| ScottL | *sigh* it's deja-vu all over again | 00:33 |
|---|---|---|
| ScottL | W: Failed to fetch file:/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ftp-universe/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Hash Sum mismatch | 00:33 |
| ScottL | no ISO's this weekend :( | 00:33 |
| falktx_ | ScottL: what's that error all about? | 00:34 |
| ScottL | astraljava, i'm going to make a few changes myself to the seeds, hopefully tonight, rather than suffer you with it | 00:34 |
| ScottL | falktx_, apparently its the syncing of packages | 00:34 |
| ScottL | my (bad) understanding that packages are being updated but not synced fast enough and we end up with hash sum mismatches | 00:35 |
| ScottL | cjwatson said that when they get new hardware this shouldn't be a probelm | 00:35 |
| falktx_ | damn | 00:36 |
| ScottL | i am positing that the changes are happening faster than the current hardware can sync given the comments i've heard (including one of yours) | 00:36 |
| falktx_ | I have no idea whatsoever about how these things work :( | 00:37 |
| ScottL | perhaps during a less busy cycle this would not be as bad as they appear | 00:37 |
| falktx_ | ScottL: I think the feature freeze is in now, right? | 00:37 |
| ScottL | !calender | 00:51 |
| ScottL | !calendar | 00:51 |
| ubottu | calendar is at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | 00:51 |
| holstein | lol | 00:51 |
| ScottL | forget that one | 00:52 |
| ScottL | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | 00:52 |
| holstein | ubottu is a dork | 00:52 |
| ubottu | holstein: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 00:52 |
| holstein | oh... dont you worry ;) | 00:53 |
| ScottL | LOL | 00:53 |
| ScottL | i wish i remembered how to set it to recognize calendar correctly | 00:53 |
| falktx_ | haha | 02:19 |
| falktx_ | ScottL: i think the ubuntu feature freeze is now in place, so there should not be too many package updates now | 02:21 |
| falktx_ | it's the right time for US fixing I guess | 02:21 |
| falktx_ | ScottL: btw, what to do with all the artwork in the wiki? | 02:21 |
| ScottL | which artwork do you mean? | 02:24 |
| ScottL | falktx_, ^^^ | 02:24 |
| falktx_ | ScottL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/ | 02:25 |
| falktx_ | there is some pretty cool stuff in there | 02:25 |
| ScottL | to be honest and direct, probably nothing right now | 02:25 |
| ScottL | cory isn't active and no one else really knows about packaging artwork at this point | 02:26 |
| ScottL | unless you want to help | 02:26 |
| falktx_ | I wish I could put some use to that artwork... | 02:26 |
| ScottL | you can | 02:26 |
| ScottL | also considering that we can't get an image to test i'm not sure where we will stand | 02:26 |
| falktx_ | ScottL: can we just add new wallpapers? | 02:26 |
| ScottL | falktx_, i would say that we could | 02:26 |
| ScottL | i would prefer something not so busy as we have had since hardy | 02:27 |
| ScottL | falktx_, my favorite (but it's not *quite* exactly what i want) is the first on one the oneiric link | 02:28 |
| falktx_ | has US changed his logo to the new font? | 02:28 |
| ScottL | yes | 02:28 |
| ScottL | look at the bottom of the oneiric link | 02:28 |
| falktx_ | ScottL: this one - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/OfficialOneiric?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntustudio_v3_logo.svg | 02:28 |
| falktx_ | ? | 02:29 |
| falktx_ | I guess yes | 02:32 |
| falktx_ | ScottL: have you considered changing the theme? | 02:33 |
| falktx_ | afaik, gtk3 apps will be a problem | 02:33 |
| * falktx_ hopes qtcurve gets gtk3 support soon | 02:33 | |
| ScottL | falktx_, yes, i believe that is the one we are going to use | 02:38 |
| * ScottL is sorry to be in and out of the conversation, but is at home by himself with the kids | 02:38 | |
| * ScottL also likes to talk about himself in the third person ;) | 02:39 | |
| ScottL | falktx_, i would like to change the theme...very badly, but again, i don't know how at this time and don't have time to learn how | 02:39 |
