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CIA-52[kdemultimedia] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20110823000347-wtv333ybp7j7f03t * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Drop kubuntu_02_dragon_restricted_install.diff, Phonon GStreamer handles this by itself now.00:03
JontheEchidnaapachelogger, Mamarok^00:04
JontheEchidnaoh, gotta get amarok too ^^00:04
* Quintasan goes to bed00:07
Quintasanstuff is building00:07
Quintasanwill look at result in the morning00:07
CIA-52[amarok] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20110823000727-pxszwpodyusc0xl1 * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Remove kubuntu_restricted_install.diff. Phonon-GStreamer (the default Phonon backend) handles plugin installation itself.00:07
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Riddellweird e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/113425/09:06
Riddellis it just me that gets weird e-mails?09:07
bambeemorning09:12
Quintasanmorning09:18
QuintasanThis site...09:36
* Quintasan notices that USA's Embassy in Poland site is pretty stupid providing not working numbers09:36
QuintasanBRRR09:43
QuintasanYour call cannot be completed09:45
QuintasanStupid infoline09:45
* Quintasan wonders how the hell is he supposed to schedule a meeting09:45
apacheloggerRiddell: it is just you with the weird mails, everyone else has spam filters that also filter weird mails :P10:39
apacheloggerthat one there has all the worlds a good filter needs "effort", "hours", "lunch", " money", "credit card", "download"10:41
apacheloggerhm, worlds10:41
apacheloggernow that is one interesting typo10:41
* apachelogger gets coffee and ponders speneding the afternoon by the pool10:41
Riddellyou have a pool?10:42
ryanakcaRiddell: I don't get any that wierd. I got an email from a guy who wants to sell Kubuntu preinstalled. From the looks of the Trademark Policy, he needs at least a Trademark license. D'you know if he'll also be roped into buying some form of OEM contract with Canonical?10:44
Riddellno he won't10:44
Riddellthe trademark licence is pretty sensible10:44
ryanakcaRiddell: Alright, I'll let him know, thanks.10:45
apacheloggerRiddell: yes, but no hottub :(10:51
apacheloggerthen again it is insanely hot outside from what I have heared so the pool should be pretty close too ^^10:51
ScottKryanakca: I'm pretty sure he doesn't. I'm virtually certain ZaReason doesn't have one.10:52
ryanakcaScottK: Thanks10:58
Riddellif you're trading with the name then you do11:34
Riddellyou'd need a lawyer to say exactly what that means but if your headline is "laptops with kubuntu" then that's trading with a name11:35
Riddelland it doesn't cost anything so you may as well11:35
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Quintasanyofel: Did you manage to order HP stuff?13:54
yofelno :(13:56
Quintasan:S13:58
* Quintasan blames shadeslayer13:59
shadeslayerwhat13:59
shadeslayerthey're supposedly getting new stock13:59
shadeslayerso, be on the lookout13:59
QuintasanDoesn't change the fact I can blame you :P14:01
shadeslayer. . .14:03
* shadeslayer gets back to work14:03
shadeslayeranyone here use LaTeX ?15:42
bambeeshadeslayer: I use LaTex for all my reports15:51
bambeedepending of your needs, I can help you15:51
nigelbshadeslayer: YES. Not an expert though15:59
shadeslayernigelb: bambee ok, i need a table of contents, so far i've tried to use \chapters and \sections but those add extra pages that i don't need for my abstract and Acknowledgement pages16:06
nigelbshadeslayer: "extra pages"?16:07
nigelbyou mean you want to ignore those?16:07
shadeslayernigelb: like "Chapter 1 Acknowledgements"16:07
shadeslayeryes16:07
shadeslayeri have a custom command for acknowledgements16:07
shadeslayerhttps://gist.github.com/1165661 << that16:08
shadeslayernow, if i use \addcontentsline ... i get the page number as 1 for both my abstract and acknowledgement pages16:10
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shadeslayernigelb: is there a way to make LaTeX not display .. "Chapter 1" ?16:17
shadeslayerwhen using \chapter16:17
nigelbshadeslayer: dude, if you hack around latex, I don't how to fix it :)16:17
shadeslayerhahah :P16:17
shadeslayernigelb: i couldn't find \acknowledgements property to use16:18
shadeslayermaybe bambee knows?16:18
nigelbshadeslayer: dude, people have been using latex for a while. I'm fairly sure there's a "Right Way(tm)16:18
bambeetry with \chapter*{my title}16:19
bambee(yes there is a "*")16:19
shadeslayeryeah, but doesn't that make it un numbered or sth ? :P16:19
shadeslayerah16:19
shadeslayerbambee: will this show up in my TOC?16:20
bambeeahh... it won't be shown in the index :\16:20
shadeslayer:<16:20
shadeslayerwell ... i could manually write the TOC16:21
shadeslayeri really don't want to do that 16:21
bambeewhat do you want to do? just don't show "chapter 1" and see the title in the index? 16:22
shadeslayeryes16:22
bambeewell, don't use chapter then :D16:22
shadeslayerok, what do i use then? :P16:22
bambeethere are differents classes in latex16:22
shadeslayer\section will give me 0.1 in the TOC16:23
bambeehave a look at the differents classes really16:23
* shadeslayer looks16:23
bambeechapter are useful when you write a paper for a Phd or for an intership... if you write a short paper don't use chapter really16:24
bambee:)16:24
shadeslayeri'm just writing a report :)16:24
bambeeshadeslayer: also16:27
bambeesudo apt-get install rubber16:27
bambeeand use this makefile16:27
bambeehttp://paste.kde.org/113635/16:27
bambeeor just use rubber by hand16:27
bambeerubber is a build system for latex16:27
shadeslayerrubwhat16:27
bambeeeverything is handled automatically (bibtex, index etc...)16:27
shadeslayerso ... wikipedia says "Latex, not to be confused with plant sap" xD16:28
bambeeand everything is called with "latex/pdflatex" the good number of times16:28
bambeeshadeslayer: "rubber" , search with apt16:28
bambeeor latexmk ... but rubber is better :)16:29
shadeslayerbambee: i just use kile16:29
shadeslayerit does everything for me16:29
shadeslayercomplete IDE16:29
bambeeohh you use kile, ok :)16:30
* bambee uses emacs16:30
bambeeemacs ftw! :D16:30
shadeslayer-> LaTeX newb16:30
shadeslayerbambee: i use emacs for minor C++ file edits16:30
bambeefeel free to use what you want to use ;)16:30
bambeekile is great too16:30
shadeslayerbambee: is there no \acknowledgements for LaTeX ?16:30
bambeeapparently no, usually I use \abstract and I redefine the "abstract name"16:31
shadeslayerah ok16:31
bambee"\renewcommand{\abstractname}{Acknowledgements}"16:32
bambee"\begin{abstract}Many thanks to everyone!\end{abstract}"16:32
shadeslayerright16:34
* Sput uses LyX16:40
shadeslayeri've heard of that16:41
shadeslayercouldn't figure out how to use it16:41
shadeslayerbambee: is there a property to display the output of a terminal ?17:15
shadeslayerlike in unicode ...17:15
shadeslayers/unicode/monospace17:16
bambeeshadeslayer: the output of what?17:18
bambeerubber?17:18
shadeslayerno17:18
shadeslayerbambee: i ran a command in a terminal window17:18
bambeedon't know :\17:19
shadeslayerand i want the output to be displayed in monospace in TeX17:19
shadeslayeraha17:25
shadeslayerbambee: using \begin{verbatim} works17:26
bambeeok :)17:26
bambeegood to know17:26
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