[00:03] <CIA-52> [kdemultimedia] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20110823000347-wtv333ybp7j7f03t * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Drop kubuntu_02_dragon_restricted_install.diff, Phonon GStreamer handles this by itself now.
[00:04] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger, Mamarok^
[00:04] <JontheEchidna> oh, gotta get amarok too ^^
[00:07]  * Quintasan goes to bed
[00:07] <Quintasan> stuff is building
[00:07] <Quintasan> will look at result in the morning
[00:07] <CIA-52> [amarok] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20110823000727-pxszwpodyusc0xl1 * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Remove kubuntu_restricted_install.diff. Phonon-GStreamer (the default Phonon backend) handles plugin installation itself.
[09:06] <Riddell> weird e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/113425/
[09:07] <Riddell> is it just me that gets weird e-mails?
[09:12] <bambee> morning
[09:18] <Quintasan> morning
[09:36] <Quintasan> This site...
[09:36]  * Quintasan notices that USA's Embassy in Poland site is pretty stupid providing not working numbers
[09:43] <Quintasan> BRRR
[09:45] <Quintasan> Your call cannot be completed
[09:45] <Quintasan> Stupid infoline
[09:45]  * Quintasan wonders how the hell is he supposed to schedule a meeting
[10:39] <apachelogger> Riddell: it is just you with the weird mails, everyone else has spam filters that also filter weird mails :P
[10:41] <apachelogger> that one there has all the worlds a good filter needs "effort", "hours", "lunch", " money", "credit card", "download"
[10:41] <apachelogger> hm, worlds
[10:41] <apachelogger> now that is one interesting typo
[10:41]  * apachelogger gets coffee and ponders speneding the afternoon by the pool
[10:42] <Riddell> you have a pool?
[10:44] <ryanakca> Riddell: I don't get any that wierd. I got an email from a guy who wants to sell Kubuntu preinstalled. From the looks of the Trademark Policy, he needs at least a Trademark license. D'you know if he'll also be roped into buying some form of OEM contract with Canonical?
[10:44] <Riddell> no he won't
[10:44] <Riddell> the trademark licence is pretty sensible
[10:45] <ryanakca> Riddell: Alright, I'll let him know, thanks.
[10:51] <apachelogger> Riddell: yes, but no hottub :(
[10:51] <apachelogger> then again it is insanely hot outside from what I have heared so the pool should be pretty close too ^^
[10:52] <ScottK> ryanakca: I'm pretty sure he doesn't. I'm virtually certain ZaReason doesn't have one.
[10:58] <ryanakca> ScottK: Thanks
[11:34] <Riddell> if you're trading with the name then you do
[11:35] <Riddell> you'd need a lawyer to say exactly what that means but if your headline is "laptops with kubuntu" then that's trading with a name
[11:35] <Riddell> and it doesn't cost anything so you may as well
[13:54] <Quintasan> yofel: Did you manage to order HP stuff?
[13:56] <yofel> no :(
[13:58] <Quintasan> :S
[13:59]  * Quintasan blames shadeslayer
[13:59] <shadeslayer> what
[13:59] <shadeslayer> they're supposedly getting new stock
[13:59] <shadeslayer> so, be on the lookout
[14:01] <Quintasan> Doesn't change the fact I can blame you :P
[14:03] <shadeslayer> . . .
[14:03]  * shadeslayer gets back to work
[15:42] <shadeslayer> anyone here use LaTeX ?
[15:51] <bambee> shadeslayer: I use LaTex for all my reports
[15:51] <bambee> depending of your needs, I can help you
[15:59] <nigelb> shadeslayer: YES. Not an expert though
[16:06] <shadeslayer> nigelb: bambee ok, i need a table of contents, so far i've tried to use \chapters and \sections but those add extra pages that i don't need for my abstract and Acknowledgement pages
[16:07] <nigelb> shadeslayer: "extra pages"?
[16:07] <nigelb> you mean you want to ignore those?
[16:07] <shadeslayer> nigelb: like "Chapter 1 Acknowledgements"
[16:07] <shadeslayer> yes
[16:07] <shadeslayer> i have a custom command for acknowledgements
[16:08] <shadeslayer> https://gist.github.com/1165661 << that
[16:10] <shadeslayer> now, if i use \addcontentsline ... i get the page number as 1 for both my abstract and acknowledgement pages
[16:17] <shadeslayer> nigelb: is there a way to make LaTeX not display .. "Chapter 1" ?
