[00:33] <ScottL> *sigh* it's deja-vu all over again
[00:33] <ScottL> W: Failed to fetch file:/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ftp-universe/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[00:33] <ScottL> no ISO's this weekend :(
[00:34] <falktx_> ScottL: what's that error all about?
[00:34] <ScottL> astraljava, i'm going to make a few changes myself to the seeds, hopefully tonight, rather than suffer you with it
[00:34] <ScottL> falktx_, apparently its the syncing of packages
[00:35] <ScottL> my (bad) understanding that packages are being updated but not synced fast enough and we end up with hash sum mismatches
[00:35] <ScottL> cjwatson said that when they get new hardware this shouldn't be a probelm
[00:36] <falktx_> damn
[00:36] <ScottL> i am positing that the changes are happening faster than the current hardware can sync given the comments i've heard (including one of yours)
[00:37] <falktx_> I have no idea whatsoever about how these things work :(
[00:37] <ScottL> perhaps during a less busy cycle this would not be as bad as they appear
[00:37] <falktx_> ScottL: I think the feature freeze is in now, right?
[00:51] <ScottL> !calender
[00:51] <ScottL> !calendar
[00:51] <holstein> lol
[00:52] <ScottL> forget that one
[00:52] <ScottL> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[00:52] <holstein> ubottu is a dork
[00:53] <holstein> oh... dont you worry ;)
[00:53] <ScottL> LOL
[00:53] <ScottL> i wish i remembered how to set it to recognize calendar correctly
[02:19] <falktx_> haha
[02:21] <falktx_> ScottL: i think the ubuntu feature freeze is now in place, so there should not be too many package updates now
[02:21] <falktx_> it's the right time for US fixing I guess
[02:21] <falktx_> ScottL: btw, what to do with all the artwork in the wiki?
[02:24] <ScottL> which artwork do you mean?
[02:24] <ScottL> falktx_, ^^^
[02:25] <falktx_> ScottL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/
[02:25] <falktx_> there is some pretty cool stuff in there
[02:25] <ScottL> to be honest and direct, probably nothing right now
[02:26] <ScottL> cory isn't active and no one else really knows about packaging artwork at this point
[02:26] <ScottL> unless you want to help
[02:26] <falktx_> I wish I could put some use to that artwork...
[02:26] <ScottL> you can
[02:26] <ScottL> also considering that we can't get an image to test i'm not sure where we will stand
[02:26] <falktx_> ScottL: can we just add new wallpapers?
[02:26] <ScottL> falktx_, i would say that we could
[02:27] <ScottL> i would prefer something not so busy as we have had since hardy
[02:28] <ScottL> falktx_, my favorite (but it's not *quite* exactly what i want) is the first on one the oneiric link
[02:28] <falktx_> has US changed his logo to the new font?
[02:28] <ScottL> yes
[02:28] <ScottL> look at the bottom of the oneiric link
[02:28] <falktx_> ScottL: this one - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/OfficialOneiric?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntustudio_v3_logo.svg
[02:29] <falktx_> ?
[02:32] <falktx_> I guess yes
[02:33] <falktx_> ScottL: have you considered changing the theme?
[02:33] <falktx_> afaik, gtk3 apps will be a problem
[02:33]  * falktx_ hopes qtcurve gets gtk3 support soon
[02:38] <ScottL> falktx_, yes, i believe that is the one we are going to use
[02:38]  * ScottL is sorry to be in and out of the conversation, but is at home by himself with the kids
[02:39]  * ScottL also likes to talk about himself in the third person ;)
[02:39] <ScottL> falktx_, i would like to change the theme...very badly, but again, i don't know how at this time and don't have time to learn how
[02:41] <falktx> sorry my network stopped
[02:41] <falktx> stopped after 'ScottL: have you considered changing the theme?'
 falktx_, yes, i believe that is the one we are going to use
[02:42] <ScottL> * ScottL is sorry to be in and out of the conversation, but is at home by himself with the kids
[02:42] <ScottL> * ScottL also likes to talk about himself in the third person ;)
 falktx_, i would like to change the theme...very badly, but again, i don't know how at this time and don't have time to learn how
[02:42] <ScottL> * falktx_ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
[02:42] <ScottL> that's what i said :)
[02:45] <falktx> ScottL: I guess the focus now is to get a working image, all the rest comes afterwards
[02:46] <falktx> my work for the PPAs will really help US this time, I have some cool plans...