| falktx | sorry my network stopped | 02:41 |
| falktx | stopped after 'ScottL: have you considered changing the theme?' | 02:41 |
| ScottL | <ScottL> falktx_, yes, i believe that is the one we are going to use | 02:42 |
| ScottL | * ScottL is sorry to be in and out of the conversation, but is at home by himself with the kids | 02:42 |
| ScottL | * ScottL also likes to talk about himself in the third person ;) | 02:42 |
| ScottL | <ScottL> falktx_, i would like to change the theme...very badly, but again, i don't know how at this time and don't have time to learn how | 02:42 |
| ScottL | * falktx_ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | 02:42 |
| ScottL | that's what i said :) | 02:42 |
| falktx | ScottL: I guess the focus now is to get a working image, all the rest comes afterwards | 02:45 |
| falktx | my work for the PPAs will really help US this time, I have some cool plans... | 02:46 |
| falktx | I'm just sad I don't know how the US processing really works | 02:49 |
| ScottL | falktx, i have been told that it wasn't quite the lethargic in the past | 03:14 |
| ScottL | apparently it was very robust during the beginning | 03:14 |
| scott-work | *sigh* no image built today :( | 11:52 |
| holstein | we dont need one ;) | 13:39 |
| holstein | "we've already got one... its very nice" | 13:40 |
| falktx | holstein: who said that» | 14:04 |
| falktx | ? | 14:04 |
| holstein | falktx: i was trying something from monty python | 14:07 |
| holstein | "we seek the grail" | 14:07 |
| holstein | "we've already got one... its very nice!" | 14:07 |
| falktx | ok | 14:07 |
| holstein | falktx: we do need an image :/ | 14:07 |
| holstein | well, at some point we doo | 14:08 |
| scott-work | hahah, just saw this :) | 15:00 |
| astraljava | Hey folks, sorry I've been AFK (well not really, but from hobbies.) Gimme another hour, and I'll start hacking. | 15:22 |
| astraljava | Almost two hours, but what the heck. Sat down now. | 17:10 |
| astraljava | No disks for two days, damn. | 17:12 |
| astraljava | Xubuntu, on the other hand, does have an alternate for today. | 17:13 |
| astraljava | But I didn't see a healthy check for neither yesterday nor today. Damn. | 17:16 |
| scott-work | i'm feeling frustrated | 18:10 |
| ailo | scott-work, You need to de-frust | 18:23 |
| astraljava | So, it's not a direct dependency that's pulling gnome-session in, that apparently pulls unity in. | 18:26 |
| scott-work | ailo: lol | 18:29 |
| scott-work | like, i should be 'grunted' rather that disgrunted? ;) | 18:29 |
| astraljava | Damn, network-manager-gnome pulls in libgtk-3-0 | 18:29 |
| falktx | astraljava: I think gtk3 is ok | 18:37 |
| * falktx updates to check out this issue | 18:37 | |
| falktx | btw, I'm running oneiric now, so I can dig this too | 18:37 |
| scott-work | charlie-tca: what does xubuntu use for network manager? | 18:38 |
| scott-work | falktx: that would be very helpful :) | 18:38 |
| scott-work | astraljava: if netowrk-manager causes problems maybe we use whatever charlie-tca is using for xubuntu | 18:38 |
| charlie-tca | network-manager | 18:39 |
| charlie-tca | It mostly works. What about wicd? | 18:39 |
| falktx | charlie-tca: xfce uses gnome network-manager? | 18:40 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 18:41 |
| charlie-tca | I show 'network-manager' and 'network-manager-gnome' | 18:41 |
| falktx | I guess wicd would be an option here | 18:41 |
| charlie-tca | I think Xfce recommends them too | 18:42 |
| * astraljava grumbles | 18:44 | |
| astraljava | IT's all alacarte's fault. | 18:45 |
| falktx | scott-work: unity is probably pushed by a recommends, not a real dependency | 18:45 |
| astraljava | It brings in gnome-panel, which brings in gnome-session, which brings in unity. | 18:45 |
| falktx | ah, astraljava, right | 18:45 |
| * astraljava grumbles again | 18:45 | |
| scott-work | i'm not even sure what alacarte is used for | 18:46 |
| scott-work | ah, menu editing | 18:46 |