[16:17] <shadeslayer> when using \chapter
[16:17] <nigelb> shadeslayer: dude, if you hack around latex, I don't how to fix it :)
[16:17] <shadeslayer> hahah :P
[16:18] <shadeslayer> nigelb: i couldn't find \acknowledgements property to use
[16:18] <shadeslayer> maybe bambee knows?
[16:18] <nigelb> shadeslayer: dude, people have been using latex for a while. I'm fairly sure there's a "Right Way(tm)
[16:19] <bambee> try with \chapter*{my title}
[16:19] <bambee> (yes there is a "*")
[16:19] <shadeslayer> yeah, but doesn't that make it un numbered or sth ? :P
[16:19] <shadeslayer> ah
[16:20] <shadeslayer> bambee: will this show up in my TOC?
[16:20] <bambee> ahh... it won't be shown in the index :\
[16:20] <shadeslayer> :<
[16:21] <shadeslayer> well ... i could manually write the TOC
[16:21] <shadeslayer> i really don't want to do that 
[16:22] <bambee> what do you want to do? just don't show "chapter 1" and see the title in the index? 
[16:22] <shadeslayer> yes
[16:22] <bambee> well, don't use chapter then :D
[16:22] <shadeslayer> ok, what do i use then? :P
[16:22] <bambee> there are differents classes in latex
[16:23] <shadeslayer> \section will give me 0.1 in the TOC
[16:23] <bambee> have a look at the differents classes really
[16:23]  * shadeslayer looks
[16:24] <bambee> chapter are useful when you write a paper for a Phd or for an intership... if you write a short paper don't use chapter really
[16:24] <bambee> :)
[16:24] <shadeslayer> i'm just writing a report :)
[16:27] <bambee> shadeslayer: also
[16:27] <bambee> sudo apt-get install rubber
[16:27] <bambee> and use this makefile
[16:27] <bambee> http://paste.kde.org/113635/
[16:27] <bambee> or just use rubber by hand
[16:27] <bambee> rubber is a build system for latex
[16:27] <shadeslayer> rubwhat
[16:27] <bambee> everything is handled automatically (bibtex, index etc...)
[16:28] <shadeslayer> so ... wikipedia says "Latex, not to be confused with plant sap" xD
[16:28] <bambee> and everything is called with "latex/pdflatex" the good number of times
[16:28] <bambee> shadeslayer: "rubber" , search with apt
[16:29] <bambee> or latexmk ... but rubber is better :)
[16:29] <shadeslayer> bambee: i just use kile
[16:29] <shadeslayer> it does everything for me
[16:29] <shadeslayer> complete IDE
[16:30] <bambee> ohh you use kile, ok :)
[16:30]  * bambee uses emacs
[16:30] <bambee> emacs ftw! :D
[16:30] <shadeslayer> -> LaTeX newb
[16:30] <shadeslayer> bambee: i use emacs for minor C++ file edits
[16:30] <bambee> feel free to use what you want to use ;)
[16:30] <bambee> kile is great too
[16:30] <shadeslayer> bambee: is there no \acknowledgements for LaTeX ?
[16:31] <bambee> apparently no, usually I use \abstract and I redefine the "abstract name"
[16:31] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[16:32] <bambee> "\renewcommand{\abstractname}{Acknowledgements}"
[16:32] <bambee> "\begin{abstract}Many thanks to everyone!\end{abstract}"
[16:34] <shadeslayer> right
[16:40]  * Sput uses LyX
[16:41] <shadeslayer> i've heard of that
[16:41] <shadeslayer> couldn't figure out how to use it
[17:15] <shadeslayer> bambee: is there a property to display the output of a terminal ?
[17:15] <shadeslayer> like in unicode ...
[17:16] <shadeslayer> s/unicode/monospace
[17:18] <bambee> shadeslayer: the output of what?
[17:18] <bambee> rubber?
[17:18] <shadeslayer> no
[17:18] <shadeslayer> bambee: i ran a command in a terminal window
[17:19] <bambee> don't know :\
[17:19] <shadeslayer> and i want the output to be displayed in monospace in TeX
[17:25] <shadeslayer> aha
[17:26] <shadeslayer> bambee: using \begin{verbatim} works
[17:26] <bambee> ok :)
[17:26] <bambee> good to know