[02:49] <falktx> I'm just sad I don't know how the US processing really works
[03:14] <ScottL> falktx, i have been told that it wasn't quite the lethargic in the past
[03:14] <ScottL> apparently it was very robust during the beginning
[11:52] <scott-work> *sigh* no image built today :(
[13:39] <holstein> we dont need one ;)
[13:40] <holstein> "we've already got one... its very nice"
[14:04] <falktx> holstein: who said that»
[14:04] <falktx> ?
[14:07] <holstein> falktx: i was trying something from monty python
[14:07] <holstein> "we seek the grail"
[14:07] <holstein> "we've already got one... its very nice!"
[14:07] <falktx> ok
[14:07] <holstein> falktx: we do need an image :/
[14:08] <holstein> well, at some point we doo
[15:00] <scott-work> hahah, just saw this :)
[15:22] <astraljava> Hey folks, sorry I've been AFK (well not really, but from hobbies.) Gimme another hour, and I'll start hacking.
[17:10] <astraljava> Almost two hours, but what the heck. Sat down now.
[17:12] <astraljava> No disks for two days, damn.
[17:13] <astraljava> Xubuntu, on the other hand, does have an alternate for today.
[17:16] <astraljava> But I didn't see a healthy check for neither yesterday nor today. Damn.
[18:10] <scott-work> i'm feeling frustrated
[18:23] <ailo> scott-work, You need to de-frust
[18:26] <astraljava> So, it's not a direct dependency that's pulling gnome-session in, that apparently pulls unity in.
[18:29] <scott-work> ailo: lol
[18:29] <scott-work> like, i should be 'grunted' rather that disgrunted?  ;)
[18:29] <astraljava> Damn, network-manager-gnome pulls in libgtk-3-0
[18:37] <falktx> astraljava: I think gtk3 is ok
[18:37]  * falktx updates to check out this issue
[18:37] <falktx> btw, I'm running oneiric now, so I can dig this too
[18:38] <scott-work> charlie-tca: what does xubuntu use for network manager?
[18:38] <scott-work> falktx: that would be very helpful :)
[18:38] <scott-work> astraljava:  if  netowrk-manager causes problems maybe we use whatever charlie-tca is using for xubuntu
[18:39] <charlie-tca> network-manager
[18:39] <charlie-tca> It mostly works. What about wicd?
[18:40] <falktx> charlie-tca: xfce uses gnome network-manager?
[18:41] <charlie-tca> yup
[18:41] <charlie-tca> I show 'network-manager' and 'network-manager-gnome'
[18:41] <falktx> I guess wicd would be an option here
[18:42] <charlie-tca> I think Xfce recommends them too
[18:44]  * astraljava grumbles
[18:45] <astraljava> IT's all alacarte's fault.
[18:45] <falktx> scott-work: unity is probably pushed by a recommends, not a real dependency
[18:45] <astraljava> It brings in gnome-panel, which brings in gnome-session, which brings in unity.
[18:45] <falktx> ah, astraljava, right
[18:45]  * astraljava grumbles again
[18:46] <scott-work> i'm not even sure what alacarte is used for 
[18:46] <scott-work> ah, menu editing
[18:46] <scott-work> maybe we pull alacarte for now and see if we can work a solution
[18:46] <astraljava> Yeah I'm definitely taking it off.