| scott-work | maybe we pull alacarte for now and see if we can work a solution | 18:46 |
| astraljava | Yeah I'm definitely taking it off. | 18:46 |
| falktx | hm, nm-gnome does not push gnome-panel | 18:47 |
| astraljava | But I'm gonna read up on germinate output for other unneeded stuff, the .iso is HUUUUUUUGE | 18:47 |
| falktx | scott-work: alacarte doesn't seem to be the problem either | 18:47 |
| * falktx installs US metas | 18:47 | |
| astraljava | Yeah, I suppose network manager is alright, xubuntu seems to have it too. | 18:47 |
| astraljava | falktx: I just checked from germinate output. | 18:48 |
| charlie-tca | You have to pull alacarte with a --no-recommends to not get most of gnome with it | 18:48 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Is that what you're doing? | 18:48 |
| charlie-tca | We don't install alacarte by default | 18:48 |
| astraljava | Okay, then I seem to have left it by accident. | 18:48 |
| astraljava | germinate seems to take recommends to the images nowadays. | 18:49 |
| falktx | astraljava: it is the default since karmic | 18:49 |
| charlie-tca | We just tell the users: | 18:49 |
| charlie-tca | For Xfce 4.8, 'sudo apt-get install alacarte --no-install-recommends' in a terminal will let you use an editor to change the menus. | 18:49 |
| falktx | charlie-tca: so the problem is "gnome-menus" pushed by alacarte | 18:50 |
| * falktx is still installing the metas | 18:50 | |
| charlie-tca | right | 18:50 |
| charlie-tca | and debian won't change that, either | 18:50 |
| astraljava | Judging from: gnome-panel | gnome-panel | alacarte (Recommends) | 18:50 |
| charlie-tca | It is considered a "gnome-menu" editor | 18:50 |
| scott-work | which since we are ubuntu xfce we don't really need ;) | 18:50 |
| falktx | but how xfce does this then? | 18:51 |
| astraljava | Ex-friggin'-actly. | 18:51 |
| falktx | it has alacarte in there | 18:51 |
| charlie-tca | They are just a desktop environment, so they don't have to worry about throwing things together to fit the users needs so much. | 18:51 |
| falktx | oh, I see lighdm being pushed, is that what US will use? | 18:51 |
| astraljava | falktx: Yep. | 18:52 |
| astraljava | We just don't have a theme for that, yet. *grin* | 18:52 |
| falktx | charlie-tca: yes, but using alacarte should push unity, or am I missing something? | 18:52 |
| falktx | hm, I can hack a theme | 18:52 |
| charlie-tca | no, it will push gnome3 instead, I think | 18:52 |
| astraljava | falktx: That's what I just tried to explain. | 18:52 |
| falktx | astraljava: but are you sure it's alacarte? | 18:52 |
| astraljava | alacarte -> gnome-panel -> gnome-session -> unity | 18:52 |
| falktx | other packages could be pushing gnome3 too | 18:52 |
| falktx | I see a lot of stuff that we don't need in the metas... :( | 18:53 |
| astraljava | Yeah, that's why I'm combing the germinate logs to make sure it doesn't happen from any other direction. | 18:53 |
| falktx | astraljava: gnome-bluetooth should be removed | 18:54 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Agree? | 18:54 |
| falktx | hm, he's probably busy | 18:57 |
| scott-work | falktx: astraljava : agreed | 18:57 |
| scott-work | i had that on a far range culling of the seeds | 18:58 |
| astraljava | Okay, taken. | 19:00 |
| astraljava | But that was already taken. So something else pulls it in. | 19:01 |
| falktx | hm, ubuntustudio-recording depends on audacious, why? | 19:01 |
| astraljava | Xubuntu-dev meeting, bbl. | 19:01 |
| astraljava | Ha. Looks like we're going by the default lightdm greeter theme. | 19:07 |
| astraljava | UI freeze this Thursday. | 19:07 |
| * astraljava is so sorry | 19:07 | |
| falktx_ | thursday? | 19:08 |
| astraljava | The day that comes after Wednesday. | 19:08 |
| astraljava | *grin* | 19:08 |
| falktx_ | beh, still enough time! | 19:08 |
| falktx_ | astraljava: which is the default US wallpaper right now? | 19:08 |
| astraljava | If you're an excellent artist, knowing how that works, then by all means, have at it, please. :) | 19:09 |
