[17:13] <MutantTurkey> That being said, I use every single one of their services.
[17:13] <jedijf> lol
[17:14] <jedijf> yesterday i said i don't like tablet format, today i buy one on woot . i know the feeling
[17:14] <waltman> That's what I told him to do. It seems unlikely that after marking 50 as "not spam", it would keep doing it. So I'm guessing he's doing something wrong.
[17:14] <MutantTurkey> most likely
[17:14] <jedijf> waltman: un friend him; not worthy
[17:14] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: yeah. I am convinced against tablets and touch screens at home. on the go they are great.
[17:14] <jedijf> unless that was his ice cream car
[17:14] <MutantTurkey> I just don't like that everyone is pushing it.
[17:15] <MutantTurkey> I am itching to try out ubuntu though, but I cant seem to make a usb drive of it
[17:15] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: waht?!
[17:15] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: livecd should still have usb creator built in; even an arch user can do it
[17:16] <MutantTurkey> I don't have a cd drive...
[17:16] <MutantTurkey> :|
[17:16] <jedijf> fail
[17:16] <jedijf> usb to ide/sata cable
[17:16] <MutantTurkey> blech
[17:16] <jedijf> come to sfd and i'll give you one
[17:16] <MutantTurkey> sure
[17:17] <MutantTurkey> I am getting increasingly pissy at ubuntu. they are practically not even in the FOSS ecosystem except to rape it for its goods.
[17:17] <jedijf> plus, i think pacs owes you a usb drive
[17:17] <MutantTurkey> ex. they make unity. then they don't publish it for everyone on other distros.
[17:17] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: be careful what you ask for
[17:17] <MutantTurkey> you just might get it
[17:17] <jedijf> let them refine it, before they give it to others; getting enough grief from their own people
[17:18] <MutantTurkey> I know
[17:18] <MutantTurkey> I don't even want to talk about gnome3... what a disaster.
[17:18] <jedijf> for me, it's a push, unity and gnome3; i have gnome3 on my arch box
[17:18] <MutantTurkey> each new release of every DE is reduced and reduced option.
[17:18] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: I can't seem to get gnome3 to do what I want.
[17:18] <MutantTurkey> there are literally no options.
[17:19] <jedijf> i don't really /use/ it, but it's there; mostly ssh into the box anyway
[17:19] <MutantTurkey> I am working on Xfce mostly these days, just because it's as gnome2.6 asI can get it.
[17:19] <MutantTurkey> ssh++
[17:19] <MutantTurkey> also they are making ubuntu steadily harder for the power user.
[17:19] <jedijf> that's the best thing about these changes; people are finally trying/adopting alternate wm/de's
[17:20] <MutantTurkey> I know.
[17:20] <MutantTurkey> hopefully my one project takes off
[17:20] <pleia2> facebook emails don't go to my gmail spam box, maybe said friend accidentally marked one as spam once and it goes along with it now?
[17:20] <MutantTurkey> I have been working for some time on TDE
[17:20] <MutantTurkey> It's a awesome desktop.
[17:20] <MutantTurkey> with our next release we are hoping to jump our user count
[17:21] <pleia2> g+ sends too much email by default though, it's pretty obnoxious
[17:21] <MutantTurkey> pleia2: yes, I had to disable all my G+ emails. and buzz as well (though buzz basically failed)
[17:21] <pleia2> the app is noisy too "alert every time someone replies to a huddle" .. uh no, a huddle is like a chat room
[17:29] <waltman> I'm just going to stick with windowmaker until this whole gnome/unity mess shakes itself out :)
[17:52] <MutantTurkey> waltman: windowmaker indeed.
[17:53] <MutantTurkey> actually jwm I used and loved for a long time. People underestimate it.
[17:53] <MutantTurkey> it provides a robust configuration method, and a nice panel
[18:04] <MutantTurkey> isn't it great when your boss tells you that there is a meeting at 2PM sharp, then doesn't show up. and apparently told us to meet in the wrong room where a much more serious meeting was taking place.
[18:04] <TheEvilPhoenix> lol
[18:09] <waltman> Maybe he showed up at the *right* room.
[18:09] <waltman> ...and is wondering where all you slackers are.
[18:13] <MutantTurkey> waltman:there is only one conference room.
[18:13] <MutantTurkey> and it was reserved by some big head doodz
[18:17] <waltman> How could he tell you the wrong room if there's only *one* room?
[18:18] <MutantTurkey> waltman: because he wasnt there!
[18:18] <MutantTurkey> and his office was empty
[18:18] <waltman> Did you check the men's room? :)
[18:23] <MutantTurkey> OH BOY.
[18:23] <MutantTurkey> acually just got a call
[18:23] <MutantTurkey> off I go!