[18:47] <falktx> hm, nm-gnome does not push gnome-panel
[18:47] <astraljava> But I'm gonna read up on germinate output for other unneeded stuff, the .iso is HUUUUUUUGE
[18:47] <falktx> scott-work: alacarte doesn't seem to be the problem either
[18:47]  * falktx installs US metas
[18:47] <astraljava> Yeah, I suppose network manager is alright, xubuntu seems to have it too.
[18:48] <astraljava> falktx: I just checked from germinate output.
[18:48] <charlie-tca> You have to pull alacarte with a --no-recommends to not get most of gnome with it
[18:48] <astraljava> charlie-tca: Is that what you're doing?
[18:48] <charlie-tca> We don't install alacarte by default
[18:48] <astraljava> Okay, then I seem to have left it by accident.
[18:49] <astraljava> germinate seems to take recommends to the images nowadays.
[18:49] <falktx> astraljava: it is the default since karmic
[18:49] <charlie-tca> We just tell the users:
[18:49] <charlie-tca> For Xfce 4.8, 'sudo apt-get install alacarte --no-install-recommends' in a terminal will let you use an editor to change the menus.
[18:50] <falktx> charlie-tca: so the problem is "gnome-menus" pushed by alacarte
[18:50]  * falktx is still installing the metas
[18:50] <charlie-tca> right
[18:50] <charlie-tca> and debian won't change that, either
[18:50] <astraljava> Judging from: gnome-panel                            | gnome-panel                    | alacarte (Recommends)
[18:50] <charlie-tca> It is considered a "gnome-menu"  editor
[18:50] <scott-work> which since we are ubuntu xfce we don't really need ;)
[18:51] <falktx> but how xfce does this then?
[18:51] <astraljava> Ex-friggin'-actly.
[18:51] <falktx> it has alacarte in there
[18:51] <charlie-tca> They are just a desktop environment, so they don't have to worry about throwing things together to fit the users needs so much.
[18:51] <falktx> oh, I see lighdm being pushed, is that what US will use?
[18:52] <astraljava> falktx: Yep.
[18:52] <astraljava> We just don't have a theme for that, yet. *grin*
[18:52] <falktx> charlie-tca: yes, but using alacarte should push unity, or am I missing something?
[18:52] <falktx> hm, I can hack a theme
[18:52] <charlie-tca> no, it will push gnome3 instead, I think
[18:52] <astraljava> falktx: That's what I just tried to explain.
[18:52] <falktx> astraljava: but are you sure it's alacarte?
[18:52] <astraljava> alacarte -> gnome-panel -> gnome-session -> unity
[18:52] <falktx> other packages could be pushing gnome3 too
[18:53] <falktx> I see a lot of stuff that we don't need in the metas... :(
[18:53] <astraljava> Yeah, that's why I'm combing the germinate logs to make sure it doesn't happen from any other direction.
[18:54] <falktx> astraljava: gnome-bluetooth should be removed
[18:54] <astraljava> scott-work: Agree?
[18:57] <falktx> hm, he's probably busy
[18:57] <scott-work> falktx: astraljava :  agreed
[18:58] <scott-work> i had that on a far range culling of the seeds
[19:00] <astraljava> Okay, taken.
[19:01] <astraljava> But that was already taken. So something else pulls it in.
[19:01] <falktx> hm, ubuntustudio-recording depends on audacious, why?
[19:01] <astraljava> Xubuntu-dev meeting, bbl.
[19:07] <astraljava> Ha. Looks like we're going by the default lightdm greeter theme.
[19:07] <astraljava> UI freeze this Thursday.
[19:07]  * astraljava is so sorry
[19:08] <falktx_> thursday?
[19:08] <astraljava> The day that comes after Wednesday.
[19:08] <astraljava> *grin*
[19:08] <falktx_> beh, still enough time!
[19:08] <falktx_> astraljava: which is the default US wallpaper right now?
[19:09] <astraljava> If you're an excellent artist, knowing how that works, then by all means, have at it, please. :)
[19:09] <astraljava> falktx_: I'm not knowledgeable about the artwork at all.