| astraljava | falktx_: I'm not knowledgeable about the artwork at all. | 19:09 |
| falktx_ | hm, there's a qt greeter in there... | 19:09 |
| falktx_ | scott-work: ? | 19:10 |
| falktx_ | hm, I need some starting theme | 19:11 |
| scott-work | falktx_: i'm not sure i understand your question | 19:11 |
| scott-work | are you asking if a qt greeter can be removed? | 19:12 |
| charlie-tca | lightdm-gtk-greeter is working now, and looks not too bad | 19:12 |
| falktx_ | scott-work: I'm asking what is the current default wallpaper | 19:13 |
| scott-work | falktx_: it's the same as we had for natty right now | 19:14 |
| scott-work | astraljava: falktx_ : do either one of you know if we have lightdm in the image right now? | 19:14 |
| falktx_ | scott-work: it's pushed by *-desktop | 19:15 |
| falktx_ | astraljava: creating a lightdm theme seems easy | 19:15 |
| falktx_ | not sure how to change themes though | 19:15 |
| scott-work | falktx_: you could see what xubuntu is doing, i'm okay with leaving default for now though | 19:16 |
| astraljava | falktx_: We'd need to nail the configuration in (probably) less than three days, too, so.. | 19:16 |
| scott-work | falktx_: but thank you for knowing that and telling me :) | 19:16 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Thanks! :) | 19:16 |
| falktx_ | I'm using the mythbuntu lightdm theme as base, seems easy | 19:17 |
| falktx_ | scott-work: astraljava: default US font? | 19:17 |
| astraljava | falktx_: madnick over on #xubuntu-dev has worked on it for quite some while, to get it look cool. I'm not sure we can do that in a few days, but if we can, then yeah, let's get it on. It's not like it'll cost us anything. | 19:18 |
| falktx_ | astraljava: I'm sure I can do this in a matter of minutes now | 19:18 |
| falktx_ | I just need to know the details | 19:18 |
| falktx_ | scott-work: astraljava: should guest logins be enabled? | 19:18 |
| scott-work | falktx_: i think default us font is fine....wait, you mean the old font or the new font? | 19:18 |
| falktx_ | scott-work: new font, the default on desktop | 19:19 |
| astraljava | falktx_: No, none at all. That's a huge pain in the 4$$. | 19:19 |
| scott-work | falktx_: astraljava: i don't think guest shoudl be enabled myself | 19:19 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Whole-heartedly concur. | 19:19 |
| scott-work | i should say that i think all this hacking is cool :) sadly i'm not directly participating :( | 19:19 |
| scott-work | i still want to update the language packs tonight | 19:20 |
| falktx_ | damn, I can't remember the default wallpaper | 19:20 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Oh but you are, by voicing opinions (which we interpret as orders) :D | 19:20 |
| falktx_ | is it the mixing table photo? | 19:20 |
| scott-work | falktx_: is the weird six sided extruded polygons...i'll see if i can find a pictures on google | 19:21 |
| scott-work | http://screenshots.debian.net/thumbnail-with-version//ubuntustudio-wallpapers/0.40 | 19:21 |
| scott-work | it's small but that's it | 19:21 |
| falktx_ | scott-work: thanks | 19:21 |
| scott-work | http://www.linoob.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Ubuntu-Studio-Gnome-Desktop-1024x576.png | 19:21 |
| scott-work | bigger one | 19:21 |
| falktx_ | it's ok | 19:21 |
| falktx_ | scott-work: but the default font? | 19:22 |
| scott-work | i would actually prefer a very simple, uncluttered desktop | 19:22 |
| scott-work | the ones we have used are pretty but not very functional IMO | 19:23 |
| scott-work | !artwork | 19:23 |
| ubottu | Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy | 19:23 |
| scott-work | bah | 19:23 |
| scott-work | i like the first image on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/OfficialOneiric | 19:23 |
| scott-work | move the logo to the bottom right out of the way and maybe fade it a bit and that would be better IMO | 19:24 |
| scott-work | that is NOT an order, just an opinion | 19:24 |
| astraljava | Heh, one other thing. Do we have a plymouth theme? I guess we do, as plymouth was already used in natty, right? | 19:27 |
| falktx_ | astraljava: yes | 19:29 |
| astraljava | *phew* | 19:29 |
| * astraljava has totally dropped the ball | 19:29 | |
| astraljava | *frown* | 19:29 |
| scott-work | ach, webchat froze right after i said to please disagree :/ | 19:30 |
| falktx_ | astraljava: US is not in such bad state! | 19:30 |
| scott-work | i thought hte channel had gone strangely quiet ;) | 19:30 |
| astraljava | scott-work: :D | 19:30 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Sounds good to me. | 19:30 |
| astraljava | But I'm not really graphical person. | 19:30 |
| falktx_ | ok, ready to test! | 19:30 |
| scott-work | even if it is in a bad state, i think we have a much clearer path to make it better since we identified an audience we want to address | 19:31 |
| falktx_ | time to test the lightdm theme! | 19:31 |
| scott-work | cool :) | 19:32 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca> UI freeze is at August 25, 2011 at 21:00 UTC | 19:33 |
| astraljava | So, yeah. Three full days. | 19:33 |
| astraljava | Ahh... sorry, two full days. "Last minute updates should be done 1 full day earlier" | 19:35 |
| scott-work | astraljava: i caution everyone again, given our currest status and that we serve a niche audience, we probably have some latitude | 19:35 |
| scott-work | that is not meant to imply we should do nothing until after the UI freeze, mind you ;) | 19:36 |
| astraljava | Sure, sure. :) | 19:37 |
| falktx | damn it, | 19:40 |
| falktx | it's not picking up the us theme | 19:40 |
| falktx | nor any other theme at all | 19:40 |
| falktx | I have no idea how lightdm works :( | 19:40 |
| falktx_ | sorry, bad network | 19:44 |
| scott-work | falktx: does the default theme work? | 19:44 |
| falktx_ | I was saying | 19:44 |
| falktx_ | the theme installs, but I can't get lightdm to change themes | 19:45 |
| falktx_ | I have no idea how lightdm works, but there's no proper docs out there too :( | 19:45 |
| astraljava | falktx_: I'll try to have the xubuntu guys here soon, hopefully even after the meeting. Stay put, if you can. | 19:45 |
| falktx_ | how do I change the lightdm theme? | 19:45 |
| falktx_ | ok | 19:45 |
| * falktx_ asks in #ubuntu-devel | 19:48 | |
| falktx_ | damn, how is that such simple thing is not documented? | 19:52 |
| falktx_ | finally! | 19:55 |
| scott-work | did it work or did someone tell you how to do it? | 19:55 |
| falktx_ | scott-work: I got it working | 19:56 |
| scott-work | sweet :) | 19:56 |
| charlie-tca | it's all changed so much so fast, the docs are way behind | 19:58 |
| falktx_ | haha | 19:58 |
| falktx_ | http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr023.png | 19:58 |
| falktx_ | scott-work: astraljava: charlie-tca ^ | 19:58 |
| scott-work | falktx_: you continually amaze me :) | 19:59 |
| astraljava | AAAAWWWWEEEESSSSOOOOMMMMMEEEE!! | 19:59 |
| falktx_ | scott-work: it seems to be using gtk3, so the theme doesn't catch up? | 19:59 |
| astraljava | Now to package it, then file a FFe. | 19:59 |
| falktx_ | we'll still need a way to set the default greeter method to gtk | 20:00 |
| falktx_ | ubuntu sets it to unity | 20:00 |
| astraljava | Yeah, true. | 20:00 |
| scott-work | i have code to set GDM to gnome 'classic', i wonder if that will still work | 20:01 |
| scott-work | might also look at the xubuntu code as well (that's where i stole it from) | 20:01 |
| charlie-tca | w00t! looking good | 20:03 |
| falktx_ | packaging here - kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme_0.1.tar.gz | 20:04 |
| falktx_ | oops | 20:04 |
| falktx_ | http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme_0.1.tar.gz | 20:04 |
| falktx_ | astraljava: it's almost ready (YES!), just tweak where needed | 20:04 |
| falktx_ | scott-work: please take a note of this: | 20:05 |
| astraljava | falktx_: Excellent! Well done! | 20:05 |