[19:09] <falktx_> hm, there's a qt greeter in there...
[19:10] <falktx_> scott-work: ?
[19:11] <falktx_> hm, I need some starting theme
[19:11] <scott-work> falktx_: i'm not sure i understand your question
[19:12] <scott-work> are you asking if a qt greeter can be removed?
[19:12] <charlie-tca> lightdm-gtk-greeter is working now, and looks not too bad
[19:13] <falktx_> scott-work: I'm asking what is the current default wallpaper
[19:14] <scott-work> falktx_: it's the same as we had for natty right now
[19:14] <scott-work> astraljava: falktx_ : do either one of you know if we have lightdm in the image right now?
[19:15] <falktx_> scott-work: it's pushed by *-desktop
[19:15] <falktx_> astraljava: creating a lightdm theme seems easy
[19:15] <falktx_> not sure how to change themes though
[19:16] <scott-work> falktx_: you could see what xubuntu is doing, i'm okay with leaving default for now though
[19:16] <astraljava> falktx_: We'd need to nail the configuration in (probably) less than three days, too, so..
[19:16] <scott-work> falktx_: but thank you for knowing that and telling me :)
[19:16] <astraljava> scott-work: Thanks! :)
[19:17] <falktx_> I'm using the mythbuntu lightdm theme as base, seems easy
[19:17] <falktx_> scott-work: astraljava: default US font?
[19:18] <astraljava> falktx_: madnick over on #xubuntu-dev has worked on it for quite some while, to get it look cool. I'm not sure we can do that in a few days, but if we can, then yeah, let's get it on. It's not like it'll cost us anything.
[19:18] <falktx_> astraljava: I'm sure I can do this in a matter of minutes now
[19:18] <falktx_> I just need to know the details
[19:18] <falktx_> scott-work: astraljava: should guest logins be enabled?
[19:18] <scott-work> falktx_: i think default us font is fine....wait, you mean the old font or the new font?
[19:19] <falktx_> scott-work: new font, the default on desktop
[19:19] <astraljava> falktx_: No, none at all. That's a huge pain in the 4$$.
[19:19] <scott-work> falktx_: astraljava: i don't think guest shoudl be enabled myself
[19:19] <astraljava> scott-work: Whole-heartedly concur.
[19:19] <scott-work> i should say that i think all this hacking is cool :)  sadly i'm not directly participating :(
[19:20] <scott-work> i still want to update the language packs tonight
[19:20] <falktx_> damn, I can't remember the default wallpaper
[19:20] <astraljava> scott-work: Oh but you are, by voicing opinions (which we interpret as orders) :D
[19:20] <falktx_> is it the mixing table photo?
[19:21] <scott-work> falktx_: is the weird six sided extruded polygons...i'll see if i can find a pictures on google
[19:21] <scott-work> http://screenshots.debian.net/thumbnail-with-version//ubuntustudio-wallpapers/0.40
[19:21] <scott-work> it's small but that's it
[19:21] <falktx_> scott-work: thanks
[19:21] <scott-work> http://www.linoob.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Ubuntu-Studio-Gnome-Desktop-1024x576.png
[19:21] <scott-work> bigger one
[19:21] <falktx_> it's ok
[19:22] <falktx_> scott-work: but the default font?
[19:22] <scott-work> i would actually prefer a very simple, uncluttered desktop
[19:23] <scott-work> the ones we have used are pretty but not very functional IMO
[19:23] <scott-work> !artwork
[19:23] <scott-work> bah
[19:23] <scott-work> i like the first image on this page:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/OfficialOneiric
[19:24] <scott-work> move the logo to the bottom right out of the way and maybe fade it a bit and that would be better IMO
[19:24] <scott-work> that is NOT an order, just an opinion
[19:27] <astraljava> Heh, one other thing. Do we have a plymouth theme? I guess we do, as plymouth was already used in natty, right?