| falktx_ | we need to change a value in this file - /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | 20:05 |
| falktx_ | greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter | 20:05 |
| falktx_ | and it will work | 20:05 |
| falktx_ | astraljava: thanks, I'm just trying to help ;) | 20:06 |
| scott-work | falktx_: do we need to add the /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf to the ubuntustudio-default-settings package? | 20:06 |
| astraljava | falktx_: Not necessarily, there's a way for derivatives to do this without touching the original. | 20:06 |
| falktx_ | don't ask me how it's done | 20:06 |
| astraljava | But hopefully we have the xubuntu guys explain it how it's done. | 20:07 |
| falktx_ | astraljava: the package comes from mythbuntu-light-theme, so I assume it works fine | 20:07 |
| astraljava | Oh okay, cool. | 20:07 |
| astraljava | falktx_: Can you push that to LP as a code tree? You're currently in studio~dev, right? | 20:11 |
| falktx_ | astraljava: I prefer to leave that to you | 20:12 |
| falktx_ | I have plenty of stuff to do now | 20:12 |
| astraljava | falktx_: Sure, that's fine. | 20:12 |
| falktx_ | I'm happy I contributed something | 20:12 |
| * astraljava is happy too :) | 20:12 | |
| falktx_ | astraljava: you probably know it better than me | 20:12 |
| astraljava | I bet you've done a lot more packages then me. :) | 20:13 |
| falktx_ | astraljava: my work is more about backports and re-using/fixing stuff, not much as creating packages from scratch | 20:13 |
| astraljava | Sure, sure. | 20:14 |
| falktx_ | heck, I don't agree with the debian rules at all... | 20:14 |
| astraljava | falktx_: The meeting is about to end. Do we need the guys here now? | 20:14 |
| falktx_ | too many stuff, gets complicated | 20:14 |
| astraljava | Yeah, but it does have advantages, ultimately. | 20:14 |
| falktx_ | astraljava: maybe to know how to set gtk greeter as default | 20:14 |
| astraljava | Okay, I'll ask if they have time. | 20:15 |
| astraljava | falktx_: Are you in a hurry? madnick needs to take care of something, before he wishes to join here. But can come briefly, if it's really urgent. | 20:20 |
| falktx_ | astraljava: no prob | 20:21 |
| astraljava | Cool, thanks! | 20:22 |
| falktx_ | I can watch another episode of leverage | 20:22 |
| falktx_ | hehe | 20:22 |
| astraljava | Hehe, coolness. :D | 20:22 |
| scott-work | ah falktx left, i was going to tell him i am happy he is contributing to this too | 20:31 |
| astraljava | He should be around soon enough. | 20:44 |
| astraljava | falktx: madnick: Hey there, so how about that lightdm, then? | 20:58 |
| astraljava | Do we need to change a value in file /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf? | 20:59 |
| falktx | afaik, we need to change the greeter engine from [default] unity to gtk | 20:59 |
| astraljava | IIRC, xubuntu had some tweak for that, so that derivates don't need to patch/update that file directly. | 20:59 |
| madnick | Yes | 21:00 |
| madnick | You change the seat-defaults | 21:00 |
| * astraljava hasn't yet had time to read the backscroll when this was discussed over on #xubuntu-devel | 21:02 | |
| astraljava | falktx: Does that mean anything to you? | 21:04 |
| madnick | Well, I am not sure what you guys are wondering :) But http://people.ubuntu.com/~robert-ancell/lightdm/reference/ and the gtk-example-greeter provides alot of insight into greeter development :) | 21:06 |
| madnick | http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu/xubuntu-greeter-draft8.png | 21:06 |
| madnick | What I've done, is integerated a html renderer, in it, to render the UI | 21:06 |
| astraljava | Oh cool. | 21:07 |
| falktx_ | sorry, my network is having issues | 21:07 |
| scott-work | madnick: i think the goal is to make sure that the lightdm session is set to xubuntu directly after the initial installation for the default user | 21:08 |
| scott-work | we did soemthing similar with GDM last cycle to use the 'gnome classic' session rather than unity | 21:08 |
| madnick | I have not looked into anything like that, Im just the code monkey :) you may want to ask mr_pouit, he has made that utility :) | 21:09 |
| astraljava | Right, okay. :) | 21:12 |
| scott-work | madnick: have you hear the jonathan coulton song "code monkey"? http://www.jonathancoulton.com/2006/04/14/thing-a-week-29-code-monkey/ | 21:13 |
| madnick | yes :) | 21:13 |
| madnick | Infact I never heard the expression before I heard that song :P | 21:13 |
| astraljava | Well, hopefully we can now work on that issue with these instructions. Thanks, madnick, for sharing! | 21:15 |
| astraljava | I don't wanna stress you more, seeing as you're swamped already. :) | 21:16 |
| astraljava | But feel free to hang around. | 21:16 |
| astraljava | There's good people in here. :) | 21:16 |
| scott-upstairs | astraljava, i'm am making changes to the 'ship' seed to adjust the language packs | 22:45 |
| scott-upstairs | i'm tired of the 400+ lines of "unknown ship package" from the build logs | 22:46 |
| scott-upstairs | see for reference: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntustudio/oneiric/daily-20110527.log | 22:46 |
| scott-upstairs | lol, was looking for some notes and ran across this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Sandbox | 22:47 |
| scott-upstairs | i forgot how decent i made this part of the wiki look ;) | 22:47 |
| scott-upstairs | falktx_, okay, my notes to add ladish, gladish, and laditools | 22:55 |
| scott-upstairs | any objections, corrections, suggestions? | 22:56 |
| falktx_ | scott-upstairs: hm, gladish is enough | 22:56 |
| scott-upstairs | really? will it pull in the others? | 22:56 |
| falktx_ | gladish depends on ladish, and recommends laditools | 22:56 |
| falktx_ | yes | 22:56 |
| scott-upstairs | rightyo | 22:56 |
| falktx_ | scott-upstairs: "keep it simple" | 22:56 |
| scott-upstairs | hmm, how do you write that? righty-o | 22:57 |
| scott-upstairs | right-y-o | 22:57 |
| scott-upstairs | ? | 22:57 |
| scott-upstairs | don't know | 22:57 |
| falktx_ | don't ask me | 22:57 |
| falktx_ | I usually just say 'yep' | 22:57 |
| falktx_ | yep | 22:57 |
| scott-upstairs | i think it's righty-o | 22:57 |
| scott-upstairs | yep | 22:57 |
| scott-upstairs | sounds like hank hill from that cartoon show | 22:57 |
| scott-upstairs | oi, and that jack pulse bridge thiingie | 22:58 |
| falktx_ | pulseaudio-module-jack | 22:58 |
| scott-upstairs | pulseaudio....yeah, that one | 22:58 |
| scott-upstairs | the only problem i had with this is this.... | 22:59 |
| scott-upstairs | i got decent latency with onboard sound card | 22:59 |
| scott-upstairs | i got very good latency with delta44 | 22:59 |
| scott-upstairs | when i added the pa-jack module onboard was practically unusable via jack but delta44 remained pretty good | 23:00 |
| scott-upstairs | are we sure we want to add this? | 23:00 |
| scott-upstairs | falktx_, any plugins you recommend to be added? | 23:01 |
| falktx_ | scott-upstairs: adding that won't do anything | 23:01 |
| falktx_ | scott-upstairs: only when the user activates it via special commands, it will work | 23:02 |
| scott-upstairs | ah, okay...what's the command? i made it work before | 23:02 |
| falktx_ | for any other things, it won't affect jack at all | 23:02 |
| falktx_ | pactl ... whatever | 23:02 |
| falktx_ | I just use my pulse-jack script for this | 23:02 |
| scott-upstairs | i think i used instructions from david h. in an email | 23:07 |
| scott-upstairs | okay, done | 23:07 |
| scott-upstairs | pushing to bzr | 23:08 |
| * falktx_ is making launchpad slow with all his uploads | 23:08 | |
| madnick | /names | 23:09 |
| madnick | sorry | 23:09 |
| falktx_ | lol | 23:09 |
| scott-upstairs | changes pushed, yay! time to celebrate with dinner | 23:10 |
| falktx_ | yep | 23:10 |
| falktx_ | time to eat something | 23:10 |
| scott-upstairs | adding stuff to the seeds is much more fun when others are around hacking together ;) | 23:10 |
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