[19:29] <falktx_> astraljava: yes
[19:29] <astraljava> *phew*
[19:29]  * astraljava has totally dropped the ball
[19:29] <astraljava> *frown*
[19:30] <scott-work> ach, webchat froze right after i said to please disagree :/
[19:30] <falktx_> astraljava: US is not in such bad state!
[19:30] <scott-work> i thought hte channel had gone strangely quiet ;)
[19:30] <astraljava> scott-work: :D
[19:30] <astraljava> scott-work: Sounds good to me.
[19:30] <astraljava> But I'm not really graphical person.
[19:30] <falktx_> ok, ready to test!
[19:31] <scott-work> even if it is in a bad state, i think we have a much clearer path to make it better since we identified an audience we want to address
[19:31] <falktx_> time to test the lightdm theme!
[19:32] <scott-work> cool :)
[19:33] <astraljava> charlie-tca> UI freeze is at August 25, 2011 at 21:00 UTC
[19:33] <astraljava> So, yeah. Three full days.
[19:35] <astraljava> Ahh... sorry, two full days. "Last minute updates should be done 1 full day earlier"
[19:35] <scott-work> astraljava: i caution everyone again, given our currest status and that we serve a niche audience, we probably have some latitude
[19:36] <scott-work> that is not meant to imply we should do nothing until after the UI freeze, mind you ;)
[19:37] <astraljava> Sure, sure. :)
[19:40] <falktx> damn it,
[19:40] <falktx> it's not picking up the us theme
[19:40] <falktx> nor any other theme at all
[19:40] <falktx> I have no idea how lightdm works :(
[19:44] <falktx_> sorry, bad network
[19:44] <scott-work> falktx:  does the default theme work?
[19:44] <falktx_> I was saying
[19:45] <falktx_> the theme installs, but I can't get lightdm to change themes
[19:45] <falktx_> I have no idea how lightdm works, but there's no proper docs out there too :(
[19:45] <astraljava> falktx_: I'll try to have the xubuntu guys here soon, hopefully even after the meeting. Stay put, if you can.
[19:45] <falktx_> how do I change the lightdm theme?
[19:45] <falktx_> ok
[19:48]  * falktx_ asks in #ubuntu-devel
[19:52] <falktx_> damn, how is that such simple thing is not documented?
[19:55] <falktx_> finally!
[19:55] <scott-work> did it work or did someone tell you how to do it?
[19:56] <falktx_> scott-work: I got it working
[19:56] <scott-work> sweet :)
[19:58] <charlie-tca> it's all changed so much so fast, the docs are way behind
[19:58] <falktx_> haha
[19:58] <falktx_> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr023.png
[19:58] <falktx_> scott-work: astraljava: charlie-tca ^
[19:59] <scott-work> falktx_: you continually amaze me :)
[19:59] <astraljava> AAAAWWWWEEEESSSSOOOOMMMMMEEEE!!
[19:59] <falktx_> scott-work: it seems to be using gtk3, so the theme doesn't catch up?
[19:59] <astraljava> Now to package it, then file a FFe.
[20:00] <falktx_> we'll still need a way to set the default greeter method to gtk
[20:00] <falktx_> ubuntu sets it to unity
[20:00] <astraljava> Yeah, true.
[20:01] <scott-work> i have code to set GDM to gnome 'classic', i wonder if that will still work
[20:01] <scott-work> might also look at the xubuntu code as well (that's where i stole it from)
[20:03] <charlie-tca> w00t! looking good
[20:04] <falktx_> packaging here - kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme_0.1.tar.gz
[20:04] <falktx_> oops
[20:04] <falktx_> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme_0.1.tar.gz
[20:04] <falktx_> astraljava: it's almost ready (YES!), just tweak where needed
[20:05] <falktx_> scott-work: please take a note of this:
[20:05] <astraljava> falktx_: Excellent! Well done!
[20:05] <falktx_> we need to change a value in this file - /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[20:05] <falktx_> greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter
[20:05] <falktx_> and it will work
[20:06] <falktx_> astraljava: thanks, I'm just trying to help ;)
[20:06] <scott-work> falktx_:  do we need to add the /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf to the ubuntustudio-default-settings package?
[20:06] <astraljava> falktx_: Not necessarily, there's a way for derivatives to do this without touching the original.
[20:06] <falktx_> don't ask me how it's done
[20:07] <astraljava> But hopefully we have the xubuntu guys explain it how it's done.
[20:07] <falktx_> astraljava: the package comes from mythbuntu-light-theme, so I assume it works fine
[20:07] <astraljava> Oh okay, cool.
[20:11] <astraljava> falktx_: Can you push that to LP as a code tree? You're currently in studio~dev, right?
[20:12] <falktx_> astraljava: I prefer to leave that to you
[20:12] <falktx_> I have plenty of stuff to do now
[20:12] <astraljava> falktx_: Sure, that's fine.
[20:12] <falktx_> I'm happy I contributed something
[20:12]  * astraljava is happy too :)
[20:12] <falktx_> astraljava: you probably know it better than me
[20:13] <astraljava> I bet you've done a lot more packages then me. :)
[20:13] <falktx_> astraljava: my work is more about backports and re-using/fixing stuff, not much as creating packages from scratch
[20:14] <astraljava> Sure, sure.
[20:14] <falktx_> heck, I don't agree with the debian rules at all...
[20:14] <astraljava> falktx_: The meeting is about to end. Do we need the guys here now?
[20:14] <falktx_> too many stuff, gets complicated
[20:14] <astraljava> Yeah, but it does have advantages, ultimately.
[20:14] <falktx_> astraljava: maybe to know how to set gtk greeter as default
[20:15] <astraljava> Okay, I'll ask if they have time.
[20:20] <astraljava> falktx_: Are you in a hurry? madnick needs to take care of something, before he wishes to join here. But can come briefly, if it's really urgent.
[20:21] <falktx_> astraljava: no prob
[20:22] <astraljava> Cool, thanks!
[20:22] <falktx_> I can watch another episode of leverage
[20:22] <falktx_> hehe
[20:22] <astraljava> Hehe, coolness. :D
[20:31] <scott-work> ah falktx left, i was going to tell him i am happy he is contributing to this too
[20:44] <astraljava> He should be around soon enough.
[20:58] <astraljava> falktx: madnick: Hey there, so how about that lightdm, then?
[20:59] <astraljava> Do we need to change a value in file /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf?
[20:59] <falktx> afaik, we need to change the greeter engine from [default] unity to gtk
[20:59] <astraljava> IIRC, xubuntu had some tweak for that, so that derivates don't need to patch/update that file directly.
[21:00] <madnick> Yes
[21:00] <madnick> You change the seat-defaults
[21:02]  * astraljava hasn't yet had time to read the backscroll when this was discussed over on #xubuntu-devel
[21:04] <astraljava> falktx: Does that mean anything to you?
[21:06] <madnick> Well, I am not sure what you guys are wondering :) But http://people.ubuntu.com/~robert-ancell/lightdm/reference/ and the gtk-example-greeter provides alot of insight into greeter development :)
[21:06] <madnick> http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu/xubuntu-greeter-draft8.png
[21:06] <madnick> What I've done, is integerated a html renderer, in it, to render the UI
[21:07] <astraljava> Oh cool.
[21:07] <falktx_> sorry, my network is having issues
[21:08] <scott-work> madnick: i think the goal is to make sure that the lightdm session is set to xubuntu directly after the initial installation for the default user
[21:08] <scott-work> we did soemthing similar with GDM last cycle to use the 'gnome classic' session rather than unity
[21:09] <madnick> I have not looked into anything like that, Im just the code monkey :) you may want to ask mr_pouit, he has made that utility :)
[21:12] <astraljava> Right, okay. :)
[21:13] <scott-work> madnick: have you hear the jonathan coulton song "code monkey"?  http://www.jonathancoulton.com/2006/04/14/thing-a-week-29-code-monkey/
[21:13] <madnick> yes :)
[21:13] <madnick> Infact I never heard the expression before I heard that song :P
[21:15] <astraljava> Well, hopefully we can now work on that issue with these instructions. Thanks, madnick, for sharing!
[21:16] <astraljava> I don't wanna stress you more, seeing as you're swamped already. :)
[21:16] <astraljava> But feel free to hang around.
[21:16] <astraljava> There's good people in here. :)
[22:45] <scott-upstairs> astraljava, i'm am making changes to the 'ship' seed to adjust the language packs
[22:46] <scott-upstairs> i'm tired of the 400+ lines of "unknown ship package" from the build logs
[22:46] <scott-upstairs> see for reference:  http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntustudio/oneiric/daily-20110527.log
[22:47] <scott-upstairs> lol, was looking for some notes and ran across this:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Sandbox
[22:47] <scott-upstairs> i forgot how decent i made this part of the wiki look ;)
[22:55] <scott-upstairs> falktx_, okay, my notes to add ladish, gladish, and laditools
[22:56] <scott-upstairs> any objections, corrections, suggestions?
[22:56] <falktx_> scott-upstairs: hm, gladish is enough
[22:56] <scott-upstairs> really? will it pull in the others?
[22:56] <falktx_> gladish depends on ladish, and recommends laditools
[22:56] <falktx_> yes
[22:56] <scott-upstairs> rightyo
[22:56] <falktx_> scott-upstairs: "keep it simple"
[22:57] <scott-upstairs> hmm, how do you write that?  righty-o
[22:57] <scott-upstairs> right-y-o
[22:57] <scott-upstairs> ?
[22:57] <scott-upstairs> don't know
[22:57] <falktx_> don't ask me
[22:57] <falktx_> I usually just say 'yep'
[22:57] <falktx_> yep
[22:57] <scott-upstairs> i think it's righty-o
[22:57] <scott-upstairs> yep
[22:57] <scott-upstairs> sounds like hank hill from that cartoon show
[22:58] <scott-upstairs> oi, and that jack pulse bridge thiingie
[22:58] <falktx_> pulseaudio-module-jack
[22:58] <scott-upstairs> pulseaudio....yeah, that one
[22:59] <scott-upstairs> the only problem i had with this is this....
[22:59] <scott-upstairs> i got decent latency with onboard sound card
[22:59] <scott-upstairs> i got very good latency with delta44
[23:00] <scott-upstairs> when i added the pa-jack module onboard was practically unusable via jack but delta44 remained pretty good
[23:00] <scott-upstairs> are we sure we want to add this?
[23:01] <scott-upstairs> falktx_, any plugins you recommend to be added?
[23:01] <falktx_> scott-upstairs: adding that won't do anything
[23:02] <falktx_> scott-upstairs: only when the user activates it via special commands, it will work
[23:02] <scott-upstairs> ah, okay...what's the command?  i made it work before
[23:02] <falktx_> for any other things, it won't affect jack at all
[23:02] <falktx_> pactl ... whatever
[23:02] <falktx_> I just use my pulse-jack script for this
[23:07] <scott-upstairs> i think i used instructions from david h. in an email
[23:07] <scott-upstairs> okay, done
[23:08] <scott-upstairs> pushing to bzr
[23:08]  * falktx_ is making launchpad slow with all his uploads
[23:09] <madnick>  /names
[23:09] <madnick> sorry
[23:09] <falktx_> lol
[23:10] <scott-upstairs> changes pushed, yay!  time to celebrate with dinner
[23:10] <falktx_> yep
[23:10] <falktx_> time to eat something
[23:10] <scott-upstairs> adding stuff to the seeds is much more fun when others are around hacking together ;)